Could a Ninja Gaiden boy and a Devil May Cry girlie fall in love? Or is it forbidden? What happens if their kid is a Kingdom Hearts fan?
>>725953460Kingdom hearts is a RPG
>>725953460
>>725953460DMC fans for the most part likes all the games, NG fans consists of 2fags only.
>>725953460if my kid turns out to be a kingdom hearts fan, I'm post-natally aborting him into the shadow realm>>725954529This faggot hasn't been paying attention to the hordes of blackfags, or the swarm of newfag 4 casuals, or the myriad of Razor's Chads.
>>725953460As a DMCfag I'll just say that NG3 has better gameplay than 2.
>>725956221Falseflag.Probably a Bayonetta fanboi.
>>725956190>>725956221Based 3GAWD, that game is pretty cool.
>>725953460>Devil May Cry girlieare there any like this irl? (not trans)
>>725959814There was one that who was obsessed with Dante but she got shat on for liking the netflix show on xitter.
>>725960173heh, well deserved
>>725957414Wish we get GameCube spin off about her
>>725957051Silence old hags
>>725953460NG = DMC3NG2 = DMC1NG3 = DMC2Devil’s Third = DMC4NG4 = DMC5YNGZ = DmCWanted: Dead = Bayonetta
>>725953460i had a dream keizo used his millionaire money he got from sales to turn this into a 3d CAG
I need this game to be good.I don't need it to be revolutionary, I just need to be GOOD, and not flop completely.After NG4 and the recent MP4 news I can't take another L.
>>725954345>Play like a retard>Take a minute to kill one, ONE, super weak mob enemy.Kek.
>>725963156Can it match Rise of Ronin?
>>725963156I have no faith in crapcom.
>>725954345Dismal
>>725954345What are you trying to prove with this webm?
>>725954345>normal>all those blue orbs in mission 2>8 breakersTHIS NIGGA BOUGHT THE ORB PACKS
>>725963156I'm expecting it to be a 7/10.I'm still not sold on the game yet. I like Onimusha on the PS2, but there's nothing in the footage for the new one so far that answers the question "why is the new one interesting?"It looks almost identical to the PS2 games but with somehow less to do since all the weapons are actually just special moves and the only actual weapon is just a basic katanaMaybe the Onimusha mode is really cool, but we haven't seen it yet.
>>725964215>It looks almost identical to the PS2 games but with somehow less to do since all the weapons are actually just special moves and the only actual weapon is just a basic katanaTo be fair it's not like the movesets were anything remarkable in old Onimusha either. Every weapon had the same basic attacks with somewhat different fortes, and you rolled with one or the other because of their magic attack and because they had levels.So it makes sense to just separate the moment-to-moment gameplay completely from the magic stuff rather than have a bunch of weapons that are mostly interchangeable. There seem to be more unique interactions to the swordplay and more advanced skills, and the magic attacks include things like a bow so who knows how it will turn out in the end. To me the most important part is for the combat to actually feel interesting to do, which is what I'm worried about.
>>725953460I would love to play NG but I don't have an xbox, I recently started playing DMC3 for the first time and that game doesn't fuck around, the twin guardian boss is kicking my ass
>>725964129no, it's a third worlder who pirated it and didn't turn off the DLCs
>>725965161Just play the Master Collection. NG autists will talk your ear off about how NG2 and the Sigma version are totally different but it doesn't matter if you're just checking things out.
>>725965280Yeah I could get the sigma versions but I really prefer to play the OG games, I would've started with DMC1 but for some reason my ps2 doesn't want to read the disk even though it's in good condition, so I'm getting the hd version for the ps3 so I could at least play the game in some form
>>725964785Yeah but I expect a new Onimusha 3 entire console generations later to do something a bit more.I know it's doing a lot with the environmental interactions and it looks cool, but it's not enough for me.I think all the weapons should have been their own unique weapons with their own movesets and magic attacks and unique parries and different interactions and outcomes based on the parries you do with the weapon you have equipped.I hope they do a demo.
>>725965951can't emulate black at least?
>>725965951You can play DMC1 on the HD version. Unless you're a complete puritan who wants to play all on OG hardware, then all I have is kudos to you and good luck.Personally I recommend starting with either 1 or 3. If you're a "real gamer" you can start with 1 since it doesn't have the same gameplay as the rest of the series, so the progression afterwards won't feel as weird. If you think you'll drop the series if you don't get really into your first experience, then you should start with 3 and then play 1 after you're involved with Dante's tale.
>>725967645I don't disagree. I'm not saying I didn't wish the weapons would come back since they were a huge part of Oni 1-3's identity, just that I understand why they went with what they've shown so far.And again, to be fair, even if there's expectations after all this time, they also have to figure out how to translate Onimusha into modern gameplay trends.That's why I'm saying I need to be simply good. I'm not expecting it to be another DMC5. But I want a unique combat system with quality dev behind it.
>>725968383I wouldn't say I'm a puritan, just that playing on the og hardware gives you a more authentic experience than emulating everything in 4k, the quality is nice and all but it's just not the same experience as it was when it was released.>Personally I recommend starting with either 1 or 3I already said I started with 3 because my ps2 won't read the disc for the first game for some reason lel, good game though, they don't make them like they used to
>>725969181You don't have to run all the Emulator BS. I personally try to keep things as close to the OG as possible (at best I throw a WideScreen patch in games where it doesn't make THAT much of a difference being 4:3 or 16:9). But I salute you for your effort of trying to actually experience the game as intended by the Devs.
>>725963156the combat looks extremely animation heavy with cinematic takedowns, grabs and counter attacks. I'm not saying this is automatically a bad thing, I like NG2 which has a lot of this, but its one of those things that can look cool in trailers but be annoying when you're playing, I really need to see more before I'm sold.
>>725964129How Alucard bussy taste like?
>>725963156I played the first two Onimusha games recently and I get that it's not the main appeal of the games but I found the combat mind numbingly dull and was just sort of bored throughout.
>>725954345Blader gameplay???
>>725954345Why isn't this working?! Is there something missing?
Is there enough interest to revive it at this point?
>>725953460Don't mess with DMC girlies, we- Wait where are they? Oh she's tweeting and watching DMC5 Every Cutscene (Movie)
>>725974059Nah not even a little.
>>725973941Yeah basic hitreactions on your melee
>>725973790Try blade of fires
>>725954345NGbabies be like "Where is the delimb?!? Why can't I one shit those guys!??!!?!"
>>725979007Very nice Mr Bond, but I raise youDMCbabies be like "Why are they hitting back? I can't combo if they hit me back!!!!"
man i really hate that NG4 boss trials are all about backslash parry fishing.
>>725973941bro your wicked weaves
>>725954345You make fun of this, but this is how all of you playStop LARPing as some style god from YouTube or whatever Nobody here is good at action games lolI know this for a fact because the discussion in these threads is 3rd grade level
I'm finding NG4 Master Ninja difficulty to be insulting and obnoxious.Spent the last 30 minutes on the Kitsune mini boss because lanterns seemingly spawn infinitely until you beat the illusion. And I refuse to have all those deaths recorded on my fucking score.It's absolutely annoying how many items and coins they give you but punish your scores for using them.
Farnham has a new NG2 tech video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBsX5o62zJQ
Is there any other enemies in that genre that can cancel their attacks mid animation? I find it rather amusing.
Where's the name "character action game" come from and why did people settle on this? It's expedient to have a name at all to reffer to these games as, but it's not a very good one.
>>725982654not that i'm aware of, gracious and glorious are fun little shits
>>725982919Buddy, we call it J-Action around these parts
>>725982919Like everything, some retard YouTuber who has no idea how to play the games came up with the retarded name and people stuck with it. Despite Capcom using the moniker "Stylish Action" since DMC1.
How much of NG2 master ninja is just using the claws' forward y for instant delimb?
>>725973941yeah you're playing vs game instead of style game
>>725982919It's actually a very old videogame term people dusted off for this genre for no apparent reason.
Man I really tried to like DMC5 but I can't seem to get into it.I hate Nero's gameplay with a passion, having to time button presses with animation mid-combo feels like the game telling "Dance monkey, dance"like, idk. It's so pointless but the game wants it.
>>725982919What would you prefer? Some people call it other names, be the change you want to see sort of stuff. I (OP) might start calling it >>725983291 , even though I don't really like it and think it suffers from the same problem CAG has of being too vague. Racing games, FPS, TPS ... all can be "Stylish Action" in a way.
