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Did the Xillia Remaster bomb?
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>>726044519
fortunately
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>>726044519
Just give us a new Tales already
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unfortunate since it's the second best Tales game behind Xillia 2
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>>726044519
>no marketing whatsoever
>buggy af compared to original
rip
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>>726044519
What did they censor? I didn't buy it because they openly announced that it would be censored like it was a selling point. But hardly anyone bought it, so I can't find any information.
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>>726047051
They removed the pipe from the pipe and moustache attachment.
Uncensored everything else that was censored on ps3.
So I'm pretty sure that was done as a joke against censorship.
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>>726048631
That's it? A pipe?
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>>726048921
That's it.
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>>726049180
It says some item descriptions were altered too.
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>>726044519

>weeb games

Finally, this is my kind of gaming since 2009 and I have yet to play one of these. I'm trying to get into them. Which one should I play first?
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>>726049412
I haven't noticed anything.
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>>726049440

Oh and I have Lost Oddyssey. I just have yet to play it too.
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>>726049630
Good. The changes are going unnoticed.
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>>726049440
You can start with Xillia if you want. It's kind of incomplete which is why Xillia 2 was made right after, but it's still a solid game.

I'd also recommend Tales of the Abyss, Vesperia, Graces and Berseria.
>>726049645
Lost Odyssey is pretty cool. Feels like the last actual final fantasy.
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Why didn't no one buyed boughted it?
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>>726049918
I blew through my decade of Bamco budget back in January with $40 Freedom Wars which has been down to $13
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>>726048921
>>726049180
teepo no longer bumps into millas boobs in cutscenes
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>>726044519
xillia 1 was barely average by even the standards at the time and tons of longtime fans hated it. 2 is a lot better by almost every metric.
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>>726050239
1 is rushed game syndrome (had to make it in time for the anniversary)
2 is majoras mask syndrome (pretty much redux version of 1st game thats also rushed)
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xillia 1 had better gameplay than vesperia but nobody will admit it. Yuri controls like a grandpa with arthritis compared to Jude.
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Elize is so predatory. The way she harassed Leia about being alone with Jude and her evil smirk when she found out nothing happened between them and then this, taking advantage of a sad man...
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Holy shit that postgame boss took forever.
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>>726049440
Berseria would be my pick. The plot-line is interesting, the voice acting is great and the gameplay is- Uh, ass. But Tales gameplay is always kind of ass. Velvet is hot.
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>>726053430
>and the gameplay is- Uh, ass.
>But Tales gameplay is always kind of ass
this is bait.
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Isla, that's not PC anymore...
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>>726055946
Her sidequests following that were so fucked.
At first I pitied her because of how Alvin was blackmailing her, but she really is just such a pathetic fuck-up.
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>>726050184
Me when I post lies on the internet
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Does it have a ton of missable side quest like Vesperia does?

I'm here to play video game, not follow walkthroughs.
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>>726057208
I can't think of any missables. Most optional stuff are just extra scenes, lore and character development bits that aren't important to the main plot. You'll get some money or a cosmetic attachment at most.
They also made skits that show up specifically to remind you when a new optional thing is available.
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>>726057208
It doesn't have a ton of side quests period. Xillia is unfinished as fuck since they rushed it out for their 15th anniversary. The reason Xillia 2 exists and was able to be made in less than a year is because they had a shitload of half finished assets that were cut from the original game.
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>>726044519
Bandai Namco is a dumpster company, People are finally realizing it.
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>>726058904
Xillia 2 has a lot of content to make up for that.
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>>726044519
Id argue Tales of series is even more nische than the trails series at this point in time. Imagine how much less relevance it would have had as a series if Symphonia hadn't done as well as it did. Bumco knows people don't give a rats ass about these remasters of decade old titles they keep shitting out but need to fill in the long gaps before their next mainline title.
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>>726044519
Waiting for them to fix at least some of the bugs. They haven't yet
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>>726059507
That reuses everything from the original so every single thing feels extremely cheap.
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>>726060445
>Imagine how much less relevance it would have had as a series if Symphonia hadn't done as well as it did
which in itself is a miracle given the flopcube
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>>726060445
I care about the remasters because they're very well done.
The symphonia remasters are the only bad ones, and the latest Xillia remaster has some bugs but otherwise they're all well done.
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>>726044519
No Steelbook no buy.
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>>726060639
It's no mystery Symphonia gets sucked off so much because it was one of the jew JRPGs on the gamecube. Abyss came out right after and was way better in every way but doesn't get sucked off nearly as much as Symphonia because the ps2 was drowning in JRPGs.
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>>726044519
Thankfully, a half-baked remaster of an half-baked game shouldn't sell well. I would've bought it if they used the "remaster" to actually finish the game and its story this time and not cut it short at the ~65% point.
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>>726044519
I didn't even know there was a remaster of Xillia. After some research I found that most of these bugs appear on the Switch. But anyone that still uses shitty Nintendo hardware deserves to play shitty 30 fps ports. The PS5/PC version looks fine apart from some texture issues.

