Which are you getting and which are you skipping?Are you migrating from a console?Any hopes for future future of the ecosystem?
>>726055412Frame, probably the controller. I don't really have a need for the Steam Machine, although it would be fun to have a Linux box in my living room.
I'm not getting any because only a clueless fanboy or console gamer would buy this crap. Value should focus on making more games.
>>726055412I'd definitely get a Steam Machine if I didn't already have a console and low end PC.The VR headset looks amazing so that's what I'd get. If I didn't get motion sickness from VR.So really, out of those 3 the only one I could maybe get is the controller. But my console controller works just fine.../end blog
>>726055412None. I need a new pc, but I'll just build one in 2027.
I'll get GabeCube because I want to get off Windows and this should be an easy way to try Linux SteamOS... also get a controller to see how the track pads work
Already have a PC and deck so I'm definitely skipping the gabecube.I'll happily buy the VR set for 400. I'll begrudgingly do it for 500. The controller is a day one buy if it's anything under 100
>>726055412I was considering gifting a friend a steam machine bc they've been desperate for an upgrade but it's nonupgradable so it's a maybe-maybe not situationFrame looks interesting but I can just stream to the headset I already have so it's probably not worth the price if I just wanna play whatever tech demos are out there for a cumulative 10 hours
>>726055412skipping vrskipping the pcgetting the controller
I've been wanting to try VR and was waiting for the index 2 ready to drop 1k eurodollars but I guess now it's the frame instead so I'll wait and see for pricing and reviews.Also how is for people who need glasses? Does the frame design have enough room or do you need special inserts?
>>726055843Windows users that doesn't plan on switching because I no reason to switch. But you are an idiot because Bazzite is easy to install and get running. Less than an hour, I had it up, running my GOG and Steam games. Just switch now and stop being a dumbass.
the frame i was going to build a pi cyberdeck but with the specs on the frame running linux already as well as the pcie ports up front id just turn this into a mobile workstationspecs on it already are pretty much on par with a OG legion go
>>726056006usually they'll come with a spacer thar goes around the eye area for glasses
>>726056006There's enough room for glasses if you really need to, but it sacrifices the experience. They make prescription lenses for like 50 bucks that are much preferable.
>>726056045I dont want to fuck around with trying to do a dual OS install on an existing Windows machine... what is Bazzite
>>726056228Fine that's a fair reason..
The Steam Deck justifies its existence because it's a portable PC handheld, but I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why anyone would buy a Steam console when they most likely already own a PC.
controller yessteam machine maybe (unless the price is too gross)steam frame nah
>>726055412I'm going to buy both Steam Machine and the headset, mostly for the headset though.
>>726055412If I want to do VR I'll consider the Frame first, but the Deck would be the most useful to me by far and I haven't bought it yet so.
>>726056329They're trying to compete with PS5 as a multiplat box for normies >>726056228Desktop fork of SteamOS before steam machine became a thing. I was considering it for my new system but unfortunately Linux is a meme
Probably all of them, but overtime.Will probably still spring for the Gabecube just because it comes with a controller and finally retire my laptop. I don't need an all powerful machine, just something to run my library. So far, the Deck hasnt had any issues running everything I want to play.
>>726056329>when they most likely already own a PC.They don't. It's a streamline into valve games for console gamers without the confidence for a PC but have always admired its perks, which is a niche but lucrative market. That genre of gamer also extends to your 13-14 year olds who would normally buy prebuilts and alienware laptops
>>726055412nobody has any idea because no prices. Every hint at the price is disappointing. The room got grim when Linus suggested the cube should be $500 to justify itself in a world where the ps5 exists. "Below index pricing" suggests the frame is closer to $1000 than $500 for a device with a quest 3 tier display stack. Maybe you can afford the controller, but they put TMR sticks, capacitive touch, and IR LEDs in it so don't expect it to be priced like the first steam controller.
>>726056329It's a console.Their concept is pretty clear. An alternative to PS5 (similar performance). With a plug and play approach (optimized "verified" games) plus the ability to mess around with settings or play the endless amount of games not available on other consoles. Plus, no paid online.Now the issue right now is>the plug and play experience is NOT going to be *as* good as what you get on a PS5 or Xbox right now (this will improve with future hardware and software iterations)>most console gamers will already have a current-gen console and established library by this point, consoles were released 5 years agoThat's my perspective as a console gamer.To be clear, I do think this concept is the future of console gaming and kind of inevitable, really.In the console of the future you'll be able to have the curated experience you'd expect from it, but also have the ability to mess around if you want to.
>>726055412Got the Steam Deck on launch, will be buying the GabeCube and Steam Frame as well. If I get the controller it'll be because it was bundled with the others.
>>726055412Controller is a day 1 buy. I don't have any need for the cube considering my PC is probably a little more powerful, but I might get it anyways depending on the price, the idea of having a mini PC lying around is fun.
