I CAN'T SNEED
>8gb vram
>>726021015why is no fee listed as a positive? i don't want to play with the browns
>>726021015>upsides always lists muh emulationwhen will pc vegans just admit they are jealous that our stakes are just that much better?
>>726021015>40k likespeople really don't fact check shit huh. half the shit he's saying isn't even truecan't wait for literally none of the people who liked that post to buy one themselves once they realise it'll cost $1000
>>726021015>cheaphow much is it?
>>7260210155 true claims, 2 arguably true claims depending on how you interpret them, 2 claims that can't be verified yet, and 1 claim where I don't even know what the fuck he's trying to say.
>>726021113What's wrong with 8 GB VRAM?
>>726021210$800-$1000, Valve already said it's not gonna be console priced but PC priced.
its been a minute since the steam fedora bros had a scrap given to them. enjoy your steam(ed) hams gentlemen
>>726021210No one knows yet, it's all speculation.
>>726021113more than enough
>>726021251
>>726021210$500it's right there on the Steam page
>>726021354This is ddr6 vram THOUGH
>Steam has 15,360 FREE gamesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>>726021350Next gen Playstation is speculated to have at least 24 gb.
can't wait to play GTA VI on November 19th 2026 on this bad boy!
>>726021489kek no. nobody will buy a $1500 console
>>726021251Developers who can't optimize means anything less than 10GB in 2025 is not enough even for 1080p
>>726021150Do I have some unfortunate news for you about Playstation's audience.
>>726021489So? You still don't need more than 8GB
>>726021150>american cattle is so domesticated they WANT to pay for online + tipincredible
>>726021251Nothing. Especially since most AAA games are slop anyway, and if you really want to play one you sincerely don't need to play it at 4k.1080p is fine too. Though more people seem to disagree with this these days.
>>726021618how do you know how much I need?
>>726021210It should be around Steam Deck price
>>726021802why is that?
Why would anyone buy this over building a pc?No repairability, can't swap parts, cant upgrade, underwhelming specs
>>726021113good boy, buy the latest rtx 5090 to emulate nintendo games
>>726021951It's old 2020 hardware that's been souped up by 2025 optimisations.
>no online fee**also no online for most popular games
>>726021015>Näytä enemmänHaha benis :-------D
>valve wants to make steam machine 2.0>asks the hardware providers what they can do>AMD looks around in the spare parts bin>finds a bunch of shit tier APUs they can't shift>"say gabe, have I got a deal for you..." lisa whispers>BEHOLD, THE STEAM CUBETo be fair that is how the switch 1 came into existence.
>>726021113works on my machine
>>726021015These are the people you're siding with
>>726021994With how fucking expensive parts are now, there's a breaking point where it's a good enough budget option.
>>726021354heh
>>726022118Doesn't it use a 5600x/4060 equivalent parts? Those are cheap now
>>726021691Gabecube is a video games console. Arkham Knight simulated real life graphics and it didn't need 8GB VRAM.
>>726022094Expect the same for deck 2... Just like the deck 1
>>726021565>Devs who can't optimizeMajority of those games are probably not worth playing then if thats the case
>>726021647It's just the millennials aka non-humans
>>726022154>4060That's still 450 bucks
>>726022071Such as? You do know it's a PC, not a Steam only machine, you can download your LOL and Fortnite on this.
>>7260211138 vram is enough for like 98% of games out there in 1080p retardo-kunThe ONLY games that gave me a hard time with the 8gb of Vram were RE8 and especially RE4 Remake with higher enough textures at 1080p.Everything else? Just.Werks.
>>726021113that's MORE than enough, you want more? buy a PC for 2-3 times the price
>>726021251As more and more devs move from ps4 to current gen, 8gb of vram has become pretty much the minimum (if even) to run the games with any decent visuals, as the ps5, the standard, uses around 10gb.In less than 2 years the ps6 will come out and the ps5 will start moving towards the low-medium preset at 30fps, making 8gb more than obsolete. In fact, if next gen rumors are true, anything below 24gb cards will start shitting themselves quite quickly. The difference just hasn't been this bad this time around because it was just 8gb vs ~10gb, but next gen we could be talking about 16gb/18gb vs ~24gb, so any card below 24gb will start suffering sooner or later.
>>726021015>better performance than current genLiterally a lie
>>726022156arhkam knight was a static scene with one weather, that's a really bad example
>>726021015>- $800>Wait, where are you going?
>>726021113AMD and Nvidia took so much flak (righfully so) for their new 8GB VRAM cards.But steammies will defend this one!>but muh 1080pthe machine is sold as a 4k60 gaming piece, retards
>>726021015>näytä enemmänBALM SPEADYMÄMMI SBAGHEDDI :DDDD
>>726022440At the rate RAM prices are rising that could be one hell of a deal very soon.
>>726021113Devs better optimize their games to run on GabeCube then.
>>726022209retard
>>726022721>Devs>optimizelollmao
>>726022269Crazy that 32gb of 6000mhz ddr5 ram is the same price as a 4060. The market is fucked
>>726022476>den där känslan när en finnjävel pratar kinesiska nära dig
>claims to be a 4k 60fps machine>*with FSR>*with textures still on low because 8gb vram
>>726022424It's the perfect example>static scene with one weather irrelevant
>>726021015>better performance than current gen consolesi very much doubt that, considering games get specifically optimized for console hardware whereas noone will optimise games for Steam machine unless it sells a shit ton. Even then, they'll probably just treat it like the general pc market because it is a pc at the end of the day.
>>726022865>8gb vram>textures on lowI have a 4060 and I'm still able to run most games on high just fine.
>>726022872Yeah isnt a 4060 machine somewhere between a PS4 pro and a base PS5?If PS4 pro is something like a PS 4.5 , then i guess this new Gabecube would be something like a PS 4.8 lol
>>726022974It's about ray tracing using a lot of VRAMIt affects games with a lot of ray tracing
>>726023117So in other words it doesn't matter as RT is a complete meme.
>>726022869it is very relevant for an open world video game. fox engine is much better example but you went with UE3 as an example of optimization for some weird fucking reason
>>726023235>t. poorfag
>>726023117Oh so shit no one cares about, got it.
>>726023286See >>726023281
>>726022308>1080pTVs, the system consoles are primarily played on, have been in 4k for over a decade now
>>726021015But can I play Unicorn Overlord on it?
>>726023362So what? 1080p still looks fine.>I MUST USE NEW THING ALWAYS!!! REEEEEE
>>726023460Yes, easily, just like on just about any other PC.
>>726023512It's not on steam though, how would you do it?
>>726023462If i wanted outdated tech to play on 1080p I'll stick with a ps4, not this shit
>>726023609SteamOS doesn't only play Steam games you fucking retard
>>726023609Same way people emulate on the 'eck? Or, hell, by installing whatever OS you want and going from there?
>>726023669>>726023680Emulating? But that's illegal
>>726023716Adding a non steam PC game isn't emulation, just fuck off already idiot
>>726023716Only piracy is, and only if you get caught.
>>726021015Or you can just keep pirating games on PC like a normal person.
>>726023732It's not on pc>>726023736If emulation was legal then Nintendo wouldn't have taken legal action against the people making the emulators
>i choose to play in 4k with RT on for less than half the framesIf this is you consider suicide. 8 gb vram is fine.
>>726021015op oozes with onions
>>726023961This isn't 2015
>>726023846>quoting Nintendo Mafia out of all thingstalk about the worst example you could come up with.Nintendo would skin you ALIVE if it meant getting 200 more bucks out of you and getting away with it ya moron. Keep sucking those Yakuza mini peepees
>>726023846What does Nintendo being scummy and emulator devs being retarded have to do with anything going on in this thread?
>>726024078It might as well be. Graphics have been stagnant for at least that long.
>>726024124Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they're wrong>>726024154Follow the conversation lil bro, I know AI has destroyed your ability to read but it's good practice
>>726021113Only unoptimized goyslop might have a problem with that
>>726021113congratulations,you have been brainwashed by a mix of UE5,terrible programmers who can't code for shit and of course Nvidia shills
>>726024557And don't forget W11 which can't compile shaders properly.Anon is the goodest of goys.
>>726023117>ray tracing
>>726024281Tendies are always wrong.
