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How much would you spend for the Steam Cube
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>>725989041
No more than 300 dollars
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>>725989041
Nothing because i'm poor as fuck and only playing games on my tube TV because my office tier LCD screens look like melting shit constantly in motion.
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$0 because I neither want nor need it.
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>>725989041
i dont have money anyway so it doesnt matter
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it's probably tied to a video game streaming service so $0 fuck that thing
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I have a PC, why the fuck would I buy that?
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If it beats out the budget for a 8700G shitbox I was thinking of slapping together, sure.
My desktop is old enough that it's already better than it, and I'd like something smaller.
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>>725989126
In your dreams
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>>725989041
I would only buy one if it's really cheap as a curiosity, because I don't actually have a good use case for one. If it were like $400 I'd probably grab one just to fuck around for a bit and then probably not actually use, I already have a far faster PC. I don't think it's going to be that cheap though.
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at most 600.
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$5-600 tops asit’ll be outclassed by the Deck 2 like 2 years later
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>>725989126
If its 800 or even upwards 1000 dollars, it would still be cheaper than building a pc
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A PS5 Digital is £430.
The Machine can play more games than the PS5, and I already own plenty of them. But it's also slower than a 5-year-old console and has a smaller SSD.
At £500 (~US$650, tax included) including a controller, I'll grit my teeth at the price but might buy it.
Anything higher and I can wait. Based on the vague comments made at the event I think they were hoping to price it higher, but I also think they'll reconsider after everyone's reactions.

There are a few things they urgently need to rethink.
First, almost nobody is going to buy this as a PC to use at their desk. For that use case, its advantages will mostly evaporate and its weak hardware will become obvious. They need to stop spending ad time on that scenario and can't use it to justify a higher price.
Second, they do have one key selling point over any other PC which is the lack of shader compilation stutter. They need to boast about that. Have frametime graphs:
>steam machine: (smooth 16ms frames)
>other pc: (100ms shader stutter spikes)
Third, it needs to come with a controller as standard. Advertising a base price exclusive of a controller will look absurd. Forcing the controller has other advantages too: Discourages purchases for non-gaming use (which they don't get further profit from), ensures devs will cater to it since everyone will have one.
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1 dolar
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>we don't know
>here's an article
Fuck journalists and fuck you for posting that shit
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If the price was attractive they would have announced it with the reveal. Meaning its not
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>>725992057
I don't think they've decided yet. They're feeling out the market.
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I know it's impossible but I'd only spend $200 on this thing, I just have no use for it
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>>725992057
this kind of thinking is the only reason i'm even entertaining the possibility of a new Half-Life game.
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>>725993929
what if the gabecube comes with half life 3 too
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Are they ever going to make kernel anti-cheat Fortnite type games playable on Linux? It can't take off otherwise
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>>725994405
You should not use kernel anti-cheat software at all.
It literally downgrade your os security to MS-DOS levels.
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I'm currently more interested in a Steam Deck 2 so that I can finally do PS3/360 emulation on the go. SOME games work, but I want to just play LittleBigPlanet in a car damnit.
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>>725989041
>How much would you spend for the Steam Cube
Would I actually own the steam cube or would I just be buying a license for it like with the games?
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Probably not going to buy it because my 1060 plays all the games I actually want to play already. If anyone in my family wants to get into PC gaming, I would recommend it though.
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>>725989041
500 would be an easy buy, 800 would be 50/50. anything more is decently low odds id do it unless they included something with it.
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>>725989041
I don't see a world where they make it a loss leader.
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>>725989232
You wouldn't. It's not designed/marketed towards people who already have above average PCs, like you.
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>>725989041
maximum 600 dollars, anything more than that and I just cant do it
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>>725996887
I don't care about my OS security. I have faith the Lord will protect my computer. I just want to play Fortnite
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>>725989041
it needs to be like $450 for the 512gb model with no steam controller, and $650 for the 2tb as well.
if they do bundles with a steam controller, i expect it to be just $50 more. no more or its going to be pretty useless for the normies
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>>725990912
>If its upwards 1000 dollars, it would still be cheaper than building a pc
It's not. Picrel.
You can make compromises here and there to save a few bucks.
Go for a slightly worse Ryzen CPU, a different GPU or whatever.
But still, they'll have to sell at a loss and they'll have to be enticing if they want anyone to consider buying these.
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>>725990912
youre totally wrong on that btw, you can build an equivalent steam machine spec pc for ~$600
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>>725999879
not even a good example, that motherboard, psu and case can be much cheaper and you can get it to around 600 or 700 depending if you can get the GPU used
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>>726000016
>You can make compromises here and there to save a few bucks.
You can do whatever you want.
The example is good (enough) because it proves that the statement being quoted is incorrect.
If you want to put a build together yourself though, by all means.
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>>725999898
>you can build an equivalent steam machine spec pc for ~$600
This is about right, the question is will it be sold as a premium product where people value the form factor or will it be sold closer to cost.

