200 years later and they not only can’t build simple metal shacks but start wearing bone jewelry and spear-chucking at mutants? Are the humans in this universe retarded? Why did Chris Avellone and black isle worship backwardness and destroying Civilization? They even wanted to nuke San Francisco in New Vegas, do they want the Wasteland to be in the Stone Age?
If San Francisco was nuked instead of Shady Sands, I’d actually watch the show. The Shi is the most retarded faction in Fallout
>>726079520no you would still be reeeeeee'ing that they obliterated Fallout lore despite the fact Shady Sands was planned to be nuked in van buren since before bethesda bought the series
>>726079801Van Buren had a lot of retarded ideas.
It takes place in California. They're not White.White people are the enclave and brotherhood and vault dwellers. Indio monsters revert to their nature without us to guide them.
>>726078865The tribal stuff is my favorite underrated things out of Fallout. Too bad Bethesda ditched it all.
>>726078865i'm not sure about the right but weren't the guys on the left isolated in Zion for basically 200 years, with no or little contact with the outside world?
>>726078865Because the post war USA is far less advanced and more primitive than you retards like to claim.They only areas that even somewhat hold onto old world values are large population centers like the Coasts who had a bunch of vaults and had Vault Dwellers to develop the land. And even then, the only locations that become anything of note, like California and DC, only become prosperous after a demi-god MC comes by and takes care of their society ending threats.And what becomes of those places? They still congregate in population centers that where kick started by a G.E.C.K(Shady Sands & Vault City) and still use beasts of burden for trading and only have craftsmen and no real industrialization due to scarcity still being the biggest problem they have.It's completely believable and in-line with established lore that the further inland you go in the USA the less vaults would be present and the more tribalistic people would have reverted. They weren't just bombed, the entire world was mostly uninhabitable for decades after the war. The idea that society would simply "bounce back" is a far bigger stretch then the events that occurred.
>>726078865Because knowledge is something that can be lost extremely fast, it creates an interesting dichotomy between the people that live in settlements and those that live tribal life, and Mad Max did it.
>>726081302The Dead Horses are from an Indian reservation east of the grand canyon.
>>726078865Human beings are superstitious evil savages kept in line by a tiny group of ancient moralistic high IQ forward-thinkers who are long dead.
>>726081468>IndianOh, well there we go.
>>726081341I remember in Fallout 1 a character with high enough INT or science can explain crop rotation to a farmer in Shady Sands, so even with the G.E.C.K. They were still pretty clueless about certain shit. I think the issue also comes from tech heavy factions like the BoS getting put into the forefront constantly which gives then impression everyone else is on a similar level and with Bethesda making power armor something any retard can get and use it just creates a scenario where tech is just lying around and people would immediately know how to use it.
>>726078865Maybe they just like living that way, you goober. Not everybody wants what you want.
>>726078865>Shit game >Shit franchise It was always shit
>>726081468ah. wasn't there a tribe that were the descendants of a bunch of people stranded in Zion before the war and just never left, though?it's been a while since i've played Honest Hearts.
>>726082319The Sorrows are descended from children who wandered into the park post-war.
>>726081468>Indian reservation SAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM FALLOUT 76 PRE-ORDER SAAAAAR
>>726080654>Too bad Bethesda ditched it all.They were in Fallout 3 point lookout and cultists are their new standin for tribals in 4 and 76
>>726081341>It's completely believable and in-line with established lore that the further inland you go in the USA the less vaults would be present and the more tribalistic people would have reverted. They weren't just bombed, the entire world was mostly uninhabitable for decades after the war.Reno, Nevada suffered so little damage that the local mafias survived and took control almost immediately, and that's not exactly bumfuck nowhere by US city standards, so smaller town likely only saw mushroom clouds in the distance.Combine that with the Chinese hateboner for the West Coast (one of the Shi logs has the Chinese captain expressing confusion over why their biggest bomb was heading to LA instead of DC) and it's likely most of Tennessee and Kentucky only noticed something was off when all TV channels stopped transmitting.American culture wouldn't die, it would adapt to a reality where the Federal and State governments, along with the major cities, were gone. Most of the country would realistically be Christian communes, not backward tribes.
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>>726084590>Most of the country would realistically be backward tribes, not backward tribes?
>>726084590>Reno, Nevada suffered so little damage that the local mafiasUnfortunately, that's because fallout is a kitchen sink joke of a setting and needs to have funny mafiosos acting like there is still a gold mint running.If the writers of fallout 2 hadn't been so laser focused on toddleficating they'd avoided it.