I might buy it for PS5 once it goes on sale.
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>>726060765
Abyss was completely overshadowed by FF12 which released like 2 weeks after it. Its a shame since Abyss is by far the better game.
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>>726061602
>The PS5/PC version looks fine apart from some texture issues.
Playing above 30fps makes some skits take 10 full minutes to show up.
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>>726060445
You'd have to make some weird arguments considering Trails sells a fraction of what Tales does. Just Arise alone sold more than 1/3rd the entire Trails franchise put together.
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>>726061602
I play on ps5 and I've had two glitches in my 60 hour completion of the game.
One was when exiting Milla's shrine the screen went black and it was stuck loading forever.
The second was using a mystic arte in the post-game dungeon, Milla got stuck doing the overdrive arte and the entire screen froze when the MA should have activated.
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I remember the final boss taking me a full 20 minutes on ps3 but it was over in a flash this time.
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>>726061964
The real question is which game did more damage to their series: Arise or Cold Steel 4?
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>>726061964
>You'd have to make some weird arguments
Hows this for an arguemnt .......Haha
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>>726044519
hard to believe considering the tales remasters were done on the ultra cheap
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Was this really necessary for Milla's character arc?
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>>726062697
less was necessary honestly
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>>726060765
>>726061630
Trust the plan Abyss bros
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>>726062697
I need to rush through the Milla side to get this costume again ASAP
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>>726060765
>Symphonia gets sucked off so much
the quality of the remaster would certainly not make you think that
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>>726062165
Trails still has a chance to rebound back. Tales has literally nobody willing to work on the series anymore. It's like megaman. You have to force devs at gunpoint just to get anything out.
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>>726062920
>Its a shitty port of the 3ds version
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>>726063029
That's because bamco is retarded and keeps making shitty versions based on the PS2 version rather than GC. Or use shitty upscale.
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>>726062697
more costumes like this please
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>>726063029
which remaster?
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>>726063283
I played both.
The differences are:
>3DS loads faster
>Smaller resolution obviously.
>The trees in Baticul don't sway
that's all I noticed.
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>>726044519
Probably considering I didn’t know it released.
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>>726063362
>tfw Tear STILL doesn't get the Yulia costume in the Abyss Remaster
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>>726063397
3ds also isn't 60 fps and fixes some bugs. But you're right that there aren't all that many differences.
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>>726062920
The plan is real, bro. We're just early believers. When Abyss drops that 4K 60fps definitive edition with actually working subtitles and full anime cutscene integration, all the doubters will kneel. Until then, we suffer in faith.
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>>726065250
The skits will be voiced. I know they will be. They just will!
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they fucked up by not doing a double pack. they probably could have gotten away with a 60/70 dollar price tag if it has 2 games and those are always more attractive to hear as a consumer, "collection/duology/complete pack"
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>>726048631
I like how you skipped over the removal of idol costumes. Disingenuous much?
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I got the Platinum for this game on PS3 back when I was like 18. My soul will not allow me to replay the remaster. I never to finish Xillia 2, so I’ll buy that one.
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>>726048921
Japanese laws got stricter on depictions of smoking in video games so even a joke pipe would raise the age rating of tales of xillia so it's easier to just remove it.
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>>726066410
It wasn't on my mind because
>never came to NA to begin with
>Idolshit deserves to be burned and people who want it should be crucified.
>Not bringing back licensed cosmetics isn't censorship.
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>>726066410
fuck idol shit
give me code gayass
give me miku in graces
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>>726066464
X2 is the one I platinumed and I can't wait to do it again. What a fantastic game.
I hope Ludger's voice is unlocked by default in the starting grade shop thing.
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>>726066410
The only Bamco series that should have idol shit is Ace combat and only because it's had it forever. Other series should have better shit
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>>726056085
Imagine hatesex with Muzet
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>>726066737
I could not stomach X2 after 10h or so. idk how you did it, the entire game felt like an asset flip.
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>>726066334
I'm 99% certain the Xillia 2 remaster is being developed by a different company (because the rest of the remasters have been, and that's what they said their strategy is), so it's just a matter of them not being coordinated to release at the same time. Maybe they'll do a duology pack once it's actually finished.
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>>726066410
removal of licensed content is not censorship
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>>726067034
Because I don't have a conniption if I see the same asset from a prior game.
If anything it's like the second half of X1.
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>>726062960
The green strand of hair looks so dumb with this haircut
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>>726067282
Blame Sylph, she's apparently Milla's hair stylist.
In battle her ahoge lifts up in the air.
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>>726044519
probably, the marketing buzz around it was almost nonexistent unlike Tales of Graces f rerelease. I didn't even hear that it was out til a few days after it released
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>>726067282
Do not insult her crowning glory.
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>>726067659
I think Bamco knows Xillia 2 and Abyss are the ones people are most excited about. Xillia 1 was not up to snuff on its original release either. They're likely saving marketing budget for those.
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>>726046562
What bugs
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>>726068104
Mostly switch bugs like sliding models or freezing. There's some bugs for PC/Ps5 too. I think they're related to a memory leak.
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>>726044519
Maybe
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>>726068104
I've only come across one bug where I went into an inn and screen had a dark overlay as if I had opened the pause menu. I could still manually open the pause menu and close it, but couldn't do anything else. Exited to the main menu and tried to reload the autosave, only the for the game to delete the autosave because it was corrupted.
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>>726071996
the party was killed in their sleep at the inn. :(
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>>726050696
Elize wants to have sex with Gaius, Alvin, and Jude all at once.
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>>726073009
If there's ever a Xillia 3 she'll be the tall busty seductress party member.
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>>726044519
The Steam port was apparently really bad with lots of bugs that still hasn't been fixed.
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>>726067212
It absolutely is. Buy the license again or don't remake the game.
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>>726066632
Anon bandai namco own the IP themselves
They even had them on English release so it won't be a problem if they want to add it
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>>726044519
Whats the purpose exactly? I got itfor the switch to play it handheld since i already forgot most of what happened and it looks exactly like the ps3 version and even worse since its stretche out on a 4k tv when im not in handheld mode
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>>726078115
They saved us from idolshit, I thank them.
Wish we got the code geass costumes though...
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>>726044519
>wasn't a complete xillia 1+2 remaster
>censored
DoA
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>>726078187
>Get a console with the power of a ps3
>wtf why does this look like the ps3 version?
every fucking time with you idiots
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>>726044519
>snap pivot simulator
Im waiting for freezing eruption simulator
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>>726078371
my man.
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>>726078346
I also have a ps5, well does it look better on the ps5 or does it sitll just look like the ps3?
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>>726078676
try comparing some of the screenshots in this thread
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>>726058904
>if Xillia 1 wasn't rushed we might not have had Xillia 2
>if we didn't get Xillia 2 there would have been a big gap between Xillia 1 and the next Tales game
>If there was a big gap between Xillia 1 and the next Tales game they might not have made the kneejerk snap reaction to jap shitters retarded complaints about Xillia's combat system mechanics
>if they didn't listen to those reactions we might live in a world where Tales combat hasn't been ruined for the last decade and a half with elemental rock-paper-scissors bullshit
man, what could have been
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>>726059507
new MC though. i wanted to main milla not ludger
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>>726078842
Then just play as Milla. You get her a bit later but she's still there with all her usual artes and more.
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>>726062152
Probably my favorite final boss in the entire series, if I'm being honest.
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Why would I buy the remaster of a game I already in, in a series that hasn't had a new good game in over a decade?
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>>726079023
Why are you asking us? Make up your own mind.
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>Leia's Farah costume refers to Eternia as Tales of Destiny 2 (EN)
>Rowen's Barbatos costumes refers to it as Tales of Destiny 2 (JP)