I think valve is mostly looking for increased adoption of steamos so presuming it costs about as much to make this thing as a a budget pre built or budget gaming laptop id guess it's going to cost around 550-650
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>>725999879
>7600
>$299
Awful comparison. You can get a 9060 XT for that amount of money.
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>>726000327
they said they want to keep entry level priced, it sounds like its totally meant to be sold at $600 of the raw cost of it, they will want to make the money back through steam sales, but my guessing is they wont sell it cheaper because then the AI or crypto faggots will just buy it and not run SteamOS on it
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>>726000016

here is a cheaper build i made when they announced it, using neweggs price for the cpu which more closely matches what the steam machine will ship with. the gpu is also closer to what the steammachine will have, same gen and CUs.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4mjYMC
its $844.89
a worse machine for slightly less
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>>726000595
>Awful comparison.
Not in the slightest.
I used a GPU that comes close in terms of specs.
The Gabecube will have something close to a 7600M, so I picked the desktop version.
It's not a "cheapest mini ITX build", it's a "closes Gabecube equivalent build".
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>>726000654
they will want to make the money back from R&D and devlopment time through steam sales****** however
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>>725989041
>How much would you spend for the Steam Cube
$0. I just want the controller.
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Someone told me that they'd pay up to $899, but they don't use their PC for anything besides games and have a rig that's worse than the Machine. This will do waves in the gaming prebuilt market assuming they can be competitive in the frames/dollar charts.
Outside of gaming, the average company ordering computers for office work won't buy a bunch of gaming computers and Windows keys(they will instead spend $1.2k for a worse Dell) and any professional that needs real computing power will take one look at the numbers and immediately turn up their nose at the price and physical space it takes up.
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Is anyone going to use it as a console AND a pc? like shuttling it back and forth from the tv to their desk? I just don't see it
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>>726000697
7600M is still not a 7600, and even then, you're comparing a deprecated product that wouldn't make sense to buy at full price when the exact same amount of money would give you so much more if you were actually considering building a PC.
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>>726001056
might be good for a college student
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>>726000654
with only 8gb VRAM it will not be attractive to LLM users at all unless changing out the parts is easy
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>>726001056
people do that with gaming laptops, but you need a USB hub if you want to save time plugging shit back and forth all the time, so yeah probably. i would do it if i didnt have a PC
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>>726001205
or someone who travels a lot, this is perfect for fitting in suitcase or carryon as a mobile home office/entertainment hub.
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>>726001219
the GDDR6 is soldered so thats good in that context, but they would probably still try crypto right?
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>>725989041
I have a PC and the only way I would consider getting one for my main room is if it were $450 or less. I assume it’s probably going to be somewhere between 900 and1200.
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>>726001056
I feel like that’s2 different groups of people. The 20% docked Deckers will keep it on TV, I’m sure there’s some tinkerers that will dabble in games and the other functions but they will probably have a desk and monitor for it to stay at pretty fixed.
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>>726001354
seems like it's way more cost effective to just rig a bunch of GPUs to really cheap components instead of buying a shitload of prebuilts like this but i'm not a cryptofag so idk
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>>726001056
why would you even go back and forth with it? put it on your main big screen in your living room and set aside your kb/m when you're not using them.
>but i have a couch
so do i, that's what slide under tables are for.
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>>726001056
When i used to play on a console I had the console at my desk with my computer. I'd switch inputs on the monitor.
That console is now connected to a tv somewhere else with another computer also connected to the same tv with a long HDMI cable. the console is on one tv input and the pc is on the other. Both systems use the same wireless xbox controller. the pc has two monitors, and mirrors one of them onto the tv.
wireless keyboard, wireless mouse, wireless controller connected to a pc in another room 20 feet away.
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>>725999389
Get a console.
No cheaters, no anti-cheat.
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as a backup machine, id spend around 500 dollarydoos on it
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>>726001447
if you wanted to sit at a desk and do some work with it
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>>726001585
ok so you don't need a steam machine then
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>>725989041
This shit better be like $200 under its specs bare minimum just to account for the fact it doesn't run windows, that makes it useless as a general purpose PC
>But just boot it yourself
It has a custom chip so dual booting wont work anyway because no drivers

The steam deck is good because its doing something other PCs cant do, this is competing with literally every other general purpose PC in existence so its gotta blow it out of the water price wise or its dead on arrival.
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>>725989203
>it's probably tied to a video game streaming service
Nope, it's just a PC running a customized Arch Linux. You can install all sorts of programs via Pacman and Flathub.
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>>726001729
i didnt say i needed a steammachine.

