>if you try to ditch Mackenzie and explore on your own the game forces you to go back>If he gets hurt the game prompts you to revive him with your psychic powers>If you fail to do so you get a GAME OVER>it also says "Federation Trooper" and not "Myles" meaning this shit is going to happen with the other 5 Troopers. Majority of the game is going to be an escort missionWhat the fuck was Retro Studios THINKING!?
I...what???....Even Other M didn't force you to escort the retards on the Bottle Ship.
I can already tell that Prime 4 is going to suck.
That'll be $59.99 plus tax.
>>726027998You gonna run with that for the next decade, huh?
Japanese website has a lot of new info. It sounds good but here's also some info about the troopers you meet>MacKenzie: Mechanic and technician who specializes in repairing and upgrading equipment. He has a timid personality and doesn’t do much, if any, frontline fighting (Google Translate).>Tokabi: A bounty hunter who enlisted in the Galactic Federation for a more stable life. He carries a talisman in the shape of a tiger and believes the charm has allowed him to survive numerous encounters (Google Translate).>Duke: A veteran who has fought in several battles against the Space Pirates. He has a stubborn personality that leads to conflict with his superiors, but also has a sincere and compassionate attitude that makes him a reliable presence on the battlefield (Google Translate).>Armstrong: A Private First Class of the Galactic Federation Army. She has extensive knowledge on vehicle diagnostics and operation. She has a very strong affection towards Samus (Google Translate).>VUE-995: A Galactic Federation android. It can pilot fighter jets, armored vehicles, and combat mechs on behalf of humans. It is not programmed with emotions, but has the ability to produce “pseudo-emotions” in specific scenarios (Google Translate).I will not lie, considering modern culture and the previous writer of the game, I am VERY worried about Armstrong. I hope it is a fangirl thing and nothing more. At least Myles is the only quip NPC. I like that there's an android too
>>726028804Agh I forgot to post the source, my badhttps://omegametroid.com/new-metroid-prime-4-beyond-details-revealed-on-the-games-japanese-website-spoiler-warning/
>>726028392Yeah....Shame because every part outside of the NPCs and desert looks greatThey gave us Prime 4 and took a shit in the middle of it and said "Bon Appetit!"
>>726028804Prime 2 had a similar thing, a dead Federation soldier was a fangirl of Samus. Unfortunately you are right that it is the Current Year so hopefully these retards don't too far with it and try to sneak shit in and Nintendo okay'd it.
>>726028804>I am VERY worried about ArmstrongIt's 2025, so she almost certainly just exists to be a love interest for Samus and have her come out as gay. Not only will it reinforce leftist retardation that any woman that ever presents as non-femme or does anything masculine is gay/trans, it'll be a great way to epicly own the chuddies who think Samus is their het waifu.
>>726030890Samus is feminine as shit though? She wears Eye Makeup all throughout Dread.
>>726031049Her character gimmick is that people think she's a man until her armor comes off.
>>726028392you couldnt tell at the purple motorbike badly animated in the open world?METROID PRIME 4 IS THE BANANZA OF METROIDSSCREENCAP THIS
>>7260310491. Fandom still persists in making Samus extremely masculine due to headcanon and stupid utterances from English strategy guides. Hell this mentality has wormed it's way into official material by making Samus slightly more muscular in Super Smash Bros. ultimate and Dread, since apparently Samus can't be feminine and has to fall into REALISM2. This is Prime we are talking about here. Samus is going to look realistic and ugly as hell. She won't look that feminine, just like how she looked in Metroid Prime Remastered.
LMAO. Dead on arrival. They managed to out-fuck-up Dread.
>>726031529At that point, I had a suspicion. Now, I know.
>>726028392We've known that for a long time, nothing they have shown looks great and every time they reveal more it gets worse. The worst part is these are just stupid decisions that could have easily been cool if the developers had any taste.you want open world, free roam segments?ok pilot her ship between broken, floating islandsYou want a sidekick to tutorialise or balance out the silent protag?ok let her discover a malfunctioning android that has been implanted with a corrupted human personality or a little alien creature who silently floats around shit you have to look at.you need an alien desert for some reason?make the sand black, or do fucking anything with it that feels alien.Why do these people consistently choose such shitty creative solutions?
>>726028392I started to get skeptical when they showed that atrocious, utterly boring desert. This really removes all doubt that the game will be bad.
>>726028392doesn't exactly require clairvoyance now does it
>>726027998I guess retro just suck nowthat's a shame, but keeping institutional competence up isn't a straightforwardly easy thing to do. the natural tendency towards suckage is difficult to resist
>>726028552Lines like this actually kills your game. Who thought this was a good idea?>>726031738Nothing wrong with dread besides the music.
>>726031981amazing how little /v/ seems to care about actual gameplay, if a few lines of dialogue are somehow enough to kill the rest of a game
>>726031529>BANANZA?
>>726031329Seeing Samus out of her suit at all was a mistake.
>scan something, encounter an obstacle or area you can't traverse yet>*radio static* followed by comments from McKenzie that nobody asked forlong range comms = get back seated from anywhere
>>726030890I'd be less mad about Samus being made gay if they at least made it a hot alien chick. Bonus points if femme fatale.As it is, it fucking blows. GET THESE FUCKING HUMANS OUT OF HERE, MAN
>>726032045>please ignore all the previews that specifically said how Myles doesn't do this at all after the escort part is done, it destroys my doomer narrative too much
>>726028552>Vagina game>Strange smell
Lmao. I might actually not play this.Fucking escort quests on top of everything.Nintendo needs to take Retro round back and shoot them like an old dog.
>>726032019The gameplay looks shit, its the same early console FPS garbage from 2001. As if we're all fucking grandmas who have never seen an analog stick before and the thought of aiming with it terrifies us.Metroid Prime is fucked, during the FPS modernisation era where we got away from golden eye 64 it was busy fucking with motion controls and now we've regressed back to gamecube/ps2 tier wonky shooters because the original team is gone and we're in the fanfic nostalgia wank cycle
>>726028804What's up with Samus being a lesbo magnet?
>>726032329there is literally gyro aiming (for both) and mouse controls for the Switch 2 version
>>726032190It astounds me that the last good thing Retro made was Tropical Freeze and we know for a fact they're not getting DK again since Bananza by Nintendo EPD seems to have done well (the producer of that game has mentioned wanting to do both 3D and 2D DK games in house going forward). What is even the point of Retro Studios anymore?
>>726032026You heard me. The bananza of metroid primes.
>>726032112maybe it's you who didn't watch the previews because the pic happens after the escort, when you beat the boss fight. and then it's back to the "hub" and that's the end of the demo
It's mad how these people never just like survey fans, and try to pin down what they like about a particular franchise.The appeal of Metroid is so obvious to people who actually like Metroid (which is not Retro in the post-Prime trilogy era, evidently).>which games did fans like? The ones where you're on your own discovering shit on a planet, and the ones with strong horror themes.>which games did fans not like? The ones with too much dialogue, or too light of a tonePeople know this shit. C'mon.
>>726032332>What's up with the tall handsome robot autist thing attracting women>What's up with the tall gorgeous blonde idol woman attracting fangirl idolizing her How Samus dodges clam slams is more mysterious than How Ridley keeps coming back from utter annihilation
>>726032329Prime isn't an fps nor is it about quick precision shooting. If you actually watch the new gameplay videos it does look very good outside of Myles
>>726032462But that would make it the best 3D Metroid game(it'll be the worst). Like how Bananza is the best 3D DK game.
Everyone keeps harping on Retro and I agree, the writers need to be taken out back and shot, but who okay’d all of it? Most likely Tanabe. Because Tanabe is cancer to this series more and more now. Tanabe was behind Federation Force and I have no doubt he is behind this shit in Metroid prime 4. Nintendo needs to gag Tanabe once and for all.
>People mad about escort missions>RE4 is one of this board's favorite games?
>>726032726New game bad, old game good
>>726032726That’s about as bad as people who think Halo and Metroid are the same thing and they aren’t.
>>726032668>Tanabe is cancer to this seriesOh fuck off, snoy.
