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The ultimate gatekeep mechanic ever invented in all of gaming.
The perfect torture for bandwagoners.
The perfect callout for fake gamers.
The perfect entertainment for anyone with a shred of skill.
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>>725919759
>starts up the game in offline mode
Heh, nothing personnel...
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>>725919952
>The perfect callout for fake gamers.
As intended, enjoy missing out on main features of the game.
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Oh good, another 500 post thread with each side talking past the other, and people thinking that they're actually trolling invaders by disconnecting, playing offline, or playing seamless co-op.
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>>725920089
Oh no! How will I enjoy playing the game without unemployed autists bothering me? Truly my gaming session is ruined
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>>725920320
Ever notice how only one side posts gameplay?
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>>725920383
You're bad at games :)
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>>725919759
dark souls 3 invasions were the absolute peak of the series. despite 3 being fan service "WOOOAH DARK SOULS 1 BRO!!!" slop, the way invasions put you at an actual proper disadvantage was done best there.
sad they regressed a bit and got rid of the fog wall entry animation, so dogshit hosts just have to press a button at the wall and they instantly win.
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>>725920089
>fake gamer
Other guy isn't me. I just play on pirated versions. DaS1 already gave me a glimpse of PvP with the NPC invasions, and I'm not particularly impressed. The messages and bloodstain systems are cool, as are covenants and invasions, but they're nothing I can't live without. PvP is secondary to just about everything I care about or want to experience from these games, and I can't see myself getting into or enjoying PvP outside of a brief fling.
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>>725920534
Ds3 had the worst spawn points and levels for invasions
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>ah, i just pirate games, see
>oh that mod just conveniently remvoes invasions
>i uhhh i have no internet when I play games with invasions
>i just have to come on at the callout to defend myself and to subtly shit on the best mechanic ever invented because... uhhh...
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>>725919759
considering the whole fromslop franchise is filled with shit designed to annoy you, is this supposed to be a metaphor for how life is in the japans?
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Getting invaded in the depths back in ds1 was top 5 most memorable scary moments in my gaming history. Souls PvP has been dead boring after 2 imo, invading in elden ring is just a joke.
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>>725919831
>forbidden sun and ice rapier at 90k sm
nice training wheels
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>>725920702
>subtly shit on the best mechanic ever
I was explicitly praising DaS's online interconnectivity, despite expressing personal disinterest. You can post your PvP clips without being an inflammatory, disingenuous nigger.
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>>725919831
>ice rapier
>flame weapon
>rapier doesn't melt
MIYAZAKI
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It's a shame most people never got to experience being Gravelord'd
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>>725920868
>praised without ever interacting cause pirated
Get your story straight first
>>725920827
Yeah, but I skipped it my entire life before and I wanted to try it out.
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>Victim has no indication that they were invaded
>invader looks like one of the hundred NPC's walking around, invader can larp as a NPC to stay undetected
>can stalk the victim playing his singleplayer game completely oblivious until you start your objective
Watch Dogs 1 had the best invasion mechanic bar none
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>>725920502
I play games to have fun
I have enough accomplishments irl
Your autistic obsession with thinking that people care how good you are at videogames is entirely foreign to me
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>play game
>get invaded
>guy obliterates me because i dont have shit and I build my characters retarded if i’m not invading
>respawn and keep playing and get my souls back
It’s like an occasional bad rng instadeath baked into the game that rarely has any impact on my gameplay if im the host. Meanwhile if i’m invading it’s almost always too easy because the typical solo host doesn’t know what’s going on, but if i’m fighting coopers it’s really fun for me but not for them
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>>725921410
>But I have accoplishments irl!
Lmao the posturing
All those accomplishments to be so SHIT at games!
They didn't grant you enough skill to have fun with the game as intended, why don't you play an easier, casual baby game instead then?
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>>725921404
>a perfect blend of Dark Souls' invasions with Assassin's Creed Multiplayer's "Anyone could be the killer' paranoia
Watch Dogs 1 deserved so much better
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>>725921316
>>praised without ever interacting cause pirated
What's the issue here? I can commend From for their novel multiplayer approach with invasions/co-op/covenant invasions, and I like learning about niche, complex systems like vagrants and miracle resonance that few players are going to run into in regular play, even if I don't interact with any of these features myself.
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>>725921554
>respawn and keep playing and get my souls back
See, that's the mentality of a well adjusted gamer that doesn't get his balls in a twist over taking an L in a videogame
Meanwhile,
>16 years of seething casuals that never got over being raped by a scRaping spear in DES and just plain raped in undead burg in ds1
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>>725921224
cause it doesnt do shit until ng+ and then its on a fucking zombie
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>>725921556
Oh, thanks for letting me know I'm not having fun playing videogames
I was under the misapprehension that I was having fun playing videogames, but thanks to your opinion about my internal state of mind I will now no longer have fun playing videogames
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>>725919759
>maining the minigame side content
you didn't play the game
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>>725921224
I used to play with a ptde mod that would add in all the gravelord phantom enemies and vagrants. was a good time
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Will fromsoft's netcode improve anyway?
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>>725921815
They easily could
Seamless coop PVP has perfect netcode, every invasion has like 40ms ping at worst
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>>725919759
>Making the same thread again to post your gay ass clips
Make a Youtube channel and fuck off you faggot
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>>725921670
The issue is you being a disingenous fake smile faggot who cannot have a real opinion due to never experiencing the mechanic and avoiding it by """pirating""" the games.

I have seen every excuse under the sun. Every single time the one providing it is a pussy who can't take an L
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>>725921913
This is a better thread than your splash image shill threads with zero gameplay webms will ever be
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>>725921404
Still remember the first time i saw what i thought was an NPC hijack a car and speed off a bridge
Is invasions in Watch dogs still available or has it been retired?
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>>725921404
sure, but the game was overhyped ubishit slop nevertheless, so it's irredeemable anyway
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>>725921224
If they did, they would complain that it's inconveniencing them and ask for it to be removed.
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>>725922059
Being an attention whore is not better, fuck off
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>>725921554
Bloodborne, DS3, and Elden Ring making invasions majority or exclusively 2v1, 3v1, etc. offsets the advantage that the invader has. I say has because he almost always has one singular advantage, which is knowing how PvP works. But even that is beaten by reckless aggression from 2-3 co-op'ers.
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>>725919759
>The ultimate gatekeep mechanic ever invented in all of gaming.
What a bunch of retarded bullshit.
Concept is nice but the execution is lacking.
It's either twinking and cheating from the dickwraith side, or 5 vs 1 invader farming from the player's side.
Also shit's impossible to balance and easy to abuse from both sides.
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>>725922314
>It's either twinking and cheating from the dickwraith side
noob excuses
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>>725922212
Cry harder, bg3 is played by nobody, kcd2 is played by nobody, alan woke is played by nobody, winter burrow is played by nobody, hades2 is played by nobody
Souls games are PLAYED because they have WEBMS
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>>725921404
shame about the rest of the game
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>>725922337
Retard take.
Tell me about balanced multiplayer when twinked out sl1-10 with +5 lightning weapon and toxic inducing dung pies invades people in starting gear in Undead Burg you fucking imbecile.
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>>725919759
The level of fun during invasions is directly tied to the tryhardness of the players.
If one is using overpowered shit, while the other is a casual adventurer, then it's not fun.
If both are casual, or if both are tryhards, then it's fun.
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>webms of 2 hitting players WHILE staggering on the first hit
i cant take souls pvp faggots seriously
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>>725922314
Now define twinking
>inb4 it is having something I don't even though I could have just explored and got it
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>>725922539
trve.
I have fond memories of invading in low level because I would specifically create high defense, low damage characters. So I'm like a mini boss for the player, but in return i can't burst damage the player like a faggot.
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>>725922539
Doesn't happen retard, you can only get matched within 3 weapon levels.
Lightning rapier +5 is essentially a +15 weapon in ds1 cause for an infusion you need to upgrade it.
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>>725922002
>avoiding it by """pirating""" the games
The only thing I'm avoiding is paying money, which sounds like a good deal to me since I can still experience everything the game has to offer offline. Choose not to believe me all you want. I saved 60 bucks either way.
>excuse
Why do I need an excuse to not play PvP? Is not wanting to play the game online insufficient? Why do offline players enrage you to such a degree?
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>>725922539
waaah balance waaah. try not being noob
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>>725922562
>define twinking
You're not stupid anon. You know what it means.
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>>725922725
only matters for remaste, in original DS you could easily have max level weapon or pyro hand and wail on noobs with unupgraded gear newfag
>>725922761
try not being shitty twink who can only win by using OP gear on noobs that just left tutorial area
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>>725920534
Specifically MOUND MAKERS covenant was peak.
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>>725922562
>Now define twinking
Are you retarded or just pretending?
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>dogshit2 pvp
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>>725922314
Invaders' ability to twink has been kneecapped since Dark Souls 3. And with how much more common password phantoms are in Elden Ring, the ability to twink is virtually nonexistent. The game is also designed in such a way that you're encouraged to acquire items whenever you want. The dectus medallion lets you skip from Act 1 straight to Act 2 (Altus and beyond), and there's a warp gate that very conveniently sends you directly to the area where it is. And, coincidentally, the best "twink" talisman in the game is right next to it.

