Which way Deltarune newcomer fan?
imagine giving a shit
Non binary isnt a thing outside of rare genetic disorders, it's not a fashion statement. Stop letting people gaslight you into supporting a harmful ideology.
Dess rapes Kris.
>>725950159>>725950463Calm down OP
>>725950159The real crossroad was Faggot and Normal person and I'm going to let you guess which one leads to being a Detlarune fan.
>>725950159Kris is a boy that the monsters call "they" because none of them have seen a girl human and can't tell.
why is every internet community like this nowadays
>>725950159How big is Kris' willy
>>725950727Smaller than Berdly's
Left, but with specific justification that Kris is hiding his/her true gender in order to manipulate who's getting which role in the prophecy.
>>725950159Why the fuck are young adults and teenagers so fucking obsessed with this shit holy fuck there's no way we were that insufferable when we were younger were we?? What's the millennial equivalent to pronoun faggotry?
>>725950463You do know that Toby himself is a gigafaggot, right? The most obvious reading of Kris is that he's queer. Doesn't mean you have to like it or that you have to refer to him as non-binary (I sure don't), but pretending that Toby is somehow immune to fag ideology when he has given clear ad undeniable signs that he isn't is nonsensical.
>>725950159Kris's gender is MY/BITCH and I'm gonna toss my used up bitch aside as soon as I get my vessel back
>>725950727She doesn't have one
>>7259507273.5 inch hard
People that haven't played Undertale or Deltarune will honestly scream at you that shmorpus the human is TOTALLY [Identity] because they're gay.
>>725950875Bad meme because he is not in fact 2 niggas
>>725951102He's a boy because he does stereotypical teenage boy behaviors fof the entire game and is doing something stupid and risky for a dead girl which is not something any girl would do.
>>725951273Gay
>>725951390No U
>>725950159It's the left, but anyone with a brain knows he's a boy.
>>725951757I think girls have a harder time registering that he's a guy because some of the things he does that make it clear he's a guy are behaviors or situations that teenage boys specifically hide around girls.
>>725950874hippie and beatnick culture was as hated by boomers, just look up any opinions on them in classics like 'Married with Children" "Roseanne" or early "The Simpsons"
>>725950915Is there any evidence thats he's a woke faggot other than supporting BLM like 6 years ago and writing Undyne/Alphys? I don't think he even openly supported trans rights even if one of his animators is a troon
>>725950963Now that i think about, what if its a double whammy and SOUL is also non binary fag who doesnt want to be controlled by a player?
>>725950159I knew before I even clicked the thumbnail what this was going to be about.
>>725951757Toby obviously used Kris as self insertion as well as reference to male messiah (CHRIST-mas/KRIS-mas) and is most likely going to transform into TItan/God of Deltarune. But since he wanted Kris to be relatable to roasties he made him also wear nurse outfit and ribbons
Opinion on Carol?
>>725952610its an anti left message, tho
>>725952582I have seen at least one theory where thats the case, moreso if you count the dess soul theories, but theyre all dogshit that make the story worse because its just two kris and exists to mock people who play the game how they want to more
>>725953080I mean, if Kris or Gaster or whatever will talk to Soul it means it just talk to character and not literally to US the player. So it depend if the game treats Soul as the vessel creator name. If not, then both Kris and Soul might do 4th wall breaking like Chara
>>725950159
>>725950159kris is a boy
All I know is I can piss of any deltatroon fan by saying he for kris.
>>725953335I mean I have in fact seen at least one theory where the Soul is it's own being that will split from our control and act against our will, specifically on weird route because fuck you for not playing the game the way we want you to. If the soul is anything more than the player's personal avatar/control center, potentially even the same one we used in Undertale, then its shit
>>725952857anti left would be>kris is boy>vs>incoherent scribbles wall of text
>>725952857It's a blatant false flag.
>>725953631it would be a chud take, you wont convince normies to reject the far left troon with this argument. We have to fight back to retake this fandom from tumblr before chapter 5 drops
>>725950874Most people are attention seekers, predatory tranny groomers take advantage of that and give them "attention" long enough to brain wash them into their cultist ideology. Not the first people or group to do it and won't be the last.
>>725950159>(Omega) Flowey taking control of your save file, editing the intro, and renaming the game to Floweytale>Chara outright BTFO'ing the whole game word and permanently tainting the save file>Chapter 4 Weird Route where the Soul teleports to the dialogue box from the ventsWhat meta moment could Toby possibly do to surpass these?
>35th gay gender discussion of the weekTOBY!!! We need a newsletter, Toby!
there is no reason to ever engage in one of these arguments, it simply isn't possible to change someone's mind via internet arguments when it comes to this kind of thing
>>725954234Dear reader. I have decided to delay chapter 5 to 2027! Please take this shitty vtuber collab as compensation!
>>725950159If it was actually important to Toby, he could've come out and said that they/them are the only acceptable pronouns for Kris. As supposedly woke Toby is, he would jump at the opportunity for such a juicy bit of virtue signalling. The fact that he hasn't supports that it's not his intention, or he doesn't care.
>>725954225Fight with Kris in the light world where we dodge and get him to hit himself by menuing around in real time
>>725954342wdym don't you like participating in ragebait
Why was this older teenage girl playing pretend with a human little boy?
>>725950159Real path UNA VELA
>>725950159Frisk - FemaleChara - FemaleKris - Male.
>>725950159>DeltatroonFox is a trannylover so without a doubt the rightmost is correct.
>>725955098I personally prefer Chara when it comes to mentally ill manipulative girls
>>725954234Best I can do until next month
>>725954225Toby going into your house dressed as Spamton when he detect you finish chapter 7, he beat you up and rape you with a dildo. You must figure out the message yourself
>>725954501For some reason, the gaslight on the internet is so fucking high, even Grok tells me that Toby was correcting the pronouns of Kris on stream and it means he agree with Kris as non binary
>>725957067Well that's mostly because LLMs are fucking worthless and there's a metric fucking shitload of garbage data erroneously asserting people reading what they want out of innocuous shit Toby's isn't actually saying.>See the noxious charafag screaming for literal months that his waifu did nothing wrong because Toby teased Asriel.
>>725950727Just barely under 6 inches. Just under 12 if girl Kris.
Chara wonnyYagikek losty
>>725957476We like our human women WITHOUT penises.
feminine kris (male) is peak
>>725957724He's STILL mindbroken over Toby's stream comments after literal months. Expected from a pedophile stalker.
>>725956948Nah, it'll be worse than that.Chapter 7 will release, but as soon as you enter it, the game window will swap to a pirated copy of game maker studio with a dialog box saying to make your own ending.
>Samefagging againThey're right about you, y'know. You're literally the exact same as the retards autistically shrieking about how Toby corrected Kris's pronouns based on shit that wasn't remotely said.
>>725958002I unironically think Deltarune's ending will be about (you) making it based on how much Toby is shilling that theme lately.
>>725958002but if you try making certain fights/party make ups he doesnt like the game will keep throwing errors at you until you do it the way he actually wants, like how he refused to let chara's name not win because under all his blustering he absolutely wants you to hear his story over your own
>>725958359>Yagipedo angry he got called out and is pretending to be a different guyKeky. Didn't even make that first post.
>>725958410Toby just didn't want Asriel’s emotional monologue ruined by Togore meme shit.
>>725950159Kris' identity doesn't matter. I, his SOUL, declare him male.
>>725958505Oh no totally, and you definitely just now didn't unintentionally admit to it by asserting you didn't make a post that was appended to the one you're replying to, which has no posts attached.Because you got too used to samefagging and did it instinctively.
>>725959025Nice armchair psychology but random people can also reply to you, half-wited ape
>>725958919Well then maybe he shouldve either made him always say Chara or not tell people they could pick the name and just stick with Chara. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too by telling his story while convincing you that your story is just as if not more important than his, but then people had a different story in mind and it fell apart instantly.He unironically pulled a "But thou must" in real life
Deltatroon
>>725959163Sure random people can reply to me, but if you weren't prepared to try and "prove" you weren't samefagging you wouldn't have made such an obvious mistake like being so blinded by rage you wouldn't even realize the post didn't assert any posts in particular belong to anyone.
>>725959025Shush, mindbrokenschizo, your falseflagging doesn't cover up the fact that you do the exact samefag tactics you accuse others of.
>>725959025You're such an easy schizo to bait that you announce yourself everytime, like getting mad someone said "Yagi lost" lmao.
