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Cutting corners
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>>726052004
well it does have gpu you can't even buy because it's too SHIT to sell.
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Look you gotta make some compromises to hit a $700 price point.
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>>726052004
Was the Deck cutting corners to compete with Switch?
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Unfortunately unlike consoles, they have 0 leverage to force devs to actually optimise their games with the cube's specs in mind, so games will continue to be made with future RTX 10,000 series as the target platform aiming for 720p 30fps (with frame gen of course) and any problems on current hardware will be attributed to user error.
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>>726053243
they could get that leverage if they sold this for cheap enough
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who is this for? lets consider it will be 700 dolers
>poorfags
they would be better off upgrading their current pc with 2nd hand parts
>normies
ps5/xbox sex is cheaper and easier to get into (comes with a gamepad at the very least), have better specs, their normie friends have consoles as well
>pcfags
their pc is probably better specced
but maybe its for pcfags who want to play on their tv in the living room, that way they can play their shitty backlog of their steam library
>steamsois
perfect for their living room, most users will likely be people with lvl 100 steam accounts and steamdecks lmfao


I do think steamframe is really neat tho,
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The massive handicap is the fact that any game that has to run on Proton can be broken with the next update. You can install Windows on it, but that's more bloat to run for this modest PC.
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>pc weaker than ps5
what's the fucking point?
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>>726053445
>who is this for?
I want Valve to become even more powerful, so I will buy it.
Simple as.
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>>726053445
>>726053445
>>726053445
Is Steam Frame more expensive as quest 3 do you think

I was literally gonna buy it before the announcement. Now I’m not sure.
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>>726054481
NTA, but it's gonna cost between 700 and 900.
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Why not just buy an office PC, throw a SFF gpu in it, and install Linux?
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it just needs to play dota2, cs and other miscilanious f2p shit and 80% of the steam playerbase will be happy.
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>>726052004
>Experts say
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>>726053396
they won't, though. fatboy wants to have his cake and eat it too. it will be price matched with the PS5 at absolute minimum, which is hardly a bargain.
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>>726053243
>Unfortunately unlike consoles, they have 0 leverage to force devs to actually optimise their games with the cube's specs in mind
this is pretty much not a thing anymore and hasnt been for over a decade
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>polygon article thread
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i hope they release half life 3 with it and it blows everyone's dick's off and runs at billions fps on mid range hardware
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>>726054481
it will probably be a bit more expensive, but quest 3 is a bit old now isnt it? and 3S is kinda good

but u dont get the fucking meta spyware shit, like fuck valve, they cucked traders like me who used to profit off retards
I made around 10k usd adjusted for inflations 7 years ago
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>>726055172
I'll just play it on my laptop
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>>726055172
it will be VR tho, do you have a vr headset? better preorder the warframe
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>>726053445
The normie who wants access to PC games packaged as a console, I guess?
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>>726052004
it not being a locked down console is worth some corners
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>>726052004
>experts say
>when all the specs are listed on steam in plain english
>calling it cutting corners when there's still no price announced
>>>>>polygon
i strongly urge you to leave this world
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>>726052004
well everybody does that, all the meat is probably put onto the gpu and the rest is whatever, that's why pc is so superior, it not only has the same gpu if not better but the rest of the environment on pc could be top hardware too, if a game is released on consoles and pc, a game on consoles would struggle to run while on pc it would probably fly
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>>726053243
>Buys an underpowered system in hopes of playing the latest and greatest games
Sounds like user error to me.
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>8GB VRAM
It's dead on arrival.
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>>726052620
No, the Deck cut corners to beat the Switch 2 to market and was blindsided when the S2 was smaller, more powerful and cheaper.
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>>726053825
The PS5 is a powerful console that's been saddled with unoptimized garbage that misrepresents its capabilities. Same with the Series X.
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>>726052004
>between a Series S and Playstation 5
Keep in mind these systems are now 5 years old. And but of course the Valve cattle will slobber all over it.
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>>726055536
That's what the Steamdeck is for.
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>>726053445
It is for normies. Normies know about PC gaming now, it's 2025. But they still like an out of the box just works experience.
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>>726052004
>console wars are dead... how do we make click bait articles now?
>thank God valve is releasing a pc!
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>>726056386
Exactly this lmao
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>>726052004
Serious question: Isn't a machine that can only play steam games, and you can put it on your tv screen and it plays steam games, already exists? It's called the Playstation 5.