All the "twinking" in Elden Ring merely comes from game knowledge. For example, a new player will pick up storm stomp at the beginning of the game and think it's worthless, while an experienced player knows that it's actually one of the best hyper armor options in the game, extremely good in 2v1s / 3v1s. A new player and an experienced player could easily make the same basic bitch barbaric roar build within 10 minutes of starting the game, as every necessary item for even a heavily neutered version of the build is within Limgrave
>the club, the starting weapon of the Deprived, has barbaric roar on it
>the roar medallion is dropped by the stonedigger troll boss
>the +10 STR and charge attack physick tears are in Limgrave, and require nothing to pick up
>the axe talisman is in a chest beneath where Blaidd is, and requires nothing to pick up
I'm not even allowing the invader a barbaric roar morning star in this hypothetical, because that would require going to Liurnia. A more mean example would be that an experienced player knows that the antspur rapier only requires defeating a single enemy, and then they could rot low level hosts to their heart's content.

"Twinking" in Elden Ring is just a way of saying that one player knows how the game works, and the other doesn't. While there are edge cases like people abusing status effects early, this stuff falls off fast. Twinking hasn't really existed for years.
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>>725923000
Dark souls 2 contrarians are the fucking worst.
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>>725922728
I merely called you out for being a fake
And now you're jumping trough hoops to try and say it's me who's mad, meanwhile if you were really just an offline pirate player you wouldn't be here for this long trying to defend yourself
>>725922816
I am well aware of what twinking is - getting something unobtainable at the level with help of another player or an exploit.
In ds1 and ds3 you have to have a level boss active to be able to invade in the location, so it was a gated progression.
You could invade in undead burg because you could skip killing it's boss.
You could invade in the wall of lothric cause you could activate the dancer after you killed Vordt.
In Elden Ring you can just ride around and collect shit and you would invade only your level and upgrade range = not twinking
In DS2 you only invade based on how many souls you acquired in a playtrough = not twinking

Having a shred of foresight for PREPARATION is not twinking.
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>>725923030
Thanks for the wall of text but you should have finished reading the sentence instead, the '5 vs 1 twink farming' part.
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>>725923030
Also players aren't magically better at the game at high levels. The average co-op player is a fucking retard, regardless of whether they're level 20 or level 713.

>>725923108
I feel like you have to have played DS2 first to like it at all.
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>>725919759
The cycle of daro souls pvp invasionfag
>Create new character
>Call friends to carry you through almost entire game so you can have access to darkwraith covenant and broken endgame items/spells while staying at very low level.
>Get dark beads.
>Go to any low level zone like undead burg.
>Spend hours invading other low lvl players and keep oneshooting them with dark beads while they can't do anything with that.
>Few people actually used Indictment on your ass.
>Now you are farmed by snek femboy police who also have lategame items and can counter your dark beads jank.
>Delete your character.
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>punting noobies who just picked up the game and have no idea what's happening on the screen
how mediocre at vidya do you have to be for your brain to find this stimulating and entertaining
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>>725923168
I did, but it's still relevant. The imbalance swings both ways, but it's odd that twinking continues to be brought up as if it's more relevant than:
>me and 2 of my friends wait to gang bang you in a flat, featureless void with no enemies
Frozen lake, my beloved. I like 3v1s, but ganks are a bit too boring - and they're so much more frequent than twinking in my experience, having done a lot of co-op / taunter's tongue as well.
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>>725921556
bro really saved a video about killing an afk dude
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>Delete your character.
Never happens, you just described the fun starting
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Wait is this the ponyfucker having another melty?
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>>725923492
>t. watched only first 10 seconds out of 30
What is your attention span, sir?
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>>725923319
>The imbalance swings both ways
Yes, that was exactly the point I was making in my post because OP is retarded and completely blind to obvious downsides stemming from subpar implementation.
>but it's odd that twinking continues to be brought up as if it's more relevant
People probably remember the early games more?
Twinks got slowly shafted more and more in each souls iteration but early games allowed some pretty wild shit.
Scraping spear trolling in DeS, Undead burg inferno with toxic shitpies and maxed pyro hand etc.
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>>725923569
Sorry, was the part where he's picking his controller back up supposed to be the fight?
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>>725923516
>Implying most invaders care about fun and challenging PVP experience, not boosting EGO with easy kills by using pvp jank builds.
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>>725923583
I assume that the majority of people who criticize invasions don't actually engage with them, and just rely on out-of-date mis/information from when it was much worse. If you forced any of these people to walk in the red man's shoes for a few invasions, they'd probably think differently. Seamless co-op's invasions also prove that it really is just a systemic imbalance, because when you even the playing field, even with the co-op'ers having the numbers advantage, it tips the scale. You can actually invade while progressing through the game normally in seamless without getting repeatedly raped by ganks, it's great.

I find the imperfections of FromSoft multiplayer charming, up to a point. Elden Ring is probably one of the worst implementations they've ever done, though.
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>>725923748
Oh hello, local shcizo, projecting as always I see
>>725923630
No, that part was supposed to be a spook
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Seek help and meds pls.
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How would YOU fix invasions and insert some semblance of balance, preventing both twink shitters with endgame gear decimating noobs in starter gear and also invader farming players and their level 700 password summoned butt buddies?
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>>725920089
>main features of the game.
a stale novelty that has long over stayed its welcome.
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>>725924181
When you invade you have to pick from a preset loadout that is thematically relevant to the area you are invading in
IE anal rodeo would be some variation of silver knight cosplayer
This is kino and prevents shitters from grabbing endgame gear to shit on newbies
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>>725924204
Seethe
>>725924181
I would just improve the overlevel downscaling
Everything else is balanced out by stat requirements
>but end game gear!!
Is shit at low levels/inconsequential
>but dragon halberd
Is in limgrave, you got knowledge check'd
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>>725919759
>psychopath too shit for fighting games
>too much of a pussy to mug and rob people
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>>725923152
>>725924020
>kills
>afk guy
>literally naked guy
>bow only memer
These are the people that ran "git gud" into the ground
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>>725924310
>IE anal rodeo would be some variation of silver knight cosplayer
People already did that (to a degree) using Dragonslayer Greatbow to shoot people down from rafters.
It was pretty fun.
That said thematic invasions are great.
Picture related was the most fun I had with multiplayer in DS1 despite the shit all stamina and fatrolling.
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>>725924310
You have 2 friends with end game gear
You have more HP
You have more healing items
Your friends can heal
You have more levels (you can only invade up)
You have stronger weapons
You have an entire covenant of blues made to protect you
And you still lose
>>725924396
I can see your blatant seething
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>>725924481
And you have whatever enemies exist on the map
You have no argument when you hide behind 7000 skeletons
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>>725920089
>fake gamers.
okay but who the fuck would actually care about being considered a "real gamer"?
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I never finished DS2. The game was absolute trash and when I got to these three sentinel bosses some nigger started camping me with some gay ass estoc build or something which stunlocked and insta killed you. Eventually I fucked him up and killed the boss but the right after he started camping me again with his gay ass friends. Really bizarre.
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Are you aware that a schizo is stealing your content and posting them in his bot threads like this?
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>>725924181
>>725924310
>When you invade you have to pick from a preset loadout that is thematically relevant to the area you are invading in

