Is it true Maxx C haters are midwits who can’t play their own combo deck in Master Duel?
wow dont post here anymore
It's an event with some guy using a loaner, ease it up a bit OP.
>>726058094There is zero justification that I have to play through Maxx C on top of an established board. Mulcharmy exists and I’d rather deal with 9 of them instead any number of Maxx C for this reason alone.
Modern YGO fucking sucks. I don't get the appeal.
I quit because they won't ban it. I'll play again when they ban it. simple as that.
>>726058094Roach should be banned, but only so more charmies get played since they're cute.
is anybody playing Genesys format or is it DOA?
>activate Branded Lost>Sky Sissy pops it>bring it back with Retribution>BraFu>scoopsI still had Kitt in hand to bring back Lost again if needed lmao
>>726059075>There is zero justification that I have to play through Maxx C on top of an established board.Therefore the boards' power level should be brought down.That way Maxx "C" can be put back to 3.
>>726059312I don’t even know where to play it
>>726059424My locals hosts it and there is discord groups for master duel
>konami flat-out stopped making win condition cards because no game lasts more than 3 rounds maxMy niggas, your game is shit and fundamentally broken.
>>726059689Those barely existed in the first place.
>>726059312DOA. Not even the grifters care enough to shill that shit format.
>>726059689Those were always just rare and silly gimmicks meant to impress children rather than well thought out additions to the game meant to be used in a serious fashion.Also it just isn't true.
>>726059689>flat-out stoppedthis is from 2024 >>726059985
I LOVE TENPAI
>Branded event AGAINSO FUCKING SICK OF THIS PIECE OF SHIT DECK
>>726061241When was the last (non-DC) event that Branded was not severely hit/banned?
Just ash/impulse branded fusion
>>726059771Because of power-creep you dumb coon.
>>726061637Oh yeah, power creep putting final countdown off the mapShut the fuck up, idiot.
>>726059985My eyes just glaze over trying to read cards made after 2005. The fuck is this shit lmfao
>>726061637Then how come Exodia still sees modern play?
>>726058094Maxx "C" promotes repetitive gameplay. In theory and often in practice it's not broken as some decks are unbeatable going first otherwise.
I unironically don't know how to get goodI can't even climb past Diamond IV-III and one card combos don't help when everything gets negated anyways etc. and guides never tell you what to cope with then, I really want to get good but don't know how
>>726061858What deck are you playing?
>>726062053Mitsurugi Ryzeal
>>726061637Anon, there's over 15000 Yugioh cards. There's probably less than 30 alternate win conditions in the entire game. They've always barely existed. Can you name 10 off the top of your head? I don't think I can>Exodia>TRUE Exodia>Ghostrick Angel of Mischief>Destiny Board>Final Countdown>Last Turn counts I guess>Relay Soul> This >>726059985I was gonna stop there but then I remembered Gimmick Puppet Disaster Leo or whatever. That's 9
>>726062232You forgot the best one sumo musical dice games
Take it to one of your three (3!) generals.>>>/vg/Or just play eternal card game instead>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs>ex-Magic devs
>>726061405Last month's Dice Rally (last month's). Only Sychro, XYZ and Links were allowed.
>>726062074Bretty good deck, I play it too. What exactly do you have problems with?
>>726061714>My eyes just glaze over trying to read cards made after 2005.Nigger or unironic retard?
>>726061780It doesn't. You can't b8 a vet, bitch nigger.
>>726062596You play ygo in current year. I trust your retard instincts more than anyone else.
>>726062671But I literally just saw them in MD like 10 minutes ago.
>>726062671What a fucking retard>vetLMAOOOO this negroid thinks he's a yugioh vet LMAOOOOO
>>726061858>I can't even climb past Diamond IV-IIIThis is a particularly brutal month. I was Master II last season after climbing from Bronze V and I can't get out of Diamond II.Maliss and Ryzeal format obscured that a lot of broken shit got released alongside them, and older broken shit was untouched.
>>726062434Are you retarded?
>>726058094how do you play this game? can't i just choose and build by irl deck? i'd even pay to just not grind and get the deck i want right away
>>726062074>>726062053It's actually pure Mitsurugi because I heard it was easy and I just want something to climb get gems and be done withI guess I just don't know what the fuck to doI see 3 one card combos but I am low IQ and don't know how to properly get the combos going in game when you have interruptions etc. by the opponent or if you already start with other cards on hand
what's a strong, generic, splashable main deck boss
>>726058094its a fag card that only faggots like >b-but going secondthen why was it never erratad so you need an empty board to activate it?fag card for faggot players
>>726062996Kashtira Fenrir.
>>726062996Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
>>726062970You can build basically anything you want from the get go with the new player starting resources. After that you'll get enough to build a new deck every 2~ months unless you want to swipe.
>>726062987Pure is pretty brutal if they negate Saji. Are you playing 3 copies of the ritual spell? Playing modern Yugioh is trying to bait as much interaction as possible while still trying to combo. Sometimes you just have hands that say this card has to resolve or you lose.
>>726062772>Can't read 2 middle school level sentences on a piece of cardboard>"Retard instincts"More like retard sniffing instincts LMAO
>>726062232>>Exodia>>TRUE ExodiaWhat's the difference?
>>726062996
>>726063081>then why was it never erratad so you need an empty board to activate it?Because that's fucking stupid.If you get handtrapped and end on nothing but a dead normal summon, it would be fucking stupid to not be able to activate Maxx "C" the next turn.Never post again you fucking retard.
>>726062987Pure Mitsu is quite rough. It has some strong plays but it's much better when combined with an engine (like Ryzeal or Orcust).
>>726063398TRUE is a meme promo that says your opponent wins the game.
>>726063398True Exodia is an even bigger meme card Takahashi made for the 20th Anniversary>If the only monsters on the field are this card you control and 4 "Forbidden One" Normal Monsters with different names, your opponent wins the Duel.
>>726063514>Pure Mitsu is quite roughAlright, I saw it was tier 1 and higher rated than that Ryzeal variant, but I do have the Ryzeal cards even if I never played themI also never know what to do if you get Roached or Drolled
>>726063570If you're talking about master duel meta, what they have listed as pure Mitsu is actually Mitsu Fiendsmith. No one is playing Mitsu truly pure.
>>726063818What should I play then, Ryzeal Mitsu or Fiend Mitsu?Please indicate only the easiest variant, I am low IQ and not ashamed to admit it, I just want the gems...
>>726063570>RoachedGo into a Murakumo + the trap or the search spell.>DrolledIf you opened with Habakiri you can still end on a Murakumo + the trap. If you didn't it's over.>but I do have the Ryzeal cards even if I never played themYou should try them out, at least with Mitsu. They give you a secondary game plan in case your Mitsu cards are negated.>>726063868>What should I play then, Ryzeal Mitsu or Fiend Mitsu?Both are very easy to pilot. I'd go with Ryzeal Mitsu because both engines (Ryzeal and Mitsu) can bridge into each other. Foendsmith Mitsu Is also pretty easy, any 2 monsters get you Caesar or Desire. Depends on what cards you already have.
>>726059172If you are going full metaslave, yeah.If you are trying to make weird stuff work out or run a burn deck it's fun
>>726063526It is a joke card, but also you can still use it to win by just giving it to the opponent while controlling all the limbs.
>>726064289Yeah but that's kinda hard to do without Soul Charge.
>>726063537this is the last card the mfer drew before he died btw
Don't care still playing Kashtira
Is Ryzeal the more insane archetype than Maliss? Since the start of the month I've seen less Maliss and more Ryzeal that's stronger than it ever was.
>>726064118I've been fucking around with a Dark Magician/Primite deck. It's more fun than a lot of meta decks have been, but the fundamental handtrap dynamic still gets old, and obviously the deck I play doesn't change the decks other people play. Of course if you're playing with friends in paper it's probably more fun and there's probably more variety.
>>726065051Playing with friends is always better than randos regardless of game or decks used really.What's enjoyable with randos is trying to test the limits of your cards or hope for a stacked hand and ruin somebody's day with your memes.
>>726065010Maliss got nerfed and Ryzeal got buffed. Its not complicated.
>>726065060
>>726061173brown
>>726065550I LOVE TENPAI
>>726063495>faggot seething about being called outeat shit
>>726065550He said Tenpai, not HERO and Salamangreat
gaylord
>>726066041Tenpai are honorary Sky Strikers and everyone knows niggers love Raye.
