gabenbros i dont feel so good....
>poorfag cope
This may be an issue as I think it's priced the same as an PS5 pro
>>725937559It will he priced the same as a ps6 pro
>>725937381Well it's marketed to trannies after all
if its costs more than a PS5 I won't get it, simple as.
>>725937381Anybody who is capable of thought knows this piece of shit isn't going to be any cheaper than $700. People who keep saying $400-600 aren't thinking at all.
>>725937381>le speculation headline presented as fact>le nigger faggot screenshot on le slash vee slash>inb4 le
>>725937381Oh wow. You're saying the PC is going to cost what a PC normally costs? Wow, who could have guessed that one. It's not going to be $299 like I thought?!?!
>>725937794$650 base and $700 with a controller is my guess
>>725937841le
What makes you won't sell it for a loss like the deck? If they sell shit tons of games through the machine, that covers for the loss.
>>725938005valve said they won't be selling at a loss like 'eck
>>725937381Tendie deflection thread, sorry that MP4 is total slop but seething at Valve won’t help you lmao
>>725937794>isn't going to be any cheaper than $700uhm...
>>725938005Because it's just a PC box. Runs the risk of companies buying them in bulk and then installing Windows on them and using them as workstations, and never using Steam and buying games for them. They can't recoup the loss that way.
>might bethank IGN, very cool
>>725937381reminder asmongold says this is going to cost at least $1100
>>725938171>mlid>estimates
Ninpedos seething kek
>>725938231you can't prove them wrong
>>725937794$800 is where you're building a pc as powerful as the ps5 pro you fucking schizo
>>725938256asmongold is not a very smart personI would be ashamed to parrot his opinion unprompted
>>725937559It will be priced a little cheaper than non existing xboxnext, so 1100-1000 burgercoins
>>725938256my cat is smarter than autismgold
>>725938406He is retard, but he probably has simps who leaked the information
Rip
>>725938171>ram>48 dollarslmao
>>725938256your butt buddy ass mongoloid is a completely tech illiterate unemployed retard$1100 nets you a ps5 pro tier pc that will be upgradeable beyond ps6 pro's specs down the line
>>725938904forgot pic
>>725937381Why are people expecting any kind of good price/performance ratio from a prebuilt? Are they retarded?
>>725938726Ram is cheap when you order millions of units.LRN2BUSINESS
>>725939160Ram is not cheap when much bigger businesses order much more ram than Valve ever could.
>>725937474>loanxisters malding
>>725938171>what are taxes>what is a profit margin so .. $700 just like your image says.
>>725938171This all depends on the orange man's traffics and the price of ram. Look at the Steam Deck on the left that's the cost to build not selling cost. Moore's Law even talk about how Valve has to sell it at a profit unlike Sony/Xbox. At best it i'll be 550 ish the same price as a PS5.
>>725937381Its a novelty pc, price will make or break it
Op might be gayer than you think he is.
>>725939125deck has good price/performance, that's why
>>725938171>he thinks the same company that charges $100 for digital wedding rings (aka global messages) in tf2 will price moderatelyAbsolute retard. You're not even thinking of the cost of assembly or the revenue split with the manufacturer.
>>725937381>$200 GPU>$200 CPU>$100 Mobo>$100 RAM>$100 PSU, Case, Fan>$100 Storage>$100 Gamepad
I predict $599.99 if they don't bundle the controller.A bundle with the controller for $649.99 would be fine.
>>725939237>profit marginI don't speak kike or understand their language. Lord Gaben isn't scummy like others.
i've been enjoying consolecucks being completely illiterate and pretending like they understand what goes into systemsthis shit has entry level specs and mass manufacturing of singular units lowers the pricethat's literally why they're consolecucks, the upfront price tag
>>725937381>Woah I'm sure this will cost 300 bucks!>"its actually more than that">WHAT THIS CONSOLE IS DOOMED ALREADY
steamsissies...we lost...
>>725937381Does the article actually list any price estimates?
>>725939819>mass manufacturingWhoa, what a great idea, I can't believe Valve is the first company to try this
>>725937381any ideas on when this thing is actually supposed to come out or at least when they might announce the actual price? I mean the thing could come out today and not be out of place so I feel like there isn't really a point in waiting too long if you have production setup.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS GAY ASS MACHINE JUST RELEASE THE CONTROLLER ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>725939918manufacturing a singular integrated gaming system that fully takes advantage of the hardware instead of being a thermally throttled nuc is valve's idea
>>725939938They say early 2026 which could mean December 2027 by Valve time
They have to watch the price and try and capture market segment early.Too high and they risk dealing with the next gen consoles and potential games that have way more demanding requirements for performance.That and the next Xbox pretty much being the same thing except Windows flavored (and being able to just throw Steam / GoG, Epic, Battle.net on) , though this depends on the price of the Xbox too
it's going to cost $50
>>725939608You don't understand the difference between corporate buying power vs consumer buying power or the difference between cost to manufacture and selling cost.
>no by prebuilt can't be this console priced
>>725940029Shut up Liver
>>725937559pcbros will rage then preorder but sounds about right>but muh free games
>>725937381i just want to know the price of the controller
>>725938210microsoft might do this
>>725939819You forgot to wipe Gabe's jizz off your face.
>>725939283>orangeaidmanyeah not the cabal of ai techbase bros
>>725937381fuck off then
>it will le be expensive because... because PC SUCKS AAAAAAAAAAAmeanwhile
>>725937381people are paying for the vanity of having a gay little cuck box instead of a gaymin rig
>>725940018I mean they'd have been wise to have it ready by this holiday season which isn't happening. I could see them sitting on it for a year which might not be a good idea.
>>725939753>gaben >a jew >takes 30% cut just like everyone else >isn't scummy like others get a load of this retard
>>725940349>those specs
>>725940265do tell me about you being independent while undoubtedly using a console where everything is controlled by one entity with boomer shareholders that only care for profit
>>725940349Now picture that Valve said they plan to price their Gabecube competitively with other prebuilt PCs like that; other PCs that you can actually tear apart and upgrade down the line, unlike the Gabecube.Why would you ever buy the Gabecube?
>>725940349the steambox got better specs that that and will be cheaper
>$900>costs more than a ps6>with the power of a ps5LOL
>>725940571pass the copium lil bro i want a hit
>>725940493considerably better than the gabecube while also giving a profit to several companies>>725940542except it's not competitive, it's weakeryou're speculating entirely based off a single fucking sentence in an interview>>725940571no, it's weaker and it's custom made which is why it'll be considerably cheaper
>>725937381>GPU equivalent of an overclocked RX 7400if it doesn't cost 500 dollars or less this shit is DOA
>>725938171>Yes let's invest billions of dollars into these new hardware only to pocket $100 a poplmao classic /v/
999.99
If it's more than $500 you are much better off just building one
>>725940349now find a prebuilt that is 6"^3
>>725940349>3200mhz ddr 4>i5 14400Whats the point?
>>725937474>poorfag.If its priced to high ill just buy a NUC that can outperform it.Not that big of a leap to say others wont do the same, or just get a laptop or tablet.
>>725937651Why are trannies rich?
>>725940821the point isn't raw profit retard, you don't understand the first thing about valvethis is made for disaffected consolecucks too stupid for regular pcs and they make their money back on steam store salesit also lets them improve proton and increases linux market share
>>725940821don't look up how much they are making for each dick sale
>ignlol
>>725938429Horrible deal then since the next sexbox is 5x more powerful
>>725940931the NUC will probably not be able to download updates while suspended and will probably not resume as quickly as the gabecube.
>>725941023They sell those?
>>725940901it's actually much easier to make shit smaller and cheaper when you're making custom shityou're trimming down on some of the useless io and wasted space that happens inside a regular pc because you're no longer complying with industry standards of modularity>>725940914better than what all consoles have
>>725937381It's probably something like $399 (possibly without a controller) for 512GB and $549 for 2TB and controller.
>>725939608>$100 slot booking, processing fee, delivery>$100 scalpers>$100 aftermarket decal faceplates designs and comes with smol figurines
>>725938210Stop repeating this retarded excuse. You can only buy them from valve so valve can easioy decide who can buy one.