I wish From would do more 'unusual' invasions like Old Monk in DeS.
You could invade an area but instead of using your own build you'd be able to posses a number of mobs there using their weapons and skills trying to impede the player.
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>>725924645
>archive bitch
lmaoing at you.
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>>725924481
Only one seething is you dodging that statement. Go on, give me another cope
I see a
>afk guy
>literally naked guy
>bow only memer
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>>725924713
>d-d-don't p-p-oint out my s-sschyzophrenia b-b-bitch
lel
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>>725924705
Thats the idea
Taking control of a monster, or atleast their loadout, is how invasions SHOULD work
Instead of "Invaded by dark spirit cockmongler" you should get "Enitity possessed by cockmongler"
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>>725924591
>but you have a scary screaming monkey we can oneshot near you!
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>newfags still engaging the retard webm spammer
why
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>>725924181
Some starters:
>the taunter's tongue cannot be disactivated during multiplayer
>invaders reward rune arcs when killed
>any multiplayer victory rewards additional items, not just a rune arc, depending on the area
>fix downscaling (tl;dr it's backwards)
>implement an additional downscaling formula that reduces password phantoms' PvP damage relative to how many levels higher than the invader they are
>tutorialize PvP so players understand basic concepts that apply to PvP
You really can't "fix" multiplayer without losing a lot of elements that make FromSoft games good, especially when it comes to build-making. The issue with FromSoft multiplayer isn't that there's some sort of specific imbalance that needs to be fixed; most of these were fixed with Dark Souls 3's changes. Level AND weapon upgrade level matchmaking do have a significant effect on the multiplayer experience, and it's important to remember that the invader is still lower level and has a lower weapon upgrade level on average due to the multiplayer matchmaking formula.

The issue is that PvE players don't understand PvP at all, even though it isn't difficult to play. Most of the changes above aren't fixing imbalances, but improving multiplayer onboarding - giving players a reason to engage with the multiplayer. For example, a lot of hosts don't use rune arcs because they think they're a finite resource, but if you provide players with rune arcs for engaging with the multiplayer you're also providing a direct incentive to learn how it works.

The other half of onboarding is tutorializing. I know it goes against FromSoft's design philosophy to explicitly tell the player how to play the game, but it would help if, for example, the Alberich fight in the Roundtable Hold was actually a duel with a voiced NPC whom the player is likely to lose to. If the player wins, they know how to PvP. If they lose, Alberich gives them some basic information, because that's all you really need to win invasions.
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>>725925506
What, jelly it's more engagement than with your bg3 shilling?
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I noticed anti-invader crowd is predominantly left wing while invaders are mostly right wing. What can explain this phenomenon?
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>>725926334
>>725926458
>/pol/garbage replaying to own post
pathetic even for a /pol/tard
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>>725926458
is this true?
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>>725925506
sad thing is he sucks at the game.
all starting areas and noob opponents.
needs to have the fight be over as soon as possible with op gear, instead enjoying it.

probably 3rd worlder.
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>>725926738
Keep seething basedboy
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>>725926905
lol, i'd wipe the floor with you so hard you'd uninstall the game.
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>>725926905
>ds2 spamming shitter
>uppity imbecile
every fucking time
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>>725926624
idk but if enough people agree with it i might too
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>>725926905
how recent are those invasions, I can't find anyone on 400k sm
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>>725927023
Go ahead, try it without cheats :)
>>725927079
Keep seething s0ib0i
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>>725926458
>high T male
>free thinkers
Lmao they tend to be like "I will adopt whatever opinion gives me the most respect and influence"

It's the exact same mechanism, but even more extreme. It's why they are so vulnerable to shit like TikTok trends, or wear whatever fashion label is currently important, or get all that bling, or drive a fast car or other things important for the self image. They form opinions based on "will it improve my standing in society if I support this"?

Best seen in that very line of reasoning: "only the weak form opinions based on this, but I am not weak, no I am strong and strength gives me respect, therefor I will adopt those other opinions".
It's why particularly right wing media frames everything in a context of "this is humiliating us/this is what makes us strong" because the perception of strength (and respect) is all that matters.