>>726032603Nintendo never listens to fan feedback until way after the fact. Look at MK World. Everyone fucking hates the intermissions but they proceeded to double down on them, and then only releasing a patch to make them very slightly less common months later, stubbornly refusing to acknowledge that people don't want them at all. It took a solid decade of complaints for them to drop region locking.
>>726032449yes, you can also emulate MP 2 with a mouse or stick the joycon up your ass and play it that way but that isnt what it was designed or balanced for. Their primary method of control is how it will be played by the vast majority of players. You are getting standard pad controls and mind numbing auto aim against slow, giant enemies with humungous glowing weak points. The combat will be just as shit as it was 25 years ago.Prime 3 is where they would have dumped auto aim had the wii not been about motion controls. Now they are too scared to touch the formula because none of these people worked on the originals.
>>726031738>>Got filtered by EMMI
>>726032668The only reason why Mercury Steam made a good game (Dread) was because Nintendo put its foot down and made them make it good. Their recent game blades of fire or whatever it was called looked bad.In other words, it's probably Nintendo's fault, not Retros.
>>726027998Forced outrage thread
>>726032726RE4 is a non-canon dogshit fanfic only liked by tourists who are filtered by the original tank controls and exploration themes of the original series.CODE VERONIA IS THE REAL RE4
>>726027998YOU WILL LIKE THE QUIPSYOU WILL LAUGH AT THE MILLENIAL WRITINGYOU WILL LISTEN TO THE FORCED DIALOGUE
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>>726032645If prime isnt about combat then remove the combat, no game should have shitty gameplay in it just for the sake of tradition. If it is partly about combat (which it is) then improve it beyond disabled 2001 era shit.
>>726032983PN03 has auto aim and is a hardcore arcadey game. Auto aim can work.
>>726033121But RE4 has tank controls.
>>726033052I don’t know whose fault it is but it better be made clear to Nintendo that once again, to stop trying to appeal mainstream normies at the cost of my favorite game series. I’m so sick of the stupid decisions that greenlit.
>>726032953No, you fuck off. Tanabe is out of touch with the franchises he has his hands in and it’s time for him to be muzzled.
>>726033147kekseething
>>726033164PN03 is also a mediocre game that is only remembered because ASS. I also never said auto aim couldn't become the foundation of an interesting, hardcore combat system, it hasn't. MP4 is the same early console shooter shit that is in every prime game, it is still made for people who think gamepads are alien devices.
>>726033147calm down son
>>726033349>No, you fuck off. Tanabe is out of touch with the franchises he has his hands in and it’s time for him to be muzzled.I'm looking forward to your meltdown when it ends up becoming the best-selling Metroid game ever made.
>>726033156I like the early primes a lot, but I agree. I kind of expected the combat to improve. Not stay exactly the same.What they should do with Prime's combat is adopt more of an immersive sim approach. Reward the player for creative problem solving, like setting fire to some organic matter to burn out bugs, or siccing a predator enemy against a weaker enemy with bait, and then tricking the larger enemy onto an unstable platform so it falls.Design the game as a series of rooms filled with things you can organically interact with, and see what happens.
>>726033610I’m not a Sony fan, I’m a diehard Metroid fan and this is not going to sell that well. Metroid never has traditionally. It had the potential and then it was squandered away with these stupid NPC fed troopers.
>>726033808>this is not going to sell that wellScreencapped. See in you 2 weeks, ACEric.
>>726027998you were warned
>>726034087NOO S-SHE QUIT ALREADY, WRITERS DONT DO ANYTHING, JAPAN IS BASED AND WOULD HAVE STOPPED IT
just like with monster hunter wilds, it'll simultaneously be the worst metroid game and the best selling.
>>726034014Even if it does sell okay, at what cost? Longtime Metroid fans aren’t buying it. This isn’t Metroid. You seem to forget how bad Other M was and that barely sold a million copies in the end.
>>726034259hoh?
>>726034262Wilds isn't the best selling monster hunter.
>some of the biggest complaints about Prime 3 was all the cutscenes and NPCs taking away some of what made Prime 1 and 2 feel special>Retro "Let's double down on that!"
>>726034375fastest selling then. by end of life it will be the best selling too.
>>726034308Funny how you snoys said the same thing about BoTW and Bananza only for them to become the most critically acclaimed game in their series. The Switch has been Nintendo's golden age and no amount of cubie seething will change that.
>>726027998Where's the fingerless gloves visor?
Everyone seems to agree there's a hidden time travel mechanic which begs the question of why they're still hiding it
>>726032112The previews end at this point. After Myles gets the comms back up you head to the desert
>>726027998>Metroid is hailed for its amazing atmosphere of being alone on a hostile alien planet>Yeah but what if we don't do ANY of that?If THIS got greenlit, then what did the initial version of Prime 4 look like that caused them to start over? Marvel quips everywhere?
>>726034453>by end of life it will be the best selling tooanon...wilds sold ten million in the first month and hasn't managed to sell a single million total in all the time since
>>726034628I hope details about the Bamco version gets leaked someday. It would be incredible to know what was so bad that made Nintendo go "No you're all fired."
>>726034453I don't think so, Wilds has no legs and has been selling very poorly. Even when the expansion releases I don't think it will recover. It might not even outsell Rise.
>SALES SALES SALES SALES SALEScan you fucking faggots get out of my Metroid thread?
>>726034851>t.
>It was the first joint mission I'd been a part of since becoming a freelance bounty hunter. Guess we can add Prime 4 to the list of games in the series that Other M made not canon
>>726032112the fact that it's in the game enough that previewers felt the need to mention it is alarming itself
It's amazing how much this game scares you faggots. You've cried wolf too many times. Everyone knows you have no intention of playing this game in the first place
>>726034726>inb4 it was actually the better game but Nintendo dropped it because it didn't ride the wave of BotW hype
>>726034851sales are relevant for the company and can dictate the future trajectory of the series.people are rightfully worried that if this ends up being the best selling Metroid then the series could forever be ruined.
>>726034726It really is curious, because Bamco and Nintendo share quite a friendly partnership, especially through Sakurai.I wouldn't be surprised to find that Bamco's version wasn't bad per se, but they couldn't adhere to a stricter timeline with their fingers in so many pies around that time and the eventual arrival of covid.
>>726031981>Nothing wrong with dread besides the music.And the emmi zonesAnd the non-existent exploration And the level design that highly relies on trams/teleporters with egregious load timesAnd the lack of cool new power ups/suits aside from flash shiftAnd the terrible story And the poor environmental artAnd the recycled content And the non-stop railroading
>>726035472I dropped Dread because I couldn't figure out where to go next and it was an EMMI area and I didn't feel like bugging out for an hour avoiding a stalking death machine while trying to figure it out
>>726035034Other M decanonizes every game before it on the timeline except maybe metroid 1
>>726035620>couldn't figure out where to go in dreadLolwut it's almost fusion/other M tier linear
>>726035065why didn't you just make it good?
>>726027998>What the fuck was Retro Studios THINKING!?They*clap*were*clap*thinking*clap*hollywood*clap*money
>>726034851>AAIEEEE PLEASE DON'T GO AGAINST MY DOOMERISM
Prime spinoff were never good.Metroid Refusion when?
>>726034425>Me when I liePrime 3 sold more than 2 btw
>>726028552>[MacKenzie]: Uhh Samus I think you need to the conveniently glowing bumps on the monster like RIGHT NOW
>>726034628>I've only played Prime 1
>>726035742unironically, if you deviate from the signposted path in Dread thinking it'd a truly non linear game, then you can get lost rather easily since there's actually one one path of progression at any time.
Yup, nintendo lost.Tendie cultists just need to take the L this time.
>>726036061A game selling well because it happens to be on a successful console, doesn't mean it's the fan favourite, or had any cultural staying power.What don't people get about this?