>>725937381dead on arrival
>>725941137>better than what all consoles haveYes but it comes down to cost at the end of the day. For $800 you could buy much better parts.
>>725941081Ya but who gives a shit.The only thing this lil fucker would be used for in my home is playing vampire survivors.
>>725941338>Ya but who gives a shit.me, others.
>>725941274>valve sells thing>"I want 100x of your best things, please" >"No!" won't happen.
>>725940870>>725940019Yea I don't think you guys get it.You aren't just paying for quality, you're paying to support Valve, the last company on earth that cares about gamers. That alone makes it worth it, even if its double the price of its competitors
>>725941403>companies will buy overkill nucs that require individual tinkering to install corporate windows and pay licencing costs for it when they could get something more cost effective>valve will just deliver hundreds of their pcs to a single address and not question it despite the point being to sell to individuals that will buy games
>>725941378Ya but, why would I care about you exactly?
>>725941112daily threads here where people show them
>>725941926you obviously care otherwise you wouldn't be in the gabecube thread
>>725937381That controller is so ugly. I hope we can still use the PS4 controllers on it.
>>725942031I care about the gabecube only if the price is right, other wise no.I said why would I care about you.
>>725937474Valve drones already have a script ready in case the thing is indeed way overpriced.
>>725942087do you stare at your dick when you masturbate?
>>725937381>IGNBuy an ad and then blow it out your ass.
>>725937381i will probably buy it because i am a steam cuckold
>>725937474Why would... poorfags want it to be expensive?
>>725939237Valve doesn't need a profit margin. They just have to not sell it at a total loss in case a bunch people just hoover it up as a super cheap pc and don't buy any games off steam with it.
>>725942130nobody asked you to care about me you retarded nigger
>>725940493A 5060 shits all over consoles.
>>725942149Yes, but I also feel it in my hand, and I like the PS4's handles.
valve's profit on this thing is measured not in profit margins but in linux and proton usage and steam store salesit's made by a private company that doesn't answer to illiterate boomers that need to see the share price number go up at every opportunity, this is war chest shit
>>725942149Why are you thinking about dick out of nowhere?
>>725942376and?
>>725939237>>725940821They specifically provided the bill of materials for the steam deck right beside it so you would understand the relative intended profit margin.
>>725942308Good.Dont.
>>725942536stupid monkeydance for me
>>725939753Jesus Christ LOL
>>725942467because its appearance doesn't matter as you're not actually looking at it during usethe point is functionality and ergonomics and from that standpoind this thing will be top notch
My steam deck just fucking shit the bed and died yesterday. I contacted steam support and they said it was $180 RMA fix. Thinking about maybe just trying to fix it myself but the SSD isn't being recognized, it takes 5 minutes to even get into the BIOS, and since I don't have a spare 2230 SSD to test with Id need to end up buying a new one for at least 40 bucks and even though there's no guarantee that it's not the mobo that's cooked.I'm about 10x less excited for this shit now, even Dell has a better warranty than this shit.
>>725942594
>>725942690dance more
>>725942473And by comparison that's a decent price for what you're getting compared to them. The steam machine will be even cheaper.
>>725942376>muh gpu!!The rest of the computer is low-mid range, you're essentially overpaying out the ass for a 5060 and nothing else
This is literally all Valve has to do and they'll win so fucking hard.
>>725942971personally i wouldn't be interested in a steam machine with the power of an 'eck
>>725940821Are you talking about the 256GB Steam deck?
>>725941163this is the most likely price, maybe even $299 for the base 512gb version. look at the specs, it's R5 7500 + 7400M with 16gb ram. no way it's going to be over $500.
>>725940821consoles are sold at a loss because they'll make the money back on the ecosystemyou can't apply that reasoning to the steam machine because?
>>725937381$800 FLOP INCOMING!!!GET DOWN! GET DOWN!
>>725942762I actually make money by shitposting here because of an advertisement agency.Do you?
>>725943253good monkey. keep dancing
>>725940964The question is ask is why are rich people trannies. And the answer is because they need to feed their victim complex somehow.
$600 minimum, probably closer to $800.
>>725943165>>725941163This is stupid. Valve isn't running a charity.
>>725942265they already mentioned multiple times in interviews that they are interested in taking a loss and they arent interested in competing with cheap consoles.
>>725942131They already have pcs by nature of PC gaming so they wouldn't buy it anyway. Even if it was fairly priced. Specwise, it's the box isn't for the typical 'gamer'.
>>725942971
>source ign>bitly linklemme guess, it's an article where the writer speculates the price is ginna be high just cause he feels its gonna be high?
>>725942246STOP HARASSING ME!
>>725937912This but unironically
>>725942971That would suck so hard, 720p gameplay on the big screen in 2025.
>>725937671Rumor has it at 600,-. Which would be 100,- more then a ps5 with 2/3rds the power, with no optimization and NO physical games, not even something like a gamekeycard.On paper anything pc gaming sounds terribleT.4090 fag
>>725938005If Valve was smart, they would adjust pricing and only sell at a loss if you had a valuable Steam account.
>>725937381I'm expecting 1200-1400 USD, will it be higher than that?
>>725941403Underage
I'm buying day if it's under 700
I just care about the controller.
>>725937381and that's a good thing
>>725942769steamcube is a computer, not a console
>>725937381>$999 US Dollars
>>725937874this lmaoit's not a fucking console, it won't be sold with a loss
Anything higher than $500-$600 is an instant bomb failure. Valve would be fucking fools to not undercut the current extortionate console prices. It's already been deduced the Steam Machine isn't even as powerful as a PS5Pro or XSX.
>>725938256it will be $999 so he's not far off
>>725938256I could see the steam frame cost 1k, but not the cube.
>>725937381https://www.ign.com/person/Jackiecobrawritten by a tranny who doesnt know anything about PC part costs, their research consists of looking up a PC build on PC part picker.moreslawisdead is another random guy pulling figures out his ass but at least he used to estimate costs as a former job while autistically jerking off to PC parts 24/7. His estimate is closer to 450 dollars for manufacturing costs
>>725937381If it's too overpriced, then... What is the point?Nintendo fags won't buy it, they have their Switch 2.PC fags won't buy it, they already have a PC that runs games much better than this.So you're left with Sonyfags and Xboxfags, but I'm not sure they'll spend much more on another console when they have the brand they are already used to.Yes, you can play your steam library, yada yada, but most likely these guys either don't have one since they only played on consoles, OR they also have a steam library, but most likely the appropriate PC to enjoy them.I also read that it'll revolutionize the gaming world, but... How?
>>725942971Doesn't make sense since you can already use deck like a pc-lite
>>725943926Getting the new console war talking points in early.
>>725943463But sony is ostensibly, by selling consoles at a loss. You cant release a unit 6 years after the ps5 release with a weaker gpu and charge more and expect it to sell well. Especially not with the ps6 releasing 1 year later at the same price point with massively superior performance.
>>725945245There is no point. It is a product for valve people.
>>725944931you don't know the first thing about steam do you?valve values linux adoption and proton use more than moneynot to mention this is targeted at people who are scared of conventional pcs and will result in fresh revenue on games
>>725937381Why is no one talking about the controller? Looks incredibly uncomfortable
>>725937381Higher than 1.2k?
>>725942454Yeah but they are exceedingly greedy, even more greedy than sony and microsoft if they stick to their word and refuse to sell it at a loss. Valve literally turned all their multiplayer games into casinos for children.
>>725945549>Looks incredibly uncomfortablefor handlets maybe
>>725945578ah yes, so greedy that they're doing absolutely nothing to fight piracy and maintain people's old steam libraries without trying to resell them their old gamesyou're talking about nintendo dumbass
>>725945536>valve sells cheap PC>companies buy it for workers because it's cheaper than other pcs with the same power and installs windows>valve doesn't earn any money on game sales and no more linux adoption
>>725943180Because consoles are a locked-down piece of hardware that are optimal only for playing games and the gabe cube is just a small prebuilt that can do other things
>>725945549people are using steamie decks just fine
>>725945748Literally all they need to do is price the device so they earn anything on it. If this supposed $450 production cost claim is to be believed by Basedtubers, then a $600 price point means a $100 profit margin on every Gabe Cube sold after mass shipping.