>>726025149TRVTHKE
>>726021015Yeah its literally just a shitty PC
>>726021113How does that corp dick taste?
>>726024281You asked if you can play Unicorn Overlord on the Steam Machine. You got the reply that yes, you can, and the methods to do so. Everything else is irrelevant drivel.
>>726022308>The ONLY games that gave me a hard time with the 8gb of Vram were RE8 and especially RE4 Remake with higher enough textures at 1080p.>Everything else? Just.Werks.So a game from 2021 will give problems to a hardware releasing in 2026, great!
>>726025764So the takeaway is capcom is retarded and should be ignored? Got it.
>>726021113you are still playing on a 1660 super
I already have a PC though
>>726025684You're irrelevant drivel
Why does the size of the library matter? If you wanted to have hundreds of games in your library, you'd already have a PC and steam accountIt's not like zoomers looking for the consolecuck experience on steam are buying Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader
>>726021171but emulation drags the console slave games back to the pc standard with moddability and optionswhy would anyone want to play the slave versions of games on slave boxes
So now that Valve has a PC, do you think they will release exclusive proton updates for SteamOS?
>>726021251How can I play my new unoptimized garbage AAA slops with only 8GB anon ?
>>726025950Zoomers don't have any money anyway. They spend it all on estrogen and corpo subscription scams. No one cares what they're looking for.
>>726025980>do you think they'll sabotage their plan to sabotage windows because... uh idk???
>>726021253Dead on arrival at that price.
>>7260212514K texture files require at least 16 GB these days and they make a bigger difference in how detailed games look than gay tracing
>>726026156>4klol, lmao even
>>726021015>didn't included nintendo librarykek every single time
>>726021015Bringing up emulation is always cringe. You're supposed to not admit to pirating games.
>Näytä enemmänvoitko vittu lopettaa näiden paskalankojen postaamisen vitun kehari?
>>726021171pcvalvejeets can't afford games, so they pirate games that struggle to run on their cheap poopee dollar pcs, and then come here to start shitty consolewars
>>726026656*ahem*BENIS
>>726026673>consoles are cheaper than PCs>PC users are too poor to afford consolesWhich one is it?
>>726026743:-DDDD
>>726026673you're brownnative console experience is inferior to emulation
>>726026285Yes. You do use high resolution texture packs and don’t rely on whatever grainy default 540x540p for texture settings, do you?
>>726026552>You're supposed to not admit to pirating games.Why not? Not only does piracy improve sales, if more people pirate then I get faster downloads. Win-win
>>726021251games these days and within the near future will need 16gb because devs are fucking retarded when it comes to optimising their games
and thisIs the valvecorp shitcube
>>726021015Didn't Valve try this a decade ago and it completely flopped? Why do you think this time will be any different?
>>726026879The more you talk about it, the more likely it is that companies like Nintendo start cracking down on it.
>>726026961Good luck cracking down in torrents retard.
>>726026938People hated the console companies substantially less 10 years ago.
>>726022017That's for rvc chat while I emulate tendie gaymes
>>726025979if shitskin pcvalvejeets care so much about the standard of gaming, why did they support the poop deck that runs games worse than consoles? the poop deck flopped btw, shitskin pcvalvejeetbetter hope the poop machine costs less than your $300 bharat dollars pc so you can afford to buy it and play games that at least match the console versions>>726026769>>726026804>SAAR WE ARR NOT BUYS GAME BECAUSE WE CAN PLAYS THEM FOR FREE SAAR!>SAAR WE ARR NOT POOR, YOU BASTARD PAKISTATION NINTENDALITS!oof, triggered the shitskin turd worlders
>>726026961They do that anyway. Nintendo is a trash company that fails to deliver a good service, so people pirate their shit
>>726021015the console warrior mindset does not accept any arguments.>>726026938proton support is actually legit now and game support improved massively since then.its also just one machine made by valve rather than numerous outsourced prebuilts which just watered it down and complicated it.the steam deck proved that linux gaming is actually a real alternative now.it wont be a "console killer" but it also wont flop. thats for sure.valves goal with this is to further undermine microsoft, rather than beating nintendo or sony.
>>726022797The only way they ever will is if they are forced to in some way.
>>726027108kek even the switch 2 sold millions more than your flop and slop poop deck, pcvalvejeet
>>726027101it will run ps4 and older games back than any console would lmaoif you care so much about the standard of gaming you would not excuse raytracing slop actively lowering development costs and shitting on performance
What about mods. Can you do modded New Vegas on a gabecube?Does it have a web browser?
>>726027108The reason they started cracking down harder on pirates and emulation, is because TotK leaked and none of you fags could keep your fucking mouth shut and decided to gloat about it on social media.Just keep it to yourselves and try not to ruin the fun for everyone else.
>>726027252it's a linux pc and by default you boot into a console looking version of steamyou click exit big picture and you're inside a regular pc enviroment
>>726027252Anon you just drag the mods into the game folder and they work
>>726022106>siding withMotherfucker it's a godamn console. What the FUCK are you talking about. Why do I need to "side with" anyone to buy it?
>>726021113if you like 16gb vram so much why don't you marry it and have it poz your boyhole. 8gb is enough for most games worth playing, the ones requiring 16gbs are mostly slop.
>>726021113>muh vramnone of this shit matters lmaothe switch/switch 2 has like a quarter the power of the steam machine and devs are still able to port every single game in existence to them
>>726027213I was talking about emulation. If Nintendo provided a good service for playing their old games then they wouldnt have to crack down on rom sites.
>>726027248i care about the standard of gaming and that's why i support playing the games they were meant to be played instead of pirating like a poorfag shitskin turd worlder poopjeet like you
>>726026868The textures that fit within an 8gb budget are plenty clear. Just because you are a consoomer who NEEDS to see every individually modelled nail on a plank of wood doesn't mean the real world operates like that. Nobody, but NOBODY needs actual 4k res textures (no game ships with any anyway) and 4k itself is a cinema standard and completely pointless for gaming. Nobody uses a screen big enough and just casually having 8 million pixels being rendered is a pointless performance killer as well.
>>726027356He wants to use it for embarrassing AI shit
>>726021015can emulate the switch?
>>726027315>The reason they started cracking down harder on pirates and emulation, is becauseIs because they're a bunch of greedy fags who want to resell you the same game that they ripped from the internet anyway. No other reason.
>>726027443My PC has worse specs and it can run Tears of the Kingdom at 1080p 60 FPS, so it should.
>>726027390if they were meant to be played on a slave box that doesn't let you actually do what you want with them then they don't deserve to be paid for
>>726027443You missed a prime thread yesterday you hack
>>726027318>a regular pc environment So it's a linux version where you can just open a pre-installed web browser, go grab an installer for your browser of choice, and have at it like a fresh windows install?
>>726027351Lmao you wish modding on Linux was that easy.
>>726027609I'm pretty sure MO2 works for Linux, so isn't it?
>>726027609>so stupid he can't figure out how to mod a game on Linuxngmi
>>726027593You can (shouldn't) even install windows and set Steam as a startup app that starts in big picture mode and have it running Windows in the background if you wanted.>Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?
>>726026961Of all the shit I've torrented over the years, the only thing that got my ISP to nag at me was downloading a fucking Pokemon Platinum ROM 17 years after the game was released. Nintendo are psychotic freaks and will go to any measure to stop piracy.
>>726027593it's basically a default arch linux install but steamos has built in retard protection that doesn't let you update and modify core system shit until valve thinks it's okayit ships with KDE which is the closest you can get to windows guiif you want to know what it'd feel like to use a gabecube enter the big picture mode on steam and that's what it'd default to until you exit it
>>726027609It is, most of the time. Sometimes you have to navigate into the wine prefix directory instead of the installed game directory, but that's about it.
At first i was excited when i saw the announcement. Then i realized i already have a pc with an i9 14900k cpu, 7900 xt gpu, and 32 gb ram. What the hell do I need a steam box for? Get a large quality hdmi cable and you can play anywhere in your house. Steam is releasing a PC/Console hybrid 6 years after PS5 and Xbox Series and it's not even stronger than those. Steam Machine will be struggling to play top AAA games out of the box without downgrading graphic settings. At least steamdeck had the handheld excuse for weak hardware. Steam Machine has no excuses. Its weak cheap hardware so Valve can make a profit from their hardcore niche audience. Console players will stick to their consoles. They are not pay 600+ for something weaker than their PS5. Real PC gamers will stick to their PCs that play top games. I wanted to be excited about this but came back to reality.
