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Topic title.

Yep.

The Japanese Government are considering making it illegal to change things in translations of Japanese works outside of actually translating the words.

In the past few years, localizers have caught a lot of flak for injecting their own politics into video games and accusing anyone who doesn't agree with it of being an incel. Seems like the Japanese Government finally had enough.

If this law passes it could completely turn the localization industry on its head, and many devs might even resort directly to AI for higher quality translations and completely dodging the risk of hiring a localizer that might still try to sneak woke messages into a translation. It is still unclear if the law will apply retroactively or only to new games going forward. Personally I hope this law passes as I'm quite tired of translators basically getting to re-write whole games to fit their politics if they feel like it. Thoughts?
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>Non-Gaming News
It's literally in the article you fucking retard
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Yeah i dony fucking care about that honestly. Give me my pantyshots back. Im sick of tacky black voids and ugly black spats. Give. Me. My. Panty. Shots. Back. The translations have always sucked, restoring japans ability to make great aesthetics is more important right now.
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>>726021868
Yes please. I don't have to learn Japanese now.
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>>726021868
I'm all for more accurate TLs, but who's to say what is and isn't a faithful TL? Translation isn't a direct, word-for-word process, and different translators can word the same line slightly differently, subtly altering its meaning. I assume this proposed law only applies to radical localizations and blatant insertions, though, so I'm good with it.
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>>726021868
Based
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>>726022001

Read the fucking headline.

On a website for gaming news, something that AFFECTS gaming to a large degree but is not EXPLICITLY about gaming might be tagged that way, but that does not mean it has no relation to games.

Are you fucking stupid?
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>>726021868
Holy fuck.
Please.
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lol stupid zoomers thinking 0 localized flair is a good thing, every anime will sound like Speed Racer again
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>>726022001
FPBP
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>>726022381
KATAKANA LOGIC:
>What is that thing? I have nrver seen it before. Its people call it a "bear"? Ok. I will call it a "bear".

LOCALIZER FAG LOGIC:
>What is that thing? I have never seen it before. Its people call it a "bear"? I don't know what that is. Well, it has fur and teeth like a dog. And I know what dogs are. So i'll call it a dog.


Bears are not dogs you fuckass moron.
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>>726022381
>every anime will sound like speed racer
Literally an objective improvement to the millenial writing that plauges games now to the point where speed racer like dialouge is something to look forward to and be exited about.
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>>726022381
Why have not killed yourself?
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>>726022381
You obviously need some wiggle room. This is probably to prevent shit like what happened to the Lovely Complex anime.
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>>726022183
Tick tock, faggot trannylator.
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>>726022659
What happened to the Lovely Complex anime? Doubt it's worse than Pizza Cats.
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>>726022183
One solution to this would be to only allow AI translations. Sure, different models will produce slightly different results, but they are unbiased and actual perform TRANSLATION, not LOCALIZATION.
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Well, no netflix oe crunchyroll money for you then nippon, don't come begging for it later
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This should have happened like 10 years ago.
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>>726022620
>>726022636
>>726022640
>>726022659
lol I forgot that zoomers don't even know what Speed Racer is
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>>726022852
We know what it is, we perfer it to your shitty, "writing", millenial.
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>>726022792
Crunchyroll is literally made from the backs of pirates, so is Fakku. Both of those shit "companies" going corporate killed a lot of goodwill that I had for western translating groups. I prefer fansubs to their trash.
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Crunchyroll is corporate cancer
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>>726022748
Learn how to read before bashing your head against the keyboard you illiterate oo-oo aa-aa monkey nigger.
>>726022772
Not necessarily. In my experience, AI also tends to extrapolate the meaning of phrases and add its own flair to them. You'd also need to proofread with humans, since AI is subject to hallucinations. I recently found out that an Australian consulting firm is being fined millions for providing the government with a largely AI-generated report, which cited papers that don't exist. Translations of entire games with AI could have similar implications, so they need to be regulated to some extent.
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>>726022752
The localization was handled by some faggot Youtuber that had originally been hired for some minor position. He turned the girl lead into a psychopath and the boy lead into a pussy because he knows better, and then responded to the backlash by shitting on the mangaka and the anime producers.
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>>726023075
>I recently found out that an Australian consulting firm is being fined millions for providing the government with a largely AI-generated report, which cited papers that don't exist.
That's hilarious but blackpilling
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What are some games you'd like to see re-translated after this law has passed if it turns out it is not applied retroactively?
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>>726021868
Localizations are merely the tip of the iceberg, they need to make it illegal to force changes to content in games as well, and sanction the main actors responsible for this (Sony and Nintendo). There are still Japanese publishers interested in providing an authentic experience, but it is difficult for them to do so when platform holders threaten to block them from the market.
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>>726022304
Maybe my Christian coworker wouldn't watch this with a real translation. A very good thing.
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>>726022102
>Im sick of tacky black voids and ugly black spats. Give. Me. My. Panty. Shots. Back.
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>>726023171
Localizers also came out in droves to defend the guy, and then he got blacklisted
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>>726023075
>AI also tends to extrapolate the meaning of phrases and add its own flair to them.
Let's be fair, that is INCREDIBLY rare and generally only happens when the user intentionally tries to confuse the AI for social media screenshot clout.

