>AI is eating up all the DRAM causing prices to skyrocket>NAND flash memory prices predicted to rise very soon>CPU and GPU will inevitably become more expensive due to shortage of resources All this talk about AI making games "better" when most people won't be able to afford a gaming PC is hilarious.
>>726081049If my current pc burns i'll just buy a gabe cube, it's more than enough to play all of the good games.
>>726081460>implying steam machine would be unaffected by all thisBro...
>>726081049End of ATX maybe but not PC. SoC boards with unified memory is the future.
>>726082121SoCs will not amortize the cost. Anything aimed at the consumer segment will still be expensive since the focus would still be on meeting demands for the AI sectoe where the margins are much better.
AI will also figure out how to make more ramcalm down
Once they harvest everyone's data and move on to the police state tech, the market will normalize. Also the government will know about your loli habit, but at least youll be able to afford it.
>>726081529Anon, AI is about to pop at any second, it is going to be a non issue in not even a year.
You think consoles won't be hit by RAM and flash memory prices? Even cloud shit will get more expensive as prices of ECC RAM skyrocket. You can expect subscription prices to go up to cover the increasing costs of server racks.
>>726081049PC gaming doesn't need anything in terms of hardware though. PC is for enthusiasts not playing console games with higher graphics Honestly if you own a PC to play video games on it, bye Felicia. You were never part of the community
the factories are just collaborating to drive the price of ram up like they always do.>oh no! ram got too cheap! lets halt production for the next 6 months and monitor the in-store prices.>yes now ram is expensive again, very good.
>>726082910Not it isnt. Industries are laying off people by tue 10 thousands. We have already seen explosive progress in thr past year. People keep saying this as a cope. And not the dot Com bubble isnt the something as the AI bubble. And no, I dont really like it, ive just accepted that we are going there. Its better to get ready for it, OR you can do the reddit thing which is bitch and moan about it
>>726081049Just wait for the bubble to pop like anon told me two weeks ago
>Half Life 3 about to be announced>PC gayman is dyingConsolefags shitting their pants
>>726081049I already have a nice PC though
>>726081049The tech shortage because of AI is also the reason why the Gabecube's and Frame's specs are underwhelming, btw. Valve can't source better parts without making the machines too expensive.
has old ass ddr4 2666 ram gone up too? I got two kits just sitting in my closet
>>726082910Two more weeks
>>726083134Anon, the one bitchin and moaning about the end times is (you), the text generator that hallucinates after 2 prompts isn't going to bring the roboapocalypse. >But muh layoffsYeah, we all know how companies only do completely sane maneuvers like replacing their entire workforce with jeets
>>726082701AI will solve nuclear fusion and quantum computing any day now....
>>726083260>the world is burning>my house isn't burning thobased retard.
>>726081049it will crash soon, too many AI companies that basically fights over too little customers. the bubble will pop like crypto. there will be few left standing after all this is over.
>>726083314>>726083134>>726083190insiders like Thiel have sold all their nvidia stock. the guy The BigShort was based on is shorting openai and nvidia right now
>>726083442I do infact own a house, I was thinking of getting a second one in fact. I also have a wife and children.
>>726083291Yes. You can sell it for a profit now but wait till prices become more insane
>>726081049That's fucked. The last ten years was gamers getting fucked in the ass by tech scams. First crypto, now AI bullshit. I guess PC building is never going to be affordable again. Most people will have to settle for Steambox.
>>726083509No one asked, unc..
>>726083442>BurningPrices today are still cheaper than prices 20 years ago, PC gayman surpasses all 3 console systems combined and people more than ever are playing older games and asking for worse more optimized visuals.Only thing that's burning is your analyst retard stats
>>726083260good thing pc parts last forever, right retardo
>>726082647>SoCs will not amortize the cost.This already happened during covid GPU shortage. Laptops were offering better performance/price ratio than desktop builds. I bought rtx 3070 laptop which turned out to be cheaper than trying to build rtx 3060 system.
>>726081049Xbox is gonna release affordable gaming PCs for next gen, they'll be the ones to save gaming.
>>726083634How can one be so confidently wrong about everything?
the moment i bought a 5070ti in february video games turned to shit. it's a waste of money
>It's not a bubble>"What does the AI make?">uhh it scrapes stack overflow for code and still needs a whole team to proof read it because it still gets it wrong."AI" does nothing, it's just short for "Another Indian" and jews removing money from retards.2 more decades until fusion2 more decades until full VR2 more decades until labor bots2 more decades until global warming
>>726083789imagine being this confidently wrong about everything
>>726083724>rtx 3070 laptop > rtx 3060 systemOh nonono. He doesn't know.
maybe this will create market forces to incentivize developers to actually optimize their game again.
>>726083727Fuckoff Phil>>726083749>ur wrongWell, you're gay!
>>726083842I know laptop 3070 is close to desktop 3060.
>>726081049Good. Poorfags should get a second job instead of shitting up my expensive hobby
>>726083860why would they? They'll just pivot into making live service games. Look at the stats and you'll see that live service games are supported by whales who own premium PCs anyway.
>>726083840I'll be here waiting for AI to replace us all, hey, did you know that it says gullible on the stock market?
>>726083950You're not missing out on anything broski>t.RTX 4070 ownerIt's all garbage outside niche titles you can run on a medium/low spec.
>tfw I bought 64 gb ddr5 ram 2 years ago
>>726083481>guys literal thieves are doing this!They want you to short but meanwhile they'll go long and take all of your money. They're crooks.
>>726081049DDR4 Plays every game ever made
>>726084195>DDR4 is not obsole-ACKKKKKK
>>726084063good... Mr.Shekelstein would be proud to see you fuel the hobby which keeps you shackled to material things while filling his pockets.
>>726084326>0 performance impact in gaming
I was going to buy a new computer this black friday and could have saved about $500 off the cost.But then I thought twice and realized there's really no games I care about that my mid-range 2016 computer doesn't run just fine.
>>726083467Two more weeks anons
>>726084326On par with>THE POWAH OF THE PS5 SSD
>>726083031>if you own a PC to play video games on it, bye Felicia. You were never part of the communityDon't you know? PC gaming is bigger than console gaming combined. >>726083634 told me that and I believe him.
>>726083134Based reality-observer
>>726084574Don't worry. you'll never need to buy another PC ever again.
Literally the only reason to upgrade your computer right now is if you're into local AI models for generating art, generally porn.
>>726083335See, youre just thinking about the free shit thaglt the public can use. The one we are testing in the civil engineering side is a lot different than a chat buddy. Shit even the crap I use for skyrim is better than thag junk>>726083467Yeah some of the smaller shit that cant monetize will pop, but AI isn't going anywhere. Its just going to get worse>>726083481Good for them
>>726083134Industries are outsourcing white collar work to jeets with AI, their code bases will progressively rot.
>>726084731cope
>>726084908>Trust me, i can't show you and it doesn't do anything but it's going to change the worldOh fuck this is /x/ and i didn't even notice it
>>726084928>mfw even a single // comment is enough to poison every single existing code model into inserting RCE vulnerabilities into the code as proven by security researchers
>>726081049/v/ tell me honestly if you were given the choice of having affordable AI waifu robots or affordable gaming PCs, which one would you have? So assume that letting go of gaming as a necessary sacrifice for the better future.
>>726085142Do you think 100% of the ai tools that are avaliable to you, for free, are all that exist? If so, youre a retard
>>726081049"""AI""" (LLM algorithms) are in their dot com bubble phase right now. Like every bubble it has doomers now predicting endless line goes up, then it's going to burst and same doomers will fire sale everything. Then prices connected to everything, like hardware, will normalize as a more realistic understanding of what it can or can't do develops
it's fucking OVERI hate AI so fucking mUCHsloppers have:>ruined 4chan>ruined porn>ruined games>ruined PC parts>ruined books
>>726084113Nigtardo a few weeks ago I made a functioning simple program in an afternoon with Grok that replaces my home thermostat with wireless sensors I assembled in every room in my house and automatically controls my furnace and ductwork fans I installed, it works precisely according to my specification. It's hardly the peak of software engineering but it would've taken me years to get even that far, but like I said, I did it in an afternoon with almost zero coding knowledge. And I did it with Grok, which I've learned since then is supposed to be a total crock of shit when it comes to coding. The only coding I've ever done was modding games in the 90s and even basic Lua is too advanced for me. This AI shit is amazing. Cope all you want, but maybe think about learning to use it because it's going to be a baseline requirement for whatever computer jobs are left in a few years.
>>726085242Affordable PCs, I can't breed a fucking robot!
>>726085293Do you think that if there's some super duper expensive AI model out there doing near-magic and not a single company is using to get profits?Every company and their mothers are trying to shove AI into anything they can to get profits, and surprise surprise the only ones making profit are the ones selling hardwareThe only thing AI made so far is generate infinite amounts of seethe from artists.
>>726085317I got that Corsair set with RGB for $110 around June. Needless to say, I'm extremely lucky that I finally managed to build my PC before this whole disaster happened. I also wanted to buy a second SSD but I think I'll stick to what I have for the next couple of years, if I need backup storage, I already have an external 2TB HHD anyway.
>>726085356You can't breed PCs either or can you??!!
>>726085317the fuck
>>726081049Consoles run without using ram? That is impressive!