They are just as vulnerable to peer pressure, if not more so, than the people being called out there. Only that the pressure here is more selfish in regards to "how can I profit from it".
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>shred of skill
You copied your loadout from some YouTuber
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>>725927265
sure, but sometimes you need the strength to accept that the truth isnt some esoteric reality. maybe the vaccine was just a scam, and neither a plan to murder people nor very effective as medicine
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>>725919759
This thread is made by dragonirian.
3/4th of the posts in here are also made by him.
He's a perpetually online, mentally ill attention whore.
He always puts line breaks after every sentence because he thinks it makes him look cool.
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>mentally ill
and what does that make the person who meticulously created that image, color coded it, and then spammed it?
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>>725927143
This one is from october, here's a few days old one
>>725927314
I literally just chose a weapon and built around it
>>725927487
You didn't cry about your obsession for 111 posts, i know it took a lot of restraint.
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>>725920534
I agree with this post unironically
Gank City was fun as fuck
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>>725922378
>kcd2 is played by nobody
I just got done playing it for like 6 hours straight.
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>>725927760
And yet you post no webms of the gameplay to the shill threads, curious.
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>>725927798
Why would I be recording anything while I was playing? I didn't even know this thread was up.
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>>725927898
because you like the game so much you want to share it with others?
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>>725927940
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those threads are like skinnyfat dudes boasting they can beat up toddlers
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>>725928014
And when we beat (you) up you go
>ehm, i'm actually a toddler and you just literally raped me
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god I miss DS2 pvp, it was just so random and hijinx enough compared to the other games, and I think in large part it was because of the variety of the level design
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>Buy a game
>Game is interrupted by an uninvited, unemployed, autistic poopsocker hell bent on proving to himself that the time he spent gitting gud was worth not leaving the house for months and that epicly pwning teh noobs is a good use of his time for days on end
Yeah, nah. I had a friend who used to spend ages showing me clips of him parrying in PVP as if I was supposed to be impressed, he couldn't get his around the fact I didn't care in the slightest that he'd been up all night taking speed and invading.
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>>725928127
It's still active, just get blue acolyte for infinite invasions and wex dust functionality
>>725928184
>all that melty
You're bad at games :)
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>>725927597
>I literally just chose a weapon and built around it
Yeah, after watching several YouTube videos
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>>725919952
Have fun with Jester Thomas and the Forlorn, pal.
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>>725928318
You don't need to do that to choose a weapon, you just look at the minimum stats to wield it.
Ultra Great Swords are the easiest weapons to defeat in the game by the way.
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>>725928242
Yep. And the fact I don't care about that makes me a better man than you. You know that, deep down.
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>>725928486
You learned that from YouTube by the way
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>>725928089
lukewarm iq
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>why yes, i play souls games exclusively offline. how could you tell?
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>schizo started samefagging
Aww, true melty achieved :)
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>>725927541
I didn't make that image and I posted it maybe 5 times total, if that. stop projecting your behavior onto others you fucking lunatic.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/unrefuted/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/%20Screenshot_20251101-134713/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/Yenna.jpg/image/fz3LTjqVoCv8uCVqkFfw0w/
I can't comprehend how many variations of your spam exists between all the different filenames and hashes that you keep changing constantly, it's probably in the thousands. Can't imagine how pathetic your life must be if you're this starved for attention, and on an anonymous imageboard of all things.
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>>725919759
So much nostalgia, binged the entire franchise with a group of friends during covid lockdown era. So many hours spent literally crying laughing from ganking invaders and also getting gank spanked many times as well. Sad to say but one of the best times of my life was playing these games with my buds. We dont talk anymore which is sad and I can't bring myself to play Elden Ring because it takes me back to those days and I miss it.
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>>725928693
>And no, I don't read item descriptions.
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>>725919759
too bad elden ring dropped the ball with invasions
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>>725928802
>being this mad over your shill threads being derailed by one picture
Maybe if you made webms of your game it would have better engagement anon
I'm not even talking about you obsessfagging, your threads are just always shit waifu folder spam that is always the same.
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>>725928802
>it's probably in the thousands
in the tens of thousands, have another https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/IMG_20250130_192735_912/
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>>725922891
I fucking loved being purple and insane
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>>725927487
>3000 of 5963 results found
How can one man be based to such a degree a schizo starts spamming his name for 2 years without signs of stopping?
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>>725925506
They're not newfags they're bots. That's what makes it even funnier.
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>>725922891
>>725928997
'member teaming up with Watchdogs of Farron or Aldrich Faithful to beat ganksquads
kino times
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>>725929082
You're reposting screenshots of your shitty takes on this board every day, with your name in them. Why does that surprise you, didn't you want attention? You are getting it, though probably not in the way you anticipated.
Also did that image really make you so uncomfortable that you had to reply to it 3 separate times?
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>>725929368
I never posted a single picture you accuse me of posting, schizo
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>>725929201
I wouldn't exactly call it "teaming up" but yeah
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>>725929428
lol
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>>725929428
god damn input reading
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>>725923030
>"Twinking" in Elden Ring is just a way of saying that one player knows how the game works, and the other doesn't.
So, noobstomping
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>>725929595
You are still a noob after 16 years of souls games.
Explain yourself.
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>>725929428
Do you think anybody believes that? You're so up your own ass you've already forgotten that you posted >>725925895 in this very thread. Everybody knows that BG3 and KCD2 are the favorite targets of your spam, you're so obsessed you couldn't help yourself but mention one of them completely unprompted in your video dump thread.
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>>725929929
Yes I saw your shill threads and I laughed at your meltdowns for 2 years.
But i never posted your obsession.
I recently started posting my ds2 webms in your shill threads because your game never has webms, so I'm posting a game that is actually played here to your threads!
You should be thanking me.
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>>725930043
Nobody believes your fiction. You're not even smart enough to change the way you type, line breaks after every sentence give you away, I can go to archive right now and pull up dozens of posts written in the same retarded way with the screenshots of `totally not you` attached.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/722689014/#722689463
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721630637/#721634169
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721358168/#721360067
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721358168/#721359434
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721345409/#721350361 (would you look at that, this and the previous ones even has the same exact rhetoric you literally just shat out lmfao)
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>>725930340
Keep seething, s0i schizo, it boosts my thread engagements
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>>725930419
>thread engagements
Imagine actually talking like that.
I hope you get some good money out of it, at the very least.
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>>725930419
>thread engagements
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>>725919759
>kill my internet
haha whoops
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Always nice to torture a dex hex build
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Guys, I'm starting to think this is just one guy arguing with himself like that Hogwheels fella on /pw/
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i started out using the finger to allow invaders to come consistently in elden ring but eventually i got tired of most people using the same blood shooting katana build
i do appreciate the guys who came up with unique stuff or doing funny roleplaying though
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Here's how to make your thread into a general with one simple trick!

DS2 looks and plays better than BG3
DS2 completely lacks any woke shit, unlike BG3
DS2 sold better than BG3 (we have sales numbers officially reported)
DS2 has a bettter character creator than BG3
DS2 is still played by actual people, unlike BG3
BG3 just kinda sucks on all fronts to be honest
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>>725922868
I used to go into Undead Burg with a 200+ level character and use the dried finger to grief twinks. It was kind of amusing to me that ivaders could invade up but not down, so it'd generally force twinks into your world. The hate mail was gloriously hypocritical, of course.
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>>725930979
Wow they must suck, Rivers of Blood was nerfed to shit years ago
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>>725931183
it was pretty soon after release
maybe its gotten better recently but id guess that people just follow the new hottest streamer build
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>this whole thread: BROOOOOOO LOOK AT ME INVADING NOOBS ON A TWINKED OUT CHARACTER AINT I HECKIN COOL
None of these are even remotely interesting gameplay-wise, shitter. What the fuck are you spamming your low-effort garbage for?
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>>725931431
It's an attention whore seeking attention.
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>>725931431
>pc
You didn't play back in the day if you didn't suffer the abominable load times on ps3

Post your character with a white kantana
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>>725928906
It is a known fact that niggers can't read
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>>725931510
I figured as much.

>>725931518
What character, retard? Look at the date, I haven't played the game in a decade, even if I reinstalled it - it doesn't have steam cloud integration.
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>>725931431
lol
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>>725931518
The PC version came out like a month later than the console versions, you fucking retarded spaz.
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>>725931880
No it didn't.
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>>725919759
>The perfect entertainment for anyone with a shred of skill
But the game coddles the everloving hell out of invaders, hosts risk their progression while invaders risk nothing.
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>>725931946
Yes it did, you absolute fucking retard, why are you even debating? Are you legit braindamaged?
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>>725932027
>p-progression...
Cry more noob
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>>725932041
Better than anything OP's posted.
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>>725920534
Kek no you faggot, DaS3 began the cancer of LOL ROLL 8 TIMES IN A ROW trivialization of resource management that makes modern invasions such a fucking slog sinc everyone can sprint and roll away like a pussy with ease
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>>725919759
I love DS2 invasions, but deathblight is just too fun to pass over
https://youtu.be/gtDc_N8OmJk
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>>725931772
"lol" what? Sotfs came out in 2015, are you showing me that you autistically played it for 10 years straight? I'd still shit on you back when I actively played, guaranteed.
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>>725932702
Well you won't shit on me now, so keep barking, that's all you can do
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>>725932835
If the garbage you keep spamming is anything to go by then you're still trash 10 years later, shitter.
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>>725932898
And you won't be able to beat it lmao
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>>725932930
You wouldn't be able to beat anybody who isn't a fresh player trying to play through the game they just got on sale. Not a single video has been posted where you beat a competent pvper.
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>>725933198
You're not one of the competent pvpers right now, so... Yeah I would totally pwn you, if you won't just make yourself a max level 99 in all stats infinite sm character
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gets invaded, immediately alt f4's