>You'd also need to proofread with humans, since AI is subject to hallucinations
Once again, hallucinations were a problem in 2024, not so much in 2025. And if this law passes it probably won't be until 2026, at which point we might even be well on our way to actual AGI.

>an Australian consulting firm is being fined millions for providing the government with a largely AI-generated report, which cited papers that don't exist
Video games are generally speaking works of fiction, so this doesn't really apply. Papers or books or whatever mentioned in a game don't have to actually exist IRL.
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>>726021868
>Thoughts?
Reze a cute.
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>>726021868
I actually don't like this law. It's probably necessary and should pass but I think the concepts in japanese are way to fucking sticky for this to work because the only person who is going to decide who's correct are people who can't speak English. If they somehow do bring that up to speed with translators I guess it would be okay. I still prefer xstelle.
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>>726022102
It's Japanese laws restricting that not us. Us just stops it with payment processors. Japan actually wrote some kind of feminist bullshit law that does that.
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>>726022381
>speed racer
>bad
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>>726023264
strange how you dont mention any western storefronts like Steam or GOG censoring and blocking japanese games
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>>726022304
Lil bro, the 鬼 in 鬼滅の刃 is often interpreted as demon or devil.
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>>726023542
I'm someone who translates fanfics with ai. You are fucking wrong it gets a ton of shit messed up constantly. It turned renne into rean, messed up gender, used strange phrasing. You think of it. It did it.
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>>726021868
I like the idea but it sounds difficult to legislate. If it's too strict it could negatively interfere with the translation process but if it's too lenient then it'll be toothless.
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>>726023773
I'm only mentioning the ones under direct Japanese jurisdiction since the government can act on them directly for best results.
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>>726022620
>>726021868
Bears aren't dogs.
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>>726024008
based
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Translations will be handled by AI henceforth.

>But-

Shut up.
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>>726022001
kek op btfo
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>>726021868
me wishin a nipper would
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>>726022381
>Do you seriously want to watch anime without funny marvel one liners
>You'll get bored and come back to us soon
>STOP FIRING US WHO'S GONNA PUT THE FUNNY JOKES INTO THE DIALOG
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>>726024303
You're just focusing on it done poorly and ignore when it's done well. You have no argument.
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>>726024090
Saved
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>>726024448
Pic unrelated I assume?
In japanese Evil Athena keeps her motherly nature. When fighting Pit she Politely requests that he kill himself, meanwhile in EN she just gets rewritten to be a generic evil villain.
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The only reason anyone would license this is now gone, they don't care for sales they care for pushing an agenda.
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>>726022772
god you are fucking retarded
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>>726021868
If this actually gets through and is enforced I couldn't be happier. All localizers and their defenders deservers the rope and nothing else.
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>>726025614
>If this actually gets through and is enforced I couldn't be happier.
They need to go further they did so much damage to there own industry even with the government 100% behind them and willing to repeal rules and regulations that would get in the way of recovery like employment laws stopping them firing gaijin and woke people and kicking cero down it would still take decades to fix this.
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>>726024008
Same energy as
>What is that? A man in a wig? Its people call it a "woman"? Ok. I will call it a "woman"
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everyone's talking about waiting for boomer to die, but I can't wait to see millennials die in my lifetime.
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>>726022001
/thread
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>>726025878
CERO is a minor issue compared to platform holders imposing censorship directly. Address that first. The risque games targeted for censorship pass CERO with no issues.
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>>726022381
>seething trannylator realizes he is too stupid to get a real job and makes a stinky now that is grift is about to end
Back to sucking dicks for a living, sweetie ;)
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>>726021868
BRING BACK LOLI, PETTANKO AND PANTYSHOTS
MAKE 2D GREAT AGAIN
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>>726021868
How are they gonna enforce that against non-Japanese?
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>>726022792
Sony owns CR. Why would a Japanese company cripple their own sub company that they bought?
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>>726022183
You are, demonstrably, wrong.

