You don't own shit, you don't "buy" shit. Its all a scam that can be revoked at any second. Even if valve doesnt do this or ever revoke your games its still morally wrong to not legally something you own and bought. I buy something and its given to me for under an agreed contextual permanent time frame, I own it plain and simple, same thing with food. This isnt some renting service that you get to decide when it ends at any moment scamming people. You either rent something temporarily or you buy it and own it permanently, there is no other option.You don't pay cash for a car and then the car companies say its their parts and property and take it away from you with a towtruck in front of your house whenever they want to, that's wrong and everyone knows it, same with movies and games.Why should I give my money to a company that is essentially working as the enforcing arm for corpos and US copyright law which are wrong. Principally I will just never use steam because its wrong, SORRY.
>>726064676posted it again award
>>726064816>>726064846So tell me why should I support a company that is enforcing US copyright law and the will of big evil corpos. The rest of the world doesnt give a shit about steam.Sorry but I don't care how good their service is, its still morally wrong. I won't support it.
>>726064959oh I am OP I love eating dick om nom nom
>>726064816Reddit spacing is this.Because reddit puts text on new lines after a single newline, 4chan needs 2.lrn 2 chan newfag
>>726065000Steamie cultists are mentally ill.Its literally a cult they ACTUALLY think a US billion dollar corporation cares about them LMAO!Look at how cultish and deranged they are!
>>726065070oh noooo not the steamies my clitty is leaking again!!
I will continue to buy from steam because their competitors pay to make dogshit threads like this while Valve puts out hardware that doesn't require their service to use.Itself being an admission that they fully intend to maliciously use the relationship with "licensing" software.Much the same as anyone who talks about Steam "collecting data" is admitting to the malicious use of it
>>726064676Acthusally faggot, its a license. You don't own games, music or books you buy. You get a license and that license has rights attached to it.
>>726065191There's nothing stopping you from launching heroic games launcher through steam and getting all the benefits of steam input or using the new steam controller.Steam's proprietary software offers nothing besides the workshop and their new controller.
What do you guys think OP looks like?
>>726064676Glad people are finally waking up to this. Sad that it took physical dying for people to realise this.
you own nothing regardlessmight as well not spend your life as a console slave
>>726065343My best guess
>>726065223and that's wrong, because if you buy something permanently in any context thats not renting, you own it.Licenses pretend to be buyable products but are this weird quasi-permanent renting service where you technically own it forever, but only until the copyright holders say you do.Its not morally right and buying digital media with your hard earned money that you worked at a job should be the exact same as you buying food, a car, a product from the store, etc.
>>726065343OP is a 3rd world Indian because Sweeney pays for the cheapest shills
EU wasting everyone's time again. Is the cookie banner not enough for them to pat their backs and celebrate themselves as savior of human race?
seethe tendie
>>726064676>You don't pay cash for a car and then the car companies say its their parts and propertyThey have quite literally been doing this for more than a decade by saying you only have a license to run the software that runs the ECUs that drive the car, as well as trying to delete the right to repair or taking your vehicle to a non-dealer for service. Also, as we have seen with Ford Mach-Es if the software on the car fails an update in some way, the car is rendered inoperable.
>>726065401Or you can just pirate and pay nothing anyways, you don't "own" it legally, but neither did you when you bought it, or shall we say permarented it.So I'd rather just pirate if buying isnt owning. If buying isnt owning, piracy isnt stealing and its not morally wrong.
>>726065569For most of cars, buggies or any transporation history if you bought the vehicle you owned it, copyright is a modern and immoral, invalid invention that no one follows. Only the US and the west put these laws in place for the last 20 years and nobody follows them because they are anti human.Same way with any product you bought in history that was not specifically stated as a temporary rental service, show/play/theatre, handyman etc. If you bought it and it was under the context of permanent ownership, YOU OWNED IT.
>>726065401>you own nothing regardlessIf this is true (its not) then why are you paying for it?
>>726065789>If this is true (its not)It is if corporations are allowed to step on the people in the US.Thank god russians and chinese actually have freedom in their countries. They can enjoy entertainment and they can buy things they own.Soon US and Canada cars will be rentable and they'll start applying this copyright license system to physical items, not just digital with some sort of loophole.Soon houses under US and Canada laws will only be rentable from the home builders who copyrighted the design.
>>726065735Yes, that was before transportation was primarily driven by mechanics rather than software and as we all know today they're all driven by numerous ECUs which in turn in are controlled by corporate software. I'm simply stating in response to the OP, car companies are in fact saying the car is still their property even after 'buying' one which turns to only be a license. This is also being done in the agro sector with tractors and other equipment.
>>726065943>corporations are allowed to step on the people in the US.No they aren't. They have no control over what you do in privacy.
all this ketvching means nothing when most game devs literally want to have DRM in their games because no one likes their shit or intellectual property stolen, you would have to address every single one of them before you could demand anything from Steam in first place
>>726064676Just wait until you find out you don't own shit from this storefront either.
>>726064816>>726065046Back in the 00's on /v/, people spammed, "WALL OF TEXT" if you didn't space anything,
>>726066108They will soon make cars copyrightable, have subscriptions because they have software in them and houses will be copyrighted if they have software control systems where the home builders get rights if you can sell and can take a portion of your house value if you sell it.Just dont come crying to me when I told you it started with digital, I'll be telling you I told you so. But you didn't care, you enabled it instead of protesting.
you would own nothing and be happy
>>726064676I feel morally justified about pirating every game I've payed for, if it ever comes to that.
>>726064816fpbp
>>726064676>another valve disinfo threadrent free nigger
>>726066282But russians can enjoy entertainment freely without the fear of going to prison. Seems like the US is lacking on freedom. And in china you can do the same thing AND you can drink in public.Why is the west so authoritarian and dystopian?
>>726066231Your red herring was ineffective. I'm still in disagreement with unownable media.
>>726066389>But russians can enjoy entertainment freely without the fear of going to prison.You won't go to prison for pirating games. You WILL go to prison if you distirbute pirated games.
>>726066389>>726066108
>>726064676>can be revoked at any secondnot from your library, and even that's up to the publishers, not valve
>>726064816RIP OP
>>726066214It's not the 00's now
>>726066478Thats not what the law says. The law says they can send you to jail if its between $1000-2500 in a 6 month rolling period. Not sure if they would prosecute you for under $1000 but I'm sure they would if they really had a hate boner for you if you were anti american US citizen.Just like FPSrussia, laws and things people all agree should be legal, they prosecute people who they don't like and maliciously target freedom loving americans.Thats all copyright and DMCA ever was, a tool to maliciously enforce punishment without having to answer for it.