nothing personnel kiddo
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>>725933449
If 99 in every stat is what's gonna stop you from beating somebody then you turly are a shitter lol
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Pointless shit gameplay. Apply yourself
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>>725933449
>if you won't just make yourself a max level 99 in all stats
I played in the highest soul memory bracket on a level 170 character and beat plently of people with maxed or near-maxed out stats. You're bad.
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It's a fun mechanic but the majority of the time the player getting invaded has no interest in it.
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>>725933674
>>725933792
>Confessing you need every advantage against me
Kek
Go ahead, install the game
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>>725934074
>>Confessing you need every advantage against me
The fuck what are you on about, retard? I commented on your own remark.
>install the game
And do what? Sotfs and 2 aren't sharing servers, I don't own the former because I'm not so retarded as to get tricked into purchasing the same game twice in the span of one year.
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>>725934074
Shitter lol
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>>725934374
>>725934536
>Excuses to avoid dueling
Lol
Lmao
True shitter
Fishing for a webm of someone else killing me then?
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>>725934915
Lol shitter
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>>725934915
Send me a sotfs key and I'll duel you.
tabama6279 at chaineor . com
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>perma catring
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>>725935940
Rise, it's just sanctum leggings
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>>725935303
Looks like the shitter got scared and went back to spamming trash.
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>>725936203
Not getting any freebies, pablo
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>>725936420
>Excuses to avoid dueling
Lol
Lmao
True shitter
Fishing for a webm of someone else killing me then?
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>>725936491
Looks like you're brown and poor to me
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Invaders are just the digital version of school bullies: fags who love to harass those weaker than them but immediately shit their pants and act like victims when the odds are even slightly against them.
You'll notice not one of them ever posts videos of duels in the designated pvp areas, it's only ever minmax autists running the same copy-pasted sets against players clearly not on their level.
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>>725936975
But are invasions rape?
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>>725936926
If you're white and rich, surely it won't be a problem to purchase a videogame key to prove your point. Looks like you're fishing for excuses, pussy ;)
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>>725937049
Not giving you anything of value, keep barking and get shit on. Looking forward to Trump steamrolling your cartels.
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>>725937126
Epic peeveepee gaymur LARP: failed.
White richman LARP: unsuccessful.
Pussy + shitter + can only bully complete noobs while having 12k hours + lol + lmao + rofl
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>>725937025
Is there a term for when a would-be rapist goes after someone only to have the tables turned on him and he gets raped instead?
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>>725920320
10 years ago there wouldn't be 2 sides to this argument at all, neo-/v/ is simply so shit at games there's a non-negligible fraction of anons who unironically seethe at the redmen. This board is washed.
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>webm spam of bottom-tier gameplay
this thread gets dragonirian seal of shit from me
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The only game where invasions are actually dogshit is Elden Ring and that's only because the game is balanced around oneshotting each other with quint-buffed sorceries or ashes of war. So from the host's perspective it's getting killed in one hit by a spell from across the map or by an obscure attack they've never seen before, and from the invader's perspective it's trying to unzip a 3000 damage attack into the host before his overleveled password phantoms oneshot you with overlapping dragon incants and DLC ashes. So it's kind of gay for both sides. But classic Dark Souls invasions are still peak. I'd literally take being twinked in the Burg over your average ER invasion.
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>>725930419
you got btfo with facts and logic
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>>725937663
Everyone was ok with invasions until wood grain Havel and giantdad became a thing and every single invader was a min-max build griefing low lvl areas to style on noobs. There were fucking guides on what soul lvl to stay at to greif each area and how to speedrun the builds, it was the very opposite of skillful play.
Any invaders bitching about getting gangbanged in ER or DS3 should remember they did that to themselves.
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>>725919952
/thread
the perfect
>I don't care about MP gayming with people that have no lives except min-maxing builds
feature
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>>725937663
Silksong exposed so many casuals
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>>725938417
Last time I played through DS3, it was a perma-embered run, and all but a single invader was an RP build with a name like "Logreth the Nameless" or some shit. I didn't get actually griefed once unless you count "uh oh his spear is longer than my spear I'm at a disadvantage" as griefing. I swear all you fags do is watch YouTube montages of pvp griefers instead of actually playing pvp.
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>>725938805
Silksong is bullshit though. It's launch balance was basically a Mario Maker Kaizo mod of what Silksong should have been, you were being raped up the ass by ~100 rosary benches in the starting area and spikes dealt 2 damage. They're still undoing Retard decisions like your lifesteal healing not working on launch against blocked hits.
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Souls PvP is simply not fun.
If I want this type of experience, I play fighting games instead
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>>725938807
>Last time I played through DS3
Which was when, exactly? Besides, do you really want to pretend something that was happening in fucking ER isn't real because of your anecdotal experience? Really?
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>>725939701
2 years ago, right after SOTE. It was a real palette cleanser after that dogshit. Imagine actually getting an honest invader, who's fighting you with his weapons, and you two fight each other with your actual weapons using spacing and tactics and shit, instead of rushing to see who can press L2 first and deal 4000 damage like in ER. Shocking.
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Notice how many of these webms are from DS2, the one Souls game you cannot start in offline mode from the main menu.
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Anyone want to play dark souls remastest mod?
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>>725939238
It's a good thing then that invasions aren't fighting games and are instead weird wars of attrition and scumfuck tactics between hosts/summons and invaders as they fight throughout a level in an action-rpg game.

Unless you mean duels in which case you are 100% correct. Dueling in these games is fucking retarded. Go play a fighting game if you want "honorable" 1v1's.
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at least post something funny
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>>725919952
>Fears the invader chad to such a degree that he's forced to play offline
Typical herbivore cattle behavior.
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>>725938805
That's one of the reasons I love this game.
All those Elden Ring seamless coop bandwagoners thinking they're good at games getting destroyed and proceeding to seethe was a pleasure to watch.
>>725941235
It's rare, unfortunately
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>Souls fans still trying to larp as hardcore gamers
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>>725931772
>webm spammer is autistic
that explains a lot really
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>>725941752
Your seethe is blatant btw :)
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>>725919759
This is that Russian brony lolcow getting autistic again about invasions isn't it
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>>725940641
>2 years ago
That explains it, the game is almost 10 years old, the only people playing it 2 years ago or even today are those who never left, a couple newbies to the series, and those replaying it like you.
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>>725922229
Reckless aggression is what I'm baiting when I invade with my Karmic Justice suicide bomber lol
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>>725942098
I return to it sometimes, I'm not the guy with 10k in SOTE, I got like 300
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>>725922560
>waah i can't dodge a zweihander
Git gud, faggot.
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>>725941912
>just walks up to them and spams r1
Those are just your friends RPing for your videos lmao
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>>725943445
You seethe so hard you have to cope this much?
Face it, you can't win an invasion.
You wouldn't even be able to play with agape ring, handicapping yourself forever.
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PVP aside, do enough people still play either version for white summons?
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All those hexers deserve death...
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>>725923187
Wrong
sl1 with a +10 bandits knife and I dominate the Burg just 1/2 hour after starting. You can rush 4 Kings without issue.
And Darkmoons barely existed. Indictment was an honor. Proof you never even played.
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>>725944164
I see plenty of white signs in SOTE
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>the ultimate gatekeep mech- ACK
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>>725944335
I accept your concession, your written confirmation of being a shitter, and I thank you for a free win, webm related >>725922378
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>make invaders seethe and shit their pants uncontrollably
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>>725944521
>adds invasions
I still remember the seethe
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>>725941752
Nearly everyone here has the tism.
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>makes invaders slam their desks in anger
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>>725944776
>has invasions on release
Kek
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>>725944776
>Remastered
GAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY
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>>725944996
refer to >>725944463
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>friend gone, starts running
Every single time
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>make invaders melt down in rage fits
>>725944590
>>725944818
>change allow_invaders to 0
>send invaders into consecutive panic attacks
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>>725938807
A lot of Elden Ring invaders are complete degenerates because the system enforces degeneracy. I usually invade as some sort of "cute" thematic or RP build, but this doesn't stop hosts' level 300 password phantoms from spamming cheated DLC consumables at you and teabagging your corpse. Most people quickly get sick of this and just make a "mean" build like everyone else.
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>>725945286
>change allow_invaders to 0
Well you just confessed to being a shitter yourself, really, that's the "I'm a loser" setting you are forced to set. Forced by me, merely existing.
Feels good.
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Having just replayed DS1 PTDE I wouldn't even mind invaders as long as online weren't completely dead.
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>>725938605
>just give me my melty button because i can't measure up
kek
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>>725943943
You've been here for hours posting webms of you killing players who put up less of a fight than fucking NPCs, one of them just stands there for 2 whole casts of poison cloud. If this is the best you have to back up your tough guy act then don't be surprised when everyone calls you out.
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>>725945464
>you have to let me join your game otherwise *made up rule*
lol what are you going to do? tell your mom? lmao
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>>725919759
Seamless coop chads making invaders MAD
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>>725945824
>everyone
Schizo, you have been spamming about your obsession for more than half of this thread.
>>725945939
>i'm a shitter and proud of it
Lol, lmao, okay, just don't be surprised when real gamers laugh at

