Zoomers first time playing an RPG instead of live service slop
>>726086019Gaming is truly at it's lowest point.
I feel bad for you, Ramesh, since you're genetically incapable of understanding why E33 is a genuine masterpiece. Maybe Shiva will make you white in your next life.
>>726086019Name one turn-based JRPG with this level of eye-catching visuals and gorgeous music
>>726086019Why do we pretend as if pretentious faggots didn’t do this with Persona 5? and before that FF7.
>>726086441>name one {thing} with [false premise]No, no I don't think I will.
>>726086579K, enjoy Octopath Traveler 0 grandpa
>>726086741now THAT'S a good looking game, sonny jim
>>726086741I will whens it coming out?
E33 is an extremely rare thing in that it is a good game and it is art and neither side is diminished. Almost all games that are good and try to be art fail miserably to be art, and almost all games that are art and try to be good fail miserably. That's not to say that either the game or the art are necessarily TOP TIER or anything, but they're at least good. And that almost never happens.
>>726086458Persona 5 was never at FF7's level, but E33 is pretty close.Your analogy is insulting.
we always had complex stories, complex characters, superb soundtrack, super art direction and awesome acting in gaming :)
>>726087210you forgot good gameplay
niggerpig
>>726086441Shin Megami TenseiTrailsFinal Fantasy IV-IXGrandiaSuikodenShadow Heartsand about a hundred other turn-based jrpgs. Its a fun comfy genre you should play it. I am glad that Expedition 33 is exposing more young people to the formula.
>>726086441E33 excels in music and narrative.The visuals are nice but that's not what carried the game.
>>726086441What does that have to do with gameplay?
>>726089019Anon he said turn based JRPG. It is already implied the gameplay is absolute dogshit in the name. There's a reason anyone who actually plays strategy games doesn't play jrpgs for the gameplay. The elements he mentioned are literally the only compelling reason to touch a jrpg.
I really enjoyed Expedition 33. I think its a great game.
If you didn’t beat E33 within a week of its release you aren’t a real fan
>>72608692117 days
E33 is such a weird game for me. I liked it. I thought it was really good. But it's also something that's been done a dozen times before. Not a single thing about it is new or unique except for how French it is. And that's fine and all. I don't think everything needs to be new and special. It's fine to me that it's just a rehashed FFX with a dash of a few other incredibly beloved jRPGs. Even the creator himself says FFX is his favorite game and inspiration, and openly talks about other influences. He's not trying to steal any glory or anything, just made a game he wanted to make. I respect it. But these fucking Zoomies. These fucking Zoomies throwing out their elbows jerking it off like the it's the greatest thing ever made because they have never played a single other narrative driven RPG. It makes me want to hate the game itself.
>>726086019That's a good thing though, right? Maybe they'll try some other games in the genre.
>>726086741Looks great ngl
The hype around this game reminds me of GoW 2018 when it seemed like gamers were patting themselves on the back like, look at us we're Grown Ups now.
>>726090256At this point, not a lot of games are doing anything new or excitingWell-made games that do everything well succeed even without innovation>HaloIt's the combination of putting everything together and making a fun game with a decent story, that plays wellAlso in terms of story based RPGs I'm pretty sure competition is at an all time low right now and the few that do come out are mediocre sequels>FFXIII, FFXVhitting the mainstream audience definitely helped too
>>726087210It doesn’t have any of those. It’s a cheap French knockoff of Final Fantasy with some very poorly considered soulslike elements added. It’s an amateurish, highly derivative, low quality game made by talentless hacks.
>>726086441FF13
>>726091631if its a cheap knockoff of Final Fantasy then surely Square Enix has made something better than E33 in the last 5 years right?
>>726091631>talentless hacksWith passion. Passion changes everything in this world. La passion, bro
>>726086441I could name 20, but I'm not here to give tourist faggots like you recommendations.
>>726091803I have never played a worse Square game. >>726091837Passion? There may be passion, but that’s not enough. There are many people passionate about video games who don’t have what it takes to make a worthwhile game themselves and that includes the talentless hacks at Sandfall who lack the creative vision to do more than lazily ape their favorite games.
>>726091970E33 has the appearance of a generic fantasy adventure mockup commissioned by epic to showcase their game engine.
>>726086019I don't give a shit about what retards say on Twitter.
>>726086019>it's been seven months and /v/ is still mindbroken by E33
>>726086019The truth is really making Japankeks crashout hard isn't it?
>>726086019It's in my steam library and I intend to play it but the way people glaze it let's me know it's going to be ok but not amazing.
>>726092394It’s not even ok. Its a waste of time, but I’m a masochist who will probably finish playing it anyway. I regret starting it, at at least I can expose what a shitty game it is on here for all the human cattle who can’t think for themselves.
>>726092475Too late for a refund. I won't rush to it.
>>726092475What makes it not even ok in your opinion? Just seems like Mario rpg with fancy graphics and French pretentiousness.
>>726086019you don't have to be a faggot contrarian about every little thing you know, your good friends on /v/ will still love you
>>7260928010 pretentiousness
>>726092801First of all, it’s worse than Paper Mario. The forced dodging/parrying makes it more like a turnbased soulslike which is retarded and the pictos system is a more convoluted version of the badge system with a very annoying UI. The visual design is uninspired generic fantasy UE slop and the writing is atrocious. The whole game is half baked.
>>726086019I've been playing this for a couple days and I'm really not seeing why /v/ hates it so much. It's a fun JRPG.
>level design is barely there>no interesting worlbuilding whasoever, no towns, unique locations, cultures, mythology or anything at all>no interesting side quests or npcs>gameplay is completely barebones and the dodge timing is so generous that is almost impossible to get hit>act 3 side content is so fucking unbalanced that your only strategy is building a maelle nuke or equivalent>characters are completely underdeveloped except for maelle an verso>the starting premise gets completely dropped and actively shat on in the ending to the point that you could cut act 1 and nothing would change>the nature of the lumiere people as real or not it's not explored in the game at allfrankly, what the fuck are people seeing in this game i wonder
I find it really annoying how people act like this game is some kind of savior of JRPG / turn based games, because it literally does everything it can to make turn based combat completely unimportant in favor of just dodge / parry slop.
>>726086441resonance of fate.
Babys first JRPG isnt even a JRPG, only casuals believe that Plebbit 33 is above average
>>726094647every single persona game including 1 and Q are gajilion of times better than FF7. Even ff6 is better than 7
>>726086019Is it just me that found this game boring and derivative? Like I can see why someone would like it (I personally didn't, but that's just me). I don't quite get why so many people literally pissed and jizzed themselves over it. Even its much vaunted is fairly derivative, but that might be me being too harsh.
>>726094804And FF7 is better than plebbit 33
>>726086441Every Trails and Dragon Quest game
>>726094890impossible because ff7 is baby's first fanfiction tier of writing. It doesn't even remotely bother justifying a single thing any character or world does. I mean, the main characte is a guy with a gun arm who never once tried to shoot an evil guy.
>>726086019Good to see that Zoomers are capable of having good taste.
>>726094647>history of jrpgsDon't really give a fuck. For me, it's FF7/8/9/10 and then E33. I remember playing Legend of Dragoon's demo at one point. It was neat, I guess.
>>726094890You must be a raging FFVII fart-sniffing FFVII orbiter that thinks FFVII is better than the entire world.Spirits Within is a better Final Fantasy movie than FFVII Advent Children.
>>726086261rajesh, this is a 7/10 jrpg. would've been completely ignored in the golden era of jrpgs. prolly since 90% of you jeets didnt have a console/internet at the time which is why you overrate e33 so much
>>726086019>>726086261>>726086441>>726087068pokemon is better
Its funny how fucking retarded weebs are.It really is>YOU ARE ON 4CHAN!!Nigger listen up here: I dont care.I played douzens of Jrpgs that are turn-based and all of them had 3 problems:The absolute terrible writingThe medicore to terrible musicCharacters and the depth of themNot only is the story in most cases fucking retarded and full of tropes you have seen a million times but they are always presenetd in a fashion that speaks to Subhumans aka weeaboss>OH NOES THE ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWAKENED>WE WILL DEFEAT DA EVIL [insert mythical creature here in most cases dragon or bad gus]>MY NAKAS WILL HELP MENow the NakamasThese 4 characters appear in 95% of all fucking Jrpgsa) Shy Kawasaki-chan thatz is shy and always tells us how useless she is. In many cases born into a big strong family where she was bullied>H...hero-kun i will help you defeat the ancient evil despite beeing a fucking dumb child>Hero-Kun: NO you arent WORTHLSS you ARE STRONG!b) Hyundai-kun aka the CRUAHZY guy with ponity hair and in some cases pointy teeth>LOOK AT ME IM CRUAHHHHZY I WILL HELP YOU HER-KUN AHAHAHAHc) The incredible serious girl with glasses that always follows the rules. But actually dont. Also she blushes i nfront of the hero because tsundere (50% of cases)>Hero-Kun i will help you defeat the anicent evil with my strength. *pushes glasses up her nose*>*Maybe he will realize what i feel for him*>*blushes*d) Le quirky girl SAkura-chan that is SOOOO Quircky and always laughing but in relaity she is vulnerable and sad sometimes D;>HAHAH HERO-CHAN WE WIL DEFEAT THE DRAGON!>*starts crying in the cutscene because of some bullshit reason*>Hero-Kun: No dont cry we will DO IT!>HAHAH YES HERO-KUN!!!Now compare this to E33. The fluidity between cutscenes and fights are a true masterpiece same with the music that starts when fightiung bosses or fights.The character presented all offer a variety of emotions you dont see in 99,9% of JRPGS.