>>726035472>emmi zonesfair, but they're not really that different from mad dashes through hot rooms in the older games truthfully>non-existent explorationthat's false and you know it>trams/teleporterswe've had elevators since the series' inception>load timesthis is fair>lack of power ups aside from flash shifti think you're trying too hard to find complaints>terrible storythe story is serviceable, and you're playing for the gameplay anyways. "adam" being the fucking bird asshole was great.>poor environmental artdisagree>recycled contentyeah no>railroadingbuddy, you can break dread pretty damn hard
>>726036145You're trying very hard to liken this piece of flavour dialogue used to flesh out a relatively minor character, to what we're seeing in 4, and no one is buying it.Plus 3 is a little questionable to begin with. I only give it a pass on all of this stuff because it's the capstone of the Phazon trilogy, and it felt like an event game in that regard. We got to go to multiple planets, and meet different hunters, which was neat, but I don't expect that to be the norm for the franchise, going forward. Metroid at it's core is Samus on planet, wandering around, uncovering treasure, and fighting bugs.
The sad thing is that this may lead to Metroid Prime 4 becoming really successful and setting a new standard for the franchise because normies eat this stuff up.
>>726036907Its much more likely to kill the IP forever, this is exactly what happened to homeworld.
>>726036907>>726037053Nah, the cult will buy it and it will be seen as "flawed" but do "ok" and then we won't get another Prime game ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXEcnEkOfkg>people want you to think this is exactly the same as some Jar Jar Binks retard falling on his ass, and yapping all over your gameplay
>>726032332random fact. Samus Aran means scissors move in japanese
>>726037251Anon you know as well as I do they didn't play the games they just want to rage bait
>>726036145This image is posted to shit on Prime 3. It was not an example to follow, actually the complete opposite.
The real reason the upcoming Metroid game now has an annoying NPC sidekick telling you everything is the David Jaffe meltdown. Guy couldn't even work out where to go when it was clearly signposted in level design, so now the devs are adding GOW levels of handholding.
>>726037176yeah, thats exactly what i said, its going to kill prime forever. the core will buy it but wont like it and that lack of enthusiasm will stunt and already niche IP and ensure they never make another.
>>726028552Why did he call Samus stinky like that
>>726037556It's gonna sell ok though. You seemed to me liek you were predicting a flop. Nintendies don't let flops happen.
>>726031529>Bananza of MetroidsSo... The best Metroid?
>>726031529>METROID PRIME 4 IS THE BANANZA OF METROIDSCritically acclaimed, beloved by fans and commercially successful?
>>726027998Probably something stupid like "Metroid doesn't sell well, if we change it up I'm sure this game will sell millions!"
>/v/ know has to shit on RE4 to shit on MP4The things you fags do to shit on something, it's hilarous.
>>726037626It'll flop relative to their other series. Even if it sells 2 million its not a good return on investment when its one of their most expensive IP to make and they could have shat out a DK game that sells 3-4x the amount. If the core isn't happy with it then it serves literally no purpose, it doesnt even grant them hardcore market appeal.whether this game sells 1million or 3-4+ depends entirely on core audience reaction, if its shit then no new potential audience is going to want to try it.
>>726032726>/v/ is one person>if you like escort missions in one game you must like escort missions in all gamesAre you having a stroke or baiting for (You)s?
>>726036145at least you didn't need to revive these fuckers because they were actually evil or got corrupted or something, I can't really remember anymore besides that you had to scan them at the very beginning
>people saying "Prime 3 did it!" as a gotcha like Prime 3 hasn't been universally considered the worst one in the trilogy because it did shit like this
>>726027998ts look so ass fr unkie
>>726037626Prime remastered didn't get to 2 million last i checked. Dread just barely beat out the original prime 1 to become the best selling in the series at just over 3 mil. Other M didn't even get to 7 digits, Fed Force probably didn't get to 6. Nintendo games can absolutely sell bad and Metroid is the key example
>>726032332Always has been
I'm not buying this at launch anymore. Forcing a quipping redditor on the player is way worse than the desert bicycle from the previous trailer.
>>726039239Prime 3 is questionable, but still there's no comparison. Prime 3 is more akin to an actual Star Wars movies (one of the first three). The dialogue is mostly expositional, with just a little bit to get you invested in all of the Hunters as characters.There's no obnoxious Reddit character in there. Rundas comes across as a genuinely cool guy who you like, as well. He's level-headed and competent in combat, and he saves Samus from a pit, and then you feel a little bit sad when you have to kill him.
Real talk, if they made the Tutorial NPC annoying as fuck only for the first boss to eat him and never heard from said NPC again it would have made it actually funny. Instead said NPC keeps annoying you the entire game.
>>726039753This desu. After DD2 and MP4 I'm ready to join the jaded cynics club and never get interested for upcoming games.
I am going to wait for full reviews and minor spoilers before deciding to buy or ditch this game. Too many red flags anons.Kirby on the other hand looks fucking amazing.
>>726039924I don't want a 30 minute joke. I don't want a dedicated tutorial of any kind. All other Metroid games didn't need a dedicated tutorial.
>>726027998>escort NPC that can die and trigger a fail stateI thought Bioshock Infinite solved this problem?
>>726040002Honestly I could tolerate one section of some annoying escort mission character, but the reveal that he's gonna be on the comms the entire game broke the camels back for me.
>>726040109I know but all Nintendo games have a mandate for a 2 hour tutorial if the game is longer than 10 hours. Therefore the funniest way to do this is to have the Tutorial NPC be annoying as fuck and then said NPC is killed. I would have loved if we could kill him but Samus isn't someone to kill someone for being annoying so the best thing is for a giant fish like boss or monster to kill him.
Why are the feds a bunch of redditors in this when they were serious army dudes in 3?
>>726031529>METROID PRIME 4 IS THE BANANZA OF METROIDSYou mean it sells extremely well, gets perfect review scores, and pisses off Gamecube snoys? Sounds good to me.
>>726040581>Gamecube snoys
>>726040676What was wrong about his post?
>>726040204>reveal that he's gonna be on the comms the entire gameWhere was this revealed?
>>726040676Your point?
>>726040581>pisses off Gamecube snoys?... wat?
>>726041048There's this schizo who slaps snoy onto the end of everything. OoTsnoy, cubesnoy, switchsnoy, just for a few examples.
>>726041048Cubesnoys hated Bananza because it outsold Rare DK, just like how they'll seethe when this outsells the other Primes.
>>726041196You are mentally ill.
>>726041185>anyone who calls me out for my bullshit must be one personOkay, Eric.
>>726040109Prime 4 cost too much to make go not have shit like this in it. They probably expected to recoup more than they did with Remastered
>>726040676idk why you never ignore that schizo, he’s been full on meltdown mode ever since people online and on this site have been laughing at the quippy marvel sonyfag companion by calling any person who liked nintendo before the switch a gamecube snoy. The schizos been like this ever since most of /v/ trashed TOTK and it losing to BG3real metroid fans are sad about this shit. The schizo is just a zoomer who grew up with the switch and BOTW seething at every older nintendo game
YOU WILL ESCORT THE ANNOYING FRIENDS! NO GOING OFF THE BEATEN PATH
>>726041254it doesnt make sesne though. snoy means sony and OOT was on the n64 so not a sony game. where is the logic?
>>726028804Armstrong is Syluxtoxic yuri
>>726041257Where are the retarded Marvelesque quisps in other Nintendo games of this caliber, might I ask? Most of my experience with BotW was complete silence and I'm pretty sure that had a comparable budget. Hello?
>>726041313Snoys have been clinging to Gamecube and OoT for 8 years now ever since BoTW's success mindbroke them and contrarian OoTfags became snoys.
>Metroid fans seething over Prime 4's companion mechanics and escort missions and time travel story>Me, a Breakdown fan, excited to see a spiritual sequel to one of the best games ever made
>>726041340BotW was developed in Japan, definitely cheaper than MP4. Plus Zelda has a much higher baseline of sales than Metroid. Even if the Switch never existed BotW would have sold at least 6-7 million
>>726041269>most of /v/ trashed TOTK and it losing to BG3Oh fuck off. We never cared about ToTK "losing" a paid Sony shill award to slop. If anything, it just proves that Baulders Gate is garbage enough to be shilled while ToTK actually has a legacy.
>>726041253>cubesnoy makes 50 anti-MP4 seething threads every single day>gets called out>Y-YOU'RE THE MENTALLY ILL ONES
>>726027998What are the odds there is a meta reference to how annoying and intrusive Navi was?