>>725945549fag
>>725945748in what fucking world is any company buying this and wasting man hours installing windows on it only for it to be an overkill optiplex when they could get actual office nucs that are cheaper and more cost effective?in what world is valve shipping so many of them to one fucking corporate address without questioning it?
>>725937381Everyday, the Switch 2 price is starting to look more and more reasonable.
>>725945430Sony hasn't sold consoles at a loss since the PS4
>>725945778and its target audience will not be doing these other things because using the desktop environment is secondary to using the default steam big picture mode and buying your games from therethey're not going to fucking pirate or play roblox on it
>>725945748Are you retarded?
>>725944931consoles haven't been sold at a loss since the ps3/360
>>725945885mlid is highly unreliable. he just makes shit up and people believe for some reason, even when he's wrong all the time.
>>725945778>implying normies are smart enough to use anything but big picture steam mode to buy and play games
>>725945980NUCs don't have a big GPI retard
>>725946141they have, you're not building a system around an rx 6700xt of the ps5 for its price because of all the other parts being used chinesium and it took until 9060xt to compete with the rx6800 of the ps5 pro
>>725945536>company doesn't value moneyBros how do I get a /v/ degree in finance?
Will you buy it if it costs $999?
>>725945980how could a corporate IT dept ever handle the gargantuan task of installing Windows?
>>725946008They were ahead of the curve. They knew everything major console and handheld would cost $450+
>>725946402I won't buy it because they advertised it with trannies
>>725946265nothing that an optiplex shitcan does will ever need gpus, all you do with them is basic office shit and internet browsing>>725946381valve is a private company with goals beyond making moneydo you legitimately believe that if anyone else was in valve's position they would just make all their shit free? or that they would've even took that risk to begin with?
>>725946008>thing that is more powerful than switch 2 cost more than switch 2Wow, so i guess the switch 2 is the best deal in gaming cause it costs less!
>>725946517>nothing that an optiplex shitcan does will ever need gpus, all you do with them is basic office shit and internet browsingYeah I don't know why I quoted you either
>>725946473the man hours spent on doing that will eclipse having that shit by defaultnot to mention support, you know damn well that having a contract with dell or whoever the fuck provides those nucs will actually help them as opposed to valve who would get infuriated seeing how you treat their hardware
>>725946613Okay cool, I'm not spending more than $500 on a console so I guess I'll stick with switch 2
>>725946402It's probably 499 if they want to go cheap.599 is more reasonable.699 is when they only want to sell it to a few big valve whale fanboys.Anything beyond that doesn't make any sense but we will see
>>725946517>valve is a private company with goals beyond making moneywhere do people get retarded ideas like this from?
>>725946752IT'S CALLED INFLATION YOU FUCKING ASSHOLEYOU ARE LITERALLY KILLING GAMING BY NOT BUYING VALVE HARDWARE
>>725946869>IT'S CALLED INFLATION YOU FUCKING ASSHOLEThe only thing inflation is good for is my porn tags
>>725946795real life? valve doesn't have shareholder obligations and every single one of their employees is paid handsomelythey're not minmaxing shit and blowing smoke to please some boomers that have no fucking idea what they really do like microsoft or sony or google or whoever the fuck
>>725942467can you stop posting the same fucking tranime eating a corpse gif
>>725946075The free market doesn't give a fuck about who your target audience is. It can be used to do things other than playing games, so if it makes economical sense, it will be. Whether you like it or not it will be priced based on it's every use, not just the one you care about, either by valve themselves, or by scalpers
>>725937381pc niggers will say it’s worth $900 because they can emulate super Mario bros on the snes and play the latest unfinished wrpg made by one single slav
>>725947035>scalpersgreat idea, it's not like valve knows who you are when they sell you shit and see it end up on ebay or anything
>>725937381What you don't have $800 + $100 controller to spare? Poorfag.
>>725947035ok, order 100 gabeboys on steam retard
>>725940821>billions of dollars>slight tweaks to off the shelf parts
>>725937381>just get a joboh wait...
>>725940349keyboard? monitor? headphones? controller? mouse?
>>725946613wrong it's the goat ps4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imxYZYsFc9k&pp=ygUHbXZnIHBzNA%3D%3D
>>725937381Is /v the most doom pilled board on 4chan? Even on /pol the users aren’t as doom pilled despite every thread being a massive argument. Every thread in /v is about how it’s over, and if you think it’s not over, you’re a shill. I honestly think you guys need to stop investing so much energy into something like say for example this OP.What the fuck has compelled you to type any of this shit and for what reason?? Why are you even engaging in a thread like this? It’s obvious the only purpose for it is to be upset, why would you guys waste your energy here?
If it ends up costing the same or more than a powerhouse pc whats a good cabinet/prebuilt that would look subtle alongside my tv? it seems steam cube is half marketing this to women that want to hide bulky pcs in the living room.
>>725939237this nigger doesn't know what the fuck a BOM is
>>725937381Worth the weight... in gold.
>>725940964you weren't supposed to notice that
>>725937794There's multiple prebuilds that have the same if not slightly better specs for 650-750. If this is selling withing the next 6 months and Valve actually wants to sell the Cube they need to price it at 700 at most.>>725938256He's out of touch and has no idea what hardware sells for and what the market looks like. For 1100 you can get an Atomman G7 Pt which has 2x the CPU power, 4x the RAM and 1.2x the GPU power while being equally small. Which would be an infinitely better deal.This is not even mentioning that Valve said this will be marketed as an entry-level gaming PC. On almost all websites entry level PCs are 600-650.There is no universe in which the Cube is in 4 digits. It can be 650 at most.
>>725946293research it. modern consoles like the ps4 and ps5 sell at a minor loss for a few months and then it's all increasing profit year after year as the parts become more low end/obsolete.ps5 pro was hardly good value, same shit cpu with a mediocre gpu upgrade. you could almost match it for the same price.
>>725947617How is /pol/ reacting to Trump being a confirmed pedophile?
>>725937381The 512GB model will be $600, the 2TB model will be $900. This can't cost less than the Steam Deck or Steam Deck 2 since it would compete with those at lower prices. Steam Deck 2 is probably going to cost $500 or $550.
>>725937381My dream price is 450$ but I already know deep down it’s likely in the 500-600$ range which is…decent if not competitive with modern consoles thanks to the price increase.(It would make it slightly more competitive than the mini pc market, but not an outlier)
>>725947137Are you fucking retarded?>it's not like valve knows who you are when they sell you shitYup, it's not. They know the account, payment info and shipping info, all pretty easy to get fresh.>see it end up on ebay or anythingI'm sorry are they just going to sell one unit. Beause if not, they're not going to know which particular gabecube they sold is in an ebay listing.And if they did, so what? Reselling stuff you own is legal. An office buying them for work is not going to give a fuck the steam account they were bought with got suspended, they're just going to install windows over all that shit.>>725947275Okay order 1 retard
How much do you think the controller will cost by itself?
>>725948279five grand
>>725940964government handouts
Gib ControllerAnd make sure the response curve is perfectly linear
>>725947913>This can't cost less than the Steam Deck or Steam Deck 2 since it would compete with those at lower pricesIt wouldn't compete because it's not in the same category. A handheld is a lot more convenient and practical for a lot of games. It can't cost as much as the cheapest model ($420) but it can cost $500.The Steam Deck 2 is not even going to be released any time soon. They're waiting for their x86->ARM emulator to be 99% compatible with games. SD2 is most likely going to be an ARM handheld to get even better power efficiency and battery life. By the time SD2 gets released the Steam Machine will be at least half a decade old.