On another note, I like the red iron twinblade
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>>725945939
Enjoy your baby mod that doesn't affect me (console CHAD btw).
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>>725946058
How? Invaders won't ever see or know you.
Yet, you know invaders and your butthurt has determined your behavior, to the point you're waving a pussy flag.
LMFAO
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>>725946306
baited this much by every passing comment
you truly lost
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I'm gonna assume all the dudes crying about invaders are just baiting for (you)s, I refuse to believe nu-/v/ is actually full of victims
>>725939238
>If I want this type of experience, I play fighting games instead
Two different experiences, actual mechanical combat in souls games suck because 90% of the entertainment comes with interacting with the stage and enemies around you. Fighting games are fun but if i wanna actually chase down a dude and trap him in a corner while me and 10 npcs rape him i'll be out there invading
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You know I will continue doing this.
What are you going to do about it?
Run away from me into a mod, proving I successfully gatekept you? Kek
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>>725921224
> That one Chained Prisoner red phantom in Oolacile
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>>725946418
>b-b-b-baited...
You can't even fight, dipshit. You're here crying over your lack of capability and getting laughed at kek
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having fights with real players is cool but the way it fits into the structure of a soul's game seems out of place? why would I want to randomly bork a run of a level that's been going for 20+ minutes?
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>>725946734
You can just pop your humanity at the gate before the boss dumdum.
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>causes anxiety attacks in invaders
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>>725946734
>why would I want
You're not being asked, that's the point, it's in the name. Invasions are supposed to be invasive.
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>>725936192
>>725935554
>>725930746
>>725924020
>>725923152
I'm trying to get into invasions and would like some hints.
You seem to be really good so if you got the time, please, can you give me some pointers? How does one get to this level of pvp goodness? Is it just grinding?
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>>725946432
it's very telling when people can only recognize invasions as being analogous to fighting games when half of the point is, as you said, the stage and enemies. In fighting games you can't pretend to be a tree or a pot in the corner and throw debuffs at hosts getting their shit slapped by mushrooms.
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>>725946734
Invasions are optional elite enemies that you get to make spawn.
>20+minutes
>a long time
Dadgamers get back in the wage cage honestly. If your coop summon can't carry you hard enough you should just overlevel offline with your 30minutes of gaming a night.
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>>725946842
But I still have to return to the bonfire to go human, so what's your point?
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>>725947274
That only applies to Dark Souls 1 and 3
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>>725946994
1) Pick a weapon you want.
2) Plan out your build, see what class needs less levelups to come online
3) Make a new character
4) Dragonrider -> Flexile -> 30k SM -> Agape Ring -> Pursuer -> unlock blacksmith -> Craftsman hammer
5) Play the game, collecting upgrade materials and get to your chosen weapon
6) upgrade your weapon to the max, get stats to wield it
7) Blue Acolyte mod for infitine invasions and wex dust
8) Have fun, take your character up as much as you want, spending souls ONLY on things you need.
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>>725919759
I love wasting invaders time by running and hiding until they find me then I instantly disconnect. you wanna be a jerk and waste my time I'll waste yours too. get a life nobody likes you
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>>725947764
No one's time is being wasted. You both booted the game up. You signed up to play a game. And then you both played it (the way you chose to). I don't understand this dadgamer mentality.
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>>725947926
The irony is he has to reboot the game, which is longer than just taking the L.
While he reboots an invader already found a new host to kill.
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>>725947240
if I actually played with coop summons it'd be fair game I guess but it just feels weird to have a random human element enter a methodical run of pve.
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>>725948085
You can only be invaded without consent in like 2 areas of Bloodborne and 2 areas of Dark Souls 2. Don't eat the humanity (or equivalent) and you can't be invaded.
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>>725948085
PVPVE game, not PVE game, unc
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>>725947528
thank you master, I will try to attain your expertise
I hope this doesn't come off as cringe or anything, but I love you, this is so cool dude
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>>725948438
Don't forget to level your HP
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>>725948523
Oh shit, okay.
Btw what software do you use? If I ever get to your skill level I'd like to make videos like these too. Is that possible?
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>>725948806
OBS Studio and Webm for Lazys
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>>725946101
>he thinks everyone who replies to one of his webms is the same guy
And somehow I'm the schizo
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>>725948957
Uhh thanks so much I can't believe you're replying to me so fast.
Bro this is huge for me, thanks again!!! :D
I'll do my best to try to reach you, once I'll get there, I promise!
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>>725948984
Well excuse me, there is a local schizo here that loves to pretend to be multiple people to create an illusion of a little mob agreeing with him or attacking someone he dislikes, and he is in particular obsessed with this guy for whatever reason >>725941954
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>>725941205
>wars of attrition and scumfuck tactics between hosts/summons and invaders as they fight throughout a level in an action-rpg game.
See, this is the part where souls PvP seems cool, but invaders will also bitch about hosts doing whatever they deem necessary.
>NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SUMMON OTHERS TO GANK ME YOU SHOULD HAVE HONOR COWARD
Nigger you're trying to kill me, I will do whatever is necessary to stay alive. I will gank, I will run away, I will use giant tree seeds, I'll do whatever I want.
Another problem though, is that since these games are RPG's theres different builds that people separate for PvP or PvE. Whats good and/or fun in one might not be so in the other.
For example, I played through elden ring at low vigor. Yet the discourse I see about it online is
>you played with low vigor? lol scrub
This logic just seems so backward to me. These games are the only ones I've seen where you will be called bad for going for the intentionally more difficult option.
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>>725949042
Good luck bro!
Bind a record button to your controller and record only the invasions to save space!
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>>725949239
>hosts bitch will invaders winning
>invaders will bitch about hosts winning
it's almost like gamers can't stop themselves from bitching. it doesn't matter. play video games
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>>725949239
>These games are the only ones I've seen where you will be called bad for going for the intentionally more difficult option.
It wouldn't be a problem if scrubs weren't complaining about being oneshot.
You would not fucking believe how much arguments there were because "but MY health bar goes down 1/3 a hit and YOUR health bar barely moves!" when he and invader do the exact same damage.
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Alright, last one for today, enjoy a cheater
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>>725949846
he literally, unironically, unequivocally won
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>>725950248
Yes. Yes he did. What a chad. I have been humbled.
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>>725950248
I can't stop kneeling and squeeling.
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>>725944463
>I accept your conc-ACK!
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Are you guys just gonna suck each other off thread after thread or are you going to install dark souls remastest mod and have fun again?
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>>725951538
No we will continue this circlejerk untill the end of time. You can go play by yourself faggot.
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Question for the ds1r invaders. What weapon level would you recommend for sl 60 invasions? Should I stay somewhere around weapon level +10 or just max out everything to +15 by that point?
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>>725949846
>tries to pose at the end
>gets tapped and dies as the guy moves on
Fucking lmao, this one must have struck a nerve.
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>>725921404
I always loved invading someone and after a moment of seeing their mental confusion, they start blowing up everything around them with the grenade launcher and the cops come attack them and all of this is happening while you standing still across the street.
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>>725919759
My invader experiences have been quite postive all things consider, the very first time I ever played dark souls 3 I had a friend with me and some guy with cool spiky armor showed up, fight my buddy 1v1 killed him and gave me some embers and left.
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>>725949846
you've been posting clips and arguing with anons for 8 hours
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>>725919759
what skill when you just copy build from the internet?
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>>725953829
Link?
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>>725919759
Wtf where they thinking for ER invasions? The next game better have covenants at least
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how long does it take to be this good at pvp in these games?
is this guys cheating or something at all?
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My greatest invasion, and possibly achievement in life, was. DaS3 invasion where the host and his buddy were chasing me, I dropped off a short ledge then doubled back. They followed me and I 2 shotted them both at the same time with LKGS as they landed. Shit was cash.
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What's the activity like in DS Remastered? As dead as DS1?
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>>725954183
You don't get good, you get raped by fromsofts retarded netcode, get raped by hackers and once in a while you land a backstab.
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>>725921679
>leveled nigga with best equipment attacking some poor guy who just started playing and doesn't have flaming swords
lol
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Hey OP, nice of you to post the same retarded thread again this week. When are you going to show any footage of invading an employment service center with a resume build so you can start grinding some real souls (dollars) irl instead of being an unmitigated faggot?
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>spams some fire aoe when the enemy has just a simple sword
>"heh... git gud"
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>>725954645
Out fucking skilled
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>>725954318
Lol cope more. All you scrubs hating and seething on the only good pvper in the thread is so obvious lol. How about you git gud.
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>>725946994
just copy a build from reddit like him
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If you didn't fight a duel with pure steel you didn't beat an invasion
simple as
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I had fun doing themed invasions: Darkwraith, Tonberry, Havel with a ladle, Skeletor, Ninja Turtles, Living flame, despicable turd thrower. Rarely killing anyone except by accident. Killing hosts for the sake of killing is lost on me. Duels never clicked as I dont have a competitive bone in my body.
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Why do people hate on genuinley good multiplayer players like OP on here?
Imagine getting so good you can take on anyone you see and yet the virgins on /v/ don't see what's great about it at all. Lol.
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>>725955113
no one's hating on you. i just see people rightfully calling you out for the faggot you are. personally, i think it's hilarious how you only post wins and against people who barely know how to play the game at that
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>>725955113
Having your curated adventure interrupted by lagging nolifer who has +10 weapons invading in starting areas strikes in bad taste.

