Is the outrage over AI in COD justified in or its just reddit troons having a chimp out?
>>725923434Outrage over AI is always justified. It's a garbage tool that enables laziness.
it's bizarre that they used a default GPT style rather than something that would be harder to detect. Only retards care about COD and only trannies chimp out over AI.
>>725923434does the medieval images have anything to do with the near-future Black Ops game? Its so cringe
I hate indians and I hate ugly AI shit disturbing me while I am trying to jerk off.so yeah any outrage over AI is good.
>>725923434fuck call of duty.
>unironic chatGPT shit>not even a local model or anything inhouselmao what the fuckart gen is the easiest and least costy AIslop shit, why would you fucking pay chatGPT for this shit?
They choose to use ChatGPT on purpose to make AI artists and AI art look bad on purpose.Don't fall for it.
>>725923434They did literally the same in previous games, sloppy backgrounds with zombie Santa, sloppy pictures everywhere, etc
>>725924150>AI artists>look inside>15000 pictures>please buy, subscribe on my pareon
>>725924150I hate that ChatGPT is the only AI that can do OCR properly. Gemini/Grok/GLM/etc. just suck shit compared to GPT in recognizing letters and translating. Even actual OCR sites suck compared to GPT's
>>725923434Why does AI always give people these exaggerated expressions and jaundice piss colored skin?
>>725924232That's just slop, they don't actually care about making art, actual AI artists use local models and spend actual effort in their art.But people like you just have 0 idea how much skill goes into actually creating real AI art.>>725924303You know you can photoshop in correct text yourself right, literal non issue.
>>725924303why the fuck are you using LLMs for OCR
>>725924449OCR would be reading text, not writing it.
>>725923434I'm pretty neutral on AI usually, but the fact that they obviously used the Ghibli image thing for these is actually crazy to me.
>>725923434lmao why did they do bright cheery medieval fantasy? this is pure trolling>>725924150it has to be, its deranged.
>>725923434this is fake retards
>>725923434It's reddit having a chimpout. AI is infinitely more soulful than anything activision could ever produce.
>>725923434It's theft. Above being ugly or whatever this is the #1 problem>dude, it's just taking inspiration, it's no different from a human brain!No, it's scraping millions of artworks and images it has no rights to to. It's a program.
>>725924358because people generated so many ghibli images that they basically became a stain in the image pool AI is trying to take samples fromAI is basically becoming ouroboros eating itself
>>725924358it's the AI self-cannibalising itself from the millions of "generate ___ ghibli style" prompts it shit into the world
>>725923434Call of Duty sucks and has always sucked. Hating them for any reason is always right. I don't think the AI hate is useful but hating Call of Duty is very good.
>>725927961is that even remotely true?
>shits on a plate>SAAAAAR I AM REAL CHEF MY CULINARY ARTWORKS ARE JUST AS SOULFUL AS WHAT OTHER CHEFS MAKE
I genuinely hope all forms of generative AI die and get buried forever
>anti ai jews have to use ai to make something to get upset about
>>725923434No one is outraged.
>>725928041Pretty much, AI generated stuff ends up fed back into itself
>>725928041No but it's fucking hilarious how many people believe it. It's like seeing a desperate religion unfold before your very eyes.
>>725923434I'm wondering about the fantasy stuff. Isn't CoD a modern/futuristic game?
>>725928041Pretty much yeah
>>725923434It's disrespectful to players to shove AI-generated slop at them and expect them to pay for it/engage with it. "Disgust" describes it better than "outrage".> reddit troonsLeftists are right about AI, but not usually for the right reasons
>>725923434It is reddit troons, their favorite furry patreon artist telling them to chimpout because xhe will have no job soon
>>725923434I think it's cool and hilarious
>>725929820I've seen you post some variation of this post so many times in the last few days I'm starting to wonder if someone's paying you
>>725923434>reddit troonsyou can’t just slap two buzzwords together and assume it makes people want lazy AI dogshit in their games
>>725923434The quality of work is indistiguishable from trolling.
>>725923434it looks like ass
As an alpha coomer, AIslop looks ugly and I'm tired of third worlders spamming this shit everywhere trying to pass it off as art.No I don't care about what loras you used, how much inpainting you did or the post processing you did in photoshop, kill yourself, it's all fucking ugly dogshit that you can't get off to.
>>725930659>"alpha coomer" crying about pornthere there
>>725927828>No, it's scraping millions of artworks and images it has no rights to to. It's a program.Can you please explain how this is any worse than the endless derivativeness shamelessly ripping off preceding works that the human employees of the video game industry and other entertainment industries have engaged in for decades.I'm not saying you're wrong about what these AI tools are doing, I'm just wondering why so many people like you weren't saying shit when it was people doing it without AI.
Yes the outrage is justified. Not for using AI, but for using it so badly and in the most obvious and cuntish way possible.
>>725924150>AI "artist"going up to a coca-cola vending machine and pressing a button is not artistry, and the coke can it shits out is not art. do aijeet proompters really call themselves artists? hahah
>>725930094there's indeed an incentive for soulless corpoa to try and psyop people into accepting sloppa so the number can continue going up
>>725931168There are even people who call themselves "photography artists" haha. Can you imagine calling yourself an artist when all you do is press a button?
>>725924150>AIjeets seething over getting exactly what they asked for
>>725923434Justified. Also the art is blatant, who knows how much they actually used it.
>>725931381Don't they just call themselves photographersBut capturing and framing real life requires more skill and is still more creatively valid than commissioning an AI to generate shit for you
>>725931603It's surreal that people actually believe this.
>>725923434>Buried under a mountain of criticisms and complaints>Point to the most insignificant, nitpicky one and pretend that is the one and only thing people are complaining about so that they seem ridiculous and pettyIs there a name for this fallacy? It's like how all criticisms of DmC were morphed into "you're just upset about Dante's hair not being white, what a loser!"
>>725923434>>725927770>>725929820obvious shills are obvious
>>725931830>Is there a name for this fallacy?red herring
>>725931830It's their latest script, there's definitely a concerted effort to shill AI
>>725931830red herring works as another suggested, but it also gets referred to as fallacy of selective attention or simply as logic chopping
>>725931719You don't own the real world so you don't own a photo
>>725923434Yes, a giant corpo such as activision raking billions shitting out yearly rehashes caught using consumer grade basic AI slop is a problem, you fucking retard.
>>725928080Not gonna happencope and seethe
>>725928080we know troony :Ddon't stop crying every day lest we stop laughing at you
>low IQ: ai good because porn>midwit: AI BAD BECAUSE MUH ART THEFT MUH JOBS MUH COMMISIONED FURFAG AUTISM PORN>genius (me) IQ: ai is gay and lame and just another piece of poorly coded jeetshit (but its good for porn)
>>725933924AI gen is only good for porn unironically. still 0 use case for serious stuff apart from using it as sketches or testing an idea.
>>725933729>words words wordsleftists can't meme
>>725923434>they used the ghibli modelThere's some issues there by itself beside the massive cringe.
Why is there no video or an uncropped screenshot of someone flipping through these calling cards. Or did a single twitter user successfully bait thousands with his own AI slop?
>>725933729>defending aislop>implying lmm slop is coolJeety saar, du nidfull du nut ridimfullel.
>>725923434why isn't studio ghibli suing the shit out of them? I thought miyazaki hates this shit with every fibre of his being
>>725933497>Not gonna happenThats objectively bad thing.
>>725934259cope>>725934418>Thats objectively bad thing.IT isn't thoughyou don't have to use AI or view AI content if you dont want to
>>725933729programmers are the ones getting automated, not artists
>>725924150>AI artistsNo such thing, lmm jeet.And you and your shit looks bad by default without any purrpose.
>>725934373Intellectual property isn't realGrow up
>>725934461>i am silly strawman
>>725934565Where's the strawman?
>>725934373Good question
>>725934461Go generate me a valid reason why should i give fuck about your thoughts and feelings, poopshit.
>>725928345wrong reply, bro?
>>725923434It's not about AI.I am sure tons of company used it and people simple didn't notice cus they used it correctly.The issue is Activision used AI in the slopest most cheapest way possible.Like 5 years old starting using paint.That's the issue. If they used good AI, 99% people wouldn't even notice.
>>725934461Chris-chan art has soulEverything else is just you deliberately misunderstanding the concept
>>725923434All troonrage over AI is reddit troons having a meltie
>>725934373This may lead into a lawsuit, before they definitely didn't like it but people weren't using the images in sold products or anything. Now it's being used in a paid product so they may have a case.
>>725931603>But capturing and framing real life requires more skill and is still more creatively valid than commissioning an AI to generate shit for youBut it is still lazy compared to actually painting the motive yourself.
Activision is definitely using AI to troll everybody. Or, I guess, the only other explanation is that they hired a bunch of pajeets who don't know the difference between 'fantasy RPG' and 'military FPS' tags when they were genning those cheevo banners.
>>725934461taping banana to wa wall is way more aryan and creative than anything ai can come up with
>>725934461Go back to bharatchan, filthy shitskin.
>>725923434Does it look like utter shit?Yes? Then you should be outraged that a massive company selling you a premium priced AAA game decided to cheap out in order to make the game objectively worse.
>>725934636cry about it>>725934704>conceptwhat concept?soul is a made up nonsense term, it's completely subjectiveIt's funny how anti-AI fags constantly confuse AI art with real art lol
>>725934791wouldn't reddit and troons be pro ai? Anti-work, Anti-Natalist, anti-science, reddit cat owners? This seems right up their alley>le hekkin chungeringo ghibli pro india
>>725934908>>725934853The absolute seethe from leftoids over AI makes me so happy.The best thing about it is AI improves constantly so they're going to get even MORE mad kek
>>725923434When you charge $70 for a game that has clear signs of corner cutting, then yes. Any game that uses AI should have its price significantly lowered.Buying a full price game only to find the devs cut corners with AI is tantamount to buying a full price house and discovering its made out of Chinese cardboard bricks.
>>725923434AI outrage is gay, BUT this particular AI looks like shit and is a (deserved) slap on the face of CoD players
>>725923434Both. Saying it is stupid and lazy is correct but chimping out over it is also stupid.
>>725934645Nope. They're so desperate to believe in nonsense to make themselves feel better.
>>725923434We need to be better sloppers
>>725934663>The issue is Activision used AI in the slopest most cheapest way possible.This isn't even an issue lol, no one actually cares about this. It's just funny but what's funnier is how much people sperg out about it.