>>726041340Also BotW did have voice acting for the first time ever in Zelda and it's extremely cringe in a Japanese way, Prime is cringe in an American way
>>726041257>it needed to be ruined for mass appeal to break evenAnimals like you don't deserve a good game nor a financially successful one. Metroid is turning 40 next year and has done perfectly fine without pandering to the most braindead of normalfags. I hope this game crashes and burns.
>>726027998Git gud
>>726041794>without pandering to the most braindead of normalfags.Funny, because the series was essentially dead before Dread. If anything, MP4 is going to save it with high sales. Feel free to jeep seething though, your anger has been fueling the Switch's success for 8 years now.
>>726032019>amazing how little /v/ seems to care about actual gameplayBecause /v/ doesn't play video games.
>>726028392The game could be the same as Prime 1 and you retards would say it was shit.
>>726041592>actually has a legacyI actually go on social media unlike /v/ and that game was forgotten a month after the LOL SO RANDOM KOROK ABUSE shit. I still see stuff from elden ring, BG3, expedition 33 and silksong to this very day. Meanwhile the only thing i see from TOTK online is how shit it is. Even the biggest zelda channel on youtube rated it the lowest 3D zeldait has no legacy, only metacritic reviews but apparently journalists dont count cause of the game awards according to you so it has nothing. Compared to how huge BOTW was in 2017, TOTK killed all interest in the series. Nobody even cares about the new hyrule warriors cause its connected to the shitty TOTK lore and storyElden Ring took its legacy
>>726041946I'd rather have a series that is dead than a series that's alive in name alone. I am aware that if all you care about is sales threads this might seem like a foreign concept to you.
>>726042020>Elden Ring took its legacyDelusional Fromsnoy.
>>726042053>sales don't matterI'm looking forward to your snoy meltdown in the next Famitsu thread.
>Non-Binary Gate 3
>>726040109The Frigate in Prime 1 was literally a dedicated tutorial.
>>726042146I don't play sales.
>>726036741>that's false and you know itNo, this is an issue tied with the railroading. The "exploration" amounts to hidden destructable blocks thats been done since super except it's done worse here >we've had elevators since the series inception Not reliant on them to this degree and they didnt have 40 second load times associated with them. Closest is prime 3 on wii's load times but those are less frequent than dread>i think you're trying too hard to find complaints Upgrades are a big part of metroid and the other 2 new abilities (spin boost/cross bomb) are extreme filler that get replaced almost immediately. STILL NO NEW FUNCTIONAL SUITS DESPITE 30 YEARS OF 2D METROID SINCE SUPER>the story is serviceable, and you're playing for the gameplay anyways. "adam" being the fucking bird asshole was great. Game is filled with huge plot inconsistencies/retcons but whatever you're right on story not mattering>yeah no Rehashed aurora unit/X chozo battles. >buddy, you can break dread pretty damn hardThe intended sequence breaks are all heavily limited because the devs tied crucial upgrades to the emmis. The speed boost clipping can be used to skip large portions though, at the cost of skipping combat/bosses (best aspect of dread)
>>726042230I never got past the first forcefield because the game didn't have a companion on the radio telling me to shoot the red bits. Luckily my favorite letsplayer did a playthrough of it because the game seems awfully quiet most of the time and that gives me panic attacks.
>>726042326considering how fast they ditched MKW and DK bananza here after a week, sales are the only thing they have left
>>726042449God of War bro...
>>726041665>you thought you had a point? heh, sorry pal, I quoted you and added a stammer, making me the victor.
>>726032726you can literally tell ashley to hide in the trash while you play the actual game. also the "wait. follow me" button is such a simple and useful mechanic that makes the other sections bearable. you can even use her to bait out attacks like this.
>>726041770If the other NPCs tell him to shut up, I'd believe it
>>7260417702020s american writers aren't that self-aware.
>>726027998This is just fucking sad. Usually I couldn't give a shit if a modern game release turns out to be shit. I see games either go full woke or release as a buggy piece of shit and couldn't care less, there's always something else, but I loved this franchise and to see it go to the dogs is a real shame. Dread really disappointed me and this seems to be going back to the Other M days...
>>726027998I mean...I guess Prime 4 being raped makes my decision to not get a Switch 2 more justified.Yet seeing it end like this feels way fucking worse. At least we still have Dread and the 2D games.
>>726039751Cute
>>726027998oh my god
>>726028552>not ye wut de heh?
>>726031981If you think there was nothing wrong with Dread then you need to get your head checked.
>>726032112I don't want an escort section at all, I want a fuckin Metroid game. It isn't difficult and they still manage to fuck it up. Even RE4's escort parts are considered shit, nobody likes them
>>726041592So NOW game journos are paid sony shills? You sure had no problem jerking them off when BOTW won those awards.
escort TIME
>>726042020>Even the biggest zelda channel on youtube rated it the lowest 3D zeldaWho is this person?
>>726039753My exact thoughts. I was ready to buy it regardless because Prime 4. Then I saw the visuals and the bike and it got bumped down to 'I'll see what other people think and wait for real gameplay' now I don't even think I'll buy it at all realyy.
fuck you myles
Well, it doesn't look like a good game. But after the steam announcement I've bought it as I'm worried about nintendo
>>726043920I'm just waiting for the rom to leak
https://youtu.be/-PrMUAAOHJc
>>726028392I was obvious from the bisexual lighting on the box art.
>all these people online pretending to be fans yet they mention stuff or flaws that were only ever present in Prime 1 You fuckers aren't fooling anyone. You didn't play Echoes or Corruption. You bought the Switch remaster and called it a day.Probably didn't even beat that version either.
https://files.catbox.moe/e9h63w.pnghttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/Nyggers/
>>726045665??? Ok???
https://files.catbox.moe/sog52k.png
Hunters is not the worst Prime anymore
>>726034628Not enough quips. It didn't piss off enough chuds.
>>726047193Federation Force is a Metroid Prime game
>>726047617>Federation Force looks and plays more like a Prime game than 4 does
>>726034628>Marvel quips everywhere?Nah, they were properly doing it properly and then the suits came in to fuck it up because it would have been too appealing to the chuds
>>726027998Why are you playing a tranny game to begin with?
>>726044027>MacKenzie: You're not funnyTakes one to know one
So let me get this straight.This is an open world game with a bunch of big empty spaces.But you also have multiple escort missions that force you to tag along with reddit incarnate?So what is the allure of the gameplay here?
>>726037534>tendiecuck desperately trying to turn it into a "NU UH NU UH IT'S SNOYS FAULT"
>>726041947This
>>726048646>So what is the allure of the gameplay here?There are parts that kind of badly mimic a game from 2002
>>726031529so prime 4 is the best game of the series?awesome!
>>726028804Metroid is now a yuri franchise. How do i feel about this?
>>726048646you finish the main mission and then fuck off to do side-stuff if you want more just like all open world shit games
>>726050085i bet you think sequels to games are supposed to improve too
>>726028804They're all going to quip incessantly. Western writing has no idea how to do characters who don't quip incessantly.
>>726027998Don't worry, this 2025 AAAA $80 game that's been in development for 10 years only has 5 dungeons so you won't have to suffer for long
>>726033121RE4 has tank controls. Code Veronica is DOGSHIT
>>726050512both have the same controlsyou are just retarded
All hype is gone. This is a guaranteed fucking disaster.
>>726032112His escort part is over but there are four more marines that will be accompanying you.
>>726028804man this game is just a couple of weeks away and it already seems like a bit of a disappointment. im sure the core gameplay will be fun like always but all this shit sounds laaaaaaame as hell. what happened in those six years?
>game sells>This becomes the framework for every Metroid game from here on just like BotW did for Zelda>game flops >Nintendo takes it as people not being interested in the series as a whole anymore and shelves itEither way fuck you
>>726052248My HEROES!
It's honestly getting me so angry
>>726052248>shoots them both
Arlo sticking to his guns on this instead of blindly defending Nintendo is the most based he has ever been
>>7260522152D Metroid will remain though, so we're good
>>726037687>>726037752>>726040581>>726049680you didn't play it
>>726052215Dread is the 2nd best selling Metroid game so they would just go back to making side-scroller games.