I like the term CAG. It makes it clear like, oh, I’ll play a game with elements of beat ’em up, platforming, and adventure. And I can use different characters, each with their own way to take on the challenges
>>725981493The score reduction for using items is still less severe than dying and it doesn't even kick in until you use your fifth consumable, items 1 to 4 just remove the bonus. The courtesan whore is literally the second encounter in that chapter and she has next to no hp dawg, you don't need to use every single item to get to and past her. If you care about the scoring so much then savescumming is flat out worse in most cases too since it resets your berserk meter and you can't carry it over to the next encounter. >>725982654Most NG enemies across all games can do it.
>>725954345I know it's a joke but this is why first playthroughs of DMC games are really miserable and subsequent playthroughs are amazing. DMC1 and 3 not included.
>>725954529I like every NG game except 4 (I even like parts of Yaiba) and I like every DMC game except 2. But one of these days I swear I want to like DMC 2, there are good things in there but they are so far between.
>>725984636I haven't thought of a particularly good name myself. I just know the games are relatively similar to fighting games, always mean 1 vs many, and typically have some degree of technicality and combos. I thought of a joke name POOFTA (Player on One + Fighting Technical Action), I kind of like it. It's sort of like how people call the League of Legends genre ASSFAGGOTS.
>>725987802Stylish action. Pure action. Hero action.I just call them action games because they're spiritually the same genre as action movies.
The one thing holding back NG2 from being better than NGB is that it doesn't have a sick ass sizzle reel on the title screenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZSOvfEMl4I
>>725982654>NGBdoppelganger if you use counterattacks or wcould they just ignore the hitstun from the counter?>NG3alchemists can cancel almost every attack>Baldr Skylots of enemies can dodge cancel their melee on hit and ranged whenever.
>>725987303I didn't use any potions to get past her. Flooding you with suiciding lanterns when you die in a couple of hits is not good level balancing.Also, they shove the score in your face every chapter: Of course I'm going to get annoyed when it's punishing you>score reduction doesn't kick in until 4Your default multiplier is 1.2. It's not a "bonus". Your score tanks the minute you use one item.
>>725987303>>725981493Futa status here?
>>725988250Not really.... Call of Duty could be considred "action movie games". James Bond games could. All sorts of games can fall under that vague genre.
>>725988943CoD is military and 007 is spies.
>>725989475If you made a John Wick game what wouldn't be "action" about that? What about the matrix games? How do you classify that?
>>725982654I don't get how you're supposed to deal with these mfs without witch time or without some exploit like camping and farming magic to use torture attacks.
>>725990681dodge offset and frequent use of tetsuzanko
>>725990681Just hit them
>>725954267>Kingdom hearts is an ARPGFtfy
>>725954345how the fuck did you get video of my gameplay?? Delete this!
>>725973660>the combat mind numbingly dullBrainlet take.
>>725989916I'd absolutely classify something like Matrix: The Path of Neo in this same genre. I dunno about John Wick, but Max Payne is pretty adjacent. People often bring up Vanquish when talking about these games since it was made by Platinum/Mikami and obviously the RE games share the same DNA. More technical FPSs like Ultrakill and Doom Eternal are also sometimes in the discussion.
>Destroys the foundation of CAG as a genre>Destroys CAG fansHow did he do it?
>>725983409Half. The other half us using claw FS>ID.
>>725953460>Character Action GamesRetard
>>725988674And the default for not dying is 1.0 so for all intents and purposes the no item multiplier is a bonus. The lanterns in that fight don't even suicide on their own so it's all your fault and skill issue. Looking forward to your rape valley experience.
>>725992282I never would think of Max Payne 3 as being in the same genre as NG. I guess it doesn't matter at the end of the day, so long as the conflation doesn't mean we'll start seeing redfining of the genre with games following suit.
>>725992567?
How do I git gud at NG4? This game is mentally exhausting. Especially the bosses.
>>725953460They're called 3D Beat Em Ups.
>>725992352I'd rather have none than the combo-centric trash that exists now.
>>725992631You still have to kill what's in the room after the mini boss, faggot. First few attempts were trying to get rid of them because it's the standard strat for bosses: kill dangerous adds first.>interacting with a core game system takes away your default multiplier they the devs themselves assignedIt's not a bonus, no matter how hard you want it to be true.
>>725992352I remember back in the DMC threads we made fun of the combo autists but now I guess we've got to do a 180 because of the evil twitter man.
>>725993195Drop it and play the originals that are actually Ninja Gaiden. NG4 bosses are monotonous, 2 phase healthslogs that destroy the pacing by forcing you to stop having fun killing mooks and deal with a Souls boss that doesn’t belong in a Ninja Gaiden game.
>>725993195Watch someone good that isn't ONGBAL that guy plays like he's on crack and you'll be surprised by how careful they playAir is much safer than the ground only if there aren't ranged enemiesSpend those meters. Seriously BR/Gleam clears screens and comes back in 2s if you have more than >50% you're doing something wrong (unless you want to cast Wind Blades), same thing with Bloodbath just pull the trigger no point in saving it (unless you're saving it for a specific Purgatory wave) since it disappears the moment you leave combat
Holy shit they made these guys so mean in 4. They turn into priority #1 the moment they show up but I haven't figured out a "clean" way to clear them yet I just bumrush and hope for the best.>>725993748NG4 bosses are a lot better than the previous games
>>725993748You never played NGB.
>people upset Ryu only has Dragon Sword in NG4>don't care because 99% of my time playing the other NG games was using Dragon Sword/True Dragon Sword
>>725994707I didn't complain that Ryu only had one weapon before release, but when I played the game and saw that Ryu has like half of his NG3RE moveset and his playstyle has been forced to rely on reskinned bloodraven renamed to Gleam I disliked the game. I'm never touching Yakumo again though that's for sure.
>>725993195This but 1 Sigma
>>725981458Nice projection
>>725995260>reskinned bloodraven renamed to Gleam I mean, it's not. Gleam and BR play completely differently. You'd know this if you played the game.
>>725995745They have different speeds and ranges but they do the exact same thing and are used in the exact same way.
>>725995891nta, but BR has it's own button hold/release mechanic that Gleam doesn't have. the BR timing thing is a huge turn off for me
>>725993592>neutral value is somehow not the default onespecial ed retard in all its glory. Not getting more attention from me until you post your untouchables.
>>725996020>doesn't understand artificial inflationDon't do a 50 year mortgage anon.
is clive really stronger than dante?
>>725996334
>>725953460ok but kingdom hearts 1 and 2 and bbs are good tho
>>725954345It's hard to tell if this webm was made deliberately for shitposting purposes or it's actually someone seriously thinking this gameplay was worth sharing
>>725993689Both extremes are wrong. If the player has no leeway then the action is illusory and you're playing a timed puzzle. If you don't have any restrictions then player agency becomes meaningless.Neither side leads to enjoyable or interesting action games. Both of them are stuck on step 1 and can't discuss anything more nuanced.
>>725994079Actually all heavies in the game are solved by perfect fatal flashes so ideally you wanna isolate them first or take out the fodder.
>>725997968how'd you go from block to parry like that? let go of block then hit it again?One of the things that's really bothering me is how they removed the old push-block input afaik
>>725998380Against that string in particular just block the first hit, release the block button, buffer X right after and it will always come out at the right time and parry the next hit. Naginata heavies have a similar string which they like to do to close the gap.
>>725999192dumb bitch
>>725992352There's a genre that's just perfect for this guy.
>C - Common Ninja>B - ???>A - Head NinjaWhy tf didn't they call it Ace Ninja ffffuuuuHaven't S-ranked anything yet. Had a few runs that felt like S-ranks but the game gave me an A.
>Start playing NGS>Fuck up immensely multiple times and die>Still get master ninjaWait what
>>726001348holy shit that's so much more damage I don't think these are worth it
>>725956221Not that hard since even vanilla 3 has better gameplay than DMC2 which has little to no gameplay and no real bosses
>>725990681When they are not enraged they are susceptible to shotguns, which will stagger them with each shot. Leg sweep also works on them, so you can use PPPKKK/PPPKP with shotguns on hands, to keep their aggression down.When enraged they don't give a damn about shotguns, and mostly only gunchucks will keep them staggered for most of the time.