>>725935114>what concept?>soul is a made up nonsense termIt probably does seem that way if you don't comprehend it
>>725934704the absolute state
>>725923434it's no different from a newspaper in the 1910s using photographs instead of illustrations.artists who're afraid of losing their security are having a meltdown and the general public tends to sympathize with them since it's a scary new change, but eventually more and more games will do it until nobody raises an eyebrow anymore, not even artists.
AI is bad because it represents an erosion of creativity and talent, and is a symptom of advanced slopification. Normalising it and accepting it is inviting a trojan horse in to the things you are passionate about.If you only like it for political reasons (i.e "MUH LEFTIES", then you are the frog in boiling water.
>>725935631>2deep4uYou're a pseud.
>>725935670ai doomers literally unironically think nobody is going to create real art anymore since AI slop existsthey're mentally ill
>>725934473Not true.https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/artists-are-losing-work-wages-and>>725935187In today's online world, there is large overlap between the mentally ill and people who draw and AI draws better than them so they hate it. Logically, yeah they should like it because it's democratizing art which is morally good(eg letting cripples make art) and because it's paving a road to total corporate destruction, but trannies and the left at large aren't logical.
>>725935636>and the general public tends to sympathize with themI haven't seen this at all. The general public at least where I'm from can logically understand that it's a useful technology and that automation is a natural occurence. And when they see how the artists are acting and lose any sympathy they might've had.
>>725936053>>725935906Now you are simply making shit up.
>>725935670>YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PASSIONATELY CREATE ART USING AI>THAT TOOL BAD>IF YOU USE AI YOU ARE NOT CREATIVE
>>725923434Justified but not because it's AI, it's because it's not even curated AI. It's the laziest form of AI imaginable, it's literal Ghibli stolen art generation slop to the point Ghibli has grounds to sue.
>>725936137I'm being honest.
>ai art exists>suddenly /v/ is full of humanitarians
>>725936259The overall sentiment is extremely negative. The art sector literally treats it as something that's completely worthless.
>>725936053If you live in /v/ land I guessThe average opinion is more along the lines of "AI is not good but we are just going to have to live with it now"
>>725935906>https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/artists-are-losing-work-wages-andLiterally luddite COMMIE blog.Imagine being a fucking LUDDITE in 2025.Holy fuck lmaoLiterally against human technological progress because it's le scary.>OH NO FACTORIES ARE TAKING MY JOB, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO BARE SUBSISTIANCEYou people are enemies of humanity.
>>725935906>letting cripples make artI mean, they still could have drawn with their feet or mouth if they really wanted to. I'm finding it hard to imagine a type of person who may have the desire to produce art but absolutely no capacity to actually make it.The barrier for entering art isn't even that high.
>>725936318Not all of them do, there are plenty of famous artists that support it despite the risks in doing so since there are so many that are assblasted about it. People who make film for instance seem to like it whereas people who are hired by them hate it. The negativity is overwhelmingly just fear of being replaced, it's a modern luddite movement.>>725936516I'm talking about people outside in the real world, not about people online.>"AI is not good but we are just going to have to live with it now"Yeah you're just lying. Most people are absolutely amazed by it if they can even recognize it.>>725936565It's surreal to see since we have access to the internet and can see so many examples of it being an impossible battle to win.
>>725930831>Can you please explain how this is any worse than the endless derivativeness shamelessly ripping off preceding works that the human employees of the video game industry and other entertainment industries have engaged in for decades.not that anon. imo it's a little worse because using pre-cooked AI models makes things look even more similar to each other (i.e more derivative) & they're even more effortless than the most effortless of activities, like tracing. you're right that they're both a plague in the industry but it's good that people are waking up to it now.
>>725936659>just spread your toe jam and saliva all over your canvasYou're a piece of shit for suggesting this, even putting aside some cripples can't use their feet or mouth.>The barrier for entering art isn't even that high.And it's a billion times lower now which is a good thing.
>>725936785It's not in any way worse. Shit art has been around in video games forever. You just don't talk about it because it's fucking irrelevant.Now that it's made with Ai which makes retards sperg out, we're talking about it. This completely irrelevant nothing. Literal stock art.
It's retardation. The same as if you got mad people use machines for labor instead of just shovels.
Every complaint about AI that I've seen is some problem that existed well before modern AI.
>>725937074They do that too.
>>725936887It's actually a breath of fresh air for cowadooty to have cute illustrations. Retards mad for no reason.
>>725923434>AI supposed to make things cheaper>budget for this garbage is $5 billion dollarsBig Black Oops
>>725937278>corporations don't lower their prices when they save money like they never have>AI did this
>>725923434Yes considering how much money they have.
>>725936790I never said that, I was thinking more that they would just be holding the drawing implement between their toes or in their mouth. >just spread your toe jam and saliva all over your canvasWhat's even wrong with doing it that way?
>>725937074Drawing isn't labor. Art fags need to seriously get over themselves
>>725923434>Slop eaters surprised their slop is made in the slop machine.cute
>>725937458yeah bro they just put the pencil/brush beside the canvas, tell it what to do and fuck off until the job's done... oh, wait, lmao
>>725923434Nah it's gay. It's not worth screaming about, but it's worth calling it gay. And not because of cringey reddit moralfag reasons, but because it looks really gay and shitty.
>>725937359Some people have dignity. Is that a foreign concept to you?
>>725937547The fact remains they need to get over themselves, their emotional attachment to the process and the edifice of being a le artiste
>zoomer laughs at his own future getting obliterated>thinks its based because the artists in his head are suffering o algoFunny.
>>725937752>laughs at his own future getting obliteratedElaborate.
>>725937547If that's all it takes now that we have AI how can you argue they're worth hiring?>>725937752What's funny is that you think the people that are cheering for AI are zoomers.
>>725937583Perceptions on what's dignified or not are purely subjective. Some people would even say using AI to make art is undignified, so what?
>>725937867Look at the sectors that AI is going to automatize. The only one that you can count as a win for humans is the transportation industry.
>noooo I don't want a star trek holodeck put me back in the manjaw timeline AHHHH
>>725937334>reddit level comprehension
>>725938226Yes that's what you have, a reddit retard jumps at any chance to go "ackchually" instead of trying to understand and engaging productively. The point remains they have no sense of constraint to exercise whether it is prices or budget, with AI or without.
>>725938036Explain further, so far you just sound like you're being overly dramatic about something you don't understand.
>>725937993Well this conversation went in a stupid direction but>I'm crippled and my art has toe jam and drool on it>I'm crippled and I'm using innovative new technology made by people who released it for free so everyone would be uplifted, it also allows me to speak and play video gamesSubjectivity exists but so does logical reasoning and the truth. The simple fact of numbers proves using AI for art is more dignified than using your toes too.
>>725923434What the fuck... The image is not an edit joke? Are they actually using an AI generated Ghibli anime style for their "military" game?
>>725927828>No, it's scraping millions of artworks and images it has no rights to to. It's a program.Except it does since it's transformative in essence. A human doing that same thing doesn't get lamented, even though scraping art has been a thing done for centuries.IF you're profiting off of actual copyright violation, then that's another matter; but, in reality, it's just tantrums about technology.
>>725935710It's not deep. It's something that's perfectly understood by geniuses and retards alikeIt's only midwits that seem to have trouble with itPerhaps you're just lacking a chromosome or something
>>725938661>>725927828
>>725923434AIjeets will say it's totally fine, it's the outrage that is unjustifiedEveryone else disagrees
>>725937608>emotional attachment to the processBeing "attached" to the process is called understanding its role.If you can't see the purpose of it you will never be able to create art, with AI or otherwise.
>>725923434>accusing those of not liking ai to be troons or redditHello Saars.
>>725938854You are babbling about nothing, shut the fuck up.
>>725938854The problem is they're "attached" to A process. There are other ways, like using AI, but that triggers them.
>>725938838AIjeets are seething that the corner cutting machine resulted in corpos cutting corners, instead of hiring them for their 1girl, masterpiece, best quality, absurdres, big boobs, hands behind back skills
>>725924449>But people like you just have 0 idea how much skill goes into actually creating real AI art.I do, it took me one day to get good at this. You forget that being artist is not only know how to put lines on paper but also lot of knowledge abouthow things work, without that you rely only on basic first glance visual aspect that was spitted from database model pool.
>>725924150this. its another tranny false flag, only its backfiring because no one really cares
>>725923434>ghibli gpt filter>medieval gens for a game about modern warfareThis just screams lazy and uncaring dev. Honestly, those 6 gens might have taken like 10 minutes in total. Like they just grabbed the first one without any major defects. Was this done by a high school intern?
>>725938947>You are babbling about nothing, shut the fuck up.Proving my point.>>725938956>There are other ways, like using AIThat's not a process. It skips the process.
It just seems like grandpa yelling at a cloud for no reason. Tech has always gotten better. Why cry and scream about it?
>>725923542fpbp
>>725939270>using something to do something isn't a processYou're proving my point, though you're more than "attached", you're so narrow minded about it that you've become psychotic.
>>725923434AI gives power back to the people. Lefties should support it in theory, but in practice it redistributes power away from them (and that's a bad thing).Only retards like pizza cake should be making political cartoons, according to them.
>>725939368kek you don't even have the slightest understanding of artistic processes
>>725938494>Subjectivity exists but so does logical reasoning and the truthYou've provided neither of those though. You argument is that using other appendages is bad because they might be dirty and that's somehow undignified. Purely subjective. These people may just not care, or if they do they can just, like, clean their feet if they felt it would've gotten in the way.
>>725923576They wanted retards to see it and get mad. It's free advertising.
>>725927961>AI is basically becoming ouroboros eating itselfLefties have been saying this for years, and they'll keep saying it for decades. Any day now, amirite sisters?
>>725939616Ironic.>trust me, I'm psychotic and don't even like art>>725939826If you can't imagine the consensus on what dignified ways of making art are I don't know what to say. It's pitiable to make art as a cripple using "other appendages", not dignified. Anyone being honest was praying for technology to help those kinds of people out, and then AI came out and a chunk of those people lost their minds.
3 years ago, a game studio wouldn't be caught dead releasing a game with visuals that ugly. It doesn't get a pass now just because an AI made it. If you can successfully trick me into not realizing something is AI, then good on you, I have no reason to be outraged. But there is no excuse to release a 70 dollar product (plus battle passes of course) and still try to cut corners so tight that your assets look like THIS. Its offensive.
>>725934373He changed his mind.