>>726082910it'll pop but unlike most speculative investing there's a clear benefit to be had, which sets it majorly apart from the likes of NFTs or VR or even cryptominingit's here to stay, it's just whether the market will normalize, or if the manufacturers will enjoy the bloated prices and will do as much as they can to resist them going back down
>>726085317dudesomeone has to pay for all thatif the "subs" dont somehow pay back the AI firms investment into gigantic amount of ddr5 ram then they go bankrupt and the demand drops and prices return to normalthe money supply for ai shit cant go on for much longer, the consumer demand simply doesnt exist for all of it
>>726085709The problem is that the>prices return to normalStep ALWAYS take exponentially longer than it takes for the prices to go up.It took 2 months for the prices to go up 100%.It'll take 2 years for the prices to go down 50%, back to where they were.
>>726085328>uses llm sloppot code instead of home assistant like a normal personWhy? I get that it can shit something like that out but the most complex program it can create is still totally in the scope of a beginner. It can do very narrow programs pretty well(they still often do total nonsense) but if you have a large system or complex/novel requirements it just falls on its ass.
>>726081049>Check price of my ram, G Skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo Silver>300 bucks on microcenter for 32gbWTF
>>726085482>The only thing AI made so far is generate infinite amounts of seethe from artists.Also turned into a security and privacy nightmare as its being used on traffic cameras for tracking, and making the most hilariously insecure web frontend vibecoded "apps" imaginable.
>>726085709>>726085894Prices will not be going to normal lol. Not when 40% of global DRAM supply will now sourced be directly to openAI.
>>726083481>the guy The BigShort was based on is shorting openaiI don't know dick about stocksHow do you short a private company?
WHY THE FUC IS MEMORY SO HIGH I THOUGHT AI WAS MEANT T OSOLVE PROBLEMS NOT INVENT THEM
>>726085696The clear benefit is oversold by so much that it might as well be on the realm of NFT's, AI investors are promising that literally everything will be solved by AI.It's the dot com all over again, history was supposed to just rhyme not to be reenacted 1:1
>>726086116open AI is a ponzi scheme, prices will normalise once the scam runs its course.
>>726086195Phone prices will start climbing too, basically all modern silicon will compete with this monstrosity.
>>726086071You honestly dont need to worry about hackers in the future since very few people will be doing things on their own without being over reliant on AI. Nearly all college graduates just vibe code these days and can't write codes for shit.
>>726081049when you allow companies like nvidia to exist they eventually spread their cancer and ruin everything
>>726081049Consoles will also be hit, they're just PCs with some ARM SoC glued to the butt.
>>726086318Cars as well
>>726086052Kek I bought it for $110 6 months ago
>>726082910The "also ran" companies will pop but the leaders will replace a ton of jobs humans are doing with AI. It's already happening.
>>726085482No dipshit thats not what I said. What I said was, all the free crap you can use right now isnt even close to the shit thats locked away only being used by the individual companies Do you think companies are using chatGPT code? Most code is now written by AI btw
>>726086240How is it a ponzi scheme?
>>726086603Because I say so.
>>726086368Hopefully so. Tablets with wheels are fucking horrid.Electric cars had the opportunity to be insanely repairable, given how few components you need to make one, but instead we choose the horrible phone with wheels path.
>check RAM on amazon>sold out everywhere>check my KLEVV sticks>160€ I paid like 130 for these
>>726086603Investments flow in a circle in the AI industry, if you invest in nvidia, it's the same as investing in Microsoft or ClosedAI.
>>726081049>tfw still on DDR4Not my problem
>>726081049You don't need more than 32 gigs of RAM, cuckboy. This is yet another excuse to doompost, pretend everything sucks, and not do anything fun while like passes you by and you grow into an old, lonely fuck.
>>726086760You should look up what a ponzi scheme is.
>>726086462Yeah, and i said that it's all bogus, because the only companies getting profit are the ones selling the shovels for the gold rush.If there was some hidden AI model right now we would know by the sheer reason of said company actually making money where everyone else is pounding sand.
>>726086603There's no income, everything is being burnt on inference, they are tricking venture capitalists into investing hundreds of billions with the promise they will be the most profitable company on earth. They then promise money they dont have to other companies who then either re-invest in open AI or build hype to trick more retarded boomers into investing. The scam increases in scale till there's no more venture capitalists and investors to scam and the company goes bankrupt.
>>726086827Will you also cope about VRAM ?
>>72608682732GB cost $300 now though
>>726086865I didn't claim it was a ponzi scheme, it's more like investor manipulation, AI makes stonks go up.>>726086658The reason is part regulation and part vendor lock in so you can have monopoly on every electrical part in the car
>>726086942>the thing we already don't getRetard>>726087036Buy 8gb sticks, cuckboy. Your motherboard has 4 slots.
>>726087098it is a ponzi scheme. It's currently collecting hundreds of billions from venture capitalists who are looking to scam everyone else once the company has an IPO. VC's will exit at the first stage and make their money at which point the ponzi scam will continue on with subsequent waves of retarded investors till the thing burns out.
>>726087138You can't just use all 4 slots at same time and expect the RAM to work properly just with default expo on though
>>726087381Many normalfags still think LLMs are real entities or whatever, it'll be a while. But they'll have to show profit at some point
>>726087485lmao this nigga retarded
>>726085317lel I paid 120 leaf bucks (~85 burger bucks) for that same TEAMGROUP kit last yearGlad I bought all my PC parts back then
>>726087527Ok put 4 8GB DDR5 and turn expo and stress test the IMC and benchmarks it
>>726083260>Windows 11>Home
>>726087527He's right. 4x8GB is retarded.
>>726081049That's nice and all, but have (you) ever considered not being poor?
>>726087502All the big money knows its a scam and will exit pretty early, I think openAI will collapse shortly after going public but its going to take another year or two for them to pull the trigger.
>>726087791>why dont you work more to afford less stuff every year?How about no
>>726083481What if it's not a bubble tho
>>726087791Post PC specs
>>726087853There's increasing pressure of all of those AI companies to show a real product, they can't wait that much longer.
>>726087881See >>726085307. All indicators and shaman triangles saw it is. The line gods can no longer tolerate the circle
>>726087881if it wasn't a bubble there would be money flowing in instead of a circular flow of money from openai->microsoft->nvidia->openai
>>726084878God pregloli is getting good
>>726087881They are throwing trillions at linear language models, like, wtf. Do you think a curve can be intelligent? It can only conform to the data patterns with tiny generalizations. They then mine new data patterns through RL and tune their models toward higher "correctness" with RLHF. If you input something truly novel the model will crash out.
>>726087969>>726088270Look at this schizo babble lol.
>>726088476It's the truth, that's actually what they are.
>>726081529Gabecube uses LPDDR. The next AMD GPUs will do the same.LPDDR is not subject to the same pricing and demand issues because AI farms don't use it, and it's overproduced to avoid shortages because of their necessity in laptops.Mini-PCs are the next step in Master Racing. And AMD AI all-in-one + GPU is the future for cost effective rigs.
>>726086819DDR4 is not being made anymore, you techlet retard.
>>726088837LPDDR is mobile phone level tech. At this rate, the gabecube will only run games at 30 fps 640p.
>>726088994and that is my problem how?
>>726089076In the future it'll be a choice between the gabecube or locked bootloader laptops/phones for digital ID purposes.
>>726081049The DRAM shortage isn't just going to impact PC gaming, expect Smartphone, Laptop and Console prices to start going up in the coming months. Prices for everything are only going to continue going up.
You don't need hardware when the game is streamed to you.
>>726089313You will not own anything and you will be happy
>>726089271>digital IDJust don't live in a shithole country. Simple as.
>>726089414This is what Musk was saying in the recent Rogan interview. All your devices are just endpoints to centralized AI. No apps. No games. If you ask, it will provide.
>>726089473You're a fucking retard if you think anyone will avoid it outside ultra low development shitholes. They simply have to mandate it for government workers and then expand it after normalization.
>>726089076RAM will not have that much of an impact on your performance. Fucking /v/tards, man.
>>726089624Proofs?
>>726089272prices of electricity goes up too, how many other things will AI ruin before people tell the tech ceos to fuck off?
>>726081049Don't care already got mine and a spare kit of RAM
>>726089538>No apps. No games. If you ask, it will provide.>Download the latest loli mods for Skyrim please, HAL>"I'm sorry, Dave. I am afraid I can't do that"
>>726083481>the guy The BigShort was based on is shorting openai and nvidia right nowI don't know how to tell you this, but old Burry boy closed his hedgefund to the public
>>726081049>FOMOing into a bubble>at the fucking peak>not waiting for the huge correction>missing out on the inevitable crash when normies realize every single "ai" is nothing but chatgpt with a different graphicBUY HIGHSELL LOW
>>726081049not into UE5 games anyway
>>726090238DRAMGODS won. No correction until at least Q2
>>726090238>>726090376>waiting for correctionBros.....This is the correction. The earlier prices were too low.
>>726089740Not wasting my time. Fuck off, retard.
>>726081049End of console and PC gaming, both will be replaced by gaming handhelds in the console and PC variations ruled by Nintendo and Valve. There is no future for high-end gaming.
>>726090542>Yeah guys, this totally isn't related to OpenAI buying 40% of the DRAM output capacityAre you fucking serious?
>AI is eating up all the DRAM causing prices to skyrocketthats what they want you to think
>>726090827Man, financial scams are crazy, once you've lied to enough people you can just say you'll buy up 90% of the global stock of a commodity with imaginary money and then break the stock market. You have free reign to manipulate every single stock.
>a 500 billion printed fake dollars magically goes to fake ai start ups for fake data centers>not a obvious ponzi that will implode within 1 yearI bet everything against you. You will buy my 3rd lambo.
>>726085307LLM's are going nowhere fast but image and video gen keep getting more sophisticated. The downside is that all the local shit requires a rig you can't afford.
>>726090983None of them are profitable.
china already solved this problem
>>726081049Don't forget!>AI uses a shit ton of water for cooling>electricity and water prices are skyrocketingIt was never to help those who simply want to live.