>>726056329Do you think most people own gaming PCs? It seems like you indisputably just said that. I guess you mean people interested in it would already have a gaming PC, but you said they shouldn't be interested in it, so that can't be it either.
I've never liked the actual PC experience beyond what it does for gaming. If the controller feels as good as keyboard and mouse, I'll probably get whatever future iteration of the gabecube outpaces my current PC
>>726055412I might get the Frame depending on the price.
>>726057118Yes, that's exactly what I mean. None of the people I know who moved to PC have ever gone back to console. Consoles basically don't exist in their world anymore, so I don't see how a Steam console is going to change that. I doubt people will buy it just out of curiosity unless it's cheap which I also highly doubt.
>>726056329I can only justify my use case. My machine is old and huge. I can probably still churn it out a few more years with the types of games I play, but I am in the market for a replacement. Steam Machine got enough juice for my needs that I'm comfortable replacing my machine. Big bonus is its small foot print and not having a tumor external power supply.
>>726055412Skipping all of them
>>726055412Depends entirely on costs.
>>726055412What core features define Steam Machinen
>>726058268>Consoles basically don't exist in their world anymore, so I don't see how a Steam console is going to change that.But it's also a PC. It just has a console like mode for simplicity.
>>726055412How much is Steam Frame going to cost $800? I predict not many people, less than 1.5 million
>>726058507It is a pc
>>726055412Frame might be interesting depending on price (ie <$600), controller I will most likely get because hybrid controls would be useful for some games
>>726058560It's pointless. Mini PCs already exist that you can switch into Steam Big Picture mode on. They cost under 400 with 16GB ram. Steam machine is less powerful than a PS5, there is no definitive angle to it
>>726055412>PC is very old and dying>PS3 controller have started to drift>been interested in VR for a long timeIf they have a good package deal I will probably get them all.
>>726055412I have purchased every single piece of valve hardware since the start. I like valve. I will continue to do so.
>>726058746the mini pcs you're talking about are much shittier and can't even dissipate fifty watts
>>726058589VR consumer base are freaks800 is nothing to them. They dump money on incomplete proof of concepts if it means they can track their nose hair with extreme accuracy.
>>726058746>Steam machine is less powerful than a PS5The only way in which it is less powerful than the stock PS5 is it has 28 CUs to the 36 on the PS5's GPU.However, the PS5 is RDNA2 architecture whereas the Steam Machine is RDNA3.Also - the PS5 clocks its GPU at 2.2 GHz maximum, which it can only sustain for very short periods before thermal profiles force it to clock back down. Meanwhile, the Steam Machine runs its GPU at 2.4 GHz sustained.
>>726058746The nearest equivalent to the Gabecube specs wise is $2k
I’m getting the GabeCube to replace my 780ti machine if it works well with Quest 3. I already have the original Steam Controller but I might replace it with the new one if it’s reasonably priced
Steam fanboys are excited for these amazing brand new features that have been available for years on other hardware
>>726055412I'll get frame and controller because it will let me play it outside (I live on 50 acres in the woods) without exposing my young children to screens.
>>726058934From what I have seen those people are upset with the Frame because it uses Inside Outside tracking and it can't track their nose hairs.
I'm getting none of themvalve makes things that are weird and uncomfyI already got memed into buying index controllers and they are incredibly retarded ergonomically. but I'd rather keep those and get a bsb2e than start from scratch with a steam framealso they should make normal GOOD controllers like dualshock 4 work in steamVR overlay. not buying another $100 controller to do this
>>726058934$800 is like a days wage. Not really a significant amount in the grand scheme of things.
>>726056962>the plug and play experience is NOT going to be *as* good as what you get on a PS5 or Xbox right nowi don't own a steam deck but i watched a setup video on youtube and honestly it's super straight forward>select language & timezone>choose wifi network>create steam account then you're finishedthis is in comparison to the new xbox handheld's god awful new user experience, where you're hopping between windows 11/armory crate/xbox app updates while trying to not accidentally purchase a microsoft office subscription.
>>726056329Buy a steam pc to get away from windows and if you already have linux you’re winning
I can finally replace my living room setup without needing to recable everything
>>726059170No that's only /v/ fake enthusiasts who don't actually know what they are talking about
Them opting for such bad hardware and specs for the steam machine make me unwilling to trust them when it comes to controllers or their new VR headset. I also don't plan on ever getting into VR gaming. You can probably already find a controller better than what valve is planning to launch. Like one of the dualsense alternatives that has hall effect sensors.
>>726059731The steam link is capped at 1080p60 and has bad latency. It's not worth using. You are better off just getting a really long cable.