Almost everything has a literal translation that carries across and in the rare case where nuanced language or cultural references don't translate well, they can easily be asterixed in written works, left untranslated (Such that the individual who has heard the term is encouraged to look it up, just like any word they don't know - loan word or otherwise) or simply translated as accurately as possible by somebody actually familiar with the term.

Eg, Itadakimasu:
>I accept this food* -- * This is a common saying in Japan prior to consuming a meal, to show appreciation.
>Itadakimasu!
>Thanks for the food we're about to enjoy!

There's no fucking need for
>Ruba dub dub, thanks for the grub
Or
>I graciously accept this nourishment into my body
Or
>Itadakimasu* --- * This phrase is used to signify that a Japanese person has an attachment to tradition and spiritualism, they are thanking the house gods for providing them with a meal in line with the tenets of budhism.
or any of the other nonsense localisers invent instead of doing their job.
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>>726026430
Anonymous tips from non-loocalizers + fines.
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>>726025957
Literally the opposite.
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>>726026569
For me it's
>Through the dark lord, Amen
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>>726025614
>>726025878

God you guys are stupid how can you fall for bait this obvious

It's literally just the govt using funds for anime and games, we don't even know how or through what system

My main worry is it'll just end up in the pockets of committees rather than animators, or that it'll exacerbate the animator shortage
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>>726023025
The entire western anime and manga industry is made from the back of "pirates". Anime and manga would be relatively unknown if fan translations didn't exist
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>>726022183
99% of translation literally is word for word, or at least concept for concept. The overlap between Japan and english is nearly total. The handful of exceptions can be managed with literal translations that are slightly awkward, or footnotes.
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>>726026470
Because they lost WW2 and are salty ever since then. They would let CR go sudoku if it means ">take that white devil" for them
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>>726026430
Extradition + putting out calls to arrest any woke localizers who won't comply with the laws the moment they set foot on Japanese land. Blacklist any companies that work with said localizers, e.g. refuse to do business with them, block any B2B transactions with them from Japanese corporate accounts, deny them entry into Japan.
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>>726022304
Retard.
The Japanese name is just "Blade of Demon Destruction" when rendered in English. "Demon Slayer" is that converted into a reasonable English title.
You gonna get mad that "Shingeki no Kyojin" is not "Attack on Titan" next?
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>>726021868
What if one wants to trade translation accuracy for matching lip movement when it comes to dubs
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Yabia has like 4000 problems and the title's translation ain't one

How about the literal only way to kill a demon is to sever its head, and that never, ever fucking works
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>>726027296
>The Japanese name is just "Blade of Demon Destruction"
SO close! The word "oni" is a Japanese concept that actually does not have a one-to-one literal equivalent in English. If you think it's *roughly* similar enough to "demon" that such is an accurate translation for the title of a manga, the only thing that means is that you have as little respect for Japanese culture and language as the SJW localizers that started this whole fucking mess in the first place.
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>>726026969
The fact that they felt the need to give even lip service to the idea of curbing censorship means we can and should push for more substantial action.
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>>726027603
>SO close! [MTL babble]
I don't give a shit if you think "Oni" is such a dense word rich with meaning, it gets translated to demon in most cases, and there's no significant reason to not do so here.
>b-but muh heaven and hell
Demon as a term is used regardless of religious connotations.
>b-but muh respect
It's a shitty dime a dozen battle manga, who fucking cares.
>b-b-b-but muh
Like I said, why aren't you mad about "Shingeki no Kyojin" getting translated to "Attack on Titan"?
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>>726027718
>Censoring censorship mean less censorship you guys

Hell no. Once these fuckers get their grubby little paws over the rights to alter and decide media content it won't stop there. You know it, I know it.
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>localization thread
Reminder that /v/'s favourite anime of all time, as decided on over a decade ago, is the dubbed version of Dragon Ball Z.
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>>726026569
Lmao, what about random references to stories/historical events that make no sense outside the country?