>>725959370You replying to me is exactly the point, that was my first post in the thread and you're already accusing me of being a samefag. Your vendetta is plain as shit and has been for several years by this point, do you really believe people are gullible enough to not see through it?Nimrod.
>>725959163He is so pathetic that he says the same things every thread and always announces himself with his particular obsessions, like randomly getting mad at Chara and accusing others of samefagging, but he can't see how people notice him everytime.
>>725959252I assume Toby just wanted a quirky donation competition to incentive people giving their money, like the Sweepstakes. Freedom was always the one Toby wanted to win based on how long the silence ending took. I assume Chara winning was the same but things didn't work out for him so he had to intervene.
>>725959734Projection isn't going to get you anywhere when you drop 4 straight posts seething like that.
>>725960416It's still undeniably going completely against his whole thing about your story and your ideas being just as valuable. He's played games all his life, he has absolutely named important characters shit like "Dickhead" or "ASS", he shouldve known people would want to pick what they got the most entertainment out of. You dont get to tell people they have a choice, and then throw a hissy fit when they pick what you didnt and then rig the votes in your favor.No one wouldve been able to reasonably complain if he simply hardcoded Asriel to always use "Chara" so the moment wouldnt be ruined if it was that important, but he didnt because he was certain people wouldnt bet against him even when offered the choice to. Says a lot to me about how the ending of Deltarune will go if this is how he treats a small piece of "non-canon" dialogue for a decade old game
>>725957358the fuck?
curious how this one is allowed to stay up.
>>725961189It's really not a hard concept to grasp.Terminally online autists shriek over and over that Toby corrected Kris's pronouns on a live stream, an LLM meant to impersonate the statistically most likely reply regurgitates incorrect information because it's more abundant than a correct interpretation of the events that goes without saying and doesn't need literal years of narrative crafting.
>>725961138So can you actually put any other offensive in there and the game recognizes it instead of pussying out?Like TIT, FAG, SHT, FCK
>>725961586You cant end it in a G at all, and GAY offers no unique response, let that be your answer
>>725950159>deltarune thread>look inside>schizophrenianot sure what I expected
>>725961189You're replying to a thread schizo but it's one of the few times he's right. AIs just steal from public information, and lots of Xitterfans say Toby "corrected" Kris's pronouns even though he really didn't.
>>725961367It's another human gender thread and the pet schizos are already here, which is the janny's HEAVEN.
>>725961824Lady doth protest too much methinks.
>>725961138>No one wouldve been able to reasonably complain if he simply hardcoded Asriel to always use "Chara"I genuinely think that might be too complicated for Toby to do so he didn't bother. But I get what you mean, but I think Toby giving his own money to make his option win doesn't mean he's going to personally denounce your fanfic/interpretation. We have to wait and see.
>>725950159I don't care man I just like the characters and dance to the music
>>725962323I'm just glad Togore lost
>>725962318Idgi
>>725950435fpbp, why is the undertale fandom like this?
>>725962413Me too.
>>725962323>I genuinely think that might be too complicated for Toby to do so he didn't bother....too complicated, for the man who popularised the idea of the game remembering stuff even when you didnt save over it.Hell push that to the side, its fucking text man. Just dont make it ask for the player name, this isnt a herculean task
Neither.Kris is male, everything else is tranny copium
>>725952496The usage of non-binary pronouns (not just for the human, so you can't excuse it as an in-universe quirk specific to them) and the inclusion of homosexuality (not just Undyne and Alphys but Susie and Noelle and the pair of bara monsters in Undertale).
>>725962480you'll learn eventually
>>725962671Toby is extremely bad at programming and everything on the stream was basically just smoke and mirrors.
>>725963473I get that jannies don't get paid, I just don't know what it had to do with my comment.
>>725963480The fact he can code a sign that displays the text "Made by Spiders, for Spiders, of Spiders!" means he's perfectly capable of making Asriel's monologue just say "Chara" instead of using "\n[1]"
>>725951141one of them's black, and the other has a stupid haircut and a weird skin tone.Good enough for me.
Kris is male because the dynamic with Susie just works better that way. If anyone is "genderless" it's the mutt goat.
You've had a lot of dick (had a lot of dick)I've had a lot of time (had a lot of time)You've had a lot of dick Susie, but you ain't had mine
>>725961586TIT is the only one IIRC
>>725963854Maybe changing that dialogue would break the game, idk.
>>725950159Gay shota kris sex
>>725950159Why the hell would I need to engage with this discussion at all? The game doesn't.
>>725961586Honestly it's super underutilized, and because of console ratings expectations there's an unused scene for more explicit terminology that was repurposed into a "banned names" list.The actual whole podium scene is kind of underutilized in general considering it's basically the sole opportunity in game you as the player can directly communicate, but maybe that's sort of the point.
>>725950159>h-he is behind me, isn't he?
>>725950159wtf cares fiction doesn't have feelings
>>725950159Beat Undertale for the first time last week, then did some googling to learn more about the story and lore etc, and the fanbase is 90% gay furries?? WTF? Thought this was a mainstream game?
>>725964094Gremlin/Bully friendship works either way apart from the romance, and even then, that'd be right up Tony's alley. I think if anything it's the complicated brother feelings with Asriel that make Kris more likely to be male.
>>725965904yes, gay furries are mainstream
>>725966092I mean typically furries are bisexual, they tend to be prison gay because women (furries or otherwise) tend to be total freaks and that's no bueno in a peripherally sex related interest like furries.
>>725950159Neither.Kris is The Girl from the prophecy. She doesn't want to be chained to her fate so she stole the Cage's SOUL for herself and uses they/them to hide this fact.
>>725966212women should die
>>725965904The fanbase is infamous for a reason. I do wish more human enjoyers played these games, but what will you do.
>>725966270No, they should probably just be into more like, not heinous depraved stuff like beheadings and rape, or at the very least be willing to not discuss that in polite company.There's a reason fujos have such a bad rep and it's not just because they get teenage boys to do gay shit with each other.
>>725962901Brother in Christ. Using they/them doesn't mean he's non binary faggot as many of his characters simply don't have a gender. And including a possibly yuri between two cute girls is basic anime shit. By this point Ranma 1/2 is woke in your view
>>725958410>>725958919>>725959252qrd?
>>725964094She's like his loyal dog girlfriend
>>725966505>it doesn't countlol
>>725961367>>725962082In the janny's defense:This one doesn't use the Deltarune cover, it simply discusses Deltarune in the OP and provides some launching pad of discussion. The fact it's /vpol/ garbage ABIB adores and protects regardless is a separate thing.
>>725966063But imagine.
>>725966606she's more like a sister if anything
>>725967128The sister she never had instead of that asshole Asriel.
>>725950704Internet is all troons now thats why
>>725964148P.S.Mom and Dad this is SusieSusie this is my mom and dadNow show 'em them titties
>>725958410Nah the Togore bullying was based pure because it forced Toby to talk about his mommy unlike if Chara was a guaranteed win
>>725965059The game doesn't, Toby doesn't, but fandom outside of /v/ try to make it into 99% of the point. Like you literally can't be commenting or posting Deltarune theories or shipping on X unless you have Palestine, pronouns and trans flag in your bio, because everyone insist its a woke game like Hazbin Hotel or some shit. Meanwhile Toby tries to sell you a fanfic where you rape one girl or another is crazy for you on another route
>>725962082>Pet schizos>implying multiple>implying you aren't the oneShit like this is why the furfags are the only ones worth talking to.Or I guess what would you call a furry into susie?Scalefag?
>>725965904To be honest any game with anthros will have gay furries. 5 Nights at freddies is mostly it and it was made by MAGAtard
Kris use they because Gaster kr whoever js fucking with you to erase Kris's identity from yohr mknd and make it easier to fuse with him. He's censoring the game and Kris's action the same way you're doing it
This is the piece of evidence that destroyed my entire copium supply that Kris could be male and made me re evaluate everything else. It took me a while to accept it but I can't ignore the princess ribbon anymore.No son of mine would have dainty girly hands smaller than everyone else including the rapebait doe. If the glove doesn't fit you must acquit. >>725965059It actually does but not in the way most people see it yet.
>>72596655810th anniversary undertale stream, Toby hyped up the idea that viewers would vote on who the "Fallen Human"s name is, it even got to change mid playthrough, through a donation poll, whoevers name donates the most is the current winner. It was split between Chara, the canon name, and Togore, a meme. Whenever Chara was not winning, he would bemoan it. At random points Chara just had brickloads of money come in to steal back first place, he waited until Chara got first place to lock the poll for the rest of the run, and this was followed up by him making a speech about how what he has to say about the story doesnt matter as much as what you do as his justification for not exploring all the new areas exclusive to the stream, right before a new monologue from Asriel that expands on his feelings about losing Chara
>>725967791Good thing I'm on this website and not some other website, so that I don't have to deal with any such bullshit and can just talk about video games. Right?