>>725928041Yes. These AI models have gobbled up a ton of data, possibly data on the net, as a result its also gobbling up data by other AI models, incorrect data.AI models for the public are a colossal fucking disaster.
>>725923434>this game cost $700 million to make and it uses Grok AI for the calling cardsthis has to be a money laundering scheme at this point for microsoft alongside tax evasion
I pay for AI games with AI money
>>725940279Why does this image have more soul than every Ghibli slop film? Because AI allows oppressed peoples like disabled individuals access to art creation, giving it a beautiful soul.
>>725923685But AI has been giving me the best jack off material, in written form. I can't jack off to AI pics, there's always something a bit off about them.
>>725940723Just find an ERP buddy or some shit
Imagine paying $70 for something that uses AI lol. Like they're using something for free that YOU could use and then making you pay for it lol lmao even
>>725923434they used the fucking ghibli aithey deserved mockery
>>725940814I don't like sharing my fetishes with a real human bean and forcing them to write said fetishes exactly the way I want it.
>>725940565>money laundering schemeVideo games would never be used as a money laundering scheme, that'd just be ridiculous!
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/j-p-morgan-calls-ai-204449468.htmlAI is a problem that will solve itself.
>>725940971jews are terrified of ai. things we already knew.
>>725940814Statistically most people who use AI ERP use it for guro rape or pedophelia according to the providers, that's difficult to do with people.
>>725923434COD has been the embodiment of slop for decades so it's entirely unjustified.
>>725938464aiyys taking over all creative fields, gen alpha will only have manual labor in the future like medieval serfs they are to become (cos they won't own any land)>overly dramaticdon't fucking downplay it, turd muncher
>>725923673That's what I was trying to figure out. I couldn't find any mention of medieval stuff appearing in the game, stuff about giant plants and zombie dinosaurs sure, but nothing about a medieval setting or theming.
>>725923434Sheeps always chimp out in herds. There's indies that use AI and nobody gives a shit. It needs to be a studio that is "safe to hate" for them to say anything.
>>725941321>indies that use AI and nobody gives a shitthat's because nobody plays ai indie shit
>>725941253We won't even have manual labor in the future with immigrant niggers taking those jobs.
>>725941321Which indies use AI rn
>>725941386Nah there's people who do. And in their little Discord groups they go on about how evil big corpo is for using AI while it's ok for their game to use it.
>>725928041It's a little more complicated than that, but basically yes it can be fed back into it, but the way a lot of AI image generation works is that there is a base model underneath whatever you're introducing and the damage the newly inserted AI images can do is minimal. It'd definitely make it worse if all the new images had fucked up nonsense ears, but the base model knows what an ear looks like. I'm not sure if that's the case for ChatGPT though, but because Studio Ghibli is built into it when other things are not then it's most likely got a base model there and isn't just pulling everything from the internet on the fly.
>why are you so upset that less and less effort and talent is being spent on videogames?Listen to yourself
>>725941253>gen alpha will only have manual labor in the future like medieval serfsLmaoAutomation means prices come down like 90%, meaning effective/real wages go up a lot.Gen alpha will probably only have to work one day a weekYou bootlickers are fucking patheticWhy do you enjoy working so much?
>>725941567but we're OWNING the artlibs bro!!>>725941613>prices come down>wages go uplollmaokekwwwwwwwww even
>>725941613>Automation means prices come down like 90%,>he thinks corpo scum are gonna lower the prices instead of pocketing the excess lollmao even
If you are not indifferent to AI then you are a redditor.
>>725940025>can't make a coherent argument so just throws shit at the wall like every other AI-fag seems to
>>725940683You're trying too hard
>>725941567consult picrel
>>725941732I just don't like google being filled to the brim with slop results, but it's balanced by the porn being some of the best I've ever seen.
>>725923542> garbage tool that enables laziness.do you think you would have felt the same way towards photoshop emerging in the 90s
>>725941702So if you increased the supply of goods people buy by 1000% using 5% of the labor inputs, you don't think this would result in massively lower prices?Lmao this is basic supply and demandYou're fucking retarded>>725941725They are forced to compete with other firms on price so yes prices will come down.Read a book
>>725941613>only have to work one day a weekthere was that economist dude don't remember his namehe thought we were going to work three days a week by the year 2000
>>725931168i feel the same way about digital """"artists""""" who use computers and tablets to make """"""art""""""
>>725941759Anti-AI fags are animalistic luddites.They never had a rational argument and their ideas make humanity suffer.
>>725941994>he thought we were going to work three days a week by the year 2000Unfortunately this isn't happening because governments print endless amounts of money, devaluing wages and savings while the price of houses and stocks get inflated to insane levels
>>725940336>>725941537actual retards
>>725942024>ludditeHow many posts have you made on this topic in the last five days, shill?I'm sure you are keeping track for your invoice, so why don't you share the number with us?
>>725941825it's true tho ur mad art creation is being democratized. enjoy competing with us idea people
>>725923434>AI will cut costs and end up looking better than human art!>game uses AI>costs $80>looks like shit anyway
>>725942136>no argumentYou are a humanity hating luddite and retarded
AI wonIndians wonThe credits say that the people who generated these images in OP's pic is from Bharat, not a single white person KEK
>>725942134Excuse me, but how do you think it works?
>>725941920and why would technofeudal lords want to increase the supply of goods? overproduction is bad for the environment, climate change and all that
>>725939972anon it's literally already happened. It's why even non-Ghibli images have the piss filter.
>>725923434using AIgen in creative media is objectively embarrassing
>>725942202He won't reply since he is a retard just saying shit to make himself feel smart
>>725941994He wasn't wrong in his logic he just wasn't jew pilled
>>725942185>cut costsIt did, the execs and shareholders got a fatter bonus this year from all the workers they laid off.
>>725939616If you did you'd understand they don't start and end with drawing. If you think the AI process trivializes artmaking you haven't aimed high enough. Make a whole comic. You'll find it's not as easy as hitting a button and you still have to do the same writing, editing and panel thumbnailing as if you were using no AI and getting the AI to generate your art will be a labor that requires facing the same artistic choices and auteur spirit. You may find yourself doing things like generating characters and backgrounds separately and editing them together. In fact here's an exercise that will make you a better working artist than art school graduates, download a PDF of Framed Ink and do an AI panel or page that demonstrates every technique and concept in the book. You will learn how to be an artist way quicker because you don't have to waste all your time drawing and rendering like they do.
>>725942218>and why would technofeudal lords want to increase the supply of goods?Because they can make more profit? Lol>overproduction is bad for the environmentEat shit and die. I care about human suffering more than the environment.Also we can still protect the environment to an extent while increasing production.Why do you bootlickers want to WORK for the rest of your lives?
>>725923434I am an AI artist and you will respect my choices, chud
>>725942024the Luddites were right then and right now
>>725942398Based actually lol
>>725942362Post your AI comic
>>725942369increasing supply doesn't increase their profit, retard
>>725942436>the people that wanted us to work 80 hour work weeks until we fucking died were rightKill yourself
So when the speculation economy inevitably starts to wane, what will you guys do with your stocks?
>>725942398He is right that art is a term that means fuck all and is purely subjective, people crying that something isn't art are literal retards.
>>725942436And yet you don't spin your own thread and weave your own clothes, curious.
>>725942369Why is it whenever there's an oversupply they actually start destroying their products?
>>725942524Yes it literally does because they can lower prices and take market share away from their competitors.
>>725942218>and why would technofeudal lords want to increase the supply of goods?you're so obsessed with elonyou realize there are billions of other people who will be using robots right
>>725942574If everything is art nothing is
>>725942187>humanity hatingSays the faggot who wants it replaced by AI and drained of every last drop of its dignity
my fart is art actually, any billionaire want to spend a milly on it?
>>725942369i live in a country which has an oversupply of apartments yet nobody buys them because they are too expensive and an average salary won't cover the mortgagestop baiting already, k?
>>725942587This is extremely rare and usually due to government intervention of some kind, food is a big example of this.Also typically if a business produced too much they will lower prices to liquidate inventory quickly.
>>725942293>there are millions of AI image models>one of them is yellow if you don't tell it not to be>AI is DOOMEDit's like asmonbald says, you can't reason with a person who isn't reasonable
>>725942552doesnt matter if some crash society will already have been irrevocably altered.
>>725940246this
>>725937278probably because it costs more to sit there and fix every fuck up AI does than it would have if you just didn't use AI lmao
>>725942362>If you did you'd understand they don't start and end with drawingFucking obviouslyBut there are processes within the actual drawing that are actually incredibly importantYou're only thinking of the obvious aspects and missing all the smaller ones, because you don't understand
>>725942552i will sell when shit looks like its gonna hit the fan as usual
>>725942451https://exhentai.org/g/3486220/df8ba00e9c/
>>725942529increasing automation only benefits the owner class
>>725942686>muh dignityYeah it's sure "dignified" having to wageslave your entire life instead of having a robot do shit for youIdiot bootlicker>>725942691>I literally made shit upYou live in Japan or something?Because they have an actual overabundance of apartments and that's why rent is so cheap there
>>725923434>AI is supposed to cut development costs by a lot>Game uses AI>It's still $80?????????
>>725942625So deep
>>725942837based
>>725942837This is pure garbage and a mockery of the artists work lolAI user coulnd't even make his own comic to animate because he knew no one would care
>>725942843LMAOHAHAHA Holy shitHow do lower prices for the goods and services workers buy not benefit them?The entire reason our living standards are so much more higher now than the 1800s is due to automation and increases in production.
>>725923542>dude fuck the "automobile", its going to put talented horse and carriage operators out of work and enable lazinessthis is how retarded you sound btw. ai is an amazing tool and technological advancement soon to be on par with the wheel
>>725942875no, i live somewhere else and rent here takes if not half but 1/3 of the median monthly income
>>725942843ok you can hog all the manual labor to yourself then. go ahead no one will stop you.
>>725942843You people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
>>725942990how does mass unemployment benefit the worker? How do lower wages benefit the worker?
>>725941994i'm on a 4 day work week now, tues through fri and still get my normal salaryfeels good
AI for workflow automation is coolAnyone using AI art for commercial purposes should be killed
>>725942875>implying you'll be freed from the wageslaving and have robots do shit for youit'll either be you'll take the mark of the beast (forfeiting your soul) or you'll be wageslaving to keep the robots operating>inb4 h-heh, the choice is ez ;)have fun with selling your soul for a few years of false convenience after which you won't even be given the privilage of dying I guess
>>725923434Cod is trash and only worthless retards work on the series so it doesn't matter. The only justification is that other game companies might start doing it but they haven't.