I just hope we at least get more Science Team hijinks
>>726052248And then Samus says "I get first dibs" and gut punches him
>>726052501Man it's so fucking shit that you have to be forced to say "hear me out please this is just my opinion don't kill me please I bet the game as a whole is amazing please don't kill me I'm open to your opinions please please don't kill me" anytime you have to post a negative critic of anything on public online spaces
>can't explore because you have to babysit Quips McMarvelMovieWay to COMPLETELY MISS THE FUCKING POINT OF METROID
>>726052501He's right too, sticking this dumb quirky humor sidekick that never shuts up is the most in Metroid thing you could ever do for this series
>>726032045I hope Kenzie says this every time Samus activates a Ubisoft Tower
Here's what I don't get. The game already HAS a tutorial section. The opening where you help fend off the pirate attack. And we've seen how that opening teaches you everything you should know about the game's controls and basic mechanics. They even top it off with a boss fight.But...then it throws you into another tutorial but this time with a quippy sidekick who explains to you how to use missiles and SAVE STATIONS?????I'm purely looking at this from a game design standpoint and it makes no sense.
>>726052248@grok generate an additional panel where Samus turns around and shoots that faggot herself
>>726053678Sometime after Furukawa took over, Nintendo started dumbing down a LOT of their games that weren't already close to finished. Either in making the game itself simpler/easier, and/or being aggressive with the tutorialization. The contrast between the Great Plateau in BotW versus the Great Sky Island in TotK is an example that highlights this really well.
>>726053997It sucks too because Prime 3 was really bad early on with the handholding. And when you see Prime 4's opening you think "okay they learned their lesson!" only for all this shit to pop up and prove that no, they did not.
>>726030435Look at the big tough man scared of a lesbian lol
>>726052248
>>726052501>sticking to his guns>g-g-guys, I k-k-know its not popular and its not like I'm going to HATE it or anything!why say that? you may very well hate it because this team is making a lot of stupid decisions, they dont deserve the benefit of doubt.
>>726053997The target market is children. It is a cold business decision to get them when they are young and have them indoctrinate their own children when they grow up. Nintendo now only cares about maximising profit and that is the route they have chosen for their entire brand.
>>726054587WHY WON'T HE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>726032112>it gets better after 5 hours!Nevermind that the entire game was created and shaped by retards that thought this was a good addition to begin with. Holy Cope.
>>726054791The target audience of prime 1 and 2 were children. The children who played those games liked those games. I played those games a child and had no problems. Children aren't the issue here, it's retarded executives.
>>726055040The target audience of all Nintendo games is children. That doesn't excuse being shit.
>>726055040no, the target of prime was young teens. Somewhat similar to halo, maybe skewing a couple years younger. The target market now is literal children.This is the difference between shonen anime and bluey or pokemon. Both are for kids but an adult can watch a particularly good shonen and get something out of it, they cant watch pokemon because its for humans with no developed brain function. Nintendo is explicitly aiming younger with all their IP, they want kids under 10 to be playing their games, preferably with their parents.
>>726028552>UH OH, STINKY!
>>726052501>literal Nintendo shill tuber can't defend it What a fucking shitshow. What the fuck were they thinking?
lol, the game has fucking BOTW shrines
>>726054587>gets shot>"If you could stop, that'd be great"
>>726056409AW COME THE FUCK ON
>>726054587It'd be the funnies thing ever if he went hostile and downed you in two shots.
>>726056409No fucking way>Now you have to find desert shrines to get missle and energy expansions
>>726052215your own fault for supporting change of genre on the same franchise
>it's literally the worst parts of MP3 haphazardly stapled to BotWWhat a fucking embarrassment.
>>726056409You WILL enjoy the time-wasti -- I mean, map exploration, and you will like it while beign quipped at!
Why the FUCK are fucking Spaniards the only people who even remotely understand what the series is about anymore?
>>726028552>Metroid got Joss Whedon'dkek
Ah yes, when I think of the Metroid franchise I think of escort missions and many, many zany NPCs each with their own vibrant bay area personality to keep the atmosphere of the game lively.
Super was the last good Metroid and anyone saying otherwise is just coping.
>>726028552>no snarky "Charming..." response from SamusI'm so glad they at least kept her silent
>>726028552Two stinky dinky!!
Not sure why anyone is surprised. Prime 3 was the other side of the same coin. Instead of a whiny faggot, it was generic space marines and a bunch of Samus' buddies we'd never heard of or seen before but were still expected to give a shit about. Either way, it's taking a shit on the franchise's signature sense of isolation.
>>726027998
Are there any good Trilogy romhacks? Bonus points if they work with Primehack. I feel like if I play Prime 4 what last bit of hope in my soul is gonna be crushed.
>hey Samus, I've heard you like guns, mine is the biggest
>>726056409I can imagine the staff at Retro were like "What the FUCK is a Metroid??" when taking a break from snorting coke. Then they just decided to copy BotW with some marvel flare.
>>726057697At least with MP3 it was understandable since it came out in the era of peak Halo and they were insecure over their own position in the game industry. This shit is coming out of nowhere, there was absolutely no pressure to make prime this gay.
>H-HE'S JUST THE TUTORIALwhat now, faggots?
>>726032019Have you seen the actual gameplay? Eat your own words for once
>>726058036>This shit is coming out of nowhere, there was absolutely no pressure to make prime this gay.You haven't been (((paying attention))).
>>726058036>This shit is coming out of nowhereGames like Outer Worlds 2 and Borderlands 4, both sci-fi FPS games, just came out with this exact slop. It's an actual cancer emanating from American game developers.
Hopefully in ten years we'll be able to emulate this and there will be a "Remove Mackenzie" mod.
>>726056409>another open world game that will run at a silky smooth 20 fps
>>726027998Thought this was a screen shot from skyrim, that first fucking dungeon or whatever you go to.Shit is bleak bros.
>>726057697corruption wasn’t even a fraction as shitty as this, all NPC interaction was spread across like three isolated setpieces over the course of ~10 hours and they never backseated you like you’re a retard
>>726058520What is that picture from?
>>726058520it will run at 60 and 120 fpsthe drawback? well the game is 90% desert lmao
>>726032726RE4's escort had ballistic missilesMetroid has a basedjak marvel fan
>>726027998cant wait for the porn this is gonna spawn
>>726027998>"I JUST REVIVED A FEDERATION TROOPER WITH MY FREAKING MIND"
>>726058440That would've been like expecting a "remove NPCs" mod from Prime 3. They're an intrinsic part of the game, you can't just remove them. Unfortunately.
>>726043310underrated
>>726028552Metroid fans deserve this
>>726027998>but only 20 mins, it’s only 20 mins!
>>726058264Of course i know culturally where it comes from but I'm saying there was no market pressure to do this. Neither prime nor retro or nintendo have many if any connections to modern American culture rot, for it to suddenly manifest is jarring.
>>726048646Not open world (allegedly) but the monkey’s paw curled and imploded and instead it’s guardians of the galaxy with a mute main character who cannot escape having to babysit a squad of quipping redshirts.
>>726059716>Of course i know culturally where it comes from but I'm saying there was no market pressure to do thisThen you're retarded for thinking (((they))) are doing this due to "market pressure." And Nintendo has been steadily going Talmudic with their girlboss movies and removing Link as a protagonist.
S W E E T O RSTINKY
>>726059594no we don’t you fucking faggot
>>726058327I mean, borderlands 4 has the exactly same blue hair who fucked up homeworld 3 so that isn't surprising. Outer worlds is made by the new vegas guys, any American studio with a pedigree for writing is full of institutional rot, they are ground zero for everything wrong with American culture.This is why bioware is one of the worst offenders.
>>726059594>I SUFFERED WHY SHOULDN'T THEY Sorry to hear your favorite series got gaped but don't offload your frustrations onto others.
>>726056409Pinball is gonna be a better Metroid at this rate
You're all going to buy it day 1 anyway.
>>726060091>>726059925Your bitter response is justification enough. Die.
>>726060147Who hurt you, sweetie?
>>726060147you first, nigger.
>>726060128This isn’t Mario nigger. Nintendo fans play the big 3 and ignore everything else.
>you lived to see metroid become a yellow paint game full of whedonesque dialogue for retarded normalfags It was inevitable, but the pain is still excruciating. Marvel has done irreparable damage harm to the fabric of society.