>>725948279Probably $70
>>725948469>They're waiting for their x86->ARM emulator to be 99% compatible with games. SD2 is most likely going to be an ARM handheld to get even better power efficiency and battery lifeHeadcanon
>>725948217no honest fucking soul on the planet is going to contest anti scalper clausesvalve knows your name and address and they can link it to your ip and the hardware id of the gabecube to notice the disparity and delay between you receiving the delivery and it coming online
>>725948880Their VR device pretty much confirms this along with everyone's criticism that the Steam Deck is bulky, heavy and has a shit battery life.
>>725946008I don't even have the intention to buy a Switch, but I guess Nintendo saw this coming.
>>725949120>bulky, heavyit's meant to be used on your lap where none of that matters and you just benefit from its great controller ergonomics>has a shit battery life.it's old and it was the first in its genreyou're not breaking any news here
>weaker specs>no controller>no screen>more expensive than a PS5Explain this shit to me
>>725946008lolnoshit sluggish ipsphone tier batterycheaply constructed unergonomic controllersand they have the most profitable insular ecosystem where they make first party money on every single relevant game they haveit's kikery of the highest order
>>725946956Dobson pls go
>>725949120>Their VR device pretty much confirmsIt's existence pretty much confirms that all the work on that proton ARM emulation was for this VR headset.Not for a Steam Deck 2.
>>725949494It ain't all about the specs, zoomie. Fuck your walled garden.
>>725947880He's not, he simply likes them young.
>>725938171so 500 dollars, thanks for confirming
did valve announce the price of the steamdeck at the same time of the announcement or was it also a wait and see?
>>725948595No way. The switch 2 pro controller is $90This will be $100-$150
>>725937381They already said it's going to be priced like a PC, so it's already +$1000, most likely around $2000-$3000
>>725948469Deck 2 is going to be a 6 core semi-custom Zen 6 and a 12 CU semi-custom RDNA 5.
>>725939753bot is broken
>>725950208doubt it. it’s cheaply made and lacks basic stuff premium pads typically have, such as anti friction rings
>>7259502490/10 bait
>>725937474how does this make sense? non-poorfags will just buy superior hardware for the same price if the gabecube is priced wrong. are you retarded?
>>725938980>green driveI'd pick a console over this
>>725950249That just makes you retarded for buying one.
>>725948469>Le magic ARM transition will save me!That's not going to actually move the needle anywhere near as much as you'd think it was. Everyone that the Apple transition to ARM from x86 was fucking magic when in reality it was a really, really a once-in-a-generation string of good luck>1. They hired really fucking amazing engineers for their chip>2. They were ready right and shipping while Intel was still stuck in their 14nm litho fans for years and years and they bought ALL the 5nm process from TSMC so AMD couldn't even get any for a few years out>3. Their previous Mac models they had released before that point were some of the worst they had ever madeThere's a reason why the ARM windows and Linux machines have been huge as flops. They can't get the talent to actually make them compete even with Intel, there's no return that would justify buying out a new node process from TSMC, and fundamentally they're just not that much better on the power side now that other fabs node sizes have caught up.The bulk of the issue is the form factor sucks from cramming a huge battery in like a laptop does and the screens are bigger and need more power to drive and need to always be on compared to a phone.
>>725937559Dude...I can grab a pre-built from BF deals @ 700/800 and be better than this box.The fuck!?
that thing will flop. just like the VR headset and the controller.
>>725945778you are a delusional retard if you don't understand how the vast majority of normalfags buying this will be completely locked into the steam ecosystem since they don't even know what linux is
>>725938171There's no input devices, the base version will be sold for $400, and the 2TB version $500.And no you can't scalp it since they will do the thing where you can only buy one initially if you have a steam account over 3yrs old.
>>725939753>Lord Gaben isn't scummy like others.lord gaben won't sell an open system at a loss, you fucking nigger
>>725950954valve gains more from the long term ramifications of the console than they would from making bucks up frontthey already have all the money they could possibly want
>>725950954the vast majority of consoomers will not learn arch, wine, proton and whatever else needed to play games outside of steam. they are virtually forced to use valve's services
>>725950208everything about the switch 2 is overpriced because NIntendo is a piece of shit company that charges 80 dollars for gamesValve controller will be 80 at most
>>725943180>you can't apply that reasoning to the steam machine because?because steam machines aren't locked down and any retard can buy one and never use steam, you stupid mongoloid>>725946075>>725946237>>725950773>>725951149>>725951175>b-b-b--bbut the target audience>b-b--bbubuut le normalfags>b-bubbubu le ramificatiunshzoomer fucking retards, the ps3 bled sony for almost a decade PRECISELY because it was sold at a loss and wasn't locked down, nasa bought them for CPU computing, tons of people bought it for a cheap blu ray drive player, it even supported linux, it was anything but profitable for almost a fucking decade because they made that mistake, if you think gaben and his 20 yatchs will give you a free steam machine and take a loss when even the steam ick on eck is overpriced as balls despite being 1\6th of the power you are BEYOND TRANS AND DELUSIONALbase machine will be 600-700, 2 terabyte model will be 700-800, deal with it or make sure you film your suicide once the price is revealed, do a flip too
>>725947632Minisforum UM790ProACEMAGIC F3A (spyware/reformat)
>>725950816>they will do the thing where you can only buy one initially if you have a steam account over 3yrs old.then scalpers will just use those million of trading bot accounts that are 10 years old from TF2 trading
>>725947863they aren't producing more though, they are just selling all the leftover stock from nobody buying it
>>725951335you are a dumb retarded nigger the cube can sell at a loss because it practically locks you into using steam unless you learn arch, which is something NO NORMALFAGS WILL EVER DOkill yourself faggot tranny
>>725951469>locks you>*installs windoze11???
>>725951525NO NORMALFAGS WILL DO THISyou are a lonely incel virgin with no contact with people outside the internet so you are clueless as to how little normal people know about computers
>>725939237>what is a profit marginValve is a private company and gaben doesn't have to convince a room full of kikes who can only see three months at a time the value of cornering a market over temporary profits
>>725937794You can build an equivalent PC at 600 dollars, and that's with inflated prices. Anything past that price point wouldn't make sense.
>>725951335>but muh ps3holy retard
>>725950954Intentionally selling consoles at a loss to get a presence in the video game market. That sounds like a scummy and deceitful practice Gabe would never do.Hmmm.... who would do something scummy like that? Oh I know!! every other game console would!!
>>725938726That's literally the price of RAM.
>>725951654He already did it with the cheapest Steam Deck.
>>725937381Ok, noted but if they make it too expensive it will just end the same way as the first one...
>>725951335you could already do all of this shit with all the ewaste that gets produced every single fucking dayno retard, that's not happening in the age of phone screen streaming to tvs and the insane performance of threadrippers and epycshell if any of your retardation was true and this basic hardware was that useful then how the fuck are consumer electronics even a thing when they mog pro hardware on price to performance so incredibly hard?
>Nintendo and Sony fans are screaming, crying and shitting their diapers at the idea of a gaming device that actually has games
Computers are always superior to consoles, but I didn't quite understand the purpose of the Steam Box. Is the idea to make a portable computer, in the sense that you can easily move it around (and not in the sense that you can play anywhere)?Or is the idea to sell computers to people who don't have any knowledge and just want to play Steam games in the easiest way possible?I don't think either case makes much sense. Anyone can buy a more or less decent laptop and that's it. It's not as if the idea of portable computers wasn't solved decades ago...
>>725937381>Falling for the Valve hardware memeHow do you faggots not learn?
>>725952107the upcoming controller is basically perfect and steam deck was so good that it made a new market
>>725952107The Steamdeck is godlike THOUGH
>>725952083It's meant for the living room. Probably for people who work on laptops and aren't interested in a desktop for games.
>>725952107The only miss I personally have had is the steam link and I only bought it cause it was 5 dollars.