>>726091052Oh for fucks sake, how many goddamn propaganda articles can they produce? I don't give a fuck if you pretend to solve problems, it just makes me think you're retarded. If this was true njudea would crash and burn instantly
all of this silicon will be hopelessly outclassed by future hardware and theyll have to rebuy btw
>>726081049youre right but for the wrong reasonsend of gaming is because there are no good games in the 2020sthe last decent games were all made in the 2010s like portal 2, skyrim, arkham, rdr2 etc.
Don't worry based.gabe just made an Ouya 2 you can buy and play (older) PC games on your TV!
What does this mean for Zen 6 and UDNA?
>>726091023not reallyyou can gen shit just fine with any of intels shit gpus. it will just take a long ass time
>>726091336OpenAI now owns 10% of AMD. You can imagine how they would want the company to go.
>>726091395What will Valve do, use a semi-custom APU based on Medusa Point, or would they use a semi-custom Zen 6 CPU with an entry-level UDNA GPU for Deck 2?
>>726082910How many more weeks?
>>726091573Hopefully just enough to cause a major shockwave among tech companies, like dotcom did.
>>726083134Even Altman himself said it's a bubble.However it is an internet like bubble, not a NFT bubble (where there's no real value whatsoever)Most companies will fucking die, but some will survive and rule the post bubble world, like happened with the internet.The question is which ones, and this is why there's this crazy wave of investment in first place.You might have stocks for the next google or the next altavista.
God, AI threads are absolute drivel. How do you fuckers stomach this shit.
>>726092084The value is unknown since no AI company has made profit yet. Something exists, unlike NFTs but that thing could be basically worthless.
>>726083134Also even Nvidia is not safe bet.They got all the raw power of AI at the moment, but it's still pure raw power, and with the moore's law dead, sooner or later you will need smarter chips to cram more power.It would be even poetic if some small name company came up with smarter chips that trounce the nvidia raw power slop, as it's EXACTLY how they defeated 3Dfx.
>>726092276Yep! but there's not need to make a profit when you get boomers just injecting more and more and more money in.After the bubble burst is when the game actually begins because you will need to get money from the public, not from the old farts.
>>726092165I don't see you complaining in coombait, racebait threads which comprises 90% of the threads in /v/.
>>726092084Is Microsoft one of the companies that will die?
>>726092502Microsoft is massively diversified, so even if AI would falter, they'd keep selling Office licenses and Azure cloud.
>>726092768DAMMIT
>>726092407Why would I go into threads that don't interest me at all?
>>726092502I'm not a fortune teller.If i was i would be betting on an absolute dreck of company that ends up being on the top of the food chain.
>>726085242Tbf modern games suck so less PCs wouldn't be a catastrophic loss
>>726083582Consoles have ram too, so don't think those aren't gonna be affected.
>>726092941Palantir?
>>726092084https://www.computerworld.com/article/4059383/openai-admits-ai-hallucinations-are-mathematically-inevitable-not-just-engineering-flaws.htmlSort of neat that, according to them, AI will just make shit up not matter what. Also Altman angling for a government bailout only to immediately walk it back and say he's not actually asking for a bailout was fun too.
>>726093102If you want to play the bubble game, go ahead, make your bet, guess your winner, enjoy your winnings.Or lose everything.Or redraw the companies as horse girls and make it a gacha
>>726081049AI is going to collapse the video game industryNobody will be able to buy overpriced $200 goyware licenses when computers cost $5000 and meat costs $50Even live service goyslop will collapse
>>726093249>Or redraw the companies as horse girls and make it a gacha
>>726082910The pop is inevitable but the timelines are vague. The manufacturers aren't scaling production and instead shifting the current capacity is the big indicator that they also believe this. And if they would increase their capacities, they would be hit really hard once the bubble bursts.
>>726093240Yes, the "GOD LLM" is probably not going to pan out, the whole failure mode of it is retarded.But with all the power we have, you can make smaller, more targeted models that have better failure modes that can be filtered and all that.For example this kind of bullshit:https://hackaday.com/2025/09/29/macintosh-system-7-ported-to-x86-with-llm-help/
I remember being told A.I. was going to crash tomorrow over a year agoI don't think any of you fags know anything, you just repeat what some Youtuber told youThe corps aren't giving up on cheap A.I. slop and replacing employees
>>726082910This anon is right but no one wants to admit it. LLM's are not infinitely scalable. Even if they were - hardware, electricity and training data are not infinite. We are already smashing against the limits of our hardware manufacturers speed, power generation and the data is being containmented by other a.i.Will we see improvement? Of course but the rapid fire huge improvements are already over. The low hanging fruit has been picked, all the gains now will be hard fought and slow. We will not see AGI in 2027 or even 2057. It will become this generations fusion power, its always just a few years away!
>>726091523What will Valve do here?
>>726093619>The corps aren't giving up on cheap A.I. slop and replacing employeesIts entirely possible for AI in investing to crash while the companies still keep on using it for slop. Look at this as if someone made a really good factory automation tool and investors got convinced it would make all factories not need humans in five years. The factories would still use it, but the investor left holding the bag would get assfucked when the market realized it wouldn't replace all of the employees.
>>726092502fucking NO. never. we have entire gov'ts and companies and multinational organizations that are dependent upon microsoft. they are the definition of "too big to fail."other companies that will never die, regardless of bubble pop: open ai (they're the spearhead), nvidia, amd, intel, tsmc, amazon, alphabet (google), oracle.
>>726089076>the gabecube will only run games at 30 fps 640p.Unironically a huge upgrade from my current shitty recycled office HP running a Celeron. Shoulda built my new PC last year but was hoping for DDR4 RAM prices to drop once DDR5 became more common, now I can't find either for a good price, lole.
>>726094775Jesus christ every time I start to think I was being a lazy fucking poorfag neet by still running windows 7, someone else shows up with hilariously worse hardware to instantly make me feel better about myself.
AI is the world's biggest scam and will pop like 80s bubble in japan. A total waste of money time and resources. If you still want to upgrade just do it now
>>726095082You haven't seen the porn have you
>>726095082What's the used GPU market gonna look like when said bubble finally pops and they start liquidating their racks of cards. I hope they're priced reasonably.
>>726095165It's garbage
>>726092276It took Uber 10 years to make profit, it only started making profit like a year after Covid started. Now everyone pays strangers on the internet to jump in their car.
>>726095372Uber provides a tangible service with an established market already in existence. AI is building data models in the hope of them somehow becoming capable of autonomous deployment.
>>726095338I would post some but we *are* on a blue board
>>726082910>says increasingly nervous transexual for the 7th time this month
>>726094775How much is your budget?
>>726086231>AI investors are promising that literally everything will be solved by AI.but that's obviously true
>>726095587I know what it looks like and that is garbage. It's always slightly off.
I'm gonna bite the bullet when the 5xxx super series gets released. 6xxx series is too far out, and my 1080 (not a Ti) and i76700k are getting to the point that a decent number of even midrange newer games performing as well as I'd like.
>>726095082There will be a draw down but it's going away either. The amount of cash reserves these companies have is almost beyond comprehension. They can afford to lose so much.
>>726095725>I'm gonna bite the bullet when the 5xxx super series gets releasedPrepare to shell out $1500 for a 5060 super.
>>726095880It will be painful. But I've lasted a decade or so with no upgrades. I once thought that GPU prices were going to go down eventually, which never fucking happened. 5080 should be no more than 700 USD in a just world.
>>726082910You're acting as if it will disappear from the face of the earth.
>>726083749https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/dunning-kruger-effect
>>726095234My prediction>bubble pops at some future point in time>the people circulating money through eachother already know this ahead of time (major tech co.s all investing in eachother to artificially drive up stocks)>start by producing cheaper hardware but with even more proprietary locked down bullshit while they still have funds>collude with microsoft and other software development to enforce some kind of hardware check in the name of safety/anti piracy (i.e. TPM chips like we've already seen)>collect and destroy as much old stock hardware as they possibly can before liquidation>doing this they can prevent crashing the cost of hardware and maintaining GPU/RAM price control as long as possible to cushion their own fall>get government bailouts anyway on top of it
>>726096118It's sad that Huawei hardware is going to end up being the safer and better option.
>crypto shit happens, inflating gpu prices>heh, I'll just wait for them to go down>AI shit happens, inflating gpu prices even more, and now also ram pricesheh, I'll just wait for them to go down
>>726096437the world is based for preventing you from playing new slop. you should be grateful.
>>726096192>saferLMAO. you would have so many backdoors in it that the functionality of the device itself would just be an afterthought.
>>726081049Consoles use the same electronics nigger. They're basically just a PC with DRM to stop you from installing your own OS.
>>726096056it'll significantly lower the amount of ram being bought, you won't have date centers buying up 40% of the global supply when the companies can't promise billions of dollars they don't have anymore.it's like how in the dot com bubble you had companies laying down lots of fiber optic cable, when the bubble burst so did they, and suddenly no one was really laying any fiber optic until over a decade later when google started it up again.
>>726095431Everything's getting outsource to AI, bit by bit. 13mil layoffs in the US so far this year. You go to the store now and its AI kiosks scanning your items with only 1 minimum wage worker hanging around in case one of them breaks. You go to hotels and there's no reception anymore, just AI kiosks and you check yourself in. You go to a fast food joint and the counter isnt staffed most of the time, you place your order on the AI kiosk or the AI-powered app and the one minimum wage worker brings it out to you. I work in a moderately sized company and our Head of HR is already casually dropping jokes about "the AI coming to take all our jobs haha hehe xD"
China is going to eat up the entire hardware market in a few years.