>>726059895If they need to sacrifice pushing the industry forward in graphics if it means keeping PC wireless w/ foviated streaming cheap, I trust them. However if the headset drops and is a grand, they will have had no reason not to at least give us OLED panels ffs
>>726055412I will be purchasing a gabecube and controller. I already have a quest 3 and have no complaints with it for vr. I don't play much anyway.
>>726055412'eck is a noSteam Machine is a noFrame is a maybe price depending but probably a noI probably will get the controller.
Until a cube comes out that outperforms my current PC, id rather just wait for the next Steam Deck.
'Oob on 'ube
I will get the controller 100%. I hate playing with KBM so the steam controller might just work as a jack of all trades inpug method with its track pads. Not sure with Steam Machine. If it's 400$ sure but only 6x Steam Deck performance sounds weak as hell for a 150W console. It needed to be atleast 12x Steam Deck GPU performance.
>>726060413I hope an 'oober comes along and there's an autistic rivalry between him and 'ecker.
>>726059972>Just getting a really long HDMI cable>I'm giving you this useless advice without thinking about Passive and Active differences and distance limitations because I'm a fucking simpleton>And a really long USB cable for your peripherals >And a USB hub to connect those peripherals>Oh wait, USB cables cap out at 10 feet!>Just buy repeaters bro>Just drown in cablesYeah, thanks for giving me obvious info 10 years later, you stupid fuck
>>726059895>You can probably already find a controller better than what valve is planning to launch. Like one of the dualsense alternatives that has hall effect sensors.There is no alternative with track pads, 4 back bumpers, and all the gyro tech built in. The only thing like it that exists is the Steam Deck itself if you use it via Remote Play.
GabeCube and another controller. My children are finally showing interest in games so I've barely been able to use my 'eck recently. Also contemplating ditching my tower completely and replacing it with the cube and a Mac mini plugged into a KVM.
>>726061021It also has a neat wireless receiver/charger. PC bluetooth is a nightmare.
>>726055412Skipping>FrameIt actually is the closest I've come to wanting VR. I just don't care for VR. Not a knock on the product. VR us just not as comfy as sitting and looking at a screen,>Maybe the Steam machineDepends on the price and performance, but I have a PC right now and don't have much need for a portable PC, however I am interested if it is cheap and will use it as a living room roku replacement. But honestly, Dbrand may have made me buy this just because they are making a companion cube skin https://dbrand.com/shop/limited-edition/companion-cube>O own 2 steam decks>Am actually super excited for the new Steam controlerOver all solid line up and they got me wanting 3/4 of their offerings
>buy steam controller for 5 dollars when valve was getting rid of all of them >never use it because i have no use for it>just sold it for 110 bucks since i knew steam controllers would be on peoples minds againthank you gaben.
>>726061320Honest regret not buying a couple because I like them. Aside from feeling cheap and having no weight, the ability to customize them was phenomenal.
>>7260554122 steam controllersskip on everything else until the next deck hardware refreshthere may be a small chance i go for the steam machine if my pc dies just because there are some nice benefits to homogenized hardware like precached shaders, also super tiny form factor in this case, but only 1 DP and HDMI isn’t enough for me
>>726061487they were cool devices, but i dont bother to do what they were meant for (adapting MKB controls to controller) and didnt find them super comfortable.but yeah 5 bucks was a great deal for them back in the day.
>>726061636Understandable but yeah, it was a hell of a good deal
>>726056329https://youtu.be/C9qJwy_wwK03:23
>>726055412Skipping them all.Already have a PC that's more powerful.Have a VR headset, and only ever use it for VR porn once in a while.Got the first steam controller when it was $5, but it's shit. Fills a niche which doesn't exist, and while the new one looks a bit better, it still seems worse than 1st party controllers.Don't use public transportation and don't have IBS, so no need for a handheld.
>>726061021Even the standard dualsense comes with a touch-pad you can use (even if it's not ideally positioned for regular use).
>>726055412if they announce another steam deck itteration then i'll probably wait for that, if not, i'll get the cube. headset is a big maybe. >Are you migrating from a console?psfag who got a deck instead of ps5 >hopesi just want valve to keep making hardware. the biggest hope would be for the cube to be a massive success so that devs start benchmarking their games on lower power hardware instead of more ue5 stutterslop
>>726062208that’s not even close to the same thing. the trackpads are fully integrated with steam input to map to literally anything
>>726062208>It has one so it counts and that's good enoughYou're such a fucking faggot anon
>>7260554124 controllers and two Steam Frames for me and my wife using the money Gabe gave me last month when he changed how CS skins work changing my 50 dollars of skins into 2K of skins. At least so far, not all of them have sold. Free VR and free controllers. Based Gaben.
>>726055412Getting the GabeCube if it isn't an arm and a leg. My poor imouto has been playing on my shitty hand-me-down consoles and she games more than I do, so I can give it to her and just borrow it when I want to play something.Anyways, do any Deck bros know if SteamOS works well with multiple Steam accounts?