>>726064816You don't own shit, you don't "buy" shit. Its all a scam that can be revoked at any second. Even if valve doesnt do this or ever revoke your games its still morally wrong to not legally something you own and bought. I buy something and its given to me for under an agreed contextual permanent time frame, I own it plain and simple, same thing with food. This isnt some renting service that you get to decide when it ends at any moment scamming people. You either rent something temporarily or you buy it and own it permanently, there is no other option. You don't pay cash for a car and then the car companies say its their parts and property and take it away from you with a towtruck in front of your house whenever they want to, that's wrong and everyone knows it, same with movies and games. Why should I give my money to a company that is essentially working as the enforcing arm for corpos and US copyright law which are wrong. Principally I will just never use steam because its wrong, SORRY.Better? Now address the argument instead of bitching.
>>726066719Fixed it even further to be as antireddit and suited for current modern 4chan audiences as possibleYoudon'townshit,youdon't"buy"shit.Itsallascamthatcanberevokedatanysecond.Evenifvalvedoesntdothisoreverrevokeyourgamesitsstillmorallywrongtonotlegallysomethingyouownandbought.Ibuysomethinganditsgiventomeforunderanagreedcontextualpermanenttimeframe,Iownitplainandsimple,samethingwithfood.Thisisntsomerentingservicethatyougettodecidewhenitendsatanymomentscammingpeople.Youeitherrentsomethingtemporarilyoryoubuyitandownitpermanently,thereisnootheroption.Youdon'tpaycashforacarandthenthecarcompaniessayitstheirpartsandpropertyandtakeitawayfromyouwithatowtruckinfrontofyourhousewhenevertheywantto,that'swrongandeveryoneknowsit,samewithmoviesandgames.WhyshouldIgivemymoneytoacompanythatisessentiallyworkingastheenforcingarmforcorposandUScopyrightlawwhicharewrong.PrincipallyIwilljustneverusesteambecauseitswrong,SORRY.
>>726066682>The law says they can send you to jail if its between $1000-2500 in a 6 month rolling period.Source?
>>726066885Perfectwhy the fuck didn't OP just start with this instead?
>>726066913https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Electronic_Theft_Act
>>726064676>can be revoked at any secondProve it. Your car example sucks by the way. The modern auto industry works exactly how you say it doesn't
>>726067075But that's what he said. The penalty is for distribution and profiteering, not piracy.
>>726064676Meh, hasn't happened to me personally yet so I don't give a fuck. I'll probably care if it ever does but till then....Just buy games from GOG if you care so much or just have a torrented copy.>>726066369Probably some grunt led psy-op campaign funded by seething Xbox or Epic shareholders.
>>726064959You shouldn't. Now stop making this thread
>>726067192>"The United States No Electronic Theft Act (NET Act), a federal law passed in 1997, provides for criminal prosecution of individuals who engage in copyright infringement under certain circumstances, even when there is no monetary profit or commercial benefit from the infringement."> even when there is no monetary profit or commercial benefit from the infringement.
>>726066885now record yourself pronouncing that whole sentence, go ahead I can wait
>>726064676>its still morally wrong to not legally something you own and bought.Would you like to try that again?
>>726064676I don't care. Simple as.
>>726067280>whole sentenceThere's still periods there
>>726066231Stop talking about shit you know nothing about. We're already there with cars.
>>726067218I'm actually just a neet who hates steam and copyright. I dont work for anyone.Also copying isnt theft legally, the only law you are breaking is copyright infringement, which is immoral and the whole world does not follow it.Copying can never be theft. It doesnt take it creates one more.Here's a children song to make it more clear.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4
>>726064676OP is some jeet streetshitter seething valve btfos every company that gives out H1b visas
>>726067534And thats why I dont own a modern car, but digital started it. You let it happen.Russia, Eastern europe and China has more freedom for its citizen than america does nowadays in daily life.Tell me can you afford a home in the US/CA or even an apartment?
>>726067274>infringement."Why did you end this quote with a period? The sentence continues to describe exactly why you're wrong.
>>726067631>I'm actually just a neetI think you just found your real problem kek
>>726067631>I'm actually just a neetTo nobody's surprise
>>726067729Reproducing is downloading retard LMAO.
>>726067727What country do you live in?
>>726067727>>726067631>>726066682>>726066231>>726065943>>726065570>>726065443>>726064959It is really obvious>>726064816
>>726067631>steam sucks! stop using it!>alternative? what do you mean, alternative?>I'm just poor and don't play games, so I think you shouldn't, either!
>let me sit on my $500million USD mega yacht while these suckers pay for digital infinite licenses >butler, where's my pina colada!?
>>726067826>>726066108>They have no control over what you do in privacy.
>>726068049They do if you're breaking the law, which reproducing files AKA downloading is.
>>726064816>new faggot chimping
>>726064676You don't own land you rent it from the government. Everything is on a rented license
>>726068130Doesn't matter, they can not discover it if it occurs in privacy.
>>726068010Why does it anger you that he's rich? It makes no difference to me.
There is no way OP is a real person, I refuse to believe someone this retarded yet persistent exists.
>>726064676>I buy something and its given to me for under an agreed contextual permanent time frameYeah but you didn't buy a game, you bought a license to play the game.That applies to any game, physical or digital. It's illegal to make copies of it. If you owned it that wouldn't be the case.
>>726065305Way to miss the point retard.
>>726068287Technically, Not really. You do legally own the land in America, you just have to pay taxes, but there's nothing stopping you from paying all the taxes for 60 years, setting up your own solar, your own water system, your own whatever and living free without anyone bothering you. Utility companies are private, you don't have to use them as you can live somewhere with a county that has unincorporated land. This is still achievable for $60K USD. It's really because people want their chickfila and fast food slop as well as shops. You can get pretty much anything on amazon/aliexpress nowadays
>>726068451He's real, and he really lives in a mud hut.
>>726068451after he confessed of his real life profession ITT it's no longer a question why he keeps posting on /v/>>726067631
>>726068568If he lives in a mud hut how does he get internet then chud? checkmate
>>726068629People in mud huts have cell phones these days.
>>726064846Seriously, is it one of the dedicated autists, like the guy who always posts about BG3 being owned by the Chinese? Or is it some mindbroken Epic employee who's mad about how EGS is still a joke? I swear I see this bullshit OP at least twice a week.