>>726098360>I played douzens of Jrpgs that are turn-based and all of them had 3 problems:Name them
>>726086019More like: people first time playing game made with AI assistance.
>>726097883lmao this jeet thinks e33 is better than ff7 or that its even worthy of comparison. it doesnt even beat weaker entries like 9>>726095129still mogs E33. babbys first attempt at writing le epic GoT shock death. just kill le heckin mc. too bad they forgot that if you kill the only character people care about , you have to make up for his absence which they failed at. niggas actually cared about the ff7 chars. e33, people just argue gay autistic existential shit like a 12 year old reddit atheist
It boggles the mind how a game with a great soundtrack, great story and characters and fun gameplay manages to be successful.
>>726086019I'm 67 and I've played most RPGsWhat am I doing on 4chan? Jerking to anime and calling you mellinail faggots niggers.
Rangeban anyone who calls this a JRPG
>>726098702
>>726098360nigger, e33 plot is dogshit. like a redditor writing GoT. it completely shits the bed post act I cause the writers didnt learn from grrm that killing all the good characters means your shit chars need to carry the show. that's why no one gaf about e33 chars and the only thing they talk about is the ending which serves as a dog toy for mentally disabled reddit atheism pseudointellectuals pondering some woke morality debate
>>726086019I turned 33 on the release date of this game. It is my favorite game. I have played dozens of jrpgs and it combines many of my favorites. FFX, Shadow Hearts, Mario Luigi, etc. It feels like it was made for me. Like it was a dream come true all the accumulated years playing games creating this one masterpiece. I am also white so that helps.
>>726086019Americans love this game because they are a society that is kept in line by the same illusion of choice and control they experience in everyday life.They love to delude themselves that they are living a free and meaningful existence despite any 'choice' they are presented (almost always just binary options) will lead to essentially the same outcomes. >Can choose between romancing two different ugly roasties>Can choose between two bleak miserable endings>Can choose to avoid damage by just dodge or parrying at simple button requests>Every character has two viable attack options which do basically the same thing >Map routes always linear but dump a rock in the middle so you can choose left or right way around it >Everything presented as an interactive choice adds extra 'press now' button commands for faux control feelings Like this isn't an RPG with actual ability to shape characters and control their destiny. But a binary world with everything laid out infront of you that lets you know exactly how and when you are allowed to interact with it.It's a game that tricks you into thinking it's more of a game than it actually is and Americans fall for it because they do irl
>>726086019Is it good by modern gaming standards or is it genuinely good?
>>726091631>with some very poorly considered soulslike elementsParry and blocking existed before souls games, zoom boy>amateurish, highly derivative, low quality gameYou havent played it. The plot might not be as good some people say, but its themes are great and the art design is impeccable. There is merit to be found here
>>726086019the assumption that ALL gamers need or want to play some turn based storyslop just shows how out of touch retards like this are
I like E33, but I still think the Act 2 epilogue twist is dumb. I'd prefer the game to have just focused on the initial premise instead of some dumbass family drama.
>>726091716+ Lightning returns + FF12
even metaphor was a better game than thisthere's like 100 JRPGs all better but one western RPG is suddenly the second coming of christthese people just need to admit they hate japanese games
>>726099250Its genuinely good which is why so many people have been hired to shit on it and why there are so many contrarians. Play it for yourself and make up your own mind though. Don't be like everyone else here lol. If still might be shit to you but when games cause shitstorms it's fun to check them out.
>>726099396It's definitely a weird tonal shift. So much of the initial premise and characters get sidelined by the end it's kind of jarring
>>726099396>i wanted E33 to be a boring surface level drama about saving the heckin' world!Marvel brain is a real mental illness
>>726098775Je ne sais parpg
>>726086441>eye-catching visualsthe game is fucking ugly
>>726086441Zelda Link to the Past
>>726099716it really is, the models are so bad and the environment is the same kind of 2006 washed out shit all over the place
>>726099196I love reading stuff like this thanks
>>726099778I can live with that, but forced temporal upscaling means there's basically no way to avoid heavy visual artifacting
>>726099250it is overhyped by the legions of bummed final fantasy players that only got neo trash ff for years, all in all a very mediocre experience for drones to glaze
mogged by hades 2
>>726099396Fuck you the twist was great. It reminded me of the whole trend of movies like this in the 90s.>The Matrix>Dark City >The Truman showAnd more I forget.
>>726099196>He didn't romance Golgra
Would retarded fucking zoomers shit their pants if they knew a game like Final Fantasy X existed? I feel they could revive it in the same way they "revive" random fucking bands from the 2000s careers cause of tiktok
>>726086019its just another episode of 4 dudes in a rowwhat's true gaming about this menu driven """gameplay"""? about quick time events? about a game done with store assets? about the boring dialogues or predictable story?is it just because anons lack art culture so much that throwing a little reference to actual art that blows your mind?
>>726086019So is there a reason the mage girl is barefoot or is this just a french feet thing
>>726099250its well made but if you dont like turn based RPGS with alot of dialogue its not gonna change your mind
>>726086019The campaign to make this game more than it is is truly a strange phenomenon.
>>726099664nta, but according to your gay ass logic, Lotr must be marvel coded because the fellowship is on their way to save the world.That family grievance twist was interesting, but it killed the overall drive of the plot and made the side characters lose their significance because they wanted to make a point.For me, they could have kept the original plot to kill the paintress and stop the gommage, and injected the family tragedy as a second part of this story.
>>726086019More like first time in a decade a western game has a decent story and characters so most people think E33 is the second coming of Jesus>>726086441The entire Persona seriesMetaphor Dragon Quest seriesFF7/X/13
>>726086019GOTY without question but the low IQ normie fanbase kind of ruins it.
>>726086261>Rameshwasn't this a summon in FF4?
>>726086019I can't blame them, the PS3 essentially killed JRPGs. Zoomers never had a chance to play a good JRPG.
>>726086261fpbp
>>726100190>praising japslop for no fucking reason>recommending a persona game thats not 4>fucking discount persona>look everyones goku, the game>no mention of ff8, easily the best soundtrack of the seriesMy fucking god you people truly get more retarded every fucking day on this god forsaken fucking website, jesus christ almighty you have dog SHIT taste, fuck
>>726100179>I wanted E33 to be about the original plot in duh first part AND the family tragedy in duh second part! And it was. L'il retard thought he was actually cooking. lmao
>>726086019this just proves that it's baby's first JRPG
>>726100521Are you stupid my dude? The whole thing was a fake facade in the end because muh escapism from family tragedy
>>726086019dont blame the zoomers, blame the games industry
>>726100223>normieGo back
>>726100656I don't even think you read your own posts. Your dumb solution to have both parts wouldn't solve any of this (not that I think it's a problem in the first place).
>>726086019it's just a good game
>>726086019The insane hype this game gets reminds me a lot of BG3. Good games but neither of them do anything that other RPGs in their respective niches hadn't already done they just have higher production values compared to the average game so the people who lose their minds over them just reveal that they've just never played an RPG in the last 20 years.
>>726100492>recommending a persona game thats not 44 has the weakest story of all Persona games barring 5 and that's saying something>fucking discount personayou didn't play the fucking game, retard>look everyones goku, the gameIt's Toriyama's artsyle >no mention of ff8>eye catching visuals>ff8please kill yourself
>>726086019I couldn't stop laughing.I thought the exact same thing."I finally played a video game and not just watched someone play a video game. BEST GAME EVER! Now I can fit in and never have to play another video game."Game has fighting mechanics of Paper Mario. Story of any Silent Hill game, even F, sadly. And then ending to Star Ocean Till the End of Time.Story could be switched out for Final Fantasy 6, or Dark Souls. Depending on how you interpreted this game.
>>726094647What are the good JRPG released in the period between Persona 4 (2008) and Persona 5 (2016)?
>>726086441>EBF>EBF2>EBF3>EBF4>EBF5
>>726086178Sad but true.
>>726086261Wow, nice bait.>>726086441Do you really want a list? There is someone on /r that literally made a list of 200 or so games that have music with an orchestra that is touring with their music yearly. We'll see if E33 gets anything like that.Finally, comparing an 8-bit game to the latest tech, but we'll claim E33 is special because they used Unreal Engine 5...no joke, couldn't even make their own engine.
>>726086441there are none, but e33 is still a 7/10 game because jrpg is a genre for subhumans
>>726087068What? Did you learn English as a 5th language or something.>>726086579Ain't this true. Have to try and make someone believe it's a decent game by claiming it's good and comparing, actual, good things to it.
e33 is the frieren of videogames
>>726086441>Name one turn-based JRPG with this level of eye-catching visuals and gorgeous music
>>726087379If you liked Paper Mario 64, then you'd like the gameplay for this. I will say Paper Mario did have a bigger world.