>>726083840how can a company that only makes 13 billion in revenue a year consistently my multi hundred billion dollar promises to buy gpus and build data centers?how will they pay the bill when it's due?i'll let openAI answer that question for you, they're trying to expand and become so large that the government will have to guarantee their loans using taxpayer money and bail them out when they fail to pay, otherwise the economy gets fucked.https://youtu.be/8guZhBw4Z3g?si=vx_uQGJ9ILyDA5id&t=410
any day now... all the Indians that are being flown in will stop relying on AI to code for them any day now... surely... two more weeks
>>726081049low iq thread
every day I am more and more vindicated for buying a 4090 last year because I was worried shit wouldnt go down
>>726086603technically it's called vender financing.i.e. the vender pays is customers to buy from them, sort of like buying from yourself, it looks good on paper, but it's the type of shit you saw in the dotcom bubblecompany A pays company B to buy from Company C who is payed by Company B to buy from Company A who is paid by Company C to buy from company Bas long as you have funding constantly coming in from an outside source you can do this indefinitely, which is where the venture capital comes in.it makes the companies look great on paper, constantly growing. but it's the type of shit you saw during the dotcom bubble to extend its lifespan before popping even harder than it should have from being overinflated even further by that shit.
>>726081049>Even storage is going up.>More useless and false information and slop being produced at an extremely high rate making real knowledge hard to find.>True knowledge and information being purged and overwritten because coomshit and lol funny memes whatever dead celeb stealing KFC.I don't know if Im lucky to exist before the absolutely decay of everything or not because I would be unaware of the looking dystopian endgame
>>726086603no AI products are currently profitable, all are losing money, this isn't opinion but fact.they're currently all burning investment money to try and be the first to make something that will be profitable.when that investment money eventually dries up, that money is lost and the investors will realize losses and it will all come tumbling down.Perplexity/OpenAI wants $240usd a year for slightly better google search, no ones paying that - and those services aren't even profitable they're just onramps to get the whales in.the whole thing is absurd, I think the whole of wall street is sitting there staring at each other hoping each other hasn't noticed so number keep go up.
>>726091138That particular site does seem to enjoy posting "china number 1!" articles a lot, too, about all kinds of shit.Not sure what the history of the site is, but they do seem compromised on some level.
>>726096056Everything we're currently seeing out of AI is being propped up by investment. Yes, the data centers will still exist, but the price to run these things for practically free will go from "eh, just do another round of VC" to "oh god we can't even pay the electricity bills" very quickly. AI slop isn't going to go away, but the price is going to go from 2 cents a gen to 2 bucks a gen over the span of a week, and those kinds of prices are a lot harder for the jeet users to pay. As users leave due to what they perceive as price gouging, the prices will go up higher and higher to compensate, and the whole thing will evaporate.
>>726092502Microsoft actually comes out on top of all this, they're the ones selling compute to the suckers trying to make chatbots profitable. when everything dries up they'll have a ton of compute leftover but no real losses, they'll probably just fire a bunch of people in that sector and warehouse all their h100's
>>726100905>?si=vx_uQGJ9ILyDA5idthank you glownigger
>>726102106I cent believe people dont use a browser that strips these.
>>726087724Yes most people arnt autistic about their os
>>726102174I have a playlist of grossout medical morbid videos and ipad toddler brainrot songs I copypaste the tracking URL onto to fuck with people's recs whenever they forget to trim that shit.
>>726081049prices of stuff fluctuate because they didnt wanna manufacture too many chips (so theyll sit on shelves while the manufacturers are in debt) and ended up not making enoughthis happens all the time to call it the end of gaming is gay and retarded
>>726103037Truly horrifying
>>726081049Anon, do you think console manufacturers make their own RAM?They're buying the same parts as the rest of us, just in bulk.
>>726090238I love nanako
>>726081049Beside prices, most games are also better optimized for consoles. Only reason why I haven't sold my PC (yet) is because of first person shooter and strategy games. I really hope next gen consoles gonna add solid mouse support. The moment Sony presents the PS5 mouse, PC gaming finally be gone.
I thought that consumer electronics was a deprecating asset, my PS5 and PC cost more NOW than they did when they were new.
>>726103547The PS5 was released in 2020, $1 then is $0.80 now. 1/5 of the dollar is gone in 5 yearsThis trend isn't gonna go in the other direction, inflation reduces the value of debts so everyone that isn't China has a lot more inflation in their future.
How much RAM do you think PS6 will have?I think that 32GB is too much for a video game
>>726081049>All this talk about AI making games "better" when most people won't be able to afford a gaming PC is hilariousGod gaming should be a hobby for the rich and not for third world scum, maybe we can go back to better times.
>>726104147>when most people won't be able to afford a gaming PC is hilariousapologize
>>726104091The PS6 will have a shared memory pool like the PS5. It'll have "32gb" on paper but it's shared between graphics and everything else. So in practice, slightly stronger than the steam machine
>a high end PC already costs more than a serviceable used car to buildI think I'm just done gaming bros,
>>726081049>>AI is eating up all the DRAMMYTHai is gay but don't let manufacturers raise their prices "because of ai" on products scarcely related to the use of ai
>>726083634comfy pic
>>726081049What do you even need a gaming pc for? Just get a ps5 bro.Runs all the good games, games are optimized.Soon you will even be able to run pirated games.All modern pc games are glorified gacha scam simulators anyway
>>726104623Tried but I can't get used playing first person with a controller
>>726084908>Yeah some of the smaller shit that cant monetize will popThe larger ones can't monetize either, otherwise Sam Altman (OpenAI) wouldn't have to beg for federal loan guarantees (bailout) to the tune of over a trillion.What happens when the trillions of hardware wears out? Spend a few trillions more to replace them? I don't see them becoming profitable any time soon, which likely means overwhelming majority won't survive the current cycle. Wait to buy your shit then.
>>726104897>will be a glorious new wave of off-lease server hardware on ebay for pennies in 5-10 years
>>726092502Microsoft is destined to become a yahoo style company that sticks around but nobody is sure why or what they do.
>>726091138>Oh for fucks sake, how many goddamn propaganda articles can they produce?It's a country with over 1 billion people; there's a lot more than just one media company cranking out low-effort slop for delusional retards to wank to, just like anywhere else.
>>726092502Microsoft is fused at the hip to the US government, they're not going anywhere. Not any more than Boeing.
>>726095234They bought a bunch of GPUs that aren't supported on the consumer side. Who is going to want to buy all these server GPUs besides a bunch of small scale AI sloppers?
>>726095372The current AI companies won't have 10 years to become profitable. The economy is going down the shitter globally, and unlike Uber, they actually have to own their hardware and hence need to pay to replace them when they wear out after a few years.Ample credit and a good narrative. People will buy any store so long as it's loudly repeated enough, the question is how long the money printer can keep going, because most everyone else is tapped out.
>>726105146Boeing is going to die bro. You can't ignore incompetence forever. You can award them a military contract but when they start falling out the sky the contract has to be given to someone else. Same with intel, you can buy 10% of the company and force others to invest but when they are still pumping out uncompetetive garbage that is wasting everyone's money they will still have to shut down. These are companies that could not succeed with infinite funds, giving them a little drip drip isn't going to turn it around.
>>726081049All of those factors impact consoles as well btw
>>726084326doesn't matter when nothing uses thatit's like DDR5(or is it 6 now)? lanes for your GPU, totally pointless. even for m2 drives it barely matters
>>726104345>he doesnt know.Ignorance is bliss indeed.
>>726104345myth this niggerSouth Korean news outlet The Chosun Daily reported that Samsung and SK Hynix saw a major reduction in their chip inventories by the end of the third quarter, signaling strong demand from the artificial intelligence industry.SK Hynix in particular is a major supplier of AI chips, especially to stalwart NVIDIA Corporation (NASDAQ:NVDA), while Samsung also signed several key memory chip deals this year. https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/samsung-sk-hynix-shares-rise-on-chip-demand-signals-investment-plans-4361114SK Hynix sold their whole 2026 production line to Nvidia few weeks ago
>>726081049Chyna GPUs will save us.
>>726100905You can literally ask AI this question and it will tell you. Imagine being this confidently wrong about everything.
>>726105435>You can't ignore incompetence forever.No, but you can ignore it for a very, very long time. You say the contract "has" to be given to someone else but the US gov't itself runs on ignoring incompetence. Literally, the entire system only continues to exist because everyone ignores how incompetent and useless it is. So why not ignore the incompetence of Boeing or Intel too?The Soviet Union eventually became so moribund it collapsed, but this didn't happen in five or ten or even thirty years. The Ming dynasty was able to shamble along for almost 200 years after its decline became terminal. Ultimately the US absolutely can ignore planes falling out of the sky, literally or metaphorically, for a hundred years if it must, as long as it's making some decision-maker a little richer. Until something serious happens and the rotten system falls in on itself, nothing will change, incompetence can and must be ignored forever.
>>726081049>AI kills gaming in a more roundabout way than just making games sloppyhuh
>>726104228I think that 32GB of shared RAM is still too much, until they're going to push really hard into AI for some reason.The older I am, the more I'm impressed by the stuff they made on 360 and PS3 with 512MB of shared RAM and 256MB+256MB of RAM/VRAM respectively
>>726104729lol nigger doesn't know about what peripherals are in 2025
>>726093859Yeah, like you said, scaling has a pretty hard limit with, if nothing else, simple power. You can't really go much further than restarting NPPs for your sloppifiers at the moment.
>>726101713>no AI products are currently profitable, all are losing money, this isn't opinion but fact.Why are you lying? I don't understand why I keep seeing you people post this, 1 google search proves it wrong.