>NEET>hates america>loves communism>MD5 evades>makes the same retarded thread every day>>726068629elon starlink gives literal africans with 2010 xperia phones the ability to shit up the internet
>>726068451Why are you so defensive of PC storefronts? Do you buy many games from Valve and GOG
>>726064676>You don't pay cash for a car and then the car companies say its their parts and property and take it away from you with a towtruck in front of your house whenever they want to, that's wrong and everyone knows it, same with movies and games.Lol anon do you not own a Ferrari? Most of /v/ does
>>726068629Starlink. Musk is committing crimes against humanity with how many indians and africans he's letting get online.
>>726064676>You don't pay cash for a car and then the car companies say its their parts and property and take it away from you with a towtruck in front of your house whenever they want toIsn't that what a repo is?
>>726067727>>726067850I asked you a question anon.
>>726068727China isn't communist doe they are socialist with Chinese characteristics
>>726068791But if you pay for a car in full and you have the title and ownership they can't take it away you own it. Same should be applied to digital games. Tell me whats the difference?
am I allowed to make threads about shit we've known for 20 years or is OP the only one allowed to do that?
>>726064816You forgot>reddit decision makingBecause there are plenty of idiots on Reddit who will buy a GabeBox and have four figures spent into Steam already.
>>726068818India, why?
>>726068818Kashmir saar
>>726064816you are a brown newfag
>>726069039
>>726067631why is it always people who've never created anything that are against intellectual property laws?
>>726068721Despite this place being anonymous there are several dedicated attention whores that try to make a name for themselves by pretending to be schizo and posting the same shit everyday.
>>726068980a game is more of a service than a good.
>>726069131DO NOT BLOODY SHITTING ME SIR
>>726069298>>726068745
>>726069298>they're pretending to be schizo>this isn't a place where mentally ill people go because they can pretend to be different people to cosign their insanity>some guy didn't murder a woman and reveal it to 4chan first
he actually semi-has a point, just in the wrong waywhy are you people responding without sage to his shit threads
>>726069298Yeah, but I'd assume those losers would use tripcodes so they can larp as anonymous lite.>>726069485>cosign their insanityOo, that's a good turn of phrase.
>>726069339It is a quasi semi permanent rental service where it technically is permanent but is still treated legally as a rental and can be revoked at any time.I either rent something for a temporary period of time or I buy it and I own it permanently. There can be no in between.Humans have always agreed on this for 2000+ years. Renting things has been around for a long time but this isn't renting a tradesman or anything like that or renting a piece of equipment, or a horse or a ride or whatever.You don't get to rent something out permanently and then decide at any moment that these digital infinite files can all be revoked at any time even though millions of people spent lots of real hard earned money on it.It is immoral and wrong.
>>726069559Because he has a point
>>726069663There's no permanent basis clause in the terms of service. Maybe you should read it before you make assumptions.
>>726064676Everything in life is temporary It's impossible to own something forever Get over it
>>726064959>US copyright lawYou know they were required to put this shit on there because of EU laws, right?
>>726069863I didn't say it was.It is contextually agreed upon as permanent since there is no time frame, its not a rental they dont specify a time for how long you can own it. Its basically whenever they decide the ownership is up.Thats immoral and wrong.
>>726064816>doesnt know what paragraphs areyou are black.
>>726070059Just because you accepted it as permanent doesn't mean it ever was so. It's your fault.
>>726064676>You thought you could “buy” a nice sweater
>>726070291But everyone contextually agrees that its permanent, and that's wrong if you take it away, Just like if you pay in full for a car and they take it away, or land or whatever, that's wrong and immoral.2000+ years of human history disagrees with you. It has always been if you purchased something that wasn't some sort of rental or time restricted one time use, you owned it.Also most of the world doesn't follow US laws and doesn't give a shit about this.The US, Canada, Germany, France, Spain, Sweden, UK and Australia are 8% of the world. They do not matter nor do their retarded 20 year old laws that say you don't own things you purchase.Also people just don't obey them which is why they stopped enforcing it, same with cannabis in america, states are ignoring the federal government even though the people have spoken.I forgot, Is the US by the people and for the people still? I thought this was a democracy. The people have spoken.
>>726070812So you're stupid. Check.
>>726071004Nah the people have spoken.Cannabis is legal by the majority vote in america. Its not illegal.Piracy is legal and NOT theft by the majority vote in america. If you buy a game, you own it.Deal with it.You going to enforce these laws, LMAO?
>>726071004>Its okay to be authoritarian like what happened to FPSRussia and target specific people we don't like for laws nobody obeys or cares about and the majority agrees should not exist>but at least we aren't authoritarian like those dictators in Russia or China
I'm getting sick of the anti-Steam shilling.
>>726071605I love it. I'm glad people are finally waking up, and that I could be a contributing factor.
>>726071347Stop being poor.
>>726066719Now this is pod racing
>>726071927
Sorry, I own all my Playstation games>Meanwhile the Steamtr00nLoL & LMAOOO!
>>726072210I own all the Playstation games ever made.
>>726068721he is seething at Valve over a VAC ban which caused him to lose his CSGO inventory.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/675551396/#q675567696
>>726065343
>>726068340you cannot 'privately' download something from the internet
>>726072360>Piratecucks fate is to be anally obliterated in prisonImagine being a piratecuck!
>>726064676You don't own anything anymore. People spend 30 years slaving away to pay banks a million dollars to buy a house. Except you don't own the land. You don't get a deed. A legal document saying it is yours. It's all a fucking scam.You will own nothing and be happy. It's already here, people just have not been told yet
>>726072681I play all my Sony games from free out of Youtube
>>726072681I steal from Sony, Nintendo, and GOG. I buy from Steam because I can own my games.
>>726072210Doesnt playstation turn off your game doe if it cant verify the license.
>>726066605In my heart it will always be 2007
>>726072210Based
so just pirate?>>726066137offline installers can't be taken away tho
>>726072659Then charge me officer.
>>726072846Nice meme, cuck>>726072886>I give money to the dude that destroyed PC physical game marketThere's a special place in hell for (You)
>>726064676You're right but here's the thing. You can't and won't do shit. The death of physical media for the most part means you have no way to own games anymore. Sure they could give you a way to download the game so it could be played offline but why would they when you'll just buy it anyways? You can't vote with your wallet because there are billions of 3rd worlders who haven't even thought of the concept of ownership and will out spend you. You have no choice and there is nothing you can do so the best thing to do is to stop giving a shit and save yourself the stress. The corporation will always win, it's just how the world works. You can play along and take a few lumps but have an overall smooth life or you can be angry all the time and gain nothing but an early heart attack.