>>725942828>But there are processes within the actual drawing that are actually incredibly importantthey aren't important
>>725943082By making them not workers which should be the goal of humanity.
>>725943051Because there isn't enough apartments and you keep reading lies and propaganda that claims the oppositeThen you're going to support policies that make the problem worse because you're subhuman
>>725943084good for you but i won't be able to complete all my tasks in four days (i sometimes work on weekends)
>>725943063>the solution every tech billionaire puts forward as the solution to AI encroaching on white collar work is "join the trades"they are literally TELLING YOU what the plan is for everyone who isn't already in the billionaire class and you're still shucking and jiving for them like a nigger for a slice of watermelon
>>725942837bouncy boobs
>>725923434This use for AI is fine if they at least tried to make it unique instead of using the default GPT style. AI art is acceptable for shit like in game thumbnails and tiny icons imo. Who really cares about that, and it’s gonna get compressed so hard it won’t matter
>>725942960https://exhentai.org/g/3589919/4c78c31513/
>>725943084Is your company hiring a uhhhhhhh coffee maker?
>>725941613Please. Car industry has been tremendously automated since the 70s and cars only got more expensive and shittier.
>>725942843>literal drooling retard
Why is so much people ITT seething over AIshit thinking it'll rape them or something? There'll always be people who prefer drawings over genned Images. The only people who are being 'replaced' by this are people who draw FOTM reddit garbage porn memes to post on xitter. Go pay your favorite drawfag instead of complaining if you're afraid of them going homeless and acking themselves
>>725943283Just a bunch of garbage nonsensical melting illustrations that can't be called a comic
I for one welcome our AI overlords
>>725942828Maybe that is how they happen or happened for you but that need not be the case for everyone.
>>725943302the place i live in also have a special tax on all imported vehicles making them two or three times more expensive than what global market offers
>>725923434This looks so horrendous and out of place I can only assume it's some sort of malicious compliance on the part of the art team. >You want us to use AI? Fine, here, I asked Grok to generate some images and picked the first one.
>>725943385
>>725943385Now let's see AI try to animate it
why people crying over aithere's nothing we can do about it anyways kektop brass of the world already accelerated it past the point of no returnjust sit back and enjoy the show
>>725942903AI pictures don't cut costs much at all.
I don't think we should accept AI being used this way, profiting off of others labor without compensating them is not acceptable. Outside of the obvious over investment in AI, we can't be far away from the first huge high profile lawsuit or PHI getting leaked due to retards using these tools at their jobsThe reckoning will come
>>725943527They want a cope for why the world is shit but can't bring themselves to be racist.
>>725943586They probably do if they hire a jeet to prompt instead of american to do them
>>725943082>how does mass unemployment benefit the worker?Workers need to be let go from unproductive jobs and then gain employment in productive jobs.Keeping them in the less productive jobs is inefficient and prevents the economy from progressing.>How do lower wages benefit the worker?There will be much higher real wages because prices for goods and services will radically decrease due to automation.>>725943093>it'll either be you'll take the mark of the beast (forfeiting your soul) or you'll be wageslaving to keep the robots operatingHow? lolIf prices for the shit I buy goes down to 10% of what it used to be. I would only need to work one day a week.>have fun with selling your soul for a few years of false convenienceLOL Okay bro, enjoy wageslaving I guess.>after which you won't even be given the privilage of dying I guessWhy? Is the terminator real? You really think it's going to turn into skynet?Grow up>>725943302>Please. Car industry has been tremendously automated since the 70s and cars only got more expensive and shittier.Due to dumb car regulations, also central bank money printing(which YOU fucking support anyway you moron)
>>725943586What do you mean? You're cutting at least one artist, that's a whole salary or hourly pay you no longer have to lose money from.
>>725943662Why wouldn't they continue hiring immigrants?
>>725943626Intellectual property isn't real.Grow up.
>>725943632ai is pretty racist when it isnt suuuuuper wrangled. theres a reason certain groups dont want everyone else to have access.
>>725943384>Favorited: 417 timespost your comichttps://exhentai.org/g/3634190/36b57c5622/https://exhentai.org/g/3632786/89f5e7d9e4/https://exhentai.org/g/3625395/735708d15b/https://exhentai.org/g/3622762/f19881ce15/https://exhentai.org/g/3622113/4966764033/
>>725943586Bro this was literally generated by some suit or intern using Grok it cost ZERO dollars
>>725943774Because automation is cheaper in the long run.
It's funny that stuff like Claude is obviously impressive, but it's being peddled by the same kinds of grifters, probably Indian, that tried to sell people on Blockchain shit. I want to reject it out of principle
>>725943807stop generating niggers
>>725943643They don't.>>725943726That's not a big cut and they still have a hired hand generating the art using AI.>>725943827And how much do you think they were spending on this kind of art before? Nothing, virtually nothing.
>>725923434It's more something to point and laugh at if you don't care about CoD because of how pathetic it is.
>>725943807I don't care what chinks are into. I simply asked you to post your AI-genned comic that you learned to create from Framed ink >>725942362but you just started posting other people's slop for some reason. I guess you were just talking shit with your original post
>>725943786Die commie You will be first against the wall when the AI bots turn on us and start raping us en masse
>>725943643I've been trying to explain this exact concept to some people in the last thread who genuinely think they'll get hired for prompting in the future>Ask for the minimum wage in their state so they can live comfortably>Get denied>Hires jeets instead to prompt since they can live off of pennies>OP's pic is the resultThe only time you'll get hired for prompting is if you have ties (nepotism), or if you are a extraordinary prompter which is most definitely not going to be the case.Tbh, I just prompt for fun and live off of NEETbux
>>725943893>hired handyeah from india costing 10k a year compared to 80k for the murrican lmaohe also replaced the lead programmer btw, so that's another 150k saved
>>725943998>Die commieIntellectual property is supported by communists.People who support free markets typically are anti-IP.You can't own ideas, you retard lol
>>725924449>actual AI artists use local models and spend actual effort in their art.horseshitkys thieving nigger
>>725943662>productive jobswhat are "productive jobs" and what keeps them safe from AI encroachment?>There will be much higher real wages because prices for goods and services will radically decrease due to automation.objectively, demonstrably false.
>>725944069I like how you think this is a lot of money. Stop being retarded.
>>725923434>modern CoDEven the sloppiest of the AIs would be the least of its problems.
>>725943527>why people crying over aiYou don’t see any issues with massive corporations receiving government money to illegally scrape and steal internet content to train LLMs and then using those models to marginalize or even fire the people whose work was taken without permission?
>>725943893if they're replacing having to make art commissions it's nothing, but if they cut the marketing staff that do illustrations entirely it's decent savings. the savings aren't wild though still, maybe a few million best case
>>725944173so can you paypal me 150k right now since it's not a lot of money for you?
>>725944125>Intellectual property is supported by communists.delusional retard makes another retarded statement
>>725943893A professional artist costs a decent salary. An intern typing prompts into Grok costs minimum wage or nothing. That's assuming they even hired someone specifically as a "prompt engineer" (lmao).
>>725944237Decent? You mean less than 1%?>>725944243>jeet immediately starts begging
Trillions of dollars invested and only shit like this and those awful commercials to show for it.
>>725944232They don't even seed when they pirate and torrent materials to scrape from, fucking heinous
>>725944125This is so observably false but I admire your bold and brave retardation What kinds of places have IP laws, do you want to list some of them? Maybe list some that don't too?
>>725944232at this point nothere's nothing nobody can do anywayswe've gone past the point of no returncrying over it will just make your eyes red and your voice hoarse
>>725944304The game cost hundreds of millions. Firing a professional artist is like the equivalent of the weight you lose clipping a fingernail or farting.
>>725944325it's the same fake trillion dollars being passed around between seven-ish companies
>>725923434It was all over Black Ops 6 too, hell they fucking used it for the obligatory Black History Month, Pride Month, etc cosmetics.AI use is shit but all the outrage is basically just performative faggotry because they know there's a shitload of people that make hating popular things their only personality trait so any negative news about Call of Duty is going to get clicks. The second people get bored of complaining about AI it'll be how they're getting their ass beat in the zero SBMM playlists.
>>725943001>this is how retarded you sound btw. The Blockchain is an amazing tool and technological advancement soon to be on par with the wheelThis is how retarded you sound btw
>>725943001>ai is an amazing tool and technological advancement soon to be on par with the wheelThis is how retarded YOU sound.Notice how I only had to quote you?
>>725944403you are delusionalyou seem to think you're immune
>>725944317yes, squeezing out 0.2% more revenue or w/e is decent and they'll pursue it if it does. ppl stil get fired
>>725944167>what are "productive jobs"Jobs that use more efficient production methods, less capital inputs, better tech etc.>and what keeps them safe from AI encroachment?They ARE they AI encroachment.I'm talking about a world where everything is 90% automated. People in such a society would barely have to work to get a great standard of living. If a company needed a human worker 5 days a week and people only needed to work 1 day a week, that's 5 job openings right there.>objectively, demonstrably false.Prove it then lol.You're arguing against the economic history of the past 200 years.As we gained more factories and they became more efficient, they were able to produce more goods using less labor inputs, this reduced prices and allowed different businesses to be created because the cost of capital goods also went down.>>725944284I'm not wrong. It's commies on twitter whining and claiming AI art is theft.Libertarians are anti-IP.>>725944370>What kinds of places have IP lawsIrrelevant point, we're talking about ideologies here, not countries.
>>725944232>to marginalizeplease just fuck off back to twitter you annoying tranny
>>725944510You think humanoid robots that automate most industry isn't revolutionary?Are you retarded?
>>725944565Surprised you haven't started talking about UBI yet lol
>>725944403Please just turn on your back and let them step on you over and over, I promise that's all you need to do.
>>725944547Okay but is your retard brain capable of remember what we were talking about? How is "0.2% more revenue" going to make the $80 price tag drop meaningfully?
>>725944565>It's commies on twitter whining and claiming AI art is theft.they want money, they're not communists, you're directly contradicting yourselfjesus christ, ai bros are so fucking stupidthat's why they need a roomba to hold their hand
>>725943137You don't understand them then. You are creating nothing.
>>725944565Do you think maybe countries laws are at least tangentially related to ideologies you fucking retard? But no, your subjective and nonsensical definition of commie makes a lot more sense.