>>726065010Don't listen to this retard here >>726065295. Ryzeal got hit with the loss of 2 swords and 1 ext, practically making "Pure Ryzeal" impossible to be played and crippling the remaining gameplan. You can splash it in Onomat to spam R4NK and give it a bit more handtrap protection, but the Mitsu variant still ends on a better endboard. Maliss on the other hand got a slap in the wrist and still combos for days. Every tierlist puts Maliss above any Ryzeal version.
>>726067874>niggers love RayeOther way around
>>726067874Japs love RayeNiggers love Blue-EyesWhites love Dark Magician GirlSpics love NeosGooks love Live-Twin, maybeChinks love VFD
>>726068017>Pure Ryzeal
>"Your dragons may be white, but I only see niggers playing that garbage"-Atem, 2022
>>726059312It was firing consistently at my locals until the second points update happened and everyone had to retool their decks. The points system simply doesn't work for player engagement. It works fine for discussion points for engaged players and content creators but most players just want to build a deck and play without having to rebuild every two weeks due to their cards being effectively banned. Genesys needed to be a limited format with a curated card pool, not an anythings goes (except pends and links lol) format that has to put out a thousand little fires to make the format functional. A tight format with only the cards that have been tested to play well with each other would be ideal. Magic just threw away their Standard format and turned it into Yugioh. Konami side swiping them and offering a format that had the benefits of old Standard with a power level between Edison and Meadowlands to start with would have been incredible and would have sold TCG boxes built around them. But no, they went with Canadian Highlander for some fucking reason.
>>726063495Retard
>>726068912>>726065671>no argumentsOP was right
>>726058094I fully quit modern Yugioh when they started announcing that Maxx C' s play patterns were coming back to the TCG in the form of the Mulcharmies. They're fixed versions of the roach and not nearly as powerful but I still despise what they do to the game whenever they're involved. It's like they didn't realize the problem with Maxx C wasn't just its power level. Plus they were fucking expensive. I unironically would have rather they unbanned Maxx C than add its functionality back into the TCG for $60 apiece when I could have pulled the Maxx Cs I already owned out of my HAT decks.
>>726069573>They're fixed versions of the roach>I still despise what they doConsider that you might be a dishonet player that wants the game to be ruined.
>>726063495If you get interrupted into passing the turn you likely weren't winning even with Maxx C. Had you been able to set up any reasonable board being able to activate Maxx C behind it locks in your win so hard that the OCG's design team had to come up with shit like Tenpai to power through that kind of effect.
maxx sneed
>>726069849Ash Blossomoe
Ass, Bosom, and Joyous Things
>>726069742Punishing players for playing how the game is designed is a mistake, especially in a game that ends as soon as the first battle phase is possible. I also believe Droll should be banned. Single point of interaction hand traps like the ghost girls, Veiler, and Imperm are the ideal for game design while more explosive hand traps with stricter activation requirements are also fine within reason. Advantage based hand traps like the roach and the charmies are unreasonable game design since they find more of the reasonable hand traps as the turn goes on and rewards the player passively for the opponent simply playing the game as it's designed. Knowing when to interrupt is good. finding a mass of interrupts for free is not. It's why Rhystic Study needs to be banned from Commander.
>>726069573>Plus they were fucking expensiveThey're down to like $10 for the most expensive one thanks to reprints.
What's better going second, Super Poly or Mitsurugi engine?
Good design:>Interaction that forces you to make concessions on your plays (Maxx "C")Dogshit design:>turn-ending interactions (negations, floodgates, chokepoints)
>>726070908That's cool but if I wanted to play in the past few years not having them when they were expensive would have been a problem.
>>726071025Depends on what the opponent is playing.
>>726069742>If you get interrupted into passing the turn you likely weren't winning even with Maxx C.Drawing Nib off roach is why some players run it even though it's shit.
>>726071095If you make concessions on your plays you get swept up in the next turn.
>>726071145That's the price of being a metafag.
You have better odds of winning by ignoring the roach and doing your full combo anyway than you do by making whatever cope you can and passing.
>>726071236>>726071352>swept up in the next turnOverwhelming boards are also dogshit design because they're also a form of turn-skipping.
I feel way more comfortable running 2 Lemnisgate only running 1 makes me anxious I never want to banish it
>>726070474>Advantage based hand traps like the roach and the charmies are unreasonable game design since they find more of the reasonable hand traps as the turn goes on and rewards the player passively for the opponent simply playing the game as it's designed.I want to agree, but since archetypes themselves have inherent resistance to board breakers draw handtraps are a necessary part of the game. And even if breakers were viable, most of them are uninteractive so it's piss poor play regardless.
>>726071414Seems like you just don't like Yugioh. Why are you even here?
>>726071239There isn't much of a choice since the game is so competitive in its design. I was a rogue player so I was already at a disadvantage in power level and had to rely on obscure matchup knowledge to get wins. If I was playing rogue and also choosing to use worse staples going second would have been basically impossible and I wouldn't have had much of a reason to show up to my overly competitive locals. That's why I ducked out and started evangelizing for Time Wizard since the cost of entry was so much lower and the play patterns were more fun for casual players.
>>726071570I love REAL yugioh.YOU hate yugioh.
The roach argument is the biggest nothing burger in the game. It addresses none of the actual problems going on and is just for midwits to bitch about thread after thread. The winning decks between OCG and TCG are exactly the same with or without it. The only variation is a few decks might be Tier 1.5 instead of Tier 1 and another might be tier 3 instead of tier 4.
>>726071570>you're not supposed to want things to be better!!You should kill yourself.
>>726071546You're finding the spiral of shit design I ended up quitting over. The are so many layers of problems that only a full cardpool reset format could fix it. And they're new format is just Advanced with effectively a different banlist that includes all pendulums, links, and trap floodgates.
>>726071352Depends on the power level of the deck. Taking the challenge against 60 card slop is always a mistake because they will draw into 1-card starters for 4-5 engines. If the deck has hard chokes like Orcust, and all their consistency is to end on those chokes, yeah you can take the challenge.
>>726071668That's not entirely true. Combo decks are much stronger in the tcg. Plant Link for example never did anything in ocg but was top tier in the tcg and even had to be hit multiple times.
>>726071352This. https://files.catbox.moe/t4r0ui.mp4
>>726071807>but this deck that got no results
>>726071891>tcg hits deck that didn't get any tops to sell their preferred productI'll believe it.
I got master 1 with my bug deck against maxx c and fuwa during peak maliss with mind broken lancea players plant link just don’t have schizos in master duel like Jess in the tcg
>>726071668>The winning decks between OCG and TCG are exactly the same with or without it. Only superficially. Thrust metas which is every TCG meta is something that only happens in a Maxx-C less environment. So even if you re not getting turn skipped by roach, you re getting skipped by other floodgates and the turn 1 endboards are stronger.
>>726071807Plants were never top tier. They had good formats and one tranny autist piloting it who took advantage of hand trap formats that couldn't properly deal with the combo. It's the same reason Mathmech was a rogue contender during Kashtira format. Everyone was prepped for Kashtira and no one was playing GY hate so Mathmech snuck a few tops in due to no one playing its silver bullets.
>>726071668After the WCS ended, some guy collected stats on the games, and concluded that whether Maxx "C" was played or not, the biggest issue was how one-sided the games were.He posted his findings on Reddit, and Redditors got mad at him because he said that the roach is the second biggest issue in the game rather than the biggest.Moderntards are dishonest cunts that want to distract from the actual issues of the game, and want it to become worse.
>>726072129That’s also for Fuwalos if those cards didn’t exist ash blossom would be a side deck card
>>726072129What was the biggest factor? Ash being the most common hand trap is fine since it's a single point of interaction blank that hits everything decently but requires matchup knowledge to get its full effect. Games where it resolves aren't overwhelming wins.
>>726072129According to the numbers the going 1st player is actually 10% less likely to win if they activate roach on the opponent's turn.
>>726072439What's the sample size?
>>726072384>implying these cards weren't the top cards before Charmies got released
>>726072517264 duels in this WCS.
>>726072384What about the years worth of time after C was banned but before the Charmies came out when those handtraps were still being played anyways?
>>726072524Droll and called by sure but tcg also had formats where people would max out on droplet, dark ruler, evenly over handtraps
>>726072384>ash blossom would be a side deck cardThat's bullshit and you know it. In a bo1, what cards are you running in place of Ash?Breakers? Unless you're on Tenpai, breakers are bad because they're bricks going first. Droplet is explicitly a worse imperm going first. Super Poly loses some luster as a way to wipe out omni negates and bypass counter traps.Other handtraps? Genesys has almost no points on breakers and hit the power hand traps and turn 1 boards are even more oppressive than Advanced or Master Duel.Ash is the new Solemn Judgment and will always be run at 3 by anyone with a functioning brain
Test
>>726072804Never post that, you'll get an auto-ban for 1 day.