>>726062451you can use steam input with dualshock 4
>>726062573Works fine.
>>726062607no, not to configure the touchpad, and even if you could, there is only 1 and it’s not in a good position for regular use
>>726062238Deck 2 in 2028... maybe
>>726062767Then I should finally get the OLED, I've waited and it's just 1k bucks
>>726055412>No DVD driveHow am I supposed to get my games into the thing?
>>726062703yes you canjust double checkedyou enable steam input and playstation steam input support
>>726055412Shut the fuck up tranny no one’s getting this shit
>>726055412Getting both the Steam Frame and the Controller 2. I'm planning on building a mini/home theatre PC around the 9070xt I have lying around. Hoping to build something relatively small and console esque as a case. I might install some user friendly version of Linux, or SteamOS onto it so I have complete parity with my steamdeck.
>>7260630721k bucks in what monopoly money? Get a z1e device instead.
>>726062663You haven't had any problems with game saves?
>>726063257Canadian, price of the deck+dock+taxes. I don't think I need a Lenovo for the games I play, but you might be right if the price is the same.
>>726063103buy a floppy drive, pirate steam games on your other high-end gaming PC and then copy them onto the floppy disks so you can move them to your steam machine.
>>726063484Unless you have to have oled and trackpads, you can probably find a z1e at a better price. You can even throw steam os or bazzite on it if that's your thing
>GetController>SkipEverything else
>>726063118they must have added that recently because its the first time seeing center trackpad as an option and I pay attention to this shit. point still stands; comparing the two is like oranges to apples. it’s like saying a sedan and a pickup are the same because technically they both have trunks. they aren’tI use a DS4 as my default controller and I’ve been dying for a steam controller 2.0 since the second I first held a deck
Depends what games will Gabe release for VR.
>>726055412It depends on the pricetag, I could get all of them if they are cheap enough
>>726055412Waiting for the Steam Deck 2 which I'll have alongside my Switch 2, don't need anything else.
The 7 year old 2080ti beats the steam machine GPU by around 70%. Kinda insane how you could have bought that 7 years ago and still be relatively fine gaming wise even today. While the steam machine will be E-waste at launch.
>>726058507No one cares about your chuddy meltdown.
>>726056329Until early 2025 my gaming pc was a turd compared to the steam machine in terms of specs. The upgrade in 2025 cost me over 2000 USD.Do you really think there is a lack of people with shit pcs, no pc at all or thousands of dollars to spend on one?
>>726055412The only Valve hardware I care about is the controllerWhat I actually care more for is SteamOS becoming the dominant OS on chinkhelds over Android
None because I already have PC that beats the deck.
>>726064857wow nice, you beat the handheld that runs pc games at like 10W with this e-waste
>>726065117It also beats the steam machine that will be $700, steamie cultists
>>726065194whatever you say
>>726055412I might pick up the Steam Machine if it isn't too expensive. I use my Steam Deck in part as a console to bring to siblings homes. The Steam Machine would replace it for that so I can play more demanding things with them
My balls are itchy hehe anyways any cool roblox games
>>726065194No it doesn't. That's delusional.
>>726064857nice. Steam machine will never be this cheap. I don't understand why you would buy a steam machine when you can get comparable pc hardware at half the price. Steamies btfo.
>>726055552literally this
>>726066269Too bad it's not actually comparable. That CPU doesn't support avx 512, the GPU is weaker and the PSU is shit.
>>726063575Welp that's what I got, a rog ally x for 800+tax.
>>726055412honestly none. but not because I dislike any of them or think they're going to be bad. >don't play games when im out so dont want a deck.>no interest in vr so dont want a frame>already have a pc that can play everything i want to so no steam machineonly one i'd get would be a controller if the one i have dies on me. it does look good.
Maybe the controller depending on price. I use my deck docked 90% of the time and it has no wake on bluetooth which is kind of annoying.
>>726063314>You haven't had any problems with game saves?Nope, my wife and I share a Steamdeck.
>>726063314Seconding the anon. It works like any other device with multiple profiles. Set up your profile, sign in and it knows what is and isn't yours. With Steam, you can play whatever software is installed on your device if the other profile is in your family plan without hassle. My wife has awful taste.
>>726067905Get your paws off her, N*GGER.
>>726067905>>726070621I keep seeing this furry. Who is sheAsking for my dick
>>726055412'eck: Already have oneController: AbsolutelyGabeCube: Skipping probably, the 'eck+'ock is enough for my needsFrame: Maybe, likely skipping though, VR doesn't seem to be meant to become a thing for now>Any hopes for future future of the ecosystem?Proton getting better, GabeCube becoming a serious competitor to PS5.