>>726099941/thread
All turnbased games ever made are really, really bad. There isn't really an exception either
>>726100792That family drama could fully exist in that fictional world ruled by the paintress and still retain the same thematic impact,. They only had to make a few changes to the story to make it work.However, the way the story ends, it made Lumiere and its people, and also the fractured lands of Paris moot because they are all nothing but a fictional plaything made by the le artist family as a cope.The E33s premise, while its interesting in its themes and has great presentation, its kinda stupid because it commits the classic "Its all a dream bro, wake up!" sin.
>>726090256Yeah, and their favorite streamers don't touch older games, so this is all they have to go off of.
>>726086441any Dragon Quest and most Atelier games
>>726091837Am glad someone's not taking this thread seriously. To many people with an opinion now, but the opinion comes from someone else and they just mimic the opinion word for word.The passion though. Damn right, the passion behind the words. That's what they are doing.Thankfully they won't ever breed
>>726101473what a sad life desu, they're missing a lot by not playing games during the golden age era, why are they pretending old games can't be played anymore, they're usually the best ones
>>726099004This is just word vomit. You didn't play E33.
>>726092394I pirated the game and am still mad at myself for playing through it. I kept thinking, "It has to get good at some point." I was wrong and made me wonder why so many people actually found this game decent.
>>726099004Man you really did love Gustave huh
>>726086441Moviegame
>>726086019Lil bro, it's 40 year olds hyping up this game, not zoomers.
>>726093207Pretty sure you just agreed with them by sounding like an ass. Didn't say it was good like Mario RPG.>>726093596It's like this for me. Someone tells me it's the best game, hands down, you have to play it.Play it...okay so, why is it so generic? The ending wasn't even unique.So, expectations were so high, that I'll never play this game again, and won't even show it to my children. My 4 year old would be the closest.
>>726101717>you really did love Gustavewho doesn't? he's the fucking goat (Esquié is close second)
>>726093754Some streamer that won't ever know they exist likes it, so must be good.>>726093996You can turn the function on to automatically do this as well. That's the only reason people like it. It's for all skill levels. Well, people with no skills that is.
>>726086019I've been playing JRPGs for 30 years and E33 was the first good JRPG since Persona 5 and Dragon Quest XI. Both of those games are 10 years and 8 years old.Despite this, E33 is a worse just FFX or Shadow Hearts Covenant with better graphics.
>>726101936>Persona 5cringe, persona 4 is way better
>>726098627It still boggles my mind how many people are single.I haven't been able to play a single game with sound since I started having sex.Then having kids, yeah fuck trying to listen to a game, let alone the news or anything like that.So, good for it for having great music. I'll listen to the radio in my car. I'll then tell people I played the best video game on the way to work because it had great music.
>>726101817Anon you have to let go...
>>726099250That's rough. Modern game standards...I think I could shit on a plate and put some music to it. Through the plate out the window and people would still give it a 10/10.Genuinely good...is 5/10 good? It's an F in my book.
>>726086441black souls
>>726102074>I haven't been able to play a single game with sound since I started having sex.>Then having kids, yeah fuck trying to listen to a game, let alone the news or anything like that.this is sad wtf
>>726099326How many UE5 games don't look good? That's like using AI to generate an image, then suddenly telling everyone you are as good as the artist the LLM was built from.
>>726099004If you kill off a character don't replace them with unlikeable characters. It's Abby 2.0
>>726099591Ouch, you pretty much spoke the truth here. Even bringing up Metaphor which was subpar.>>726099641I did play it. Thought it was awful. Glad I didn't purchase it.
Why do E33 shills get so defensive when you ask them to post gameplay or condemn pedophilia?
>>726100687Yeah...they made a game for zoomers. Would you expect them to be so good at this? The French seem to know exactly how to feed retards.
>>726101002We get it. It's a rip of any good game. Doesn't mean they have any clue what games you are talking about except Silent Hill because of F.
>>726099250Picture thisIf E33 came out in the 20 years ago it wouldn't be nominated for GOTYIt just came out at the right time
>>726102483>It just came out at the right timewell duh, the video game industry is garbage compared to 20 years ago, it is an unfortunate fact
>>726086019>>726086261It's literally an RPG made for zoomzooms with the QTE trash interrupting my turn based
>>726101603It's not sad to them. They fit in with the rest of the people who watch a streamer. It's the only way they know they have friends. It's not about playing and enjoying the game. It's about watching someone else play it and tell you how you should feel about it.
>repackage a jrpg with a tolerable story told in a way that isnt fucking insufferable>make it actually funny instead of japanese """humor""">let people explore the overworld and parry for 20+ minutes to beat bosses underleveled >devs make silly side shit for fun like an onlyup level>attempt to flesh out the characters more than most jrpgs, which is to say not at all>kino music and fightsyeah i wonder why it succeeded
>>726102549>It's literally an RPG made for zoomzooms with the QTE trash interrupting my turn based
>>726102621Another babby gameNot turn based if you can't take a puff of your cigar after selecting what move to do on your turn simple as
>>726101996I agree but we're going by turn based JRPGs in the last decade.It's just the genre has been terrible for the longest time.Final Fantasy has been trash since XIII.Dragon Quest only had one good new game in the last 20 years.All of my niche favorites are either dead, regulated to shitty live service gachas, or chased shitty western video game trends like action button mashers or movie games THEN died.I could not get into Metaphor Refantazio at all. Shin Megami Tensei 5 needed an update version to be good where as base Persona games are still serviceable game. Yakuza 7 was comfort junk food as a JRPG but overall not special. Trails has been on the decline since Cold Steel III and now chasing after action slop tends as a desperate attempt to stay relevant. I enjoyed the Sky remaster but it's not a new game.
>>726102617>japanese """humor"""don't put all japanese developpers into the same box, paper mario's humor is actually good
>>726102223Is that a joke? I agree with the pervious guy. Why does music make something good? Imagine being deaf, or living in an apartment with shitty people.I don't have kids and I can't play my games with sound because my parents are watching a movie. My headphones don't do anything because they aren't noise canceling.
>>726087413>Final Fantasy IV-IXImagine hating on X. Not a real fan.
>>726102765>Why does music make something good?this anon is right, I play all my games in mute, who need sound anyways, I just ruptured my eardrums btw
Why does Atlus make Excrement 33 cultists so mad?
>>726102860cope lmao
>>726086019b-bbut where's my battlepass and fomo skins? How can I enjoy a game without chasing imaginary ranking points.
>>726102860this scares the weeb
>>726102717play ar tonelico my nigga, you won't regret it
>>726099396If you want that than just play ffx.
>>726102904You'll live
>>726099396I don't agree, it added another layer to the story, and it mixed well with the rest, I like good stories when they surprise you in the good way, and the game nailed that shit
>>726086019only played act 1 so far and what i love is the music, the story is too early to rate but it has one of the best early hooks in a jrpg. the combat i'm still on the fence about, i think it would've been a lot better without the dodge and parry shit.
>>726086019>Zoomers first time playing an RPG instead of live service slopHow is that a bad thing?People getting exposed to good games is a positive development (if they actually continue looking into the genre and don't become the "actually [X] sucks except for [example of X]" type of person).
Maelle wins
>>726099396Agree 100%. All the characters dying off was so stupid and the family story just felt like hack writing. It turned a 8/10 game into 5/10.
>>726099396>>726103373I felt like it was ballsy to kill the MC just like that, they didn't play it safe and surface level, I respect that
>>726102992Not only played but physical owned the limited editions of all three games on day 1.When you've been playing JRPGs, especially ones heavy in anime tropes, you've become used to it. I beat absolute garbage like Time and Eternity and Hyperdimension Neptunia because from the year 2007 to 2016 there was NOTHING except fanservice and low effort hand held titles.
>>726086261>why E33 is a genuine masterpieceis it because of all the asset store assets?the male animations on the female characters?the girl bosses?the weak male characters?
>>726103506Eh I've seen it before so it lacked impact. Especially since they replaced him immediately with a look a like. The implication that Maelle can just repaint everyone made Lumiere dying lose its meaning.
>>726086019>an actual good videogame was made in 2025>people like it>/v/ still has to be madI know /v/ is always bitter and miserable but is this place really just for /pol/ and gacha now? E33 succeeding is a win for videogames as a whole but all I see here is schizo bitching
>>726103705>Especially since they replaced him immediately with a look a like.yeah but verso is an inferior character so it's not really a replacement, I didn't care that Gustave got replaced by him, I wanted Gustave back, they got the effect they wanted
>>726103752E33 was 9/11 for FFfags. Even after E33 fans have moved on, FFfags will not. They'll be seething forever.There is literally no reason for anyone to be mad about E33. A small (white) team made a good game not based on an existing IP and it was a hit. It's the only truly feel good game industry story we've had in a decade. It's a miracle it happened in the middle of the worst hellscape the medium has ever gone through. The ONLY reason to be mad about it is if you're a FF retard who is threatened by its mere existence. They also have no reason to seethe at Metaphor. Nobody else even gives a shit about Metaphor. Only FFfags talk about Metaphor. But E33 committed the unforgiveable crime of being popular.
>>726103752>an actual good videogame was made in 2025>bitter and miserableyou're so close on getting it, people are "bitter and miserable" because getting a good video game is so rare nowdays, it's just sad
>>726103842FF7 rebirth was a better game in all departments.
>>726103667>the weak male characters?How to reveal you got your entire opinion from a youtuber who didn't even play the game 101.