Why are nintendo fans so shook over a fucking prebuilt pc?
>>726027960It's a tendie board that shits it's diaper over any competition with their god
>>726021113Watch half life 3 look much better than ue5 trash and run perfectly without upscaling on that
>>726021015>...current gen consoles...> 8gb rx7400Yeah buddy, it definitely is more powerful than a ps5 pro.
>>726027952>i realized i already have a pcThis is for people entering the hobby or upgrading from a 10 year old laptop or shitbox, not for autists that assemble their own decent computers every 5 or so years.According to the hardware survey, GabeNCube is more powerful than what 70% of users are running. However, this is probably skewed by all the jeets and chinks.
8gb of vram thing is a memeI just played BL4 with a 2060 super and got over 60 fps on 1440p.
>>726027407>Nobody uses a screen big enoughSpeak for yourself.
>>726028023Tendies are a minority here, thoughThe fact that they're incredibly annoying faggots doen't make the board theirs
>>726027952I lost my desktop PC in an accident and I'm not in a position to build a new one anytime soon with dozens of games in my Steam library that the laptop I'm currently making do with can't handle, this is going to be perfect for me if the price is reasonable.
>>726028235Would've been based if there wasn't a PlayStation there
>>726021354was gonna post this, thank you.
>>726028235>no numpad LMAO
>>726023362lol do you actually believe that the current shitboxes that are sold for 4k tvs actually render 4k?
>>726027443>can emulate the switch?easily.
>>726028235Do millennial stepdads really?
>>726028401nevermind I'm retarded
>>726028409Remember how the ps5 had "8k" printed on the box for years? Funny shit.
>>726021113You really got the steam shills riled up with this one
>>726021113
>>726028491>muhleeenialzAre broccoliheads ok?
>>726028608Looks like I struck a nerve.
>>726021015>>726022106>These are the people you're siding withinb4 new soijak
>>726027593Basically yes.
>>726027443Yes. I play the switch version of Crash Team Racing on my Deck
>>726021113It's kinda ironic that you posted Hasan's uncle along with this ragebait.
>>726028235That size screen is fine for 1080p. It would have to be 4-5x the size for 4k to be worth it.
>>726021251You won't be able to play the latest FoTM trash AAA poorly optimized games. Why should you care if you have good taste? I don't know.
>>726021015>emulates xbox gamesI don‘t think so bro
>>726021113I bet you can't even articulate what vram is or what games use it for
>>726028935>ApexHow do you even manage that? What, do you play at 45 fps on the lowest settings?
>>726029247I can't test that any more since they blocked linux with anticheat.
>>726021489You don't even know how console ram works.
Honestly, what's the point in me getting this if I already have a Lenovo Legion that plays all of my steam games just fine? What's the big difference that should make me buy one?> plays PS5 and Series X gamesThat COULD be a selling point if it's not some trick to say "oh yeah um just use Xenia like you would on PC", I need a little bit more convincing than that.
>>726021171>emualtion is bad, you are just jealousAdults dont think like this. Your entire life is a console war and it shows
>>726029204
>the tale of how /v/ was scammed into buying a prebuilt PC
>>726021015>Better performance than the current-gen consoles>CheapThe success of this thing depends on these two points only and one of them was already proven false.
>>726028235are you blind or something?
>>726028313I thought about moving shit around to really bait some people because offscreen is a PS5 pro, switch, switch 2, psvr 2, and another TV but I already had to black out so much because I don’t want you people seeing pictures of my wife and kids, and nobody should care anyway. What matters is not everyone is playing on a 1060 in a shoebox like that retard thinks, and there is at least one person on this board who actually does have a 5090.
>>726029647i know that it's just a normal prebuilt but i going to buy it to support linux and steam OS
>>726021015>>726021015>biggest libraryA lot of pc ports are digital only and or outright inferior to the console versions and this is true across every generation. So biggest library comes with a very big a asterisk. >emulates ps and xboxA potato can emulate ps1, ps3 has come a long way, ps2 is like 50 percent of what youd want to emulate and youd have to put up with configuring that shit for every game because it sucks. Pcsx2 is infamous for sucking shit. And xbox emulation also sucks and who gives a fuck about emulating xbox anyway buy a 360 for 50 bucks the games are like 10 bucks a pop and you can play og xbox on it.>for that matter ps3 isnt that expensive you can pick one up for a hundred ish install cfw bam free games and youre not emulating. Ps2 is like 80 bucks and you can just buy a fmcb for 10 bucks and run games off usb or whatever and the games are often dirt cheap anyway.If youre buying a pc, go ahead. Just dont go in with the delusion that you GET TO PLAY EVERYTHING, AND BETTER SOMEHOW. You dont, the multiplats vary a lot in quality some are quite awful, and emulation will never be the same as running original hardware. But if you want to play some current gen games, need a computer anyway, yeah get some kind of gaming pc, maybe even the steam machine.
>>726022274What's going on in that video?
>>726029128Retina distance for a 50” 4k screen is only 1.5m.
>>726029864Accidentally green texted a paragraph oops
>>726023716haha, nintengoys are hilarious as always
>>726029445then don't buy it?
>>726028235Based:>Steam Deck>BraveCringe:>Mousepad>Nordvpn>Win11
>>726029939>retinaBullshit made up by apple because they couldn't into a proper cleartype font.
>>726021113>all of these poorfag 1080p slurpers getting mad at this
>>726021015>better performance than current gen consoles>8gb VRAMHighly doubtful
>>726029864lol
>>726028235>anti tip metalOH NO AMERICANS DON'T LOOK
>>726029864>digital onlyBased, get it DRM free and have it forever in your cloud/nas/stick.>Fuck your steam machine, I can buy 5 extra devices, okay???Lol, okay... consoom more.>Pcsx2 is infamous for sucking shit.lmfao "Playable 98,36%">If youre buying a pc, go ahead.Okay :)
>>726028235that is a fucking rancid mousepadget a glass one, you can clean it in 10 seconds
>>726021015>better perfomance than current-gen consolesfalse>everything elsemy windows pc does that
>>726028534>We believe recommended specs now>We believe recommended specs for Arkham Knight of all gameshuh?
>>726024207The fact that games don't look any better doesn't mean games don't need 16 times the amount of VRAM.
if you cared ahout steam library you already have a PC and all those thousands of games you are so proud to have listed there.
>>726021113Kek this
>>726021251that's half of PS5's. PS3 had half the vram of 360 and struggled despite having a more powerful cpu
>>726023846>If emulation was legalEmulation is legal, you fucking faggot. Nintendo goes after those sites because it is possible to pirate software through emulation.
>>726029928All of his friends slipped comedically while trying to ding-dong ditch a member of their neighborhood.
>>726033617I think you're just making up excuses now buddyHow does it feel to be a criminal like those swarthy men you like to criticize?
>>726028935better than the switch
>>726021489Is this the new bit war? Console manufacturers racing for bigger numbers to market to children who have no idea what they even mean?
>>726021951Because I said so.
>>726028534Does Arkham Knight actually work these days?
>>726021015>cheap näytä enammänFghtan Ctulhu
>>726033926I don't give a fuck about legality--most laws are written up by bureaucrats and special interest groups. I was just shitting on anon for saying something retarded.
>--oh it's an AI bot, neat
>>726027358Switch 1 got ports of last gen games like witcher 3 years after it's release. the last current gen port switch 1 got was hogwarts legacy and it was a loading zone nightmare. The only reason switch 2 is getting games like RE 9 is it isn't pushing the performance any more than 7 or 8. 3 year into the next gen sony/xbox consoles nintendo isn't gonna be getting many if any ports. Whether you like it or not consoles set the benchmark for acceptable hardware for the next 8 years. Releasing an underpower gaming box 1 year before a jump in console performance is short sighted. Am not even talking about the vram, just in general.>the switch/switch 2 has like a quarter the power of the steam machine and devs are still able to port every single game in existence to them switch 1 is a handheld that will get over 150 million in it's install base by the end of it's life cycle. Devs will find a way to access that large of an install base because they know they will make money. Steamdeck has 4 million, gabecube will be lucky to sell 10 million before next gen launches. That a drop in the bucket to try and optimize for.