>>725945000>$999 for something that performs slightly worse than a $450 PS5
>>725952107>doesn't realize the main purpose is to improve Linux gaming so we can escape from the horror that is Windows
>>725952352same
>>725952083The idea is probably to get console normies on the PC boatI've had so many friends and coworkers come up to me asking how to get into pc gaming, but they really want something like a console where there's one option, they buy it and plug it in and it just worksNone of them want to build their own, or sift through spec sheets they know nothing about on an overpriced prebuiltIf this is priced right it could open up a massive new market of pc gamers, all attached to gabe's own nipples
steam amogus
>>725940542YOU ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE. How many times do you retards need to be told this? The people who will buy the Gabecube are console dudebros who want to play PC games but dont want all that nerd shit associated with picking out parts, building it or choosing from 500 different shady retailers, installing 100 programs and patches. They want a pseudo console that you can press 1 button and it boots to Steam. All in a tiny form factor that fits on a desk in your living room. Thats who this is for. Not existing PC nerds who want to minmax their builds.
>>725938406Asmongold is closer than the average retard thinking it will cost like $400 and say that even $500 would be a ridiculous price for it
That will be $1000 plus tip
>>72594577895% of people who buy this thing will use it as a glorified console and only purchase Steam games
>>725952480So why would your made up dudebros not just buy a console instead like they always have?
>>725949937Answer the fucking question you elitist prick. If anything, the walled garden environment should make consoles more expensive than this weak little cube, not less.
>>725951175you can just install windows on the steam machine
>>725952605Because theres actually a lot of PC games these days not on consoles, or not on specific consoles.
>>725952605They all saw on tiktok that pc players get to play elden ring as an F-16 fighter jet and now they want a taste of the good life
>>725952431Another advantage is that the OS already comes pre-installed and it's not a bloated piece of shit like Windows.
>>725952695>installing windows on anythingif you do that Gaben will show up at your house and arrest you
>>725952480Eventually there will probably be a high end Steam Machine that would be worth buying for enthusiasts I think.
>>725952832no gabe is fine with it
>>725938256>tunnel rat who worships jeets and sucks at games
>>725952695but they won't, tinkering with your os is a niche thingthey just use whatever's shipped with the hardware
>>725952887I would easily play a 1000-1200 dollars for a high end steam machine, its a shame they're playing it safe right now but maybe they'll make a steam machine pro
>>725952887If this sells well I guarantee 1-2 years from now they will sell a higher spec version.
>>725952978normies wont, businesses will
>>725952832>>725952695literally why they will not sell it at break/even or loss
>>725952539>console-like drive with PS5 specs>PS5 costs 500 dollars with a controller You must be clinically retarded to think it will cost 1000 dollars.
>>725952605Because Steam has more games and will work better as a media device.
>>725952768Please name 5 worthwhile PC exclusive titles that dont have direct comparisons on consoles
>>725953048businesses won't be allowed to bulk buy them, valve cares more about having people use it than making money on itspecs like those are wasteful in a business environment when you could just buy 2 nucs for the pricestop spreading this cope already
>>725953227>WorthwhileThis is where I name some games and you reply with "LMAOOOOOO SHIT GAMES" right?
>>725953227>that dont have direct comparisons on consolesThat broken grammar is distinctively Indian.
>>725953294No like I genuinely cant think of like 5 modern games that arent also on console
>>725953278Do businesses even use desktops anymore?
>>725953478what do you think they use instead?
>>725953568Laptops and tablets unless it's something more intensive. Take note that I am unemployed.
>>725953478obviously, but they're minimum spec bulk made shitboxesno business is buying those things, first because they're too expensive and overkill for the job and second because valve isn't giving you tech support while any regular corporate nuc provider would
>>725953385I'll lower it to 3 examples if that makes it easier for you.
>>725952215>made a new marketSwitch created it. Steamdeck-likes existed before steamdeck was a thing.
>>725937474God I hate you faggots so much. Even people who are rich don't like poor values. How do you think they got rich, you fucking retard? Not by throwing their money away.
>>725937381No shit.They can't sell at a loss then rely on game sales to make up the difference like consoles.They have to sell it at a higher price point.
>>725937381It's going to be relatively high compared to the Steam DeckThey're tempering people's expectations, but my guess is ~$800, which isn't terrible for what you're getting. After all, it does double as a formal PC, and be upgraded to an extent and customize it.It's not going to win any races, but it's certainly not going to be something you're going to regret buying.
>>725953828It doesn't even make sense. What does "direct comparisons" even means? Games that are vaguely similar?
>>725953980>They can't sell at a loss then rely on game sales to make up the difference like consoles.thats literally what they did for the steamdeck
>>725938171Ram and nvme prices have jumped recently. Those aren't accurate anymore.
>>725938256what would a nurgle acolyte know about pricing.
>>725953894I think he is talking about the trackpads.
>>725953894the switch is the least original console nintendo ever made, stop the copethe 'eck created the mainstream market, no one gave or will give a shit about those weirdo chinkhelds
>>725954032>thats literally what they did for the steamdeckBullshit. I need to work at least a month for one.
>>725952083>>725952267He doesn't know what a living room is>Doesn't know the differences between a TV and PC monitors.>Doesn't know the differences between a Lazy-boy and office chair.
>>725953980Steam's entire business is selling games and mtx.
>>725951610How is there a prebuilt marker then? Not everyone wants to build their own pc.
>>725937381https://www.ign.com/articles/how-much-will-the-steam-machine-costtl;dr>i have no idea actually, i just feel it's gonna be high
>PCfags now love playing with a controller on overpriced underpowered prebuilts because of brandingOh how the mighty have fallen
>>725954303499 to me is the most that makes sense. It will be higher than that though. Maybe substantially so.
>>725954406we don'twe just know that consoles are such utter shit that there are enough refugees for targeted hardware
>>725954032You see the difference between an all purpose computer and a handheld gaming device, right?>>725954192There's no guarantee anyone buying a GabeCube will ever buy a single game or any MTX
>>725954017System sellers essentially. The original claim was that there were now "a lot" of exclusive games that would convince someone to jump ship onto steam. I'm asking what those are.
>>725954190I am guessing that living rooms aren't common in India and Indonesia.
>>725954406This will still be better than any console past PS2
>>725954506>we just know that consoles are such utter shit that there are enough refugees for targeted hardwarebut PCfags are the only ones that think this
>>725954576have you considered stepping outside of your consolecuck discord echochamber?
>"build a cheaper PC than the steam machine then!"I can build a much much better PC for $380. In fact this is pretty much my PC right now except I have a 5600X. I've been using to for pretty much 5 years now.All used parts except my PSU.If its not $400 its dead on arrival. 5700XT is more powerful than the steam machines 7600M which is essentially just a RX 6600 level performance. The 5700XT drivers still work out of the box because of the linux kernel and mesa, It's supported.
>>725954690I actually know people in real life and they are fine with playing on console
>>725942246illusion of wealth and success if one is able to afford it.
>>725954540>There's no guarantee anyone buying a GabeCube will ever buy a single game or any MTXwhy not? its a gaming machine. And no people are not going to buy it in bulk for non gaming things, Valve has anti scalping measures
>>725954212>How is there a prebuilt market then?Because vendors like scamming people.
>>725954759argue with anecdotes all you want, this isn't the ps3/360 era
>>725954406I play most games with a controller since sitting on an office chair for too long is bad for my health. TB literally died because of that.
>>725954540>There's no guarantee anyone buying a GabeCube will ever buy a single game or any MTXIt's a game device so people will probably buy games. Buying games on Steam is easier than pirating them.
>>725954542>System sellers essentiallyThat doesn't work as a direct comparison tho. Right now the PS5 and Switch 2 have basically three exclusives each, and they are not comparabl. Exclusives on PC are often competitive games like DOTA2 or niche stuff like Kenshi that's unlike any other game, or games that just haven't been ported to consoles yet.
>>725937381My wife is a clinical social worker who mostly works with teens. She had a client yesterday who was incredibly excited about the steam machine and described how it was a cube. She, who doesn't give a fuck about video games, told the kid about a cube shaped console from when we were teens and the kid went nuts excited, talking about the "gabecube".This one is hitting the youth, anons.