>>726102860because Metaphor is a much better game and story Anybody who genuinely enjoys E33 style everything is shit, look how grim and nihilistic our story is, is a literal redditor
>>726103506It was a good twist but Act 3 shits on it entirely the more you think about it
>>726103752The biggest haters of E33 haven't played the game because they're turd worlders>not on the Switch so they can't easily pirate it and play it on an emulator>runs like shit on the Steam Deck, the platform of choice for the 3rd world>even without DRM it still struggles on PCs older than 10 years old
>>726100298Wasn't that Ramuh?
>>726104012I felt like Act 3 has the good idea but a bad execution, they should've spent more time into making you think about the philosophical question that is about "are paintings' lifes less valuables than the Dessandre's family even though they have a consciousness?", it's obvious it was a bit rushed because they didn't have enough budget for it, maybe a DLC would make this shit happen though
>>726104012Act 3 was weird because it focused too much on the family as if we were expected to not care about the painting's world and its inhabitants anymore, something was off yeah
>>726104009>look how grim and nihilistic our story isNot every sad story is "grim", and the story of E33 is literally ANTI-Nihilism in its philosophy.
>>726086441Literally any notable JRPG made metween 2001 and 2015.
>>726086019It hasn't even been ten years since the last entry level zoomer RPG (P5)>inb4 they watched a LPYou can say the same about E33
>>726104009>nihilisticare you retarded? the moral of the story is that you shouldn't kill yourself over a beloved one's death, that life still has meaning and a purpose even if you faced harships
>>726103842true
>>726104080>"are paintings' lifes less valuables than the Dessandre's family even though they have a consciousnessYeah that is the better theme imoThe family drama playing such a big role shoved all the important questions to the side and made everything before it seem pointlessFor example if not for Maelle it gets clear none of the expeditions before 33 had any chance of making it
>>726103842>E33 was 9/11 for FFfags. Even after E33 fans have moved on, FFfags will not. They'll be seething forever.what, FFX is my favorite jrpg game and I love e33, and e33's creator also loves FFX, why do you assume e33 is supposed to shit on the FF series? it's an homage!
>>726086019
>>726103842>this retard turned this into a copy/pasta now south east asians need the rope
>>726105034truth nukes tend to get reposted
>>726104338>philosophyholy kek
>>726104338>>726104410>Nothing is real>Nothing you did in life mattered>Nothing you can do in this world has any tangeble difference to those around you>Nobody is ever really dead>All endings are bad, literally no possible way to achieve a good outcome Keep telling yourself this story is anything other than textbook Rick and Morty tier nihilism
>>726105176>shitposts tend to get reposted and several replies from the person that posted it fixed
It's the best game I played since I finished Final Fantasy X 25 years ago.
>>726087413ok now suggest one that isnt 20 years old
>>726105271I genuinely don't understand how someone can fail THIS HARD at comprehending the end message of the game. Like, you have to be genuinely retarded to get "nothing is real, nothing you did mattered" out of a game that literally SCREAMS "Its real to me, and it matters to me" at you through MULTIPLE CHARACTERS. Even the guy trying to erase the painting acknowledges this fact, but he is still trying to save his fucking family so he has no choice.Like holy shit man, did you ever pick up a book in your life that didn't have pictures in it?
>>726104459>>726105323The irony in this (which gets repeated far too much to be organic) is that FFX's story and cast are total dogshit with a couple very specific exceptions to the latter and it's been rightfully trashed for years. It along with X-2 and Star Ocean 4 a bit later were cornerstones of weebs getting shit on by the rest of gaming culture until that culture started to collapse
>>726105321boo fucking hoo faggot. refute it if you're this upset. it's being reposted because it blows fags like you out.
>>726105662>refutethe favorite word of some retard with no argument
>>726105551pretty much the only E33simps that bring up FFX at all are zoomers that never played it imo
>>726086019turn-based visual novels are not RPGs or even Gs
>>726086019Yeah, it feels like only people that never played jrpgs before were impressed by E33. I got bored after act 2 when the story turned to crap.
>>726105708the argument has been made, and you're the one who is mad about it. what argument do I need to make?
>>726103842This
>>7261058295 million sales at $40 doesn't even represent that group particularly well for all the shilling that goes on here
>>726102549If you had ever ACTUALLY played turn-based games, you'd be capable of making a build that doesn't require you to parry. It would in fact be second nature to you because turn-based games train you to do that.
>>726106060what turnbased games, you mean hoyoslop which kek33 has a remarkable amount in common with gameplay wise?
>>726105968>5 million sales at $40so far, it's only been 6 months, it'll probably reach 10 millions at some point (which is more than FFX btw)
geoffslop 33
>>726094890truee33 feels like a midtier jrpg like we got in ps1 and snes days which is fucking good
>>726086019That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
>>726106151"10 million", ESL that's also doubtful unless they start selling it for $15 in the extreme long term
>>726105551>>726105805Definitely not a zoomer as I loved FF8 and Triple Triad was the best minigame in a game ever. I hated FF7 and FF9 but FF10 is my favorite in the series even though blitzball sucked dick.E33 is the first proper "final fantasy" game since FFX and that's just fact. I think there is a big segment of millennials like me that hated the direction of all future final fantasy titles after FFX (and the sad state of JRPGs in general after Square merged with Enix) that LOVE E33.E33 devs just understood this specific niche of oldhead JRPG lovers that still wanted a grounded, epic tale that is sincere and without pandering too much to the moe crowd which is what destroyed JRPGs in the mid-2000s onwards.I mean before E33 what were the biggest JRPGs? Persona and Metaphor games which are weird fucking dating sims and highschool pedo simulators for incels. That doesn't appeal to me and it doesn't have the appeal of the classic square era JRPGs either.
>>726099664>..i..it was all a dream/painting and muh mental issuesis the most boring self defeating shit you can even make, its peak indie slop writing
>>726106242>that's also doubtfulwe'll see, it's too soon yet
>>726106243probably the biggest reason why I don't like being a millennial is because I have to associate with people like this at an age group level
>>726106112Normal JRPGs. Not sure why you'd bring up gachashit when we're talking about video games.
>>726086019>For gamers, it’s basically mandatory education and core curriculum.
>>726106243>another desperate wish for classic FF returnIt’s not coming back anon, just accept itE33 doesn’t even come close
>>726105550Stop trying to justify this stealth Isekai bullshit. The big reveal of the story is that the characters you thought were real were actually just figments of somebody else's imagination. The 'choices' you are presented with are just what flavour of self centered-ness you preferYou are shown that death is irrelevant in this both because none of the characters are actually real and that they can just be brought back anyway.It's like a schizo fever dream where you are woken up from and then scramble to try and find any meaning from it while you know it's just going to fade away into nothingness. Pure Reddit style storytelling, no wonder you liked it
>>726106946E33 and to a lesser extent Baldurs Gate 3 prove to investors that there is a huge market for big sincere roleplaying experiences. I genuinely think we will see a golden age of RPGs of all kinds, be it JRPGs CRPGs in 5-10 years time.
>>726106470I'll let you in on a little secret. The reasons why SEAs that can barely speak English are in these threads constantly and always the posters most in favor of this game are >E33 is very similar in structure to Honkai Star Rail on multiple levels gameplaywise>despite not being f2p, it's very much in their price range>the story and character writing especially when the upper layer of the narrative is revealed is word salad they are very accustomed to from years of consuming shit like Arknights, and the writer largely responsible for this is an asian woman >It's like crack for their fantasies of waking up one day and being a white supremacist, because said asian woman (who they pretend doesn't exist because she's like a self insert for them) is surrounded by white french people on the dev team>one is even a nepobaby whose father is rich and well connected enough to get the president of their country to comment on a metacritic user score midst his government collapsing for the 50th time>this is also the reason why they tried to force a badly modeled stick like Maelle as a sexy teen icon which crashed and burned, because in their mind that would be the white thing to do when actual white guys are still just jerking off to AI anime girl porn and didn't notice a thing>they've been praying for Japan to collapse for years, which still hasn't happened >they've been trying their hardest to get $70 games from Japan to flop by poisoning word of mouth (none of the ones they targeted did)>cannot stop talking about Final Fantasy because the last couple crashed on their own and they want to somehow take credit for it and show the market is dying because of it This is the curtain drawn back on every single E33 thread since it stopped being the current thing (which is also why most of those threads die out)
>>726108009>to a lesser extent Baldurs Gate 3>a lesser extent Are you retarded? BG3 is what E33keks imagine their game actually is
>>726091202>HaloI know GoldenEye64 released before but Halo really showed that you can adapt FPS gameplay to console and opened a new market and influenced a lot of following FPS (like it or not)
>>726090256tbf, the ffx turn system is just that good. SE ended up using it for their shitty gacha game too, opera omnia. wished they would have used it for something better but what can you do. SE and bad decisions, am i right?
>>726108098Lesser extent as in "sincere roleplaying experiences" not as in their success. BG3 is less sincere and more "marvel quippy" than E33, I would still call it mostly sincere but E33 pulls everything off straight and the humor isn't in a ironic or quip-style way which is offputting. I also didn't like how BG3 characters were clearly designed to appeal sexually to men which isn't the case in E33.