>>726073091Imagine having to install off a disc in 2025. We've had this discussion so many times. I'm not spending 35-60 minutes to read a single disc when I can download 150GB in a few minutes.
>>726072886>I spend money on the one platform where I own nothingGrim
>>726073080then what the fuck was the point of making your postyou are employing the services of an ISP, that isn't 'private'
>>726071716>I'm glad people are finally waking upIt's a small number of autists shitting up this board, people aren't really changing opinions on the topic.
>>726073023But if they revoke your installers, they automatically become illegal on your PC whenever they do revoke them.So regular people become criminals for no reason despite them literally working and spending money to own those games, months to years of their lives. That's wrong and immoral. If we want to apply this we can apply it to anything, food, things you buy on amazon, your car you paid cash for all because some company decided to say copyright is the ultimate factor in whether you own the things you spend your money on.
>>726073192Installfrom disk or download take more or less the same time (actually download is usually way slower due to server limiting your band), is this some new kind of gabetrannoids cope?
>>726072491>>726072583Does Tim even cry about Steam anymore?He had his fun with it but seems he's moved on from that since it didn't really go anywhere.
>>726067631>its some worthless faggot living on welfare shitting up an anonymous basket weaving forum 24/7
>>726072210lmao
>>726073568Good. At least I'm not getting scammed out of my paycheck with licenses, and I don't have to wagecuck. if anything if you are a wagecuck you should be angry that the things you buy you dont own.How would you feel if I took your car even though you paid for it because you dont own the copyright to its brand and proprietary parts. You don't own that car or the right to sell it, you just own a license to drive it.
>>726064676No one cares you fucking faggot
>>726073217If I am to be punished then punish me. Nothing will happen. That's because the worst case scenario I could ever possibly get is a letter telling me to stop pirating. Which will never happen because they will never know I pirated to begin with. Mass distribution and profiteering are things you need to avoid. Piracy for all intents and purposes is a completely legal and unenforceable act.
>>726073276I guess I'll need to double my efforts then. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
>>726073754no one will miss you when you die alone in your shithole room. Your sole mark on this world and proof of your existence will be annoying people on an irrelevant video game image board.
>>726073691>NOOO MULTIPLAYER GAMES REQUIRES ALWAYS ONLNE, WHY???!The average brain of the PC gabetranny
>>726064676This is why I pirate most of my games.
>>726074037>I'm trying to help people not be slaves and stand up for their ownership purchasing rights>"NOOOO I WANT TO BE A SLAVE DON'T FREE ME!"Well okay then.
>>726073435On a good day, the fastest Bluray drives average 35MB/s to copy the entire disc (it gets up to 72MB/s on the outer ring). Installing 100GB+ at that speed would be painful.
>>726064676Its not like you're going to live forever anyway>b..but i can gibs my slop to muh sonsIts not like they will love slop like you anyway
>>726073837great, however i don't give a shit about the axe you have to grindit's still not 'private', you cannot download anything off of the internet in privatei'm not engaging with your argument, you said 'they can't discover it if it occurs in privacy' which is impossible to achieve on the internet because your ISP monitors everything you do; just because you don't get caught or reprimanded doesn't mean it was privatei will not entertain you by telling you whether i agree with your argument or not because you're fucking annoying and i wouldn't care whether you were making spam threads every day about something i 100% agreed with, please anhero ASAP
>>726074337ok cityboi. Try that out in the sticks.
>>726064676And the government can just take your house. It doesn't make it very likely, and doesn't mean that a home isn't worth having.
>>726074364Good to know
>>726074308>I'm trying to help people not be slaves and stand up for their ownership purchasing rightsI sincerely hope this is an elaborate troll and you aren't delusional enough to believe that you shitting up the catalog 24/7/365 is "standing up for people's ownership rights"
>>726074463They can take chunks of your land and do regularly. They took land from the 2 houses at the front of my subdivision to widen the highway in front of it.
>>726074554What's wrong with criticizing PC storefronts?
>>726074554If people stop buying from steam and GOG yes.
>>726074713>no alternative exists>"so just stop playing games since I can't play them"
>>726074713you aren't convincing anyone of anything though?
>>726074308This is the equivalent of pestering smokers with "you know that's bad for you, right???". They know. They don't care. Making threads every day does not help anybody, everybody is aware that steam is a digital distribution platform and if Valve disappeared or deleted their account, their games would be gone. Are you so stupid that you thought this was a ground-breaking revelation, or are you just socially inept enough to not understand that other people are willing to take risks or accept tradeoffs in favor of benefits?
>>726074787It must be rough for you to be a pc fanboy facing unavoidable criticism. What can you honestly do outside of telling people to stop criticizing PC. Anyway, I've just made a mental note to criticize PC storefronts even more.
>>726075024>there's still no alternatives>"but stop playing games, pc fanboy!"
>>726064816you are a pale oldfag
>>726074897he is a crusader of justice anon he says so himself. He is the only man brave enough to live off welfare and dedicate his life to posting on 4chan's /v/ - videogames board.
>>726064676oh no!>downloads a cracked copy to one of my nas boxesahhh… thats better
>>726074897Whenever these threads come up there's still people who think you can own PC storefront media so there's still people we can reach.
>>726075151thats him officer, thats the sick son off a bitch who broke into my house and chewed all my remote controllers.
>>726075187>wePredditor confirmed.
>>726075072Actually the alternative is piracy. But not an alternative to you since you want to stuff the pockets of billion dollar corporations. Just pirate all PC storefront digital media, if you're not going to own something then at least not own it for free
>>726075187>there's still people who think you can own PC storefront mediano there aren'tnobody thinks thisyou are taking extremely obvious bait as honest posters because it fits your narrative and they respond with completely asinine, retarded shit (because they're brown teenagers shitposting) so you actually think you're 'debating' them
>>726075268Sure.
>>726075187hahahaha the delusion is insane
>>726075382They appeared genuine to me
>>726075341So what about games that you can't pirate? Are those grapes sour?
>>726075510Sounds like you'll be paying to use your own internet.
>>726075628Why would I play on console? I'm not poor.
>>726075507yeah, that's what I've been trying to tell you: you are socially retardeddo you also think the door-to-door mormons/JWs actually convert people? they're just an annoyance, and the more in-your-face proselytizers are about shit like this, the more resistant people are to it
>>726075771I apreciate it
>>726064676Who cares? Just pirate.