>>725954540Nobody is buying this thing as a replacement for a 'normal' PC. Anyone interested in having a PC for daily means, work, etc already has one. This is a pseudo gaming console. Its being sold to people who want to play PC games but larping as a small console they can have in their living room. Anyone who already games on PC isn't really going to buy this either unless they offer a higher spec version later on.
>>725954754Impressive savings. I assume the GPU is weaker than a 7600 tho.
>>725941081But Linux updates are fast regardless and your game likely already runs before you reboot for the update so you reboot whenever?> will probably not resume as quickly as the gabecubenot a given. obviously suspend-to-ram and hybrid ram-ssd resumes before the machine switches off are instant, the others don't have to be noticeably slow at least. it may not be optimal for everyone, but linux has a massive bag of tricks for advanced users if you start to care.
>>725954412It hopefully should cost less then a PS5/XSX considering it about as powerful as them (on paper less powerful than) and they'll be obsolete in 3 years. It realistically will cost as much as or more than a ps5/xsx. Any more than that and console fags won't see any value in it and then you are left with laptop gamer Giga Chads that don't want a home PC and PC fags that don't care about the lack of an upgrade path.
>>725938171>425they should sell it for 499 then>but they wont profitthey should sell it for 499
>>725955339>Anyone who already games on PC isn't really going to buy this either unless they offer a higher spec version later on.You are forgetting one thing, which is that a lot of people are playing PC games on laptops and toasters.
>>725955339> unless they offer a higher spec version later onI think that isn't ever going to be a good idea. It won't remain high end after all. And then was it a product produced in enormous volumes or not? Is the next product update coming out immediately? This is better left to modular computers as usual sold as parts in the current market.Steam will do best if they just provide the premade devices that provide/define the midrange.
Base model will be $500Base model with steam controller bundle will be $5502tb model will be $7002tb with steam controller will be $750Save this post.
>>725951335Imagine basing this much self worth on predicting the price of a piece of consumer electronics. Then again the very fact that you're arguing about it with this must investment on a tuvan basket weaving newsletter tells me you don't have anything better going on in your life.
>>725937381if isn't priced 999 im not boughting
>>725955393Valve is using an RX 7600M which is about 85% of a desktop RX 7600.That means the performance will be basically RX 6600 level which is basically a 5700XT.
>>725955339what i would like to see is valve and other hardware manufacturers tapping into the console soc supply from amd and using them to make those tight minimalistic pcs to bury consoles once and for all
>>725955801It doesnt need to be high end. Developers have received massive backlash this generation for poorly optimized games and are being bombarded with negative reviews and sales dropping off. If developers don't start catering to low end specs (like the Gabecube itself) they will go under like Ubisoft.
>>725954948>>725955128>>725955339A GabeCube doesn't guarantee sales ON STEAM though. Sure, it's the most likely, but not guaranteed.Other consoles guarantee subsequent sales on said console.
>>725955897>Base model with steam controller bundle will be $550nah, no reason not to take a hit on the controller and give it for free
>>725955952The worst optimized game this decade, MH Wilds was like their biggest selling product of all time. And the same people WILL buy the next MH game no matter what.
>>725955987normies aren't installing heroic to play gog and epic shit on thismost i can see is polymc to play minecraft and modpacks
>>725955952Yep. Just saying I wouldn't offer a high end model if I were steam.Just update the steam consoles every 2-4 years or whatever and make them midrange again, maybe some minor changes (idk, new display, TMR sticks) in between that don't really change anything for the game developers.Don't even try to offer the enthusiast/high end gamer PCs, gamers got them just fine and the market moves too quickly and the interests of the hardware makers aren't aligned like for making bulk midrange chipsets.
>>725955987Without sounding mean, the kind of person who is buying this product is the kind of person who treats it liked a closed source console. They will boot it up, auto open Steam and only play Steam games. That will be like 90% of the people buying this thing I guarantee it. As the other anon said they 'might' do some shit like Minecraft but thats it.
>>725956057>MH Wilds was like their biggest selling product of all time.Game has no legs. World was actually doing much better on PS4 at the year mark
>>725955393Its not that hard just go on ebay for 10 minutes with returns accepted filter on and get deals. A mobo for $40 off, ram for $25 off, SSD for $15 off.IDK why people think building a 1080p gaming PC is hard, its literally cheap as hell. You can even put in a fucking RX 580 which can play elden ring at 1080p60fps medium/high and you can build a gaming PC for $230 but you'll still have to buy a monitor for $100 like a pixio.
>>725937559if valve really wants to be serious about making inroads in the console space they have no choice but to price competitively, probably a tad higher than a standard ps5 but below a pro
>>725956159Well thats what I meant. They will offer a new one in like 2 years from now with better specs. I don't think ill ever buy this base version one though.
>>725956057Funny to specifically call out MH Wilds, Digital Foundry just today uploaded a video showing if you use mods to decompress all the textures you gain like 15-25fps on 8GB GPUs making it not drop to like 15fps in moving around loading/streaming assets
>>725956265They have to price it at $450-500 otherwise its not going to sell well.
>>725956296Problem is the devs arent fixing their games, modders are. I'd rather just not support the product even if its a series I love.
>>725937381Less than 1000€ and I'm sold.
>>725956009>nah, no reason not to take a hit on the controller and give it for freeDo you need the touchpad to navigate steam os? Because I already own 4 PC ready controllers and I don't see myself using the touchpad for gaming.
>>725956009Nah, with the way of the market trends, that's basically net 0 of production/ shipping by the time it launches. It's a fair price that would still get them fuckloads in software sales. Plus, selling the base at cost but selling the 2tb at a substantial increase is smart because the plug and play crowd will buy "the best one" while tje PC crowd will buy the cheap one and upgrade it themselves.
>>725956272It'll again be a base model in 2 years? Maybe something like 48GB RAM/16GB VRAM which isn't even beating the current upper midrange/low high end, but it probably won't have to be much more even in 2y to be adequate midrange.The high end in 2y is probably well over 128GB RAM/48GB or more VRAM.
>>725955405game updates, anon
>>725937381It's gonna be cheaper than you think. Why do you think they opted out of current gen GPU chips? They obviously got some old stock for cheap.
>console normies are going to switch over to Steam Box so they can play the PC games they're missing out on, like... uhhhhh...it doesn't even play the biggest normie games
>>725956296Why in the HELL should you upgrade a PC when doom eternal runs at 1080p120fps high/medium on an RX 580The problem isnt the hardware or that PC gaming is expensive.Its UE5 slop playdoh graphics that nobody plays anyways that artificially make new GPU's valuable. Sorry but an RX 580 is literally still viable in 2025.https://youtu.be/wVhbbSdFR5s
>>725956515you currently don't, it's just useful in desktop mode (if you don't simply switch to kb/mouse which really isn't a huge deal now with gaming capable and/or long battery life wireless connections)
>>725956515No, you can do everything with any controller but I did have problems with my Xbox elite 2 constantly dropping with my steam deck. I have had 0 problems with a duleshock 4 or a duelsense AND you can use the touch pad for mouse inputs
>>725956515>Do you need the touchpad to navigate steam os?regular game mode? no but they're fucking great for desktop mode, i find their size annoying on the deck since they contribute a lot to the size of it but should be fine on a controller
>>725956403agreed 100%, just thought it was humorous that was named specifically and just got fixed by the communbity for 8gb gpus like the Steam machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBHits8JPI
>>725956619they're switching for the service and functionality you fucking oafflip this question around, why would you want to stay on console when all you hear is praise for steam?
>>725956589I think you're a bit out of touch with what people own or need. No game will ever need or justify over 32GB ram 12-16GB VRAM. If they make a new model 2 years from now It'll have 24GB ram and a 12GB VRAM card.
>>725956661Because newer games look better and require better hardware than this ancient ugly boomer game?