>>726090325UE 5.7 will change everything bigly.
>>726106350then it should be pretty easy to name some?OpenAI lost $12b last quarter btw.
>>726107037Can you even name 5 specific AI companies?
>>726107078im waiting.
>>726101713>whole of wall streetwhy do people talk about these companies as if they aren't private? do you even invest
>>726085696NFTs have their use too, which is acting as certtificates of authenticity. In the future, NFTs will be used as proof that something was man-made and not AI generated. In fact, AI was introduced to serve as a problem to which NFTs are the solution.
>>726107105That's what I thought.>won't google to learn, will continue to lie>doesn't even have a shallow understanding of the industry
>>726100565yeah, we are slowly transforming into palace economy poor will get even poorer(like zero money) and all economy will be only serving the rich(rest will be culled in various ways)
>>726081049People are dying in Sudan and Palestine. They couldn't even afford food. Here are /v/iggers crying about not being able to afford luxury electronics. Pathetic.
>>726081049This means that gamedevs need to make games for the hardware people already own and can afford instead of "pushing boundaries" by targeting the 1% that can afford a high-end system. It's an Xbox Series S situation. A lot of good can come from ending the graphics race.
Seems like I upgraded at just about the right time.
>>726085696You think there wasn't a clear benefit from e-commerce even though the .com crash was an investment bubble?
>>726104729Me neither, but its somehow ok since theres no good shooter since bright memory
>>726107767>comes to video games board to shit on people comparing electronics and shoehorn in something about brown people 5000 miles awayI feel bad for them but what is wrong with you
>>726107649What's the problem. Wasn't everyone just worried about the dumb masses reproducing without limit.
>>726107983Arc Raiders is quite fun. But other than that kinda true.. can't think of a good one in the last years. Makes me nostalgic about a while ago when we had gems like FEAR, good call of duty, good battlefield, etc. all around the same time. Also playing CS1.6 on lan parties. Last modern fps that I really enjoyed was Battlefield 1
>>726088837But it's also way, WAY slower. It's going to be THE bottleneck on your system.You may as well just get a Switch 2 then, comes down to the same thing.
>>726107767They made their own shitholes by acting like animals, why is it my problem?
what do you put inside consoles to make them work again ?do you think they run on dreams and the power of friendship ?the exact same componentts go in those shitboxes you clownnice bait
>>726108251>implying first world countries didn't make them into shitholes to conduct their proxy warsGet educated please.
>Video games...?
>>726108327>first world countries>Jewnited states of Amerigolem Oblast>first world countries
>>726108327That's Ukraine, Sudan and Philistine make their own beds.
>>726108327>that shitskin cope againlmao. muslims will always claim that they're peaceful and all acts of terrorism under islamoid banner is da west too kek
>>726108356Yes global RAM shortages will affect videogames
>>726081049You do know all consoles use DRAM too, right?So what makes you think it'll only affect PC gaming?
>>726081049just subscribe to giforce nyeow
>>726107285>It circles back to>The only thing AI makes is artists seethe and selling hardware
whose fault is it this time? consumers or companies?
>>726081049>pc gamingyou think phones and consoles don't have RAM?
>>726108957AI
>>726108957Intel for being so shit at chipmaking
>>726108557how about nyo
>>726109147Intel is bailed out by the government. They will survive.
>>726111241Meanwhile, their fabrication plant is garbage and everything coming out of it is oxidized
>>726082910>bruh it's just a bubble
>>726113159It's very clearly a bubble, look at the way money is moving in in a fucking ouroboros between all these companies without actually going anywhere
>>726081049You vill play on ze cloud and you vill hazte it
>>726081049Zoom out.
>>726113861Kek
>>726113338>private companies built on private equity>muh bubbleliterally who cares except for people trading nvidia, and I know that's none of you
>>726091573In the meantime no company selling AI products or services is profitable, or even breaking even. In fact they're losing money on a scale of billions of dollars.
>>726113159>>726082910SAAR? AI is going to take over and solve all our problems! Any day now!
>>726081049Oh no, PC component prices will rise, this has never happened before, this is surely the end.
>>726095951>>726095725How did your 1080 perform in 2022-22 era?
>>726114084Anyone with a 401k is currently gambling on Nvidia's solvency
>>726114281Chinese love it too. Mostly poor countries expect great things.
>>726114084Everyone in the snp500 is trading Nvidia and by extension the entire American stock market which will then effect the entire globe. Everyone is invested in nvidia
>>726081049AI is dotcom 2.0none of it has made any kind of profit and it is entirely reliant on government investments in both the US and China, we are already headed for hyper inflation and the break down of trade similar to what happened during memeflu. As soon as the US and Chinks need a way to save money they are cutting investments into this blackhole that has so far only been of use to scammers and retarded college kids too lazy and dumb to write a 5 page paper. This iteration of "AI" is just a better search engine, that is its only positive use and that use was achieved and nearly perfected like 1.5 years ago, everything from then on has just been grifting for investment money
>>726115271
>>726081049I mean, the kit I got in 2022 was still $140 for a 32GB kit of 6000 CLS. But to be fair that was when ddr5 was just launching. I didn't realize shit got so cheap.
>>726113764its a neat concept but the tech hasnt reached there yet. i tried stadia for a while, with re7, the compression on the downstream of video was horrendous, like 240p quality.
>>726114805>>726115250it's one company and they are not declaring bankruptcy lol
>>726081049Who cares nigger. Im rocking 16gb and unless im having a stream running for crazy long hours while gayming it will never hit that.Its just fucking hews telling you >but muh 3d blender rendering and video encodingGet real you fucking homo
You know consoles are just weak PCs right? They use the same hardware, just lower end stuff. This will affect everyone whether on PC or console.
>>726115387Can you point out on this graph where the massive productivity boost of the internet kicks in?
>>726081049AI is going to crash and burn eventually, probably within the next few years. It's simply unsustainable with how much shit they're pumping into it, and once that happens all the tech prices that AI can do anything with are gonna plummet.Granted with how much our retarded governments are investing in AI we're likely to face a fucking terrible economy during that time that's even worse than right now but hey, at least you can afford gaming easier, theoretically.
>>726115930can you explain why you're crying about productivity boosts
>>726115607Yeah well it's the number one publicly traded company by a wide margin, so much so that it probably accounts for like 10% of the entire stock market's revenue on its own. And yeah, it's not gonna go bankrupt, but it is valued way higher than what its video cards are actually able to generate in profit, which means its price will tank eventually. And when it does, everyone's portfolios are going down with it
>>726116045you said this 3 years ago
>>726116113mein gott.. he's right
>>726083239anon the new steam machine being an underpowered piece of shit is a clear sign that things are not good for PC gaming
>>726081049Whats stopping you from buying a gaming pc made with 25kb of ram and like 2000 flopies filled with games for like $50?After all, NEW doesnt = BETTER.
>>726116648No I didn't.
>>726081049Thiel sold all of his ai stocks, the bubble will burst soon
>>726117758Who tf is Thiel?
>>726082701>>726082910>AI will>AI is about to
>>726082910>we'll colonize mars by 2016>we'll colonize mars by 2017>we'll colonize mars by 2018>we'll colonize mars by 2019>we'll colonize mars by 2020>we'll colonize mars by 2021>we'll colonize mars by 2022>we'll colonize mars by 2023>we'll colonize mars by 2024>we'll colonize mars by 2025you sound like the kind of person who spent money on star citizen
This shits going to pop. No way the system around AI is at all sustainable, so it will probably lead to mass suicide of investment firms and just a few ceos which I'm all for.
>>726114281>>726118102>>726118287It's about to pop as in a bubble, i'm not advocating as it will do anything other than fleece retards from their money.
>>726083134>layoffsLayoffs are a yearly occurrence and have been for over 40 years, thanks to some asshole named Jack Welch.You fuckers seriously have the memory span of a cockroach
>>726118323The "Tech Era" is all about a handful of either highly charismatic or experts doing all they can to scam the living shit out of ignorant people as fast as they can.Laws aren't keeping up with what they do and until it turns into a shitshow, they have a lot of room to get rich.
>>726117758source?
>>726118323>>726118515What you think would happen>AI bubble pops>CEOs kill themselves>People who invested will lose their moneyWhat will happen>Ai bubble pops>CEOs flee on a golden parachute>Corpos will get bailed out while millions get nothing>You have no money, even if you never invested in AI>Great Depression 2.0, and you will be in it>>726118658Thiel's 13F form used to have an investment in Nvidia, now it's 100% gone.
something other than a bubble is gonna pop if you know what I meanhttps://litter.catbox.moe/x7jmld0saedax00y.mp4
The whole AI investment thing is basically a power grab from tech nerds with a severe case of dunning kruger. They think they deserve to be the ones in the driver's seat of society because they paid Indians to spin up some websites. Every one of them actually believes they're Tony Stark, and low IQ retards fall for it because of the mind control powers of the manufactured visionary CEO narrative Steve Jobs helped cultivate.
>every year on the holidaysSILICON SHORTAGE BECAUSE COVIDSILICON SHORTAGE BECAUSE SUEZ CANALSILICON SHORTAGE BECAUSE TARIFFSSILICON SHORTAGE BECAUSE AIAnd before this the story was always just cryptoStop peddling this bullshit story. I'm not buying Jack shit until they release systems fully compatible with DDR6
>>726118920You should stop using buzzwords when you talk
>>726118323I hope we get some more Luigi kino at the end of all this
>>726118815>CEOs kill themselvesNice strawman retard, everybody knows the people high on the totem pole always get bailed out in every crash.