>>726066250Steam machine will use a 7600M a 85% binned RX 7600.Thats about RX 6600 performance. Its literally on par. Also 5700XT still has amazing drivers for linux with the kernel and latest versions of mesa.
Would buy a Steam Deck Mini day 1
>>726065194Why would the Steam Machine cost more when they can sell it as a loss leader?
>>726055412I have the Deck, and I don't see myself getting anything before the Deck 2 unless the Machine is cheap / better than expected / goes on heavy discount.It's pretty fucking gay that you can't have a reasonable discussion about this on /v/, but the Deck is genuinely the best gaming device I've owned in decades.
>>726055412Definitely the controller, might get a couple if they're good, and definitely the frame depending on price; I want to support the frame as a full Linux machine but if it's 900 dollars it will have to wait, I still need to eat after all. No need for the steam machine, but it may work as a living room device, I'm not sold on it yet. Things are looking good for VR, Linux, and open hardware.
>>726072104They are not going to sell it at a loss. They are not even trying to compete against consoles like the PS5, let alone the upcoming PS6.
>>726055412Frame, controller.Potentially a Gabe Cube for my little sister, if I can figure out how to stream from it to her craptop.
>>726072415Okay, then why do you think they will sell it at double the price of the single components?
>>726055412I've been needing multiple upgrades for my pc for years now but both pricing surges and real life priorities has delayed that to the point where a gabebox is actually a pretty good upgrade over what I have now, especially since im not a retard who plays post 2020 AAA releases
>the steam machine is for console players not you, who already has a gaming PCs!ok but how the fuck is some console gaming retarded normie going to hear about the steam machine and why would they care about it when it's worse than a PS5.
What is the streaming between the Gabecube and deck going to be like?Better than streaming from my PC to my Chromecast? Or is it all the same shit?
>>726072104Steam machine BOM is 240-440USD, so it will sell for 450-550 max. The more interesting breakdown is the SteamFrame which is going to be SHOCKINGLY cheap. Pricing is absurdly easy because every item in the kit is an off the shelf tray part except the SoC which is a 2 year old flagship. BOM is 425-745 for the headset assuming Valve is ran by jackasses like me who source everything directly from a manufacturers' Shenzen storefront and is paying 2023 launch pricing on the SoC (170-200 OEM). As we already know is Valve does supply and logistics in house we can safely assume this device will be 400-600 depending on how much profit they want to make. I can't WAIT for the inevitable Steam Pocket. A super portable ARM system like the common chinkhelds but good because the FEX emulation (that Valve help write) won't be bogged down with spyware (Gamehub/winlater).
>>726072654Possibly word of mouth. It a bunch of dudes out there know what their friends like, they could set up a gaming session in a box basically, which looks cooler and is more convenient than building a PC just to do that.
>>726072104If Valve sold it at a loss or even breakeven, a lot of small and medium businesses willing to do a little of their own IT will buy it as their office PCs and pay the cost of Windows to replace SteamOSThen Valve has lost money since those hardware sales won't lead to game sales
>>726055412I don't want anyhow bout an expensive beast of a pc?
>>726072654Youtubers/X/Instagram/Tiktok/Whatever the fuck zoomer use shills
>>726055412I'm very open to getting the Steam Machine but it has to be a decent price. What I really like about it is that it's just a small box, and not a behemoth like the PS5. I still haven't gotten a PS5, and it's not like I play the most technically demanding games so it'd probably be a decent fit.
the controller
>>726055412I am a low-mid range PCfag (i5/3060 12GB):Headset looks kind of cool, I've messed with WMR VR before and I only stopped cause the controllers broke and nobody sold replacements. If Valve is planning to price it similarly to the Index they can get fucked. When I moved from consoles to PC I adapted to mouse & keyboard and never looked back It blows my mind there's a large enough market for people still using controllers on PC for the Valve controller to be a big deal. The Gabecube console? I don't need it, if it's $500 I'll grab one for the novelty.
>>726073649>It blows my mind there's a large enough market for people still using controllers on PC for the Valve controller to be a big deal.The trackpads really are a game changer.
>>726073067>I can't WAIT for the inevitable Steam Pocket. A super portable ARM system like the common chinkhelds but good because the FEX emulationIt would be cool, but does does ARM Linux run Proton or Steam? I doubt much of the Steam library could run on the GabeBoy, so they would have less returns from store sales.
>>726073894>but does does ARM Linux run Proton or SteamIt doesn't. SteamOS ARM uses FEX as its emulation layer. SteamOS on ARM can also natively play ALL APKs regardless of the version of Android they were built for. FEX is like magic. The Chinks got wind of Valve's commits to the github project early and repackaged it into spyware called Gamehub and Winlater. Check out videos of how PC games run in those to get an idea of how well it works. But imagine with a competent while company doing the work instead of thieving chinamen.
>>726055412>Any hopes for future future of the ecosystem?