A Tale of 2 Destiny 2s
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>>726079167
it was a hypothetical question. I'm not going to buy it.
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>>726079297
ok.
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I started a replay of Eternia. Playing as Farah makes me want to pick up Xillia again. I'll wait for a sale though.
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Tales of cuck shill thread
Final fantasy won
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>>726082461
won what?
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>>726082558
that's a big cat.
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>>726065250
>scamco putting that much effort on these demasters
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>>726084069
4 u
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>>726084225
TRUST
THE
PLAN
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LIGHTNING NOVA
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FOLLOW IT UP!
CROSS THRUST!
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>>726059507
Xillia 2 has good content. Problem is, Xillia had design problems that could ever be fixed with a remake or more 2 years in the oven.
The fields and dungeons are all uninspired trash, and Elympios nas NOTHING.
Xillia 2 is a better game, but still carries most of Xillia's design.
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MUTTON
FRESH MUTTON
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>>726062165
Crossbell games
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>>726062920
I honestly don't want them to release it cause Abyssfags have been insufferable. I'm not sure who is worse, them or Vesperiafags.
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>>726049752
what was this girl's problem? it's like she's asking to be raped every time she opens up her mouth on screen.
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>>726078769
Not having Xillia 2 is out of question. The time skip and characters finally having goals, their own agendas and Character Quests in the sequel is the best part of the duology.
Putting a Cameo Battle in Xillia wouldn't fix it how boring and pushovers half of the cast originally was.
Unless a time skip happened in the middle of the game and Ludger was introduced in Elympios, Xillia would suck even worse if the sequel never existed even if it had the content of previous games.
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>>726089568
She had a traumatic upbringing that messed her brain up bad when she was 6~11.
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>>726089780
If that's how you feel anon, that's fair enough. I don't necessarily hate Xillia 2, more than anything I just have a great disdain for the elemental rock-paper-scissors plaguing the game and the series since. I certainly still enjoyed aspects of the game despite that, to be sure.
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Tokimachi Eisei forever tainted Xillia for me. And I'm not complaining.
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>>726090289