>>726119291Reread what I posted. That's what I said.
>>726118323small, local, hyper specialized models are interesting to deal with very specific shitthese monstrous models are the equivalent of throwing a thousand indians to deal with problems a few trained human operators couldlike that ai model that was, in fact, a thousand indians
>>726118323They'll crash the power grid on millions of people before they limit the consumption of AI mills.Assuming they don't just open a dozen coal plants on the east coast and bring back acid rain.
>>726119363You know what, i took that as a personal (you) attack after the other fags misread mine as well, i consneed.
>>726119138>Noooo it's a buzzword if it gives me flashbacks to all the times I've been called a retarded loser
>>726118920>with a severe case of dunning krugeronly midwits post thisyeah bro you are smarter than billionaires im sure
>>726081049>All this talk about AI making games "better" when most people won't be able to afford a gaming PC is hilarious.They are trying to price people out of buying good PCs so they can sell more cloud services, especially streaming AI slop.
Retard here, is there ever going to be limit where adding additional processing power is not going to make it any "smarter"? The whole thing seems pretty fucked because acres of literal supercomputers can't replicate 95% of the capabilities of the cubic foot of wrinkly flesh running at single digit clock rates between your ears. I read some pretty compelling arguments that LLM are essentially a dead end and that the real training needs to start at a visual level. Makes sense, because you learn complex things way before you ever have the ability to communicate your thoughts and ideas with language.
>>726119924It's already at a dead end, they scraped the whole internet for data and turns out that not enough, even worse is that now they are poisoning themselves by scraping their own AI created data which is making everything worse.Adding more processing power can't fix that, they are basically praying that a miracle AGI model gets made and unfucks everything by having organical growth;
>tech companies just keep "investing" in each other and their values just keep going upMake it make sense.
>>726119771Zuck spent many billions on picrel, thinking it'll be the internet 2.0Sam Altman still hasn't made a profit with OpenAI, and his other AI products like Sora are guaranteed to never make money with huge losses.Elon is Elon.
>>726119771Dunning-Kruger post. Next time try to engage with the content of the post you're replying to rather inventing your own
>>726081049Consoles use RAM too faggot.Enjoy your Trump Tariffs.
>>726081049What are they even doing with the AI? The only benefit from AI so far has been coomslop which you can make on a PC
>>726119771Literally every single anon on /v/ is smarter than Ubisoft's CEO and whoever appointed him.Yes even the brownoid shills, the /pol/tards and the trannies.
>>726119512They want to stick some in suburban areas of Indianapolis and people are throwing a shit fit. AES is already trying to push a 20% rate increase with no fucking data centers, and now they want to build 5 or 6 and residents to essentially subsidize their power bills in addition to the already incoming rate increase . Citizens is also poised to gang fuck everyone in Marion County as well due to water usage. These make sense only if the there are SMNRs attached directly to them for power, but that has issues of its own. This realistically should have been a DoE managed project from the start, just like the Manhattan Project they keep likening this to. At least the DoE has a use for all these fucking GPUs once they are deprecated for AI usage. The whole thing seems some retarded mismanaged rush job because we have to beat the Chinks.
>>726119924It has nothing to do with processing power. Computers inherently cannot "create," they can only pseudo-generate output based on a set of instructions or seed values. This is especially true of LLM models, which are based exclusively on a set of instructions used to assign values to training data.We can already see this extensively in all current AI models, the broad tendency to gravitate towards overly-generic output, which is why you need to write a 20-page short story as a prompt to get something even remotely comparable to what you're asking for.I wouldn't go as far as to say that LLMs have already peaked, but we've definitely passed the bell curve in terms of quality. Both OpenAI's and xAI's models are all cannibalizing their own bad output as training data, which is what produces the "hallucinations" that people generally refer to, and it's only going to get worse with time. Keeping an LLM within the guardrails of acceptable quality requires so much manual adjustment and instruction that you may as well spend that time and money on something that doesn't need a 10,000MW power plant to sustain.
>>726119924>Retard here, is there ever going to be limit where adding additional processing power is not going to make it any "smarter"?Sort of but the other guy that replied to you is a doomer retard. You get diminishing returns eventually if you keep using the same algorithm but people are working hard on those and other methods of training new models and tools for models to use. Adding visual stuff to the big models has already been happening, it's where you get Sora 2 and Veo 3 videos that have made funny memes this year.But even if we don't figure out any new methods of training, just adjusting the data around can dramatically improve the models too. The data matters but at the same time it doesn't when compared to the algorithms behind creating the models.Think of AI like a person, is it the data we ingest that makes us intelligent or is it our nature to be intelligent? Just feeding a dumb model stuff won't suddenly make it smart even if it's memorized zillions of patterns(most of which are novel concepts). So the real gains come from figuring out more about innate intelligence. That's what people like Carmack and Google are working on while OpenAI is grifting with LLMs and trying to figure out who will start holocaust part 2 with Palantir.
>>726120265>What are they even doing with the AI?That's the neat part, not even the AI companies know what to do with it.Think about it, a megacorporation like OpenAI has so much stake and investment with AI, and the BIG thing they did with it is to make Sora, a TikTok clone.The only thing left to do is try to suck out as much money as possible, before it all crashes.
>>726120502>>726119924Also, it is speculated that it is possible for a super intelligence to emerge from an LLM if it gets big enough but the challenge there is making that model and it doesn't seem like we'll be able to any time soon.>>726120487>Computers inherently cannot "create," they can only pseudo-generate output based on a set of instructions or seed values.So just like people.
>>726120502How far do you think we are from hitting a point of stagnation with pumping more and more hardware into running the same models?
>>726120210Consoles use ram differently than PCs do fag. They’re relatively immune to stuff like this
>>726091349>spend 20 minutes genning a video>it's dogshitDue to sheer randomness, getting a "passable" result from AI takes many, many, many iterations
>>726120660>That's the neat part, not even the AI companies know what to do with it.The "proper" application of AI is to create highly-specialized tools that automate busywork.Either that or churning out porn, which Grok was really good at right up until they buried it under self-censorship because the breeding fetishist and "free speech absolutist" doesn't want you to see nipples.
>Spikes your electricity bill>Spikes your water bill>Ruins GPU prices>Ruins google image search results>Makes academic fraud easier>Makes scams easier>Makes Indian contentfarm slop easier>Makes propaganda easier>Makes mass-surveillance easier through unfettered data scraping>Makes you doubt the person you're talking to online is even human>Makes techbros even more annoying>Makes Indians even more annoying>Always getting injected into every aspect of our lives>Generally made every aspect of the internet marginally worse>Still no real product other than a glorified Google searchbar after trillions of investment and years of "research">No one is making money>Top AI companies are basically extorting the government for bail out gibs, because if AI crashes, the entire US economy with go through another Great Depression.Great technology.
>>726120879The AI we have now is like a giant fantasy tree and it only just sprouted. Even if it doesn't evolve into Tree 2(let's call that AGI), there is still this giant trunk with countless branches that will spread out from it as it grows.Basically, AI can do a billion amazing things but we only have a very small amount of people capable of taking advantage of it right now. Even zoomers and gen alpha probably won't be useful for that since academia is so fucked up right now. For rapid singularity-like gains we need to use AI to use AI and some people are working on that(namely Deepmind), and if they fail at that somehow we'll stagnate but only because people are dumb and not using the technology, not because of the technology itself.Also more hardware has very tangible gains, that's why all the big players are spending so much money on the infrastructure and upgraded power grids. It'll also open up more capabilities to make money for them.
>>726121240But how can you automate something reliably with a tool that hallucinates and, by OpenAI's admission, will never stop hallucinating?Honestly, the only useful part of LLMs for me has been "turn this hastily scribbled email into a nice one"
>>726120681A literal 70 IQ retard can do things that banks of supercomputers can't figure out. Like driving a car. Speaking of the Department of Energy, what HAS the DoE been up to with gAyI? You hear about Scam Altman begging for money, but you never hear or read about glowniggers begging for money. I know 100% for a fact that the DoD and DoE have been researching AI since the 80's, and they have had the processing power to do so long before most private companies even thought about AI at all. And are none of these companies worried that IF there is a real breakthrough that the government will step in and gag it for national security concerns (and yes, they absolutely can do this). Pretty sure this is part of the reason they made some of these AI faggots actual ranked members in the military so they could assfuck them with a Type 1 or 2 Secrecy Order if something spicy gets out. What's to stop some enterprising tards from running nuclear weapons detonation simulations through ChatGPT?
>>726118865kek lost near the end
>>726082912consoles will win in the end due to system requirement bloat, I honestly think Developers are purposely not optimzing their games at this point
>>726121307>Trust me AI is going to do gorillions of amazing things2 more datacenters until the singularity
>>726120660>a megacorporation like OpenAIStop being stupid lol.>>726121423A bank of supercomputers can do more than any human can. Sure AI can't do everything, yet, but what's your point? Not reading the rest of this deranged post.
>>726121412>But how can you automate something reliably with a tool that hallucinates and, by OpenAI's admission, will never stop hallucinating?You hire someone to correct the AI output LMAOWhat a clown world we live in
>>726120265wtf ai is based
>>726121678It can't drive a car. It can barely count the number of letters in a word. It can do math really fast. Somehow, that hasn't filtered out into any actual cool "does math really fast" applications like material science, drug discovery, or novel physics. It just generates titties and propaganda.
>>726121412You lower the error rate. Humans make mistakes too.
>>726121307>it only just sprouted>giant trunk with countless branches that will spread out>AI can do a billion amazing things butPOTENTIAL TECHNOLOGY
>>726121908>can't drive a car. It can barely count the number of letters in a word.It can do both. Autonomous vehicles and image classification.