For example 瀬戸際 is about doing a "last stand", but that the literal translation is the "time of Seto".

Each language is like this, even if they share vocabulary/grammar/writing systems there's always common cases where a literal translation is impossible to understand.
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>>726027851
Retard, "no alterations to content" doesn't leave much room for interpretation. As things stand, you can't even release games from less than a decade ago on any platform. Loocalizations are the least of our issues. Kindly stop concern trolling people demanding solutions. Do you think Nintendo or Sony are going to stop doing this shit without a foot up their asses?
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>>726028039
well you can learn what they mean
>b-but you can't expect peo-
too bad 外人
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>>726027972
The abridged version is so much better.

One of the first thing I used the internet for was look up anime censorship by 4kids. They had entire pages dedicated to stuff like sailor moon with screenshot comparisons and timestamps.
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>Other countries will do what i said because i said so
Boy i know people were saying japan had its own trump now but i thought they were just talking about dick sucking lmao
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>>726028264
They can act on their own companies. That's all they need to do.
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>>726021868
How does this work for memeshit like Neptunia where half of the script is Japanese memes and references that nobody outside of Japan would understand?
I don't think localizers should be able to do whatever they want with scripts (like the two assassins from FE Fates having their bonds turned into "..."), but some things just don't translate 1:1 across difference audiences.
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Japanese media: At the pulse of human innovation, 20 years into the future

Japanese government: Infantile grappling of social issues resolved by the rest of the world at the turn of the 18th century
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>>726028464
>How does this work for memeshit like Neptunia where half of the script is Japanese memes and references that nobody outside of Japan would understand
Just translate them faithfully, do you think the people who play neptunia don't know those references or cant look them up?
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>>726028619
/v/ has taught me that half of the people who play Neptunia use the dub so yes
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>>726028464
>>726028157
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>>726021868
/v/eddit bros????????
Our hekin' valid translations?
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>>726021868
Where has everyone been getting the idea that this affects localization at all? The article says nothing of the sort. It sounds like it's just related to some sort of government subsidy program, saying that they won't interfere with the content of works that are part of this program. There's no mention anywhere of what a private company can and can't do with their own work.

I'd love to see less stupidity in localization but this seems entirely unrelated.

Article link since OP didn't link it for some reason: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/no-interference-in-creative-works-japanese-government-proposes-new-policy-for-anime-and-game-expansion-in-the-west/
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>>726028039
Why are you playing apslop if you're not at least a little bit interested in their culture? And if you are interested why are you against other people getting to know more about it?
The solution could be to add a TL note, a small compendium if there's something really obscure or just say fuck it and leave it to the player themselves to look it up either way the player will have learnt something new about a different culture.
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Does that mean we get incest mangas back?
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Japanese copyright law already allows the creator final say whether a derivative work can exist or if it demeans the original. That's why live action is so rare. But games are created by soulless corporations. They give 0 fucks outside getting as much money as possible.
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>>726027972
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>>726021868
it's irrelevant because they are already making the games gay and lame at the source
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>>726021868
>nnooo you're infringing on my freedom of speech on changing content whole cloth into propaganda
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>>726021868
>right wing gets back in charge of Japan
>lowering immigration
>bringing back creativity and ending censorship

No wonder leftists are seething
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>>726027972
That was before trannies and bootlickers started pushing woke shit on to anime though
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>>726029603
My man, you watched a completely different show than the one aired in Japan.
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>>726029403
Nintendo and Sony are infringing on artists' freedom of speech by threatening to block games from the market unless they meet their ridiculous censorship demands for "brand image".
If your response to this is the typical "b-but they're a private company they can fuck over who they want" after VISA/Mastercard showed the consequences of such a thing, you're NGMI.
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>>726021868
That's not what this article says at all and everyone acting like it does is a retarded baboon
ALL this proposal says is that the Japanese government will not interfere in creative works, they don't give a shit if anyone else does