>>726058094Maxx C isn't really anti-combo its moreso anti-everything but Floowandereze & True Draco and combo just happens to be a subset of that group.
>>7260724392 scenarios at work here. You either got handtrapped and ended on nothing, and roach didn't save you from the OTK, or you drew into engine off roach and didn;t get enough handtrap disruption to stop the push.
>Maxx C>Droll>Fuwalos>Protos>Maxx C>Droll>Fuwalos>Protos>GryphonWill Konami ban Infernal Flame Banshee or both Nemeses + Colossus?
>>726073219The fuck are you even talking about retard?
>>726072770Yeah because ash isn’t super powerful anymore. Modern cards are too layered and a single ash doesn’t stop what it used too. It mainly exists to stop your opponent from using Fuwalos or Maxx C. What are you ashing against mitsu ryzeal or maliss? You just ash the first thing and pray they don’t have extenders. If they extend your hand size is 4 against their full combo.
>>726073298Cards that get floodgates are never the problem. Just ban the fucking floodgates.
>event>Hero from the fusion groupOh boy, I couldn't wait for a plasma + DPE pass. Why they are always like this?
>one hour of dueling later, get to my D2 promo match>opponent is about to demote>Konami decides to give me the most bricked hand I've had in the entire month>playing against Mathmech Centurion>somehow enough handtraps to survive>manage to activate roach>lmao no good draws other than Sengenjin which gets immediately Ash'd, but still manage to get enough bodies to go into Doomed Dragon and later into Little Knight>he punches her with TY-PHON, 100 LP left>final draw is Dark Evaporation with no other Dragons I can use to fuse>loseI haven't been hit this hard by the algorithm in a very long time, I'm genuinely upset right now.
>>726073431>Cards that get floodgates are never the problem.Did I mention Banshee also searches Snake-Eye Ash and Volcanic FTK?
>Buy 40 packs>a wopping 5 URsand one was a dupe of the shitty dragon ruler xyz that i already had 3 of i fucking hate this game
>>726073596>Banshee also searches cards no one playsoh no.
>>726073596stop trying to kill ashened even more, they already lost 2 copies of bonfire
>>726073596You forgot Ext Ryzeal
>>726073414Ash was never super powerful. It just hit the kinds of cards that Konami has been designing more of since 2015. Ash is necessary for the game since most other hand traps only work against monsters or cards on the board. Before Ash we didn't have hand traps that could interact with draw spells or teleports, two of the strongest effects in the game. Droll technically worked against draws and searches but it didn't work against the first search or draw meaning it didn't actually help much when the game was slower, and now that the game is faster and archetypes are designed to find the rest of their archetype through chain searches Droll is too oppressive when it works.
>>726073698>Got over double the minimum amount of URs>Still bitches
>>726073414>Modern cards are too layered and a single ash doesn’t stop what it used too.Ash should never be a turnskip when the opponent has 6 cards. That bullshit is why it was so oppressive for years. Of course modern decks should play through it but it will result in a weaker board.Fact is if Ryzeal or Maliss are low or cards or have too many nonengine in hand, Ash can skip them. It's still an open the out bro moment.>It mainly exists to stop your opponent from using Fuwalos or Maxx C.Ash counters way more nonengine than that. Metaltronus, Book of Eclipse, Veidos, Gamma, Kaiju Slumber can all be negated by Ash.
>>726073698This is my fear right now, I spent 4000 gemmies 1 week ago and got jack shit except 2 Ligers, now I have 4000 again and I just don't want to do it
>>726073803Ash was insane on launch. HOPTs started getting rolled out with Master Rule 2. If your starter was a Normal Summon or a HOPT you got fucked by Ash. That's why cards like E-Tele had to get limited, you could just activate another in a deck like Virtual World.
>>726074063>Ash counters way more nonengine than that. Metaltronus, Book of Eclipse, Veidos, Gamma, Kaiju Slumber can all be negated by Ash.All cards people can’t run because they run the maxx c package btw
>>726073698I had the same bad luck with Mitsurugi. I ended up dusting the Mitsu cards because I couldn't play into the retarded 3 handtrap/turn meta we're in.I'm still undecided as what's the best way to go. You play Mitsu, you end on 3-4 omni negates and can win. Mitsu is pretty good going second but Ryzeal/Maliss are still way too powerful.
>>726074313Anon Virtual World was printed 9 years after MR2.
>>726073854Isn't 40 packs 5k worth of gems? The average should be around 12 urs.
>>726074180I spent 8k and got 1 liger and 1 masq. I am so mad right now.
>>726074680FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK....
>>726074454>but Ryzeal/Maliss are still way too powerfulI swear doesn't matter how hard I interrupt them, M∀LICE always have something to continue extending in their hand, especially their one-ofs. Konami either has to hit the new @Ignister cards or plain ban all the generic Cyberse ED monsters.
>>726063229You type like a brownoid. A spic at that.
>>726075229>Can't read>Accuses others of being bad with the language Projecting hard, eh nigger?
>>726074951We've been over this a thousand times, Link Decoder and Splash Mage MUST GO, they're banned in paper for a reason. ALL Cyberse decks are NIGGERS. Mathmech is still cancer.
>>726074581The newer selection packs have been particularly jewish. I spent 8K on the Mitsu and got 5 URs.
>>726075589Yeah, about that...they're unlimited in OCG.
>>726074313Ash released not long before Zoodiac dominance and didn't do much to stop them. At best it was good as counterplay for Desires and Card of Demise which were big at the time. The Virtual World stuff is also completely ahistoric. E-Tele was limited in 2016 due to Kozmos and went up from its limit in October 2021 during the soft rotation of Virtual World when Lyrilusc Tri-Brigade, Swordsoul, and especially DPE piles completely buttfucked it. Also speaking as a VW player, if you Ash the E-Tele you're a drooling moron. Ash buttfucks VW since all of your cards can be Ashed due to the foolish and Kauwloon having that annoying special summon clause that never happens. You always save Ash for Lulu. This denies the Lulu body, her utility send of a spell/trap which function as searches or extenders, and denies her search. Ashing Lulu is the same as Ashing Branded Fusion unironically.
>>726064118>If you are trying to make weird stuff work outYou're still netdecking and following the flowchart to initiate combo and set up your field. There's almost no rng. Even Arcana Force got rid of the rng, which was the joke of its archetype.
>>726074951Because consistency hits to starters/extenders are retarded and do nothing if you can easily replace the lost cards.In Bystial Spright, I run 4 main deck Spright monsters and reach them every single game. For 2 years Blue, Jet and Starter were all limited. Hits have no impact on my deck at all.Same shit with Thunder Dragon back in 2022. Colossus limited, roar semi, hawk limited. That was the perfect ratio for running Thundra as an engine. Useless hits.Meanwhile the hits to Tears were massive because no other card in the game work like the Tear names did.
>>726075653yeah, they lowered the pulls, I used to get more UR's in 2022-23
>>726075756
>>726075589every cyberse deck that doesn't get an attribute restriction becomes fucking soup
>>726075794>if you Ash the E-Tele you're a drooling moron>Ashing Lulu is the same as Ashing Branded FusionThat's the entire point. Ash and Apollousa are insane in a world where every OPT is a HOPT. A 8000 ATK Apollousa loses to Scrap Dragon but can solo decks that can only use their effects once.
>>726059312Not folding it into Master Duel made it DOA. Thinking people are gonna bust out the excel spreadsheet to fucking brainstorm decks like I'm balancing my fucking checkbook is mighty egotistical of Konami
>>726076246The @Ignister support should have locked to @Ignister only.
>>726076118I haven't crafted or pulled a royal UR in over a year despite a year's pulls. Just because the # of URs has been so low lately.There's also a lot of FOMO lately which eats up gems. Especially the shitty 1600 bundles holy shit
>>726059312>Hueuehue am I using 97 points or 105? What are you gonna do? Audit me? What do you think
>>726076543>hes actually buying those bundleskek, yeah Konami caught on that bundles sell well. I only buy the bundles for stuff I actually play.
Agent J. Schmidt status?
>>726076665He's too busy throating John Konami to work right now.
>>726076543>There's also a lot of FOMO lately which eats up gems. Especially the shitty 1600 bundles holy shitI don't have a problem with those, it's a bunch of accessories and a 10 roll (which granted should have a guaranteed UR) for a modest price, and they're easy to ignore if you don't care about the archetype. If you don't want them, you just ignore them.