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>>725990937>dodge offsetNot really helpful. >frequent use of tetsuzankoCheese strat like I mentioned>>725991336You pretty much can't unless you stay far away and only spam dodge offest wicked weaves.They give no breathing room to complete even a single PKP.>>726001819How are you supposed to manage with Scarborough fair? It's the only weapon I have fun with.
>>725953460>character actionHack n Slash.
>>725993256Nope 3D Beat 'Em Ups are stuff like TMNT Battle Nexus.
>>725954529It's tough having 2fags be the loudest because us BlackChads love NG4.
>>725963156There hasn't really been a bad Onimusha game and Capcom hsan't made anything like that in a while. I think it'll be good.
>>726006051No one loves NG4 stop lying.
>>725984636I never saw it in magazines up to around year 2008, they were calling them just action games which is also not helpful
>>726006790wrong
>>726005943That term is also used to describe Diablo clones and musous.
>>725994079They keep getting stronger each game. An NG5 Van Gelf would be a miniboss.
>>726007835>NG5 Van Gelf would be a miniboss.Fuck it, let's see it happen.
>>726004303> Not really helpful. Git gud.> How are you supposed to manage with Scarborough fair?Use All 4 One instead.On a serious note GnG is all about finding openers. You can bait them to trying to uppercut you = you can unleash a WW. Some of their recovery animations on the ground will result in you leg sweeping them.While they are amazing enemies as per design, the devs are buttfucking you with the arenas they're in.Oh, one more thing, lightning Durga on the feet will protect you from the lightning tails on the ground.
>>725953460>Ninja Gaiden boy and a Devil May Cry girlieThe former is a faggot and the latter is a dyke or transexual.No spawn will come out of those 2.
>>725954345Blader...
So do you guys feel about NG4 probably being the last classical style CAG that will ever be made?
>>726011863Probably.
>>726011863>>726012237Forgot to add how.HOW do you feel?
>>726011863Nah, another will get made. In like, 10 years.
>>726001606Getting ranks on older NG games is fairly easy compared to NG4.
>>726011863>So do you guys feel about NG4 probably being the last classical style CAG that will ever be made?DMC6 is guaranteed atp so we'll see that in like 3-5~ years
>>726011863Indies will keep making them, they're all Platinum can really make with a chance to sell decently, and Capcom will EVENTUALLY make more DMC even if it's way too long of a wait after 5 (coinflip between 6 and 1 Remake). I would also say Hi-Fi Rush will get a sequel eventually but news out of Krafton since they bought up Tango has been all bullshit so I'm worried for them.
>>725993195Do not neglect defense. Going too much on the offensive will get you killed.For parries, block first and when you get the timing down, hit that fatal flash.Keep you air time short. You have way less option both in terms of mobility and offense and more often that not you will be vulnerable.Blocking and Dodging are the safest options when swarmed.Do not hesitate to equip accessories.Use BB and Gleam. Their bars replinish suprisingly fast with obliterations.Use you items. Finishing a level takes priority over the no-item bonus.
>>726012791I think getting no deaths with a lot of item usage will still get you more score than tons of death with no item usage as well.
Sneedhand > Chuck Gaiden & Feed May Seed
Paint it black.
>>726011863Games are no longer being made for me. Ninja Gaiden 4 is the worst thing i've played in recent memory, hopefully it kills the IP before more games that cater to mentally ill and retarded zoomers get made.
>>726014574Farnham posts here? No way!
>>725953460>Could a Ninja Gaiden boy and a Devil May Cry girlie fall in love?absolutely, i'd smash with the power of 1000 UTs>What happens if their kid is a Kingdom Hearts fan?abort immediately
>>725953460Or you could be a bayonetta chad
>>726014932This
>>726009928>>726014932>>726015060fucking boring, i think 2 and 3 are better.
>>726014932>>7260150601 > Origins > 3 > 2Devastation & W101 are better than all of them.
>>726015162W101 is the best the genre has to offer. God Hand, NG Black, Bayo 2, ookami, Ninja Gaiden 4 , Nioh, that other team ninja game with the chink story are the worst the genre has to offer
>>726012771>Indies will keep making themuuuuh who?No seriously, DMC/Bayo/NG style action games are FAR beyond most indie studios capabilities I can't think of a single Indie game in that style
Blader going full schizo on twitter saying Action Games should have combos.
>>726015649NGBlack is so out there not even team ninja understand what made it good, so they made turbo zoomer slop with 4 lelele
>>726015649>can't think of a single Indie game in that styleYou haven't heard?
>>726015609>Ninja Gaiden 4>Worst than SoulsticeWHAT?
>>726015649Assault Spy (extremely DMC-esque)Magenta Horizon (Has a ton of NG's principles on top of a Style meter and its own original concepts, translated perfectly into 2D)GenokidsAztezEn Garde!Slave Zero X (the actual combat balance was really bad but it had the right spirit)Plus upcoming games like Enenra, Mightreya, and Varvarion among others that could end up good.There's even more if you count stuff on the fringes like beat-em-ups with combo systems (ex. Jitsu Squad), action platformers (ex. Gravity Circuit) and Ultrakill.>>726015959Not indie, but a great and underrated game that I like more than some of the actual NG games despite the clearly low budget. Shame it got delisted.
>have barely a handful of games in this genre to enjoy>choose to spend your time shitting on half of them instead of liking them allIt's like you people WANT to be miserable
What even is this combo? I haven't been able to recreate it and it's not on the movelist afaik
WHYWhy do the best action games have the worst forest levels!?!?!?
>>726015969Why would i care about literal AI AA games? it's slop>>726016143Looks so fucking stupid, literally made for the braindead zoomnigger generation
Pandora is the only good Dante weapon in 4(aside from CHADellion), everything else is just scuffed.
>>726016094>Enenra, Mightreya, and VarvarionOkay these actually look pretty cool. Enenra is kinda rough but as long as it plays well I'd buy it. I was aware of Varvarion (it's made by an ArcSys dev isn't it?) but never saw a proper level for it. Dungeon delving with action gameplay is defo a fun concept.thanks for the other recs, Aztez has been on my wishlist for way too long might as well just grab it>>726016134Anon you need to realize it's just one autist
>>726015609>Bayo2opinion discarded
>>726016275I get why people like 4Dante for how he controls but his arsenal is so fucking bad compared to 1, 3 & 5. Even Pandora is more conceptually cool than anything but a lot of the time you mostly just use the minigun since it's basically Rainstorm pointed up.
>>725953460Does anyone genuinely buy into this whole """rivalry"""? Wasn't it just opening salvo bait to post webms? Not to mention bringing up KH at all, that's straight from the mouth of XV-kun.I get that the board meta is a bitch, can't get a thread going without some incendiary opinions, but it's just silly at this point. What you really need is some fresh stuff, like pointing out how Hi-Fi Rush is a more complete package with no big fat caveats, unlike every single DMC and NG.
Every time I try playing bayo 2 or 3 I just end up going back to 1. Am I missing something or is the first game just the best one?
>>726016721Seethe, it's the smoothest Bayo by far>muh cancel hyper chungus comboNo one cares, why do you think 3 and 5 are considered the best DMC games over 4? These games are supposed to be stylish, bayo 1 is not stylish
>>726016873It is.
>>726016753No. I like character action games, simple as, dont really care about one 'winning' over the other because I'll just play and enjoy bothPeople who say shit like God of War or Prince of Persia belong to the conversation can fuck off though
>>725981458>You make fun of this, but this is how all of you playI'm a casual normal nigger, but I get double and triple S just from screwing around and having fun. Still mastering Dante's Quadruple S. I hesitate to try the harder modes because I hear they're more or less glorified bullet sponges, but hopefully that will turn out to be wrong. Hell, I even like V when most people hate him.>>725954345This is moronic. Don't webm in bad faith.
>>726016753>Hi-Fi Rush is a more complete package with no big fat caveats, unlike every single DMC and NG.Mediocre game, terrible balance, cringe reddit dialogue.Glad tango closed
>>726017005>No one caresDamn is that why 1 is vastly more popular and succesful than the other two?
>>726017013>People who say shit like God of War or Prince of Persia belong to the conversation can fuck off thoughHave you actually played them?
>>726017076Yes. They are at best beat'em ups, but they absolutely do not belong on the same category as NG or DMC or Bayo
>>726016873A father
>>726017125>They are at best beat'em upsI genuinely don't know what you mean by this when something like DMC or NG is closer to an arcade beat-em-up than those in terms of combat design.>do not belong on the same category as NG or DMC or BayoPrince of Persia sure, those games have always been platformers first with some combat mechanics for flavor, but the original GoW trilogy is absolutely the same kind of game as those three. You can argue it's shallow or poorly designed but it's still a combat-focused linear level-based action game with a bit of puzzling/platforming and doled out weapons/upgrades/metered abilities throughout the campaign.