>>726060306>>726060238>>726060227Jimmies are getting rustled
>>726060407Just say jews.
>>726060432>”hurr durr you deserve this thing you don’t like happening to you”>told to fuck off“HAHA WHY U MAD”We used to kill people like you for less.
>the troopers that need to open their mask every second snd unmask to show “it’s a real person!!!!” under the mask like a MCU movie where the actor has a written contract to show their face in a certain amount of scenes.
>>726060490Texas is full of Jews? News to me, schizo.
>>726060407That's also going mainstream for you, jewish shareholders and investors chasing the "modern audience" and raping another IP for profits until it is a dead husk before spreading further, like a disease.
>>726060561You won't do shit, faggot. Pipe down.
>>726060654It's the States, retard. Of course it's kike central.
You deserve this
>>726060718you pipe down retarded nigger
>>726027998Oh man, and this game got rebooted like 2 times with a new team before settling with Retro, and this is what Retro decided on? I don't know how to defend this, escort missions in general are fucking ass.
>>726057809Only randomizers, no level design editors as far as I'm aware
i'm going to buy it and enjoy it and you can't stop me lmao
>>726060407It’s okay. This will only kill the Prime subseries. Metroid 6 is being made by Mercury Steam and if it iterates on Dread the way Dread iterated on Samus Returns, it will be kino. Trust. Sucks for Primefags tho.
>>726058242Even Other M only had you meet up with the NPCs like 2 or 3 times. You were mostly on your own
>>726058578The Earthbound duck
>>726061017Mercury Stream has had some internal issues recently which might affect future game quality. They've made two "fine" games and that isn't enough for trust.https://shinesparkers.net/further-accusations-of-crunch-culture-at-mercurysteam-surface/
Metroid fans will buy it anyway and defend it viciously
>>726061439the exact opposite actually, metroidfags are the only tendies with anything resembling standards.
>>726037534This is bullshit, but you're probably right, with the GoW devs using DSP as a base for their audience when it comes to game design for their future games.
>>726059925>>726060091I can't think of a more deserving fanbase for this than the people that pretend metroid prime is a good game and bought switches for a sequel 8 years ago.
>>726061571yeah pressing X to doubt THAT one
>>726061665Retarded nigger opinion unironically.
>>726027998they've also designed the HUD so theres more than enough room for multiple ally health bars on screen at oncethere will tag along for more than just a character intro
>>726061439just like other m rightthis thread sure is filled with retards
>>726061820metroid fans bought other m and religiously defended it until their e-celeb masters said it was badthen they pretended they never liked it
they made this game to kill the series so gaijin wont bother them to make more of it. Japs only like the most distilled baby shit like Mario, so they did this to get rid of Samus forever.
>>726061439>>726061820What will actually happen is the five-digit number of Metroid fans who actually exist won’t buy it, but it will appeal to millions of retarded normalfaggots who will then pretend to be original Metroidfags.
>>726061257>muh crunchthis wasn't a thing until foids, faggots and troons entered the workforce in vidya en masse
>726061908I really hope none of you are stupid enough to fall for that
The main problem is not that he exists. Its the fact that he has to comment on your gameplay. If you could just turn their gameplay commentary off, I really wouldn't mind it half as much.
>>726062003The spanish are allergic to work as it is. This can only end in absolute catastrophy.
>And there is no option to mute these characters and remove dialog boxes
>>726062000This. Just like with Silent Hill f, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter etc etc
>>726028552What the fuck does that even mean?
I've started to consider that maybe the initial version that got cancelled was the true prime game and it got shitcanned not because it was bad, but because it was deemed completely unmarketable to the ~wider audience~
>>726062062You remind me of those gullible naive fools who doesn't question the inclusion of yellow paint, the whole point of adding that shit was to be retard-proof and be as accessible as possible, the yapping nerd is basically an accessibility feature for ADHD brainfried zoomertards, newfags and foids who never played vidya before and need constant handholding at the most basic shit, they are the target audience, not legacy players.
>>726062000Trips confirm. This is why gatekeeping is important. Pour one out for a fallen legend, Metroid is for retarded secondaries now.
>metroidfags wait almost 2 decades for a proper new prime game after the Other M disaster>4 ends up being worse than Other M
And these people will just accept it
>>726062000wisest anon ITT, this has all the right sauce to win over the capeshitter audience
>>726062428>4 ends up being worse than Other MThat's looking highly unlikely. If the gameplay is even Prime 3 tier then not even Marvel Supreme will make it as bad as Other M. Previews are saying everything side from the dialog is good.
Metroidfags slurped up Dread, they will slurp up Prime4.
>>726062294Man, now I really wonder how was the first rendition of the game was going to be if they had to cancel it and bring in another team. Couldn't have been like this or worst could it?
>>726062587Dread was kino, you stupid fag.
You know what really fucking sucks? They could've shown off this shit last year or earlier this year or anything like thatNot TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE GAME COMES OUT 8 years and they intentionally edited the trailers to not show any of these guys in them, and suddenly when we're in the final stretch >Nintendo "Oh yeah uhhhhhhhh actually Prime 4 is a giant escort mission and one of the NPCs is reddit personified. Okay bye!"Fuck Nintendo and Fuck Retro for doing this. I guarantee the ONLY reason we're even finding out about this now, is because they knew it would be false marketing if they didn't tell us before the release.
>>726062437There's two types of cope right now. Angry doomposting and bartering. Your screenshot is the latter where they are hoping it's just a tutorial character (it isn't) and says nothing how they will handle the actual shock.
>>726062339I have no problem with adding guard rails for retards. Just add a toggle that lets me turn it off. It shouldn't even be difficult to implement
>>726062678and there it is
>>726062685Atleast ACfag got his wish, shame for everybody else though
>>726062294>original MP4 canceled for not meeting nintendo’s standards >beyond meets nintendo’s standards Maybe Nintendo is dogshit actually
>>726062741>say verifiably stupid shit>told to fuck off>act like you are in some way validated What is your endgame anon?
>>726062859>Maybe Retro is dogshit actuallyftfywe dont see these dudes for how long with the good rep they did had; they then come back out of blue with a team of danger hairs. Retro is the one taking the L on this shit.
>>726028552Uh oh, stinky!
>>726028804>Armstrong Samus lezzing outBASED
>>726062437how is killing a character you 100% do not like and want gone supposed to raise the stakes?you could never hate sylux as a villain if he did you the huge favor of killing Mackenzie
This is going to be Metroid's BotW moment.
>>726062712>Just add a toggle that lets me turn it off. They wont, the same way they wont have ever add the option to turn off yellow paint. Get it through your thick skull, you aren't the target audience anymore, they know you'll buy regardless, they are chasing the "modern audience".
>>726027998>>it also says "Federation Trooper" and not "Myles" meaning this shit is going to happen with the other 5 Troopers. Majority of the game is going to be an escort mission
>>726028552>get nice little vista>UHHHHHHH SO THAT JUST HAPPENED. HECKRINO THAT LOOKS NICE. EWWW WHAT SMELLS
>>726031981Dread is like an action sidescroller wearing a Metroid skin. Both Hollow Knight games were more Metroid games than Dread
>>726063286I am so disappointed, the 1st trailer had me thinking you were going to tag team the game with Sylux, lo behold.
>>726057642Holy shit, someone remembers The Pest.
>>726028552>Marvel quippingWe're fucked, aren't we Primebros?
>>726031981Dread is a shitty claustrophobic 2D platformer and way too linear
>>726061817It's gonna be rule of 3's nintendo sloppa.1 in a straight line to establish it as a tutorial2 in a more complicated environment to introduce le twist4 at once to be an epic crescendorino just like mario.
>>726033121You're retarded, never talk about RE ever again
>>726060432>jimmies of saar's are getting of rustled!
>>726064427Oh you have no fucking idea
>>726045431really sad how often this is accurate
>>726033121RE4 literally has tank controls you moron
>>726064663You're really not helping your case by acting like a chimp.
>>726033147Calm down Ericboogeymanschizo
>>726056409I thought everyone knew about this before the McLovin shit, you could see it when she was riding the bike in that akira slide trailer
how will the mods fix the dialogue?