>>726028796
I swear to god it's starting to piss me off how much this article has spread around with 90% of the people talking about it have no clue what it says.
It feels like a case of people want their interoperation to be true so they just invent some head canon of what the article says instead of bothering to read it.
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>>726029706
That's not what infringing on freedom of speech means retard. As a business they have no obligation to sell things that they dont want to. That doesnt mean your rights are being trampled on, you can still sell your porn elsewhere
>b-but I should have access to whatever market I want b-because I just should ok??
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>>726030242
There is no worse understood understood concept among the terminally online right than free speech
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>>726030242
>That's not what infringing on freedom of speech means retard
It functionally is when there are no other viable storefronts that aren't doing the same thing (and there are only four viable storefronts. Yes, video game distribution is THAT centralized).
I have no idea how anyone can still have this mindset after seeing what damage credit card companies get away with first hand. Nintendo isn't going to fucking die if they take some edgy otaku games and neither is Sony. Take the corporate cock out of your mouth for one second, will you?
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>>726029689
And my post is still correct and the dub is still superior
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>>726030809
>I'm a retarded American and need everything explained to me twenty times over
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>>726021868
Good. Get that western garbage out of your games.
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>>726030632
Credit card companies whacking pornographers is the only moral thing they've ever done.
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>>726031016
until they only allow gay/trans porn only
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>>726030880
You didn't explain anything seething tranny, you're just trying to cope
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>>726028039
>瀬戸際
>is about doing a "last stand"
no it's not
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>>726031185
>Americans can't into English
lol
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>>726022381
>localized flair
making everyone a snarky asshole?
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>>726031016
They're fucking multi-trillion dollar duopolies. Nothing they do is moral in any sense of the word and them having unchecked power is still bad.
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>>726031331
There are only two genders, you will never be a woman and Japan is now stopping woke trannies from ruining games
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>reddit spacing nigger is a lying faggot spreading misinformation to farm screencaps for his discord
many such cases
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>>726021868
we are so back
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>>726027603
There's literally nothing wrong with translating oni as demon in this context. Take your meds.
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>>726027296
You mean The Eotena Onslaught?
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>>726021868
Regulations always have unintended consequences. This will likely backfire horribly for them and lead to a lot less works being adapted just because of the risk inherent in the regulation. I don't like activist translators either but this is not a good way of getting rid of them as businesses always have the choice to just not do the work at all.
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> thread full of seething trannyslators
Hehe.
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>>726033607
If adapting a work faithfully is so beyond them that they would rather go out of business, let them fall.
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>>726021868
Redditsawman
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>>726021868
Entire era of "Kekaku means plan" ass translations and you're cheering it on.
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>>726028464
I find this type of reasoning quite disturbing. The assumption that effectively engaging with a piece of art should require no effort from the reader is what leads to lazy and inaccurate products, since the only way to truly solve this problem is to create a parallel piece of media detached from the context and ideas of the original. Art is bound to the contextual idiosyncrasies and specific characteristics of a culture; if any translation treats these elements as obstacles to avoid rather than opportunities for deeper learning and research, then the project is doomed to fail from the very beginning.
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>>726022381
I liked Speed Racer and Gigantor so you can eat shit trannylator.
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>>726025986
*Californians
Zoomers forget that the bulk of millennials were fighting against feminist commiefornian faggotry from that shithole state. Day of San Andreas will be a blessing.
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>>726028464
>How does this work for memeshit like Neptunia where half of the script is Japanese memes and references that nobody outside of Japan would understand?
Anon...When you were playing Neptunia and the characters starting speaking in baseball. That wasn't an obscure japanese meme.
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>>726033745
Square Enix's recent actions has the whole industry on red alert let me tell you
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>>726028464
I think you are taking bs excuses to rewrite things too seriously.
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>>726033987
Kill yourself, localizer
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Localization shouldn't even exist any more. It might have been necessary when the importer took an actual risk in bringing foreign product halfway across the world and trying to ssell it but now we live in globohomo world where everyone knows what a japan is. There's no need to localize onigiri as hotdogs any more and the localizers are just abusing their role at this point. Power Rangers gets away with it because they actually bought the rights so they could dow whatever but most localization projicts never PAID for any such right. Not even going to get into how A lot of Japanese products got jewed back in the day where they sold off the rights for cheap just so that they wouldn't have to deal with worldwide distribution back when it was a hassle to sell movies and books worldwide. That's part of why Japs hate piracy so much. Because of how popular Japanese anime products are yet so much money never reaches to Japan
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>>726031185
He did. What you got with the American dub is a butchered version of what the original conceived.
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Total Localizer Death.