>>726038068It's been fixed for years Anon, the only people that hate it are the perpetual toaster havers
>>726029928Neighbor was tired of those joggers' shit and fed them all lead.
>>726033476Not exactly a fair comparison, PS5 has 16 gigs of shared ram while the steam machine has 16 gigs of system ram and 8 gigs of vram.In reality it probably ends up being like an 8 vs 10 gigs of usable Vram.
>>726021015It's going to be like Steam Deck, which will urge a ton of third parties to create devices of their own that absolutely BTFO the Valve equivalent.
>>726021150And i don't want to post with NPCs and bots but here we are
>>726026769saaar you need to understand high end pc is cheaper than console and both are too expensive for you and your cousin rajeeshthat is why you shitpost from your phone
>>726040128Ok good to know. Skipped the PC version but I did play it through on PS4. If I ever want to replay it I'll do it on PC.
>>726041692Don't' forget the modshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtozfTbuxOc&t=29s
as expensive as a PC but you can't upgrade it. That's the biggest benefit of a PC and its only storage and ram you can upgrade. It really is a console.
>>726021113My 3060Ti is like 6GB VRAM or something and VRAM has never been an issue at 1440p. It's the smallest bottleneck the 28CU the Steam Machine GPU has. Only idiots make a fuss about VRAM when far greater bottlenecks exist.
>>726021015All the positives have nothing to this particular box. PCs have this innately.
>>726042268It's a PC. And it's aimed to people who want a gaming device first and a decently meh PC second so this is what they care about.
tendie meltdown itt
>>726042387I first steam machine was aimed as a tv console/streaming box. I get that some people might buy one as a pc but I don't think it's being sold as anything other than a TV console.
>>726021015(ﺧ益ﺨ)
>rdna 3>8 gb vram>everything on linux is half broken and you have to tinker tranny to fix it
>>726021435Its a PC, so it has every game for free
>>726040779you mean a prebuilt PC.which already exist.fucking retard.
>>726023846Emulation is legal, as decided by Sony v Bleem. Nintendo would lose those cases if they went to court. The problem is that emulator devs don't have the money to go to court, so they just cease development.
>>726046231In civilized countries lawyers are free if you can't afford one, but they know it's not worth fighting the case because they'll lose so they run and hide instead
>>726026938The Steam Machine had no games ten years ago and Steam had no in built controller API. Now controller gaming on PC is great due to Steam Input and Proton makes its so 90% of all Steam games work on Linux.
>>726046650Lawyers are only free for criminal cases. In civil court (where intellectual property violations are tried) you have to pay your own legal fees.
>>726040779Sounds good to me. More options for me to play on.
>>726047280So as I was saying, in civilized countries...
>>726021015>you're still paying for your internet>most people only play 3/4 games all year>Better performance
>>726021015>cheapDo we have the price now?
>>726021528Las GTA i finished was 4.
I have no need for this because I dont want to buy into valves ecosystem. Why should I when you don't own the games, they are just licenses. I only buy steam games if I have to.I only have 13 games on my steam account mostly f2p or multiplayer. I only play foxhole and some others that's it.
>>726022405True. This gen don't have games to perform with.
>>726022337the ps5 has 16gb shared ram anonthe ps6 isn't going to have 16gb of dedicated vram.I don't think you understand the difference between vram, ram, and what shared ram is.
When I was building my PC three years ago, I was in multiple threads asking for advice and opinions for a few weeks before I bought a graphics card. I have a 4060ti 16gb version because you guys kept saying anything less than that is actual dogshit mid level shit, and that was a few years ago. People now will still scoff at my card and call it shit tier, even with the 16gb. I'm not mad about this, I'm happy with my card. I'm just pointing out that I remember several years back in the past you guys were telling me outright to not even bother with a 4060 because it's shit and the only thing that makes it usable as a saving grace is the 16gb vram. Now, in the FUTURE, 8 is enough? Wtf
>>726048373>Now, in the FUTURE, 8 is enough?It's not enough, it's literal steamie shills trying to defend it
>>726021015I already have a PC, so does everyone else who uses steam.
>>726021489This already has 24GB of RAM
>>726021489Yeah but no games so it's worthless.
>>726021113nuked the entire thread in 1 post. Impressive anon
>>726048285Why wouldn't the ps6 have more ram/vram
>>7260483738 is not enough for modern games that are poorly optimized. The people who pretend it's enough probably only intend to play old games, but that's not where you'll get most sales, most people want NEW games.I feel like it's going to be the same as the previous steam machine that barely sold half a million.
>>726044510>>726021435[Denuvo blocks your path]
>>726021654The overwhelming majority on Steam plays at 1080p, the numbers are literally there.4chan faggots are just a very loud minority.
>>726042214What games do you play
>>726048998Will make it too expensive and I won't need it anyways because it'll rely on all the new AI crutches that it'll have.
>>726021113All these seething poorfaggot replies kek>>726022308>>726024557>>726027356>>726025558Kek literally the same talking points Nvidia and Amd used to justify cucking consumers with 8gb vram cards.I bet you fuckers also fell for the "you don't need more than 4 cores" lie back in the day
>>726049027This basically kills any hopes for a Steam deck 2 because that system is good enough for semi older games and emulation.Not sure why they thought that putting an 8GB VRAM AMD GPU would work for newer stuff. Games are not optimized in 2025 and the ones that are optimized, are indie games that don't need the 8GB VRAM
>>726048837Shared ram so the devs can choose how much goes to the cpu vs gpu. Most games don't need a full 16 on the cpu. It's also most likely built into the cpu/gpu so it has insanely low latency compared to traditional ram.
>>726027353Consolefags can only operate on parasociality. It's what moves them to do what they don't like (play games, pay fees to interact with browns), to engage with media they don't like (first parties, AAA) and then promptly flip it like it was nothing and move on to the next "event" (a marketing campaign).>>726048373First of all, you're a moron for buying Nvidia. Second, you're a moron for buying budget Nvidia. Third, this is a prebuilt, it isn't for you. Fourth, your decrepit 30 year old boomer perception doesn't correspond to reality, clinging to an increasingly irrelevant, dying relic of a market where everything either violently flops or has zero staying power past viral marketing launch window, as behemoths get casually sold off every other month and household names continue to devaluate, while everyone out there playing zany low to mid end games.
>>726021113More than 70% of Steam users will be fine with that.
>>7260224641080p with upscaling (hopefully hacked-in FSR4 from the leak because Valve is cool like that)
>>726042214This is 3.5GBgate all over again.>"In one specific scenario, after editing an INI file, and playing the game at settings that drop performance to 10 FPS, if you ALSO use ultra quality textures, it drops to 5 FPS. UNPLAYABLE! JUST LIKE ARTIFACT AFTER VALVE RIPPED OFF THEIR COMMUNITY!
>>726049531Another thing I don't understand. How do you intend to sale games if half the playerbase are using Steam to only play F2P games?Frankly, probably what is killing Microsoft and Sony, too. Sure, they are selling consoles, but the folks there mainly play third-party or F2P garbage. Meanwhile, Nintendo does have overpriced first-party titles to justify purchasing their console, and Steam gets an easy 30% on each purchase on their platform. Which is why I find it odd how they want to join the console market if they don't have any actual game to sell with it.That, or they'll make a huge profit out of selling the Gabecube.
>>726049531Lemme go play my f2p multiplayer game on linux-ERP!9
>>726049818It's not that at all lots of newer games need more than 8 gigs of vram and valve cheaped out on it
>>726050196>It's not that at all lots of newer games need more than 8 gigs of vramthey don't
>>726048373Rules of PC buildingRule 1: Never buy new parts especially GPU'sRule 2: Never buy nvidia because raytracing is a memeRule 3: Never buy on ebay without returns accepted filter onWith these rules you can build a PC for $350 that valve is going to charge $700 for.