What is the fundamental difference between the Playstation 5 and the Gabecube, except the Gabecube being far cheaper?
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>>726052004
I hope the gabecube destroys modern consoles so that devs have to optimize their games and not make my processing power go towards rendering the peachfuzz on my characters asshole
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>>726053243
>unlike consoles, they have 0 leverage to force devs to actually optimise their games
Devs haven't optimized the console versions of their games since the PS2 era. Hell, these days they're all releasing games that don't even run properly on top of the line PCs.
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>>726052004
>>726052004
>cutting corners
>on a cube
polygon thought they were real clever with that one
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>>726056512
>far cheaper
you mean in parts or price? how much does it cost?
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>>726056512
The gabecube has games
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>>726052620
Yes. It was underpowered when it came out and that's with Valve admitting they were selling it at a loss.
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>>726056512
Can you play the latest Call of Duty on the PS3? No? Why's that?
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>>726052620
It was cutting corners because they didn't want to have to sell an $800+ handheld like other handheld gaming PC makers.
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>>726056512
>Isn't a machine that can only play steam games, and you can put it on your tv screen and it plays steam games, already exists? It's called the Playstation 5.
Was this an AI-generated sentence? The PS5 doesn't play Steam games, it's limited to the PS5 and PS4's libraries, along with that emulated "classics collection" on PSN but those run like dogshit and Sony doesn't see fit to fix any of them, so I don't really count those. Pic related.
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>>726053445
>who is this for?
wondering the same. i get that it's like a potato PC for poors but most poors already have a potato PC, so why would they buy a 2nd one?

to me it would make sense if it was like a solid next gen setup that people would abandon their busted ass aging PCs for, but i guess they couldn't make that and have it be affordable, so they ended up with something that isn't really powerful nor affordable either.

i'm glad they're trying but methinks it's just a very bad idea to release a new gaming platform. the tech bubble is driving up the price of all PC components, unemployment is high worldwide, we are in a weird fucked up bizarro-recession and there are on-going trade wars that further drive everyone to stay indoors and play old games on some busted ass setup.
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>>726052620
It wasn't competing with the Switch, it was trying to create a new market for handheld PCs without being beholden to Windows (which it did because now there's several other companies trying to make their own, better versions of the Deck). It being an underpowered piece of shit was a byproduct of newer games being unoptimized as hell, to the point that even the PS5 Pro doesn't run those games properly.
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>>726052004
>Experts say
you'd think Pozzygon would be happy about the 'achine considering the trailer prominently featured some busted tranny and his "asexual" genderblob partner who has had her sense of sexuality destroyed by SSRIs
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Will it only play steam games? Like is it locked to steam
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>>726053243
it's for PC games, unlike consoleslop i will be able to adjust settings and mod the games to my heart's content and anything that is so badly optimized it won't run on it (UE5 garbage) i just won't play

>>726055172
i think a HL title is more likely if the price point ends up not being attractive. they'd need something really huge to get people interested. doesn't matter if zoomers don't know what it is, they buy into hype so they'll get interested.

>>726056512
traditional consoles are locked down enshittified boxes that only allow you to do very specific things the corpos let you do. Gabecube doesn't have those restrictions. you buy it, you own it, you can do whatever you want with it. uninstall SteamOS, throw Windows on it and only play Epic Game Store games. Valve doesn't care and they aren't going to stop you. Sony on the other hand would kick up a fit if you modded a Playstation to play Xbox or Nintendo store games and probably sue you.
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just do this instead
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$500 without controller, $550 with controller for 512GB model?
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>>726053445
People with 10 year old PCs, who want to continue to play free to play games or pirate things.
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>>726053825
unlike the PS5, it has games
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>>726057476
shut the fuck up, stop noticing

welcome to the dead internet, the theory was right, have fun
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it's just an inferior xbox 720 which has steam integration
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>>726053825
>pc weaker than ps5
Good, the PlayStation and Xbox graphics whoring has been a disaster to the game's industry. Valve and Nintendo are trying to save it. Time for devs to wake up.
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>>726053243
It's not that modern devs don't want to optimise their games, it's that they don't know how and aren't smart enough to learn / figure it out.
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>>726059364
noooo then you have to optimize, have less bloat on your teams, and the processors can't handle all the effects like anti soul gas
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>>726052004
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>>726056843
"My colon has cancer and you don't even have blood in your stool" is not the argument you think it is, but the spirit of your argument is correct.
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>9 more years of faggots chiming in asking if itll run on their shit deck 2.0 or w.,e its called now
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>we now have the switch 2 and gabecube holding gaming back for the next 7+ years
Just wonderful.
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I don't understand this "competing with the Switch 2" sentiment. How is any console competing with it if it can't play the same games? If I want to play the new Call of Duty, I could get it on Steam, Xbox, or PS5. The platforms compete. But if I want to play Donkey Kong Bananza the only platform I can play it on is Switch 2. So no other consoles can compete with that.