>>726062712no toggles! enjoy your new claptrap quipping fagbot!
>>726056409>The BOTWification of MetroidThanks, I fucking hate it. What the fuck were they thinking letting Retro greenlight this shit?
>>726062000And you're right
>>726062000it's Fire Emblem all over again
>>726056409>Hate how BotW handled shrines>They doubled down on it for TotK>And now they're bringing it over to Metroid PrimeI look back and I wonder to myself what caused Nintendo to become like thisIf people praised Skyward Sword, maybe we wouldn't have this?If the Wiiu didn't fail, maybe we wouldn't have this?If the third Paper Mario stayed an RPG, maybe we wouldn't have this?I just don't know
>>726064892We can act like one but you will always be one, forever with the smell of poo on your hands pajeetnon.
>>726062712Sorry anon, retards cant be trusted so you won't have the option. Welcome to modern gaming.
>>726065681they're always late to shitty tendencies, they started doing this when Ubisoft went completely downhill
>>726065681Skyward was a shitshow deserving of ire, from the retarded bird 'people' flashing w/their grandma tits to the 90% shitty dungeons to the crappy controls.
We lost
>>726066265>Etertaning>LEL WACKY GLASSES DUDE HYUK HYUK YEP YOU'RE WONDERING HOW I GOT HERE RIGHT?!?!? I'm legit about to cry tears of pure fucking rage. How did we get to this point? How can we remove these assholes from our vidya...
>>726061129Ohh!Thanks for the reply anon.
>>726066265Those trannies are fucking wild, they somehow hold the worst opinion on every single topic. They are so consistently wrong and off-putting you could attain mass appeal and success in every endeavour if you just did the opposite of everything they call for.
>>726032112All the previews complained extensively about him, to the point one reviewer looked into the options for a mute option, there wasn't one, then spent several minutes trying to kill him to get him to shut up.
>>726065164You can't fix the fundamentally flawed execution and having escort missions but I'm sure someone will whip up a "silence NPC backseating" patch eventually
>>726036145Rundas had enough cool moments before this along with staying quiet for most of the intro for this dialogue to not come off cringe in the context of the full game. MacKenzie is just if this cherry-picked line was a whole character.
Meh I dont care, another $60 saved.Back to playing og doom wads
Just turn off voices.
>>726027998>>if you try to ditch Mackenzie and explore on your own the game forces you to go back>>If he gets hurt the game prompts you to revive him with your psychic powers>>If you fail to do so you get a GAME OVER>>it also says "Federation Trooper" and not "Myles" meaning this shit is going to happen with the other 5 Troopers. Majority of the game is going to be an escort missionholy fucking BASED
>>726068359>Turn off the voices>Still have to escort him
Don't carestill buying Metroid Prime 4will enjoy the 10/10 gamekeep seething
>>726067403Did Rundas talk at all? All I remember is seeing him once in the elevator and then killing him like an hour later.
What if the character is written to be a cringe nerd and it isn't reflective of the entire fucking game? Just because one character is a heckin chungus redditor doesn't mean the entire game is fucking Borderlands, and it looks like the fact that he's an annoying faggot is played for comic relief.
>>726032726You can tell Ashley to fuck off and she will just stay put, you can even tell her to stay before entering some encounters and she won't be there during them at all. She also sticks directly to your back when she's following you and the game is clever about when it separates you. Don't disparage the only game that has ever done escort missions correctly.
>>726052537>2d metroid will remain Mercurysteam is on the verge of collapse after their last flop
>>726028581$90 actually
>>726070880He talked like 3 times, he was pretty....chill
>>726071861>buying a $120 gamewho can even afford a $150 switch 2 edition even
>>726071930$200 for a game is ridiculous
>>726066265good, the game is for kinosuers such as myself.
>>726036145Admittedly I thought this was a bit cheesy of Metroid to do even back then. But Rundas made up for it by being>Still genuiely pretty likable>being an alien>not even talking that much aside from this>being cool in killing Space Pirates>Saving you from Ridley>Him being the best boss fight in the game and dying laterHe was handled much better
>>726027998It's Metroid and Nintendo, you didn't actually think it was going to be good game design did you?
>>726052686no i think Dread is the best, it outpaced Prime 1. >>726056950best part of halo was getting the marines to clap back at you.>>726061086Also Metroid Other M had the good idea of having a "whodunit" horror scenario where each get's picked off one by one. A shame Other M wasted it by HORRIBLE execution, but I think it's an idea Metroid should try again later.
>>726048646>So what is the allure of the gameplay here?It's not about what the game can do for youIt's about what can you do for NintendoSo give them their money now
>>726032329>every FPS should play like modern COD shit with pointy/runny/shooty gameplayFuck off. We need diversity (the right kind) in this genre. It is absolutely fine that Metroid Prime has its own style of gameplay. Its not meant to be a standard Battlefield/COD shooter. The story/dialogue here is the issue.
>>726075553It's shit, nobody besides nostalgia addled millennials want to play an FPS where you push a button and it locks on. That isn't gameplay, its automation from an era where they didn't trust you to know how to use an analog stick.If they want to evolve it then do it, they dont, its still for casuals who are scared of dual stick aim, its not interesting or engaging in any way.
>>726027998fucking kek this is beyond parody. tendies are going to lap this shit up like usual and go to absolute war with any metroid fan that actually gives a fuck about the series.
The cancelled Namco version of Prime probably kicked serious amounts of ass compared to this.
>>726033147ok retardcaptcha: 420JP
>>726077319cant believe I'm actually disappointed they cancelled the outsourced prime game and gave it back to retro. Even if it was shit it probably would have been shit in an interesting way, rather than metroid prime 1 but with a thick layer of cringe and AAA slop design ontop.
>>726077319it was a bamco C team, let's not be crazy
>>726077319i wonder if they would have cancelled it if they knew how bad the retro version would turn out. probably decided they already sunk enough money and can't afford to scrap/make another version of prime 4 at this point.
>>726076945You zoomers are absolutely retarded in your delusions. The lack of a second analog stick had nothing to do with trust you fucking idiot. Its because devs were still trying to figure out 3D games even at that point. Sony lucked out early by including two sticks on the dual shock controller but Sega and Nintendo didn't fully realize 3D camera controls until later.
>>726028552jar jar binks?
>>726028552Macklunkey
>>726078538prime is a GameCube game, the pad had a second analog stick.You are just agreeing my point that the FPS design in prime is from the retarded n64 era where Nintendo had no idea how to approach 3d game design and automated aim. Prime 3 was an attempt to move away from that shit but the advancements were lost with motion controls. Now were are objectively in the era of Nintendo where they are so allergic to dual thumbstick design they invented gyro aim to help the 6 year olds and grandmas play their games.
Give em a chance guys Retro Studios is gonna cook! I'm a huge Prime fan and can't wait to play my first entry
>>726079375>pokemon icon>massive shit eater
>>726079201NTA, but Prime came out in 2002. Dualstick FPS on console didn't become a big thing until Halo CE. Yes it was a year after but you gotta remember how Nintendo acted back then, big ego and shit even if some guys at Retro played Halo and went like "oh wow this is amazing we should put this in Prime!" Nintendo could've veto'd it.
>>726079375the creative liberty to regurgitate a tired old trope for the 100th time
>>726043410>I don't want an escort section at all, I want a fuckin Metroid game.if you wanted one you'd ignore the ones that said "prime"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8pqREMESIk
>>726079527The devs were obviously aware of dual-analog controls, they didn't use them because Prime isn't an FPS game. It has tank controls where you have to stop to aim like in RE4, but with the addition of Zelda's Z-targeting and being able to side-dash while circle strafing. If you imagine the camera over the shoulder like in RE4 it might make more sense to you what the game actually is.
>>726079527yeah, that's my point. I was there, I played prime and halo at launch. It wasn't till prime 3 that retro fully acknowledged their old aiming system needed to evolve but they were doing waggle/ IR development by then.Had that version of retro went on to develop prime 4 right after they would have completely overhauled the shitty lock-on combat, that didn't happen and now we have fanboy devs who view prime 1 like a sacred text so we're stuck in n64 era game design hell forever.