>>726049316Steam Deck 2 most likely going to look like this>semi-custom Medusa Point (8 cores/12 threads, 4 Zen 6 + 4 Zen 6c) (8 compute units of RDNA 3.5+)>16GB of RAM>256GB of storage>Wi-Fi 6E>7.9-inch 1920x1200 120Hz LCD screen>backported FSR 4, VRR, Frame Gen>HDR Support but handled like the LCD Steam Deck>2027 or 2028 release>$500Valve's going to cheap out.
>>726021113Hot take: A lesser powered console not made by Nintendo that everyone flocks to would be better for the industry. It would force them to learn how to compress their fucking games and get off their overly detailed face model addiction that has led to a generation of ugly bitches in every mainstream game
>>726049894I am still convinced Microsoft partially died because of the gamepass. It allowed gamers to play the new flavors of the month games for cheap, without paying much monthly, and early on you could even exploit the system to get the pass for free for even months.That's why there were so many populated games for a month that ended up abandonned. Subscribers move on and the company barely got any money out of them. It's super advantageous for the consumer, but as a result it killed most of the game companies that allowed their games on it.
>>726050516Sure, but the problem is to make people rush to this console. And I'm not sure if most Steam gamers are actually willing, like they were not 10 years ago when Valve tried a console, and like they were not with the Steam deck.Depending on the price, it might be a steal, but while I don't see a total flop like the first Steam machine, I don't see the success some ecelebs expect.
>>726049894If first parties mattered as much as you think, the Wii U wouldn't have crashed and burned, no one has bought a console for first parties in about 20 years. 360? Multiplats. PS4? Multiplats. Switch? Multiplats on a handheld.Besides, Valve's not entering the console race, they're gaining experience for the near future when ARM stops being a total joke of a platform and x86 gets phased out, so they can face Google and Apple where videogames are headed.
>>726050305I wouldn't build a pc with less than 16 right now
>>726028235>job application for Good WillHow are you doing special needs anon?
>>726021251Nothing, 8GB of VRAM is perfectly fine on a $200 GPU from 2010.
>biggest library of gamesWow I can play ALL of that shovelware?
>>726050898First parties only really matter for Nintendo. Xbox and PlayStation, you will indeed play multiplat games on it. But if you buy a Switch, you're 90% buying it for Mario, Kirby, Pokemon etc...There is a market for multiplat and exclusives. It just turns out that only Nintendo remained on that path.
>>726050898>If first parties mattered as much as you think, the Wii U wouldn't have crashed and burnedThe difference in this case being that the Wii U was a bother with the very large gamepad, and Nintendo had the 3DS with exclusives on there too, and it sold like hotcakes.Since Nintendo only has one console now, all the exclusives are limited to this system, so the fans are forced to go there to play their games. Plus it's an hybrid so works as a handheld too.I doubt Nintendo would sell that much without their properties.
>>726033476>that's half of PS5'sPS5 uses unified memory architecture. It has 16 GB total. 2GB of which is reserved for the OS, 0.5 GB of which is reserved for the SSD cache. That leaves 13.5 to work with, split between VRAM and main RAM use.8 GB VRAM is not unreasonable to use as a ceiling. The reason you tend to need more on PC platforms is because devs can't/won't optimize to the platform architecture. They're used to the tricks of the unified memory architecture flipping memory between main RAM and graphics RAM use, which allows zero-latency transfer when loading and manipulating mesh or texture data. That's not something PCs can do. They have to contend with a PCI-E bus.While the Steam Machine isn't a system-on-a-chip (SoC) Valve did solder in the CPU and GPU to the main board. They did that so they can optimize to that particular configuration, which - from interviews - they tried to put them close enough together and puzzled on the board layout to absolutely minimize the latency as far as it would go. It's still not as fast as with unified memory in a SoC, but it'll be damn well closer than with a regular gaming desktop.
>>726050770Xbox died because they priced the Xbone $100 higher than PS4. Everything else is irrelevant.
>>726040128>It's been fixed for years AnonIt was never actually fixed. The stutter-problem is a memory leak which ends in the game having to continuously swap out data until the frame rates become unplayable.After the publisher pulled the game from Steam, and then reintroduced it, they just doubled up on some of the minimum system requirements. This masks the problem from being noticed because it wouldn't realistically start appearing until you've played for something like 12 hours straight.
This cube will be the ultimate test of the whole "japan only buy small consoles" say.It's like just a bit bigger (and obviously taller) than the PC engine.So with the right marketing, it might actually do well in japan.
>>726051615Everybody has one device now, everything is an ecosystem. Switch is an all-in-one device, Steam hardware exists to sell SteamOS which will also come to other OEM handhelds, OEM consoles, while being available for anyone on a PC, future PlayStations will be of one ecosystem, future Xbox will be one ecosystem in multiple devices whether they're first-party or OEMs. The days of separate ecosystems are over.
>>726050770This, lacks of good games on it too, costs more than the PS5... And even Halo, they gave up and put it on PC, one of the few reasons to buy it.It never had a chance
>>726051476Wii U had those and failed. You are switching the selling point around just because the people playing 3rd parties ALSO bought 1st parties, while there are multiple cases of 1st parties not carrying a Nintendo console by themselves.>>7260516153DS was a severe drop from DS, actually. Incidentally, it was also 3rd party starved and 1st party stacked.
>>726050898>Wii U wouldn't have crashed and burnedThe wii u was tethered hardware that no one wanted in the rise of smartphones and tablets and and cheap party games like new super mario bros U, Super Mario 3D World, mario kart, and Smash. There was no 3d mario game, no proper Pokemon game because pokemon is a handheld series, no metroid and BotW came out in the last month of the console life. First party is the only reason anyone buys nintendo but it has to be good first party products.Here's a list of nintendo published games on wii uhttps://www.listchallenges.com/wii-u-games-published-by-nintendo
>>726051615Nintendo is Nintendo. It's unfair to compare others to them. They had years of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon before entering the market, so they can safely earn sales by the names of their franchises alone, especially considering there were huge lack of third party supports during the Wii era. And it still sold extremely well. The Wii U most likely failed due to the shit design, price and lack of games on release, like the PS3.
>>726021113Ana did nothing wrong.
>>726022405Literally true. The PS5 may have 36 CUs to its GPU compared to the Steam Machine's 28, but it's an RDNA2 architecture vs the Steam Machine's RDNA3. Also the PS5 runs its GPU at variable frequency up to 2.23 GHz at the very peak, which we know it cannot maintain for longer than a few seconds before thermal protection kicks in and it's forced to clock down. The Steam Machine instead runs its GPU at a SUSTAINABLE top frequency of 2.48 GHz.
You need steam games to use a steam machine otherwise it wont work.Steam games are just digital licenses.
>>726050898>no one has bought a console for first parties in about 20 yearsThat's a straight up lie, the main argument during the 360/PS3 era, so not even taking into account Nintendo, were the exclusives because, for the commonfolk at the time, they didn't care as much about the performance of the consoles and instead what they could get on them.Then you look at Nintendo and you see that it's exactly what is carrying them, with the one outlier being the Wii U because it genuinely had no games, and the few exclusives it had forced us to play with that shitty controler.
>>726048373It's enough unless the game was unoptimized poorly, as a joke.
>XBOX games on LinuxAre people retarded? lmao
>>726051637Do you think Valve would continue to iterate on a Steam Machine until it becomes a true console? I mean, assuming it finds a market and can sustain the investment needed to produce and maintain a video game console like Nintendo or Playstation hardware?
>>726021647There's a reason I grocery shop at Wegmans instead of Walmart.
>>726027252Yes and yes.
>>726052230I totally forgot how fucking empty the catalog was for the Wii U. And even a third of those games were port from the Wii (well, Nintendo is used to it, but that's even worse for such a limited amount of softwares)
>>726021113Is that Cenk Ugyir, HasanFaggis father?
>>726052735Most Xbox games are already on Windows and Proton can make most of those games work on Linux.
>>726021647we are used to paying for the privilege of segregation here.its worth it
>>726048998because both the ps4 and ps5 have used shared rameven the ps2 used a shared ram setup and the ps1 used ram as overflow vram for extra texture cachingthe ps3 is the only one that functioned with dedicated vram and it had its split vram setups for extra performance to do simulatenous calculations and it was a huge issue for developers as many are unfamiliar with multithreaded development.so playstation consoles generally do not have dedicated vram and use more of a shared ram setup, so no, it wont have dedicated vram unless they completely change their design philosophy from many consoles in a row.the shared ram setup means they don't need to duplicate things in vram and ram, so generally playstation consoles don't need as much ram so I expect it to have 24gb or 32gb shared ram.considering gpu architecture and the ram usage of games, unless there are significant changes in technology or the ps6 is delayed until like 2029 or something absurd, it is most likely to be 24gb.