Hypothetically if Xillia 2 remaster added a Graces F tier epilogue where you got to play as Teenage Elle would people stop being mad they didnt include X2 with 1?
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>>726044519
I sure hope so, it's another fucking broken piece of shit just like Symphonia but worse, the Switch version is literally unplayable from the moment you get three party members, battles just freeze constantly for several seconds at a time, and by the point you get Elize and Rowen any spell they cast completely tanks the framerate, the idea that a PS3 game can't run fine on the Switch even though they cut the framerate is fucking insane, Red Dead Redemption runs better, has a higher resolution, better textures and significantly swifter loading times on the Switch than on the PS3, BASE Switch that is, not even Switch 2, hell, The Witcher 3 with all its technical caveats is COMPLETE on the Switch, Namco is just fucking incompetent as fuck.
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>>726090289
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>>726090390
I mean X2 doesn't actually have a canon end so the Ludger end is supposed to be just as valid as the Elle one so someone out there would probably be mad about it if anything.
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>>726090390
I've always wanted a spin-off where you play as Elle and all you do is missions like any Spirius agent would, aside from the fractured dimension stuff since that's gone. Don't need any elaborate story, or even any lore reason why the old cast might come back.
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>>726090632
Teen Elle sex
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>>726049440
The only games in the series worth playing:
>Symphonia
Emulate the GameCube version, all re-releases have been based on the inferior PS2 version and are increasingly buggy as fuck.
>Abyss
Best aesthetics of the entire franchise, the cast is fucking insufferable but the story is actually better for it.
>Vesperia
Essentially the anti-Abyss, generic as fuck and a very aimless story, but the cast is so likeable it makes the whole thing worth it.
>Graces
Generic story and cast, but the best combat system in the series.
>Xillia/Xillia 2
Arguably the most beginner friendly games of the series, pretty incomplete without each other but together they have one of the best stories and casts in the entire franchise.