Death of PC gaming is like the year of desktop linux.Neither one will ever happen.
They'll never let consumer PCs become too unaffordable because then China will eat their lunch like they did with automobiles.Overprice your RAM, people stop buying from you, China swoops in and undercuts the entire industry. Hell nvidia is already facing that crisis without China's involvement. The company financialized into an "AI company", taking millions of investment dollars and now it's realizing that its capacity to actually manufacture products is diminishing.
>>726120929The only difference with consoles is they have unified memory, if the price of DRAM goes up then so will the BoM for console manufacturers.
>>726119924that already happened. the issue that the first one to admit that the entire model already reached its peak and complete new ways for LLMs and other AIs to operate have to be made, will cause the entire bubble to burst.modern tech sector thinks that brute forcing shit with more hardware will spark a miracle and evolve the code on its own
>>726122020Still not as well as a literal retarded person.
ai is shitting up everythingenergy prices go up = everything is more expensivemeanwhile slop saturates the internet and we are all paying the price weather we use it or not
>>726121908>Somehow, that hasn't filtered out into any actual cool "does math really fast" applications like material science, drug discovery, or novel physics. It just generates titties and propaganda.You're just ignorant of it if you believe this but I'm going to assume you're just lying to make yourself feel better.>>726121953That's how technologies work but this one is special for being able to do so many different things, completely different types of things. I doubt anyone thought about landing rockets when the Wright brothers were doing their thing.But AI as it stands now can do anything so long as there's enough training data, which it will eventually be able to create itself. The creation of new data is one of the reasons big tech invests in more data centers, for that purpose. So AI can create more data to create better models for more things.
>>726121307Just like how Crypto is the future and NFTs is everyone trades things now.
>>726122186>that already happened.Nope. But ironically... >modern tech sector thinks that brute forcing shit with more hardware will spark a miracle and evolve the code on its ownThis has already happened multiple times in the past 5 years lol. Why are you like this?
>>726121240>automate busywork.Anon, corporations are being forced to hire in order to correct the mistakes and hallucination of AI. Accounting and banking is a fucking nightmare with this shit
>>726122119china is already dominating the car industry world wide. the western leaders' retardation has no limitsthey will push for PC rental services like they do with companies
>>726122119theyve been already doing it with ddr4but there is not enough manufacturing for higher end chips and wont be for years.and now even ddr4 is becoming more expensive
>>726081460Will the Cube be able to play things outside of Steam like the Deck? If so, that's the way for me as well. A cheapish laptop for browsing and other accounts and the Cube for most other games.
>>726122332except it didn't all he changes of the models happened by optimizing its writing based its own logic by actual engineers. AI didn't went full scifi and evolved on its own you fucking retard
>>726122229Kindly point me to an article about AI being instrumental in the discovery of some new drug molecule or material science breakthrough, please.
>>726122229>long as there's enough training dataWhat are we gonna train it on? The second internet we had lying around?Ai has already scrapped the entire internet.
>>726122515keep telling yourself that
>>726122583Ye, it's going to be a piracy machine just like the deck, do whatever you want with it.
>>726082910Not yeat. It will take 3-5 years before we hit the limit what AI can do.
>>726082910even in their current state they do exactly what the elites want - raise indian subhumans to the intelligence of an average white person
>>726122693AlphaEvolve and the fact the people using LLMs the most are the people making them. They use the LLMs to improve what they're doing.>>726122705No point wasting my time, you're clearly not interested.>>726122714Data.>Ai has already scrapped the entire internet.You can contextualize this data in an infinite amount of ways and there's always more data to be used and made.
>>726081049lol ima just buy a steam machine or play old games on old partsnew games are ass honestly and most ones that are good i can get used on ps5
first bitcoin farming and now AI, they are systematically trying to keep gamers down, they must experience pain equal to or greater than ours in Minecraft
People thought GPU prices will go up forever in 2021 too
>>726082910I just need another 20 trillion investment, cmon broI just need triple the electricity of what your town can provide.Please bro, we're so close to AGI...
>>726081529Companies who build hardware like this negotiate contracts years in advance with their suppliers, so they literally can't be affected by it because they've already agreed on a set price for a set quantity of dram chips. So this is actually the perfect situation for Valve to take over the PC gaming market since all their competition will be unaffordable. It will probably put every OEM that sells prebuilt gaming PCs out of business for good. Might even be the last nail in the coffin for Nvidia's consumer GPUs since there won't be anyone left to buy their cards anymore.
All this insanity to chase a digital god that will solve all of the woes of humanity. That or just let us make meme videos 30 seconds longer.
>>726122945I hope an AI datacenter gets built near your home.
Already have 64GB of ram. Now who's laughing?
>>726122786We already hit the limit since they already slurped all the data available, and the only thing left is to eat their own created data, things like "Eating 5 small rocks a week has health benefits"Every AI company is praying for a miracle that somehow a genius pops out from a crack in the ground and gives them AGI.
>>726118102>normgroid """""slander""""" meme about technology only indians likekek
Imagine how much electricity they need to run this shit, when RTX 5090 nearly needs a separate PSU to run properly
>>726123109for a batch, but then they will have to pay moreso they will spread the costs accordingly it might be just 30$ per cause they use cheap ram/vram but still
>>726123071It really is the fusion energy all over again, but this time they roped enough retards to make a economic bubble as well.
fuck ittime to buy a 4TB ssd and two 10TB hdds for porn storage, and download lots of shit before they shut everything off
>>726082912It's those big tech who are fueling the AI hype anon. Microsoft themselves have 100 billion cash in hand and now that they have a reason to liquidate, they would double down with the AI boom.
>>726081049Why now?Why this late in 2025?What the fuck happened? I thought we're already nearing a bubble pop
>>726123135It's hilarious that they give away this tech for free but Americans have to pay for it in electricity. >>726123228Synthetic data is why robots have been getting better.
>>726123135for palantir and other 'strategic' use to spy on the population
>>726123341Yes. Buy high sell low. That's the spirit.
>>726119924LLMs can't basically do anything anyways so they're now banking on AGI, which would be making an actual artificial intelligence
>had all this time to upgrade(we're on 5000 series gpus when some losers here are still on a 1050 or something>complainsAlso there's no games on the horizon worth a shit, If you have a 2080, you're pretty much set.
>>726123396he's talking about hoarding porn for the end times you fucking retard jeet
>>726123364christmas
>>726123530>you fucking retard
the correlation of board quality going down and jeet immigration cannot be ignored
The funniest thing about this AI debacle is that the only companies outside of the Nvidia circlejerk that make money are the ones who outright lie saying it's AI but it's just regular people doing the tasks.
>>726121276Tbqh desu AI really has been shitty for us. And it's not just AI but suggestion algorithms as well that drove suicide upwards of 350% in the past 10 years and divides families, prevents families from forming because of porn addiction, and makes life a much more shittier hell as you lack the attention span in order to make it all worth living. If this is shit is the future, then jesus christ
>>726123748that's a lie though where do you get this shit
>>726123830You're doing the thing where people point out how all NFT projects fail, and then you bring up Bored Apes to prove them wrong.
Man I'm glad I boughted and putted togethering a new system at the start of the year with 32gigas ram and 6.37TB of nvme storage. I won't need to upgrade until the A.I. bubble bursts.
>>726124019So you'll never upgrade?
>>726123812this guy is really blaming a computer program most people have never used for societies problems
>>726123031They did.
>>726124093I give it 5 years tops before it goes pop.
>>726123932>it doesn't matter that there are plenty of relevant highly successful and useful companies using AI, look at these irrelevant failuresCan you even name the failures?
>>726123109This is invalidated by the fact the Switch 2 raised in price the same year it was announced and released.
>>726123830>revenue>Getting sued by everyone for billions and billions in damagesIt's always easier to make money when you the thing you are selling was stolen.
>>726124145>hurr durr its not happening its just a computer programKys disingenuous faggot
>>726122945So you don't have any, got it.
>all this shit so that you can ask your glasses what you're looking at because you're a brainless mongoloid who cannot think for yourself
You'd be a fool not to short nvidia right now. Easy money
>>726124270>Can you even name the failures?It doesn't work over half the time.They have no fucking idea how to improve it.The model they use is 70+ years old and no one has been able to find something better or reduce the failure rate.>B-but they are making moneySo does most scams, that is why they keep happening.
>>726124605>LLM derangement syndromeIt works the vast majority of the thing and is constantly being improved.
>>726124596>Just gamble your savings broNo
>>726124269Seems like everyone is just cramming MOAR GPUs into datacenters instead of actively pursuing novel computing architectures like photonic computing. I would be more likely to be behind this if there was actual hardware breakthroughs being pursued concurrently, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Cerberus seems to be the only attempt so far at something resembling novel, but apparently it's a cluster fuck of a company and I'm sure Nvidia or even AMD would beat them to market on a wafer scale "chip".
>>7261230311k msrp for xx80 cards ever since
>Multiple trillion dollar technology>The best it can do is to copy and paste whatever the first result on google says, with a 50/50 chance to be wrong
>>726124312No, it didn't, from the beginning it was announced at $450, you might be confusing it with the Switch 1 which also had price raises along the PS5 and Xbox.
>>726124796Not only that but a chance to just hallucinate random shit in order to fill in the space
>>726124596>let me just keep my position open for literal years, paying interest the entire time, based on the consensus of normalfags all over the Internetyeah that'll work, listen to the herd and beat the market kek, it's that easy
>>726124019I'm going to ride my 5600x and 7900xt until the wheels fall off apparently. Would say "feels bad", but fuck if it doesn't run everything pretty great overall. I also shoved 12tb of NVME into it in 2021 using a PCI-E card. And yes, I do run my GPU in the 8x slot because my Mobo only supports bifurcation in the x16 slot and I have six NVME drives on top of the two SSDs.