>>726108324At least we have one E33troon admitting the characters aren't attractive lol
>>726108051Or maybe the people who like the game made by White people are White?
the music is amazing in this game but it wasnt just that. the sound design also elevated it. i have gripes about the narrative and the gameplay, but the music + sound design was 10/10
>>726108480We don't look at you and see some kind of an ally, we see you as some cringe shit. Like a nerd with big glasses trying to get into a cool kids club
>>726108525Dont remember a single song. You must not be used to good OSTs if you think E33 has good music.
>>726106243>Persona and Metaphor games which are weird fucking dating sims and highschool pedo simulators for incelsYou gave yourself away with this comment. The fact you said you liked FF8 when it has the same problems of games like Persona and Metaphor.
>>726108525I actually go so far as to say I didn't like the music in E33 it felt very generic. But I also didn't like Nier Automata's soundtrack.That said the sound design was absolutely next level, the way they have the audio sync up with attacks and phases of bosses and big fights is seriously well done, and the ambient noise and sounds creatures made throughout the world also elevates the world a lot.What I think most people mean when they say the "music is good in this game" is usually just brilliant sound design, and not the actual soundtrack itself.You know what game has a good soundtrack? Shin Megami Tensei 5. How do we know this? The soundtrack outsold the game, lmao. No one is going to listen to E33 soundtrack on its own while never playing the game itself.
>>726108702Metaphor also has no sex in it of any kindAnd it's funny because all the ecelebs that were grifting E33 hard when it came out talk more about Metaphor now than they do about E33
>>726099396Yeah, the twist pretty much invalidated the rest of the game. Never dropped a game faster.
>>726086019GOTY for me from the moment I played it. I thought Silksong would change my mind, but no
>>726106243FF12 is better than 10
>>726086019I thought the game was mid as hell. Like a low effort Kotor.
>>726108823zoomers don't know that because they haven't played any of them
>>726108751they are doing constant live performances and normies are playing it on the radio. its gotten there.
>>726108702FF8 is an ethereal story about things greater than yourself. Persona and Metaphor are about collecting and sniffing panties and getting good grades so you can date your homeroom teacher. They aren't similar at all.Metaphor in particular makes me mad because the premise was interesting enough that it tricked me into finishing that piece of shit. It's just the ubisoftication of the persona systems at this point, going through the motions with 0 soul or passion
zoomer/ESL retardation aside the very focused glazing around this game wouldn't be happening if it was sold at full price. These people are too poor and they think rallying behind games like this will bring game prices back down. It won't>>726108970We already know you haven't played Persona or Metaphor, you don't have to keep trying
>>726108761You don't have to engage with the "dating sim" elements of Persona either.But you can't say "I hate anime cringe!" while saying you like fucking Final Fantasy, 8 a game about a bunch of high school aged mercenaries that happen to grow up from the same orphanage.
>>726108823>>726108858You don't have to be a zoomer to not enjoy singleplayer MMOs. It's the last main line FF game I bought. Didn't even finish it. It proved to me that the Square Enix merger completely destroyed the soul of the company and was dragged down to Enix's shit level.
>>726103842Couldn't have said it better myself
>>726086019Watching them try to defend the game yesterday in one of these threads made it very clear that these are people who have never experienced a JRPG with a real story before, let alone read a book or thought about the structure of a story at all. Literally when I said Gustave's death isn't justified by the narrative a guy tried to defend it by saying it was foreshadowed by the "ominous vibes" of the scene lmao. It's on the same level as if Sephiroph suddenly decided to kill Cloud at the end of the Mythril Mine while making it clear he intends to kill everyone, but inexplicably never does - meanwhile Zack appears two seconds later and becomes the protagonist instead. It'd be silly. That's very close to what E33 does. Gustave could have died from eating a bad mushroom or choking on his own vomit and it wouldn't have been much more silly than what actually happens. Hack shit. And the best the kids can do to defend it is claim you didn't play it, or being up some detail that doesn't effectively matter to the argument as if it changes everything
>>726087183Persona 5 was a much bigger thing than E33 is. E33 has the vocal minority of normies screeching about it that makes it seem bigger.
>>726086741Holy soul.
>>726109024>We already know you haven't played Persona or Metaphor, you don't have to keep tryingI played Persona 3 when it launched (not fez) and I liked it, but it was my first persona. I played Persona 5 on the PS3 at launch but got bored of it 15-20 hours in because it was just more of the same with nothing innovative and pushing waifus way too much.I finished metaphor because I thought the story was going somewhere and at least the "links" weren't romance based this time. I want my wasted time back though, what a ridiculous game and "twist" that sucks balls. Atlus is just the Japanese Ubisoft at this point. Completely soulless by the books games.
>>726109272Didn't E33 surpass Persona 5's lifetime sales in like 2 weeks?
>>726109272I still remember these fags comparing E33's sales to P5's PS3/PS4 Japan only sales at 2x the cost and hoping no one would notice kek
>>726099196Sometimes you just wanna be told a compelling story. Not everything needs to be an open ended "choose your own destiny" type of experience. Not sure what your fixation on "America" is did you get rejected by a girl from here or something?
>>726109324oh look there's one now
>>726109205What an absolute retard takeGustave's death is perfectly justified in hindsight when you realize Verso LET him get killed so he could manipulate the rest of the expedition more easily. He could have jumped in to stop Renoir at any moment, but he waited until Gustave got killed to do so, and you can tell that was very much intentional on his part. Try thinking a little and paying a little more attention
>>726109205>spoilersIt was bad because in retrospect it was a fucking worthless twist in the whole scheme of thingsLiterally done for drama and to move the plot forward and even Verso admits itYou know it's bad when an in-game character has to justify it
>>726109272nothing seems bigger about E33 at all tbqh
>>726109359I'm not playing a JRPG for a deep and compelling story. I just want to go on adventure with my bros and some cute girls and kill God at the end of my adventure.Some of my favorite JRPGs are Grandia and Skies of Arcadia. They don't have the most deep characters, gameplay kind of sucks, and graphics aren't top notch but it just has something I can't explain. Can you say nostalgia, maybe. I ate this shit up as a young adult and still kind of do at the old age of 37.
>>726109165It's the most soulful FF since 5.Gameplay is just ATB in three dimensions and hundred times more engaging than the parry-slop system of E33 where defense stats don't matter since you won't get hit anyway. I didn't use a single respect item since the game was piss easy anyway.
>>726109324No, it's not even close
>>726109691>soulfulMeaningless buzzword, articulate your argument or shut up
>>726086178I have said this every year for the past 20 years, and it has never been wrong yet. Each year we sink further into the abyss.
>>726109205Gustaves death didn't even matter since he wasn't real in the first place. Almost none of the characters were. But it explains the garbage world building and random sceneries. Why put effort in something, if you are flushing it down the toilet anyway?
>>726109748FF 12 has actual world building and a proper setting. Not something that could be said about E33.
>the average /v/ermin recoils in anger and confusion when someone appears to be genuinely enjoying a videogame
>>726109925the last word anyone with a working brain would use to describe E33 is "genuine"
>>726109918FF12's setting doesn't even belong to FF12 lmaoAnd E33 has plenty of both, inside and outside the painting
>>726109359>Sometimes you just wanna be told a compelling story.Shame we didn't get one with E33.
>>726109993spoken like someone that hasn't actually played FF12
This is one of those games I'm just never going to play, because the kind of people who hype it up seem to be the same sort who hyped up other garbage games like New Vegas, Undertale, Disco Elysium, and Dispatch. At this point I don't even have to play these games or watch anything about them to know they're shit.
>>726110041I have, and I have played Vagrant Story and the Tactics games as well. 12 is piggybacking on a ton of elements and components that were introduced by those other, better games
>>726110262The ivalice of 12 doesn't appear in tactics or vagrant story. You would know that, if you actually played those games, secondary.
>>726109205much like tv soap operas, at each act transition. the story takes a hard turn. its not a bad strategy but it means that e33 is very much a story for the feeling rather than a story for the details. to clarify, act 1 is all about lumiere and its stuggles. this was a great hook into the game, it invoked a feeling of dread and mystery. now, before we have to actually explain ourselves, lets move onto the next act with an entirely new feeling we want you to feel, the bonding of a new character and the family tension, ok done with that? quick we have to move onto the next feeling before the audience has time to ask about the details, act 3: different family drama, different feeling. its like they took inspiration from Lost or Twin Peaks. its not about the mystery, its about the feeling of a mystery. im explaining this poorly cause i have insomnia but i hope i got some of my point across at least.
>>726109993>And E33 has plenty of both, inside and outside the paintingThe painting has no world building. It's just random shit put together. And the stuff outside is only slightly less random and shallow.
>>726110262Listened to some talking head on the internet talk about* 12 only has minor references to FFT and very losely to Vagrant Story in it. Because if you'd played Vagrant Story you'd know it wasn't meant to take place in the same world as FFT at all, and it only became like that retroactively in more recent years
>>726110170>actively avoiding critically acclaimed games because you're this mentally retardedI'd understand this for ME: Andromeda, later CoD/Battlefield titles, the majority of the shit sony shits out. But the games you've listed don't even share cohesive themes with eachother.New Vegas in particular was 4chan's darling for nearly a decade and still is, but after that it got weirdly co-opted by trannies and shitposters decided that would be a good angle
>third worlders abandon the thread in droves seeing the majority negative response to the game Love to see it
>>726110408Nta and I understand but part of the issue is it is 3 stories slapped together as if they are supposed to be one. They are the ones that attempted to make it one cohesive narrative. If the story is meant to be told on a feeling or emotion it’s better to keep things vague and leave the player to wonder on their own interpretation
>>726086019I wish mods would prune Xitter threads
>>726110659I put NV on there because the game was complete shit despite all the shilling. It's Fallout 3 with more pointless skill checks and every road still leads to yes man, only a fucking retard would consider it a successor to the original games.I didn't mention games like cawadoody, ME, or Horizon because nobody here shills it. The games I'm talking about are ones that are heavily posted here and yet completely devoid of any merit, while not being obvious super blockbuster titles that were always going to attract children like Skyrim or RDR.