>create 50 card decklist with Mitsurugi>try out test hands>consistently bricking16 starters, 15 handtraps, 4 bricksI don't understand
>>726076665He just popularized Sky Dilaters with Troonick, yet another crime from him
>>726076792They were better in the past. The bundles released during the 1st WCQ were 2000 Gems for 20 packs + accessories. Now you're paying 1600 for 10 super jewish packs. It's shit value.
>>726058094If you're special summoning more than twice in a turn, then you're the cancer that maxx c was made to stamp out.
>>726076806> 50 card decklist with Mitsurugilmao are you me? I'm using Ogdo and Aliens
Boo!
>>726076509Konami would never do that since they still consider vrains a thing even after shafting it, they want you to play it alongside yusaku's cards the problem is they gave him an entire type instead of an archetype >>726076543i normally bought bundles but now they are releasing them too fast and for stupid prices the orcust bundle was over 2000 gems for 10 packs i dont understand what they where thinking
>>726076931Mitsu is best played big because you less likely to brick but MD supposedly increases the % of drawing 1 ofs so the brick chance seems to increase.I opened Kusanagi and/or Murakumo in 4 of 10 hands. That shouldn't be possible if the shuffler was fair.
>>726076943>undead pair of titsI'm scared
anyway sad lab and happy diabell alts when?
>>726077238https://www.nexusmods.com/yugiohmasterduel/mods/1671
>>726073298They should just ban Nemeses Flag
>memento got 2 hits for the event while sky striker gets to be a full power i know why but i hate konami more because of it
>>726072008they hit it because they were embarrassed to see jess at the top tables over and over
>>726077429Konami can't ban Nemeses Flag. It's the starter for the Nemeses archetype.
>play sharks in event>decks are just a little too bad thanks to support being split between the summoning methods that I can survive multiple boardbreaks/hand traps and guarantee turn 3 follow upGod bless levirtue dragon and that trap's GY effect
Ban overpowered cards until there's no such thing as "not viable".
>>726078343Wish granted, the whole game is now vanilla beatdown mirrors.
>>726078745FUCK YEAH GEMINI ELF
>give every archetype a themed omni-negate alongside generics like Baronne>combo slop stacks engines leading to negate walls>surprisedpikachuface
>>726078343How does this work with Temple of the Mind's Eye?
>>726078972Combination takes precedence since it resolved last.
>>726078779Sorry, gemini elf is too centralizing since it's the best normal summon, it's now banned too.
>>726076925Having a hard cap of like 5 special summons a turn is the only thing that can save the game. Whats the problem? They've changed the core game before. They changed the draw rule. They changed the field. They can implement a cap on special summons also
>>726079090Fuck yeah Mechanicalchaser.
>>726078848What's worse is that you can't steal these omni-negates to use them against your opponent to break their board.Baronne can only be used once while face-up, Allied Code requires to be linked, Blazar banishes itself, Herald tributes itself, Cydra Infinity is SOPT, Dragite requires a water, Sheou shuffles herself back, Dragoon is SOPT, etc.Going second is nerfed by design.
>>726079117I see you floonigger.
>>726079145Sorry, mechanicalchaser is too centralizing since it's the best normal summon, it's banned now.
>>726079117Card design doesn't support this change at all. The only way the game gets fixed is a restrictive format where everything except cards from specific sets is banned.
I finally finished all of GX start to finish. It was a long time coming. Season 4 was kind of boring apart from the final duels. Still, definitely worth the watch.
>>726079090>>726079317Keyword is "overpowered".Normal monsters by definition are not overpowered.
>>726079090Luster Dragon
>>726058094>Is it true Maxx C haters are midwits who can’t play their own combo deck in Master Duel?Yes. Maxx C haters are shitters who don't know how to play into or around Maxx C even slightly.They just watch "HOW 2 COMBO" tutorials of their chosen deck and just memorize lines.They never learn how to adapt or alternate lines depending on how the opponent played.These fucking losers HATE low luck and high skill based Metas.Look at all the casuals who bitched about Tearalaments Tier Zero format. Extremely high skill expression meta and they hated it.Learn to git gud.Also ygo is a card game. "i lost cause my opponent drew better" is going to happen forever and there is NOTHING that will change that.
>>726079376Mechanicalchaser was overpowered relative to its format due to being able to beat over 1800 beaters that made up the format's normal summons.
>>726079376They will be once they're the only thing in the game. Reminder that mechanicalchaser was a dumb vanilla with only 50 points over La Jinn and it was still over $200 a copy.
>>726079343>Card design doesn't support this change at allYes it does. Sorry your literal cancer needs 5 special summons to spread
>>726079090Mekk-Knight Avram
>>726078343No, print one or two extremely overpowered custom cards that make shit like this viable>Card 1 (continuous spell): If your opponent would take exactly 400 battle damage, inflict 800 effect damage after damage calculation>Once per turn you can add 1 "Don Zaloog" or "Dark Scorpion Combination" from your deck or GY to your hand >Card 2 (Quickplay spell): If you control Don Zaloog you can special summon 1 Dark Scorpion monster from your hand, deck, GY or banishment, then you can set Card 1 from your deck. >You can banish this card from your GY, this turn you can activate "Dark Scorpion Combination" ignoring its activation requirements.
>>726079451>>726079458Either you're too retarded to understand what "overpowered" means, or you're dishonest.
>>726079376Overpowered as a concept exists in the environment it's around. "ban overpowered cards until nothing is unviable" functionally cannot happen, because there will always be unviable cards unless literally everything better than them is banned. There were unviable cards even when the cardpool was 2 starter decks and LOB.
>>726059312TCG once again made the tard mistake of trying to appeal to yugiboomers while forgetting the fundamental fact that yugiboomers don't actually want to play the game. They just want hype anime moments. It's sad really. They even went out of their way to ban pendulum and links just to try to attract them.
>>726079603I accept your concession.
>>726068716MTG still has cube drafting which fills that niche anyways.
>>726079343>My deck is gonna get nerfed waaaaaYou're a homo if you "combo" for a literal minute
>>726079659There was no concession, so that means you're retarded.
>>726079343> The only way the game gets fixed is a restrictive format where everything except cards from specific sets is banned.Or, you print more breakers like Super Poly that are explicitly monster interaction.Branded is often called a "fair" deck despite its power because almost all its in-archetype interaction is versus monsters. Duster and Branded Regained are #2 and #3 most threatening cards vs Branded after Ash.
>>726079603Overpowered is relative to the meta. Cards in meta contexts can be busted or bad. Pre-errata Future Fusion would be absurd today and was absurd as soon as they introduced the Chaos Dragons in 2012. But in Edison Future Fusion is just a big playmaker that sets up future turns for high value if it's not answered but the answers are common so the card isn't actually broken. Does this make it an overpowered card when it's not actually affecting win percentages of decks that play it enough that the format is warped by its presence?
>>726059312Format has too many modern power decks for the annoying casuals bitching about "new" Yugioh.I won't play it because it doesn't allow Links.Every old deck I care about got modern support via Links. Almost every modern deck I like got way too raped by massive points costs.So I have no interest in that format
The handtrap minigame at the start is more fun that the rest of the game tbdesu.
>>726079930The lower powered decks from the past few years I'd want to play in a side format are build on links and pendulums. Fuck me for wanting to play Midrange Supreme Meme King and Majespecters.
>>726079820>Or, you print more breakers like Super Poly that are explicitly monster interaction.Is the joke here that you can't interact with Super Poly so it's a piss poor example? Anyways no, the last thing this game needs is more stupidly busted auto 'I win' cards if they resolve.What actually needs to happen is that the power level of end boards is lowered. You shouldn't instantly be able to win the game going first or second just off of one card. Both players should be interacting with each other non-stop, not just one person.
>>726068716>Magic just threw away their Standard format and turned it into Yugioh.I don't think this "experiment" is gonna last very long to be completely honest, we are 1 year away from rotation and there's already 10 cards banned in standardwe'll be back to 2 year standard soon enough
>>726079145>>726079090Warp genewolf or whatever its called, you know the normal summon the bots always pull alongside Luster Dragon.
>>726079907>"Cards in meta contexts can be busted or bad">nothing in betweenLike I said: You're too retarded to understand what "overpowered" means.You equate being good in any capacity with being "overpowered" (because you're a retard).
>>726080146They've completely bought into standard and commander and have completely abandoned modern and pioneer. Every set next year is a hybrid standard/commander set which would be fine if there wasn't so many of them and if rotation wasn't so long. I think they're going to extend or remove rotation eventually because they're that short sighted and don't know what they have.