>shuttling it back and forth from the tv to their desk?
>I just don't see it

since you "dont see it" i explained my past and present situation with consoles and pcs and how in one instance All devices used the same monitors at my desk. And another instance where the computer has its own desk with a long HDMI cable so i could play it in another room on a TV while sitting on a couch. And the console is there too.

im not sure what you arent seeing after this.
But with a device that small it wouldnt be hard to move around.
I also have HDMI dongles plugged into my tv providing easy access to the ports from the front so i dont hav to reach behind to connect devices.
a 5 dollar cable would make shuttling it around super easy if your screens have a few of those.
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>>725989041
enough to make Snoy freak out
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>>726001934
retard, they said they will provide the option to install other OSs, meaning Windows, they will do the same route for Steam deck, wait a couple months to iron out bugs and develop the drivers for Windows. considering how similar it is to a PC other than the custom antennae for the Steam controller, it will probably come out within a month
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>>726002491
the difference is your stuff is already set up as opposed to playing steam box on the couch, unplugging everything and setting it up as a pc, that's what I think is unlikely
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>>726000327
Loooool it’s gonna be $2000 + shipping and handling. Watch.
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>>725989041
$400-$500
If it's going to be like a console, it should have a console like price.
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>>726002583
shouldnt be to bad.
the steam machine only needs power and a display cable.

If you intend to move the steammachine around between Tvs and monitors, it would help to have a few extenders that remain plugged into your screens to save them the wear and tear, and provide easier access to hard to reach ports.
Similar with power strips, they should be placed in a location that is easy to access.

the steammachine is small enough that it wouldnt be hard to transport. And if your outlets and ports are easy to access, the 15 seconds it takes to setup isnt a huge hurtle.
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Watch it come in hot around $850
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>>725990912
Mobile parts with those specs lol no
You could make a PC better than it for less than 600
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Are the people ITT saying they'd buy it for $800 Valve cultists or just completely clueless? A PS5 Pro costs less than that and has about TWICE the graphics performance of this shitbox.
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$200 WITH the controller, make it happen gabe
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>>726005492
Don't upset the gabetroons anon
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Nothing, i"ll buy a PS6 tho.
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A digital PS5 MSRPs for $499.99 and Valve expects me to spend hundreds more on a weaker platform?
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>>726006184
Their audience is people who never gave a fuck about consoles and are clueless about them so they can't compare the pricing, and who think any gaming PC under $1k is a great deal no matter how shitty.
TL;DR it's yet another gabe scam
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I'm buying nothing from the fat scammer that destroyed the physical market games for PC.
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>>726005691
can i mod cyberpunk on playstation?
you can on a steamdeck
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>>726008393
>muh goon mods
kys
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>>726009870
what goon mods?
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>>726010065
The goon mods you goon to in cybergoon 207goon
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>>726010158
can you install goon mods in your toystation5?
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>>725989041
If the 2TB one goes above $800 I'm out.
I don't really want the hassle of picking parts again if I can avoid it, but I can probably assemble something that will fit my needs just fine under that.
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It will be 599-650 or so realistically, maybe 699 at best and that would be an okay-ish price for what you're getting, provided you intend to use it for its actual purpose, a consolized PC experience.
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>>726006413
Games for Windows live destroyed the physical market for PC dipshit
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>>726010202
Mods are gay.
Modders are gay.
Mods users are massive faggots.
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>>726012480
Kys gabetr00n
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>>726006413
did you really expect the physical market to work on PC when there was no standard DRM that consoles had? you fucking stupid nigger
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>>726001962
StreamOS is pretty locked down, you've gotta mess around if you want to use pacman.
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used for $100 and installing windows on it immediately
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>>725997028
Do you have people driving you around or what?
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>>725989041
I would pay700
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>>726001596
>Console
>No cheaters
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>>725989041
>weaker than a base ps5 with a shittier interface and no exclusives
I wouldn’t buy one for any amount of money. Doubt I’d even bother keeping it plugged in if I was given one for free.
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>>725989041
Not more than the price of a cheapest Steam Deck.
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>>726020556
How is Steam OS's UI/UX worse than PS5's?
>no exclusives
But it has all of the PS5's exclusives... lol
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i wouldn't as my standards are at 1440p 250hz with bfi
but i wish it success, it's basically an entry point to pc gaming from consolecuckery, something that's never been seen before and its success will mean advancement of proton and linux which in turn means better performance and reducing the amount of incompatible software
really the only windows exclusives at this point is pro software and anticheat games
the former is nowhere near the gargantuan achievement that getting something as latency sensitive as gaming to work was and the latter is a matter of spyware makers applying some vaseline to their arseholes
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>>725989041
i don't know why they keep trying to push this shit, console fags won't abandon their familiar environments and pc fags will rather spend these money to upgrade their pc. There is no market for something like this.
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>>725989041
About 3.50$
Nothing cuz I am not interested, got a PS4 for Dark Souls 3, Dragon Quest XI and Elden Ring and MAY get a PS5 if DQ12 looks interesting but otherwise I am cool when it comes to new vidya.
Thinking of getting myself a PC for emulating PS2 as my slim model has been showing problems when reading games lately.
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>>726000654
>raw cost
buying in bulk is cheaper
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>>726022037
What's the point of getting 3 computers to do three different things when you could get one that does all three?
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>>725989126
I'd say 300-400 and honestly this is the only price range where it would actually be remotely competitive. Anything more makes it a niche product. They put themselves in a bad spot by inviting disfavourable comparisons to consoles