I don't get it.
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>>726060072
What exactly is gaming being held back from?
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>>726052620
Yes, it’s stupid big, welded battery, plastic feel, unnecessary pad (no literally just use touch screen) and no stand like current handhelds.
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>>726052004
Yes. Eight corners, to be precise.
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>>726060473
Corporate America not will to give up money or fund better technology. We could have hologram tech but no. Helping billionaire get a yacht company to make yachts is more important.
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>>726052620
They cut corners then Switch 2 sold treble the lifetime sales of Steam Deck in 3 months
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>>726052004
So does that mean Steam Machine is not gonna be cube but instead ball shaped?
How will i keep it from rolling off my desk then?
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>>726052004
> Experts say
PS5 is equivalent to a 4070, 480p DLSS is 4K, human eye cannot perceive more than 30 fps, Nintendo Switch is safe and effective.
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>>726061504
>How will i keep it from rolling off my desk then?
Did you learn nothing from Katamari?
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>>726052253
Didn't the components come out to $425?
They can afford to sell it at $500 or $600 which is around what most mini form factor PC's with a windows license cost.
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>>726052004
>Polygon
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>>726052004
Then it wouldn't be a cube
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>>726056220
as if it wasn't obvious enough from the specs, they're using heavily kneecaped last gen tech that came out in 2022
They can call it Custom EXTWEEEEEME RDNA 3.9999999 but it's still RDNA 3
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>>726052004
The series S is $350 and PS5 is $500, so this seem to suggest the gabe cube is going to be around $400.
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>>726052163
Technically better than the RX 7400 that you can buy anywhere.
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>>726052004
>>726061718
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>>726052004
>Experts say
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>>726053445
>who is this for?
You have no idea how many people DISLIKE fucking with their PC in any way and they just want a box they can turn on and play game. That's it. Just play game when I turn [ON]. Almost like it's a console... wait a minute
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>>726060897
The steam deck doesn't have a welded battery.
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>>726053445
>>poorfags
>they would be better off upgrading their current pc with 2nd hand parts

Why lie like this
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>>726058738
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Valve doesn't even officially sell in third world countries where this would be a hit. This is a testament to the decline of america as a whole. Instead of a premium product worthy of the first world they get something that would feel right at home in some crappy battlestation in the Philippines, including a gaming plastic patio chair.
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>>726053825
Because PC enthusiasts are building their own systems + mini PC market has no shortage of high end machines at this point. It's affordable plug and play kind of deal for people who are new to PC gaming or want secondary system for living room TV.
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>>726059905
If a game runs on the steam deck, then that means it's at least somewhat optimized.
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I'm fine with cut corners if it's also cut price.
But in the last WAN show, Linus describes an exchange like this
>Linus: I'm disappointed you aren't considering subsidised, console-style pricing
>Valve: Well, define console pricing
>Linux: $500
>(silent but tense negative reaction)
which seems to confirm they want to price it closer to $800. That'd be a terrible mistake I think.
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>>726052004
>No DVD drive
How am I supposed to get my games into the thing?
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>>726063354
Buy a dvd drive and hook it up to one of its usb ports
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>>726052004
I aboslutely love how the Gabe Cube outed PCfags/pcbros as the hypocritical pieces of shit they are.
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>>726063089
umm valve is a small family company, would you think of the poor CEO who must own a $500 000 000 yatch
they CANNOT afford to be at a slight loss that would be countered by the thousands of new users who would buy games from steam to play on their console (they get a miniscule share of 30% of the profits from each sale, the smallest in the industry)
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>>726063089
I think there's a quiet assumption that all the people out there paying $1000-$2000 for phones, laptops, digital cameras, and so on can be coerced into buying gaming gear at the same price points.