You could check out Arise if you want, it's a competent Tales game, just pretty mid in general.

Avoid Zestiria like the pest.
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>>726090390
You don't have to even entertain the thought, they're outsourcing these remasters mostly to mobage developers. They're not putting new shit in them.
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>>726090698
Eternia is excellent, Hearts R is great.
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>>726090698
I feel like you mixed up Abyss and Vesperia.
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>>726091047
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I wish Agria would mock me.
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>>726089865
Let me guess. Rape ?
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When does Berseria get good? This shit is boring as hell
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>>726091415
Nah Tales almost never touches on things like that (though it heavily implies Isla sold her body).
Agria had her step siblings stomped her birds to death then her mom jumped out a window and killed herself. She ran away and probably lived like an animal until getting to Kanbalar.
>>726091453
Did you try having fun or does the game have to have fun FOR you?
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>>726091453
if you don't know why birds fly you'll never connect with the game
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>>726089865
I may be misremembering but isn't she just some rich bitch from Rashugal who betrayed her country for shits and giggles?
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>>726044519
You tell us
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>>726091597
Betray is a pretty heavy word to place on a child who got abused. She was a bastard child, her father slept with a baseborn woman named Eva and they got abused by the main nobility until:
>>726091540
happened. Some side events go into detail on this.
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>>726091453
Story-wise is at least Top 3 in the whole series. Gameplay won't get better.
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>>726091597
nah, a skit after her second fight dumped her sad backstory
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>>726091453
It doesn't. Don't play anything that comes after the Xillia games if you're looking for good gameplay, fool.
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>>726091762
I didn't remember that, explains much, though I wouldn't blame her if she had betrayed Rashugal just because, Nachtigal is a fucking idiot.
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>>726067108
>I'm 99% certain the Xillia 2 remaster is being developed by a different company
Oh god please be true, this one sucks compared to the one that did Graces
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>>726091453
Berseria was a valiant effort at course correcting after the travesty that was Zestiria but probably having been in development before the backlash and Baba leaving in shame means there's lots of leftover retardation in it.
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>>726091453
That's the neat part, it doesn't.
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>Xillia thread
>Quickly turns into people talking about either 2 or other Tales games
Every time.
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>>726067108
Wait, so who do we owe the massive, buggy-ass pile of ineptitude that is the Xillia "remaster"?
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>>726091453
The tried really hard with the history and failed and the combat doesn’t change much from being a bottom smasher, honestly I never finish it, I drop it 2 or 3 dungeons before the end, because I was bored of the combat after 50 hours.
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>>726092032
According to Steam, DOKIDOKI Grooveworks, I think some crappy mobile devs
Meanwhile the one who did Graces is TOSE which actually is quite the veteran at doing ports, not surprising Graces remaster turned out so smooth with barely any problems.
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>>726092213
Go figure, Graces runs buttery smooth even on the OG Switch.
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Bamco is so incompetent. First OPM S3 and now this
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>>726091948
The xillia 1 company may have been for fresh recruits since it's a lower priority kind of game. Everyone even in the Tales of company knows it pales to things like Graces, Xillia 2 and Abyss.
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>>726092026
oops hehe.

