bethesdas fallout is not canon and fallout series ended with new vegas
>>726049019why do you post a shitty meme pic instead of something ACTUALLY in the game, if it was so great, retard
>>726049019You really don't need to give toddfags your time of day unless you really like making the same posts over and over again. Anyone that's played NV knows it's the best one overall. Anyone posting the word Chadout is just being disingenuous
>>726049167good night saar
What the fuck even is "canon">duude this tale of complete and utter fabrication is actually more real than this other story of absolute fictionPeak commercial age brainrot.
>>726049529>he thinks the media landscape doesn't matter and doesn't deserve fighting over itfuckers like you is why we are losing the culture war
>>726049529>Peak commercial age brainrot.the idea of a "canon" has been a thing since forever, what are you talking about?
>>726049529>Only the things that I specifically care about are worth caring aboutCare about brushing your teeth nigga
>>726049019new vegas is bethesda fallout and should not be canon
>>726049765Way to expose yourself
>>726049892New Vegas is barely Bethesda Fallout. It's so little like it that Bethesda made sure there'd never be another game like it
>>726049892bethesda only published it, they didn't make it
>>726050005not sure if it's their fault or obsidians but it's the same flanderized shit as fallout 3
>>726049529bro never learned about the East-West Schism
>>726049019Fallout 1 and 2 are a contained canon. Everything else is its own thing
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>>726050149it's not
>>726049019New Vegas is Bethesda fallout and the whole idea came from Todd. If it was bad he'd have scrapped it but it was good
>>726049857the canon you're referring to is not, it's a manchild concept coping with comic books and sci fi series pumping out retarded sequels
>>726050149Fallout 2 is the most flanderized fallout in the series The identity of fallout as it is today is Bethesda. Your seething about it in the face of its success won't change that it is the driving force behind the series.
>>726049019I for one always side with House. He'll do the science while I do the "people handling" if you know what I mean
>>726050578>"and the whole idea came from Todd">mostly reused concepts from van buren
>>726049529literally fedora tipping
>>726049857It has been a thing forever to refer to traceable authorship rather than an "expanded universe's reality". It has also been used in reference to religious texts as a means of establishing historic events which people genuinely believe happened in real life and teachings deriving from them. You are either the most intellectually dishonest faggot alive or dumber than an Indian's flip flop to conflate the actual definitions of the word with pop culture fandom faggotry.
>>726050578>and the whole idea came from Todd.it did not,the voices in your head lied to you
>>726050690>It's success The last fallout game came out a decade ago, and we're not getting another one for another decade because they still have to make elder scrolls 6. There is no more fallout success
>>726049019Even when the Lead Writer called New Vegas a DLC?
>>726050005Literally the exact same shitty gameplay, awful physics, dogshit engine, terrible graphics, cheap assets, boring gunplay, janky movement, abysmal animations.>b-but my sophomoric writing!Who the fuck cares? Your tranny discord, that's who. New Vegas is a dogshit expansion pack to a dogshit total conversion of Oblivion.
>>726052256And that means what? That a self proclaimed "dlc" blows Fallout 3 the fuck out?
>>726052608>The game is bad because it's in Bethesda's engine>Summing up everything else about the game as "sophomoric writing"Disingenuous. This is your one (you)
>>726052608>Who the fuck cares? Your tranny discordnobody mentioned anything about trans peoplewhy are you guys so obsessed with them
>>726052857see>>726052256You're huffing copium. Gameplay defines a video game. NV is a straight up copy paste of Fallout 3.
>>726050005>>726052608How do you people not know the difference between Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Games Studios? Softworks is the publisher of New Vegas but BGS had to assist Obsidian with the Quality Control after it released due to the bugs.
The truth is that Bethesda just threw Obisidan to make FNV and didn't think much of it. He wanted it to be good, make money and that's it. But it became liked way too much by people and everyone started shitting on Bethesda for being worse than them and in turn that made Todd seethe. Which is exactly why they went out of the way to murder just about everything people liked about classic fallout or FNV in their show
>>726053019Lmao then get mods to make the gunplay better. There are a fuckton of really good FNV mods that modernize the game and make it 100x smoother to play, so people like you can finally appreciate the characters, atmosphere, and roleplaying. Inb4>No!