>>726073106>muh random company will buy them memeliterally just limit account amounts to 2 or 3
>>726073894>I doubt much of the Steam library could run on the GabeBoyWaaaaaay more than you think. Check out the Konker handheld that just came out, the highest spec one with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (same as in the Frame) for an idea. But keep in mind that this is a half-ass chinkheld implementation of FEX from Chinese people that didn't develop it (Valve).
>>726074410Making a burner Steam account is free anon.
>>726055412Already have a PC better than the Steam Machine so I'll probably buy the controller for my Deck and pretend it's a pro controller for when I dock it.I'm not sure if I'll pickup the Steam Machine yet. Like I said, already have a PC that is more powerful, but it's also double the size and clunky to move around. I use it hooked to a PC. I'll see what happens later this gen. Hopefully they released a second one in a few years that's better than the PC I have now, if not I'll just stay Deckin'.
>>726074679*I use it hooked to a monitor.
>>726074627you do understand that they'd flag the 10000 new accounts to the same IP, same person same bank account same credit card and notice the 10000 steam machines going to the same shipping address right?
>>726073106Oh shit these things would be kinda cool for a completely illegal gaming cafe.
>>726055412I'll probably get the controller and I'm considering the VR headset
>>726074190>>726074571I'm not particularly technical anon, is FEX an amd64->arm64 translation later like MacOS' Rosetta? If so can we assume Valve could potentially release the Deck 2 on an ARM CPU?
>>726055412Honestly the frame if priced right sounds crazy, you can play anything anywhere. The steam machine is good too for a second pc if its like 400.
>>726074410How does that solve losing money on 3 x (n number of businesses) willing to do this?For every business who buys 3 loss leading Steam machines, you need 3 gamers to make up both the business-bound machines and the loss leading of the gamers' own machinesThat's an impossible sell from Valve's perspective
>>726075276Yes it is a translation layer that allows running x86-64 code on ARM64 and it works incredibly well. You can play GTAV on a 200 dollar chinkheld.
>>726055412To be honest with you, this is my current gaming device.240p output without much hassle is quite golden
>>726075781Steam decks are literally being sold to business and they ain't complainingDisney buys them for their star wars ribotsUkraine buys them for the automated turretsAnd yet, valve sells them at a loss99% of businesses don't need powerful PCs they get 200$ mini PCs by bulk from Lenovo with eons more support and warranty, there's literally no benefit for enterprise to buy these
>>726055412Def controller and if I can afford the Frame I'll grab that too. The ergos of my Quest 2 suck because it keeps falling off my face and it's already flaking off after MINIMAL use, I do not like fiddling with sidequest or facebook's dev page to sideload shit, and using it on my wifi and linux PC to stream PC-VR games, while playable, is a mess with terrible bitrate.
>>726055412Frame and Controller. Don't know what they're going for with the Machine honestly. I might've gotten one but I think it's only slightly more powerful than my current rig.
>>726056228a fork of Fedora Linux which has most of SteamOS' features and more.
>>726055412Already have Deck, getting ControllerMAYBE Frame
>>726055612Fuck you
>>726055867Bruh the Frame is going to be 1200 easily
>>726055412I probably would have gotten the Frame if I didn't already have a Quest 3. By the way, to anyone who says there's nothing to play in VR, UEVR makes every game made in Unreal Engine playable in VR. I'm about to live out my supernatural anime high school fantasy life in Persona 3, if you'll excuse me.
>>726055412Honestly the frame if priced right sounds crazy, you can play anything anywhere. The steam machine is good too for a second pc if its like 400. >>726079656Nah i don't think its gonna be that much.
>>726055612>I'm not getting anyk. didn't need the rest of your retarded opinion
>>726059731Didn't Valve stop making these because they realized any old Android box could do it? I guess the only problem is the shitty bluetooth implementation on most Android devices.
>>726074263a board to share VR stuff could be fucking awesome. i hope we actually get a good wayland compositor for VR some day.
The best PC controller already exists
>>726082754It's like saying Logitech G400 is best gaming mouse (it's not). Stop living in 2007.
https://jiggie.fun/J6F7HN Solve me help
>>726055412I actually want the cube just because I never had the patience to build a gaming PC
>>726059203>like dualshock 4>good
Want frameWant controllahIdk about cube
>>726055412Machine and Controller.Frame depends on the cost of everything.