I’ve fully accepted that kris is suppose to be “non-binary” and that all the “ambiguity” talk her is cope. But imagine how much autistic this fanbase would be if kris WAS explicitly a dude
>>725968036>right before a new monologue from Asriel that expands on his feelings about losing CharaIt was actually some lines of text implying that in the form of the god of hyperdeath Asriel could perceive outside the limitations of the game and being aware that this was a special 10th anniversary edition of the game.
>>725950159Of course the last thread gets autosaged but this shit stays up, thank you jannies, very coolI fucking love video gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8tyucJO2q4
>>725967904>To be honest any game with anthros will have gay furriesWhat about Sonic? It's mostly autists but no weird LGBT shit.Also, who the hell is Chara? I only did the neutral and pacifist endings, I don't want to kill literally everyone just for a couple extra scenes. Is it important for Deltarune?
Kris can’t be a chick purely because i refuse to believe that Toby would make Ralsei or ESPECIALLY Berdly fully straight
>>725967721Toby supporting the humans as girls was extremely based.>>725967791Thank you for posting the explanation. I had written an entire paragraph but I accidentally tabbed out of it.
>>725968334Catch-all name for The Fallen Human you name at the start of Undertale, it's not actually all that important.>Is it important for Deltarune?Nope.
>>725967128Noelle and Ralsei are more sisterzoned by her, though. She's more concerned about Ralsei being sad and alone or about Noelle being pushed around by Berdly and Carol than she is really interested in them in romantic way. With Kris she's doing girlfriend and boyfriend stuff like leaving an opened and used can of soda to indirect kiss or go on personal date to the lake or diner. Krusie has the most romantic tension. Especially in chpapter 4 when they kept defending eachother from threats and ended on that finale dunk against the Titan. Symbolism of that would be weird as hell if that was Kris with Asriel or even Dess, his actual sister stand in.
>>725967829There's two, you, yagipedo, and the Robertfag. You are right I should've used singular because Robertschizo hasn't been on recently.
>>725968471Isn't the MC named Frisk? Chara is some palette swap version, from what I found on Google they only appear in the genocide route, the final boss maybe?
>>725950727Bigger than you'd expect, but still smaller than Ralsei's
Frisk, chara, kris, all girlsall loli pussy
>>725967721kek, if we defeat the woke fandom on the internet and claim Deltarune like Warhammer as chud kino, we could have dozen of accounts posting cucked Noelle memes. Its funny that even Zootopia has more based fandom and its fully furry
>>725968618The game says "Name the Fallen Human", the big twist is it never specified which one
>>725968618>Isn't the MC named Frisk?Yes, The Fallen Human (in the backstory) and Frisk (Nigga what you play as) are named two different things.
>>725968461Meant last reply to this:>>725968036Oops.
>>725950463Non-binary is a thing. It's pretty cool. No matter what gender people assume you are, you get to act offended either way. It's great.
>>725968334>Also, who the hell is Chara? I only did the neutral and pacifist endings, I don't want to kill literally everyone just for a couple extra scenes. Is it important for Deltarune?The first fallen human. The reason Undertale happens, but unrelated to Deltarune. Probably.
>>725968461Our CUTIES!
>>725968598Here's the thing, I genuinely do wish this "yagipedo" as a singular person even existed, and they were the janitor's pet.Because if they were, it'd mean you (a singular retard) would be banned for screaming about them any time someone says you're annoying and this thread would be like 90% better, because people would actually be talking about the game.
>>725968341Ralei is the designated non-threatening dude who doesn't even try to get in the way.Berdly is a meme but he's also treated with a surprising amount of kindness in the story. Remember he personally slays Asgore/Rudy, he does not tolerate fags. When he talks about Kris he knows full well what she really is.
>>725968687>implying half the punished doe shit isn’t from r*dditThose transvestites have a fucking soulelle subreddit. I’d say you fags couldn’t out weird them if it wasn’t for the dess stuff
>>725968618Yes. Frisk is the MC. Chara is the first fallen human that looks like Frisk and was Asriel’s best friend.
>>725968334Nigga you missed out on some good bosses and the reason Undyne is so beloved.
>>725968882Its just phrase for normal white straight woke retards who wanted to become a part of LGBT+ but coudn't even lie about being gay, so they invented a made up gender thats basically just goes against traditional gender norms and nothing else
>>725969008Yagipedo... you are one guy because you literally have the same tells, like seething over Chara out of nowhere, using the same images, thinking anyone who posts humans, and schizoing out over "actually talking about Deltarune" when all you do is discuss off-site drama. Even in this thread at least 4 people called you out.
>>725969362*posts humans is the same person
>>725958410>>725959252>>725961138Toby saying basically nothing about his game for 10 years and then taking $5,000 out of his own pocket to deliver the message "STOP BLAMING CHARA FOR WHAT YOU DID ASSHOLES" is one of the most based power moves of all time and I cannot imagine what a colossal faggot you would have to be to get genuinely buttmad about it
Kris is male because Susie want to have half human half monster hybrid children with Kris
>>725969047why did he make him transition?
>>725969458>I cannot imagine what a colossal faggot you would have to be to get genuinely buttmad about itIt's literally the thread schizo that seethes over Chara and the stream in every thread.
Do you guys think we'll get a Carol boss-fight? Her katana feels like its teasing it but I dunno if we'll fight more lightners beyond Asgore/The knight if they count.
>>725969362Making a comparison between you and the retards whining about Kris being non-binary isn't "out of nowhere".You and "the three other people", all having the same mental illness, the same non-existent boogeyman, posting the same images every thread, and projecting this makes it obvious you're one retard.Even>"actually talking about Deltarune"Which isn't what I said is just another admission of you being some mentally ill samefagging retard with hyper specific grievances about people not liking you.
>>725966606>the bite in the end
>>725969651He made her detransition. Over 90% of "NBs" are confused tomboys hopping onto the latest fad.
>>725969458If you would actually read the posts never once do I say "Chara bad" as my actual gripe with the stream, I even say multiple times if he just made Asriel mention Chara's name regardless of the poll that wouldve solved my entire problem
>>725969818>Making a comparison between you and the retards whining about Kris being non-binary isn't "out of nowhere"That's exactly it. You made this retarded comparison several times in these threads against the boogeyman of a dude that believes "Chara did nothing wrong", which nobody actually believes. This and thinking everyone who dislikes you must be a samefag are the tells you are a singular schizo.
if I showed Kris to any normie out there, whether they play games or not, and asked them "is this a boy or a girl"99.9% of the time, anyone will answer "boy"
>>725969974 >No uGreat strategy retard, it's definitely worked the literal hundreds of times you've used it.
>>725969047Ralsei*
>>725969731Carol's katanas were just red herring to make her look like Knight. Asgore is the story boss, something else will be the bonus boss, probably FRIEND
POVyou go with your girlfriend on adventurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhd4x7D2wo
>>725970346Kris already has a girl-friendThe knight always slays the evil dragon in the end.
Any explanation from Toby why Ralsei was a nigger for entire chapter 1??Like everyone already could see he was a fluffy furry creature anyway..
>>725970482It has to do with Chapter 0 and Kris' save file.
>>725969921kris was born maleobviouslyotherwise she would be slutshamed
>>725970452Asriel need to return in chapter 5 festival to contain Dess and her shota tendenciesspeaking of which, imagine how fandom reacts when Asriel and Papyrus just randomly stand in the festival grounds as static NPC's and Toby didn't make any business out of it
>>725970186You are literally the one who used "no u" in your reply. Look, if you want to be less obvious don't act like a retard thinking it's one dude that dislikes you wherever someone says things that irritate you, yagipedo.
>>725970604She was born female and if you think she should be slutshamed for the abuse she endured...
>>725970638I could totally see Toby hand-waiving Papyrus' first introduction as some weird guy in a fedora with no immediate significance.
>>725970838he should be morbidly obese owo
>>725970654You literally started this entire retardation whining about this Yagipedo guy as a form of "no u" to being called (it was just stated there was one, you came in to cry and admit to being it) "charafag".Which you obviously are.Nobody knows who the fuck this Yagipedo guy who had zero relevance to the thread before you whined about his apparent existence here.You whine about off-site drama but you're whining about some guy that doesn't even exist in Deltarune or Undertale.