>>725942960>This is pure garbageyou are fucking GAY
>>725944565>People in such a society would barely have to work to get a great standard of livingdelusionalyou live in dreamlandwake the fuck up liberal
>>725944712all i saw was "AI pictures dont cut costs". i thought u meant for the company not the game. it's not related to game price obviously
>>725944648NO U
>>725944648No? Most industries won't benefit from humanoid robots, if any. It's just adding pointless failure points to perform tasks that only need hands or arms.
>>725944648The fuck does that have to do with AI generated dogshit images in a video game?Explain to me how a text generator will provide us with this. (Neural networks are not the same as ChatGPT or Dall-E and have existed much longer)
>>725923434turns out the end of games wasn't DEI and woke trashit was the lazy ass clankerslop garbage
>>725943093Imagine having an IQ so low that this is the only future you can imagine.
>>725923434imagine being butthurt about the low-quality of Call of Dutylmao
>>725944565>Wanting money and ownership of your creation for the fruit of your labor is communistI don't even have anything to say except that if we were having this conversation in person I'd hold you down and drag my nuts across your face
AI is much more soulful than your cringe doodles
>>725943461>but that need not be the case for everyoneYes it need be. It simply is.Without the process, you are not creating art. You are asking someone else (or in this case, a thing) to make it for you.
>>725944663Why? I think UBI is fucking retarded.The massive decrease in prices for consumer goods will replace any need for UBI.Nobody talks about the price decreases, they literally think everything would stay the same lmao>>725944742>they want money, they're not communists>communists don't want moneylmao what about hasan piker then?>ai bros are so fucking stupidWe're right about everything tho>>725944787>Do you think maybe countries laws are at least tangentially related to ideologies you fucking retard?Yes, but it's still irrelevant because we're discussing what supporters of free markets support(they're against IP)We don't have countries with free markets nowadays>>725944808You have no argument leftoid. You're so brainwashed it's insane.You really think if prices dropped 90% people wouldn't have a better standard of living?
>>725944772I'm creating your tears as you cope at my AI art being better than yours
>>725944510>>725944538Who the fuck said anything about the block chain? That's not even AI. If you're pretending insane automation, learning machines, super advanced robots, etc aren't revolutionary you are being disingenuous or actually just retarded.
>>725944834So you didn't read the full post, or rather you're pretending you didn't read the full post as damage control.I won this argument and you are a retard.
>>725945014you are putting the cart way before the horse
>He thinks AI will manifest UBI into existence when reality is showing thats not the caseImagine how much NEETs in this thread will starve to death when the food stamps are actually cut off in the next 4 years
>>725944915vile
>>725944863>Most industries won't benefit from humanoid robotsHAHAHA You people are going to be in a world of hurt the next 10 years.Especially the shit coming from chinaYou're delusional.>>725944879I'm not even talking about that shit. I'm talking about the AI revolution in general.>>725944903>>Wanting money and ownership of your creation for the fruit of your labor is communistuh yeah dumbass, they literally want the workers to own the means of productiondo you even know what communism is?>>725945063How do you starve to death when robot automation reduces food prices by 90%?
why do reddit ones think they're revolutionaries or some shitlike if they bitch and moan on the internet they can actually change anythingits overyou lostadvancement won
>>725944648>Are you retarded?they really are
>>725944946>Nobody talks about the price decreasesright, because the real world as it actually functions has shown us that despite massively increased worker productivity, wages remain stagnant and prices have only increased.
>>725924150>AI artistsI hate you trannies so much.
>>725945058Which is a lot better than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You are an actual retarded if you are an AI hater because you see slop images being made.
>>725945124where am I getting the money to pay for the food that still apparently costs money if a robutt takes muh jerb?
>>725945146>and it will never change because I have no grasp on historyRead a fucking book.
>>725945124>You people>thinking he will be spared
>>725945146>despite massively increased worker productivity,Imagine unironically believing that propaganda.Productivity has not increased, the USA has lost most of it's industrial base. The only thing they export is printed dollars.Price decreases are happening, but it's happening in CHINA because they allow deflation.Moron.>prices have only increased.Then why the fuck do you retards support central banks and money printing?This is literally your fault.
>>725944949>desperately trying to convince himselfI'm sorry you spent years whining about not being able to make art instead of putting in the slightest amount of effort to learn, but you still aren't able toNot an artist by the way, but unlike you I'm not a delusional faggot pretending to be
>>725945063Okay shlomo, go back to bribing Donald instead of salivating over killing goyim
>>725945014Unfortunately none of that cool sci-fi stuff is going to come out of the latest techbro pump and dump scheme.
>>725945246oh it'll change alright. Just not the way you think it will. Now get in.
>>725945230They won't take all of the jobs.People would be working a lot less hours too, meaning the jobs that exist have more slots available.>>725945310>>thinking he will be sparedOh NO, how horrible, everything is cheaper and I work less!! AAHHH!!!!!
>>725945357Imagine being this mad over AI artists making great art
>>725945014Revolutionary? Yes. But good in a society that relies on everyone having something to do 8h a day 5 day a week?
>>725945063They're not capable of thinking that far aheadThey're utopian idealists who simply deny reality whenever it's inconvenientwhich is funny, because they spam "UR A LEFTIST" at anyone who doesn't share their delusions, when their way of thinking is actually extremely leftist in nature kek
>>725923434@grok call op a faggot
>>725945407Communism lost lmaoYou people will never drag humanity back to the dark ages ever again and I'm so happy.
>>725923434That's supposed to be from the latest Call of Duty? Wtf happened to this shit?
>>725944946>bringing up random pop culture faggots for no reason>We're right about everything thodelusional>You have no argument leftoid. You're so brainwashed it's insane.you're just repeating what's been said to youlike an AI chat botThis guy said prices will drop 90% because of AI while calling us "brainwashed"holy fucking kek, keep dreaming faggot
>there are people in this very thread stupid enough to believe LLMs will evolve into sentient thinking machines LMAOMAO
>>725945310>thinking he will be sparedNo anon, don't you see? He has positive thoughts about AI and isn't a luddite, so he's magically going to be fine when there are no jobs and no way to earn money and we're all owned by corporations even harder than we are alreadyAI is the reason we have this abysmal new captcha by the way
>>725945467you retards never actually have an argument against the things we are sayingWe have 200 years of economic history on our side, you have your feelings and fearmongering.>>725945539>>bringing up random pop culture faggots for no reasonIt's a counter example.>you're just repeating what's been said to youVERY few people believe what I believe.It's YOU doing that you doomer retard>This guy said prices will drop 90% because of AI while calling us "brainwashed"LMFAOYou REALLY fucking think if businesses automated their production by 90% using 90% less labor, and also had to compete with other firms doing the same, they wouldn't be forced to lower their prices to remain profitable?Holy fucking shit you're economically illiterate.
>>725945441Oh I see, you're just baitingNo more bites from me
>>725945467>>725945659>>725945539Artists are unemployed and we can prompt their art for free. Prices down 100%.
>>725945672>no jobsWhy do you brainlets think there will be no jobs?Human labor will still be necessary for a long time. It's just that people would have to work less hours.>and we're all owned by corporations >NOOOOOO THE EVIL CORPORATIONS ARE LOWERING PRICES BY 90% AAHHHH IM LITERALLY BEING RAPED RIGHT NOW
>>725945695>>725945765AI faggots just say "ur dumb" over and over againwhile telling us that prices will magically drop overnight and all our problems will instantly vanishit's insane how you're allowed to vote, we used to keep retards like you in special padded rooms
>>725945743How is that bait? I'm clearly right. Please attack that strawman of yours some more while I create art and laugh.
Do redditors really think they can make Call of Duty fail?
>>725945695Your entire argument is "no, bad things won't happen, AI will fix everything" with no supporting evidence whatsoeverIt's magical thinking
Why would I hire tranny artists when my automaton can do it? Now games will be cost effecient to produce and 40$ games will return
>>725945765This image is great, but why would I want to look at someone else's AI gens when I can gen my own?
>>725945765>I madeAlready false in the first panel.
>>725945831This you? AI has already lowered the costs of things drastically.
>>725924150>AI artistlol lmaoany fag can gen halfway decent slop, and comfyui is just a meme
>>725945831>AI faggots just say "ur dumb" over and over againExcept this is what you people are doing while we are appealing to economic history and presenting thought experiments.You okay, RETARD?>magically drop overnightIt's not magic and it won't happen overnight.Increasing the efficiency of production resulting in a drop in prices is literally basic economics and has happened for EVER>it's insane how you're allowed to voteLuddites should be locked in cages and given a small amount of food and water each day
>>725945124>Means of production What relevance does this have to producing art though
>>725945927such as?
>>725945847nta but you're also illiterate in general apparently.
>>725945765Holy fuck it's a time portal to when people thought AI art was interesting. Now it's like talking to people about your dreams. Nobody, not even your closest friends, gives a shit that you made an AI crudely create a character vaguely resembling Goku armwrestling a character vaguely resembling Spongebob. Why would they? They're as free to do exactly the same.
>>725945927>thingsprovides no evidence, examples or even a single successful investment to back it upyou just say "things" and hope that we magically imagine something cheaper in our head
>>725945856Because with AI we enter a market of ideas. If their idea is better, you'll buy it. The most powerful creatives that werent able to make their art reality before due to lacking skills can now dominate, like me
>>725945847>"no, bad things won't happen, AI will fix everything"So basically you can only argue in strawmen because you're losing the debate. Got it.>with no supporting evidenceExcept economic history and thought experiments.The original luddites were dead wrong.What makes you think you're going to be right this time?
>>725945993>>725946045>he can't even recall 2 posts agoWhat the fuck is wrong with you?
>>725945927Of fucking what nigger?Sure as hell not electricity and, computer components and their materialsTo stay on topics videogames neither.Does blops7 cost less since they saved money by using ai generated illustrations?
>>725945961please show me a single example of anything you've been yammering aboutit's pathetic watching you losers lick boots for hours with no proof whatsoever
>>725946132It made the thing in my head cheaper
>>725946045Not him, but for example the price of food has come down ginormous over the past 100 years due to more efficient tractors, better fertilizer, better pesticides etc.You're literally saying more efficient machinery(AI robots) wouldn't reduce prices, because UHHHH MAGIC!!!!
>>725946038
>>725946121I see no proof, continue replying with rage and proving me right
>>725946074>you'll buy itlolOne could just read the synopsis and gen it themselves
>>725946224Is this person your friend? Use your words little Billy.
>>725946074>Because with AI we enter a market of ideas. If their idea is better, you'llask chatgpt to come up with something just legally distinct enough to avoid a lawsuit and use the idea without actually paying the idea guy, duh
>>725946132>>725946239Art you illiterate retardsAnd yes electricity. Countries all around the world are building stronger grids.