>>726017013GoW can at least be grandfathered in thanks to all the "babby's first action game" jokes insert that one meme where Ryu teaches Kratos how to do non-square combos / ride a bicycle. It's the RYU RULES DANTE DROOLS posting that leaves me befuddled, as I am pretty sure it wasn't even a thing until 2022 at the earliest. Feels like anon bit the bait so hard they actually enjoyed it and started reposting it sincerely.
>>726017125https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixaes0kVlaghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i47SDdQbA4E
https://www.twitch.tv/maximilian_doodMax is getting filtered by the possessed dude optional boss on hard mode while trying to spam UT
>>726017870brown
>>726017882>I am better than a streamer (though I admit I shugged a lot of itzms in the final confrontation)Yay
>>726018506I seen few seconds and yeah you can tell he has never played ng.
>GoWtranny got triggeredUh oh!!!
>>726018624I'm sorry this happened to you Classic GOWfags.
Blader and neogeo8man are following each other on Xitter now, what does this mean for the future of the CAG community?
>>726018829classic gow was fucking garbage, modern gow is fun. No need to be sad about a bunch of brazilian retards
>>726018683>>726018829>>726019713
>>726020032Propaganda doesn't work lil sister, try it again when the burgers are online, they are as brown as you are now
>>725987802AGITATEDFAGGOTSAction Games Incorporating Totally Ambiguous Terribly Explained Depth For Anime(Autistic) Gamers Getting Off over Tedious Semantics.Talk to any motherfucker in that "niche" and ask them why x y or z don't fit in their made up category and they will give you a massive spiel about how it is mechanically not deep enough.
Just beat the game, love the changed title screen. Thought I'd have to use DDS for the fight but I just swapped to Yatousen.Gonna clear out the Purgatories, unlock everything in the movesets, then move on to Hard
>>726020518Who cares? Do it in black
Nice to see action game fags are as unhinged as ever, some things never change
fuck this trial 10 bs, I always get unlucky and don't delimb enough niggers FUCK
>>726020069
>>726020363>the namelol>give you a massive spielcan't believe i'm saying that, but i have way more positive opinions on anonymousthat's just not a rhetoric i've ever seen used, the closest being complaints about w101's gimmicks and kingdom hearts' rpg systems, and even then it was never preceded with THAT AIN'T NO TRUE SPECTACLE FIGHTER BECAUSE
>>726021612yeah QTEs are fucking cancer, GOW is known for being a QTE dogshit fiesta since the ps2 days. Problem schizo?
>>726020518Hard isn't hard on NG+, btw.
>>726018624>>726018565>>726020032One can appreciate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDXSYA1p6iE
>>726021713It's a QTE you can't fail, retard.
>>726021804in classic gow you repeat the cutscene, exact same cancer, completely mediocre games but the new ones are a bit better for sure.
>>726021941
>>726021680>Kingdom Heartsis not considered to fit their made up category to begin with.KH, DMC, NG, GoW fanboys have one thing in common and it's that they are at each other's throats at any given moment.>spectacle fighterthey hate that term."Who's they"The old Cuhrayzee Gays General a decade ago. I don't know if they still exist or it died like everything else.
>>726022003Propaganda doesn't work brownie. Modern GOW is a huge hit, old GOW was mocked by everyone for being a shitty moviegame too, it doesn't belong in the action thread. Go be the underage shizoid king and post it in the catalogue, do kids even care about brown GOW propaganda anymore?
GoWmongrels begone. Your mediocre series of button mashers will NEVER be on the same level at the greats of the genre>no additional systems beyond 'press buttons to do damage'>garbage extra weapons>QTEs out the ass>every game looks and plays the same>enemies are brainless punching bags>you can choose to make them drop health orbs, reducing the difficulty even further>no rating system>no reason to use more than two or three attack strings>mind-numbingly boring climbing/hanging/flying sections all over the placeI could go on.
>>726022040>KH, DMC, NG, GoW fanboys have one thing in common and it's that they are at each other's throats at any given moment.True but I like DMC1, DMC3SE, NG2 Demo Version, GoW, GoWII, GoWIII and GoWCoO and I don't have a tribalistic mindset. I'll finally play GoWGoS soon.
>>726022086I am 23 and white
>>726022218This is a better post
>>726022307And you are repeating brazilian propaganda. >whiteX
>>726018597>he has never played ng.Me neither lol.
>>726015156Genuine question - what makes you think that 2 is better than 1?
>>726022086>millions of flies eat shit so it must be goodlol>old GOW was mocked by everyone for being a shitty moviegame tooby "everyone" you mean the blue-haired dykes that only played 5 minutes of the demo, right?
>>726022307>zoomtardnigger>im ytnever and feel free to fuck off, old man website.>>726022679Presentation, better story, better action sequences, better gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0M8z5O0sVg
>>726017005I just remind you what if you will execute 360 + jump + kick in Bayo 1 this will result in air spinning kick on a ground level, while in 2 it will be the afterburner kick, unless you will disable it manually.> smoothest Bayo by farCan't initiate Torture Attack unless completely returns to neutral. Smooth as silk, as it seems.
>>726022879>assuming I'm like everyone else my agePerhaps the retarded one is you
>>726021746Honestly I just kinda want to use all the weapon's movesets since I didn't unlock everything Kinda shocked by how many Purgatory gates I missed
>>726022975Zoomtard, you are regurgitating brazilian copy pasta from 10 years ago
>>726023814>10 years agoBut the NuGoW games did not exist in 2015
>>726023814regurgitating a*
>>725953460Love these games. Though currently I'm so burned out from playing nothing but ng1-4 over the last 6 months that I'm playing dead or alive 5
>>726024030>dead or alive 5Play this instead
>>726024007not necessary grammar nazi retard midwit
>>726024123Dimensions is on my list. I'm pretty new to doa but LR feels incredibly good to play. Not that interested in story which seems to be the main draw of dimensions so I'll leave it for now
>>726016134This isn't a real genre dumbass.
>>726016143It's on the movelist.Light x4 heavy once and light x3, then you can either end it with Blade of Nirrti or Izuna drop
GoW bros... t-the next one will be good, right?
>>726024459No. Play the trilogy and the PSP games on the PS3 Slim.
Combat overgod dropped another kino
>>726024492I already have all the original games on the PS3.
>>726024549What do you think about each of them?
>>726024532His updated action tier lost is bretty good
>>726024459never been good, ragnarok is as good as its going to get
I really love ng2 level design, they remind me of old tekken/doa stages
>>726024703>I-IT WAS NEVER GOODYour revisionism will never workYou didn't play the games btw
Kinda having a hard time delimbing as Yakumo. Yatousen shits out damage once you start comboing with it thoughThere's a achievement for "Deal a lot of damage with Yatousen" and I honestly don't know how I'm supposed to get it took like 70% off a bosses health bar using the drill + BB finisher and still didn't get it
>>726024828Playing the games fixes that, once they realize the originals had like 10-15 minutes of movie slop they'll understand that GOW has been ridiculed for it's baby gameplay and movie cutscenes since ancient times. At least the gameplay of the new one is fun.
>>726024976You never played the games though so your opinion really doesn't matter
>>726025035Have you played the games? Odd how the cherrypicked gamelpay always ignores all the movie slop and constant QTE garbage from the originals
>>726025075>slop
>>726025387You are a 24 year old retard that got propagandized by a bunch of brazilian shitposting l to the fucking mao
>>726024956The description is misleading, I got the achievement for killing like 5 enemies with the berserk l3 r3 finisher.
>>726025075>Have you played the games?Yes??? They're so much better than modern cinematic goyslop, I'd recommend these games anytime over the reddit cuckshit that is NuGoW
>>726024532>puts SoP in S tierZased....
>>726025875>Essentials versionsNTA but I'm just saying that's quite unfortunate
>>726025875You mean that they're good, right?
>>726025875>comic sansHaving a laff mate?