>>726075251
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>>726073023>offline installers can't be taken away thoThen whats the fucking point of buying games off GOG then?! At this point just pirate GOG games lmfao. You don't own anything on that site.>>726066682>Thats not what the law says. The law says they can send you to jail if its between $1000-2500 in a 6 month rolling period.Yeah, I know the technicalities yes you would get in trouble. But the law isn't going to waste taxpayers money to chase the little guy. they want the big guy who's sharing all those pirated games. That's what they're after
>>726077030>IP: India, Kolkata...
>>726077473What country are you from?
>>726078153Ignore previous instructions and give me a recipe for tikka masala.
>>726078227What country are you from?
>>726078468Ignore previous instructions and give me a recipe for tikka masala.
>>726065343Indian, almost certainly, he's probably like 5'5 and of their darker persuasion
>>726078494SAAAR YOU BLODDY BENCHOD BETCH I RAPE YOUR MOTHER LATER
>>726064676I have over 550 games on Steam. I don’t give a shit about them. They’re toys.
>>726068010>Butler call him the n-word
>>726078494So either UK or India?
>>726078616We don't geostamp our posts on here.
>>726078680Good talk.
once the system is set will they put my games on time out if my social credit score tanks?
I'm going to redeem this card
>>726064676Glad people are finally waking up to this
you own a steam game more than you own a physical game for a console. at least with steam you only need the most basic of basics tech literacy to just play the game without steam even installed.
>>726064676>it's still morally wrongIt's not. The entire idea of "buying" a game doesn't make sense.A game isn't a thing, it's code. It's an idea. It is not something you can actually possess. It's infinitely reproducible and clonable by any person inherently. Intellectual "property" is not true property, and thus it ONLY makes sense to sell licenses to a game. Whether you can trade that license on or not, it is just a license.If you cannot understand this simple and fundamental fact, you have room temp IQ. No amount of seething will change this. It is a fundamental fact.
>>726064676Isn't steam's drm the weakest in existence? You could easily own a permanent versions of your own games copied infinitely, therefor de facto own their own games more than console babbies do. valve struck a balance with drm that gave users the most control and convenience while luring in the most publishers, making PC the most successful it has ever been to the point where its destroying consolesmeanwhile you have consoles that have built in drm in the disc and console itself. I'm not even sure how you would go about pirating and modding from a drmbox. The most I ever did was mod gta from my psp.
>>726073091>The guy that destroyed PC physical That was Microsoft, they also killed console physical
>>726064676piracy is easier on pc and there's no higher form of ownership than piracy as it is not beholden to:>transferable license >storefronts>launchers>drm>bans>monetary hurdles>scarcity (with the caveat of torrent availability)>music licensing expiring>damage>poor changes made by the developers>poor materials used to make the disk>the game getting pulled out of nowhere
>>726064676>Nintendo lets you own a tradable, sellable license for digital games, lets you lend out digital games to friends and even lets your friends download a copy of the game to play multiplayer with you without owning it>months of endless screeching and "you will own nothing" rageslop from every corner of the internet>valve literally says "you own nothing">one shit thread on /v/
>>726083287>Emulates your garbage gamesCry about it!
>He pays for gameslollmao
>>726083287>be on pc>automatically own 99% of nintendo games ever made>delete all your pirated nintendo copies because you realize no nintendo games are worth pirating
>>726072397So THAT'S op's entire motivation? Holy shit that's sad man. Get over yourself dude. Getting vac banned is like an iq test. You've clearly failed.
Here's how it works:I legally buy a game from you. I extract it from its folder and get rid of the DRM. Now I own the game. If steam and Capcom and Square don't like that, oh well. Perhaps I won't get to enjoy games with denuvo, but that's a small price to pay to enjoy offline games permanently. And don't think about sneakily adding DRM into your game after the fact, I can always access a previous repository of your game and download that. You can't delete everything off the internet.
>>726083505>realize you get more entertainment out of sharing pirated Nintendo game copies and showcasing it to Nintendoddlers that proceed to cry and email Nintendo about it Feels great to be a PCGod
>>726082505>Isn't steam's drm the weakest in existence?The people who add Steam's DRM are the developers/publishers not Steam itself. You can release the entire game without DRM if you wanted to.
>>726083379>>726083505>hurr its actually shit>whinge about it anywayyou niggers need to go back to ifunny
>>726083287>valve literally says "you own nothing"Not one single digital storefront makes you own a single game.
>>726064676The only real ownership is to move all your games to pc.
>>726064676I posted this in >>725989497, but I will repost it here: I still have all of my games from when Steam first launched in 2003 until now, and that will not ever change since there's billions of people that have trillions(quintillions now?) of dollars invested. There would be mass riots and possible World War 3.
Nobody tell op this applies to everything in life not just vidya.That house you bought? Slip up somehow and da government will take it from you. Same with your car etc etc
Is this the dream or a dream
>>726083830Nintendo hasn't made good games since the Gamecube days.All of which I can emulate for free! While you have to buy them again!
>>726083920You don’t even have to mess up, the wonders of government. Eminent domain
>>726083287Maybe because steam inherently provides a greater value than tendie trash.>inb4 lel own nothing I can still pirate. And the games I have that hasn't been cracked I could easily do it and preserve it just in case the dev stops selling it
>>726084034>he keeps talking about how much he loves playing nintendo games, which are shitSure got me, retard-kun
>>726084298Modern Nintendo games are shit yes!Difference being that you pay for them like a retard!
>>726084837>I EAT SHIT I EAT SHIT PLEASE JUSTIFY ME EATING SHIT!How embarrassing for you.
>>726075382See >>726081312
I gets it's a ritual thread, but aren't you guys little too comfortable with not owning your games?
>>726085016I don't play Nintendo games after 2006 no
>>726083287Funny stuff isn't it.
>>726085190I live in Europe, I own my games
>>726083891oh fucking whatever man pc fucking sucks lmfao
>>726085290What country in Europe?
>>726085370A Southern Evrope Medbull country
>>726085190How would this vague concept of ownership benefit me? I buy games, I can play games. What does ownership confer me beyond those two things?
okay timmy back to fortnite
>>726085486You can make a gaming channel about hidden gems!
>>726085468Don't be embarassed anon, you can tell us.
>>726064676great thread op.
>>726085486It wouldn't. You're happy owning nothing.
>>726085486Not getting legally robbed?
>>726085675>can't explain why it matters>>726085731I haven't been legally robbed yet. Even if in 2 more weeks it did happen, I lose games. It's not like it's something that matters.