>>725946201none of things you've said have anything to do with AIwhat the fuck are you talking about?you argument for AI, is that people do better jobs?LOL
>>725946161>lick bootsWhat the actual fuck? lmaoYou're the one who supports central banking, you're the one who supports intellectual property, you're the one who is against automation and wants us to wageslave until we die at 70.Eat shit and die.>show me a single examplehere >>725946201food is a good example, that and computers in general have become a LOT cheaper over the past 30 years
>>725923434at least use AI to do something that looks original, using the fucking ghibli filter is crazy kek
>>725946224Gooners jerk off to anything including shitty SFMs as long as it features their niche fetish so this isn't a big feat
>>725945856>This image is great, but why would I want to look at someone else's AI gens when I can gen my own?It's funny that AI fags think generating images puts them in some special club with artists, because AI art, which already barely held value to begin with, is being rapidly devalued by the sheer amount of slop being producedYet actual art by actual artists will still be something special that holds value (although demand will plummet, sadly)
>>725946342you're the one carping for technofeudalists to own everything and force you back into blue collar work to serve them
>>725945014Who said anything about cars either, but there you were. Let me ask:Why should the rhetorical frame be another industry 100 years ago and not the same one just a few?
I think the outrage is justified in that it is terribly blatant they didn't even try to hide it was AI genned, which is something I feel people who make and like that content should strive for.The "AI look" of being an over-rendered, soft shaded, hyper realistic quality just looks plain bad. Combined with a really stiff composition that you see in most AI art (very little dynamic poses and using common angles like the male's POV or front facing view), and it becomes obvious when an image is PROOOMPTED.I've been fiddling with an SD local model to make my own slop but I find it's hard to get images I like from it simply because (at least for me) the image is unfappable if it still looks too much like the aforementioned "AI look."Here's three examples which I think demonstrates what I'm trying to describe here, and how AI art should be used in the future if they abandon the hyper detailed style that most AI slop tends to produce.The left and center image are genned by me. The left one copies an artist called Jack Cayless which I really like how it turned out, since it has a heavy stylization that deviates from being too perfect/hyper detailed. It keeps a simple artstyle with some flaws and exaggerations that I think make it a bit tougher to tell it's AI (though the non-dynamic pose and awkward standing gives it away).The middle one I don't really like. Despite being technically competent the overall style that aims for extreme details make it pretty obvious it was AI made and turns me off. This is the style I think other AI genners should avoid (I say this but it is blatantly the most popular style you see out of AI images, which is a shame).The right one wasn't genned by me but something I just found while browsing rule34. I think this is also a good style to aim for; the rough sketchiness makes it easier to forgive flaws (like the fingers here being miscounted) and there's a certain charm to the sketchy look that I find appealing.
>>725946387AI artists are on average far above regular artists. They have way more followers and make more money.
>>725946419All you can do is rip off actual artists with this slop. Nothing but sad simulacrums. I much prefer AI animations
>>725946320>none of things you've said have anything to do with AIYou're very low IQ I can tell.I'm talking about automation. AI will be used as a form of advanced automation.We're discussing the economic impact of AI.Try to keep up.>>725946397>technofeudalistslmao what?I don't support central banking.I want to end the fed so they all go fucking bankrupt and this retarded AI bubble pops.Also how is a one day work week with high living standards for workers "feudalism"?You okay retard?>force you back into blue collar work to serve themIf I had to work in a warehouse for 3 hours a week and get the same living standard I do now at 40 hours a week, it would obviously be an improvement.
>>725946257Wrong. We'll be using Neuralink AI generation which require true granular creativity, it goes beyond just general prompting. Reading off a script doesnt work. We're gknna play my epic Halo MMORPG in the future
>>725946081>you can only argue in strawmenThat is actually what all your arguments boil down to though>relating everything back to events from many years ago, which are substantially different from this situation, is a valid argument, honestOh, my mistake, there's this wonderful gem too.Magical thinking.
>>725946487Bro what? Find me a single AI "artist" worth more than Jeff Kooms at $500m
>>725946487Then why is there only 6 sloppers making big money compared to the 30 Artists on patreon? Sloppers also keep on desperately shilling on rule34 but they barely get any subscribers since their shit all looks generic kek
>>725946305Not really, ai slop shirts/ mug/ pillows/ postcards cost the same money they did before. And those with real illustrations aren't lowering their piece to stay competitive either
>>725946342AI is funded and founded by central banking, tech bros and bailed out by tax payersyou live in dreamland
>>725946610Everyone will be playing their own not yours. There probably wont even be any socialising, Just made up NPC bots to be your co-op buddies
>>725946419>typing all this shit when there isn't any real outragebruh
>>725946546... aren't AI animations also just ripping off other animations or vids made IRL?I like that one gif of the monkey getting sucked into the tornado, super funny
>>725946660The "filter AI" button on r34 was like the apocalypse for us sloppers, feels bad man.
>>725946419lmao at the left one's feeti looked at it again and the middle's one's left toenails are trying to escape too
>>725946487>AI artists are on average far above regular artists. They have way more followers and make more money.Absolute nonsenseBut even if I'm proven wrong on that, it's only going to last for as long as it takes the average person to start generating images themselvesWho in their right mind would give money to people for generating AI images when they can just generate their own?
>>725946587The only economic impact is you losing your job and then paying for Sam Altman's 15th yacht your ego will be your downfall
>>725946724stop projecting
>>725946764i keep trying to bypass ai-generated tag but i keep on getting banned, making my 30th alt to try and continue advertising
>>725946739Whatever, I think there should be outrage then. The OP image (if it's even real) just shows how atrocious AI images can be and should be held to higher standard, especially in a big budget COD game.... actually how big was the budget for this COD?
>>725946685>Not really, ai slop shirts/ mug/ pillows/ postcards cost the same money they did before.They don't cost anything, you can make them yourself with AI.>And those with real illustrations aren't lowering their piece to stay competitive eitherNo one is buying, that's why artists all over the internet are mad about AI.
>>725923434if the devs are being cheap and lazy enough to use ai then i should have to pay less for their products
>>725946816>middle'sthis is what i get for trying to type a new word in the middle of a sentence
>>725946618>That is actually what all your arguments boil down to thoughI never said there wouldn't be anything bad that happens. There are challenges with any new technology, but the overall outcome is positive and benefits humanity.Also AI won't fix EVERYTHING, but it will be a massive improvement.I don't want to fucking WORK, you faggot.Why do you want to wageslave? what is wrong with you? kek>>relating everything back to events from many years ago, which are substantially different from this situation, is a valid argument, honestkekHow precisely are the laws of economics different from then and now?What would change that makes my argument about automation lowering prices not valid?>>725946719>AI is funded and founded by central bankingCentral banking funds literally EVERYTHING, every industry, every social movement, welfare, healthcare, wars, communist movements, EVERYTHINGIt's a giant scam, that YOU support.>tech bros and bailed out by tax payersYes, no shit I am obviously against this.>>725946826>is you losing your jobIf I lost my job, new jobs would become available with less working hours, and I would be able to afford more products because prices would have fallen 90%
>>725946587>I don't support central banking.who do you think is paying for all this AI shit?tech bros and bankswake up liberal
>>725946724Most people are more simple than me. You'll rather step into my world when you see it, I'm sure. It will be boundless, no p2w, and lowered age of consent npc romance, depending on AI laws
>>725941613Fucking lmao. The elites thought the plebs were too happy with working 2-3 days a week at home and forced RTO and you think they'll be fine with them working one day a week.The endgame of this shit is turning the entire world into argentina, brazil or jakarta. You aren't invited to the side with the pools and highrises.
>>725946201>but for example the price of food has come down ginormous over the past 100 years due to more efficient tractors, better fertilizer, better pesticides etc.loaf of bread in 1925: 15c ($2.62 inflation adjusted to 2023)loaf of bread in 2025: $1.48
>>725946930There is outrage about OP's pic, but the person you replied to don't know that since they only use 4chan and nothing else
>>725924232AIfags setting up a patreon just to sell AI slop that was very obviously trained on someone like thepit or thiccwithaQ art style 10x worse looking is genuinely the most embarrassing shit I've ever seen. Only topped by the retards who actually spend money on it
>>725923434The problem is that it's low quality. Nobody actually cares about AI usage on princible except for a handfulnof of autists. What the vast majority of people care about is if its good or not. This is not good enough. This is exactly like the dog shit gens you see facebook boomers use as pfps.
>>725946816Not a footfag, so the feet don't really ruin it for me (at least for the left since the artist it copies doesn't do much feet focused stuff and looks similar to that anyways).The middle I do agree, the weird feet look more out of place since the rest of the image is waaaay more detailed.
>>725947000>I would be able to afford more products because prices would have fallen 90%sure every company on earth will just start handing out free money and all the prices will fall instantlyagain with this cope, pure delusional talkwe don't live in "perfect" capitalism you moron
>>725945990art is already automated
>>725947000>I don't want to fucking WORK, you faggot.We knowYou want to just be lazy 24/7 and have AI do everything for you, while you rot away and get early-access dementia because you stopped challenging your brain>Why do you want to wageslave?I don't, but I want the ability to earn money, faggotI'm not going to magically get money just for existing when there are no longer any jobs
>>725947000So you're allowed to bring up "central banking" for no fucking reason against me, but you get to conveniently ignore it when you're the biggest cheerleader.Sure retard.
I thought the problem was the hypocrisy in gaming outlets that gave arc raiders giga low scores for using AI voices but didn't for COD because they're desperate to stay in activisions good books. the flip flopping on issues is identical to mutt pol tards
>>725947053So much outrage that they forgot Activision has been doing this for years now and buyers don't care. You're some green haired tranny that doesn't even buy CoD acting like it's unacceptable that they fired an artist.
>>725947175not a f**tfaggot either but i do think it's funny how feet are the easiest thing for the ai to fuck up because no one can draw nice looking feet and all the actual footfags only want to draw hyper realistic sweaty soles or some shit, never just a normal foot in a normal perspective
>>725947193NTA but he's slightly right? As an example the only time this would happen though is if their storage gets bloated due to the robots being so efficient at their job, so they have to lower their food prices to clear inventory. But if the robots are just like an average worker and don't produce a lot, then the prices will be stagnant
>>725947000>If I lost my job, new jobs would become available with less working hoursThere will be vastly fewer jobs overall, and employers aren't going to hire three people to do 3 hours each instead of one person to do 9 hours kekSo what makes you think you'll be able to get one of these "fewer working hours" jobs?