>>726026318eh, as long as the game is the same I don't really care>>726026393hell yeah, brother, real fun action games, you don't get anything like that nowadays, they'd cover all the women with burkas to not insult "modern audiences"
>>726026530>they'd cover all the women with burkas to not insult "modern audiences"I personally don't care one way or the other about the sexual parts of this series but this is very true
>>726026530You should watch this video>>726022881
>>726021539finished every trial except this one, man this shit is tough
>>725965179>third worlderThis is how koreans talk about you when you complain about p2w in their games
>>726025875>PS2 PAL
Remember how in DMC5 they locked the motorcycle's best move behind its DLC version? That was really fucking gay.
>>726024532>>726024619>>726026208His list is like 80% what mine would look like with a few things that I don't agree with at all, but that's what makes it interesting. The appreciation for SoP, ZOE2, Devastation, Kunitsu-Gami, Urban Reign, Rollerdrome, Rising Zan, Samurai Jack & Evil West is very based though.
>>726028114So many of the corporate side decisions on that game borderline ruin it.
>>726028114A pre order bonus to boot. And you couldn't use it in BP.
>>726009928That webm perfectly represents why I hate them>spam dodge and cancel every single one of your moves until you get a wicked weaveThis is just not fun. Like what's the point of even having any other moves at that point?
>>726027786modded, actually, so I can play both, I just buy whatever games are available, I don't care about your PAL vs NTSC wars
>>726009928>rollslop
>>726028586I just want you to have a smooth gaming experience anon
>>726028114Extremely gay>Fastest move>Lets you air cancel>Pretty the best move for CavaliereAlso I'm still assblasted Capcom never ported the special editions features (sans vergil) to pc. I know mods fill the hole but that was Ultra gay
>>726028281>urban reignWish more action enjoyers would play this. Also love for Jack's game is always appreciated
>>726029272it is too much of a fighting game for action gamers and too much of an action game for fighting gamers.
>>726029628I like both. The world needs more games that blur the line between action and fighting. Or just 3d brawlers in general with deep movesets. I'd love to see more tekken force type stuff as full games.
I am not brown damn it
>>726030654Why do you have a toddler's handwriting
>>726030818Autism
>>726030854Fair enough
Finally done, now on to S ranking the MN after a break
>>726031286Based. I burned out after finishing all trials. Only on mission 10 on MN. Need to finish that.
>>726028281>Evil WestAny thoughts on this? It LOOKS really cool.On Jack's game, I really wanted to like it but fuck man it feels so dull
>>726031549>Any thoughts on this? It LOOKS really cool.It's not the deepest thing in the world but it manages to use the over-the-shoulder camera well in a melee-focused game and is just plain cool to do stuff in (shoot a lightning bolt, dash to an enemy, launch them, fan your gun to juggle, jumping punch to send them flying, shit like that). Has a bit of the modern "cycle through your abilities" design but not super rigid, enemy variety is pretty good, bosses range from inoffensive to very good, and the story is the perfect level of camp you'd want from a Cowboys vs Vampires game, plus it's fully co-op. 7-8/10 depending on your tastes IMO.>On Jack's game, I really wanted to like it but fuck man it feels so dullHow far did you get? The systems give you a TON to work with once you have enough Jobs/skills and until you hit credits you can usually just auto-equip and then make small adjustments to hit certain Job Affinity thresholds. Dash Canceling while switching Jobs is super satisfying to me. I'd say at least get past Tiamat if you haven't if not hit credits, it really ramps up in the last act (and that includes the story).
I still like NG4 and my opinion likely won't change much at this point..But I just got to the Ryu part and, what the fuck. He's weak ?!? Did they do this on purpose? He barely has enough moves to do anything at all, and unlike Yakumo is command moves barely delimb, and somes like the <>X barely even hit sometimes. Where's his aoe Gleam move? Can any of them be charged or something? I must have missed something, there's no way. He feels like shit to play.I remember people saying he's at least strong and should make MNM easier, wha??am I playing a different game or what?and I got Master ninja rank on that level first try, it's not a skill issue, is just that clearly I have to work harder to clear rooms compared to Yakumo, and his moves feels so weak I feel like I can only do nothing but spam UTs with him. I'm a bit surprised.This goes beyond a weapon issue at this point. It doesn't matter how many more wep they give him imo if they have so little option each. Lol if I was one of those people who seems gay for Ryu and only seems to play NG for him, I would be SEETHING.
>>726031549>Evil Westnugow but without the bullshit. highest difficulty is CBT
>>726028341Use shotguns or gunchucks. The latter allows you to mindlessly buttonmash punches even if they're enraged. Moon of Maha Khaala also exists.
>>726031992Nta but SoP is such a sandbox arpg. So much to explore since potential for synergy between affinities and commands us through the roof. My only complaint is it leans too much into rpg late rifts with one shot builds being encouraged at which point engaging with combat takes a backseat
>>726032151>what the fuck. He's weakRyu in 4 is an absolute murder machine. There's a reason everyone uses him for trials and replays. He just turns everything to red mist
>>726015609nioh especially nioh 2 is a modern masterpiece that combined many genre and stand on its own
>>726032573Trvth
>>726032151Ninja Gaiden 4 is a humiliation ritual for everything related to Ninja Gaiden, all to promote Platinum's massively hyped and beloved new OC Yakum, who is superior in every way and will carry the franchise into the future. The whole game is a Yakumian conspiracy.
>>726032934
I like ng4 but i do think that it would've worked way better as a spin off title like yaiba and dragonblade than a mainline Hayabusa game
>>726032151>I feel like I can only do nothing but spam UTs with himSounds like a skill issue. Between gleam cancels and how busted back forward x is, ryu is a slaughter house.
>>725953460More surprised that Kingdom Hearts never got a true action game despite having different attempts for its side games. What a waste and by now no one cares about Kingdom Hearts as its a dying brand.
>>726024532the only goy I watch on jewtube, quality stuff every time
>>725953460If you could make an action hack and slash game for any series what would you select? For me Kid Icarus and Legend of Zelda. You can get so much mileage out of these two properties. Real shame that Koei Tecmo has made three Zelda games and NONE of them are action but instead Dynasty Warrior knock offs.
>Turn off all of the Visual "aids">Become parry buddhaIts that simple.>>726032151>But I just got to the Ryu part and, what the fuck. He's weak ?!?In what fucking way?
>>726032151>He's weakAre we playing the same game?
>>726032151dude ninposlop alone makes him OD
>>726032151>He's weak ?!?Nah, ryu might be toned down compared to his other game appearances but he's more busted compared to Yakumo even without Gleam cheese you also have his busted ninpo
>>726024532He already exposed himself as a clueless subhuman fraud with his 3RE video which for 99% was just him parroting the reddit hearsay and conventional wisdoms. The remaining 1% was outright wrong things no actual player would EVER say. The gameplay in his footage was suicide inducing to look at, too. So yeah not wasting my time on his NG 4 video, still opened to give it a dislike though. Gross poisonous parasite, and his audience is no better.
>>726032151>He's weak ?!?Huh? Ryu is overwhelmingly strong in 4. It's like playing a boss character
>>725953460You know what's funny? Despite obviously trying to change into an action game series Final Fantasy NEVER hired the actual creatives who make action games and before you say "Devil May Cry guy made FF16!" I mean the WHOLE team itself not one dude.
>>726033787>Gross poisonous parasite, and his audience is no betterThis but for mork
>>726033318Why is back forward x busted?
>Raven Master>a uniform bestowed upon those of the Raven Clan worthy of the title of Master Ninja. A symbol of unmatched prowess and countless blood-soaked battles endured by its wearer.Sounds like something you unlock at the end that got turned into a DLC lmao.
>>726033898This. Mork is everything >>726033787 saysAt least overview doesn't pretend to be a GOD KNOWLEDGE player of action games
why is the itagaki avatarfag avatarfagging with anime girls now
>>726034228AGP
I'm on the final chapter on Master Ninja now, game has been actionkino, I will continue playing after I finish Master Ninja.
>>726032573I've started playing Nioh 2 and it really does feel like a more complete game of it's own than a souls clone in any sense, which seems to be what most people refer to it as.
>>726033950Yeah honestly it'd fit as say a Trials unlock, I bet that's what it was before.I'm waiting on the evil Yakumo skin though, surprised we got a DDO Yak before that.>>726034419Nioh 1 had a soulsy feel I'd sayAnyone with a lick of sense wouldn't list N2 alongside Soulslikes though
>>725953460>What happens if their kid is a Kingdom Hearts fanClive Rosfield, the guy from Tekken
Discussions of games in the stylish hard action genre (the true name of the genre pic related) was difficult because it was filled with frauds who don't play games and want to be seen as knowledgable about these games to strangers online. Though they never post S-Ranks, at least they try to learn the games. Now it's dominated by people like Mork and Blader who only exist to make hot takes to grow their platforms, and now discussion is dominated by people who don't play the games.