>>726080312I never once implied Future Fusion was bad in Edison. It's a healthy part of the meta since its impacts aren't outsized in a way that causes bad play patterns.
>>726080335>everyone always says ygo should have rotation like mtg>all of mtg's most popular formats are eternal formats and standard keeps making the rotation window longerhow the turn tables
>>726059312KoA for some reason completely ignored the fact that a lot of decks require certain Links to properly work, so banning the entire mechanic made a lot of archetypes virtually unplayable while not truly addressing the issue with other modern decks such as K9. I can't even use Dragonmaids optimally because for some goddamn reason the fusions cost a lot of points to use, let alone the fact that I don't have access to a Link-1 to dump a maid to the GY.
>>726080125>you can't interact with Super PolyWhy do you want to interact with Super Poly, so you can negate it? That's the entire reason it's any good. Being unrespondable is only valuable against counter traps, floodgates and omni negates, the most toxic go-first cards in the game. Super Poly also doesn't wipe your entire board so unless you played into it with no backup you deserved the loss.Metaltronus is sort-of like Super Poly but was overnerfed because it's easy to negate and is a HOPT.>'I win' cardsshitter
>>726080537>I want my games to be interactive! >so you want to interact with the other guy?>uhh...are you stupid? No, I want to instantly win...Alright dude, whatever you say.
>>726080454Magic is such a good game but it's run by terrible people and a dying corporation that wants to extract as much money out of it as possible before they die and WotC gets cut loose.
>>726058094>upstartSo I'm lacking 3 upstarts and 1 hamp + the nuke link 2 for strikers. Do I bother crafting them?
>>726072129Handtraps have not and will not ever fix the going first problem.More often than not they end up protecting the turn one player and bolstering their endboard FAR more than they stop the turn 1 player.
>>726080615Yugioh players are some of the dumbest, thick lipped, gorilla browed, vanta black niggers in gaming.
>>726080713Ironic from the guy chimping out because I said super poly was designed like shit.
>>726080514KoA has the weird believe that they can recapture the DM era audience or lure them in if they dumb down the game enough. That and they have some weird belief that the game was ruined with the release of pendulum. Which I always find ironic since the era making so many older decks and ED methods viable is why I even started to play the game seriously in the first place.
>>726080758I'm agreeing with you. Retards who think Super Poly isn't anything other than a new problem thrown onto a pile of problems are the worst part of any discussion about this game. They want their cards to win them the game instantly. They don't understand why this would be a problem of game design and not a solution.
>>726080836ENTER!
>>726080975Oh okay, you're a cool guy.
>>726080514Konami prints the cards, if they wanted to they could make every single deck function without links tomorrow. If Genesys somehow takes off in Japan they'll just turn Sky Striker into an XYZ deck centered on Roze with Raye as the garnet while the existing link version of the deck will stay centered on Raye and use Roze as the garnet.
>>726080224We're talking about proper boomer cards anon. Not your busted shit from 2006.
>>726080975Going 2nd sucks.But the fact the only good going second cards rely on "Your opponent cannot respond" or game mechanics that cannot be responded to isn't a solution, its a 2nd problem. You cant solve the going 2nd problem without mass-banning and limiting endboard potential.
>>726080919>dumb down the game enoughReturn to the real yugioh*
>>726081132>just errata thousands of cards bro
The real tragedy is Domain format is dead after the biggest shill for it sperged out after Charlie Kirk's death and got excommunicated by the Yugituber community and now everyone pretends the format doesn't exist.
>>726081346?
>>726080682hamp is skippable>the nuke link 2Dunno which one that is but all link 2s except for Zero are skippable. Some of them do help out in some yucky gamestates but the deck functions without them>upstartUpstart is also skippable specially in a droll meta but man there aren't any good spells to really replace it with
>>726081323I never said anything about errata. They'd just print new ones to replace the function the link cards had.
>going second "problem"We already solved that. It's called turn 0 plays.
>>726081585that's even worse
>>726081585>your engine is now also your non-enginebased but same problem as MR4 where archetypes needed years waiting on new support to be halfway playable
>>726081323You basically need a banlist thats 10 miles long to fix yugioh.
>>726081346I don't even want to think about how that den of vipers and trannies reacted to Charlie Kirk's death. I can't imagine it was very peaceful.
>want to play genesys>RDA seems fun>flame crime is 30 fucking dollarsthe TCG niggers need to hang themselves before even thinking of designing an alt format
>>726081585Clearly the solution to losing the coin toss and watching a 15 minute combo is watching the same 15 minute combo when you win the coin toss as well.
>>726080836Anime Super Poly is infinitely more fair than the real one>can be responded to, just can't be negated>must use one of the user's monstersThe "cannot be responded to" clause is the most retarded shit in all of Yugioh. It's the equivalent of picking up your opponent's cards and ripping them up because you made up some stupid bullshit at the playground.
Is this useful in RDA with the new support?
>>726058094Ygo master duel general thread
>>726082083no because the new support also provides level modulation and only provides an extra normal to resonator monsters. You'd never want to normal this, it has no special summon condition, and resonators can't just dig out any fiend from deck
>>726082083He's never been used and is one of the worst max rarity inclusions in any side set. What a genuinely baffling card.
>>726081275>But the fact the only good going second cards rely on "Your opponent cannot respond"Super Poly and Droplet are good because they're not useless going first. They're much worse going first, but not useless.Metaltronus is bad because it's yet another board breaker that can be negated by a handtrap.Sales Ban can be responded to, and it's kind of underrated because going first you call Droll or Nib, and going second you call non-omni negates like Deadnamer, Apollousa or Crypter.The biggest flaw to Sales Ban is that Konami balances some decks around the mirror and expects you to play the mirror, and Sales Ban is really fucking bad in mirrors.
Did every MtG player that used to swear up and down that YGO needed keywords end up ACKing themselves when people starting casting Spongebob? Haven't heard anyone asking for that in these threads in ages.
>>726082490Konami has proven time and again that they have no idea how synchros actually work. That's part of the reason metas with top tier synchro decks are so fucking miserable to play.
>>726082731Keywords/terms already exist in yugioh.
>>726082812I hope the TCG brings them over one day.
>Duel Triangle>Link is by far the worst performer in 3rd place>You still only get 100 points for winning instead of 150wtf did Konami forget how their own festival works
>>726082908They're already here.
>>726082908There's a lot of things the TCG needs to do, including bullet points for effects.Tewart doesn't give a shit anymore, he's ready for retirement.
>>726081281DM era yugioh fucking sucks. The game didn't get remotely fun until the synchro era.
>>726083071>including bullet points for effects
>>726082991I wonder why. I went xyz because I never get to play sharks but isn't striker full power?
>playing the Tag Force games>first two games don't really let you steal the girl and you're just there for the ride>mfw Tag Force 3kinda cute having asuka fail her confession 3x to you but this shit just feels wrong. I don't really like how my deck is right now, it's kinda cheesy for the game (benkai OTK lmfao) but as soon as I saw Benkai I knew we were going to be doing this shit. Trying to think of other fun deck builds but I need to farm more DP and this has been carrying me quite a bit through the story.
>>726083135>1% of cards that have bullet points in ocg also arbitrarily got them in tcg
>>726083135you know that's not what he means
>>726083236He can use his big boy words to clarify.
>>726083302I accept your concession.
>>726083221
>>726083168>isn't striker full power?Striker is too weak to handle the Fusion decks in the event and if you make Strikers go first they end on weak boards. I was able to beat them pretty consistently with Tistina even when they made me go first.
>>726083135Why is literally every single yugioh player so desperate to go>Haha, gotcha! That's not what he meant. Literally everyone who has seen an OCG card printed in the last 5 years or however long it's been there knows what he meant. You know fully well that's not what he meant too. Nobody here is impressed by flipping your ebin trap card and if anything only thinks less of you because of how intentionally obtuse you're being.
>>726083330Are you gonna do this every time you get buttmad?
>>726083168Nah, Synchros are banned.
>>726083438see >>726083330
>>726083414Man that sure is a lot of words just to say>Damn I was wrong
>>726083517I'm not him, jackass.
>>726083414Clearly he DID mean bullet points >>726083221He and I understood each other perfectly well, so how about you stop hallucinating what you THINK people mean?
>>726083531I accept your concession.
There's an underaged teenager in this thread:>>726083517>>726083330>>726083568
>>726083617unc malding
>>726083401To think that 3-4 disruptions is considered bad now because your rogue deck will die to the sixth card
>>726058094What are ways Atem would be able to beat modern decks with his shit decks from the anime? What bullshit would he pull to somehow win against the meta?