>>726055412>FrameNo interest in VR>MachineNo interest in a second PC, mine's way better>ControllerActually looks neat, but I already have a Razer Wolverine Pro V3Hello Mr Marketer
>>726059123you're living my dream. i admire you're raising your kids that way
>>726082482They stopped making them once android devices were decent enough and just turned it into a software app. Most Smart TVs has it as an app you can download now too so its even built right in. I know you can do it on Hisense TVs.I haven't made changes to my set up since it still works fine for my use cases and my controller is already sync'd up. Smart TVs are also gay and I'm not buying a streaming stick when I already have the Link, wired. Anyone that says to "JuSt uSe A lOnG cAbLe" is retarded. How the fuck you gonna get any device to work with just an HDMI cable? And they only sell set cable lengths. You either have a really long HDMI cable you have to wrap up and hide the extra length somewhere or its too short and you have to increase the length with another set length cable and a female to female connector. What do you do with a Cat6 cable? You just fucking cut it and terminate it at the exact length you need. You could just use HDMI to Ethernet transmitters, but now you're introducing multiple points of failure each with their own problems. I've used those professionally and I hate the fucking things.The Cube just seems like a good replacement option because I can finally play things natively instead of streaming it.
>>726085641I do kinda regret not grabbing one when they were clearing stock. Android + Bluetooth controllers was never a good experience for me.
Only interested in the frame really, but thats dependent on price.
>>726085726I bought like 10 because they were so cheap. If one fails, I have back ups. They haven't failed yet, but I've installed 3 of them in other rooms for light usage like watching my pirated shows. I should probably sale them now. I bought them cheap enough that I would still make a profit off the sale of just one. The liquidation sale was insane.
If I want to game on my TV, I'll just wait for the Steam Deck 2, get its dock, and then get the new Steam Controller. There is no longer a need for a living room box, especially one that is $700 and over. Handhelds finally being able to play the same ecosystem of games while being able to dock on your TV and, in some cases, hook on to your PC killed high-end gaming. It's simply not worth the price unless you really care about resolution and frame rate.
>>726055412Maybe the Frame if the price is right, and the controller too because I want a good gyro controller. The box...I don't know why they aren't just releasing a new Deck and bundling it with a dock and the controller. I guess they wanted more power than they could fit in the Deck but having it be a handheld gets it away from comparisons to gaming PCs and PlayStations.
>>726056627Does it play well with Nvidia GPUs?
>>726086526steamos would be kinda shit as a daily driver because of the way they do system updates by fully replacing all the system libraries. which also means you would be reinstalling nvidia drivers every update since i doubt they're included in the standard image.
>>726058507An upgrade for people that still use picrel.
>>726055412so how good is the box really compared to a PC?can I run pirated shit on it?Haven't bought a console since PS2
>>726087602>so how good is the box really compared to a PC?
>>726087917haven't this gimmick been tried a few times before?
>>726059731I miss the old steam controller aesthetics, they should've done gloss where you aren't touching and kept the colored buttons
>>726059352Median wage is like $30 an hour. I just don't know if those people that have a shelf full of headsets are out of their mind or they make so much money and they don't want to buy anything else
>>726063103Try "add a non steam game" and put in the CD key or get a usb drive. You can rip images and keep them on an sd card. There's so many options.
>>726088483usb disk drive I mean. You basically have to have one because only a sadist builds a PC with a disk drive in it these days
Controller if it's 60-80, already have a good rig and VR doesn't interest me.More interested in the Deck 2 (in 2030), and Half Life 3 next week.
>>726088114what like some kind of Original Equiment Manufacturer assmbling a pc and slapping their brand on it? sounds ridiculous, who would even do something like that
>>726055412I'd get the controller but I fear its gonna cost like 100$, it has too many soulful things i always wanted
>>726082754wrong it doesnt work well with PCSX2 especially when using autistic rebinds I like
>>726059170That's not how it works. The VR guys are strapped with so many different technologies that they're more machine than man. They wouldn't be looking at the frame to track their nose hairs. That's what the separate device they 3D printed a custom shell for and strapped to their chin is for. They would be looking at it so they can use it wirelessly and lay down on their bed so someone can sit on their face without having the data sent to Zuck.
>>726071714>2026 machine with a GPU weaker than 1080TiYikes
>>726087602>can I run pirated shit on it?You could for example, play every Vanillaware game on it
I need the controller immediately. 10 years of using Xbox controllers on PC and I'm tired. Too scared to check my emails to see how many I've bought over 10 years.
i'd probably get the controller if my xbox controller breaks
i just want to be able to replace windows with steamOS
>>726095835just install Cachy KDE
>>726055412Frame looks interesting but the lack of a headphone jack is honestly baffling.
>>726097929it does have an expansion slot in the front, so maybe that's gonna be an option.
>>726055412What are our thoughts on false advertising? Is it okay when Valve does it?
Personally, I'm only interested in controller.Everyone is dissing the Steam Machine, but if it becomes fixed spec PC for developers to target, it might be better this way rather than them targeting some NASA supercomputers w/ 20 NVidya HeckTX 6666 on it (and still stuttering).
>>726099000>devs>not being lazypeople were saying this about the steam deck too
Depending on the price ill get a steam machine to consolize my steam library and streamline it into my living room
>>726098242What did they false advertise?