>>726110428>The painting has no world building. It's just random shit put togetherLiterally everything inside the painting expands on the characters and world building. Like the writers are represented by the Grandis and all of Versos childhood is there. I could explain more if anyone cares but I'm tired
>>726110659I think like this too, but mostly towards western developed games. Besides E33 I think the last western released game I played was.....X Com 2 which was....back in 2016.
>>726110897You'd be wasting your time anyway. 90% of the posts like that, if not more, are from people who haven't even played it. E33 has plenty of flaws but it's easy to see who's only here to shit on it when they write posts like that.>EVERYTHING was bad about it! story shit worldbuilding shit! just shit thrown together shit shit shit!!!Do you really think he'd be interested in having his mind changed?
>>726110919The last western game I played before E33 was fucking Miles Morales and I regret it so much. I only play old 4 nigga in a row games and expedition 33 was fun I have no idea what caused so much shitposting about. It happens with everything I like. I played Chrono Cross and FF8 20 years after the fact and thought it was amazing only to find out everyone on the internet was still mad.
>>726110897>Like the writers are represented by the Grandis and all of Versos childhood is thereOkay care to elaborate, actually? Cause I don't remember any of that myself
>>726110683another way to put it is, they made an excepttionally good scaffolding with act 1, then they got off it and built another scaffolding right beside it instead of on top of it, then got off and did it again. it just seems wasteful, they had a strong enough world for it to be both about the feeling and the details so they could have allowed the previous act's stories to continue upward.
>>726090256/thread
>>726091970Based
>>726110170And here we see the inevitable outcome of 4chan's contrarian culture. This anon has intentionally forbidden himself from ever playing a bunch of games, most of which he most likely would have greatly enjoyed, just because he thinks going against the grain is more important than his own enjoymentLet's all learn a lesson here
>>726109638Funny you mention Grandia because E33 reminded me a lot of Grandia 2, in the sense that it's a pretty straightforward narrative with not a lot of added bells and whistles, but it adds up to a very enjoyable experience by the end of itDamn I should replay Grandia 2
Honestly they could've saved Act 3 for a sequel and build up a trilogy on it>Act 1 & 2 = Expedition 33>Act 3 & family conflict = Sequel>Real world war = Third game
>>726086441Gameplay?
>>726086441Final Fantasy I to XIIIKingdom HeartsChrono TriggerLiterally fucking any game, nigga. E33 looks like SHIT artstyle wise. Nomura designs shit all over it.
>>726090256>I liked this game until I learned that boomers like it too and now I don't like itWow, ahat a flex
>>726111226>Okay care to elaborate, actually? Cause I don't remember any of that myselfIt's spelled out pretty that all the Axon's are Renoir's paintings and based on his family. So you can glean what Renoir thought of his family from them.>Reacher Wanted Alicia to succeed despite being a shit painter. Alicia/Maelle explains here that all his paintings are abstract parables too so that's where you kind of get clued in that everything means something if you havent caught it already.>HaulerThe only not fucking emotionally fucked up person in the family right now. She's holding an entire city (the family) on her back>Sirene Aline. Loving mother and creator. >Visage mask dudeVerso... he sees his son as a liar who hides the truth behind lies. Which has so many implications about the real Verso. Then there's all the stuff Verso painted >Monoco are his dog>Noco was the dog he got to replace Monoco when Monoco died >Monoco station trains , the carousels were random toys he had in his room>Esquie is his plush toy>Francois is Clea's painting and it's a fucking awhile to Esquie but secretly loves him so Clea is probably not a gigantic cunt as much as she seems. She's more like Renior where she will do anything for her family.>Grandis are literally writers poets and they're at war with the writers who we don't know much about so it seems suspicious >Simon was Clea's lover or something >Everyone in Lumiere were Aline's and mirror her family >Alicia has burns not out of cruelty but because she was drawing her as she really saw her and there was nothing wrong with her. She actually was doing what Renior said and seeing things as they really were>Verso is the statue in the center of Lumiere the entire time showing everything revolving around him>Maelle's painted foster families all loved her because Aline was painting her love for her >Gustav was a builder and inventor like Renior's symbolic representation was in the Reacher Axon level
>>726111585God I wish those fuckers didn't smear blurry vaseline filters all over the remaster or I'd have supported it.
>>726111585Shame the HD Remaster of Grandia II is still full of game breaking bugs, leaving only the original dreamcast version as the best one to play.A few weeks after I finished E33 I picked up Breath of Fire 4 on GoG and had more fun with that game.
>>726093754Second area you go to it the Gestral VillageDid you forget? Or have you just not played the game
>>726112230>>726112265Fortunately I still have the CD myself, now I just gotta dig up my old PC
It was fun watching this board go from general indifference before release to loving the game when everybody thought it wouldn't sell well and remain a hidden gem to hating it after news that everybody loved it and it sold millions.Underage brown retards need to be contrarians more than they need fresh air I swear.
>>726086019Zoomer here, Grew up playing FFX, persona 4 and tales of symphonia on emulators. We're not all doomed.
>>726086019Its just too good. Been a long time since I enjoyed a campaign like I did this game. Glad other anons enjoyed it. What's funny is I went into the game expecting to hate it because of all the glazing and finished it thinking 10/10.
>>726086019The game is just not fun, incredibly dull, literally dark. Oh aren't French people quirky outstays it's welcome fast.The story is laughable incoherent and gets increasingly non-sensical the longer it goes on. Obviously this was just a bunch of ideas stolen from other games lazily stretched together.Remember that town of gestrals that they fill with building£ and individuals 90% of which you cannot interact with at all? lol, never seen a main hub feel so artificially populated. Just an empty shell (like the game itself)
>>726112182>Lune was pushed and pressured hard by her super Asian parents not just because they're Asian but because they pushed all their kids to get into painting >Lune was also a musician and I doubt her parents approved because they were so fucking Asian>Its implied this is the same situation as Verso. He wanted to get into music not painting>Ironically Sirene and Aline sing in various songs in the game >Maelle is shit at painting>Maelle has no paintings in the Manor just a typewriter which might tie into the writer stuff>When you play the piano in the manor Verso is really good at it almost everyone is kinda shit>You can see all the toys that became creatures and places in Versos room >Clea has all the sculptures showing she made the Nevrons waaaaay before the act 3 optional bosses >Sciel lost her husband and child and like Aline>She tried to drown herself and Esquie saved her >Everything the fragments of the families souls (the faceless guys) say>The Curator is standing looking at the monolith (his wide it's real Renior)>Renior was an impressionist painter not realist like Aline so Painter Renior has a real lion in his boss fights not an abstract oneHoly shit I should mention the songs. If you count all those as painted. They all explain the plot of the game mostly on French well before you get to act 3. The world map is singing about Verso.
>>726086019>life is strange but now there's a crumb of gameplay that even journos find too easykill the industry already
>>726112634>Renior was an impressionist painter not realist like Aline so Painter Renior has a real lion in his boss fights not an abstract oneIs that thing supposed to be the weird sculpture hanging from the ceiling in the real world atelier?
>>726112594>>726112096>Nomura designs shit all over it.>Meanwhile at Square one of Nomura's 1 of 4 pieces of released art in the last 5 yearsYou can like both lmao
>>726112793God damn he's lost his sauce lmao
>>726112398>loving the game when everybody thought it wouldn't sell wellYou had paid shills in here from the moment the site came back up
>>726112594Are you going to ignore the real main character's design?
>>726112850>anon cannot comprehend the idea of people talking about videogames because they enjoy themSad!
>>726112850No you lying faggot.
>>726112717Yeah its in the same style as Nevrons he makes later in the game that you fight. I forget their names. They were like horses made out of Expeditioner corpses with an orb or something. There's a lot of shit I missed in the journals and looking around at corpses too. Like the Expedition that hid in Nevron corpses but couldn't trick them and got murdered that. Or how they mention an inkbath instead of bloodbath.
>>726086019it's not even RPG
>>726112854You posted the wrong image here let me fix that for you.
>>726112908That actually happened with silksong, but you third worlders couldn't abide that because while you could spend money on it, it was too hard for you to play and unlike slop33 had no piss easy mode you could just turn on
>>726112793Nice try, Jose.
>>726086019Why are RPGfags the most insufferable group of people in the entire video game space?All these people do is constantly act like they never get any games, that the industry despises them. ESPECIALLY the turn-base fags.
>>726113010I legitimately don't know what an RPG is anymore after seeing people call Zelda and Dark Souls RPGs.
>>726113051Loathe as I am to repeat myself:>anon cannot comprehend the idea of people talking about videogames because they enjoy themAnd once more: Sad!
>>726113059Holy shit when did he post that I missed it.