>>725956613the only issue I see is that this doesn't have 10, 25 or 40gbit internet at the moment so that might make game updates a little slowerstill even at 1gbit it's not bad. people using desktop steam never had big issues, you can update or install all other games in the background and if it's exactly the game you wanted to play I guess you lose a bit of time.... but no nearly all updates are huge
>>725956661>https://youtu.be/wVhbbSdFR5s [Embed]>eternalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn6-xSYsN4Imonster hunter wilds also runs like shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8TNLD523Y>but it's 60fpswith upscaling, frame gen mods to remove downgrade the environments and graphics and a shitload of input delay
>confirmed to be priced like a pc rather than a console>PS5 pro costs 749>Series X costs 649Dead on arrival. Another valve flop lmao, classic Gaben.
>>725956746>service and functionalitywow it plays games just like a console
>>725937381If they're trying to break into the 'couch gaming' market, they should be releasing a beefed up steam deck and sell it with a dock and a controller
>>725956882ahh yess, new games like awoked with graphics like these look totally better than elden ring or doom eternal, right....
>>725957140An entry level PC with these specs (or better) can be bought or built for $700 easily.
Just use GeForce Now... gaming hardware is a scam
>>725957227So are you just not gonna play any new games from now or except pixel indieslop?
>>725957180it plays more games and you're not dependent on someone else telling you you can't play newer or older games because they need more moneyit's literally a console without the limitations that force people to upgrade, you do it because you want more performance
>>725956775I actually think the generative AI stuff will start to be in games in ~2, at most 4 years. LLM / TTS for dialogues and NPC talk in RPGs, or even the game mechanics of ingame items. Or perhaps it generates waifus and porn scenes on the porn games.Besides gaming companies and modders often find uses for RAM/VRAM and powerful computers, they just can't target the minimal requirements there.
>>725957194people have literally been buying steam decks to perma dock and begging for a computer because they're too retarded to search "mini pc" on amazon
>>725957284This unironically. Instead of buying a $1000 card (just the card alone), pay $20 a month across 5 years. The con is that is turns all games into online only though. But the pro is that you perpetually keep getting ton of the line parts.
>>725957321All my games run fine on my RX 580 and are over 120fps if its not woke UE5 slop that I wont even pirate. I just repasted it too. Good for another 5 years.
With the specs for the base model of this being at a $600 range, you better prepare for the Steam Deck 2 hitting $500-$550 in 2028 with some sacrifices.>LCD over OLED>16GB of RAM over 24GB>256GB of storage over 512GB>Wi-Fi 6E over Wi-Fi 7>entry level semi-custom Zen 6 and RDNA 5 with significantly lower core count and compute units over its competitors
>>725956746The steam deck has sold less units than the Wii u, that is the type of install base you are speaking of.
>>725956962Doom dark ages is woke. The developers went wokeImplementing raytracing, upscaling, or any other meme tech that no one likes besides just good graphics settings and MSAA/FXAA/None is WOKE.
>>725957546this is what you tendies always circle back to isn't itimpossible to have a genuine conversation with you people since you filter everything through approval of your hivemind
>>725957275Most mini pc with those specs cost around 1.5k, asus rog nuc 979 for example
>>725956746Console users dont even think about Steam. PC gaming is still a tiny blip on the radar.
>>725957546steam has 70-75% of gaming's market share, just on more than one piece of hardware
>>725957546>The steam deck has sold less units than the Wii uyou literally do not know how many have sold because valve doesnt publish stats
>>725956962Good thing I dont play any of that un-optimized flopped slop. Thats why they failed no one bought them LMAO. They flopped just like outer woke 2.
>>725957797This feels made up
>>725957792the only thing that MIGHT make steam seem smaller is smartphone "gaming", which can arguably be put into a different market (gambling on non-gaming devices) from the hobbyist "gaming"
If it's less than 1k I'll take it, even the base 512 version. I don't have an option of getting a fullscale tower PC right now, building an SFF myself sounds like a pain not to mention expensive, laptops suck ass and are also expensive, I'm not in the market for PS5 or XBOX since I have a colossal Steam library (of actual games, not bundle fodder). It looks perfect for my specific case.
If the Gabecube was going to be a reasonable and enticing price, don't you think they would have announced the price yet instead of keeping us in suspense?
>>725957913It sounds like you're just making up random excuses for being poor and having a shitty old rig.>I wont support this engine!>Or these devs I used to like!>Or this game because of this gay npc!>Or that game because...
>>725958019They cant lock in a price between of current 'reasons' created by the retarded U.S. administration.
>>725957954132 million monthly active users, 69 million daily active users, 10.8 BILLION USD sales revenue, 118k games selling on the platform (obviously of vastly different quality and success, nevertheless obviously game developers WANT to publish on steam)
>>725958148because*
>>725958148So you're saying the price won't be reasonable and enticing and they'll use 'muh tariffs' as a cope?
>>725958062Sorry but I wont even pirate woke raytracing, upscale, rerelease woke SLOPMy RX 580 plays all the good games still like escape from duckov and Shadows of Doubt
>>725958252I think it wont be as good as people want it to be and it'll not sell great. Im expecting $700 for the 512 one and $800 for the 2TB ones.
>>725937381>IGNClickbait.
>>725952605he just told you you fucking idiot
500 dollars or its DOA, shrimple as that
i'm more interested in availability outside the US, do you think us yuropoors will get it at the same time?
Why should I buy this instead of assembling a PC myself for less money, more performance and more control about what I run in it?
People can bitch all they want about the base model of the Steam Machine being $600 but this is going to look cheap when compared to the PS6 which could end up being $700 or more, and the next gen Xbox which will be around $1400. If you want me to be serious with you, I believe handhelds are taking over.
>>725958382all he did was pull an answer out of his assconsole dudebros aren't looking to switch to PCs
>>725958708>bitch all they want about the base model of the Steam Machine being $600My guy, this is the best case scenario. We're cautiously expecting like twice that.
>>725957416>What is latency
>>725958530Yep. You can build the same PC without the form factor for $350 with some deal hunting and install steam OS.If its not $500 or below its dead. $649 is probably what they'll try.
>>725958682While I'm not sure your own PC will be cheaper at release, you shouldn't? It's probably other people that don't want to build a PC.Valve indicated they won't take control over what you run on it and they haven't on Steam deck, it just has SteamOS preinstalled but if you want to drop Debian or Arch on it I think you can.
>>725937381Let's play some game theory here:This product is targeting people with a potato PC with worse specs than the cube, these people will buy it only if the cube is cheaper than upgrading their potato PCs.Price will be the deal breaker of the cube.
>>725958907It increases it by a trivial amount that nobody even notices or cares about outside of competitive fps.
>>725937381If you think it's going to be less than $1000 youre delusional
>>725937381If it's over 1000usd it's game overThanks ai thanks trump thanks Jews thanks Bitcoin thanks Nvidia thanks apple thanks vaccines pod people
>>725954754>assrockkek stopped reading there
>>725937381They're going to bundle it or else it'll be snatched up by people/corps who are in the market for mini PCs and don't care about games. When Valve has a big enough dick to wave around it can sell it at a reasonable price without bundling, but it can't do that now when it's just trying to strongarm Microsoft out of the market.
>>725959650People who are in the market for mini PCs aren't going to care about an overpriced non-portable laptop.
>>725959314on /g/ and /v/ pc gaming master race breads it's like thatin the general consumer market... you know how few upgrade their laptop or PC at all? if this is nice, small, and offers an effortless upgrade where they know they can finally play black myth wukong that they couldn't play before... most will buy this vs figuring out what hardware upgrade might get them there and how it is installed.
>>725959765The bundling is what's going to make it overpriced. You're going to have to buy a controller to get the Steam Box.
>>725958682you're not the target audience
>>725937474The fact that this was the first post is disappointing
>>725959850>You're going to have to buy a controller to get the Steam Box.Well no fucking shit. They're marketing it as a gaming box, of course they're going to sell it with a controller (included in the price). This is why the controller receiver is built-in too.
>>725937381Build your own, fucking retard you!
>>725944991God I love orenji>>725945165Valve has said that Frame will cost no more than an Index
>>725945245The Machine is an upgrade to 70% of Steam users is what I'm hearing from Valve.
>>725959327Mindless mouth breathers don't notice you mean.
>>725961353Yeah but this data is obviously skewed by third worlders, most of which the product cant even ship to. I wonder if they took that into account.