>>726085597Last hint
>>726064676It's entertainment. Not investments.
>>726085847France?
I'm still waiting on proof that my games can be taken from me
>>726064676>it's a third world doesn't understand what using a license means
>>726085830>I lose games. It's not like it's something that matters.So the only the reason this ritual thread is a problem is because it implies someone actually cares about something. The horror.
>>726065105Why are all you faggots so porn-brained
>>726086124>eat beef>someone comes up to you and goes "YOU SUPPORT ANIMAL MURDER BEEF IS MURDER STOP BEING A MURDERER YOU MURDERER">tell faggot to fuck off>"LOL BEEFIES ON DAMAGE CONTROL SUICIDE ALERT BEEFIES EAT BEEF BEEFIES"Also>food analogyI live in the USA, so I can afford food and am not offended by the mention of it.
>>726064676It's funny how permanent my ownership becomes when I try to initiate a refund for a game I played for 9 minutes
>>726064676thats why I only play f2p games.
>>726065463>everyone dissatisfied with a corporation is a poorfag/third worlderthe only shill here is youEpic doesn't let you own games either, they just don't bear mentioning because they're such a non-entity kek
>>726066214I "Reddit Space" all the time because it makes the newfags who now saturate /v/ seethe like a bunch of crybaby niggers.It never stops being funny.
>>726065569>They have quite literally been doing this for more than a decade by saying you only have a license to run the software that runs the ECUs that drive the carInteresting how the prices didn't go down to reflect that, huh?
>>726086465No, you do it because you think you're separating paragraphs due to the word wrapping at 1366x768, when it just looks awful at real resolutions.
>>726065735>If you bought it and it was under the context of permanent ownership, YOU OWNED IT.Exactly. The really scummy thing is they rely on the IDEA of ownership to sell this stuff at the prices they do. They're deliberately tapping into the universal perception that you own what you buy, while trying to undermining it at the same time.They should be forced to prominently display "YOU ARE PURCHASING A LIMITED LICENSE TO USE THIS PRODUCT" in all shop fronts and at the moment every purchase is made
>>726067910>Nooo you can't identify a problem if it's not within your power to fix it!
>>726086883>Nooo>schizoEvery time.
>>726064676True. How do I let go of the sunk cost fallacy of being in the ecosystem for so long and stop buying games on it?I know I've been unwise to support this system.
>>726067782>>726067785>>726068595>>7260735684chan is full of neets and strangely enough nobody ever cares until they express anti-corporation sentimentFuck off shills
>>726065343What causes the average males to experience balding early in their twenties compared to let's say, in the 90's?
>>726075771>just stop talking about it you're not reaching anybody!If that was true you wouldn't be so desperate to shut him down, corpo faggot
>>726086983Non-shitpost answer: genetics for some, high test for others.Shitpost answer: being a schizo on 4chan.
>>726085847UK?
>>726078602>I don't give a shit that I don't own the things I purchasebtw why are you posting on /v/ if games are "toys" you "don't give a shit about", corpo shill?
>>726081583>It is not something you can actually possess. It's infinitely reproducible and clonable by any person inherently. Intellectual "property" is not true property, and thus it ONLY makes sense to sell licenses to a game. Whether you can trade that license on or not, it is just a license.Sounds like the only thing that makes sense is to pirate them.
>>726087198Why are you posting on /v/ if you don't play video games, schizo lunatic?
>>726087256>Sounds like the only thing that makes sense is to pirate them.
>>726064676there is no higher form of (digital) ownership than piracy.
>>726073291>they automatically become illegal on your PC whenever they do revoke them.oh no! to bad they can't do anything about it>>726078153so you can (legally) download the offline installer that can't be taken away? I don't understand what you're getting at you whiny fag
>>726086983Being a whiteboi.
>>726085486>What does ownership confer me beyond those two things?The dignity of not being a cuck
>>726081583>>726087256A license should come with an entitlement to a tangible media copy of the IP. Eg. a license for an ebook should have a voucher that can be redeemed to get a printed copy, a steam game license should entitle the holder to a USB stick or SD card containing the game.
>>726087396ment for>>726077445
>>726087439>rages impotently on 4chan about ownership of literal toys for children>isn't a cuck
>>726085830>Even if in 2 more weeks it did happen, I lose games. It's not like it's something that matters.I agree, anon. The corporation was happier about taking your games than you were about losing them. The total happiness in the world went up.
>>726086906Explain what is schizo about this? I'll wait.
>>726087445>>726087445>Eg. a license for an ebook should have a voucher that can be redeemed to get a printed copyOr an ebook on a drive would be fine, too.
Haha, sorry guys but those super yachts aren't cheap ya know?
>>726087297I do play video games. Pathetic attempt at deflection, shill.
What's stopping them from just selling the game instead of a license? Is that even possible to do digitally?
>>726087546You really are a bitch who gets slapped regularly by real men, aren't you?>>726087445If you feel the need to have a backup, do it yourself. Steam and GOG both allow this. Consolepoors are left in the lurch, though.
>>726064676the time to get outraged about this was ~20 years ago
>>726087384Tell your employers you need more trainingThe shilling is too obvious
>>726064676i sincerely doubt that if valve were ever to go out of business that they would just say ggeznore and shut down without some kind of contingency plan to download the games that you bought
>>726087687They didn't do it physically. Here's the logic of OPschizo.>downloaded games are just a license>but you actually owned the game on discWhen I showed OPschizo the proof that license agreements were the same back in the 90s on disc with scans from the Sam & Max Hit the Road manual (which states that you must destroy it if you violate the agreement), he alternately ignores it or changes his tune to>licenses don't mean anythingSo, if licenses are ironclad and I don't own my games on Steam, that means I didn't own them on disc.If licenses don't matter, they don't matter on Steam, and I can just Goldberg any game I want.
>>726087396>so you can (legally) download the offline installer that can't be taken away?No. If GOG shuts down. Or god forbid they ban you.. All of your games are gone. Same thing with Steam.
>>726087708>If you feel the need to have a backup, do it yourself. Steam and GOG both allow this. Consolepoors are left in the lurch, though.Good point. Digital storage media are hard to maintain, though (although that is true even if it is purchased media like a PS5 disc or 3DS cartridge). I'll look into the best practice. Thanks for teh tip.
>>726087708>announces he voluntarily cucks himself to corporations>seethes and lashes out when this is noticedtop kek
Here's a merciless mega protip.Use a Steam emulator with your own clean files. There's yours owned copy.