>>726055412I might get the controller and the VR set.I think if Steam makes a decent VR set, we'll see more high quality VR games.
>>726098242Look I know someone on your discord worked really hard on this image but it's not working. You need to go back and think of another angle to attack from.
>>726056329most people own tv's but consoles have been fucking them >price hikes on consoles>price hikes on subscriptions>lack of notable releases >paid online>locked to a single marketplace since most games are bought digitallythe gabecube gives you an alternative, that has a built in library for most people since almost everyone has "a pc" or laptop and played SOMETHING at least once (due to how big pc gaming is getting)>inbuilt library (bonus if you had a deck that can transfer via sd card)>cheaper games / online access>exclusives out the ASS, cuz its a PC and has stuff consoles could wish they could touch>multiple storefronts
>>726102040it's a mystery
>>726055412Controller because it's the only one with actual value.The Frame is going to be overpriced and the Machine is over priced proprietary hardware that can't be upgraded.The controller is actually an innovative first party PC controller. The trackpads and gyro mouse make games that don't traditionally run on controllers or have poor controller support, playable on controller. On top of that they also have sticks that aren't going to drift.My current Xbox controller has some left stick up drift that I'll probably just tolerate until I can get a Steam Controller.
>>726102126>le heckin' Gaberino can do no wrongDo valvetroons really?
>>726060886>And a really long USB cable for your peripherals>And a USB hub to connect those peripherals>Oh wait, USB cables cap out at 10 feet!>Just buy repeaters bro>Just drown in cablesNTA, but as somebody who did hook their PC to the living room TV, I don't recommend getting long USB cables, but an ethernet cable that then is used to connect a USB hub. Technically you can have one that does both HDMI and USB, but I already had a long HDMI cable so wasn't worth it.
>>726102941I'm hyped for the long battery life and included wireless/charging dongle
>>726103239The dongle seems nice, never used wireless charging before so no idea how good that actually is.I'm hoping it's as easily repairable as the Deck apparently is. If I can buy some PCB with sticks or buttons on that just replaces the broken PCB that'll make it great.In any case it literally solves some of my problems on the few games I use controllers for.
>>726055412Seems like that cube will be worth getting to strip the ram out of at this rate
>>726102941Don't worry the controller is going to be overpriced too.
>>726103691Controllers are overpriced anon. Official Xbox controllers are £50-£60 depending on colour and official Dualsense are £54.The Controller is the one thing I'd be willing to pay quite a bit for, as long as it's not near £100 it's an easy buy.
>>726103941Obviously I meant overpriced in regards to xbox and ps controllers, you absolute imbecile. $80 at the bare minimum.
>>726104383Anon, £50 is $65 and £60 is $79.Controller prices already are high. If they sold it for $80 it'd be the same price as me buying a blue Xbox controller.
>>726104575Ok make it £80 then, of whatever funny money you want to use.
Anyone else notice how all the shitposting against this new hardware all but dissapear the mlment tendies started doing damage control for the metroid redditlord?
>>726055412Just the frame.Plug n play VR on Linux sounds great.I already have a desktop, and a controller, and a deck, so the rest is whatever.
>>726055412my covid era gaming laptop is probably better than the steam machine so it's hard to justify getting one, will depend on the pricewill get the new steam controller even though the old one looks more comfortable (pads are replacements for sticks, i don't want sticks)not sure on the vr headset, depends what their push for flatscreen games on goggles experience is supposed to be
definitely getting that controller. the steam machine and the headset look nice but i'm gonna skip both and just get the index
>>726055412if the cube is $500 I'm getting it day 1, otherwise I'll just get whatever new chinkheld is out
>>726055412>have a good gaming PC so I don't need the Steam Machine of Deck>have multiple controllers so I don't need another one>have a Quest 3 so I can't really justify getting another VR headset when I barely use this oneNot like it matters since Valve doesn't ship any of their shit over here anyway
>>726055412>Steam FrameSince its got a powerful SD 8 gen 3 chip inside, any chance of standalone vr games running on it without streaming from steam?
Their steam machine uses hardware that is so bad it's not even something you want before it launches. Imagine playing on that garbage for the next 6 years. While nvidia chads who bought a 2080ti 7 years ago are still fine even if they didn't upgrade.
The steam frame doesn't even have a displayport so you will have to use the weak on-board processor or stream it from your PC with reduced quality and high latancy (will not be much better than the now dead steam link). So given that at least 2 of their products are shitty with clear flaws why should we have faith in their controller?
>>726108729Didn't they specifically say that you could run shit on it standalone since it runs steam OS as well?
>>726109493No mention on the official steam page or I'm blind
>>726109687https://youtu.be/OmKrKTwtukE?t=2784:39 if the link doesn't start at the correct time
>>726110575Nice!