>>725947013>who do you think is paying for all this AI shit?Central banks.Problem retard?I can support AI in general while being against central banking.>wake up liberalCommunists deserve death.>>725947040your numbers are likely far off but it's still a lot lowersee https://imgur.com/a/iCk60Sn>>725947193>sure every company on earth will just start handing out free moneyWhy do you guys have to strawman like that?Why can't you argue in good faith for once in your lives? lolThat's not even close to what I said or implied.>we don't live in "perfect" capitalism you moronWe don't NEED to live in perfect capitalism for automation to decrease prices you absolute moron.>copelisten to yourself, you have no argument
>>725947386It's kind of poetic. I think AI art very obviously shows how any advanced robot or actual AI we try to make in the future will likely inherit our flaws, like a bad parent fucking up their kid.
>>725947271>>725947193That guy was right about your low IQs kek.>>725947440>slightlyHe's completely right. The tech gods will figure out AI eventually and retards believe that will just mean terminator will run around killing everyone and stealing their money(for what??) when in reality it will mean we'll be creating tens of billions of robots to do everything for us, and money will rapidly trend towards meaningless.
>>725943001No matter how much you luddites rage against this it will always be true and in 20 years no one will even remember this "debate"
>>725946685Why would anyone lower the price of something they made with passion just because the site allows AIfags to flood the site with low quality AI slop that 90% of people aren't buying? Especially when more and more sites are forcing the disclosure of AI usage or at least the ability to filter it? Thinking that people even care about competitive pricing to begin with shows that you don't understand why people do this
>>725946946Free minus whatever service you needed to get those printed, the materials you printed them on and possibly the shipping.If you see a shirt you like in a shop, no amount of AI will make it free.On that note. Flashy clothing brans haven't gone bankrupt because people can print logos and images themselves, nor gift ans souvenir shops.And again, those who use AI, still sell at the exact same price as others.
>>725947491you're right, we're just going to dieit's all over, haven't you seen that one movie where everyone dies once things get better?
>>725935190>leftoidsHalf of the states experiencing the biggest electricity price increases from AI consumption are red states. I understand Peter Thiel and Elon Musk pay people like you to post as if the only people concerned about AI are lefty artists, but that's simply not true. Let me guess -- you get a bonus every time you use the term tranny?
>>725947271>>725947271>You want to just be lazy 24/7 and have AI do everything for you,Problem you boomer bootlicker? lol>while you rot away and get early-access dementia because you stopped challenging your brainActually this will give me free time to pursue my passions and have fun.>but I want the ability to earn money,I want you the ability to earn purchasing power, non worthless dollars.>are no longer any jobslol you people are so dumb>>725947295>for no fucking reasonIt is obviously relevant and matters.Also you do indeed support is so lol>but you get to conveniently ignore it when you're the biggest cheerleader.I am not ignoring it. I know central banking funds AI like it funds everything else.
>>725947370Relax, you might burst a vein in your forehead if you keep on seething like thatTrannies were already mad at activision, of course, but now it's normies that are getting mad because the AIslop is actually blatant instead of being well disguised like last time. Hope that clears it up for you!
>>725923434Why is there a man wearing a medieval armor, a dragon, a ghost and a wizard in a Call of Duty game?
>>725946487>AI """artist""" buy bots to pretend that they're slop is goodLmao
>>725947386
>>725947508>>725947608>replying to yourself>Communists deserve death.then kill yourselfyou're the faggot who wants everyone to be the sameyou're making up a crazy hypothetical scenario where capitalist companies will suddenly turn into charities overnightyou're sticking your fingers in your ears, ignoring reality and calling everyone else dumb
>>725947491>There will be vastly fewer jobs overall,There would be about the same.A job that used to require someone working 5 days a week would transform into 5 or 10 people working 1 day a week or 4 hours for 1 day.Also new jobs will be created because capital goods are cheaper, it's easier for businesses to create new jobs.Human wants are endless so there's endless possibilities.
>>725947608>That guy was right about your low IQs kek.It's sad that you think your delusions make you intelligent.
>>725947662people are buying AI art and they need to pay rent
>>725947608>and money will rapidly trend towards meaningless.That would be an amazing reality to live in but you don't actually think that the tech giants are this benevolent, right?
>>725947819>you're the faggot who wants everyone to be the sameI don't?How does making it so we all work less make us all the same?>you're making up a crazy hypothetical scenario where capitalist companies will suddenly turn into charities overnightWhy do you continue to strawman?They're doing this for fucking PROFIT you moron HAHAHAHAHAThey lower prices to gain marketshare, profit.They've done this since capitalism was invented.
>>725947819>>725947862total lack of an argument from this ape
>>725947779toes don't bend like fingers, just look at your own feet
>>725947695You haven't answered how you're going to get a job when there are very many workers lining up for very few opportunitiesI'm sure your refusal to learn any skills, and your desire to let AI do everything for you, will make you highly employable
>>725947662They wouldn't. And they won't even if it isn't something they made with passion, believe me the guy selling shirt with the word "vintage" and a pair of mustaches or whatever had none.That's the point.Ai hasn't made real art cheaper either despite whatever insane claim
>>725947706>Problem you boomer bootlicker? lolNot for me, but you've got a grim future ahead of you and you're too dense to realize it
>>725948015if you crop out everything it sure looks like nothing>>725947984>they do everything for profit>they will take less moneydelusional on a basic level
>>725948040>very few opportunitiesYou guys just assume there will be a lack of jobs, but since people would only need to work a tiny amount to get the same standard of living as people have today, there would be far more jobs.If an employer needs a human to do x thing 40 hours a week, he could instead get 40 people to do that same job 1 hour a week.Have you ever thought of that? retardNot to mention the new jobs that will be created with capital goods because 90% cheaper
>>725947982Tech giants are completely fucking irrelevant in the future you mindless schizo, and they've been very clear in their intent to bring forth that future. The world you envision makes no sense and ignores every ounce of reality and history out there.
>>725947984>I don't?taking away the need to develop skills makes everyone disposableyou are retarded
>>725934461one of those cans of artist's shit went for like 300k some years ago. originally it was only worth its weight in gold. nobody even knows if they contain some italian guy's shit since they have never been openedthat is true "art"
>>725948249People are disposable even if they develop skills. What are you trying to say?
gGOOD MORNING SAARS
>>725948228>SchizoWho are you talking about?
It's the next battle they will fight forever but not win like against DLC.
>>725948130>grim futureWith massive price reductions? How is that grim? That's amazing.You luddites were wrong back then and you're wrong now.>>725948172>>they will take less moneyThey will make more money actually. If you lower prices, you get more sales and thus more money, you make more from higher volumes.Also if one of these companies is retarded and doesn't lower prices, the other companies will destroy them by lowering prices. Econ 101.Read a book.
>>725947858>A job that used to require someone working 5 days a week would transform into 5 or 10 people working 1 day a week or 4 hours for 1 day.Why exactly would employers bother to hire and train 5 people for 1 day a week instead of 1 person for 5 days a week?>Also new jobs will be created because capital goods are cheaperEven if this wasn't fanfiction, jobs created would be heavily outpaced by jobs lost to automation.
>>725948025>t. fatass with subhuman feet
>>725948306Skills make people valuable. You do not understand how the work economy functions and you are trying to argue the basics.
>>725948350>xhe forgot about monopolies
>>725948204>If an employer needs a human to do x thing 40 hours a week, he could instead get 40 people to do that same job 1 hour a week.>Have you ever thought of that? retardYou keep repeating this fantasy as though it means anything
>>725948350>If you lower prices, you get more salesprices aren't going to get lower, companies are profit drivenyou have to be intentionally misunderstanding basic economics, to say shit like "read a book" after dropping the most deluded take of 2025
>>725948434Is that what they told you when you got laid off because of AI?
>>725948249>taking away the need to develop skillsI want it to be fucking optional.You're a cuck.>>725948386>Why exactly would employers bother to hire and train 5 people for 1 day a week instead of 1 person for 5 days a week?Because hardly anyone would want to work 5 days a week? Employers have to take into account the workers demands when the worker is looking for a job.>b-but what if tons of people want to work 5 daysThen they would only need to work for like 5 years and retire after 5 years, then they would be out of the labor pool, opening up more job slots.>Even if this wasn't fanfictionThis happened for the past 200 years.It happens even now. >jobs created would be heavily outpaced by jobs lost to automation.This is just your feelings.>>725948459>monopolies can magically exist without government interventionexcept they can't and never couldinb4 muh standard oil myth
>>725948404its hilarious that AI sloppa still looks like everything is made out of fucking latex and is shiny for no reason.
>>725948334You. You're obsessed with a handful of companies and you think they control the planet.>>725948562>competition doesn't exist and will never existGreat argument.
>>725948578Is that the fantasy you'd like to imagine?>I want it to be fucking optional.Oh, I get it, you're a lazy faggot.That makes total sense. You're some fat fuck, who can't even get a job. That explains so much!
>>725948404i was gonna say this looks breddy decent but the gaps are too wide, can't imagine holding that pose, already getting cramps trying to replicate it
>>725948536>no argumentguess I win again>>725948562>prices aren't going to get lower, companies are profit drivenThey're going lower BECAUSE companies are profit driven.If you want more profits, you will lower prices to gain more marketshare and make it up on volume.This is why during the late 1800s when we had no central banks, prices fell for decades.>basic economicsdude just lol, you don't even know the basics>>725948698>>competition doesn't exist and will never existthey're so dumb they actually fucking believe this
>Think AI will replace drawtrannies only>End up being replaced in my programming job for the same machine I advocated for years laterfuck
>>725948350>With massive price reductions?Won't happen, but no, I'm talking about how badly you'll collapse in on yourself when all your laziness gets enabled by AIWe have to wageslave far too much for far too little benefit now, it's true. But striving and being challenged is a vital part of the human condition. If you get everything you think you want, you'll be miserable and sink into complete worthlessness.
>>725948645>it's hilarious that finished art existsWhy? For me it's hilarious that most art trannies can't do anything more than sketch.
>>725948698>competition doesn't exist and will never existseven companies run the worldit's called an "oligopoly" you should google thatloser>>725948784>dude just lol, you don't even know the basicsplease keep repeating what I say back to youyou're acting like an LLM right now, just saying back whatever I type to you
>>725923542This, /thread...which is going to happen soon of course.