Wouldn't it be funny if we missed the festival?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhd4x7D2wo
>>725950159I want to be able to switch between girl and boy at will bros.... what do i do?
>>725971124just identify as a girl when you want and identify as a boy when you wantit's that easyhave fun :)
>>725968675Kris wouldn't be a loli, though. Frisk and Chara, fair enough.
>>725971081Would people still like the game if it was super woke on the level of Dustborn where racism and pronouns are mentioned every second line? I feel like music alone redeem at least 40% of the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53Ma5XodzL8
>>725950159male kris with nsfw with the female characters and female kris with nsfw with the male characters
>>725971242Agreed, Kris is the onee-chan.
>>725971275>male kris with nsfw with the female charactersbase->female kris with nsfw with the male characterscringeFemale Kris is for yuri.
>50% of fans mostly excited for lore and story in chapter 5>other 50% on shipping choices at the festivalI can't be the only one mostly excited for new songs. Just imagine the bangers for exploration and bosses. And maybe even RUDEST BUSTER drop?
Kris is a girl. The ambiguous gender shit is to hide the inevitable plot twist.
>>725970993Dude, I am not the guy who made this comment.>>725957724 lmao. The fact you get offended over being called "Yagipedo" and think there's some Charafag haunting you is literally the reason you are a threadschizo. You could complain about humanposters like a normal person, but your inability to do so is why you get singled out. You act as if people have a memory of a goldship and literally wasn't shilling the OC of the guy you stalk in this very thread.>>725956047
>>725968642Ralsei's at least 18 inches, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone bigger.
>>725971532Nigger what the fuck does a picture of Asriel have to do with any of this?
>>725971243Probably not but Toby isn't that kind of guy. Sure he likes writing about fags and shit, but he never does obnoxious shit like 'BTW TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS' ingame because he knows that stuff is just insufferable even if you agree.
>>725971610Asriel doesn't look like that and you know it.
>>725971504The people aren't ready for that one. Not even in this thread.
>>725971779>Short>Striped shirt>cowlickThat's Asriel.
>>725971243I love noelle so goddamn much. Post does
Is dess gonna be a weirdo?
>>725971275>male kris with nsfw with the female charactersBased.>female kris with nsfw with the male charactersOnly if the male character is ME (aka the SOUL aka the VESSEL).
>>725950159androgynous like a prepubescent we were all human once
>>725971909No, Asriel only has one stripe in his shirt and his face is completely different. Stop playing dumb, retard
>>725966265This is the most believable theory to me because this is the exact kind of japanese trope that Toby would lean on. Unfortunately it's also the least believeable one because it's the exact type of trope that would make twitterniggers seethe endlessly, and he knows it. They're already so hard-convinced that the game's story is purely to criticize YOU the player for playing the game, that there's unironically hardcore Deltarune fans who start grovelling and sobbing during the SOUL segment of Chapter 4 because they can only believe that they're the villain.
>>725969458A based power move would be if he took $5000 out of his own pocket to update the fucking game so Chara gets some actual screentime in the Pacifist route instead of being vaguely alluded to. It's not that hard to let Chara show up next to Asriel, being all cute with Frisk if it's "normal" pacifist and darkly alluding to the truth of what comes next in Soulless Pacifist.
>>725972367That thing has only one stripe on its shirt and it has a stupid owo face.
>>725972448I saw the theory brought up once when I was scrolling around for impressions and it gets so much vitriol compared to male Kris it's almost hilarious. They call it tranny erasure and bitch more about politics than the story implications. He has a single escape valve:The Vessel and SOUL is nonbinary by default because Gaster is a lazy POS who didn't bother with a gender option.
>>725972670That thing couldn't look different from Asriel if it tried, but the fact you think people are dumb enough to not remember your spam that lasted a month and the fact you are genuinely embarrassed from it to the point of denying your association with it but dumb enough to still post it is the reason you're our thread lowcow. Also baited you, Asriel has multiple stripes!
>>725961586Shit like FAG is explicitly disabled in the game but if you bypass that with hacks the game does actually have unique interactions for it where Tenna changes the name
>>725955815Of course you, tranny
>>725973392>Asriel doesn't remotely look like that thing>Posts a picture that looks basically the same
>>725968334I hate to burst your bubble but there is absolute LGBT shit in parts of Sonic fandom. The comics especially are a hotbed for that shit
>>725969705The thread schizo is the one who spams chara in every deltarune thread despite not even being in deltarune and being one of the least interesting and underwritten parts of undertale.
>>725971275Rainy…
>>725972646I would dislike that. Chara only showing up in genocide to mirror the fact we only see Asriel in pacifist is kino parallelism between the two which that would ruin.
Ok but what if Noelle was black or Chinese
>>725973643Yagipedo, you literally just got BTFO right now by denying your spam even in this thread and pretending that the OC you post is Asriel. Plus this is literally a human gender thread, dude.
>>725973643> In a humanfag-topic-oriented thread, but STILL moans and complains like a sissyBITCHThe highlight of human stupidity.
>>725971504that's noellekris' hair isn't like that
>>725974393fuck i meant susie, noelle's hair is wavySusie's hair is exactly like that in the prophecy
>>725968334Unfortunately the IDW Comics have popularized LGBTIllness shit for Sonic now because of Tangle and Whisper.But that's besides the point, every fandom has some level of faggotry to it.
>>725974575Sonic should be gayHe doesn't even like girls anymoreCome on, sega x3
>>725974631> FagnicBTFO'd by Amy thirsting after Sonic's BBC (Big Blue Cock) and him showing hints of reciprocating.
>>725974790that will be retconnedNew amy will be a strong independant womyn
>>725973643Don't you literally defend a pedo? Seek mental help or get lost, these threads would be much better without your schizophrenia accusations
>>725974631>>725974790>>725974884>they're unaware
>>725975016reconnedyou haven't played the new games or watched the movies
>>725974393>>725974515Kris literally wears a scarf. It doesn't match either Susie or Noelle's hair and you know it. Susie doesn't use swords or wear ribbons.Noelle can't wear the gloves that come with the princess ribbon. It can only be Kris. >>725973643Careful. The humans in Undertale have a slight connection to Deltarune thematically worth considering.The SECOND human to fall in the underground in Undertale had a cyan soul, a toy knife, a faded ribbon, and a bandage. The SECOND character you play as in Deltarune is associated with knives, ribbons, and bandages. Kris is the second character. The second hero. The girl.
>>725950874>What's the millennial equivalent to pronoun faggotry?what used to really get the insults flying on old forums was evolution vs. creationism
>>725973954He already ruined it by confirming Chara is there and saved in normal pacifist and Chara already gets screentime in Soulless Pacifist, so you're wrong.
>>725969458>deliver the message "STOP BLAMING CHARA FOR WHAT YOU DID ASSHOLES"headcanon
>>725971438>Bergentruckung/ASGORE remix for Flower King Asgore>Your Best Nightmare/Finale remix for schizo boss Flowey
>>725975685Flowey's not showing up until Asriel does at best. The whole schizo TV thing better fits an upgraded Tenna.
>>725975196Noelle can equp the black shard and her own pen, swords
>>725975624Incidentally the post you're replying to means the post 9 posts after it is total bullshit.
>>725976107Pens and pencils are distinctly not knives.
>>725976273Also, Noelle can equip the black shard because she's Dess' little sister.
>>725975624Toby Fox personally redeemed Chara from a decade of shitty bad readings of his game and headcanonChara was never le epic evil sociopath who made you do you're genoslidesYou were always responsible for the choices you made in the video gameCope and sneedthe
>>725976418black shard is a sword
>>725976575Yeah, and? >>725967937
>>725974372He has been extra stupid this thread, forgetting that he shilled his off-site drama three days ago, and pretending the OC of the dude he stalks is actually Asriel as if we're blind.
>>725976491>You were always responsible for the choices you madeCome on, you don't believe that, just look at this thread.
>>725975328That was always the case. I am talking about physical appearances. Asriel is Flowey but he only shows himself as Asriel in the pacifist route.
>>725975008Yes. If he isn’t the actual pedo itself. The worst part that he acts like a janny himself policing what should and shouldn't be posted.
>>725977047You seem awfully familiar with the OC that apparently that guy knows about.
Ralsei will leave the party during Weird solely to avoid the possibility of Spamton saying anything to Noelle.
>>725977468Because you spammed it for a month, in several memes dunking on le Charafag. Glad you dropped your denial, though.