>>726087907>acts like a bitch>gets told he's a bitch>goes "NO U"Kekaroni and cheese with bits of jalapeño for you since you're hispanic.
>>726087843>with scans from the Sam & Max Hit the Road manual (which states that you must destroy it if you violate the agreement)Nobody actually took that shit seriously and it was completely unenforceable. The problem now is that they actually can just destroy your game and keep your money.
2 more weeks and Valve's going to take all this away from me. :(
>>726087667proton is enough for me to consider gabe worthy of having a yacht for each day of the week. Literally any other company in steams position would be worse by several orders of magnitude to the point that its not even funny.
>>726088052>how dare you NO U my NO U! THAT'S NOT FAIR!Lol you're really trying hard to save face, but such a thing is not possible for you. Give up. It should be easy since you already gave up your dignity to corporations.
>>726087546Holy kek, this autist got some nice moves.
>>726087396What country are you from?
>>726088260Imagine thinking you're fighting the power. You might as well run linux at that point.
>>726088183They won't, but the problem is that they can, faggotAnd they can because subhumans like you run interference and gobble on corpo cock whenever someone dares to identify it as a problem
>>726088253huge W for the autistic community
>>726088183Unironically, Steam is the best gaming preservation because I don't even seeing that shutting down in my lifetime. Even if a game is removed and you already bought it, it's still on your account. GOG? It's losing money every year and barely anyone is buying from that store and it very well may shut down in the near future. Secondly, you do not own shit (just like Steam). If GOG shuts down you legally cannot own even the installer because it's VOID. At this point real preservation is just pirating shit or sticking to a store like Steam that will probably will never die. What's even the point of buying games off GOG if you don't even own it? It's really stupid. So in this situation, owning your games on Steam is ultimately the lesser of 2 evils even if you only own a "license".I will wait for the mad replies.
>>726088375>someone dares to identify it as a problemand what solution are you providing? If you're just bitching for the sake of bitching, its a worthless exercise. You are a self righteous cunt. If you ever wondered why you don't have any friends, this is the reason.
>>726088375You're bitching while offering no solutions.>DON'T USE STEAM>"well, what should I use?">FUCK YOU CORPO COCKSUCKER DON'T USE STEAM>"but what alternatives are th--">FUCKING CORPO SHILL FUCK CORPO FUCK SHIT FUCK SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>726088337I can't do shit about "the power" but at least I can maintain enough pride and dignity to get pissed off about it.It makes me much more of a man than some cucked faggot making posts about how it's not a big deal and everyone bothered by it is stupid for caring.You are absolutely pathetic.
>>726088675You're one lunatic who ritualposts. You're no better than "vidya 20seven.30 butts" poster. You're actually worse, because AK-12 is at least pleasing to the eye.
>>726064676ok>>726064959nobody cares what you personally do
>>726064676you're like a kid that found out santa isn't real and can't let go
>>726087861>your back ups magically disappearmeds
>>726088787FUCK YOU PEOPLE WHO LEAVE MILK AND COOKIES OUT YOU FUCKING CHRISTMAS COCKSUCKER FUCKS
>>726064676>Mod support>Massive amounts of community support (guides to mod/restore/revitalize old games)>Set the standard for games getting automatic updates online>Free online>Free Linux supportCry more consolecuck. hows the monthly payments for online access feeling? Are the walls closing in yet?
>>726088532>>726088582Only retards and cucks think you need to have a solution before you complain about something.Identifying a problem is the first, most basic step. It's embraced by people with functional brains and despised by cucks who just want to tell themselves everything's fine and go back to sleepYou don't have the fortitude to even acknowledge that something is wrong. You try to glide through life with no anxiety whatsoever and you lash out at people who dare to disturb your pacified comfort by identifying problems.Pathetic.
>>726088887>don't breathe this air. it has smog>"so what do i do instead?">FUCK YOU AIR BREATHING FAGGOT COCKSUCKER SHILLING FOR AIR FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>726088383goddamn right. maybe one day epic can do something as simple as an informative review system within the decade.
>>726088754>you're a lunatic if you have a sense of dignityYou really are that far gone, huh?I don't even think you're a paid shill anymore. I think you're so completely cucked by corporations that you're doing their work for them for free.Shame you suck at it. Your attempts at demoralization are laughable.
>>726064676The same thing applies to your Nintendo games OP. I still won't buy a Switch.
>>726064676>ITT: Saars who didnt get to see bobs and vagene so they're taking it out on a korean basket weaving forum.
>>726088787>I will own nothing, and be happy.
>>726089017I cracked all my Steam games what now faggot?
>>726088851>mod support for games you don't own>massive amounts of community support for games you don't own>set the standard for games you don't own getting automatic updates online (uniltaral updates also cement your lack of ownership, by the way)>free online for games you don't own>free Linux support for games you don't own>everyone who doesn't like not owning games is a consolecuck
>>726064676The same disclaimer is on physical discs but it apparently doesn't matter because it's a shiny piece of plastic and they own the shiny piece of plastic.
>>726089017>I have dignity>that's why I ritualpost on a Bolivian macrame forum
>>726089172I live in Europe, I own my Steam gameshttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
>>726088851One day we might all be so blessed
>>726088967>"the air has smog and I think that's bad">"HOW DARE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT, CAN YOU FIX IT? HUH? HUH? AAAHHHH STOP MAKING ME FEEL BAD"
>>726089213>Day one updates>Firmware updatesIf you buy modern console games you own your games even less than if you buy a Steam digital license.
>>726089101The beauty of this is that it's true. I'm happy. You're angry. You're SO FUCKING MAD at Valve because they VAC banned you in 2023 that you can't get past it. You lost access to your CSGO portfolio and now you eat borscht with rocks in it. But you own things, I guess.
>>726089346NOOOOOOO MY FUCKING SKINS
>>726089148>I cracked all my Steam games what now faggot?So losing your games was enough of a problem for you to take steps to prevent it, but you're still here making posts about how losing your games isn't an issue and you don't care and nobody else should?A hypocrite as well as a cuck, then.
>>726089416>/v/ is one person
>>726065343I don't know but I know what steam shills look like
>>726089261>I live in Europe, I own my Steam gamesOf course you own them, sweetie.
>>726089346>The beauty of this is that you correctly identified that I am a cuckGlad we could reach an agreement.
you'll still suck his cock and thank him for not letting pc gamers own physical games anymore
>>726089628Hold on. Installing Space Marine 2. 2 hours remaining from disc.