At the same time "more than $500 means $800" is quite an assumption on your part. What if it's $600?
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>>726063543
It’s just tendies hiding behind pc
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>advertises itself as a PC gaming machine
>has always advertised itself as PC gaming machine
>suddenly it's competing with consoles
it's complimentary to their VR headset which hooks up wirelessly to the box. it's also a good replacement for what I have in my house, which is basically a last-gen living room tower that plays Steam games on the couch. It's not competing with consoles, because Steam doesn't have competition: it has blindspots, most of which are covered by all three hardware reveals. If it's anything like its been for everything else they've ever released, they're still only going to be advertised and sold on Steam. They've never gone to retail, and anything that shows up on Amazon or other sites has always been scalpers.
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>>726063681
If I'm secretly thinking $600 and someone says they think it should be $500, that's close enough that I wouldn't be upset about it. I'd start thinking about $550 or whatever.
If I'm thinking $800 and the guess is $500, that's far enough apart that there's a problem and the bad reaction makes more sense.
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>>726063852
>It's not competing with consoles
You might not think that it be but it do
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>>726063852
impressive how you could write all that while you have gabens cock in your mounth
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Gave casually forgetting everyone already has computers better than this
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>>726052004
Did we really need articles stating the obvious? How does anyone think they weren't cutting corners the moment specs were released? Even just looking at the console itself I knew right away they were going to keep the specs in line with what is out now.
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>>726061427
>>726056081
damn bros that sounds great, what games from a wide range of developers and genres can i play on the Switch 2 that i wont have to pay $80 each for?
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>>726063952
I mean in the sense that poor people can only afford one thing, but this is more for people who own a Steam library, but may want to expand into VR or share that library with a family member because it's easier than ever to transfer games between accounts. If a console player hasn't been swayed by PC gaming in the last ten years, it's not happening now.
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>>726053825
the point might actually be to play videogames and not wax about how the powerful hardware is able to render absolutely nothing important.
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>>726064057
>mounth
don't talk with your mouth full sweetheart
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>>726059405
This. AAA game studies especially are full of women and migrants who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. The day of the dorky White guys who grew up gaming and tinkering with PCs and made magic are long gone.
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>>726064139
More than I can count
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>>726064225
haha yeee..... u got me....
im eating cabanossi and pouring garlic sauce in my mouth while posting sorry, its the whiskey hunger.. it got me
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>>726052004
This is valve signalling that they think like 95% of popular games going forward will be able to run on a relatively low spec system and that most consumers don't really care much about playing at 4k. Which could be great for game development generally, since it might mean less unoptimized unrealslop and more focus on tight game design.

It's looking like we're probably already be knee deep the age of undeniable stagnation in graphics with future consoles only existing to push the same games (with timed exclusives) at a higher rendering resolution or adding portability/VR. Kind of sad but it seems like big generational jumps was just a millennial phenomenon.

I wouldn't be surprised if the PS6 is either heavily leaning into gimmicks or behaves more like a PS5 pro: pro.
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>>726059405
Then maybe it's time for AAA to die
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>>726052620
kind of... in regards to form factor, ergonomics and battery life.
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>>726052004
That would make it about equal with the Switch 2 in terms of performance, maybe a BIT better, but without any handheld capabilities.
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>>726064435
Yup. High end PCs lost the debate about a decade ago.
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PCs are holding back gaming
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>>726064080
You'd be surprised what thirdies are running these days.
This PC, if it ends up with specs on par with a PC with an R5 5600 and an RX 7600M, it'll be good enough to do 1440p60 in any pre- 2023 game on high settings and 1080p60 in current games on high settings.
For example, the PC in this video is basically what the Steam Machine will have, albeit a bit weaker:
https://youtu.be/iimfDdRBtGo'
And performance-wise, it's actually surprisingly decent, so I do think the Steam Machine will be a decent 1080p60 machine, with performance likely 10-15% weaker than a PS5, putting it basically on par with an RTX 2060/RX 6600.
Which, sadly, will still make it better than probably 50-60% of all PCs on Steam.
That said, they'll probably charge like $700+, which won't really be worth it.
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buy a bc250 and make your own steambox
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>>726064435
>I wouldn't be surprised if the PS6 is either heavily leaning into gimmicks or behaves more like a PS5 pro: pro.
It is, Cerny said they're done with raw performance and with the PS6 they're focusing on ray tracing and AI upscaling combining FSR 4 with PSSR.
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>>726063553
I AM A SLAVE TO CLUSSY
RYNKERBELLE IS MY GODDESS
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>>726052163
They probably got a good deal on AMD’s junk
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>>726064882
Gaming hit a wall, Switch 2 is as far as Nintendo can go for now, Valve is basing the Steam Machine on the average PCs, PS6 will only focus on ray tracing and AI upscaling, next Xbox is only 50% more powerful than the PS5 Pro, is using a PC GPU, the AT2 RDNA 5, using full Windows, and have their dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerator in their custom silicon do all of the work. There won't be another generational leap for a very long time, at least until ARM64 gets its shit together and fully replaces x86.
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>>726060072
this time its more that manufacturing is so bottled necked by a lack of manufacturing and high demand from tech companies inflating the ai bubble that gpus for consumers have been pushed out of their reach. A mid range build now is the price of a super high end build in 2016 at the start of crypto boom.
this makes cheaper systems more appealing, in the same way Tablets replaced pc sales after the 2008 crash.
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>>726053243
Leverage? Sure, how about Devs only pay 3% steam cut instead of usual 30% if purchase was made by an user with registered steam box, how's that for incentive to optimize for it? And the more it sells the more lucrative it gets
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>>726060072
I don't see how this is a bad thing.
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>>726065515
>AT2 RNDA5
What the fuck is this retard talking about?
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>>726058673
>360p gaming machine
Anon...
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If it's not $500 its dead on arrival. Thats the only chance they have at making this a mild success.