>>726083782See episode 1.
>>726083782There's a replay of starter deck Joey beating full power Tear floating around somewhere, the answer is the opponent has to brick.
>>726083831What was that, 5 turns? Yubel did that on his opening hand when posessing a child.
>>726083414Because he's has the autism.
>>726083831Duelist Kingdom doesn't count.
>>726083908>his
>>726083215I'm afraid to start playing Yugioh video games because the extent of my deckbuilding ability amounts to trap holes and 1800 ATKs.
>>726084013Episode 1 is pre-Duelist Kingdom.
>>726083363a bao a qute
>>726084123single player that's perfectly fine. it's only synchro era when you can REALLY get degenerate with 5 minute combos and 3 quasers on the fields. >current meta.ehhhhhhh not the best game for beginners.
>>726082741Centurion is fun
>>726084084Male body at the time
>>726083782Atem can topdeck literally anything he wants. Bam, exodia T0.
>>726084192Anon...you were not doing long ass combos like that in the synchro era.
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK
>>726084123Most decks in games pre-synchro era usually just end up being vague themes instead of full brown strats most of the time. Shit like Duel Academy or the OG series stuff encourages you to focus on a specific attribute or monster type like Water, for example.
>>726084158No it isn't. It follows the DK rules. Know what you're talking about before starting a convo.
>>726084243HE'S PERFECT
>>726083719Event Striker isn't 3-4 disruptions though, it's more like 1-3. Their best endboard is Widow Anchor, Linkage, the Link 2 and handtraps.The Link 2 didn't boost the deck like everyone thought it would. Raye had been dropped from competitive strikers and the Link 2 incentivizes running her again. Running Raye and Roze means less room for nonengine.
>>726084123Just pick your favorite cards and trust your deck. If you trust your deck there's no way you can lose. Most people lose because they just don't have faith in their deck.
>>726084289>play with Duelist Kindom rules on Master Duel>I am now inside Duelist KingdomInteresting
>>726084289DK rules involve fields giving stat boosts, that didn't happen in episode 1.
>>726084243>>726084309>main deck masked heroesHoly based. Are we finally getting specialized HERO decks instead of the only viable route being HERO slop? The new Evil HERO support was pretty mid.
>>726084241caught me bitch. not triple quaser but at least one. https://en.yugioh-list.com/decks/dtl/15can you not be a passive aggressive fag btw
>>726084240>Atem can topdeck literally anything he wantsNo he can't, he only had that ability when he faced Yugi in the ceremonial duel because that duel was special. People misunderstand that part so much. Atem wasn't cheating throughout the series.
>>726084440Counterpoint: yes he could.
>>726084436I'm pointing out that combos like that weren't the norm for the time. it's not me being passive aggressive.
>>726084467You have no counterpoint, you're just wrong.
>>726084495I accept your concession.
>>726084192>single player that's perfectly fine.No it isn't. Every era of yugioh always had overpowered bullshit strategies that chase away newbies.
>>726084436I legit don't understand why this card is still banned>b-but LinksEven using eater in a Yubel deck (Yubel having high levels so you can summon it infinitely) doesn't give you a better endboard than a Pendulum deck. It's just standard Yubel + Tri-Gate Wizard.
>>726084528Still wrong.
>>726084482>not the normwtf did i say that dont put words in my mouth i said synchro era you can do degen stuff. >>726084559....you're not playing with freaking "overpowerd bullshit strategies" on the cpus unless your fucking playing forbidden memories and why would you
>>726084603What part of "Free bodies are broken in modern Yugioh" do you not understand?
>>726084623You are replying to an underaged teenager.See >>726083617
>>726084724now say it again without crying
>underaged teenager>in a YGO threadI'd be amazed if anyone here was under 25
>>726084495Do you have any proof he wasn't cheating? No? Didn't think so, so he was always cheating, as explained in the final duel.
>>726084761it again
>>726084779Why the fuck would anyone younger than 25 play this dogshit game, most are attached to it because of nostalgia and a hostage syndrome. The yugioh anime hasn't been a thing to kids to pipeline them in in a decade.
>>726084603You have to be blind AND retarded to not see how Level Eater, a card that can revive itself from the GY infinitely, wouldn't be a massive issue in the modern game.
>>726084870There's a few 5Ds and Zexal zoomers, but there is no reason why anyone under 20 would be here.
>>726084687Level Eater is not free. You can't generically search it, you need to spend resources to get it into the GY and summon a big enough monster to keep it on the field as you slowly Link climb.Someone here keps shitting on Plaguespreader Zombie, but Zombie is generically searchable with Sprights.
>>726083782top decking symbol of friendship
>>726084426He makes Hero Soup function beautifully if the lines work out how I think they will. Guaranteed Mask Change, special summoning Stratos/Vyon/Shadow Mist to retain the normal summon, variation on attribute for Sunrise, Miracle Fusion target for Abzero to then use with the Mask Change he sets from deck to make Acid for a one sided board wipe. He's engine grease.
>>726083782Slifer is actually a very strong floodgate against link slop
With all the broken cards getting banned, is stun even still a thing? I miss Eldlich play....
>>726085275some time ago I made a sky striker slifer deck and it was funny af, shizuku + slifer
What's the jankiest tech you put in a deck that actually worked? Maybe not consistently but a sorta you can pull it off every other game or something and you definitely know your opponent is going wtf is he doing
>>726085346Stun will always be a thing, we even got Morgana this month so you can now play Morganite Stun and normal summon Vanity's Fiend without tributing anything.
>>726084984I'M a 5D's zoomer and I'm 28.
>>726085527>>726085275>>726085376I put revived sky god in paleo.
Will you be boughtening the Legendary 5Ds decks?
>>726085527I was able to banish the entire Fiendsmith extra deck by activating 3 bystials, then chaining Spright StarterBystials banish before they special summon, so the Level 2 lock on starter causes you to banish cards without burning the Bystial in hand. So next turn I had 3 more procs to finish off the remaining Engaver and Lacrima.
>>726085247I mean, that's great and all but I really would like distinct HERO decks. I guess eventually the goal is to make HERO into a toolbox-like deck that can out pretty much any board state.
>>726085346Can your 2025 meta engine make a rank 4? Congratulations, you can play stun.
>>726085029Why are you up-playing Plaguespreader in Sprights?
Why did HERO get broken ass Link band aids while the 5D's era decks got nothing?
>>726085616A ten year old that watched Zexal in 2013 is 22 years old
>>726085825The last time I bought yugioh cards for collecting they curled into oblivion in like a week even in a binder so no.
>>726084801Yes, he lost to Raphael. He had a brick draw.He also beat Kaiba through pure skill in Battle City.And the "heart of the cards" thing was something every good character did, Joey and Kaiba included.It's very specifically mentioned he's only doing it on Yugi because of his memories being restored and being at full power to test Yugi.
>>726085275Yeah but Yugi has no Slifer support.
>maindeck masked HERO>it's actually goodOn a scale of 1-Gohan Blanco, how hard is spic twitter chimping out right now?
>>726071746>Better things = Changing fundamentals of the cardgameYeah, sure buddy
>>726086292It's crazy how new cards I buy curl in a week despite sleeving them right away but I can leave my first edition LOB Monster Reborn in a shoebox for 25 years and it's not curled at all when I pull it out.
Speaking of Yugi, how are his new retrained cards? Do they make a good deck? Do the retrains make Silent cards good now?
>>726086337Raphael is non-canon filth you disgusting secondary
>>726071025>What's better going second, Super Poly or Mitsurugi engine?This is not a good comparison. Super poly is 3 spells in deck and a handful fusions in the ED, Mitsu is an engine with around 8-ish cards in the main deck. Mitsui is also not good at boardbreaking (what you wanna do when playing a go second deck).
>>726086468So is the line about Atem drawing whatever he wants you dipshit. Both are anime exclusive. That scene isn't in the manga.I knew you were a brainlet, but I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.
>>726086464(lolYugi's best card is still Chimera
>>726086538The shining sarcophagus cards suck? Dang.
>>726086464Shining Sarc is pretty decent for how easy it is to pilot. I don't know if you can go to Master with it but it can do more than you'd expect.
>use Mikanko>hilarity ensuresNobody reads in this game for real huh? Everyone is a metanigger that started playing last week? They just see 0 and be like "let me keep attacking it has to die this time right"
>>726086642People just swipe the top decks from online without any idea how to actually play them.