But guess same could be said about using cheat engine to trap invaders in the void so who am I to judge.
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>>725955250
why would you think I am the same person. The OP is a masterful pvper and I can't see why anyone could hate on that.
You are just jelly that's all. And that's fine and all, just... try to be better next time - just a warning for you.
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>>725955043
As with all things with a competitive edge to it, over time the fun and the gimmicks are replaced with cold, sterile optimization. (Likely a cultural consequence of a younger generation being born in a more pass or fail society unable to find fun in anything but winning) I don't think like the community that was built around a game like TF2 could even exist today, and it's also why any attempt to cash in on the nostalgia of the multiplayer golden era of the 7th console gen just never pans out. It's not even something exclusive to video games, its present in IRL sports too.
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>>725946734
Because you're CHAD THUNDERCOCK.
...or no?
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OP how long did it take you to get to where you are? Any material you had to go through and learn by heart?
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>>725955410
Please fucking stop, even I can't take the cringe
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>>725948085
>methodical
That's just a way to say you suck.
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>>725956216
master don't! I am simply just trying to defend your honor
>even I can't take the cringe
well you should be able to take way more cringe than the average /v/ goer!!! I trust you fully, oh great one
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>>725951761
Stay +10.
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Invaders are good gatekeepers but invaders are poor groundkeepers.
Yeah I could win invasions but why would I want to be invaded by boring players with boring netdecked builds and boring backstabfishing strategies that aren't even executed well? Laughing at retards and beating up children are below me. The real redpill of Souls games is that the combat actually fucking sucks and has always sucked and has always been the least interesting part of the game. I want to see what people come up with.
I stopped playing Souls games because the community is just so fucking soulless. The only fun builds I've seen are on youtube videos, never ingame. What is the appeal of a Chainmom player? "Skill" in a solved game of equipment optimization and backstab tech? And it gets worse over the Souls games, but 2 is the best because everything kinda just works and Soul Memory actually functioned until they added that dumbass ring for retards who wanted to do nothing but twink and overfish their own waters.

If games with invasion ever die, it's entirely because hosts have decided invaders are emotional vampires and bring nothing worthwhile to the table and because invaders never think about how to keep the community alive, it's entirely deserved.
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>>725956637
Shush
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why do all ds2 videos seem somewhat off
it's all so wonky looking for whatever reason compared to all the other games in the series
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>>725956216
>get hit 3 times, loose 25% of health
vs
>hit host 3 times, he loses 99% health
And invaders think they have skill. It's always one-sided bullying.
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>>725956970
Same Souls Memory as me, should've upgraded the weapon with all those souls
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>>725956902
please oh skilled one don't do this to me
I watched all your mp4s, I am worthy!
Just please tell me how to get to your level, I NEED to know!
Oh the greatest of 4chan pvpers, please bestow your knowledge upon me.
These losers don't know what you posses and are not worthy!!! Tell ME! and only me!
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>>725957129
Go and invade, my minion
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>>725957249
you're being too clear for your own good right now, this is your only warning
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>>725957386
Damn. I wanted it to be on the nose, but I guess I went too far
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>>725957541
it's all fine, if you went through the usual onboarding you do know you still have 2 more strikes.
Carry on.
Just... be more careful...
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>>725956934
yeah, i played the games in reverse order and was confused at the fact that ds1 looked a lot more like ds3 than ds2, leaving ds2 to be the only game in the trilogy that looks the way it does. in hindsight, i wonder if ds2 was meant to be a completely different game that ended up getting the dark souls label slapped on it later in development
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>>725956934
Dark Souls 2 is kinda pudgy because a lot of its mechanics function on gradients rather than just hardcaps. Under 30 and over 70 not only change your roll category, equipment weight affects stamina regen and roll distance at every percentage. You can still fatroll at 119.9% Equip Load, not 99.9%, but you are the slowest, fattest motherfucker that can't even jog at that weight. Defense doesn't have threshold functionality much like DaS1, it's basically 2000=100% damage resist. Movement is more classic Armored Core than AC6 in that you have to turn a direction to move in it without being in a special state (locked on/boosting).
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OP tomorrow at what CST are you planning on recreating your everyday noobie-punt jerk sesh?
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>>725958551
I have to ask my tulpa pony wife
Hold on
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invading in a pirated copy of DS3 was great fun even after i bought the game it never stopped being a test of skill considering how many handicaps there were on the invader side, it peaked when it was found out you could bug the game so mound makers could enter boss fights
too bad ER is shit and From will continue to make more ER forever
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>456 replies
this type of stuff is really lucrative if you're interested in jerking your noodle it seems
idiots on 4chins are bound to jump in and gobble up your shit
how nice
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>>725959640
At least half of the posts in this thread is just one guy posting webms of him killing people who just installed the game and talking to himself. Actual souls pvp threads are hard to come by sadly.
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>>725960317
Stop your blabbery
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>>725959640
I mean, the only reason this thread is alive is because the OP is a sperg who never tires of arguing with literally anyone who says literally anything. Like seriously, look at the times of these posts:
>>725919759
>OP was made at 2AM PST
>>725949846
>"last one for today" at 10AM
>>725956216
>can't stop himself, posts another at 11AM

And he was active ITT the entire time. He spent 8 hours straight sperging out in his own thread. 8 fucking hours straight.
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I just started playing a pirated SotFS but have regular DS2 on steam, is there still PVP going on/should I play online? I remember liking DS1 invasions on both sides.
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>>725960317
I have a lot to say about FromSoft PvP and invasions, but it's entirely unproductive to attempt any serious discourse about the subject here. If you're not swamped with people who brag about playing offline or disconnecting and act unnecessarily hostile toward anyone who tries to talk about invasions, you're watching invaders who fulfill every stereotype about the average invader poison the well.