>>725977713You seem pretty mad about this "charafag" getting dunked on, for someone who isn't them.
>>725975958I don't get why anyone wants it to be "Tenna but schizo," doing the same character three times would be really lame. People read into that tweet way too much and that's why Toby doesn't post stuff like that.Meanwhile in Asgore's shop he's got the six suspiciously human-SOUL-colored flowers surrounding the one golden flower and it's been made clear how much Asgore cares for the flowers and treats them like family and confides all of his deepest secrets to them (like Papyrus does with Flowey in Undertale), they're really not hiding anything about how the flowers might be important in the "Flower King" Dark World but people are fixating on the prop TV for some reason
>>725956047LMFAO this looks like absolute shit! Even worse if you were going for Asriel!Never draw again.
>>725977810I am mad about your spam and thread schizophrenia, like having a thread long meltdown because someone said you lost.>>725977974It looks like a down-syndrome Asriel, lol.
>>725977913Flowey 2 has to be the main boss. Jackstein map representing the main bosses shows a flower for Chapter 5, and Asgore is holding a flower in his prophecy panel, too.
>>725978160>like having a thread long meltdown because someone said you lost.Real weird thing to say considering you've been having a total melt down for 5 hours because someone said that someone (you definitely aren't) is annoying.
>>725950704TVTropes and Western cartoon writers
>>725978269Asgore is boss3 after Queen and Tenna thoughever, they get prophecies, the schizos don't (Gerson even had one that was cut from the final)
>>725978495The flower is right there, you're falling for a classic misdirection.
>>725978495Exactly, that flower Asgore is holding is the main boss. Papyrus is the schizo.
>>725978336I am not the only one engaging and mocking you, but if that helps you cope better you can have the delusions you want.
>>725977913I like crazy characters, I'd love to have schizo Gerson too.
>>725978669Oh right, just like Dess isn't the KnightTricky Tony is at it again!
>>725958410I'm wondering if the game's one ending isn't somehow Undertale, because that's when the seventh kid dies and Kris is the first.
>>725978775Sure, there's a million zillion of you and you definitely, for sure, have not been having a full on tantrum for the past 5 hours, you've definitely been owning one guy that you know for sure is who is not making you make yourself look stupid.
>>725978994Your samefag schizophrenia is pretty obvious which is why you are a thread schizo, dude. Normal people don't act this way.
>>725978897Kris' dark world skin color alone disproves that in chapter 1. Then there's Gerson. Stop posting.
>>725979084This post definitely, does not make you look stupid.
>>725978881False equivalent. Flower man is literal, referring to the glass container Asgore has him in.
I just love Deltarune is all.
POST KISSING
>>725978881Dess is the Knight with a twist.Flowery is the main boss taking Papyrus role in reverse Undertale. Asgore is the Sans.
>>725979427Since we're talking about Flowey and all.
>>725975186Amy is definitely crazy enough that if she heard Sonic was into humans she would find a way to become one. Not even as a competitive thing, she'd just do it to get him off. Goddamn goblin.
>>725950159Left, but it's poor writing.The fallen child of Undertale made sense to keep ambiguous. The vast majority of monsters had never seen a human before and the child was too young to start developing enough to be recognizable at a glance.Kris is a high schooler who was adopted and lived with the Dreamers since at least early childhood. They would know if he had a dick or she had a pussy.Anyway, my Kris is a dude. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
>>725973392IS THAT TOGORE?
>>725980868Which one would be more pleasant to kiss? Doe mouth or lizard mouth?
>>725980727No, Toby Fox killed Togore in the end of summer of 25.
>>725980974He was almost canon
>>725980967I think it must be very subjective and individual...Goat mouth though...
>>725979304>kris' monster sona before chapter 3+4: goat>kris' monster sona after chapter 3+4: dog
>>725981621It's been dog since chapter 2 dawg.People just know how to draw Goatsters better than dogsters.
If at any point in the game Kris fully turns into a monster (not just Tasque dog ears) for any duration then I will commission a golden statue for Toby
Chapter 5 will confirm if doe route and dino route exist
>>725982107God, please let this happen.END Suselle. FOREVER.
Suselle is fine if Kris gets to plap Ralsei
>>725982302Suselle will be known as the most hated ship in video games if its the only option pushed in the story
>>725982403Ralsei looks like Asriel, it would be as bad as Suselle
>>725982107The judgment day.
>>725979150> The Kriselle who samefags like shit says somebody else is stupidOh the irony
>this ending will destroy entire legacy of Toby more than Mass Effect 3 ending ruined Bioware
>>725983221More so that he posts his only two Noelle images when he tries to pretend to be a regular post but fails by focusing on his insane shit.
>>725983728KEK. Nah, a lot of the rainbow community crave it
>>725974179>YagipedoWhat?>>725974372>>725977047Samefag>>725975008>>725977369Schizo samefag>>725975196>The humans in Undertale have a slight connection to Deltarune thematically worth considering.No. Also Kris is a boy
>>725950159Male krisKris is male because im male, end of story
>>725982540>Ralsei looks like AsrielAnd that's a good thing!
>>725983728Honestly, I've seen nothing but negativity when this ship is brought up on Xitter. I don't think even the most delusional yurifag wants this nothingburger of a ship to actually become a canon thing; they mostly crave the aesthetics of hot girls kissing than actual substance.
>>725984105Get bent, yagipedo.
>>725950159>Which way Deltarune newcomer fan?Dess Raped Kris and his newfound addiction to this Deer's tongue around his glans gave him extreme insecurity which is why he changed to be genderless to avoid being raped by the deer again.
>>725950159is Deltarune worth playing? I spent 50 hours playing Undertale in 2016.
>>725984415Oh yeah, totally, but if I were you I'd download the demo and immediately skedaddle out of the thread.
>>725950159>Kris can't be depicted as a girl or a boy in any fan art or fanfics, otherwise it erases their identity in the game and in real life non-binary peopleWhy are trannies literally the only physical phenomena IRL that vanish if you don't use the right words to describe them? Why has ever else accepted this absurd notion that this threatens someone's reality when calling a man a woman or a girl a man, while rude, doesn't endanger their existence whatsoever? It's not that Kris isn't nonbinary, it's that the implications drawn from it are fucking crazy. enbies aren't literal unicorns that vanish if you don't use the magic spell at all times to keep them real. This is almost entirely why nobody likes dealing with them.
>>725984105You might want to try looking at the evidence before you stick your fingers in your ears. I won't begrudge you though, it took me a while to accept Kris is the girl too.
>>725984415The 4 chapters released do far are kino. But if you want to rape the deer you need to use walkthrough on line
>>725984415Play the demo and decide for yourself, it's the first two chapters
>>725984123You're not Kris, you're the vessel.
>>725984230Its funny because I genuinely cannot tell whether its>Toby is playing the long con and making more and more evidence for suselle being a trash relationship every chapter to test his audience>Toby is such a hardcore yurifag that the second the two are in the same room he loses all sense of reasoning and good storytelling so he can have a second alphdyneIntentional or not the first is happening, every chapter makes more and more people get vocal about how horrible a relationship it is, but he also literally admitted in the anniversary stream that he has a thing for strong willed girl and shy cute girl tension (I cant find the fucking screenshot though so take it with some salt). I dont think Ive ever seen such a make or break scenario in writing with this big yet even of a gap, the moment one is confirmed over the other is the moment this game's fate is decided
>>725984415>>725984456>>725984583>download the demowhat gay shit is this? Just download it fully from Skidrow or IGG
>>725984105KEKAROOOOO, make yourself look even more delirious you dumb troglodyte.
>>725974393That's her scarf.The tipping point of Kris Girl theory for me was when it was pointed out that Dess was always represented as using a Baseball bat in the Dark World. All of her imagery has it, even the knight's "sword" is baseball bat shaped. What The Girl in the prophecy is using is very obviously, very blatantly, a sword with a point and a hilt. We've only seen one character that uses a sword with a point and a hilt, and it's not Dess, Susie, or Noelle.
>>725984631I think he should do routes, so even if people hate suselle, they can do krusie or kriselle route. This way he can have his autistic yuri and satisfy the rest of the fans
>>725984669or just do that, idk, do what you want man. I'm not your mother
>>725984631I'm not super invested in the shipping war but Toby comes pretty close to explicitly shipping Krusie on his Bsky account.
>>725984631>he has a thing for strong willed girl and shy cute girl tensionThat's SuKris and Kriselle in a nutshell.