>>726079784retro thought the original control scheme was so shit they ported the entire series to Wii and changed the aiming method. They wanted it to play more like a traditional FPS and one of the biggest complaints of MP3 was there was too much halo for babies shit in it.
This is actually worse than Other MHoly shit take me back to daddy issues Samus
>>726028392I was still optimistic after the reveal trailer despite it looking like a generic halo rip-offThen they released the shit with samus riding a motorcycle in a flat, empty desert area and i was starting to get concerned.Now with this new shit I'm wondering if I'll even bother getting it. The escort mission stuff is whatever, I think plebbitors meme a little too hard on escort missions ruining the game, but the fact that he's voiced and the dialogue feels straight out of some capeshit movie in the worst way possible has really killed any hype I might have had left.I'll probably watch some youtube clips after it come out to see if the game is irredeemable or not but this is definitely not a day one buy for me anymore. also I have a switch one and I'm sure they put zero effort into optimizing it for the older hardware now that switch 2 is out
>>726027998>What the fuck was Retro Studios THINKING!?Aliens™ 4kids version?
>>726079375To be fair I do still expect Metroid Prime 4 to be a "good game" in the grand scheme. It's just disappointing that it's been infected even more with this stuff and I expect to be a weaker Prime entry (unless other aspects really knock it out of the park)
>>726082718even ignoring the annoying NPCs, the rest of the game seems a bit too safe. Like none of the puzzles feel like they're trying to do anything innovative, the combat just seems simplistic, and traversal feels by-the-numbers. Like at most they'll just rehash the grappling hook and reskin it under something else.
>>726028552truly the worst timeline. as a retarded indie dev I'm better than this. I have to make my own metroid prime... meatdroid primal.
>the bike section is revealed >"UM IT'S NOT EVEN THAT BIG YOU'RE JUST GONNA USE IT TO TRAVEL LIKE FOR 5 MINUTES DEAL WITH IT!">preview videos confirm it is fucking gigantic and empty and a waste of time like we said >Fed troop NPCs are revealed>"UM IT'S NOT EVEN THAT BIG A DEAL HE'S ONLY WITH YOU FOR 20 MINUTES!">preview videos confirm he's with for damn near an hour or two and is in later parts of the story and has comms Why do the retards here keep doing this?This isn't our first fucking video game, we see red flags and game design that we've come to hate and know how it'll play it
>>726057642>>726064290
>>726083637Copium is a strong drug. People desperately want it to be good, after 18 years of waiting.
you are all just incels with no taste in writing
>>726028552Please tell me that this is an edit.
>>726083637My cope is that the other companions won't be that bad. I hope the tired black due is fine. I unironically liked Anthony Higgs so I hope he's on that caliber
>>726084513ICE'LL SLOW EM DOWN
>>726083637Part of the 100 million dollar budget of prime 4 was a massive viral marketing and damage control campaign.
>The gameplay looks like shi-AAACCKKK
>>726084513yes i'm sure the other npcs will be engaging, well-written and insightful
>>726028552holy fuck metroid got monkey paw'd so hard
>>726084735every new piece of information I find out about this game makes it worse.
>>726084641It really does look awfulMaybe if the environment wasn't a giant fucking bland desert I wouldn't hate on it as much
metroid survived dread it will survive this
>>726080283In other words it became more like Halo the less the Japanese tard-wrangled them? That makes a lot of sense.
Dread was alright you dumb troglodyte.
>>726084641>>726084898making it a desert was such a bad decisionThey likely did it for readability but man it just looks bad in preview showcases.
Metroid prime 1 will remain the pinnacle of the series forever. The atmosphere on the desolate alien ruins is absolutely top tier kino. I thought ameritards loved Marvel slop and "le boss epic" humor
>so...>win?
>>726084641they forgot that you can put cool alien rocks and structures in a space desert
>>726084735damn they really made Samus WNBA tall
>>726086518Echoes>Prime>Corruption>Hunters>Fed Force
>>726090176based
>>726090176BASED Prime 2 chad
I just realized there's gonna be another artifact hunting at the end in that big ass bland fucking desert uuuuugggghhhh
>>726062000Nah Awakening was just FE4 with modern graphics and anime tropes instead of retro ones, tolerable gameplay, and a more cowardly implantation of gen2 units. It still has the roots of FE embedded in its design. This is a complete fuckup of the spirit of Metroid to appeal to the Fortnite audience. It's gonna flop hard and that's why Nintendo went for a Galaxy movie direct instead of a Metroid one. It was so bad they had to make Sakurai do 2 Directs for Air Riders to fill up the space.
>>726085193Dread was a good game though
>>726028552Uhhhh is he behind Samus smelling her farts?
>>726059535Incorrect. You can fuck with triggers for events and condition requirements etc. and dummy things out so they don't appear at all. This is the case for NPCs and objects (Like that door where two of the NPCs had to help Samus open it) so you could feasibly remove everything. This would mean cutscenes could go too of course.
>>726091968>Metroid Prime 4 sequence breaks will be discovered not by speedrunners, but people trying to avoid millennial writing
They'll make it so you can't sequence break because the game will have an invisible impassable wall to the final area that only disappears when all of your NPC friends have been rescued and are with you
>>726092189>>726033132joss weedon is not and was never a millenial
>>726084641I refuse to believe that anyone who played Prime 1 thought "Do you know what would really improve this experience? If Samus rode a motorbike through a featureless desert to get between zones instead of stumbling upon then naturally. I hope they can fix this issue in future releases."
>>726092726And who follows his example?
>>726092949Other Gen Xers.
>>726042003Metroid Prime was always shit and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.
>>726092981Oh, so "millennial writing" does not describe any observed phenomenon. Good to know!
>>726093003Millennials just get stroppy about it because Gen X is doing it but they're getting blamed, but it's their own fault for overshadowing the latter and making them culturally irrelevant
post yfw we get porn of myles fucking samus
>>726042420What "new suits" do you want...?
Does anyone have that old wojak of Mario playing a Switch and crying because the battery ran out?
>>726093217Some faggot at Retro shoehorned him in hopes of seeing his self insert get his dick wet in r34.
>>726066265There is nothing from Alien in Prime (including 1 and 2). All enimies and bosses look like toys for little children.
>>726066265Yeah because the occasional (and earnt) joke that doesn't overstay its welcome is completely identical to a 24/7 stream of Claptrap
>>726093217too lateenter at your own risk https://litter.catbox.moe/d1l0amxzqkuxktpr.jpg
>>726094059WE MUST BE BETTER
I waited how many years for this, only for it to get ruined at the 11th hour?
>>726093217I for one welcome the r34 where I straighten both samus and armstrong with pov handholding missionary.
>>726090176Echoes still has my favorite level design. It always felt the most "non-linear" to me, including the Dark World.It does make a bad first impression though, Agon Wastes is a very boring first area aesthetically and it's color palette is too similar to the Temple Grounds.
>>726093217he's way too ugly for most to make porn of. I'm predicting most fanartists will ignore him
It's going to be a long 3 weeks.
>>726083637You don't know shit.
>>726027998It would have been extremely funny if they allowed you to continue with the game after their deaths but only get the bad ending. Then all the players online started posting their playthroughs and everyone was letting them die on purpose.
I was worried about the Nightreign DLC releasing on the same day as MP4 but this made me not care.
>>726027998So that's what happens when you leave a Japanese IP in the hands of an American developer.
>>726058242I think it's not because he's quippy or anything, it's just because he's an ugly fucker. If they kept everyone with their helmet on, it will never be a problem.
>>726094425Yuuuup
>>726064161>hoping an actualy good idea to happenYour fault. Should've lessen your expectation.
I have to wonder how bad the bamco version of this game was if this is what they replaced it with
>>726064821If he was a cute anime boy instead of an ugly goggle-eyed freak nobody would care.
Even when I didn't care for the games, I always liked that Nintendo games were mostly free of this type of shit. It's so fucking funny for them to just now go in on this AAA americoid bullshit now that everyone is completely tired of it and it's universally mocked by everyone but the lowest redditor. Especially after other M already happened.
Ok before the thread ends, can someone be a true Metroid fan if they've not gotten one of the zero suit samus endings in at least a few of the games?
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