>>725961383Bro all my friends who have played games (predominantly on PC) for decades dont know what their latency is on games, how to find it and some dont even know what it is.
>>725946381You are applying public company moral to a private one. A public company cares only about money. A private company is still beholden to the morals of its owner.
>>725961481watch it you're arguing with a 500 pound male. he can run out of breath any second
>>725961525yes the morals of the guy who just bought a half billion dollar yacht
>>725945980Are you underage or have you just forgotten?
Slightly off-topic: how problematic is the issue of drift with the Steam Deck OLED? Preferably asking those who have the device and have used it for around 1000 hours or so.Thank you.
can anybody tell me a single reason to buy this when its literally just a glorified pc?
>>725961867are you retarded enough to believe anyone is stringing gabecubes together when threadrippers and epycs exist?
>>725940964HR cartels giving them jobs where they sit around on xitter all day and earn six figures.
>>725961481>Because I'm a retard and all of my friends are retarded it means everyone else is too!!
>>725961941>its literally just a glorified pcbut anon that IS the reason, it's a no fuss no hassle prebuilt
>>725961802The same guy who is investing heavily on Linux just to give the middle to Microsoft when not a single public company can do the same
>>725961782Projection
>>725961941if you have to ask you're not the target audiencemost people on this board aren't unless they're poor or lazyhow many times do you people need to hear it
>>725962053Depends entirely on its cost, retard.
>>725962094>it's a no fuss no hassle prebuiltso... a regular prebuilt that you have been able to buy for the past 20 years? what is so unique and special about this one?
>>725962072I think you're just out of touch with the average consumer.
>>725962307>what is so unique and special about this one?small size, preinstalled steamos, bundled controller (literally just buy launch and play) and hopefully competitive price
>>725962307Its prebuilt >In a tiny form factor that normally costs way more, designed to sit on your table in a living room>Designed by an actual gaming company and not one of the countless shady Chinese owned prebuilt sites>Has its own custom OS that can just boot straight to Steam, emulating a console experienceThis isnt for PC enthusiasts. Its for console people who want a dip into PC gaming.
>>725937381you can't build more powerful PC in that form factor under $800, it's impossible
>>725939237>profit marginAre you stupid? Valve is doing this to push linux and are happy to sell this at the break-even point.
>>725962587ok so its retarded and for retards but its at least less retarded than consoles so if it means less consolefags in the world, then i guess ill support people buying it.
>>725962635Observe: >>725954754
>>725961802>yes the morals of the guy who just bought a half billion dollar yachthow does the dude buying a boat affect you negatively other than flexing on your broke bitch ass?
>>725962681>Valve is doing this to push linux and are happy to sell this at the break-even point.Your uncle works at Valve?
>>725962692Yes. Its intended to get console players into PC gaming without all the 'intimidating' factors of having to pick out parts, build your PC, shop from countless different retailers and install an OS/apps. For all intensive porpoises its a PC console.
>>725937381>shitass clickbait article title works even for 4channersI thought we were the smart ones bros...
>>725937474well richfags are just gonna get a normal pc
>>725962823ie allow women to become 'pc gamers'
>>725939283>BBC News Pidgin.pngPost hand anon
everybody knows there is no way it's as cheap as the consoles
>>725962231dumb niggerbest xeons of 2013 aka giving them the best case scenario, had 10 cores for $1700 per chipnow threadrippers have 64 much faster cores for $5kthe cost of chaining and linking up all that shit is legitimately not even fucking worth it
>>725962746you're right then Gabe doesn't care about money
>>725962735that's a regular PC, not mini PC
>>725939608>$100 GamepadThat's retarded. Nobody but the most cultist of Pcbros will buy it that pricepoint.
>>725938904Assmongold started that rip off operation Starforge PCs so of course he wants things priced really high
>>725963298>Volvodrones is fintered to PcbrosI respect that
Who is this for?
>>725963215>that's a regular PCNot really, it's a mini tower. Still smaller than your standard desktop.
>>725950816>they will do the thing where you can only buy one initially if you have a steam account over 3yrs oldThat's immensely fucking gay if they do that.
Nothing gives a girl an ick like someone carrying out their full sized PC tower to the living room. This is for normalchuds who want the console experience but with PC games.
>>725963459still 4x the size of the GabeCube
>>725938171You know, it might be 500 dollars because this is Valve's biggest chance to checkmate Jeetdows cripple console market with the Gabecube. Selling it with a very attractive pricetag even at a loss, means that Valve will a) make normies completely forget all about Xbox and b) showing them an alternative to Windows by introducing them to linux via this ""console"". Furthermore, since Steam has the biggest library of games and profiles can be carried/used across every pc and valve console, normies who will buy the Gabecube will stay on Steam and buy more Valve peripherals in the future. And this is the biggest win this new console will ever bring to Valve in the long run. Its a total market domination, and this kind of thinking does sound like Valve, since Valve is probably one of the few game companies that like to think ahead of the curve
>>725962746Not a single handheld manufacturer has been able to come even close to Deck's price with an x86 CPU. I think it's pretty safe to assume they have no profit margins on the device itself.
>>725950816>they will do the thing where you can only buy one initially if you have a steam account over 3yrs old.This is illogical because the target market for this is blatantly console players who dont play PC games yet
>>725939283It'll be $600, in terms of selling at a loss from Sony and Microsoft, that's pretty much coming to an end. Both will be selling at a profit going forward as well. We'll see this with their next generation with a $750-$800 PS6 and $1400 next gen Xbox. The PS6 handheld will most likely be $600 while the first party Xbox handheld could range from $800-$900 while the Steam Deck 2 is $500-$550 and the Switch 2 is $450. Nintendo and Valve will have Sony and Microsoft beat on pricing, it's over.
>>725963678Size isn't everything.
>>725963459we'll see. gaben wasn't greedy when setting steam deck's price but I don't expect the box will go under $600 with controller included in the current state of world economy.
>>725937381Why does anyone with a pc give a shit? This is clearly for dumb consolekiddies to get into pc gaming. High price/inferior hardware is kind of their jam so why not do it with this shitty thing
>>725963123My point wasn't that some company will create a supercomputer out of the gabecubes. My point was that if a company sees that they can buy a small computer cheaper than another company, they will buy it.
>>725963897>with controller includedI really hope there's an option to get it without a controller, but I don't see it happening. I already have a perfectly fine controller working with Steam, I don't need another one.
>>725963707on the deck sure, even tho there was the Ayn Loki Zero for 220€ but it was pretty weak with an Athlonbut it seems like they wont do that with Cube if we believe what LinusCuckTips was sayinglots of fags using the "a company could buy 10000 of them" defense as if Valve couldn't just limit accounts to 2-3 per person
>>725963757Tell that to the midget who can't reach the top shelf
>>725964121there are literally zero usecases where this will be worth the moneyit's too strong, too expensive and unsupported for office shit and not worth bothering with for cpu or gpu heavy workloadsif someone had use for consumer hardware like this then every single cost effective cpu and gpu would be wiped off the market and intel wouldn't be going bankrupt with their e core shit because that's precisely what they'd want
>>725963707Sorry, this was meant as a response to this>>725962773
>>725964261Valve giving purchase limits is a perfectly valid response. I still stand by my statement that companies will abuse hardware sold at a loss, but Valve can just say no.
>>725965148but you're also just making everything up
>>725953974Anon thinks that all rich people just inherited their wealth like he did, so if you're not wasting your money like an absolute retard then you're a poorfag!
>>725965427We all are, until Valve actually announces the prices.
>>725965578Technically everything vidya related is "wasting your money"
>>725965578The vast majority of current day wealthy did inherit it.
>>725962927bitches have disposable income too, probably even more in hand than men
>>725953227any fps
>>725951590How fucking hard is it to understand that the problem isn't normalfags individually buying it and not using steam, but corporations doing it en masse
>>725966168how fucking hard is it to understand that valve wants actual people to play on this thing and that there's no fucking scenario where the gabecube makes sense to buy?see>>725964506