>>725984521>Why are trannies literally the only physical phenomena IRL that vanish if you don't use the right words to describe them?They pretty much DO disappear if you just dont call them what they want you to. Because what youre calling them is all they have to cling to, the moment you decide to use the right pronouns the identity is empty and worthless. If you arent playing along, they're just some freak who refuses to accept who they are
>>725984249>>725984683>Still dumb enough to make it obvious that you're a samefagging phoneposter retard
>>725984781Basically to keep Kris Girl from not happening or being a retcon, Toby has to introduce a new lightner in Ch 5 that uses a sword with a point and a hilt who also has a scarf shaped like Kris'. Not the most hacky bit of writing he's done, but all of the writing so far has been explicitly trying to redirect suspicion on the The Girl is toward Dess, Noelle, and Susie. It's such an obvious attempt to cover for a fourth unknown possibility that the redirection itself feels like confirmation.
>>725984614Thats right, but im assuming direct control over kris. With heart inside his gender is in my hands. Total kris erasure
>>725985102I think the idea of susie or noelle The Girl thing even came up because the Knight uses some kind of machete even in her dark form. Definitely not a broadsword.
>>725984781There are theories that something will happen to Kris, mostly losing his hand/arm, and Susie will pick up his sword becoming "The Girl". There is a shit ton of hand foreshadowing throughout the game, the most blantant being kris not seeing his hand on two different occassions (The shard text and 1225 room)
>>725985220Fellow weird route aficionado I can't wait to *Proceed
>>725985220But she still has her cute innie pussy. She will never be a man. You're a goddamn tranny, a tomboy eraser, you stupid nigger.
>>725985349But weird route is quintessential toxic yuri kino in chapter 4. Aren't you guys familiar with any of that stuff?
>this is kris's next rape victim
>>725951963>behaviors or situations that teenage boys specifically hide around girls.Like what
>>725985297Picking up her sword wouldn't make much sense for Susie because she also has to pick up (Us) along with it. There's also the text "LOVE finds its way to The Girl", LOVE is Level of Violence, and Susie has been specifically straying away from that because she does not want to hurt Darkners either knowing what she knows about Ralsei. So unless this entire thing is going to be "We're assuming direct control of Susie" then it can't be her. Which that isn't ruled out yet.
>>725985297Those theories forgot that the girl wears ribbons. Kris will likely suffer a hand injury at some point but that's unrelated.
>>725985469You mean Rape Offender
>>725985583If anything Susie would be the one chopping Kris' hand off going by the other shadow crystal reveal.
>>725985627Yeah, and who in the party was supposed to be the one wearing ribbons
>>725985627>>725985297I think it's going to be a misdirect, Kris is the one the prophecy spoke of as being The Girl but Susie, by interjecting herself into the whole prophecy, has completely shattered that future and will now take it up on herself.
>>725984631>>Toby is such a hardcore yurifag that the second the two are in the same room he loses all sense of reasoning and good storytelling so he can have a second alphdyneToby is a yurifag, but he has no real life romantic experiences of his own to draw upon in his writing and has terrible taste in the yuri media he must therefore emulate, so all his romantic writing is pure, unfiltered dogshit.
>>725984415Yeah, if you liked Undertale it's a general improvement.
>>725953795I enjoy deltarune and hate lefties/tumblr refugees, but you're delusional ig you think that's happening with the gaytheythems the videogame, my man. I'm sorry to tell you this.
>>725985864He's married
>>725985837Kris. The only one who can properly equip the PRINCESS ribbon. >>725985859It's hard to be a misdirect when fucking nobody realizes Kris is the girl.
>>725978881>he fell for the blatant triple red herring of Carol and DessHave you seen the Knight and Noelle in the same room? Guess not! Sleepwalking Noelle KnightAt the start of CH2 darkworld, you see the place destroyed and scared darkners warning you about ''her''Knight first encounter is in a snowy environment, Noelle enters in a trance state when she is exposed to coldNoelle can equip the BlackShardShadow Crystal text for CH3 is Undyne frozen in iceNoelle does cross country which would explain her demon speed after kidnapping UndyneKnight scream kinda sounds like Noelle's screamKris knows this which is why he doesn't want snowgrave to keep happening >bruh she was in her house in ch4 before the church dark worldno idea lol
>>725986017>KrisRalsei literally fucking says it was supposed to be Susie, who just actively denies it. You know what else she actively denies? Being the one who holds the pen. You know who she says actually holds it? Kris. Are you seeing the pattern or do I need to tell you what pens/pencils are in the dark world
>>725986023>church dark worldDo we KNOW the closet in the Church doesn't have a secret passage leading to Carol's house, or she doesn't have a key to the interior of the church from being a choir member?Literally the only thing that stops Noelle from being The Knight is figuring out how she can enter the Church while she seems to be at her house in Chapter 4. It's a classic closed room mystery.
>>725986150Ralsei awkwardly points out the girl wears rihbons while trying to direct Susie into thinking she's the girl. You might want to play chapter 4 again. You know who can actually wear the princess ribbon properly? Kris and Kris alone.
>>725986518Kris CAN wear the ribbon but just want to point out that Susie *refuses* to wear the ribbon because she thinks it's gay or whatever, but that isn't the same as she *can't*. It's more about her being immune to the player's control imo.
>>725986023completely unrelated but it just clicked for me, that circle noelle has in snowgrave is supposed to be her inside a fucking snowglobe isnt it
>>725950159>obfuscate gender in order to be more relatable to the playerExcept the vast majority finds "they/them" to be off-putting.
>>725986690Susie's hands are demonstrably bigger than Kris', dumbass.
>>725950159It always baffles me when such an obviously faggy game like Deltarune attracts a sizeable fanbase of chuds who are vigorously in denial about it
>>725986859>A ring with a snowglobe on it. ... is that someone inside?The first ring you get in the weird route
>>725965904Anything with any sort of anthro focus will become riddled with degens. It's just sadly how it is.
>>725987140I'm not a chudanon but I think Deltarune is actually fundamentally a fantastic detail-driven game where being "a queer game" is just an aspect of its identity as opposed to being a main selling point.
we're going to be able to take susie to the festival... right??
>>725985076You lost, pedoposting schizo.If you're gonna accuse others of samefagging, at least don't make it so obvious when you do the same.
>>725987235god DAMMIT im a fucking retard for not seeing it sooner
>>725987319Berdly will take us to the festival.
>>725985076 Ngl man they have been cooking you for a while now. Maybe you really are schizophrenic lol.
>>725987319No, enjoy your yurislop.
>>725975196Kris girl theory is completely implausible because Toby would get turbo cancelled and his fans would kill him and eat him alive for making Kris the most theythem nonbinary protagonist ever become objetively gendered. It would also be in just poor taste for him to make a story with a transphobic prophecy, which at the very worst WILL make Kris' gender issues plot-relevant and I don't believe a single person inside this thread wants to see any of that.
>>725984543Kris is a boy. He's the most stereotypical teenage boy in fiction
>>725987342>>725987468Schizo samefag
>>725950159Kris is a man and anybody ever thinking anything else is gay.
>>725986023>At the start of CH2 darkworld, you see the place destroyed and scared darkners warning you about ''her''Chapter 2 by itself makes Noelle being the Knight absurd. Queen saw a video of The Knight making the Dark Fountain and decided to replace The Knight with The Knight. Noelle goes into a trance and trauma-induced stupor where you unleash her potential, but somehow nothing Knight-like happens. Spamton clearly knows something about The Knight but treats Noelle as nothing more than Kris's [Side Chick] who's just going to be used and discarded.Also why would there be the implication that someone was hiding in the closet if Noelle made the fountain?>Knight first encounter is in a snowy environmentLocked away behind the code "1225"Noelle is not uniquely associated with cold, Carol is too, so much so that she's even frigid in the Light World. It's entirely reasonable to assume Dess would share their affinity and could freeze Undyne (information that is not accessible in-game).>Knight scream sounds like Noelle's screamBecause it's her sister.Also, where's the assumption that The Knight is in a trance coming from? The Knight acts wild (which Noelle is never like) but can also be cognizant and calculating. They recognize Kris's signal to take a dive in their fight and calmly "knight"/force them to kneel afterward, the whole thing was a plot. They spend all of Chapter 4 just wasting your time, they acknowledge Susie's speech and repeatedly taunt her and Ralsei. Whatever's going on with them and Kris is not the actions of someone who's brainwashed/unaware.
>>725987546Stereotypical teenage boys have big manly hands, not tiny dainty princess hands like my daughter Kris does.