>>726086203Someone at Konami fucking hates 5Ds unless your name is Jack Atlas. Resonators are good. Yusei got fucked on his support and his only playable cards are lv 12 accel synchroes that other decks can turbo out better. Rose Dragons suck and don't feel like Aki anyways since plants basically don't matter. Buy Blackwings is a 15 year old meme. Earthbound immortals suck. Infernities are in gay baby jail forever. T.G. was ok for like 2 months. Timelords suck. Meklords suck. Nordics suck. Anything I'm not remembering suck to the point where I can't be bothered to remember them.
>>72608664290% of the people i face are bots so you're most likely just styling on clankers
>>726086613They are weak by today's standards for sure. They can get dragoon out easily but that's about it aside from the silent negatds
>>726086642Mikanko is one of the few decks that can out double Liger since it can run Lava Golem. Of course you're seeing success.
It's the year 2025. Joey STILL doesn't have a playable deck in Series 11 + 2
>>726086402Main character magic and summoning the 3 poker knights I guess.His deck sucks thats just his best win con.
>>726085275>links summon a 0 attack monster
>>726086613Their endboards just aren't good enough without loading up on additional engines and they seem to be built for a grind game but have no way of recycling their high level bricks.The Shining Sarc DMG will see some play in other decks when the Dark Magician support releases because she can get you Dragoon+a rank 8 for a discard.
Will we get a new anime this Jump Festa?
To be fair, Atem would absolutely play illusions if he had them. If for some reason DM ever comes back, he'll probably play them. Honorary Yugi deck.
>>726087172Nothing ever happens at Jump Festa
>>726087204Yugi would play waifu decks like Labrynth or Dragon Maids.
>>726086834Does Mikanko even need to out the Ligers? What can the deck do against Huli OTK/Beatdown aside from non-engine or their one spell negate?
>>726087031The problem is that Konami can't decide what's supposed to be a "Joey deck". Red-Eyes? Metalmorph? Flame Swordsman? Remember how his ace used to be Gilford and he main decked warriors like Swordsman of Landstar, Panther Warrior and Gearfried? Those cards and any new version of them are utter trash. He used Jinzo a lot during Battle City but it's obvious that it was never meant to be one of his main monsters. He should have been the Warrior specialist to contrast Yugi being the Spellcaster user and Kaiba being the Dragon one, but he never got a true time to shine and forever remained as the funny underdog that somehow made it through tournaments by sheer determination.
>>726085275It's funny to see Maliss users being unable to play if Slifer is on the field.
>>726087342Blow up your shit before you can make them indestructible. Twice.
>>726087348His main ace were dice cards
>>726087348It's not too late for Joey to get Panther Warrior, Landstar, Gearfried retrains in the style of Shining Sarc. IMO the Metalmorph cards don't really seem like they're meant to be "Joey cards" despite using Red Eyes and Flame Swordsman, they feel more like generic Duel Monsters nostalgia cards.
>>726087278Even if he did play them, he could. The Pharaoh chooses whatever archetype he feels like playing during a given episode.
>>726087471>not GraverobberFilthy secondary.
>>726087506Every metalmorph is a Joey card except Zoa who is mandatory since its the metal monster.
>>726087459In what situation is Mikanko not fully bricked but also not able to get Huli on board with an equip as their first special summon?
>>726087574That is Bakura
>make good Gearfried support>make a Red-Eyes archetype>make another OCG wave of Flame Swordsman support since the foundation is already builtRed-Eyes aside, the answer really is as simple as making good cards. Honestly, they might be able to bridge Gearfried and Flame Swordsman without generic warrior slop.
>>726058094only a master fool would play master duel
>>726087794Red-Eyes as an archetype really isn't a Joey thing though, he just happened to have one. Asuka's brother is the Red-Eyes fag.
>Learning Elf>spellcaster>(1) If this card is Normal/Special Summoned: You can Set 1 Spell/Trap with an effect to equip itself to a monster as an Equip Spell from your Deck.>(2) If this card is sent from the field to the GY: You can draw 1 card. Erufu archetype any day now.
>>726071781What do you hit in orcust?
>>726087953pretty cool. Dont think 'kankos had a NS
>>726088039Ashoka Pillar, also I don't think Learning Elf helps Mikanko since it specifically searches for a Spell/Trap that can treat itself as an Equip Spell, not specifically an Equip Spell. Think Kunai with Chain for example.
>>726087936Blue-Eyes has its own lore separate from anything in the manga with all the sages and stuff but he also is still a Kaiba card and gets Kaiba based support cards. Red-Eyes is the same and has some Joey cards like Red-Eyes Fang with Chain or Gearfried the Red-Eyes Iron Knight. They're definitely linked.
>>726087278That is funny how the moment Yugi got to make his own independent deck from Atem, he loaded it with waifus and big dragons.
>>726088128so... metalmorph support?
>>726087936There are multiple Red-Eyes Black Dragons. One of them became Darkness Metal Dragon, and another became Zombie Dragon Lord. Joey's is a different line that could tie in with the warrior storyline if Konami wanted.
>>726087961You negate Orcust Knightmare. Orcust Knightmare is the only way to access World Wand from the deck outside of Foolish Burial. You get to Orcust Knightmare by pitching Harp Horror or through Knightmare Mermaid.
>>726088128Equips do have an effect to equip themselves so they're legal targets. You'd probably still rather run Pillar if you were going to use one since you don't want your search to get popped before you can put it face up to protect it with Huli, and also you'd probably prefer to be able to bait Ash so your Divine Dance can resolve.
Has any game copied the chain system/speed spells? That's about the only fun part of modern ygo.
>>726087278He'd probably pick Labrynth because he'd feel personally identified with Lovely.
Draw!I summon Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts in defense mode, and end my turn.
>>726088648MtG's "stack" works pretty much the same. My understanding is that it's the same as building a chain in Yugioh but after each link resolves you can add new links. So you could have like>activate One for One>chain Ash Blossom>Chain called by>chain starts to resolve>Ash is negated by Called by>you reach the One for One chain >OK now I use Impulse on itOf course you need mana for stuff in Magic so I'd imagine crazy chains are less common.
>>726088940I bricked so I quit
>>726088940>"Wait, my normal summon does WHAT now?"
Yugi uses his millenium puzzle to make it so you only draw handtraps.
>>726088940Hey, you're not allowed to do that. Either normal summon it in attack position or set it. I'm getting a judge.
>>726089223>Hey, you're not allowed to do that.I just did!
What if he uses Kuriboh and Multiply for unlimited link material
>>726089063You can re-enter the chain and you can also respond to anything else in the chain. So you could also just Impulse the One for One while CBTG is on the stack.
Surprise Fusion is very good
What was the last deck Konami outright killed on MD?I remember big bans to Block Dragon and Wyverburstar, but nothing since. That was the start of 2024.
>>726090003snake eye by banning oak
I haven't played Yugioh since Lightsworns. How fucked am I
>>726090003snake eye by banning apollousa
>>726090117if you liked lightsworn you will like tearlaments
>>726090003Ritual Beasts by adding the charmies.
>>726090003Pure Snake-Eye by banning Oak. It's now just another slop package for stronger decks like Mitsurugi and Tearlament and neither really needs it. Tearlament might actually be killed off once and for all after the next Duelist Cup since it always overperforms there and the deck is the strongest it's been since before the Perlereino ban.
>>726087953>any day now.They literally just printed an elf archetype last month anon.
>>726090912I want an archetype that can search Elfnote monsters AND Flelf.
>>726090912That elf looks like she mates with apes
>>726091274Only fiends, plants, and fairies like a proper elf.
>>726091274kek
That Mitsurugi trap is such a nigger cardI didn't see it get played in TCG lists, it's everywhere in MD and it's obnoxious as fuck
>>726092187It does get played in TCG just slightly less commonly because you don't need to worry about ever putting up disruptions in few summons should you get Maxx C'd and can instead just throw in every ED extender to bridge through every archetype known to man to get 1 more total disruption on your endboard.>ermmm but what about FuwalosI am making things up.
>>726092187TCG lists tend to be more streamlined just because the BO3 format combined with how tournaments work means that the metagame tends to consolidate around a few decks and so you deckbuild accordingly. On Master Duel, the meta is a lot wider, so a lot of decks will route their combos slightly differently just so they can put up more diverse interaction. Good example of this is the Mitsurugi trap right now but you'd see this all the time even back during the Eldlich days. People would run the Eldlich counter trap just in case their opponent was on some random strategy, so you'd always have some form of omni-negation available. It's the consequence of a much broader metagame alongside no side decking. All your answers need to be in one list, and that list needs to be answering a lot more than usual.
ANOTHER BILLION SUPPORT CARDS TO SKY DILATERS
Purulia or Fuwa? What are the other good Level 4+ handtraps?