>>726050898who the fuck buys a switch for the witcher 3, rdr2 or cyberpunk? the reason is the nintendo games, that's the only true advantage, anything else about the console is a downgrade compared to sony and microsoft
>>726052751My money would be on the first-gen Steam Machine being a prototype, which will be followed up in the years to come by a spec revision that uses a dedicated SoC with unified memory - which will put it at the same level as a hypothetical PS6.Right now, this first version is basically the dry run. You can see that from the fact that Valve is using stock parts rather than a custom SoC. They're even using a stock gaming laptop CPU on which they've lasered off the integrated GPU to force the dedicated one to be used.
>>726021251Modern titles chug on 8GBs of Vram evem in upscaled 1080P on medium/low presets anon.
>>726049894>Which is why I find it odd how they want to join the console market if they don't have any actual game to sell with it.The Steam Machine is not a console. It's a PC that looks like a console and requires less thinking than a regular PC.
yeah but ps6 is getting a 2026 release.
>>726049143Just about every one of them. I avoided Wilds and DD2 though. Fuck Crapcom.
>>726052991Ok so the ps6 will still have more shared ram than the ps5
>>726022721at that point they would rather optimize to run it on the switch 1 lol
I’ll take 5 and a Take Five bar, thanks.
>>726053259*2027
>>726053543*2026we are assorting for it in our modular
>>726052602>That's a straight up lie, the main argument during the 360/PS3 era, so not even taking into account Nintendo,...was whether a console could run the 3rd party games people actually wanted to play at 600p24fps with grass or 540p16fps without it. 1st parties were only ever known on name basis by console warring beaners, old fans lamenting sequels being movies, and occasionally general audiences mocking them flopping and memory holing them.>>726053071You did a few hours ago. You will in a few hours. How can you possibly try to deny your own script?
>>726053736>You did a few hours ago. You will in a few hours. How can you possibly try to deny your own script?what
i heard that half-life 3 is also gonna come sooner, i'm not kidding kek, there's been actual leaks about a "hlx" and references about xen creaturesit's rumored that half-life 3 will come when the steam machine comes out.
>>726053205Make a list of 10 modern games that would struggle with 8 GB VRAM.
>>726021113how much does PS5, XSeX and Switch 2 have?
>>726021251nothing. if youre in 2012
>>726053736Oh come on, 7 out of the 10 best selling games on the Playstation 3 were exclusives, and the 360 was not shy either on that side. That the games were shit, big deal, they are even worse nowadays, but saying it's not important to people is a lie, else we would really have no exclusives at all.
>>726054395PS6 will have at least 24
>>726050516Yeah! Just like they did with Deus Ex Infinity War! That'll show them!
>>726026938>flopped?flopped? Was it even fucking released?
>>726054992Yeah, but it was the very early days of SteamOS and people were still satified with their consoles back then. Ended up selling 600k units in 18 months.
>>726047865true, but have you SEEN xbox?
>>726053736>Heavenly SwordI miss the days when gooner games were common place.
>>726055217>Ended up selling 600k units in 18 months.like fucking where? a strip mall in Ohio? I thought it was one of these Patron online-only-buy scams. Now they are indistinguishable from chinese knock offs.
>>726053305yeah....?but 16gb of shared ram is not the same as 16gb of vram16gb of faster vram and 32gb of regular ram is going to run better than 32gb of shared ram, it depends on the scope of the game, but it will perform better.the steambox is already better than a ps5, significantly so, and unless the ps6 is 32gb of shared ram its going to be about equivalent to it.I can go into why we have separate ram and vram, why shared ram is pretty good for games but the drawbacks it has, but I don't really think you care.yeah the ps6 will have more shared ram, no it will most likely not have dedicated vram as basically none of the playstations do.
8GB of VRAM isn't even bad, the Steam Machines will have SteamOS, and the Steam Deck's Verified program. Developers simply need to learn how to OPTIMIZE THEIR GAMES.
>>726056015You're not blowing anyone's mind here, man, everyone knows the ps6 will have more vram than the ps5
>>726021015I played Star Shitizan with 8gb of vram you tards are out of control
>>726021113My desktop has an RTX 2060 with 6 GB of VRAM and I still haven't encountered a game I couldn't run.
>>726058345yeah, which is why I am wondering why its even being said and questioned about.I was talking about that shared ram is different from dedicated vram and saying the ps6 will have more than the ps5 is obvious and I have no idea why he said that or thought it was relevant.
>>726021015> Cheap, cheaper, cheaper, cheap, cheap, cheap!Yup, it's the thirdie box.
>>726022721this but unironically, adapt or die
it'll be just as niche as the deck. they don't understand casuals don't want computersthey want plug and playthat shit will be closer but still not plug and play
>>726021015The headset looks good might get me back into VR after meta ruined it
>>726053736WiiPS360 gen was truly the start of videogames' decline, look at that fucking line up of brown shit.Even sadder is that now Zoomies are trying to revision it as the "good ol' days" of gaming.
>>726059487the gabecube is plug and play tho
>>726053736LBP should still be around and it's criminal MGS 4 is never re released. Rest are whatever boomer shit
>>726056953>Developers simply need to learn how to OPTIMIZE THEIR GAMES.Why sell to an already dying market outside of china when you could just optimize for the switch at that point?And not even chink money could save MH wilds mind you.
>muh 8GBPeople seem to forget its purpose is playing AA and indie games, and streaming AAA from your more powerful PC. Think Ouija on steroid. Gaben is one again single handedly saving PC gaming and people (some I suppose are epic employees) still spit on his face...
which one of you did this
What's the use case for the steam machine?
>>726060419console-like experience on PC
>>726029053fr why didn't they release it on pc? Is there any other game that is so needlessly stuck in consoles like ctr?
>>726060618You mean what you can get on hardware you already own by just opening steam big picture mode?
>>726021171LOL I get your shit for free LMAO
>>726021015>it's just another computerYeah that's why Im not buying it
>>726054395even switch 2 has 12gb
>>726060885can you download game updates while your machine is suspended?
>>726021489Im still waiting for Sony and MS to release a good game for their current gen.
>>726021253that is what big boy consoles cost now, you're delusional to think they won't be after PS5 Pro and rog ally xbox
>>726021015>näytä enemmän
>>7260211134x what I currently have.
>>726049081Not one game worth playing has Denuvo. It only looks effective because it's on games no one cares about.
>>726021489>speculatedLet me guess, a random youtuber pulled shit out of his ass and now you're citing him?
>>726051092I wouldn't *build* one with less than 24 but I just bought a laptop with 8 because I needed that form factor and my budget only allowed so much money. Likewise if I was buying a discreet living room PC I don't expect a 5090.If the cube is $500 I would be much more tolerant of 8GB VRAM than if it's $800. I don't know why anyone is even trying to have this conversation at this point, it's all dependent on the price.Also I don't care about missing out on AAAslop and apparently neither does anyone else because all the big studios are going bankrupt or downsizing. It's not profitable to spend $400 million developing a game and then only sell a couple million copies.
>>726021113you can't pleasure an animal with only 8GB of GDDR6.
>>726021489and it's not coming out for 2 more years and when it does gabecube's competitors will pummel it into the dust
>>726065376>If the cube is $500 I would be much more tolerant of 8GB VRAMi wouldn'tit doesn't come with a screen, a battery, a keyboard and a trackpad plus a proprietary licensed OS from a pajeet companyif it were 300 or at most 400 then sure, it's entry level shit and it would be extremely entitled to complainbut for 500? just buy a switch 2more than that? you're funding the kike fatso buying another yacht company
>>726065769>buy something that's 3x weaker because it can play like 5 games
>>726022337>In less than 2 years the ps6 will come outdelusional
>>726021251retards don't understand that they'll run out of GPU power before they run out of gpu ram
>>726065867The problem with gabedrones even trying to defend the goycube is the cost with those 8gb of vram.If you're arguing exclusives then a switch 1 is still dirt cheap and has a fuckton more games people care about instead of a gorillion vampire survivors and deckbuilder roguelite shovelware.If you're arguing cost then a switch 2 is cheaper while actually being a portable instead of a glorified mini-pc.If you're arguing cost for the shitskin turd world markets, this shit is not even going to be sold outside first world countries like the original goydeck either way.