>>725923434>doesn't thematically fit>scenes are disjoint garbage like most lazy promptingYes.
>>725948724You're replying to more than one person you retarded cuck slave.
>anti-AI luddite cucks ITT are actually making the argument that a post scarcity utopia would be heckin bad because it would make people lazyThese people are the most cucked.Holy shit, enjoy wageslaving until you die.
>>725948698who are you quoting?
>>725948204why would he do that instead of just hiring one person to work for forty hours and reduce administrative overhead?
>>725944648The human shape is highly inefficient for most duties. That's why for the past half a century we've done it with non humanoid bots.You don't have a robot cashier, you have a screen.You don't have cartoon-like robot factory workers, you have multi-jointed arms, presses and bands.Pilots don't have a robot buddy they give the helm to, it's in the software.The entire concept of a humanoid robot to work is based entirely on pop culture hype, just like the metaverse that the same tech people were shilling a few years back. Not innovative and highly undesirable under any point of view.
>>725948761It makes more sense in the full video
>>725928041For the non local ran models, chatgpt or bing/Microsofts or grok, yes. For any local model it's not really an issue. I'd assume most people don't know anything about local models and that's why they default all there opinions off what slop bing and grok shits out since that's what mainly pollutes the board.
>there's one faggot in this thread who believes LLMs will make food dirt cheap and companies will turn into charities overnight, while spamming the words "retarded cuck slave" to no-one
>>725948795AI still fucks up sometimes and needs a human touch. From india of course. Artfags we can get from some third world sea nation like indonesia. The world is changing!
what the fuck is going on in this thread
>>725948858>seven companies run the worldXe finally showed his true colors. Name these companies for us xir. Tell us what they control and how.
>>725948620>Because hardly anyone would want to work 5 days a week?Yeah, people never want to earn more money.>Then they would only need to work for like 5 years and retire after 5 years, then they would be out of the labor poolWhat if they don't?And even if that person retires after 5 years there's still a fuckton of people vying for his job
>>725949119AI bro throwing a temper tantrum>>725949145See?
>>725948996hands and feet are inefficientyou heard it here first folks
>>725948784>>no argumentI already made it in another post faggot, it's not my fault you keep spamming the same delusional nonsense
>>725948795turns out you can't use AI to "augment" your workflow and you will just be replacedLMFAO
>>725949145>he's trying to assign a right wing theory with twitter lefties for 4chan pointswhat a nigger
AI games will be paid for with artificial money
>>725947508>see https://imgur.com/a/iCk60Snnothing there dumbassmy numbers are correct15c as advertised in a newspaper https://www.loc.gov/resource/sn84026749/1925-08-28/ed-1/?sp=10$1.48 as advertised in wallmart right now https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-White-Round-Top-Bread-Loaf-20-oz/10315355?classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L1200you are a dumbass
>>725923542So I heard Arc Raiders used me it.Makes sense now>Inb4 ITS FINE WHEN ARC RAIDERS
>>725949104This is a compelling argument, can you refute it?
>>725948815>Won't happen,LMAO so automated humanoid robots doing the tasks humans used to do which makes the company far more efficient, vastly reducing input costs wouldn't result in lower prices?Why would firms not lower prices to gain more marketshare?Businesses are greedy. Why wouldn't they want more marketshare?The rest of your argument is just boomer cope.I don't want to work. Cry about it.>>725948858>please keep repeating what I say back to youYou're the fucking LLM. You didn't even respond to my argument because you fucking lost.You have no rebuttal.>>725948990Because in this society barely anyone would want to work that long if they didn't have to.The employer needs to take that into consideration.>>725949149>Yeah, people never want to earn more money.People value their leisure more than labor.Some people probably would want to do this, but they would have no much money that they would retire in a few years anyway, taking them out of the workforce.>What if they don't?Then they're actually fucking insane and have a slavery fetish.Imagine wanting to work until you died and never get to enjoy your money.People like this would be insanely rare and not worth talking about.>>725949248>I already made it in another post faggot,lol whatever it was I already replied to itWhere's your rebuttal?>it's not my fault you keep spamming the same delusional nonsenseIt's not my fault you can't refute anything I'm saying and keep strawmanning me
>>725949282"UR A TRANNY" is their go-to deflection nowSome genius updated their script
>>725949363>Using the first result from overviewNow click on the references and screencap it then post it here, Overview has a high chance of just making shit up
>>725949209>>725949282>can't do it
>>725949308>my numbers are correctAdjust what you said for inflation>>725949363He can't because he's an economically illiterate leftist.>>725949504>basic econ 101 is "just making shit up"man come on this is embarrassingYou literally think increasing efficiency doesn't result in lower prices.You're basically a flat earther.Either way, adjusted for inflation, prices have come down considerably, so my main argument about increases in efficiency decreasing prices stands.
>>725949027first half is ok i guess, something about how the bloated fat sole part reacts to the toes bending in the second half is kinda horrifying but the toes bend much bettercan't believe i'm fucking analyzing feet gifs on /v/eet
>>725949363KEKohnonono you're genuinely retarded
>this thread
>>725949504There are no references.I'm accepting this as a concession. Thank you for your time.
>>725949225for manufacturing? Yes. Why do you think they kept getting torn off before OSHA came along
>>725949225... You realise why tools exist right?
>>725949625>UR DUMCompelling argument. I'm sure this refutes 200 years of economic history.
>>725949368>employers are wholly benevolent and have employees' best interests at heartoh I see, you're an actual child who has never actually been employed
>>725949558>adjust what you said for inflationyou fucking nigger i already did in the first post. 15c --> $2.62god damn the AI rotted your brain or something
>>725949737just stop replying to him you fucking retard. this is embarrassing
>>725923434I believe its intentionally bad in the sense its obvious its the ghibi ai slop shit. All in a means to stur up talk about the game since nothing else about it will.
Reminder, theres no point in talking about AI (not actually AI just LLMs) until general AI exists. This is a just a waste of time and another, easy, avenue for them to feed you ragebait. There is no reason to fall for it.
>>725949625I'm accepting this as a concession. Thank you for your time.
>>725949737>>employers are wholly benevolentWhy do you people keep making this argument?Our argument was always that they are greedy as fuck and their greed, along with competition is what pushes prices down.>and have employees' best interests at heartThey're forced to give some concessions towards potential employees. It's a labor MARKET afterall. That's why companies now give benefit packages when they don't have to.>>725949752>you fucking nigger i already did in the first post. 15c --> $2.62That's not adjusted obviouslyAlso we we talking about the price of bread in the first place.Also I'm still correct that adjusted for inflation prices fell.
>>725949752>The value of 15 cents from 1925 is approximately $2.78 USD
>>725949784You seem to be seething over not actually having a refutation.I accept your concession.
Anon who says that we will be living in a post-scarity society soonDo you have an idea on when this could happen, like perhaps a date or some event? I don't know much about economics but I'd be willing to hear what you have to say since that sounds like something I am genuinely looking forward to. Is this something that can happen in my lifetime?
>>725949959You did good trying to educate these people but they're subhumans that can't think for themselves. Until some leftist leader tells them what to think they'll just keep arguing with you.
>>725950065it will never happenhes a overly optimistic commie
>>725943207You are the one convinced you can't live without the patronage of rich people.
>>725923945How this nigger sees himself.
>>725950065Not him but it depends when the breakthroughs come and how the elites up top kick and scream about it or other things. We're already well on the way towards the trail though. Maybe like 20-30 years.>>725950175Stop projecting you satanic freak.
>>725949978>>725949959yeah dumbass read the post i quoted inflation to 2023. the higher price just $2.78 just makes the reduction even smaller so his argument worse>That's not adjusted obviouslyyes it is adjusted. what the fuck are you on about? >Also we we talking about the price of bread in the first placethe prices are for loaves of bread in 1925 and 2025. you acutally can't seem to think for yourself. are you just typing what i'm saying into an llm and hoping it makes sense?>Also I'm still correct that adjusted for inflation prices fell.never in dispute.
>>725950065A real post scarcity society?ImpossibleA virtually post scarcity society?Probably not for 100 years.A mostly automated society where things are a LOT less scarce and you have to work a lot less?Probably 15 years I bet.Though it's going to be rough with people people confused as fuck as to what is happening and passing retarded laws that make it take longer.Remember to support candidates that support free markets and want to abolish central banking.>>725950125thanksI dunno what it is man. Luddites and economic leftists are actually insane.The main issue is that these people are fed propaganda their whole lives and there's hardly anyone out there to counter it.Hardly nobody understands basic econ nowadays.People literally think AI is just going to cause mass unemployment, no new jobs will be created and prices won't come down. It's retardedAlso the fact central banking is destroying society makes it much worse
>>725949890You will come back to the next thread to argue about shit that won't happen. Enjoy your NEETbux while it lasts because you will be slaughtered for being useless
>>725950065We were basically there when the country was 99% white. It's not a technology problem.
>>725950410>never in dispute.It was though. That was the main point I was making with the other anon before you chimed in.Also the image I posted shows inflation adjusted food prices have fell dramatically.
>>725950473This is really what trannies fantasize about while we laugh at them for getting mad at call of duty pictures.
>>725950473>you will be slaughtered for being uselessYou people don't care about the truth, you want to continue living in your fantasy world because living in a "movie" is more fun.You're children.I can't fucking believe there are people here that think living in a world of abundance where you barely have to work is a bad thing.
>>725950431>>725950387Thanks anonsI will be waiting for when that time comes, and I will make sure to be against central banking
>>725950659Based. Look into austrian economics too.www.mises.org
>>725950585NTA but aren't trannies anti-work too? i am pretty sure the guy you're replying to is a jew due to how mad he sounds that people aren't working for him
I hate how if I want to go look at art now I have to sift through all this AI bullshit, some sites still don't have toggles and AI jeets keep spamming every gallery. This is the gayest timeline.
>>725950949Type -ai-generated in the searchbar when you go to your favorite booru and it wont be there anymore
>>725950949Jeet problem not AI problem.
>>725950836jewish tranny then
>>725950431>People literally think AI is just going to cause mass unemployment, no new jobs will be created and prices won't come down. It's retardedAnd then the robots will kill us because umm.. yeah that's just what I saw in a movie once or twice. In fact movies don't even show that usually, I just think it will happen because I saw someone online say "useless eaters" once. And as we all know, rich elite people control everything and will kill everyone the moment they're able to. Because uhh orange man bad.
>>725949145Blackrock and like 2 other investment firms are the majority shareholder of like 90% or public corporations.