Your days are up, freaks.
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>>726023760
>Japanese laws restricting that not us
You're a disingenuous faggot. There's not a single law that prevents pantyshots.
>Us just stops it with payment processors
US payment processors fucked dlsite and forced them to censor various things. Again, you're a disingenuous fucking faggot.
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I haven’t seen /v/ revel in completely misunderstanding a government announcement since that executive order on debanking.
>Smart people don't like me!
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that's nice but a bit redundant as ai is just going that job instead of parasitic translators
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>>726036137
That's still a significant improvement.
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>>726036018
The situation is just so dire that people are hoping and praying that any significant actor will do SOMETHING to salvage it.
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>a "proposal" from some literalwho ministry
so it's fucking nothing, then
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>>726022102
One step at a time
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>>726021868
i kneel
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>>726029706
>Nintendo and Sony
You forgot Valve.
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>>726036219
Well if you're gonna be so retarded about it that you cannot read articles properly, maybe you just wrong and not worth catering to in the first place.
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>>726021868
>It is still unclear if the law will apply retroactively or only to new games going forward
there is no chance it will be retroactive, if it goes though they will try to sell new editions of the super popular games like Phoenix Wright and Fire Emblem but with more faithful translations
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>>726021868
Don't forget to thank her for her service.
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>>726021868
what do translators, mods, and hr department hires all in common? people in these positions seem to have a higher predisposition to abusing whatever power they have and trying to enforce their specific views and values as opposed to the original work, website rules, forum/message board rules, etc?
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>>726037325
for HR it's just power tripping, in the case of lolcalizers it's another form of power tripping because they can't cut it out as writers so they need to "fix" whatever the author made.
In some cases it's agenda pushing but it's mostly the need to prove to ....someone in their head that they'd make a better writer than the author.
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>>726034602
One Japanese thing that westerners might not get is the souvenir/local specialty thing. In Japan there is an expectation that if you travel somewhere you bring back something for your workplace(you can do it for family and friends too). And there are Items that are for that purpose. Every place in Japan has some local specialty, that's unique to them and just them, that you buy and you share with with your co-workers(Not everyone actually does this though). It's funny because people in Japan take it for granted. So if you come from bumfuck nowhere in Nebraska they might ask about your お土産. And the best you can come with is "cows". So when you see お土産 it's usually a reference to that. It's just souvenir in the translation. They're not coming up with an insane localization for お土産.
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>>726027296
In spanish Demon Slayer was translated into "Guardianes de la noche" which means Guardians of the night.
I feel it sounds cooler than Demon Slayers imo
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>>726037912
Sounds like something out of 80's era anime, I like it.
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>>726027296
The Blade that kills Demons?
The Demon Killing Blade?
You can change kill with slay if you want. Still would be better than demon slayer.
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At that point you can call it Messer de la Diablo and it'd be the same accuracy as whatever the fuck this is >>726037912
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>The Blade that kills Demons?
>The Demon Killing Blade?
A blade that slays oni you say....
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>>726033828
Most companies are into many areas and can just pivot away from areas that are made problematic due to regulation. Anime may be an area where this has not fully happened yet. I don't know who owns crunchyroll if anyone, but if it s a megacorp they could shutter it and not care if its like only 6% of their business
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>What! you made a character use contractions rather than make them talk like a soulless robot!??
>The government says you're not allowed to do that!!!!!
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>female UN wants Japan to censor manga
>Nah we're not going to do that also you're retarded
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>>726037635
However when they saw 薬草 they knew it was a reference to ハーブ from BIOHAZARD and took their shot. They made sure to specify green and red herbs because if simply translated it as "herbs" because you might miss the reference.
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>>726027015
well, there are a number of jokes that don't translate due to kanji wordplay, but japan would probably be fine with something being worked out for that.
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>>726023542
>incredibly rare
>not a problem in 2025
Ahahahahahahhaahaha you are so deluded bro I can't.
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>>726038835
Sony isn't going to drop Crunchyroll just because they can't insert Gamergate references in their anime any more. If they do, some other company that is willing to translate faithfully will just take over the market space they leave. And most relevant companies like Capcom and Nintendo cannot afford to drop it because games are the majority of their revenue. They WILL be forced to comply.
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>>726037635
It's not unique to them. Every state has its own speciality items and dishes that it's known for. Souvenir buying might be more commonplace in Japan, but it's a concept understood all over the world.
You're trying to make it sound more complex than it is so that you can justify changes made to the source material.
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>>726033607
The loocalizer cliques and trannylations are so thoroughly embedded in the industry at this point that something like this is basically the only way to get rid of them. As long as they exist, they WILL tell the Japanese companies that they are needed to reach the "wider audience" and the Japanese companies will fall for it every time. It's been going on for over three decades. If literally making it illegal to hire them is what it takes, I'm all for it.
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>>726021868
I agree with japan on this, NO ONE has the right to change what they say. I don't want to look at a rice ball and be told it's a fucking donut
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>>726038483
>>726039017
Seething
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>>726040617
Dragami is making a point of hiring a faithful translator for LoveR Kiss Endless Memories. Their reward for doing so? Shit on by the loocalizer cliques and blocked out of major markets. Going scorched earth on these people is the only way for the industry to heal. They MUST be removed surgically like the parasites they are.
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Good, everybody wants japanese games to be japanese
Why the fuck would I buy a japanese game for californian virtues and values? It's like going to italy and eating mcdonalds or panda express
The only people opposed to this are propagandists, so the usual suspects
>trannylators already running damage control in the thread
>ackshually you don't want a word for word translation you just dont okay you fucking chuds???
Yes we do, that how anime fan subbers did it for years and anime was better back then
>Nobody liked translator notes explaining the translation!
Everybody loved translator notes
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>>726022381
That would be a far better result than what we have now, which are "localizations" that completely remove the context from dialogue and replaces it with completely random shit.