These days I just invade. Because, god damn it, someone has to.
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>>725960707
And he made another post right above yours funnily enough. What I want to know is how this Russian retard hasn't been drafted to die in a trench line somewhere yet. I want to be able to discuss souls pvp without him sperging out and other retards coming in specifically to bait him.

Actually what I want is to know now is why mods have not banned this faggot.
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>>725960990
I doubt vanilla is active. SotFS should be active, especially because of how lenient DS2's multiplayer system is. DSR is active, DS3 is active, it's just shit like Bloodborne and Elden Ring that have limited online activity due to their multiplayer systems.
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>>725961049
>Actually what I want is to know now is why mods have not banned this faggot.
Come now
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>>725961049
>Actually what I want is to know now is why mods have not banned this faggot.
They did many times actually.
Range banned too.
It just... never worked, really.
Perks of having lots of large ISP's with dynamic IP's in once city. And a lot of free wifi.
I even saw a bait of joining the ecker discord in the catalogue after getting banned a year back or so, but I never bothered because why would I need to do this when I can just clear my cookies and turn airplane mode on and off a buch of times to cycle trough the ranges you know?
No recent bans though, haha
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>>725961028
Same here, no matter what I will always be a rednigger at heart and invade people. Even if there's nowhere good to discuss pvp. It just sucks that it's impossible to discuss fun lore builds, strategies, post clips or whatever else without immediate shit-flinging between autists. Most of whom probably don't even invade or even fucking duel people at the very least.

It especially sucks that I recently learned there's a fucking SUBR*DDIT dedicated to souls pvp that doesn't attract this kind of autism. I refuse to use reddit to talk and post clips about souls pvp. So instead I'm just stuck in this hell hoping that someday we can actually have cozy threads.
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OUR NEW OVERLORD
The (few) naysayers from this thread are dead or impotent anyway and as such they can't do a thing.
Blessed be the new pvp prodigy. Let the tears of the haters wash over you as you welcome him to the ranks of golden invaders such as Only aefro, sit riot, akme akari and me
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>>725961831
Ain't gonna happen. I don't know what sub it is /badredman?, but I use Reddit for one or two topics that are genuinely impossible to discuss here due to the usual factors: bait, dedicated schizos, etc. The site obviously has its own issues that don't need to be listed here, but it's better than nu-/v/.

Other than that, your only option is the PvP community on YouTube, which is mostly folks from the DS3 days who have stuck around and a few new faces. Saint and the like. But YouTube comments aren't much of a way to discuss anything.
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>>725961028
>>725961831
I find it fun to play into stereotype of the rapist invader, it just feel right to trigger a specific kind of autist rage.
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>>725962510
It's just cringe, as cringe as people who think they're making invaders mad by disconnecting or committing suicide. Simple as.
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any tips on invading gud? i mostly do arena in these souls games when i want pvp, but being a troublemaking shithead funruiner sounds kinda fun ngl
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>>725962643
That is kind of the point, isn't it?
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fuck this place
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>>725962195
yes its badredman

Honestly even with the potential to avoid schizos using r*ddit just invites different problems altogether. I don't think it could ever manage to be better than here. Even with /v/ as shit as it is now. You still don't need to worry about some fag searching your post history to look for "Unpopular opinion™" to bring it up in a completely unrelated discussion.

True that there's always the YouTube side of the community. Hell I still watch Saint's videos whenever he uploads. Even with it being YouTube comments at least its SOMETHING. Compared to the shit you get here.

>>725962689
Unironically just do invasions. You will learn the basics real fast and can see how the builds you have now can hold up to fighting multiple dudes at once rather than just in a 1v1. I know Ecelebs are a topic people don't like but if you want to learn more about invasions, as mentioned above Saint_Riot on YouTube has a ton of videos that you can watch the get an idea on how to invade in any of the games. His schtick of invading with lore nerd characters that fit into the game world is something I'm all for doing as well. Compared to other people who just want to make a build that uses whatever broken shit that one shots everyone without any braincells required is popular.

and you can always ask for advice in these threads whenever they pop up. As shitty as they are there's always at least a couple of anons who can actually offer suggestions on build making or whatever else you might need.
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>>725962689
>ds1
>ds2
retard-proof invasions, even with ds1 remastered's matchmaking adjustments.
>ds3
i can't really recall.
>elden ring
1. always observe your opponents. try to identify their builds. engage them at an opportunistic time: as they're fighting enemies, before they're about to fight enemies, and / or in an area where you can use the environment against them (traps, elevation changes, ladders, ledges, etc.)

2. be prepared. there's essentially a checklist of shit you should always bring into invasions: crab meat, status cure items, warming stones, the great ballista or cannon, an AoE / crowd control option, an anti-magic option, a hyper armor option, a chasedown / roll catch option, etc. some builds have an easier time checking off boxes than others, but every build can check every box. for example, i personally always bring night maiden's mist on almost any INT build, because it's such an amazing spell for crowd control.

3. carian retaliation and an infused misericorde, for those password phantoms you just NEED to one shot so you can actually play. technically this is part of the checklist.

4. situational awareness is king. you develop situational awareness through experience.

5. read the art of war, or at the very least a summary of its lessons. these are unironically very applicable to invading.

6. make a build or two yourself. a good way to learn how to make builds is to make a low level build focused on one, specific thing, and pushing that thing to the point of absurdity. maybe you want to one shot people with night comet. maybe you want to make a regeneration build that allows you to fight repeated skirmishes, depleting your opponents' resources. maybe you want to make a storm-themed invader to invade stormveil with. figure out one or two things you want your build to do and see how hard you can optimize them.
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fucked up how onlyafro self deported to Venezuela just on the eve of war starting there
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Master has spured a huge discourse it seems.
This site is most interested in his skills, that much is obvious.
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>>725963657
appreciate it, anon. i should learn to make webms so you guys can pick apart my shitbuilds
>>725963926
good stuff. thanks to you as well, anon. will be keeping all of this in mind. i actually have a copy of art of war too
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>>725963926
>roll catch option
btw, what exactly does "roll catch" mean in these games?
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>>725963657
That one will ban you the moment you do not conform to pride month, so good luck anon.
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>>725964925
>i should learn to make webms so you guys can pick apart my shitbuilds
OBS: set your record button to your controller so you can start it the moment you reach a host.
It is recommended to have the game you're recording and the place where you save the recording to be on different disks.
Once you have a recording, import in into Webm for Lazys. Set the size limit to 4MB, make the size of the webm to be below 720p and preferably have it shorter than 30 seconds for quality or you will have grainy artifacts like you see in many of mine.
Hit convert.
>>725965196
It means a move that allows you to time it in a way that would hit an opposing player right at the exit out of invulnerability of the dodgeroll.
Halberd running attack in Elden Ring is a great example.
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>>725964925
np anon, have fun invading. I need to make more webms also so I'm not just posting the same 10 or so from time to time. Don't be disheartened if you struggle to get wins at first as well. Elden Ring in specific is rough to learn invading because of the L2 spam meta. Sometimes you just get blendered by a host and his summons.

Also as a shitbuild enjoyer myself. I can say that they are best if you ever get bored of having super optimized characters all the time. One of my favorite builds is a dude around level 50 with an absolutely fucked statspread just so I can use all the deathblight stuff.

Besides most of the hosts and phantoms you encounter have builds that are WAY more fucked than whatever you probably have. Even having just a passing interest in pvp means you probably already understand the importance of having vigor and focusing on a damage stat. Most people are clueless and just put points into everything resulting in dudes with 700 hp using moonveil/bloodhound fang/rivers of blood and whatever else google told them was the "best most over powered weapon."

It's the level 800 summons that they bring along that you need to worry about.
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>laughs at you in discrete firewall configs
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>>725919831
>Ice rapier



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