>>726034750>pic related>No pic??????
>deadnaming on an anonymous imageboardthe board has always been a transphobic shithole but this is a new low
>>726034750Fuck, I forgot pic related. Yes, it's either stylish hard action or J-Action. Don't argue with me. Argue with Kamiya.
>>726033889FFXVI could've been a really fun game if they just dropped any pretenses of it being an RPG and just made a really tight 10-12 hour action game. Instead they had to pretend this is still an RPG franchise so had to pad it out with mind numbing side quests and poorly tacked on rpg mechanics.
>>726034865Better yet, they should have given SOP a bigger budget and made that FFXVI since it does a better job at combining RPG and Action. FFXVI should have been the spin-off.
>>726034750>BladerThat brownoid was in the spotlight for all of 2 weeks for posting retarded opinions like action games shouldn't have combos and even then discussions are around how retarded he is instead of any game discussion
>>726035087This pretty. SoP was basically everything 16 tried to be. Fuck just give action based FF games to TN now.
Action games shouldn't have combos.
>>726022218Gow cucks btfo
Team Ninja ≥ Platinum >> Capcom >>> Itsuno at Capcom
>>726034865XVI plays better if you skip all the side-quests and just do the Hunts Boards + Ivalice trials.I actually enjoy it quite a bit as an action game, especially once you get Odin. There's also the Ultimania trials that I'll get to eventually..>>726035087I liked XVI's combat a lot more than SOP.Maybe I'm just allergic to Nioh but I just can't get into SOP or Nioh. They're so rooted to the ground and the animations just aren't very good.
>>726032209>My only complaint is it leans too much into rpg late rifts with one shot builds being encouraged at which point engaging with combat takes a backseatI think it works to SOP's benefit. Jack is one of the most powerful characters in the FF lore. By that point, he's nearing the final cycle and reaching the peak of his power. Jack being overpowered makes sense since he's Chaos, the god who can 1v10 the main FF heroes and can only be defeated by divine intervention from the player. By the time Jack breaks the game, you're already knee deep into late-postgame.But I would like to see a SOP2 that leans towards action more. Would be great if Firion were the MC since he's a weapon master who can learn anything including Ultima, Holy, etc. And because he's not a literal god like Jack, it would be easy to make a balanced action game around his kit.
>>725953460>character actionI hate that this retarded shit is still trying to be a thing
>>726011863Koreans will make Khazan 2 and everything will be CLEAN
>>726035353Team Ninja is in their own tier because they are the only ones who can do level design. >Vigoor in NGB>Sekigahara in Nioh 1Nuff said
>>726033720Ah, I see, I didn't have his ninpo yet. I'll spend time in training too.That was just my first impression, thanks all for the tips!
Budget synthetic man said ng4 sucks so I won't play it
>>726035915I really hope Nioh 3's levels are designed like big NGB levels, it would be amazing
>726036036>he lets his e-daddy dictate what he should playLOL, LMAO EVEN
After playing neo twewy and baldr sky I realized how fucking amazing the idea of locking new moves behind usage of existing moves is.It's a really great method to encourage players to experiment with the whole moveset
>listening to blader Grim
>>726036280>After playing neo twewy and baldr skyFucking based btw. This nigga walked into the thread with a 54" long DICK and proclaimed "my tastes in games are based btw."
>>725963156NG4 is great.
>>726032209In some areas the balance could be more finetuned to make them harder to achieve and open the playing field, but building for one shots is still a player choice. The game gives more than enough options for building to succeed at any point even in endgame 300+ rifts without disregarding the combat or opting for excess damage builds that kill bosses in under a minute.
Is emulating Black worth it over playing Sigma even if I don't really care for puzzles? I like the exploration a lot and there's plenty of it in Sigma, but I wonder if I'm missing anything in terms of gameplay other than said puzzles.
>>725998380They do have a similar on block counter that you can use mid blockstring, but it costs meter. Just tap the Bloodraven button while blocking.
>>726034551On top of that, Raven Master looks so much more mature.I love the leaner appearance.
>>726037576If you don't care about puzzles or inclusion of rachel chapters then I'd just stick to sigma.
>>725953460>Character Action Gamesdumbest name ever alongside boomer shootersboth genres deserve to be dead
>>726037576I actually beat NGB recently via xemu. Honestly there's not much of a difference between them unless you really don't like Sigma's additions and changes
>>726033950Definitely orders from above by Koei Tecmo. Fatal Frame II remake is also doing the "series that historically had unlockable outfits now puts them as pre-order bonus and deluxe edition DLC" thing, and that one is worse because it's a remake and costumes you unlocked in the original are now DLC.
>>726024123Nintendo 64 could get DoA1
>>726020363What game did you ask about? I think it should be pretty obvious what's in the genre and not. Something like batman arkham wouldn't fit. Those games are a genre unto themselves that share similarities with mad max, ass creed, sleepng dogs to a degree (sleeping dogs has a little more to it but still not the same genre as ng, totally different game. The genre people call "CAG" (terrible name) are more like FIGHTING GAMES in their design, except you aren't on a 2d plane, or some limited plane entirely oriented around 2 fighters.
So wait DDS is just the base TDS without combat actions and it's BR+A casts a weird arc that drains your meter?Isn't that like objectively worse than every other weapon in Yakumo's arsenal?
>>726039404When you unlock it after completing the boss trials you can get the back to forward moves as well.It's less powerful than the Dragon Sword, but it's still quite good and it's very good to use in combos while weapon switching.
>>726039404Yeah but it's just a story setpiece thing. The one you can unlock in the post game has the full moveset.
>>726030854based
>>726038672Suck to suck, meh.
>>726033241Post it on /a/
A little bit if advice for NG4, at least on hard.You can one tap the lantern with Takeminakata's perch swing.
>>725996020F u t a
>game doesn't tell you how to use ninpogreat. fantastic
>>726044414ninjas just know how to use ninpo though
OP here;Damn this thread's been up for almost 24hrs, hope you guys are having a wonderful Sunday!
>>726041667>Takeminakata's perch swing.W H A T (is this move)>>726044414the same way you use BR projectiles buddy
>>726037576Black and Sigma 1 really aren't very different at all. The biggest differences are things like "Oh this door is locked and needs a key to open it" and there's only like 2 other rooms you could go to for the key to be in. Meanwhile in Sigma the door is just unlocked. And these only happen a handful of times in the entire game. The only thing I would say Black genuinely does better is the fact it doesn't have the stupid motorcycle enemies.
Please god can we get a native pc port of NGB? Fucking around with Xemu is such a pain in the ass.
Will Nioh 3 add jumping?
>>726045145Hello OP.I am almost finished with Ninja Gaiden 4 on Master Ninja, I have reached the final boss.>>726046430Yes, the demo had jumping.
>>725981458Lol speak for yourself shitter
>>725981458dude I can hit a launcher into xxy at least
>>726045980you vill play the sigma
>>726047483sigma balls
>>726045980just buy an xbox one s
I think it's time to start another NG2 MN playthrough.
>>726046430Yes and they even showed wall jumping up a shaft in one of the gameplay previews.
>>726045980I wish we did get a native port of Black on PC so all the posers who preach about it could actually play it for the first time and realise it's almost identical to Sigma
>>726033971>At least overview doesn't pretend to be a GOD KNOWLEDGE player of action gamesHe does though. When a guy makes videos covering gameplay by reading the game manual and tutorial prompts outloud, then yes it's implied he has more than a surface level of understanding of those mechanics. Maybe he should shill his videos more so he finally gets exposed as another fraud pretending to be good at games.
it's making me irrationally upset that NG4 boss trial ranks are literally all decided on how many times you can backlash parry.
>>726048976It wouldn't be an NG game if it didn't have a dogshit ranking system
>>726045246>W H A T (is this move)(BB) A > X with the dual sword.
>>726048785>When a guy makes videos covering gameplay by reading the game manual and tutorial prompts outloud, then yes it's impliedtake your medsbut then you are a bunch of underages watching e-retards
>>725956221
>>726049901I turned all on-screen prompts off before I even started the game so I didn't even really notice the QTEs, probably some of the best most seamless QTEs in action, and they're cool too.