>>725987529That was discussed hours ago in this very thread. The vessel is the key to avoiding that. >just poor tasteOh lmao you're a seething troon making a threat aren't youKris is a stereotypical reverse trap. >I don't believe a single person inside this thread wants to see any of that You best start believing because it has nothing to do with your stupid fucking "muh transphobia" and everything to do with Kris trying to change her fate because something bad happens to the girl.
>>725988584you didn't even read the main point of my replyYour theory sucks ass
>>725988692>It would also be in just poor taste for him to make a story with a transphobic prophecyThat's what you wrote, troon. You didn't understand the point of the theory at all, and you are clearly from plebbit because that's the exact type of post I saw there when I was trawling looking to see if any community besides here discussed the theory.
>>725988584Who do you think Toby is most likely to appeal to: a handful of chuds who'd be fine with Kris being concretely gendered, or the swathes of raped teenagers that his fanbase primarily consists of?
>>725988927I think you need to go back. Your only objection is that you'll seethe at Toby if he does something remotely based which is irrelevant to the actual evidence. Either go back through the thread and read or fuck off.
>>725989109Chill out. You're way too far up your own butt to even begin comprehending the messages you're responding to.
>>725989339You might want to look at Deltarune's actual demographics. The "raped teenagers" are a vocal minority.
>>725988153That was her brother Chester actuallyAnd i know, the biggest counter evidence is that Noelle is in her house and the Knight doesn't change her behavior when you do the weird route in the church>Also, where's the assumption that The Knight is in a trance coming from? I don't know how to say this, but the Knight feels different in ch3 and ch4, in 3 the Knight acts serious but in 4 just goof around with Susie, not even trance related but it feels like it's someone else
>>725950727
>>725989527What if the knight is genuinely just having fun, there is no greater motive and thats why they havent really started the roaring, they just like fucking with the heroes
>>725986023player movement can't be taken as evidence for how characters get from point a to point b, there's still a number of things to do after leaving noelle's house before the dark world, which would give her ample time to get to the churchi should also mention that noelle even had a reason to go to church, there was supposed to be choir practice that evening
ever since the 'kris = female' theory really started gaining traction in june i've noticed that for whatever reason it's one of the most volatile theories i've ever seen, it really pisses people off and i don't fully understand why for the fag brigade it essentially changes nothing, kris would have to be male or female either way, she would still be referred to as 'they/ them' in gamei don't see how it would matter for the average player in the slightest, a lot of game have female protagonists and aren't derided for them (at least not by itself)that just leaves the self insert crowd, but they should've stopped that shit at minimum 4 years ago when ch2 made it explicitly clear that kris is a separate character from (you) beyond the ch1 cliffhanger
>>725991860It's not controversial, you're just annoying
>>725950463nigga trans isn’t a thing. trannies are just sexist dudes speaking on women’s behalf so that they can shame them for excluding men from their bathrooms nigga
>>725991860It's mainly the fact Kris' sprite leans a little masculine and requires a little more imagination to make her fit into the "cute and sexy" category the other characters manage, and the fact most artists do tend to draw a Kris that's manlier than the one that exists in game with big male hands that make Noelle feel like a woman instead of cute girly hands. Right now the vessel is MIA so Kris is the closest thing to a self insert they have, if and when the Vessel and potentially the Cyan SOUL show up you'll probably see more willing to disassociate from Kris and treat her as rapemeat. >>725991986The seething it's produced in this thread alone begs to differ.
>>725950874Normalfags diluted the internet and all the old memes making fun of retards on forums like "the internet is srs business!!" got forgotten. So now self-obsessed attention whoring retarded faggots don't get bullied and gatekept, instead they get big massive hugbox communities to coddle them and tell them that actually they're right and everyone else is a meanie. Impressionable teens get welcomed into these fag circles and get indoctrinated into the idea that every topic on the internet is a ultra important battle of good vs. evil and that if anyone ever disagrees with you on something it's hate speech meant to personally harass you. So basically, it's a bunch of groomers turning kids into keyboard warriors so they can fight random strangers on xitter in order to defend the honor of the middle aged faggot grooming them.
>>725992357tl;dr Deviantart spread to the rest of the internet and nobody noticed until it was too late
>>725992357sounds sort of like 4chan
>>725991860>ever since the 'kris = female' theory really started gaining traction in june i've noticed that for whatever reason it's one of the most volatile theories i've ever seen,Because for it to be true the Kris = Absolutely Enby absolutely nothing else Gender does not exist for humans trannies have to admit that Kris has a gender. They aren't doing that. They'll go to Toby's house and light it on fire before they admit that their Xey/Xem can be interpreted as female. They are going to die on this hill. They will never admit that maybe, just maybe, the self-insert fags were right.
>>725992357I get chills thinking about how close I was to ending up like that as an impressionable tween in the 00s. If not for 4chan saving me at the time I dread to think of what could've happened.
>>725992328>The seething it's produced in this thread alone begs to differ.That's more of an admission of you being really annoying than it actually being controversial.
>>725992523>They'll go to Toby's house and light it on fire before they admit that their Xey/Xem can be interpreted as femaleIt's telling that it's specifically Kris being female that sets them off. You can call Kris a he and self insert your head off and at worst you'll get grumbling about being insensitive. But call Kris the cutie she actually is and watch how they burn with hate.
>>725992642>youWho is 'you'? Are you on the kick that I'm the other guy you replied to?
>>725991860>for the fag brigade it essentially changes nothing, kris would have to be male or female either way, she would still be referred to as 'they/ them' in gameI don't think you get how the non-binary thing works, to someone who identifies as "enby", their gendered self is effectively dead. Even referring to them as a male or female is the same as deadnaming. Toby may understand this, or he may not, or he may have the interpretation that because Kris is nonbinary, she can apply for both male or female. Either ways, I think there's a clash of ideology occurring over gender politics that does not belong in this game.
>>7259925154chan is shit for a similar reason, but it's kind of the opposite (though not in any sort of good way). We got overtaken by normalfag tourists who came here for le epic /b/ maymays anonymouse we are leegion. The "asshole of the internet" reputation attracts normalfag social media refugees who want to use 4chan as their shitpost toilet to let off steam. It's not really a hugbox, but that's related to why /v/ got turned into a sfw /b/. Normies are squeamish about nigger cock and don't want their classmates to look over their shoulder and see a (gasp!) anime nipple, so they gravitate here instead of /b/.
>>725992981No I just assumed you were an annoying retard given your choice of vernacular.
>>725950159Everyone is racist against humans and uses they/them to demonsterize Kris
>>725993032The website is run by someone who brags about how 4chan got trump elected. The moot era is over, gotta let go of it and deal with the fact that this place has been overrun.
>>725993001That's right sis, Kris' deadname is Frisk, don't let these chuds win!
>>725993071Eat shit, faggot.
Why won’t he just fuck his cute deer childhood friend?
>>725991860I just think it would be hotter if Kris dicked NoelleUnless you wanna dick Kris which sure
>>725993476I will dick Kris and Noelle at the same time.
>>725991860The troons are upset because they think the "they/them" pronouns were put in the game specifically to represent them. If you don't use them then it's a personal attack on the troons. If you don't use them intentionally because you see Kris as male or female (either as a self-insert or because that's how you recognize the character) then the troons see it as you denying their personal identity and a deliberate act of hate. If you just didn't notice the "they/them" or even you just said a gender on accident because you see more masculine or feminie traits in Kris, then you are also evil by their standards since defaulting to seeing a gender means you operate on the binary gender system that oppresses the troons.
>>725989527I think The Knight (Dess) just isn't fucking around in Chapter 3 and IS kind of fucking around in Chapter 4In Chapter 3 they show up to instantly murder Tenna (something that apparently has to happen according to The Prophecy, and they're seemingly crying after doing it, which makes sense if it's Dess), then they fight you/kick your ass to stall because Undyne STILL hasn't fucking show up yet and the whole point of all of this was luring her in to get kidnapped.In Chapter 4 The Knight doesn't really do anything until the very end and it's still not clear what their plan or purpose was there, if they even had one. They're clearly not in a stressful situation where they were pressed to complete an objective, they do almost nothing but delay and harass you going through the Dark World and they clearly enjoy doing it.There's still clearly continuity though, beyond them having the same appearance.>has some special connection with Kris (they hold back against each other in Chapter 3, Kris refuses to attack the Knight if you manage to reach them at the start of the Church Dark World, "another hand pressed against yours")>they hide their identity in the Light World ("A large person could fit inside" in Chapter 2 and in Chapter 4, where Kris will again refuse to open the door when prompted)
>>725984781That is actually a big one. If the figure really was meant to be Noelle adopting a sword, then it would show a katana. The Holiday family is exclusively associated with katanas. Why the hell would the the figure be wielding 1:1 Kris's sword? It just doesn't make sense.