This cutscene was so fucking funny on that note.
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>>726092026
2 is Xillia albeit
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>>726092287
Too bad they have the licenses of Gundam and shit and also a fuckton of merch properties and they'll never actually die.
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>>726092335
Graces F and Xillia 2 are not higher priority than Symphonia, and we all know what happened to that game.
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>>726092287
bamco is a mixed bag, they can give you pacman world 2 and digimon time stranger, and them give you sparking zero and little nightmares 3
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>>726092546
In japan is sure is. Only the west really liked symphonia over the others because of:
>>726060765
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Leia is my waifu
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>>726092659
This but Muzet.
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>>726092659
Good taste.
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>>726092659
This but Teepo
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>>726092659
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spankable
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>>726092659
As much as I think bersaria is mid, I will make velvet 6 children if given a chance.
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>>726092630
Not really, even in Japan ToS is way more popular. The only polls Graces and Xillia 2 ever win are about combat.
https://www.siliconera.com/tales-of-fans-ranked-the-most-played-games-theme-songs-and-best-battle-systems/
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>>726092815
grok is this real
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>>726092546
other than the original Gamecube every Symphonia release is fucked up, I legit think Bamco fucked up either can't figure out the spaghetti code, lost it, or somehow just too fucking lazy to implement the extra PS2 content into the Gamecube build
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>>726092908
No, Leia Rolando from Tales of Xillia is in fact, not a real person. She is fiction. If you are experiencing feeling of despair, apathy or general depression, please call the Suicide Hotline and get immediate help.
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>>726093001
They should've remade it with Unity like Graces and Xillia back in 2015. Or in 2023.
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>>726068104
There's some funny stuff like T posing, a bug with the lilium orb and not being able to back out of it or whatever and I don't know what else.
Personally I play on PC capped to 60 FPS and it's been working fine so far.
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>>726048921
The pipe was probably due to laws like in Jojos anime
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Reminder Emulated PS3 version is far superior than Remaster
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>>726093643
Cute!
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>726093659
Not even close.
Worse colors, worse performance, bugs if you don't use older builds.
And the only advantage is like 8 paid costumes that were excluded from the remaster out of 40 or 41.
Stay retarded though, Retard.
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>>726093717
bro doesn't even know how to quote properly and he's calling other people retarded lmao
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>>726093717
>He didnt use Jap Undub
Lmao. Also works on my Potato PC at 60fps
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>>726093778
Pretty sure he didn't directly quote you because you don't deserve a (you).
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>>726093992
this isn't reddit get out of here with your retarded upvote mentality
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The gang will finally be complete.
Just 8 more months.
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>>726049440
In the order that I played them
>Vesperia
Great entry into the series if you hate the looser virgin shounen trope. Very solid story and lovable cast. I ended replaying it in NG+ immediately.
>Symphonia
Difficult to digest after Vesperia, I ended up dropping it. I will probably give it another chance later, and go with the GC version (I played the PS3 port). It was first Tales game for many in the US, so it has big following among English speakers.
>Graces f
Forgettable story, great gamplay. I still need to get through the Futures arc.
>Xillia
Extremely good story, has 2 paths you can pick (Jude or Milla), you will need to play the game twice to get all of it. I recommend going with Jude if you want to play it once and jump straight into X2, as it has some important story points you may miss.
>Xillia 2
More polished on the mechanics side, the story is similarly great, but the world is more bare, depressing, and the areas from X1 have very little meaning in the story, so you get no chance to re-explore them meaningfully.
It's a shame that these are 2 separate games, and they didn't remaster them into one.
>Abyss
Fun with big F, lots of content you can miss, one of the less serious entries in my opinion (at least at times), but the story still carries weight. I'm not yet done with it.
I think this one and the Graces benefit the most from familiarity with the series, so start with either Vesperia or Xillia.

Arise is not a Tales game, don't let Bamco trick you.
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Isn't it weird that Bamco back in the day fucking love remaking old Tales games yet now that JRPG genre is full of remakes all they did are remasters
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>>726094418
It's more costly these days and Bamco turned evil(er) over the years.
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>>726094065
Hey it was enough to make you seethe.
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>>726094503
i don't think you know what that word means
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>>726094418
There are only 3 Bamco-developed Tales remakes (Phantasia PS1, Narikiri Dungeon X, and Destiny PS2) and 2 outsourced remakes (the Vita games). They're all great, but they weren't exactly common.
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>>726094579
There it is again.
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>>726092281
Graces is a Wii U game.
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>>726094846
>Wii U
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>>726094857
>it was Wii
When the fuck did I switch timelines.
I swear that garbage UI kept in the PS3 version was designed for the tablet.
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>>726095048
must touch
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This is probably going to get me heat but Berseria is the very first Tales game to get the right amount of flinch resistance.
Symphonia was a pain.