I suspect the real price will be 600 min, probably closer to 800. It'll be dead in the water.
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>>725989041
not more than $600

it has laptop cpu and gpu, so I expect to pay laptop prices for it
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>>725989041
On one hand I don't buy cobsoles without disc drives. On the other the opportunity to spite M$, Snoy, and Nintendo next gen might be too tempting to ignore.
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>>726022637
no
being a custom build lowers the costs drastically
you save a lot of money on dropping all the modularity and tolerances of typical pc parts
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>>725989041
$500 confirmed
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>>726022757
>being a custom build lowers the costs drastically
That is literally the opposite of reality. A modular PC is the default, it costs literally $0 in R&D to just grab a bunch of off the shelf parts and put them together. The more you stray from the default modular form factor the more money it costs to make.
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>>726023012
He didn't articulate it well but he' right in the sense that predetermined components allow for economies of scale across the entire bill of material and lower costs (assuming you sell enough.) It allows you to negotiate bulk pricing on ALL components and usually secure that pricing with the suppliers in Asia across multiple years.

t. Work in procurement for a multinational electronics company (not Valve)
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>>725989041
450 max. I don't even need one, I just hate moving my PC from one living place to another.
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>>725989126
this p much
and the docking station being 75 is a rip too
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Its more powerful than a Series S but less powerful than a Series X, so between 400 and 550
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>>725989041
i will consider using steam if they give me one for free
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>destroys consoles in terms of performance and cheaper if for the same performance
>option to pirate
>can choose from multiple storefronts
>can get games for 1/5th the price on sales
>uncomparably larger library of games
>can choose between KB/M and mouse
>can host custom servers
>moddable(crucial when game demands mods that fix bugs and performance)
>allows for emulation
>easy to replair
>upgradeable
>don't have to pay for online play or other dumb shit
>supports variety of 3rd party hardware to choose from
>system not in the mercy of a single corporation
>can be used for other uses than gaming, video editing, photoshop etc.
>console exclusives don't exist these days anyways
why are we supposed to hate PC gaming again?
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>>726025079
>why are we supposed to hate PC gaming again?
We don't. God help us if Gabe dies though. The vultures that will be circling are all nightmare fuel.
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>>725989041
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE VR GOGGLES? Are they gonna be as good as the quest 3? What's the pricing?
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>>725990912
you can build this for 450 you retard
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even if I were in the market for a low end PC, I wouldn't spend more than $500 for it because self-building is not a problem and I'd rather spend an extra $150-200 getting about the same machine with all proper desktop parts. It's gonna be $800 or more so anyone that can self build would obviously never bother.
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>>725989041
If it's 500, I'll buy it. If 600, I'll have to think about it. Anything above that and it's a skip.
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>>725989041
If wouldn't take it if it was free. I got a PC for piracy so never spent much on Steam either. Valve is evil, this shit is just ancient mobile tech too, people have to be as retarded as the steam deck owners to buy this shit



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