>>725986150Kris and Ralsei are conspiring to turn Susie into the girl. It almost worked too, since pic related did change to show her. The other portraits didn't, however.
>>725988153Correct. This is the main reason why Noelle Knight is a stupid theory. It can only be Dess or Rudy.
>>725996215Yeah but it's funny so I support it
>>725996057How queer, how wonderfully WEIRD. No matter which direction you count, Kris is always the second one out!
>>725993001>>725993071There is no such thing as nonbinary, these are the same people who will somehow believe at the same time that someone can be bisexual but be "nonbinary" at the same time.Gender pseudoscience only exists because it would be a good tactic to continue to erode and destroy Europeans. Singular they needs to be banned and made illegal in the English language. Toby is a faggot and deserves to suffer the consequences of even humoring this terminal online Israel garbage regardless of his views.
>>725996215>or Rudy
>>725997610Carol is the red herring. She can't be the knight due to physical distance inconsistencies, just like Noelle. Only Dess and Rudy make sense.
>>725997694If we're talking build wise Asriel is unironically the only one who would fit.
Honestly the weirdest thing about Carol Knight is that not a single person thinks it's true. It's commonly believed to be a red herring for causal players, but I haven't seen a single casual that thinks it's her. The bat symbolism is so blatant everyone instantly jumps to Dess once they see it. If it is a red herring, it might be the worst one of all time.
>>725997694Carol getting in the Mayormobile and beating Susie to the Church makes more sense than the terminally ill man jumping out of his hospital bed and sneaking around town like a goblin without anyone noticing
>>725997897He's faking it, it's a commentary on white males (Rudy is Canadian coded) and how they don't deserve any empathy
>>725997798I mean Carol was physically located in a known location separate from the knight. It's not her.
>>725997897Rudy has anime sickness. He can be a physical powerhouse but only for a few minutes each day.
>>725994009Still on the "Knight is multiple people" team, the body may be one entity but it's clear its goals change from chapter to chapter because there is more than one person manipulating it.Like maybe Chapter 3 was Kris' plan while chapter 4 was Carol's plan, and it seems like it's taunting and teasing in Chapter 4 because Carol's plans aren't as straightforward
>>725997954But I actually agree that build wise Carol doesn't fit the Knight. Out of known characters only Asriel, assuming his college self looks very similar to his god of hyperdeath form in Undertale, fits the build.
Tranny thread
>>725998148I believe Carol's plan is to make the prophecy come true. It's probably going to lead to some Eva instrumentality shit, where by ending the world she can reunite with her daughter.
>>725998151Also Asriel Knight theory dovetails nicely with Eddy's brother theory and the foreshadowing multiple times that Susie is going to stand up to Asriel and help Kris. Stuff like Asriel's bat is the cherry on top.
>>725997867The one snag in non-December Knight theories is that Undyne was frozen solid. Carol is the one who's capable of lowering the temperature in the light world. It's easy to assume she's a souped up Noelle. Either that or Noelle is an unwitting accomplice and snowgraved Undyne.
supposedly someone i know has played chapter 5
>>725950159thank god I don't play slop made for trannies
>>725998919It's also possible Noelle is not a conscious participant, as in they're just using her body.which is a funny coincidence because we are too
>>725955335KrisKbartRafterIbocaSloses
>>725966505The moment Undertale came out, I clocked it as gay tumblr shit. I guess you weren't conscious back then, zoomer
>>725997694I mean, she could've just been done making the dark fountains at the church and that's why it took her some time to get home, funny coincidence that church is right outside the city hall so she could've come from either place and take just as long.
>>726001610Actually it was furfag dogshit because of the demo first, then the full game came out and revealed itself as a homestuck replacement for maladjusted tumblr retards
>>725998919>Carol is the one who's capable of lowering the temperature in the light world.I dont see why we should be taking this as fact quite yet, could simply just be Kris in particular because of whatever history they have. He's the town prankster, she's the mayor and mother of the girl he always pranks, is extremely strict and has a fucking katana, I'd feel a chill if I was in his place too. Plus if you wanna accept that as fact, that means monsters ARE capable of true magic in Deltarune all of a sudden
>FRIEND "Theory" video>it's just a bunch of scattershot assumptions and guesses about what might happen in Chapter 5Andrew Cunningham has really spoiled me with his format of "present a throughline and follow it through to its conclusion"
>>726001841I had this on as background noise and don't actually remember there being a theory, just a bunch of info
>>725982469The way robert is writing it so far makes me think its a red herring of noelle making susie the new target of her dependency problems just like how (YOU) are in the weird route.maybe im reading too much in to it though
>>726001841Actual takeaways from this>What does the "Roots" prophecy represent? It could be 1) Abstract symbolism just representing the idea of "your roots" and "home" 2) The Dreemurr household (kind of obvious) or 3) The Shelter (would have some very very interesting implications)>What is the "Roots dungeon"? The "Digital Roots" area in Queen's basement and "Bit Roots" dungeon in the third Mantle game have virtually identical theming and both seem to represent another more "real" place. The most logical assumption would be that it's inside the Shelter, but if that's the case it's strange that the Mantle Game has you leave this dungeon and then go to the Shelter in the game as a completely separate are with different theming>What does the "Bit Roots" dungeon represent? The enemies obviously represent Hometown residents, but I can't take the idea that we're going to literally kill everyone in town seriously. The idea that the dungeon layout itself lines up with the layout of town also doesn't really hold up, except maybe in the broadest strokes.Putting these ideas together I'm going to come up with an actual theory: Kris's "Roots" are in Asgore's basement.The next Dark World is 100% the "Flower King" shop, where we know that Asgore keeps a schizo board and other information about the Dess case. He is obsessed with it and sees solving it as the only way he can fix his broken family. The information about whatever happened with Kris and Dess - what happened behind the trees, at the Shelter - is certainly there. What Kris's family was like before, and what happened to them after, is there too.Why are there roots growing out of the walls in these places? Because it's in the Flower Shop. Asgore has told the flowers everything. We'll find everything in the Flower King's dungeon.and that's why FLOWEY SECRET BOSS WINS AGAIN BAY-BEE I guess it can still be FRIEND but I want to clap at Deltarune True Lab bullshit
>>726003527You should kill yourself
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>>725950159Option 3 (the path downwards Kris is already facing):>Across UT/DT (including various official live stream content) the monsters have met or spoken of at least 4 humans in their world, and called each one "they", while no human has spoken of one another in third person. The easiest explanation is monsters don't understand human sexes (much like they don't understand many other things about humans), the same way a human in a fantasy setting may see an ugly bearded dwarf with a raspy low voice and not know if it's a man or a woman.
>>725950159Kris is boy cause I is boy and he look like boy more than he look like girl
kris is boy because otherwise how's he supposed to impregnate noelle and have a dozen monster hafus?
>>725991860>ever since the 'kris = female' theory really started gaining traction in june i've noticed that for whatever reason it's one of the most volatile theories i've ever seen, it really pisses people off and i don't fully understand whyBecause only retarded trannies and actual women think it's remotely reasonable. Fuck you.
>>726003846>The easiest explanation is monsters don't understand human sexesThis is a stupid cope explanation when monster gender norms are essentially the same as humans, and especially stupid in the Deltarune universe where monsters clearly are familiar with humans to that Toriel could get literature for human childcare from the town's public library
>>725970482To further convince you that he was the prince from the dark.
>>725991860It's because it is mirroring what happened to Frisk and Chara.Chara was mostly headcannoned as being a girl but Frisk was exclusively a male in fanart.But then the Japanese side of the fandom wanted Frisk to be a girl, why?So they could have an ugly bastard like Sans fuck the two little human girls.Toby saw that and might be steering Kris into a girl because he wants to be liked by japs.
>>726001841In antiquity, in the old country, blood sacrifices were performed over roots.
>>726004372More like that just proves "what the fuck even is a human" is a question you must go to a dusty old library for because it's not common knowledge at all.
one of the major themes of the game is "your choices dont matter". theres a lot of mentions of being "happy with your body", such as gaster's weird wording during the goner maker and that one enemy in the classroom dark world. kris has species dysphoria and ralsei is his fursona. i havent played ch3 and 4 yet btw.