>>726049901That's not X
>>726048785Meds
>>726049307thanks
>>726049803>>726050894You sound scared.
>>726048785dude the channel is called combat overview
>>726050772thats the first pic i found of the shit gamei didn't take any when i played RE (and i didn't remember that part either. i remember the jet part)
>>726049901as opposed to NG2 which is hold Y to not die
I want DMC6 to be like Ninja Gaiden Black but designed around Nero's moveset.
>>726053967Me too actually.
>>726053967I want DMC6 to be a spinoff sequel to DMC3 but Nero and Dante run a pizza parlor and you have a hand-to-hand/pizza based style
>>726034865If FFXVI had the gameplay of Jack's game it would have actually been good.
>>726053967>>726054748Ready for Viola being new protagonists?
>>726054989Nah. XVI needed better structure.The stages were mediocre at best, the open fields were pretty crappy and the content in those fields sucked as well.
>>726053967>want DMC6 to be like Ninja Gaiden BlackDMC1 was the answer all along.
>>726036280this is why i liked the old tales games. to unlock new moves you have to have high usage of previous moves and also combination of different ones
>>726048785>another fraud pretending to be good at games.He cleared NGII MNM thougheverbeit.
>>726053967>DMC>With a block buttonI am very mixed about this. If Nero re-appear, then they 100% should make rev into a single button action and make it work like Yakumo's Hammer and Box.
>>726058848>With a block buttonAnon...Your royal guard?
>>725954345delete that
>>726058920Tbh, I find the style system to be goofy in retrospective.>We didn't know what do with that extra button, so we'll let the player choose what it will do.
>>725954529I'm about 2/3rds of the way through NGB and there's no way I'm going to like it more than 2.
>>726048976I S-ranked all boss trials on MN without a single backlash and I even used items in all but one. The scoring is lenient as fuck and the bosses have too little HP in this game.
is bullet witch a character action game/CUHRAZY game? is it worth getting?
>CAG thread>nigger retards get insanely territorial over whose favorite dead franchise is more cheesable
>>726022218Truth nuke
Tips for NG4 MNM? Had to put the game down for a couple of days after dying while using Gleam X to break the attack of a different enemy.I'm already pissed at the "difficulty" being you die in two hits AND the game punishing you for daring to use the items it shits at you. This should have been Ultimate Ninja, and platinum needs to stop putting items in games if they fucking hate you using them.
>>726061035If you just want to clear MN than who cares about getting punished for using items? I spammed items the whole time and still got mostly B rank with a few C's.
>>726060560It's very janky and buggy, depends on your tolerance for that. Like it can softlock your save kind of buggy.If you like stuff like WET, Devil's Third, GunZ, Drakengard, then give it a shot.
>>726061035They don't hate you using them, they're just not gonna call you a god gamer if you need more than 5 for a level.They could have done score deduction based on damage taken instead of items used instead for similar effect, but I guess they want to encourage you to heal using other methods like charms and Umi.
The Master Raven outfit looks so good. II just know that it was supposed to be unlocked at the end of the story and KT made it DLC instead, but I can't prove it.
>>725994079>that one trial without BR mode>two of these motherfuckers show upI'm going fucking insane!
>>726061035>This should have been Ultimate NinjaNah, it's really not THAT hard. You just need to get used to the new mechanics. It's not even the hardest MNM in NG. Not the easiest either, but not the hardest.
>>726062291Got to learn that perfect fatal flash for the instant delimb.
Can you use Yakumo in the Ryu chapters through chapter select?
>>726062291Jump away and do UT.
>>726062778Yeah
Just completed Master Ninja in 4.Great game, it's my GOTY.As an action game I would say it's A-tier and if the DLC is really really good then it might even be able to go into S-tier. But the DLC has to like REALLY good for that, and I am not expecting them to add that much, maybe it will get to be A+.
>>726063470I hope Ryu get at least two weapons and more mission with just him.Also, Yakumo should wear his Raven Master outfit by the end of the story. Its normally the Master Ninja outfit for the Ravens.
>>726061279>>726062576>ask for tips on specifically what works>"just git gud bro"And no, no other MNM makes you insta die this fast on NG+. I know I can item spam my way through, that's not what the post was asking about.Was there anything you found particularly useful besides item spam? Example: A specific weapon combo versus a Van Gelf? Or is platinum expecting me to perfect parry ->perfect flash everything?>>726061880>literally reduces your end score by 20% if you use 1 item in anything you do>not even allowed a short damage boost in trialsThe game is recording down that you're playing the game incorrectly you are using a part of your arsenal.
>>726064152I just said that because I personally used items. The defence one was a huge help for me in boss fights because it solves the 2-shot problem, and I know even without them I wouldn't be getting a good rank anyway.Otherwise I used Ryu because I've heard he does more damage and Ninpo was really useful.
>>726064152Guillotine throw is extremely powerful in 4. Get your BR/Gleam punishes on point.With Yakumo BR Lunge light with the dual blades is a very good opener to most encounters. If you're in the air then BR Charge heavy dual blades into air gleam heavy with DDB is also a very good safe move.Air gleam heavy in general is a very very good move. I like the strings that push enemies away from you in the air and then follow it up with air gleam heavy.Blocking is powerful. Try to learn parries more instead of perfect guard though.Big enemies like Naginata heavy DDO soldier, Van Gelf and that other big ass dude deal crazy damage, but their attacks tend to be some of the most easy to parry compared to smaller enemies so try to practice in the training mode.
>>726064896>>726064152You can still get SSS ranks with using items.If you care about score lots then save Berserk for when you can on landing UT a big group of enemies.Berserk UTs net you crazy amounts of score.I got some A ranks even with the 0.5 dying score detraction, so if I had used items and not died I could've gotten Master Ninja Rank.UT's also pause the Berserk timer so you can get 2, maybe 3 or even 4 UTs off in a single Berserk if you are really lucky with your orbs. This will get you lots of score.
What the fuck do I have to do to not be raped by the explosion niggas in NG2B
>>726066035Don't get hitTry not to die
>>726053967>but designed around Nero's movesetBut DMC5 is already designed around Nero's moveset? Dante and Vergil's swords were redesigned to work more like Red Queen and they have a bunch of leveled mechanic like Exceed. Dante's summoned swords even give him a version of Nero's DT abilities.>>726058848Dante, Vergil and Nero already have block abilities.>>726059089>We didn't know what do with that extra buttonIt wasn't that. What happened is that they took DMC1 as the base for DMC3's gameplay but they kept the extra stuff from that game and DMC2 as the styles. So moves like Inferno, Twosome Time, the dashes, air combos, and time stop all became styles.
>>726064896>used RyuSo, your clear wasn't even an All Chapters one? I'm far better with Ryu as well, bu I only did chapter 1 and as Yakumo.>>726064963>"yes, platinum is expecting everyone to perfect parry and perfect counter everything"Great...At least it doesn't sound like any of the "main" effective moves require the other weapons' innovative "fuck up you combo if you hold the button right" mechanic.>>726064896>>726065219Can I get an honest answer from everyone? Just how many times are you dying to get through MNM the first time? Again, the fucking game NEEDS to highlight how many times you died every chance it gets, including the ninja records.
>>726066663They are not expecting you to perfect parry everything at all. I did Master Ninja and barely perfect parried any of the big enemies outside of the glaive wielding DDO heavies a couple of times. The vast majority of all my deaths were to the bosses because most of them can 2 shot you even without getting hit by power attacks.Stop whining
>>726066663I just did all the chapters you can pick in the Chapter Select menu and got the achievement for it, and 100% MN clear in the Ninja Records.I died about 5 times on average (some levels 1 or 2 deaths, others up to 9 times, most around 4-6 and then level 12 I died 18 times)
>>725954345Like all the enemies in this game are like this too. And when an enemy does have an aggressive attack, they telegraph it up the ass
If you have to play through the campaign one or two times before it gets good then its a shit game
>>726067070>post literally advises "you need to get used to perfect parry over perfect block" and get your punishes down>the only guaranteed delimb is also the perfect parry perfect counterPlatinum is doing it's thing again, and I'm not going to stop noticing. Again, I can live with it more since none of the moves mentioned were the ones that literally sabotage you if your thumb lingers on the button for a nanosecond too long in BR.
>>726066081Wow thank you Ayane I am a Master Ninja now thanks to your advice
>>726068428This is a skill issue. I never needed to perfect parry
>>726068546Then argue with the anon who said you did, nigger, not the person summarizing the post.