>>726113219Is that supposed to be Rikku down there? Jeez
>>726113219SOPFFO DLC 3 release.
>>726113272I wish they would free Nomura from the fucking Final Fantasy 7 mines jesus christ his art is so good sometimes.
How the greats have fallen.
>>726113260https://youtu.be/anqYfre10q8
>>726113051>ubijeet pushing forced rivalry again
The fact that the most customisable aspect of the entire game is the character costumes tells guy everything you need to know about it. Also probably the most handy holdy and restrictive game in years, you don't need to think or decide anything. Just press the button when the game tells you to until you finish it
>>726113521Based actual vidya enjoyer
>>726113521The thing that kills me about pajeets is that they're so fucking stupid they can not conceive of the possibility that it is extremely easy to spot them spouting bullshit. It's why they do phone scams so much.
>>726090256/threadI'll just add that we're old. And zoomers are dominating the narrative about games now. And most of them haven't played a lot of older games so they think that stuff like Ex33 is revolutionary. Also there's this notion that Japanese rpgs are childish and Ex33 is mature
>>726113545>pajeet who never opened the menu
>>726090256>It makes me want to hate the game itself.Why other people opinions would sbtract from your own enjoyment of a media? Are you 12?
>Southeast Asians getting a second wind
E33 is dogshit, the story is dumb and the music is mad overrated. I had way more fun playing Pokemon so it really just shows how retarded critics are, that received low scores.
>game bad!! nintendoslop is better!!>check platforms>it's not on switchYeah this autismal daily E33 seethe makes total sense now.
>FF7 rebirth "proves" you "need" to hire 100,000 pajeets to make a videogame>E33 proves you don'tThere. You now understand why they're so desperate to prop one up and shit on the other 24/7 here.
>>726113873Did you know South East Asia has the highest rate of Schizophrenia in the entire world?
>>726114029its so obvious it hardly needs saying. they arent known for subtlety
>>726114029>FF7 rebirth "proves" you "need" to hire 100,000 pajeets to make a videogameWho ever pushed this narrative lol what the fuck are you dishonest pigs talking about
>>726114112Everything is obvious when you project brown people onto everyone including ironically the same white people you worship daily
>>726090256>I liked the game>then i saw other people also liked it>somehow, i didnt like the game anymoreThat's fuckin pathetic dude. How insecure can someone be?
The biggest crime this game made is making the most attractive character a 16 year old
>>726114273Lune is in 32
>>726086019it is genuinely so fucking mediocrenormalfags play nothing but modern slop releases so they got used to playing 1/10 and thought this 5/10 is a masterpiece
>>726108694This. I hear annoying woman wails in an OST and I tune out hard. I'd rather take FFXIII's shitty "persona has lyrics in their bgm so let's try it" music over banshee wails
>>726114185Take a look at the credits, pajeet.
>>726086019E33edditors don't play video games
>>726114658>"The only real videogames are weebtrash"This guy looks based
>>726114658>trailsBro thinks he's on the team
>>726086019I legit dropped the game after hearing vocals during exploration
>>726114557I'm not talking about the dev count of jeets. I'm asking who ever said anything about Rebirth proving that you need a bunch of developers? This has never been part of the discussion. Ex33 was praised because it was done with a small team(which many times, you can tell). But AAA games need massive teams and that's something everyone just intrinsically understands. It isn't criticism or praiseworthy. It's just a fact about game development.
>>726114501https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juVZ0TN_2EA&list=RDjuVZ0TN_2EA&start_radio=1what did you think of xv opera singing
>>726086441>musicYs 8
>>726114867Actually good with harmony. Meanwhile e33's music reminds me of Diablo 3 trailers with random wails for the sake of wailing
>>726090256Its xenophobia.The one wrpg (that is just derivative of jrpgs but polished) and everyones glazing it.I bet you if some AA studio tried to make a danganclone with the same polish, same shit would happen
>>726086019Normies gonna normie
Anons never actually explain what gets them so mad about this game. They usually just get mad "somebody else really enjoyed this! STOP IT!" or they say blatantly retarded shit like "The OST sucked, everything sucked" Why has this game mind broken some so hard? Try putting words to your emotions you faggots.
>>726086019It's for turbo normies who hate RPGs, these people have probably played like 3 games in their entire lives and will have no idea just how much it stole from other games. I mean the world is pretty much just a straight up copy of Xenoblade chronicles 3
>>726115542It's mostly weebs being mad their turn-based slop got surpassed
>>726115710From what I've seen you're probably right. They usually say "you never played a video game in your life" then they always just list Japanese shit. Couldn't even finish my post before another showed up doing exactly what I was saying lmao >>726115585
>>726115710>2024>weebs got mad a literal card games won GOTY>2025>weebs got mad a game NOT jrpg is being talked more than their favourite jrpgMaybe enjoying jrpg so much it's not healthy if weebs are so easily triggered by outside events...
>>726115585>I HATE THIS GAME BECAUSE ITS LIKE OTHER GAMES THAT I LIKE
>>726086019>/v/ tells me Undertale is shit>play it>its great>/v/ tells me Disco Elysium is shit>play it>its great>/v/ tells me Metaphor is shit>play it>its great>/v/ tells me DMCV is shit>play it>its great>/v/ tells me E3 is shit>play it>its greatStarting to notice a pattern here
>>726116061>>/v/ tells me Metaphor is shit>>play it
>>726086019Still nothing but the most overrated game ever exist
>>726116061You will not repair metaphor tribalism with this post, e33 shills simply hate it too much
>>726116061/v/ tells me [game] is good>play it>it's shitThis place is bizarro world I swear
>>726112096I played Chrono Trigger because of shills like you and it fucking sucked ass compared to E33. If you gonna day something at least mention Radiant Historia you fucking faggot, because Chrono Mid isn't it. Literally barebones development for almost everyone, the development that is there is not that great either, just generic anime backstories.
>>726116061This is actually an amazing hack. Whenever /v/ starts chimping out about a game I always make sure to give it a good look, and more often than not they're great. The only times they've turned out to be legit bad were Dustborn, Dragon Age and the latest AC, but I could've told you those were gonna be bad on my own
>>726086441Soundtrack is mid and graphics are ass though
>>726114185>dishonestlook at the credits, buddy>>726114759>I'm not talking about the 100000 pajeets who worked on rebirth!!!lmao now who's dishonest?
>>726115848>list Japanese shitWhen talking about JRPG inspired games?? No fucking way
>>726086441Persona 5, a game form this decade will forever overshadow E33.
>>726086019>16-year olds discovering non-live service>BRO IT SHOULD BE CORE CURRICULUMKek, gaming really has gone down the shitter.
>>726116507Did you read the post, anon?
Any retard mentioning fucking Dragon Quest, Persona, Atelier, Tales or fucking SMT of all things and still wonder why no normie takes your opinion seriously and suck E33 cock instead need to shoot themselves for real.You are LITERALLY giving then more reasons to shill for that game since all the examples you are giving them are FUCKING GARBAGE, if that's the best you got you sre reaffirming their beliefs by using those shit ass games as counterpoints.
>>726086019I'm never touching that AI slop.
>>726098360i agreeloved persona 3/4/5 for example but jesus christ the narration and writing is just obnoxious animeslop, so watered down it just makes you want to skip every dialoguee33 has a mature story, with considerable plot twists that really make a difference
>>726116624yes I saw you proving >>726114029 was right
>>726086019Actually Geoff and the other small hats said it wasn't and you wouldn't want to be antisemitic and disagree with them, world you?
>>726116747Okay, so you didn't. Have a nice day.
>>726117003how many jeets worked on rebirth and how many worked on e33?
>>726086019>parry slopthis year atelier was a better turn by turn game.
>>726117174Better at pornbait maybe but that's about it lol.
>>726086019Emotion-slop>waowao so sad music, just like undertale. Don't you love our tragic characters yet?No, no I did not care for your frog characters, or it's matrix nonsense plot twist. It's an 8-8.5 game, its great, but the late game balance is awful. Its popularity hinges completely on the emotional immaturity of its audience. The feverish dedication they have to this game is rooted entierly in their emotional investment in some pretty average at best tragic characters.
>>726117171Anon, in my post where did I dispute that many Jeets worked on Rebirth? Go point out the sentence where I said that. Go on.
>>726112096>Kingdom HeartsIsn't that one about Mickey Mouse?
>>726086019Post p3r gameplay compared to e33
>>726086019Pretentious artfags gas this game up like it's the next coming of Christ, yet they get very quiet when you bring up that the game uses generative AI assets.
>>726117307Sounds like you just aren't into emotional stories or tragedies.
>>726117361you didn't dispute it, in fact you proved >>726114029 was right.
>>726103842Grim, but it had to be said.
>>726117419>yet they get very quiet when you bring up that the game uses generative AI assetsIf true then it was still up to devs to select the most appropriate ones
You "people" attach the word "slop" to anything broI'll fucking eat something I don't like and call it nutrition slop
>>726116684I know this isn't a video games but I tell new E33 fans to watch the Big O anime because it has Art Deco, a ginger girl and pretty much has the same twist.
>>726117419Next time they should hire half a million indians instead of using AI placeholder art, I agree.