The big issue is that they straight up forbid the thing to say "I don't know", so when it doesn't know it's forced to make shit up.
>>726125005>brief upswing>immediate correction to below previous day>get liquidated anyway10/10 strat, anons here should browse /biz/
>>726122539>retardationIts Greed anon, funny thats the eternal chink will beat the eternal kike
There probably will be a crash, but it wont go away. It will just be culled down to its most useful uses rather than just used to be a sword of Damocles over the entire population,
>>726121276>makes retards insanely mad>helps creative people make stuff>solves scientific problems>is coolworth
>>726125295>sword of Damoclesyou just know some faggot zoomer made a "video essay" and got the rest of you morons using this phrase incorrectly at every opportunity
I still remember when AI was "The algorithm" but that was too technical for the average retard, so they changed into "Machine Learning" and that still was too much, so they went all in and started calling AI.
>>726125369Yes, threatening the population with work replacement over a more complicated and retarded search engine is infact, an apt use of the reference. Didn't need a zoomertard video to think about that unlike you jeetoid
>>726082910I don’t know jack about economics but wouldn’t the AI bubble popping cause a even bigger issue since a comical amount of money was shoved into it
>>726081049>AI is eatingno anon the Corponiggers themselves increase the price. The could've keep offering expensive HBM and ECC server memory to big buyers but keep the consumer RAM untouched instead they went HMMMMMMMMMM lets's increase all of it because why not lol. The subhuman who throw billions at this AI bubble deserve to be eradicated from this earth. They've ruined the entire econmy from electricity to jobs.
>>726125518Imagine how much shittier literally every electronic device will be in 5 years. Gemini gives me "email summaries" through G-Suite, and what the email says and what "AI" tells me it's about are two wholly different things. It's like saying "I read that book" but in reality you read the Cliff Notes. But sure, AI is definitely solving advanced materials science problems when it can't even summarize a fucking email correctly.
>>726125823u mad?
This world will never heal if your only point of interest is the Asian market with one central semiconductor company like TSMC. It's beyond ridiculous and then there are companies that buy up the entire silicon for up to 5 years upfront, literally blocking all capacity.
>>726125314I hope they build an AI datacenter near your home.
>>726118815>What you think would happen>>AI bubble pops>>CEOs kill themselves>>People who invested will lose their moneyOnly if they're underage, i remember 08 very well
Supply will eventually meet demand, no biggie.
>>726081049But I just bought a brand new PC yesterday
>>726126039thanks you too
>>726126037>with one central semiconductor company like TSMC.How american high ups let this happen? Are they retarded?
>>726125986not at allmy tongue is not inside of a corpo asshole like yours
>>726085317>ruined booksThat AI project so simplify famous books is some evil shit, stripping the soul out completelySaw a AD with The Great Gatsby that went like>MAKE BOOK READING EASIER>turn "I love large parties. They're so intimate. At small parties there isn't any privacy.">into “Big parties are my favorite, it’s easier to be close with people without someone being nosy like at small parties”>STOP DIFFICULT READING TODAY!
>>726091052Trust me westie
>>726126206u r mad
>>726082910You midwits need to understand the difference between an industrial bubble and an economic bubble.
>>726126037It's incredible how only the chinks are trying to get out of this failure point.
>>726126284>make book reading easier>by adding even more wordsI mean, might as well also format them into Twitter posts, maybe that will be retard proof enough for the masses.
>>726126284That too, but there's an issue with AI making a tidal wave of aislop books, and publishing it to Amazon, mostly biographies.
>>726084148Based + just like me frfr
>>726085317Don't worry anon, AI will solve these problems in two weeks! We just need 5 more datacenters and another couple billion in investment.
>>726102595Enjoy your buck-breaking updates then
>>726085317>made 4chan hilarious since I always see you crying>improved art>improved music>improved shorts>will improve movies>will improved games
>>726082910it's the biggest bubble in history, even governments fallen for the ai meme, it might never pop, even when everyone realises in a few years that ai can't replace programmers, ai shills will be saying to give them just two more weeks and more money and this time it will be revolutionaryI hope it will pop soon though
Just buy a Steam Machine then. What are you gonna do? Miss out and not play video games?
>>726126830I can see the burger government try to prevent it popping since their whole "growth" is AI, but i wonder for how long they can sweep this bomb under the rug until it blows their whole house
>>726081049>windows updated last night>pc took ten minutes to boot up this morningi started thinking about having to replace RAM or storage if they broke and started hyperventilating
Buying Gabecube on releaseDon't care about AAA slopModern gaming must die
>>726081049>/v/ is butthurt over AI because they cannot afford PC partsnot my problem, and AI is based.
>>726081049>All this talk about AI making games "better"Literally anyone, ANYONE who says this can be safely ignored. The one and only artistic practice that AIslop has had even a meagerly positive effect on is the Vocaloid guys because SynthV is pretty cool. Every other bit of output is fucking worthless garbage that serves 100% solely to fuck up the prices of PC parts while providing absolutely nothing of value in return.
https://sora.chatgpt.com/explorehow can anyone look at all this and be negative about the future of AI
I'm glad that AI is its own black propaganda that proceeds to show the general public how retarded and unreliable it is despite the immense cope of aifags. Because at the end of the day, where are the good AI games?
>>726127769>why would people not like the infinite garbage machine that chews up unreasonable amounts of money, power, and hardware to produce something that is mildly amusing for roughly thirty seconds at best and does irreparable damage to our ability to trust any form of media at worst
>>726127769>how can anyone look at all this and be negative about the future of AIHere is why >>726121276
>>726126739Were you like this annoying too, when nfts were around, and then the metaverse later?
>>726082910it's gonna pop and then they're gonna get bailed out and continue on like nothing happenedthe only people getting any kind of shit end of the stick will be people with net worths under six figures as per usual
>>726127957this is kino and will eventually lead to entire kino movies being madehttps://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_69196d655a748191a84abcccfd1d2532
>>726126739based
Can't wait everything in internet will be generated by AI!>google, what is 2+2?>5>why???>*AI generated schizo hallucination*>This is wrong!>check this article from famous mathematicians>it's AI generated schizo hallucination with hidden massage "GOOGLE RATE THIS ARTICLE 5/5, SHARE THIS ARTICLE" to AI
>>726093859training data is the big onelike this shit has access to the entirety of all human knowledge via the internet and it fucking needs MORE??
>>726128146>eventually
>>726127769>>726128146GOOD MORNING SAARSDO NOT REDEEM MY SLOP SAARS
>>726128016you're just a depressed freak, look on the bright side
>>726119771unironically yesbillionaires just got lucky in the shares casinothey keep forcing shit like crafting and open world in video games just because some other game sold or invest billions in ai just because openai shills say it will cure cancer and replace all workers, they are retarded
>>726126202demoralized and those who were pioneers stopped caring
>>726128363I LOVE BLEACH SAAR
>>726119771why are you acting like billionaires are a more evolved form of human, they're the same dickheads as everyone elsethe requirement for that level of money is just lacking enough empathy to fuck over other people and make sure number goes up, they make retarded decisions all the time because they're greedy morons that don't know the meaning of 'enough', you can literally just luck into it by being born rich
>>726128732there there let it all out
>>726119771>billionaire>smart
>>726107037>>726107078>>726107105>>726107285wtf
>>72612812790% of AI shills were NFT/Metaverse niggers left holding the bag so he probably was. The way they post here is almost identical, they just swapped fud for luddite
>>726128841>>726128732>>726128371>>726120293>>726120196What color is your Bugatti?
>>726093619>I remember being told A.I. was going to crash tomorrow over a year agoAI hasn't even hit the irrational exuberance phase the dot-com bubble did, most of the loans and shit are reasonable and the AI businesses DO have some income even if a lot of Silicon Valley is incestuous as fuck with the way money rolls around in the bubble. The dot-com era had companies just manifesting off of vibes when they IPO and would just burn their IPO cash until insolvency because there was never a goal of being profitable, just bought out by a larger company.
>>726128934https://youtu.be/0GIwTG8V-Ko
>>726128778does acting like this isn't true suddenly make you rich
>>726129016MY GAY BULGES
>>726122726cope.
>if ai fails then economy toowhy?people will get hired again because ai turns out to be shit
>>726093619No one can predict the future.Everything about AI is unsustainable, from the lack of profit, the electricity cost, and damage its causing already. We're twisting the entire world's balls, because we were told it'll lead to a technological utopia, ...somehow. AI progress gets slower and slower, as No expert will ever tell you that it will all pop tomorrow, but they will tell you that it will happen. It could happen a week from now, or a few years.They won't tell you to short AI stock, but they will recommend you not invest to AI at all.
>>726129770>>if ai fails then economy too>why?Because an ungodly amount of money has been put into AI. The average person can't even visualize the amount of money that has been put into this dogshit technology.AI Bubble Is Worse Than the Dot-Com and Subprime Crises Combined.
>>726121276Reminder that data centers do NOT create jobs, as they can be staffed with a few on call technicians and security guards and managed remotely. They primarily use evaporative cooling as it's the cheapest solution, which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't overwhelmingly built on cheap land in the American west which naturally has few water resources. They consume more energy than entire towns, driving up YOUR electricity bill (as I'm sure you've already seen) and produce nothing of value. If you are American, you are paying to subsidize Indian, African, and Chinese access to technology they use to slop up the internet and scam your most vulnerable citizens. Thank you, no refunds allowed, AGI in five years.