>>726095057There's a real argument for running Meowls or Skull Meister if you just want level 4 hand traps for Onomat/Ryzeal/Rank 4 shenanigans I'm assuming. Malice is still showing up in ladder despite the limits and Apo ban because the deck is still nuts, Mitsurugi summons from grave a lot, and more importantly activates in grave. They both cover off-meta stuff like Onomat and Lunalight, which will probably be popular this season at least. Retaliating C is also good into Ryzeal just because, yeah a ritual deck is going to proc it's effect a lot. Token Collector also exists but I don't think any deck besides Sky Striker regularly summons a token.
>>726092187Have you seen the other Mitsu trap there is a one card combo that sets it up so you use it twice to banish 16 cards from their hand and extra deck
>Win 1 event Duel>Get 800 gemsCan't believe I tried to get into MTGA when this game exists.
>>726095978As someone who used to play MTG and likes the core game better than Yugioh, Arena fucking sucks so much.
>go first vs Maliss>their opening hand is Magnamhut, Fuwa, Impulse, Crossout, Dormousethis shit is insanity, im running 20 handtraps and still cannot stop this shit
>>726068716The point updates are only a problem in these early stages where things are inherently more volatile. A lot of the first wave point allocations were as a result of them freezing the points and inhouse testing not reflecting what actual players would be running. The only problem with the second wave is unironically that Handtraps got reduced point allocations and a couple of engines got missed (Odion off the top of my head). Also, the fact that yugituber queers aren't latching onto it is a positive thing. It demonstrates that the format is healthy when all those drama-baiting faggots can latch onto is the point updates.
>>726095978>>726096675Arena is pure judaism.
>>726096675you need to pray they open bad enough to go to almirage then impulse whatever they have left in their hand
>>726096675That's nothing. I opened 5 handtraps against Fiendsmith Snake-Eyes Azamina and ended the turn with 0 cards in hand. I topdecked a starter only for it to get negated.
>>726059312It was kinda popular during the first two weeks, but has kinda died down to only like 5-7 players in my local scene. Talking with others there, most agreed that banning links and pends is a stupid decision and some handtraps weren't hit hard enough. It's okay, but it just feels like the same as advance's handtrap slop just with slightly weaker decks and fewer decks to play with.
>>726097363I really don't know what to do against this besides go first and pray I opened macro cosmosEven that doesn't work that well
>>726097363>I opened 5 handtraps against Fiendsmith Snake-Eyes Azamina and ended the turn with 0 cards in hand.how?
>>726098364It sounds like he used 5 hand traps and then they weren't in his hand anymore.
>>726098364Zombie VampireMillenniums might have been the most disastrous design oversight, but Rank 8 Chaos Ruler should have been banned long ago.Snake-Eyes had more ways to get to Flamberge than Branded does to Branded Fusion.
Handtraps dont work
>>726099027They work a little too well unfortunately.Which is bullshit because at least with backrow spells/traps you know they are there.
>>726099027Why are you using winter cherries?
>>726099027Depends on the hand trap and what deck it is used against
Retaliating C is dogshit I never go against Mitsurugi
Lycoris likes Maxx "C", why don't you?
Maxx C is soulless
>>726099504She only likes it because she fucks bugs
Why is the Yu-Gi-Oh community fearmongering? Master Duel is the best doing card game on steam.
>>726099027Disruption handtraps suck now outside of Dominus Impulse. It's floodgate handtraps or bust. Well, except Dimension Shifter. No one wants to feed MⱯLICE.
>>726100434That's a nice dancing fairy. Traptrix fags are the bug/plant fuckers.>>726100889Popularity isn't indicative of quality.
Love Lab
>>726101995Pride deck
>>726101995Can you please make yourself useful for once and teach me how to play her deck? I had fun with it until Big Welcome and Lady dropped and I've had no idea what I was doing since.Give me the full 20lbs of pussy and ass
>>726102291it is the easiest shit to pilot but it is pretty useless; there are better stuff out there, like Traptrix
>>726102408Traptrix isn't better than Labrynth. That's a coinflip deck that almost always dies going second unless you draw a floodgate handtrap or double Evenly Matched. Meanwhile, I get styled on by t0 Lab plays. That shit's really cool. I want to learn this stuff.
Ranked is full of fucking liggers
>>726102685Mikanko is the answer
I just want to play blue eyes
>>726084309he looks playable for sure, but I dunno if he's good enough to fix the whole mess that the deck is nowadays. if Fountain + Miracle Ejector are enough to cut the Vision slop and maybe the Destiny slop, then the deck might be looking good going foward>>726084426they're dropping these main deck Masked HEROs at a snail's pace. knowing Konami, they'll forget about it before it manages to become its own thing
>>726102829best deck ever, I can't wait for the new support
>>726102951What's stopping you
>>726102976I get too horny when i look at the deck
>>726099027honest handtraps like Ash don't work anymore in this age of dishonest engines
>>726090671>and the deck is the strongest it's been since before the Perlereino ban.Is it really? Seems like gem knights and orange light are doing the heavy lifting.
>>726103000Same but with Magician GirlsExcept they also can't be used in anything serious, somewhat enjoyable in singleplayer games but even there it's playing reactive.
>>726083076It isn't fun anymore.
>>726077090> opened Kusanagi and/or Murakumo in 4 of 10 hands. That shouldn't be possible if the shuffler was fair.Drawing Kusanagi is not that big of a problem in a deck with so many 1-card starters. You can still use ritual and send it to graveyard. The big garnets are Murakumo and Saji, if you draw either your combo has to differ drastically from the normal line (if it's possible at all). I play these at 2 because of that.
>>726079240>What's worse is that you can't steal these omni-negates to use them against your opponent to break their board.Barring examples that leave the field, how do you know when a monster negate can be used by your opponent if they steal the monster?
>>726081672>based but same problem as MR4 where archetypes needed years waiting on new support to be halfway playableWhat changed?
>>726082731Kek those niggers really disappeared
>>726084603Probably a bad comparison since Yubel can already shit out monsters on the field and the deck doesn't lack links to access.
>>726083864Sounds kino, never seen it though
>>726087459But then you could just use Fire Dance or Mayowashidori to bring them back right?
>>726083782He'd have new (albeit shit) cards that support the pile deck he plays that allow him to win.>>726084440>No he can't, he only had that ability when he faced Yugi in the ceremonial duelShut up dumbass. The Millennium Puzzle grants its user LUCK. Atem can literally draw any card he wants because of that (I'm not saying he selects the card, I'm saying he gets the card he needs). Also, the luck from the Millennium Puzzle doesn't just affect the Duel Monsters card game, it affects whatever the fuck Atem wants, which is why the early Yu-Gi-Oh manga (or "Season 0" of the anime) had him killing people left and right in death games.
>>726084243>It's HERO time
>>726086292>>726086428Why do cards curl bros? Is it the cheap cardboard?
>>726086464>Speaking of Yugi, how are his new retrained cards? Do they make a good deck? The deck (Shining Sarc) is alright. Can occasionally win duels against the lower meta (as long as there aren't a lot of disruptions). >Do the retrains make Silent cards good now?The new Silent cards are ok with the deck. Probably their best iteration to date, but still not great.
>>726087348>that somehow made it through tournaments by sheer determination.Joey is in the top 5 best duelist in the lore btw
>>726087204Illusions are more of a Pegasus thing.
Xyz ruined the game. Just an absolute brainless move on Konami's part.
>>726099504But does Lycoris like Maxx "C" almost as much as /our/ carpet muncher Dakki and her dildo?
>>726071667That was never played
>>726095648Post it
>>726111231
>>726102291Nta but look up YouTube vids for understanding how the deck plays by watching replays. There aren't really combos as such, it's more about trap interaction and sequencing. The deck is hella fun and FAST so you won't waste 10 mins comboing.>>726102408>Muh le lolisUnironic gay nigger shit
>>726111184Possibly more. It's said that when a player activates Maxx "C", suddenly 3 Lycoris will show up on the opponent field along with a face down trap card.
>>726111724>Muh le lolisthey are insects and plant bro
>>726111869They are bait that look like little girls as. what does that tell you?
>>726111996they hunt pedos? that's based
>>726110416it has to do with the foil material, from what I understand. if I had to guess, it probably shrinks/expands depending on temperature more than the cardboard, so it ends up creating a bias towards one face of the card
>>726108938From the requirements (like requiring having specific cards on your field, in your grave, etc.) or from bein soft once-per-turn.
>>726114198Only HOPT can be used if stolen? Why is that?