>>726065937speaking of which, the fact it uses an old AyyMD gpu means no DLSS, no FSR4, it won't be able to be used for AI shit, it won't have the fancy productivity shit from intel, and it will have dubious driver support due to how AMD has been acting latelywhat is the goddamn point of this jewcube when the poornigger meta is STILL to this day to grab an used office shitbox for peanuts and shoving in an used low profile ewaste class card like the rtx 2060 or the rx 6400.
>>726066128copethe gabecube will emulate the switch better than what the switch 2 runs the switch games ata small minority of people want their primary system to be portableyou're buying the switch 2 to play less than 10 games while the gabecube will have access to all but like 100 games in existence
>>726066407>Even with better hardware, the steamgoyim accept nintendo games are the only games worth playing.Goddamn grim.And that's ignoring a modchipped switch oled is cheaper in shitskin countries than the goydeck, literally half the price in fact.
>8GB vram>2025lul
>>726066852you're shilling your baby toy retardare you expecting the conversation to not be about how hard your toy gets eclipsed?as i've said before, you buy the switch 2, you get the switch and switch 2 gamesyou buy the gabecube, you get the switch games plus every single fucking game since the dawn of computingyou're buying your tendie slave box to get early access to less than 10 games
>>726067014>2025No anon, that's the punchline.It's not coming out until 2026 minimum, more realistically 2027-2028 knowing valve.
>>726067089>you buy the gabecube, you get the switch games plus every single fucking game since the dawn of computingor i could just use the computer i already have instead of giving money to a kike yacht management company even office shitboxes with their igpus can emulate up to the dreamcast without problems these days
>>726022721Honestly, the Gabecube telling devs what specs to aim for on PC is the single greatest thing about it.
>>726067227might as well just build a proper pc then?why are you giving money to a bunch of schizophrenic kikes that are scared of people actually enjoying playing their games on something better than a shiny toy?
>>726067256The goydeck didn't save PC gaming from an unoptimized slop future, what makes you think the second attempt at steam machines will?
>>726067393Because it isn't a handheld; it's being marketed as a prebuilt PC.
>>726067550Optimizing for the weak PiS5 hardware didn't work, what makes you think this will?
>>726021113Kek look at pcbros seething
>>726068306because it's just a matter of making lower settings options?it's not a fucking console, it has an options menu where you do more than choose between two fucking modes like how the console brainlets are treated
>>726021015NEW CONSUMER PRODUCT NEW PRODUCT :^OOOOO!!!!
>>726068618>retard doesnt understand that different GPUs with different prices and different performance need different amounts of vram
>>726068618Seeing basically every single technigger that (rightfully) whined about 8GB of VRAM on modern cards do a full 180 and bootlick the yacht company has been quite something.In just 3 days I lost all respect I still had for some of them after the current NDS saga.
>>726021113Literally more than enough. If your game needs more than 8GB of VRAM, it's unoptimised slop.
>>726068618>non-optimized GPU vs semi-custom optimized pre-builtKnow the difference, it might save your life
>>726021150you WILL share your servers with pajeets, chinks and russians and you WILL like it!
basednow devs will be forced to optimize or i will refund simple as thatif enough of us collectively decide 8gb is enough and it is, these faggots wont be out here expecting $2000 graphics cards to do all the heavy lifting and they can unemploy some jeet code monkeys who have been doing fuck all for optimization >>726021113
>>726054631Dues Ex Infinity War is not a game console made by a recognizable gaming brand with a loyal following. Hope that helps
>>726050498>With these rules you can build a PC for $350 that valve is going to charge $700 for.Fuck no you can't.
>>726021113FUCK MY NIGGER LIFE
>tfw 12gb 3060Ti
>>726069320you are inbred nigger that knows nothing about hardware or software kill yourself and suck kike cock
>>726069313>>726070259And this is why the switch is the only platform worth giving money to these days lol.
Imagine being a gabetranny
>>726070927nintendo literally seethes at the prospect of people playing their games on something stronger than a tablet lmao
>>726021113based Valve proving that 8gb vram is actually enough
>>726071290you don't have to imagine it, they proudly show it on their ads now
>>726071290https://instinctmagazine.com/survey-are-gaymers-more-into-playstation-or-xbox/The data didn’t stop there. The Nielson gaming survey also found that LGBTQ gamers were more likely to be console owners than PC owners. 77 percent of LGBTQ gamers owned a console while 29 percent were PC-based. The majority, however, can agree that mobile games are not worth it. While 51 percent supported consoles, only 13 percent said they preferred mobile games. And which consoles were LGBTQ gamers’ choice? PlayStation led the pack with a 38% support from LGBTQ gamers. Meanwhile, XBOX had 22 percent of respondents’ support and Nintendo garnered 19 percent.
Weaker than ps5 lmao, i thought pc fats cared about performance so why shill gabecube with worse performance
>>726071418good on them, I'll support the girls if they stand by my 8gb vcard. game love and live
>>72605462024 gb of shared ram isn't that muchgabecube has 8gb vram and 16gb of system ram, so also 24 total. If you're building a new gaming PC today you should be aiming for a 16gb video card and 32 gb of system memory
>>726071562Dude, you can't go on discord tranny server (aka their psychological support group) on a console. Please stop humiliating yourself.
>>726070663>12gb 3060Tino such thing
>>726071715please stop trying to humiliate yourself fighting actual data
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>>726021264>scraps>And not the steam deck
>>726071752>Actual dataRequested study, you mean?
>>726071874>it's wrong because... because of my anecdote ok???you lostconsole users are substantially more likely to be faggots
>>726021015Jimmy gonna get a Gabecube with a Steam giftcard for Christmas while his parents haven't a clue the Steam store isn't sanitized like console stores & porn games are everywhere kek
>>726072007weird thing to joke about. are you 65? a kid can see naked ladies on his smartphone.
>>726071562>LGBTQ are all on PlayStation and Xbox>Snoys try to make it look like they're only on Nintendo and PC platformsXSnoys, not even once.
>>726071998>NOOOO GAME URINALISTS SAID THIS IT MUST BE TRUEWhatever makes you sleep at night, gabetranny!
>>726072376it's a fucking survey of faggots you utter moronyou lost
>>726066403>it won't be able to be used for AI shitgood
>>726021015>shilling so hard a product NO ONE KNOWS THE PRICE OFthis is fucking ridiculous
>>726021489I'm sure the games will be there anon
>>726072494Stay mad, PCtranny.
>>726072794you're the one that came into the thread raving about trannies and you're now coping against hard datayou need to self reflect lmao
>>726025764No because that was just shit optimization, you can play Remake 4 and Village with 8gb of VRAM just fine nowadays.Same with shit like the Last of Us part 1, Starfield and even MHW runs much better with a 4060 than how it did at launch.The>8gb of VRAMMeme is just an excuse to skip optimization
>>726025764I'm sure capcom is well known for their amazing optimization team, and you're well known to be profoundly retarded
>>7260650161050?
so happy i got my 4090 before the orange turd made everythin retardedly expensive
>>726068758please understand hes a retarded consolewarrior
>>726071357>8gb of vram is fine, devs just have to optimize>NO, NOT LIKE THAT, STOP GIVING MONEY TO JAPAN, REEEEEEEEEEE>>726071998not just that, kikebarrier 5 users are leading the tranny charge
>>726071290I wish I could be your boyfriend
>>726049315kys shill
>>726021189>half the shitName one (1)
>>726072925>Hard dataLMAO!This cuck is really try to sell the fact there are more trannies on consoles than on PC...have you ever see a "post your battlestation" thread, you fucking cuck?
can it emulate nintendo switch games?