If its above that it will be hard to sell.

It should be $450-475 if we're being honest
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>>726065776
It's what's coming from AMD in 2027. The next Xbox is a PC, a Windows PC, but mimicking the SteamOS.
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>>726065736
good thing you're the only customer
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>>726052004
>waaah
>the specs on paper are worse than the ps5
okay and?
There's no games that legitimately require the use of so much horsepower. The only ones that do are a result of bad engines and lazy developers throwing excess power at their problems to brute force a solution
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>>726066117
UNDA is the next GPU architecture from AMD.
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>>726055949
You know the marketing doesn’t sell it as underpowered though they say powerful and tout 4k@60*. Many are going to see a machine very similar to a series x expecting it to perform on par with consoles. The price is going to be make it or break it. And you can call it user error but the marketing is predatory looking to trick those that don’t know better, the amount of people who are plugged into tech and understand the pros and cons are minimal compared to the clueless.
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>>726066050
≤$500 has to be the target. If Valve charges any more, they'll be stepping into luxury hardware territory, and we all know that this is not a high-end, luxury device. Plus, Valve can leverage their ubiquitous digital storefront to subsidize the Steam Machine.
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>>726066296
I was just asking in general. I already have a PC but I have a 3060ti right now
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>>726066441
RDNA 5 and UDNA are one and the same, they're just calling UDNA, RDNA 5 so it wouldn't cause confusion to retards.
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>>726053445
it's just a prebuilt PC, it's for people who buy prebuilt PCs

which is like, a weirdly large % of people who buy PCs, actually. so not exactly a niche audience
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gaming urinalism threads arguably worse than twitcap threads.
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>>726052004
I prefer the term "rounding edges"
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>>726066050
>If it's not $500 its dead on arrival.
If they're going after the console market. I agree, but if they're going after the people who don't own a pc and only own a "gaming laptop" I think they could go a little higher. The problem is steamdeck also fills that role but is cheaper and mobile. On the other hand they have a laptop with is also mobile and the machine is more powerful and once you factor in a steamdeck dock and maybe a controller and upgrading the M.2 2230 ssd the steamdeck isn't that cheap.

Steam fanboys will buy a million or so regardless of price and performance.
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>>726066690
then no, if you don't want to play the games that people want to play it should be fine
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>>726056386
>Valve just released the Trump of consoles
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>>726056512
you can emulate Playstation 2 games and more on Gabecube
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>>726059405
>it's that they don't know how and aren't smart enough
you retards have no idea, it's an entirely financial issue and always has been.
people will still buy the game if it runs at 30fps, the game will still break sales records if it runs at 30fps.
why would the Company pay it's devs to optimize the game when that work essentially leads to no more revenue? they have to pay these guys $100k a year each, if they're a AAA with 200 devs that's $20m a year to "optimize" for no extra sales.
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>>726060897
>no literally just use touch screen
you can't click the touchscreen
and you're gonna smudge the screen
plus now that we have steam controller 2, the pads are there for feature parity, notice how switch/switch 2 games pretty much never use the touchscreen because everything has to work in docked mode too
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>>726052004
Why is valve forcing so much console war shit? First on PC and now actual consoles
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>>726064435
and they're pretty much right since AAA is in the throes of collapse right now...Ubishit is dead, EA and Blizzard are dying. Steam's biggest sellers are tending to be low-budget Indie FoTM hits or aging free2play games.
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>>726052004
wait until journos learn about the switch
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>>726068867
PlayStation and Xbox both have to fall to save both western and eastern gaming. Without them, the graphics whoring will end because Nintendo and Valve will put a cap on how far these retarded devs can go on their games. Also, without AAA money, games return to indies and AAs. Take Two is the last one, I'm waiting for the fall.
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>>726066303
>okay and?
>There's no games that legitimately require the use of so much horsepower.