>>726064152You can still get SSS with 1.0, so you're objectively incorrect, it's a bonus for not using, not the baseline. If you don't use items at all you get a pat on the back, if you use up to 5 that's normal, if you use more you're playing suboptimally.You also don't get the highest score if you use stealth, but they have entire encounters designed specifically for that on chapter 5, do they hate you for using that too? That makes no sense.
>>726066575>But DMC5 is already designed around Nero's moveset?The moveset is designed around the moveset, the levels aren't designed around anything in particular, they kinda gave up on that front. That's what I mean. I want traversal and gimmick encounters designed to require Nero's moveset to beat instead of a straight line with fights. That's what I mean with the NGB comparison. Being Nero only is so they can go all out and require you to use his moves to beat the levels instead of making them so you can go through everything with the DLC characters later.
>>726068742"Pat on the back" is the no hit runs and death wish runs.Your end score isn't reduced by 20% for assassinating one guy.
>>726069224If you assassinate people they don't call reinforcements and you're blocked from getting 100% kills on that level.Your end score isn't "reduced" by 20% because you're not entitled to the highest score, you have to earn it. Play perfectly and get the highest score. Playing perfectly does mean you don't need items. But they don't expect you to play perfectly or hate you for not playing perfectly, this is just your terminal autism talking.
>>725986975>I like the term CAG. It makes it clearThey are not what they used to be
>>726069419>could block you from 100% kills that could affect your score>vs guaranteed 20% deficit on one useAdmit it's not the same, and it's not a good analogy. Especially if they don't give you a bonus at 100%, because you can get Full Score without 100% kills. If it was really a "pat on the back", 20% of the score wouldn't hinge on it. If Platinum wasn't so allergic to items, they would have made it a static number instead of a %
>>726069419>But they don't expect you to play perfectly>you die in two hits, not one, see? not "perfect"You know that even Dante Must Die modes were more nuanced than this balancing.
>>726071401It is a pat on the back since SSS rank doesn't rely on it. You don't need 0 items to beat the game, you don't need 0 items to get all the achievements, you don't need 0 items to get SSS, 0 items is only for getting extra score beyond that.The game is not designed around max score, you don't need to be on top of the leaderboards to beat the game. Score attack is an extra on top.You also lose a lot of points with a high completion time, but the game has side missions, equipment you can find, purgatories off the beaten path, it is designed for players to take their time and explore to get all the content, then, after that, if you want max score, you rush through the level as fast as you can.Yes, a perfect run is fast, uses no items, and has zero deaths. The game is still designed around players using items, dying and taking their time exploring.
>>726072137I'm only talking about score, if you just think Master Ninja damage should be lower, then I agree. Or at the very least the defensive items should be stronger, so you get to lower it significantly if you give up on offensive charms, that would be fair. But they don't make enough of a difference in my testing.
>>726050364That's because they're all directly analogous to the inputs you would use in the game, like in that image where it is simply the dodge input when you would dodge. Many instances allow multiple possible inputs as well and most don't kill you for failure, some don't even harm you and are just opportunities for extra damage/kills.
The drill is completely busted with the 1 slot charm buff, it destroyed the shark.
>>726072893So we agree on the major thing.What now? Do we listen to metal or something?
>>726076117
>>726073185Bets that certain weapon charms will be native aspects in NG4:Second Attempt?The overhaul that happened between NG3 and RE was kind of crazy.
>>726063187Thanks, anong.
>>726076664I really don't think we're getting a Razor's Edge or Sigma for 4, but I really hope I'm wrong. It just seems like it bombed really hard.
>>725953460>character actionShut up nigger
>>726077601Compared to 3? i also thought RE was made specifically to fix it because it wasn't good
>>726078824Probably not compared to 3, but back then Team Ninja didn't have much else, salvaging NG3 was them being desperate to not lose their biggest single player franchise. Now they have Nioh.
>>725953460Wish she get GameCube spin off
>>725986492Most genre names are vague. You fight in 99% of games but "fighting game" has a distinct meaning in this context. Stylish action is the term coined by a pioneer of the genre and doesn't sound like pretentious video essay redditspeak.
>>726073358 Only if it's Doom's soundtrack and we make eye contact the whole time while customizing our loadouts. Honestly though, mutual agreement on game design philosophy? That calls for a shotgun solo and a sip of liquid courage. Queue up some Mick Gordon and let’s pretend balance patches don’t ruin everything.
I wish ng2 had ninja trial instead of ninja race
>>726082493The real NG2 has Survival which is better than both of those.
>>726084206Based
>>725962717I would literally cry and cum myself into a raisin
>>725970103Yeah, it's almost always annoying and counter to fluidityGod hand did it great though
PLEASE PRAY FOR ITAGAKI's SOUL TODAYtoday in Japan he will be tried for Lies. As with all trials, the ten kings of hell will judge him one by one every 7 days until the 49th day.They listen to our prayers. Let's help Itagaki reincarnate!
>>726078780Watch your language.
>@fiendbusa 4 hours ago>Shame ragebaiter is voice of communityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5PrbFqnKwk
>>726024030>>726024249Make sure to play 2 Ultimate and 3
>>726032573Word
>>726015609>ookamiLmao>Nioh badGet real
>>726033787He seems like a poser just by his video titles and channel name
>>726036068After Nioh 2 I will eat whatever they dish out
am playing astral chain after getting influenced into getting it after ninja gaiden 4its fun
>>726066035I don't think we've found an answer to that question yet.
>>726087748Underrated little game.
TEU EXPOSEDhttps://youtu.be/F5PrbFqnKwk
>>726024532>1st Onimusha at S tier, but 2nd or 3rd game are nowhere to be found>Puts Dawn of Dreams at C tier>Also TWEWY is at c-tier for some fucking reasonWhere do you retarded niggers keep finding these random youtubers?
>>726086668Is this the fall of Mork?
SoMusou gamesDo they fit?
>>726092434Only the ones that let you play as Ryu.
>>726092434>>726007371By >>725986975 then even LEGO games would fit.
>>725954345You can do this with every game you stupid fuck
>>726092434Ng2 is a musou game
What are some other good hack n slashes that isn't DMC, NG, Bayonetta, GoW, MGR? Name some stuff more obscure. Bonus points if the MC is a sexy chick.
>>726093231Marlow Briggs
>>726092434no>>726093231shinobi ps2
Get ready for hour long combat overview of nioh2
>>726093231>Bonus points if the MC is a sexy chickNightshade
>>726093231>Bonus points if the MC is a sexy chick.
>>726093383N what???
>Keep getting Bs and Cs in NG4How do I get good with perfect blocking or just blocking in general? I just spam dodge.
>>726093497Have you tried just using the said block buttonYou don't have to get perfects every time, NG games are blocking territory not dodging
>>726093497Block first, think about the "perfects" later. You don't have to perfect guard/perfect dodge/parry the first hit of a string, and enemies that you'll want to parry are not the kind of enemies who will do one hit and sit still.
I played KH1 the other week on PROUD and realized, noticed, observed, DEDUCED, that you can heal spam with iframes and beat every fight easily. And so I did that.
>>726093474Nigger
>>725982919I think Yahtzee came up with that name but I'm not sure.
Well this scary dude was relatively easy considering all I did was jump around and jump towards him and attack occasionally
>>725982919As far as I understand it's originally JP arcade lingo, so literally specifying that you control a character instead of a space ship or a cursor/paddle like Pong. So, Mario Bros. (1983) or Ghosts n' Goblins would fall under character-action because they're action focused games about controlling a character, literally. How it came to refer specifically to 3D genre-blending beat-em-ups, I have no clue.
is shadow of mordor/war and a character action game and if not, why not?
>>725974059modern /v/ is too busy peddling micro e-celeb grifters and circle jerking every woke game.no time for actual vidya or vidya talk.
>>726097431it doesn't have combos so it must be a top tier cag
Not a thing, it's called third person action game
>>725963156I'm afraid is going to be too easy
>>726097609but it does have combos? you have a hit counter in shadow of war and a might meter
Ninja Gaiden's 1 camera is inexcusably dogshit, but I can't stop playing it because it's as fun as it is frustrating.
>>726098838yeah it's mid, use camera reset more to make it bearable>>726097808erm... it doesn't count...
What mods do i need for sigma2?
>>726098924get 0.14 as its closer to og NG2https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/386this is just for nicer menushttps://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/248?tab=files