>>726074597even if by some miracle the fatso decides to price it at 500 bucks and losing out on one yacht because of it, it's still cheaper to buy a modchipped switch and be a piratefag that way
>>726051954>future PlayStations will be of one ecosystemMost likely scenario is that Xbox/Playstation dies and Nintendo takes over console market completely.>>726051615>Since Nintendo only has one console now, all the exclusives are limited to this system, so the fans are forced to go there to play their games. Plus it's an hybrid so works as a handheld too.This is why Nintendo won in my opinion. No company can beat the value.
>>726073914yes, you continue to display your inability to understand definitionsanecdotes are not in fact hard data like those surveys
>>726021113More than enough for me.
>>726074998>Most likely scenario is that Xbox/Playstation dies and Nintendo takes over console market completely.Yeah, pretty much, while Valve completely takes the PC market.
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>>726021113Don't care. Devs need to optimize their shit instead of making it the consumers problem, forcing them to upgrade every six seconds. Everyone else complaining is welcome to go suck nigger dicks.
>no physical game supportYou niggers seriously gonna pay $700 to access your revokeable digital licenses?
>>726076261see, the thing about pc is that if steam ever goes rogue you can unrevoke those licences in 5 minutesno such thing with consoles
>>726076367by that logic there's no point in ever giving steam any money ever again when i can just get their games for free on the computer i already haveluckily for you that's what im already doing, why waste money on westoid platforms when i can just give money to the nintendo jp eshop instead?
>>726076494convenience and support for developers?i'm sorry for you if you genuinely believe that physical won't go extinct by 2040
>>726076367That doesn't change the fact that you'd end up with nothing but your dick after spending thousands of $$$ and will then pirate things you can't play online, same as people who did not spend thousands of $$$. I don't even need Internet to play the games on my discs since I got a physical product for my money.
>>726076585>i'm sorry for you if you genuinely believe that physical won't go extinct by 2040i got told this 2 more years goy by the early 360/ps3 era
>>726076646the worst that could ever happen to steam is it being downgraded to being on par with consoles, yet you trust their black box hardware that you can't control
>>726070086SAUCE
>>726021113I refuse to play UE5slop
>>726021015>better performance than the current-gen consolesI don't know about that... Maybe in single core CPU performance, since it clocks quite high.
>>726076494It's a PC. You're free to install Windows on it if you really want to. Unlike consoles, Valve can't ban your account for doing weird shit to it if they detect it. Now, would you want to rip off the case and heat sink is another question, but no one is going after you for doing so.
>>726021113based gabe, forcing lazy devs to optimize their shitty code
>>726076780I have plugged my console into my tv and played a game off of my cartridge without ever connecting any of it to the internet. You will never own any game you play and Gaben will take it away the moment you stop guzzling his cum.
>>726077296imagine being at this level of schizo yet still using electronics and the internetif you're going to virtue signal at least commit to it
>>726021015I believe that from the Steam Survey, over 70% of Steam users have a slower computer than the Steam Machine.Like some other anon said, they will compete with "big boy" consoles like the PS5 Pro.
>>726021113>All this copeWhy are valvefags like this? They're literally the only fanbase that acts like this.
>>726021251Nothing really if you are using a small monitor which makes sense given the hardware survey they based performance off use 1080p. When you market it for the living room where you’ll often find the biggest TV’s you run into trouble.
>>726021994>No repairability, can't swap parts, cant upgrade, underwhelming specswhy would normies even remotely care about any of that, they probably came from playing on a phone anyways
>>726077574I find it ridiculous as well, but no they aren't.
>>726077516It doesn't cost money to funpost here. My schizo starte and ends at paying real money for "licences". It's not even paranoia - Oculus sold to Facebook and wiped over $500 of games I had bought off of the Oculus store before I refused to make a goybook account. Anyone who think it can't happen to Steam because Gabes is le based is a fucking moron with no pattern recognition.
>>726077574How much VRAM does a Switch have again?
>>726070410Yes, You can.
>>726027817>built in retard protection that doesn't let youIt takes 2 seconds exactly to disable the immutable distro shit if you want. But having it on is a good idea for 99.99% of the gaming population.
>>726077638True enough plus you can upgrade the storage and ram at least. As for how self repair friendly it is we’ll have to see but if the Deck is anything to go off if it’ll probably be okay for those not afraid to take it apart.
>>726077752all of this can be evaded by just making the steam machine/deck into le epic pirating machine, there
>>726077835you mean adding write permissions in fstab?i remember reading about some redditor having steamos crap itself because he bruteforced pacman -Syuif you wanted to freedommaxx the cube you're probably better off installing arch or cachyos and enabling steam big picture on top of that
Gabe just put 8 more gigs in and make it 400-450 and you won. I dare you.
>>726021489VRAM AND RAM ARE NOT THE SAME YOU FUCKING RETARDS
didnt they say its fully customizable? why are people complaining when you can just slap another 8 gb stick in there?
>>726021113What game isnt compatible with 8gb vram?
>>726022209MilleniGods are the last real humans. “People” born after the 90’s don’t have a Soul.
>>726022209>le generation le fighting le memeGo back to the sharty.
>>726021251It was unaccepted to have that even in the early-to-mid 2010s in your custom PC.
>$750
>>726022209Are you fucking serious, the whole reason Xbox died was because of us. We hated it. Fuck off.
>>726021113I have 6GBs, and I can play Battlefield 6 and pretty much any other game, hell even MH wilds worked fine and apparently works evem better with the uncompressed texture mod
>>726021015NOOOO they ported my exclusiverinooooos!!!!! Muh exclusive toyyyyyy!!!! This.... this isn't fair...!!!!!!!!
>>72604221428CUs should be enough considering there are people who are playing with RX 6600 (also has 28 CUs and its RNDA2) and they can run 1440p games just fine as long you don't care about playing at 60fps or higher or worse, lock at 40fps if you turn up some of the settings, which is fine because youre fucking playing it on a TV with a controller
>>726079047They can be if there is a unified architecture, saar.
>>726080939shut the fuck up
>>726021113Good enough for all emulators in 4K before current gen.
Graphics are good enough, & have been for a while now. Pushing for fidelity increase well beyond the point of diminishing returns drives up game prices, extends development time & misallocates dev resources away from actually consequential features.
>>726021113Trannies hated this post...
>>726077823Twice as large as the Gabecube tho
>>726080939retard, unified architecture doesnt work very well for PCs, GDDR6 cant be used a system RAM because of how much latency there is, its whole purpose is to do video rendering, thats why the Xbox has 6GBs of fast system memory and 10GBs of high bandwidth VRAM. the steam deck has DDR5 but its max bandwidth is like 90GBs compared to 180 of GDDR6, the reason why they can't do GDDR6 for Steam Machine because the linux kernal expects fast (to a degree of like 5 nano seconds) of latency while GDDR6 could have like 20times more of that latency.
>>726081854Pajeet, you just proved me correct by pointing out that the Steam Deck relies entirely on DDR5.The existence of APUs proves you wrong.
>>726051903Valve would have to open up a Japanese subsidiary for it. The Japs will never buy something they feel is too Americanized. It's why they hated the "Mega Drive" after all.
>>726082098then you would know the steam deck is bandwidth starved too, even if it had a better GPU, and its CPU was better, it would still have limited performance if you were crank up the resolution and settings because of the little bandwidth it has
>>726028121More powerful than a series S, lol
>>726082332>white handlmfao sharty shitter blown the fuck out
>>726082332>goalpost shifts to bandwidth starvationA white man cannot be this stupid. Turn the orange filter down next time, pajeet.
>>726082858you will never make it to hyperborea
>>726083003>MolesGot some bad news
Integrated will always suck dick because of slow ram. APUs are good only because they're compact.
>>726083003>that hair>that colorPost eyes.
>>726077823>ryzen 5>76 dollarsI'm out of touch, is this real?
>>726083428
>>726083938>magically non-white now because reasonsThe guys that keep asking for photos are all brown/SEA i bet.
>>726021015>biggest library >steam os Lol, LMAOOOO
>>726021015So like.... Why would I want an overpriced PC?
>>726083938>brown eyesI'm sorry for your condition.
>>726084098im not.
>>726083938Sometimes I worry about posting myself accidentally because I'll get doxxed or something.But holy shit so many people look completely generic like I will never remember this face.
>>726084549im not worried because i dont ever post face to social media, and if so it better be private
>>726084649Like even if you did.... Who the hell knows about your social media? Reverse image search is functionally useless