PS6 is 2 years out max. The worry is you'll see a steeper bump in system requirements than usually some time in the next 2-4 years and with the system being not upgradable it will be obsolete sooner than you think. If this thing is 800 buck for twice that you can get a strix halo mini pc or wait an extra year and a bit and get a PS6 or Xbox pay the same amount and get better performance.
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>>726056835
>selling it at a loss
No way, fag. They were even built to order exclusively for a long time.
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>>726052004
>Why isn't valve wasting money like these big companies that are going out of business!?
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watch when it releases and can run old shit like GTA5 at 60fps 1080p, /v/ will be cheering for it
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I find it hard to understand people denigrate a pc's specs
its a pc?
Laptops exist and some people buy those despite running games poorly
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>>726052004
>built to a price point
Well I mean, that's obvious, right? No one is expecting Valve to release a $3000 top of the line prebuilt gaming PC no one will buy, right?
Still with the choice of words in this article ("cutting corners"), this journo must be an ESL or some sort of massive retard or shill who is getting paid to shittalk Valve. Usually that phrase comes with negative connotations. People are going to read that headline and think this console has been made of tinfoil or outsourced to some shady chink company.
Like, you wouldn't say Xbox, Sony, and Nintendo are "cutting corners" to make their products accessible to the masses, why would you use this phrase for Valve?
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Do you think microsoft will do more than shill and make articles like this to sabotage the steam pc?
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>>726069357
Not him, but AAA is pretty much on its last legs, the PS6 is all but guaranteed to cost more than this and the Xbox even more. Nintendo and Valve exist to save gaming from Sony's and Microsoft's retardation.
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>Cutting corners is when you build a PC equivalent to what 70% of Steam's userbase uses
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To get a PC with these specs with 512GB, I'm getting around $550. I believe that's the price this is going to be. It would allow Valve to release the Deck 2 for just $500.
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>>726055185
Imagine getting to pet and hold all those baby creatures
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>>726056081
>more powerful and cheaper
Lmao
Maybe SLIGHTLY more powerful. Sure as FUCK isnt cheaper. I fucking WISH it was.
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>>726070395
For the last 15 year pc fags have been screaming how console gaming is holding gaming back.

Gabe releases an underpowered non upgradable console.
>AAA is dead. Graphics don't matter. Thank you daddy Gabe.

You guy remember how much shit this board gave the series S for holding up the developers of Baldur's Gate 3.
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>>726074161
But AAA ruined gaming, that's why I want this to happen
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>>726073467
Correction, $550 would be for the Steam Machine without the controller, with it, the 512GB model is probably going to be $600, I also forgot about Wi-Fi 7 which would push the Deck 2 to $550 in 2028.
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>>726063681
>>726063941
NO ONE is actually paying $1000-$2000 for a phone
They're buying out a plan where they pay a small price every month for a few years
Every normalfag does this with phones
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This thing is not going to sell even 2 million
Steam Deck was sold for 300 for most of it's life and it still ended up doing only about 3 million?
Steam Machine costs 700-800 for shitty specs and doesn't even come with a controller
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>>726053243
This unless Gabe puts his foot down on devs. Tell them to fix unreal slop.
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>>726068635
We have cellphones that dont do that, this is Valve’s problem not the player.
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>>726056530
>Devs haven't optimized the console versions of their games since the PS2 era.
Devs build the game from the ground up with console specs in mind and make sure I runs on console because more than half of their sales will come from console. They don't optimize shit in the sense that it is poorly optimized but in another sense what they are doing is optimizing for the console. Which is why PC launches are statistically more likely to be laggy and stuttery on similar spec'd pc hardware.
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>>726053825
Post the comparisons?
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If this is $700, I can see it more competing with next gen home consoles, but all that does is reinforce my prediction that the home console industry is fucked and gaming is going handheld because a base price of $700 to $1000 for the higher-end model is just insane. Yeah, I'll wait on the Steam Deck 2.



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