Abyss gave the whole party Glory (very late game but still) which made them unflinchable to all but a handful of attacks. This was supposed to be a trade-off because tanking consecutive hits meant you'd die quicker, but it was too much of a boon to be offset by the cost.

Vesperia only gave Yuri glory which made him an unstoppable combo machine and everyone else is strictly not as good and he could infinitely combo bosses. The PS3 version gave every boss a massive amount of techout and resistance frames so comboing them became nigh impossible, swinging the direct other way too hard.

Graces introduced ironstance and jesus christ don't get me started on accuracy/evasion.

Xillia your party members flinch from EVERY single attack no matter how gentle and enemies need to take consecutive hits even a tiny little bird can just staggerlock you if you're unlucky while it tanks hits. Endgame, Jude gets Grounded Stance which is Glory while both feet are on the ground. It's a linked skill so anyone who partners with him also gets it, making him the most valuable party member in the whole game.

Xillia 2 fixed a lot like giving a ton of party members Grounded Stance endgame to make up for stagger being an issue kinda, but also fixed how enemies and bosses stagger in a major way with Power Combos which should absolutely be a series staple and brings back power charges during guard.

Berseria finally allows you to gain a respectful amount of ironstance during attacks and guard power charging without making you completely impervious to flinching. It also has a weaker version of Power Combos which a lot of people ignore because it's simply not as good as it was in X2. You can combo every boss if you're good enough, all the way up to and including the final boss and post-game bosses.

Tales of Arise took a fat shit on all of that.
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>>726095473
Forgot to mention Xillia 2 also has side-stepping. in X1 it was tied to an attack so it wasn't very good but in X2 you can swoosh around enemies like Graces + Berseria which makes stagger a lot less of an issue.
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>>726095048
babymaking with legal hebes in germany.
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>>726095395
is every girl's pantsu in this game black?
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>>726096693
I can't disclose that information.
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>>726096798
uohhh teepo
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>>726096798
tfw we will never get loli swimsuits anymore that qualify as fap material. Oh well, guess I will just go outside with all the blonde young hebes doing it.
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>>726091661
Honestly, based off everything, the way she eviscerated her step siblings felt quite justified. Doesn't fix her but maybe one of us could have
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>>726092213
>DOKIDOKI Grooveworks
>they're the ones who worked on Octopath Traveler 0 coming in less than 3 weeks
Uh oh.
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>>726044519
>no Switch 2 version
I'll just wait for a sale.
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>get Xillia
>actually loving it
>suddenly have to be away from my PC for two weeks
FUCK
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>>726097269
get 'eckin
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>>726095048
The PS3 version of Graces came out like 2 years before the Wii U
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>>726097684
PS3 is not that old
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>choose between sexy lady or generic boy
>sexy lady ruins the story if you pick her
>no warning or small mention that playing Jude first would make more sense
but why though? they did the same shit in Scarlet Nexus with the girl protag's story not making sense without the guy
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Bazongas.

That is all.
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>>726098264
Just a gimmick to freshen things up but no clue how to properly do it.
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>>726090415
Shit. Really that bad? I guess the NSW1 footage online is all prologue footage.

And yeah, they do a shit job on these. Far more demanding games are available on the hardware, and while it's clearly a probem with games developed for the PS3 as originals, Symphonia and its subsequent patches shows us that they're ready to put out a feeble product rather than spend some effort to fix fixable issues.
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Recently played Destiny DC. I dropped it at the final dungeon where you need to split your party. I had enough of the game's bullshit, the entire second part of the game is a disaster.
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>>726100616
Sounds like melodrama from anon mate. I can look at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdtrKWDpxeE

and there are visible frame rate drops, but nothing like what he describes
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>>726049440
>Which one should I play first?
1) Tales of the Abyss
2) Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition
3) Tales of Graces f Remastered
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>>726045936
Sorry but it was boring. Xillia 2 was fun, funnier dialogue but Xillia 1 bored me to death. It looked pretty but I think they took the story too seriously.
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>>726098264
Its less Milla ruins the story and more that picking her first means missing a massive chunk of the plot for obvious reasons.
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>>726048921
In the German version they changed Jude to Jyde because Jude means Jew



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