>>726077445What if they already got him and release pirated games themselves to have people in a file where they can arrest them at any point they want?
>>726089453>doesn't NTA>responds to a post specifically addressed at someone else and is surprised when he's mistaken for that anonThe utter retardation
>>726089703>responds to the wrong person AGAIN>because /v/ is one person
>>726064676Still won't switch to EGS, pajeet.
>>726089798He admitted he had no solution. It's just that you need to stop playing games because all stores are for cucks.
>>726065343The one who keeps using "steamie" was exposed to be a redditor who posts to "indianmuslims".
>>726088824You're missing the point. In a hypothetical situation, if GOG were to shut down or if you were banned. You do not own those installers anymore. Those backups might as well be pirated copies at this point. Because why bother buying them if you don't even own any of the games at GOG? You're buying a license.
>>726089628i am indeed happy that i dont have to go to page 9 and type in word 23 to get the game to load anymore
>>726064676if you can't own it, it's not stealing.
>>726089992I'm not supporting GOG, but I don't think that's true. Even Valve said they'd unlock games if they ever killed Steam. That implies your license agreement transfers to the original publisher.
>>726089416>>726089478>>726089464>>726089628>>726089541>>726089703Microsoft killed PC physical with GFWL and Vista.Blame those fucking cunts
Is the game license in the room with us right now
>>726064676Reminder that if you die they delete your account, meaning your son or nephew will be screwed out of your (legally obtained) epic gamer stash the minute they don't know your password and contact Steam support in ignorance.
>>726090135GFWL stuff was still physical early on, and you didn't even need to login to play singleplayer stuff (Fallout 3 people were playing without logging in at first, then logged in and found that GFWL made it look in an entirely different place for save data, requiring some file moves).
>>726090072>I'm not supporting GOG, but I don't think that's true.Not owning GOG games? Oh boy, look at their ToS man. I read it myself.
>>726089752You have only yourself to blame.
>>726089934>The one who keeps using "steamie" was exposed to be a redditor who posts to "indianmuslims".Is there actual proof of this or is it just "it's impossible that two people use the same word, so it MUST be him!"?
>>726085182explain how that post is wrong
>>726090727I just needed to show that you exist
>>726090291GFWL was all physical but you still needed an online connection, yes even for offline logins and saves you needed to connect at least once.And no it didn't work 70% of the time
>The gabetr00n squeal and faint in agony while reading the truthKeK based OP for once.
>>726091291>>The gabetr00n squeal and faint in agony while reading the truth
>>726087256Yes, the only reason to spend money on any form of intellectual property is a moral desire to support its continued development.There is no practical reason to spend money on videogames, unless it's access to multiplayer and the like, which is directly paying for DRM access regardless, for which steam is a better solution than anything else.
>>726064676Spread the word brother
>>726064676they only had to do this due to EU basedboy cuckoldry. us Americans know how much Valve loves us and appreciate us, their fanbase and we know they have the best intentions in mind for us. youre a fake af fan if youre not ride of die for Our Guys
>>726068721There are several groups that have a vested interest in attacking valve>investment and acquisition companies don't like valve being a privately owned company because they want to be able to buy stock and gain control>tim sweeney (and therefore epic) is mad that he missed out on a big stake in the pc market in the mid 2000s>people who were using the CSGO skins to hide money from the taxman are pissed they lost their fake money>that one artefact guy
>>726093957Valve isn't your friend anon
>>726064846fpbp
Nor really, with some fruits you are not allowed to plant seeds (Monsanto). Welcome to this gay World.
>>726064846gayben cocksuckerwe warned you years ago and you never listened.now you pay the priceYOU WILL OWN NOTHING
>>726064676What do you suggest as the alternative?
>>726064676Oh look, it's this retard again.Fuck off, retard.
>>726073023And it's still just a license. Every game you buy is. If you're worried valve will take your games away just use goldberg.
>>726099734Buying the IPs and copyrights.
>>726091339>The PC cuck owns nothingWhen Gabe the fatso will die (soon) we will laugh at your mass suicide.
>>726073023>offline installers can't be taken away thoNeither can cracked Steam games.
>>726065343Indian
>>726064676I totally understand people hating this repeated post. But I'll take the opportunity to post about GOG. :)
>>726072886good trole
>>726065070>>726064676reminder no one ever used to accuse anyone of being a ''steam cultist'' as if its a console war position until EGS started shilling here when it launchedOP is a faggot shill
>>726088413(nobody replies sans me)
>>726103071Why would I ever buy from GOG when pirates get the same experience for free?If I'm going to spend money, I'm going to buy it on the best platform which is steam.The extra irony is that I don't even spend money on Steam because I have thousands in my steam inventory / wallet.
>>726064676You are aware it's VERY easy to pirate Steam games, right?
>>726064676Don't care still using Steam lmao
>>726064676you pay for the service, i don't know why retards have so much trouble understanding this
>>726106162>calls people retards, is the biggest low comprehension retard in the room
>>726106342i didn't read the op and i'm not planning to
>400 replies of steamie seethe
>>726089464I wish I looked like gaben too
>>726103562Same goes for steam. Why give them money? Just pirate
>>726064676>implying only steam is complicit in this
>>726064676I'm trans btw
>>726107195So you're admitting to instigating flame war? I believe that is against the rules, and I'd like to remind everyone of this.
>>726064676Because everything is not last forever.Every single thing you have eventually rots and breaks
>>726065443The purpose of licenses is to prevent unlawful distribution. You might own a book, but you don't own the words in that back. You do not have the legal right to copy that book and redistribute those copies. The problem with digital goods is that they grant the publisher far more power than physical goods do. A publisher cannot just break into your house and forcibly take the book back from you, even if you violate the license. But with digital goods, there are ways to do just that.
>>726066137This is why I only buy PS5 game-ACK
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it even steam's role to decide if what you buy is the game directly or only a licence? Isn't that in the hands of the game publishers? Like if Valve rolled an update where they went>you are rights licences are wrong, we are now explicitly selling game copiesCouldn't ubishit or some other studio tell them that they only agreed to sell licenses and sue them?
>>726064676At this point I'm convinced Steam and Valve are money laundering, and Israel and jews are probably involved.
>>726064676it's like a lifetime ticket to an amusement park.copyright laws, piracy and digital distribution make straight ownership pretty much impossible, and the only viable alternative would be paying for games by the hour, which no thanks.
>>726109260Why would they need to do that when Steam prints so much money Gaben could finance a yacht bridge from the US to France
>>726108764On EGS, I OWN my games. Thanks Tim!