Bethesda fallout is capeshit, because, just like with capeshit, you can change any of the details. You can change the story, the characters, the plot events, you can retcon the lore infinitely, anything. None of that shit matters. Bethesda fallout is a brand. If you took the institute or the plot about your son getting abducted out of Fallout 4, it would still be Fallout 4. But if you got rid of nuka cola and the vault boy and deathclaws and super mutants and bombed out, jetsons-ified boston, it becomes something other than Fallout 4, because those things are all Fallout 4 really is.Even if you didn't like the story, NV had one to tell. The characters and plot events in the game are load-bearing. If you get rid of Caesar, or the Hoover Dam, or NCR, you aren't playing NV.
>>726053340>We paid them to make a game with our IP and when it underperformed, we decided not to give them another shot. Oh, and the CEO decided to sue us for letting them make another game
>>726049019>bash Caesars head in>bash Houses head inand if the game was good I'd bash yes mans computer screen in
>>726053157They assisted with playtesting so that means they did the bulk of the work? Did Bethesda design the characters, write the dialogue, and create the player choices? No, and you know that, you're just being a fag.
>>726053382>and make it 100x smoother to playWhat is 1000*0? How about I play an actual decent first person shooter instead of trying to turn Big Rigs Over the Road Racing into Assetto Corsa?>characters, atmosphere, and roleplaying>new vegaslmaoYour game has the literal Kathy, the Penguin of Doom in it.
Guys, Todd's massive tranny schlong is so powerful, i cant help but, *silly hypno'd* huh? You want me to buy more fallout 3 and 4? B-but i already did several times. Ok todd sama ill do it but you need to give my Fab-ussy an extra large pumping tonight teehee.
>>726049019fallout is an RPG series, and only the first 2 games are any good at that
>>726049019So true sister!How's the dilation going?
>>726053720Disingenuous. We're done
>>726053492honestly remove the baby and the institute and fallout 4 would be a good game. there I said it, it would be a GOOD GAME.
fabio stalks the thread. you can tell cause it smells like indian food
>>726053903>Trans...Trans...Trans...Trans.....TrAAAANS....TRAAAAAAAAAAAANSSS!!!>Anon, there are no trans people here, please take your me->AAAAAAAGHHHHH!!! TRANS!! TRAAAAAAAAAAANS!!!
>>726054050It's already a good game with survival mode. Removing the baby and the institute won't magically make the railroad make sense or make the locations more than underwhelming.
>>726054183dont be like that, trannies raped his father to death
>>726054093who the fuck is fabio? every time a fallout thread gets made people start talking about this guy
>>726053658>BGS had to assist Obsidian with the Quality Control after it released due to the bugs.Read it again.
>>726054315If you remove the institute the railroad wouldn't even exist, because no synths
>>726054415Everyone wants to start the next big /v/ meme. You've got Eric and Dylan and Tom and Jim and Jimmy and Joe and now there's Fabio. Also Chang and Rajesh and Goldenstein
>>726054428Yeah, some optimization to the game that released buggy as shit. Again, the main things that people like about New Vegas are the writing and characters. "Some optimization" doesn't cover that. Modders make unofficial patches but we don't call them the guys that "made New Vegas"
>>726054415dont ask, its better if you dont see his face. would make you lose all respect for fallout 3 posters.
>>726054429So what's the big battle to build up to in 4? I'm not asking because I think the story of 4 is good at all, I'm just wondering what you mean by "it's good now" because there's no institute.
>>726053963Done with what? You attempting to defend your dogshit taste? Done with you pretending New Vegas is an actual RPG when there isn't even any difference between a 1 and 10 INT run when its predecessors managed to do it decades before? Done with pretending it's an oh such a deep gameplay experience despite being a mechanical copypaste of one of the shittiest games in the medium's history? Done pretending the factions mean dick when you end up running the same quests regardless of whether you go Caesar, NCR, Yes Man or Elon Musk? 'bout time.
>>726055239fab post bro!
>>726055356The fact that you have absolutely nothing to say as a rebuttal but are desperate enough to seek the last word really shows how tilted you are over this.
>>726055239What RPG are you comparing New Vegas to? It reads to me like you're expecting every RPG to be perfect. There can be no annoying characters, no bugs, no annoying things about the gameplay, etc. You can't even mod out the annoying shit and mod in new fun stuff because that's not fair. The game gives the player more than enough ways to play who they want to play in the story, and the characters you get to interact with have interesting personalities with motivations that make sense.
god people that try to get the last word so desperately reeks of jeet. good thing this post is related to any argument with a schizo!