>>726078865>They even wanted to nuke San Francisco in New Vegas, do they want the Wasteland to be in the Stone Age?war never changes after all.do have to give credit to nv for feeling like a powder keg in the biggest war fought since the great war.i look to f4 and it feels like a four way insurrection
>>726078865>do they want the Wasteland to be in the Stone Age?Isn't this an Albert Einstein quote, or somesuch.
>>726078865>200 years later and they not only can’t build simple metal shacks but start wearing bone jewelry and spear-chucking at mutants?That depends who has the knowledge, the "good" materials, The protection, and the intelligence and strength to actually make this shit happen. Shit gets even worst if you don't have a Geiger counter and you end up picking up radioactive materials that could kill your people off.
>>726088034The guy was a fraud. Who cares what he said?
>>726080654>Too bad Bethesda ditched it all.The fuck are you talking about. There's a raider gang in every second location. Raiders are a way better representation of what post apocalyptic tribals would be. Obsidian believes that tribals are ultra Mormons that reject technology when in reality primitive tribes usually become obsessed with advanced stuff and machined goods.Tribals would use whatever is available and in a destroyed world that would be the leftovers of society. Raiders are a perfect representation of that design as their stuff is cobbled together from whatever they can find.
>>726078865Because Sawyer has a massive hard on for the noble savage trope.
>>726088034He said>I do not know what qeapons WW3 will be fought with, but the next war after will be fought with sticks and stones.It is a pretty stupid thing to say as it thinks human will just magically forget how to make things or there won't be weapons left over to fight with
>>726084385Kek
ummmm errrr Bethesda bad
>>726078865>Are the humans in this universe retarded?seems pretty acurate to actual history>WTF WHY DID PEOPLE LIVE IN SHACKS DURING THE 5TH CENTURY THE FALL OF ROME WASNT EVEN 100 YEARS AGO
>>726078865Think about it objectively. Nuclear war happens. Society ceases to exist for several decades. A new generation arises knowing nothing about the old world. To them, buildings are metal caves. They don't know how to read and can only speak English because they hear recordings of people talking that way. (This is the only official reason people still use English 300 years later.)The vaults open and a handful of civilized peoplr survive. They spread what knowledge they can, but it's all lost in a generation because there are no schools. The primitive tribes vastly outnumber anyone with any knowlege.In the west, a society rises that does teach their children. They set about bringing back the America they hear in their recordings... At gunpoint. They are resource starved to a greater extent than society was before the war -- no energy, no raw materials. They collapse within a hundred years as they try to take over the west. Society returns to barbarism.In real life, following the bronze age collapse, it took hundreds of years to rediscover even the most basic tech.
>>726084451Yeah but they're just haha goofy cult with stupid beliefs. I mean tribals are like that but they're a sense of seriousness with them instead of haha so funny they worship goofy stupid object and say funny things. Tribals are taken just a bit more seriously in FNV and a little less so in F2 but are still interesting enough
>>726095423Raiders are not the same thing. If I have to explain this to you then you probably have room temperature IQ
>>726099924Kek
>>726078865Chris Avellone is a talentless midwit hack and not a single project that he has ever been involved with is even remotely redeemable. He is a cancer
>>726100168Those fucking germanic tribes didn't even bother repairing the architecture fuck attila that warlord made the germans go west.
The Legion suck. You don't want to admit that because you're desperately trying to cling onto your personal beliefs, but you know it's true. The Legion is a dogshit faction and there's no reason to ever join them, and you know that. You also know that none of the Cut Content would ever make the Legion not utter dogshit.
it only takes one bad generation to regress to caveman. you wanna test it? toss your kid into the woods and see what happens.
>>726095660You are seriously underestimating the devastation of nuclear weapons
>>726103001You are overestimating them.
>>726100517There are schools.
>Why did Chris Avellone and black isle worship backwardness and destroying CivilizationAbsolute /pol/-brainrotThey just thought it made for exotic and interesting characters and people, stop being a fucking bitch
>>726095423>Obsidian believes that tribals are ultra Mormons that reject technology when in reality primitive tribes usually become obsessed with advanced stuff and machined goods.that's just the Sorrows. the White legs do scavenge for advanced weaponry.
>>726078865>why would a post-apocalyptic world have people who don't want to race to rebuild civilization and nuke everything again?gee it sure is a mysterystupid fucking retarded faggot
>>726103913It’s so strange how the message of the series is said within the first few minutes of every single game yet retards like OP and other faggots miss it.
>>726078865>Are the humans in this universe retarded?The humans in our real universe are retarded. Look at who the U.S. elected last year. Look at the shit most people are saying online about any given topic. Look at the worldwide circumcision rates. It's endless stupidity.
kek I love how every single fallout thread makes you summon indians. Its like a spell.