How many times do we need games and anime that have lines replaced with political messages that weren't there in the original? Dragon Maid, Prison School, and The Dangers in my Heart are the anime that stick out in my mind the most, that have had normal dialogue replaced with outright political/feminist propaganda.

For Japanese videogames, egregious changes are the norm. There's no sense in listing any out by name, because unlike anime where it's a 50/50 chance you've got nonsensical dialogue changes (for subs), basically every single release has some form of it, whether it's to make the content more "tame" for western audiences, ideological reasons from the hack localizers, or otherwise. Enough is enough. Dry translations are infinitely better than whatever bullshit some onions nepo-hire fag decides is a better replacement for something an actually qualified writer wrote in Japanese.
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>>726041117
this. people want a faithful translation, which fansubbers of old provided while trannylator companies do not. this does not mean it has to follow the source material word for word, but it has to convey what the original language intends, which again trannylators do not.
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>>726022183
>but who's to say what is and isn't a faithful TL?
I dont know if you've ever been to a courtroom but its not exactly uncommon to have lawyers arguing with other lawyers about the definition of words until a presiding judge decides one side is correct. This problem you present is one that already has a solution.
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>>726041451
>>726041117
You mean localizers?
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>>726022381
An entire generation of westerners universally loved speed racer to the point that it became enshrined as part of that eras pop culture. Shows like sailor moon and death note and boku no hero academia wish they could be speed racer.
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>>726041759
Also got one of the few decent western versions
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>>726034489
The majority of millenials here in 4chan maybe, but we have always been a counterculture within our own generation. The overwhelming majority of millenials are casual liberal-socialists who use facebook instagram and whatsapp, and the next largest population are the digg->tumblr->reddit->twitter 'communist'-corporatist-tankie pipeline.
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>>726041691
Playing word games doesn't work anymore faggot, you call people nazis for supporting israel
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>>726042275
Lmfao I'm not your twitter boogeyman
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>>726021868
Don't be naive. Expect nothing.
Globohomo is more powerful than the government of Japan.
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>>726034489
It's even stranger that zoomcucks keep crawling to a millennial site then blame us for what redditniggers and normalfags have done.
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>>726040865
These people aren't human
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>>726040236
>Every state has its own speciality items and dishes
Yeah states will have region stuff, but Japan has that shit down to people's hometowns. It's why I said bumfuck nowhere in Nebraska not just Nebraska.
>you can justify changes made to the source material.
I mean like arguably お土産 becoming souvenir is itself a change to the source material for the reasons I stated before. I didn't make a suggestion for how to localize just pointed out the cultural thing that's not really a thing in the U.S.
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>>726042328
Put the fries in the bag trannylator
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>>726042740
>Redditfags
>Normalfags
True but it was Gen-x that proliferated a lot of shit that is hated in vidya during that time. Anita Sarkeesian is Gen-X not millennial.
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>>726040865
>dating high schoolers is ok with me but middle school is too far!
Wow dude keep championing arbitrary goalposts when normalfags are moving towards being with any woman not being post grad basically rape
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>>726042892
Not a trannylator either
two strikes little autistic anon



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