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>>726055548NTA but he's comparing it to fallout 2 which is far from perfect but at least the stats matter in that gamenew vegas is a super casual game for people who can't into the abstraction that people expect from RPGs
>>726049019The only reason you know of this mediocre turd of a series is because of Bethesda.
>>726055548he's comparing it to the original fallouts that had retard dialogue for low int charactersbut that's only for int. high or low stats in other specials don't change rp systems dramatically like low int did
>>726055837no, it came to me in a dream
>>726055749"Far from perfect" yeah like New Vegas is. The stat checks being hard limits and intelligence giving you more skill points is kinda dumb, yeah, but overall I don't see it being that bad when there are so many different ways to complete quests. I usually don't rp as a retard so I haven't noticed much of a difference >>726055865Is not being able to be a weak retard the main thing you guys are upset about with new vegas? That's a fine criticism if so, I'm just confused on why you'd wanna be one in a game too
>>726055548>What RPG are you comparing New Vegas to?Well for starters Fallout 1 actually managed to provide significant enough differences in gameplay experience depending on your build. Production value was more than a candy wrapper with a dollar sign drawn on it so the combat in terms of sound and visual design actually felt visceral and satisfying. High quality speitework with cool unique details for various types of guns and ammunition just work better than potato tier 3D bullet sponge models breaking at the exact same seams for the millionth time. In terms of gameplay it had 5/10 turn based combat as opposed to oblivion with guns being a 0/10 first person shooter. F1 and 2 were superior in literally every aspect. Writing, graphics, gameplay, style, roleplay. Actual decision making which was significant enough to make you lose the game depending on your choices unlike NV where nothing you do actually matters.
>>726055648Uh huh, that's right, tilted. I won here.
>>726055730sex with flatties
>>726056195>I'm confused why you'd want roleplaying options in a roleplaying game
>"NOOOOO!! THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL CAN'T BE THE BAD GUYS!!!!! TRANNY GAME! TRANNY GAME!"
>>726056357Yeah there are already a ton of roleplaying options. Weak retard isn't the only way to play the game, and acting like not having that makes it a bad game makes you sound like you're grasping at straws.
>>726056336thats vergil dmc
>>726056518...dammitOh well.
>>726056195you say that like those shitty threshold skill checks aren't 90% of the game. the remaining 10% being first person shooter combat where your stats don't matter relative to player mechanics is also badgo ahead and compare the implementation of any stats. charisma is famously useless in NV because there's an eternal 1 companion limit
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>>726049529Vanilla Fallout 3 was the only game to properly do canon correctly.
>>726056690>you say that like those shitty threshold skill checks aren't 90% of the game. the remaining 10% being first person shooter combatBe real here. 5% of Oblivion 3: New Vegas is skill checks. 95% of it is you playing the FPS equivalent of big rigs and rummaging through garbage containers.
>>726056283>Bad decisions can kill youYeah that's a cool thing that would've made New Vegas better. You just sound like a fucking idiot when you disregard anything that could possibly be a good thing about New Vegas.>>726056690>Skill checks are 90% of the gameThey can be if you're speeching through everything. Lying to that Crimson Caravan lady and getting her blown up by the boomers is kino, and that's 1 out of 100 cool interactions that you can have in that game. I haven't bothered to play past the beginnings of the old fallouts, and I bet they're great games with good roleplaying, but I know my opinion on those games isn't going to make me think New Vegas is bad afterwards.
>>726057117Yeah but you can mod th->NO NO NO NO NO NO NO IT'S BIG RIGS IT'S BIG FUCKING RIGS
>>726057740Literally no amount of mods can turn new vegas into 4/10 shooter, let alone a good one. Modding in a grenade throw and sprint button won't change the fact that the entine system is fundamentally shit.
>>726058038yeah, this extends to every game on the bethshit engine. god, people couldnt even be bothered with starfield at all.
>>726058038You obviously haven't played it then, which I don't blame you for cause you have to want to do it. FNV and fallout 4 with those gameplay mods make it just as fun to play as any other tactical fps, and that skyrockets how much fun I have with the world and characters. It's kinda like playing Kingdom Hearts 2 on easy mode and then critical mode, if you've played that, because the extra challenge makes you experiment with the mechanics more.Also modding in a sprint button unironically makes the game more fun just on its own because you can juke people out; it's kinda busted but in a good way.