>>726116270>I played Chrono Trigger because of shills like you and it fucking sucked ass compared to E33.Try Chrono Cross next. Its story is actually mature and deals with death and a parallel universe which in a way E3e kind of does. Trigger fans hate it because it was too different so you might like it. The art direction is all hand painted backgrounds and the music is some of the best in video games.
>>726114029/thread
>>726117510No, I did not prove him right. The discussion surrounding Ex33 vs Rebirth never was about jeets. I called him out for making up a narrative. Never has anyone said "Boy Rebirth sure is a great game which proves we need jeets!" That just never happened. Anon made that up.
>>726086019I liked the gane but I'm sick of every turn based game feeling like it needs a "gimmick" to "spice-up" turn based combat.In this game there's no real turn/action economy because if you're good you have infinite turns with the only pressure to be efficient being to end the encounter quicker so there's fewer chances to mess up a parry. I unironically think it should've been more like Paper Mario where timing blocks is more about mitigating damage rather than nullifying it.SMTV (base game I haven't tried vengeance yet) is a game with good action/resource economy autism imo. You can often get your team in a loop where you have everyone doing their biggest damage moves and then you have someone topping everybody else off, but since magic costs MP there's a countdown for how long that strategy works, and if you need to take a turn in that game to reapply buffs/debuffs whatever you really feel the opportunity cost of not attacking that turn since you miss out on the press turn, unless you do it as your second action but there are pros and cons and also you have MP meters you need to manage on attackers too so if you need to restore MP or switch them out with a character on the backline which have opportunity cost.Not trying to start gamewar shit, I like how the parrying "feels" in E33 but I felt like it overshadowed any chance for the game to be strategic, which the game does have potential for especially with the unique mechanics for each character.
>>726117591I saw someone call something quality slop the other day kek
>>726087068Video games are toys, not art
I should have known Clair Obscure would develop one of “those” fanbases.
>>726117794Correct.Indians are still more human than generative AI.
Why don’t we just nuke Japan again since we don’t need them anymore?
>>726086741>CREATE YOU'RE OWN CHARACTER!!!As if the story of those games wasn't atrocious enough
>>726118012>trying to start gamewar shit, I like how the parrying "feels" in E33 but I felt like it overshadowed any chance for the game to be strategic, which the game does have potential for especially with the unique mechanics for each character.I appreciate real criticism but I find it funny because I am so shit at video games and reflexes that for 2/3rds of the game it was like a fluke that I managed to parry or role. So I had to strategize around how shit I was at the game which was actually really fun. I put on shield stuff but that halved my total HP and found ways to make Verso shoot everything to get AP instead of parrying. Then I eventually could parry somehow.
>>726118079This is why pricing games over $60 is actually a good thing, because you reduce accessibility to a lot of these people
>>726117976you are really bad at covering your tracks, ranesh. of course you don't say it like that, you just post 1000 times a day to say one was shit and the other was kino. why? because one proves you aren't needed
>>726118079It attracted a big chunk of the FF fanbase, you should know what to expect
>>726116270Why would you expect significant character development in Chrono Trigger, you retard?The whole point is that it's a simple, but extremely charming story.It's like a Ghibli film.
>>726118296I gotta say, this is a new one. You actually just attempted to turn Rebirth vs Ex33 into some jeet vs frog shit lol It's clear you don't go in threads about either game. In fact, I doubt you even played them. Like i said from the beginning, dishonest.
>>726117386No, it's about MYSTERY NIGGAS.
>>726117419>I am a lying faggot and I suck cocksCool blogpost.
>>726086441Bravely Default still has one of the best soundtracks in games. That boss battle theme somehow works across such a variety of different bosses, it's nuts. Not to mention the hero themes kicking in during special attacks, which isn't even getting into where else they kick in.
>>726086019natural result of them growing up in an age where vidya went white collar
>>726118603who said anything about frogs? tsk tsk dishonest again anon.anyway thanks for proving >>726114029 right
>>726117436No, I love them. I loved undertale when I played it back in 2015 too, even though I used it to berate e33 enjoyers. I just did not connect at all with the cast, and the "twist" was retarded. >Hey, feel like some of our cast is a bit underdeveloped? Well, no wonder, they are not real (or are they? :o) >They are not real, nothing ever mattered, you were experiencing artsy VR, it is time to wake up since nothing mattered. But feel bad for the characters who are not real or whatever.No. It was not that good, or clever, and I did not need another reason to not care about the characters, but you still gave me more. Good music though.
>>726094647FF7 isn't a turn-based RPG. It's a timer/cooldown-based RPG. It's literally called the Active Time Battle (ATB) system.The only turn-based mainline FFs are FF1, FF2, FF3, and FF10. A few of the side FFs (and sequels) also have turn-based.
>>726118806stop quoting your own post you dishonest pig
>>726118935A lot of these let you turn off ATB though.Also ATB determines the turns you take...
>>726118853>underdevelopedThey were more developed than most games I've played recently let alone rpgs
>>726117003>claimed to be leaving half an hour ago>still madpostingdishonest
>>726118603>dishonestProjection
>>726086261I bet your favourite "rpg" before playing e33 was Dark Souls or Elden Ring
>>726086019I gotta say, the amount of shilling, botting and astroturfing this game has received has been truly mind-blowing. I think this has to be THE most shilled game in the history of video games.Every time I go online I see dozens of people claiming how it's the BEST GAME EVER MADE and how it is a gold standard that every JRPG must strive towards.Hell, I had no interest in the game at all because I think turn-based combat with QTE parry slop gameplay is fucking dumb but even I got somewhat affected by all the advertising and I think I will give this game a try eventually to see what it's all about. But only when I can get it for $15 or less, I ain't paying $50 for this slop lmao.It's amazing how much a small no-name indie studio can achieve nowadays with the assistance of CCP bot farms and underpaid pajeet marketers.
>>726115585Is there a sense of attachment to the characters? Do you feel others are undeserving of enjoying a game in the genre without having played the first 1000 releases? Do you feel the devs were short changed? I'm trying to figure out what's making you so angry about this game that, by your own admission, uses a lot of things that games you like use.
>>726119349posts like this are so funny because all they do is announce what games you have a personal chip on your shoulder about out of fucking nowhere.
>>726119460>anon thinks THIS is the most shilled game of all timeThis is proof enough to me they're sending people to make shit up about the game. Either that or you only just got here and this is your first good game to release while on /v/.
>>726119460>people like a videogame>/v/ users go full qanonmy condolences
>>726119460Daddy paid for a botfarm to boost the metacritic score and then asked his buttpal macron to shill it on national tv
I cant give a single fuck about how a game looks if I dont care about the story or the characters and dont get any joy from the gameplay. It feels like people are saying this game is good just because they heard someone else say its good.
>>726119460>THE most shilled game in the history of video games.Oh boy how old are you?
>>726119460E33 really is 9/11 for jeets eh
Put an E33kek in one of those call centers for 10 minutes and it'll want to kill itself
>>726119132>A lot of these let you turn off ATB though.>Also ATB determines the turns you take...You don't truly "turn off ATB" though. If you leave it on a character, enemies will still take their actions. It will simply "pause" the active time if you specifically go into certain menus, but if you don't do it quickly enough, enemies keep going.ATB determines when you can take your action, not your turn (unless your calling any action you take in any game "a turn", then by that very narrow definition you can be right I suppose)It's not turn-based.
>>726119460Genuine retards consistently mistaking Kepler Interactie and Sandfall Interactive is one of the funniest things I've seen on /v/ to happen so much.
>>726118853>loved undertale when I played it back in 2015 tooSo it's like 1 game in 10 years?
>>726119928>mistakingAre you retarded
>>726118853>not realAbsolute retardation.
>>726119994Dumb jeet.
>>726116270When people say "Chrono Trigger has an amazing story" they mean that it's engaging, well written and emotional. A story in order to be good doesn't need to be necessarily philosophical or psychologically deep, that's a different kind of "good story". CT isn't worse than E33, it's just different.
For crimes against humanity I banish all E33 schizos to an Indian supermarket
>>726114029I'm going to remember this during the next hundred anti-E33 threads with he exact same posts in them.
shilling started again now that goty is coming soonnobody talked about this game for months not a aingle thread now 10 threads an hour about a trashy asset flip slop game nobody enjoyed
>>726120120>I'm going to have to remind people Fixed
>/v/ is incapable of enjoying anything without finding a reason to shit on itsuch a joyless board
>>726086019I do think E33 is absolutely splendid. I love it, and (sadly) it's easily one of the best RPGs of the decade. And while E33 remains a great game in its own right. It's nowhere near as remarkable as many people make it out to be. For all of the game's merits, the game is not very unique whatsoever. Its greatest strength is merely copying what worked from quality golden age RPGs from decades ago. Is it because a good chunk of the people who played it are too young to have even played the classics of old? I do really hope E33 will help to inspire a return to form for RPGs. But it's not very innovative.
>>726120229>return to formThere it is
>>726120174it's not shilling here you loon, it's the turn-based rpg players with an axe to grind using this as their vehicle yet again
>>726120174>nobody talked about this game for months not a aingle threadIt's been getting threads every single day for months you lying fag. What the fuck are you doing trying to rewrite history this soon you negroid
>>726120207This. E33 is good. People acting as it's better than JRPGs because those are "cringe" are ignorants and ethnocentrics. /thread
>>726086019>>726086441the same stupid niggers who think E33 is some groundbreaking masterpiece are the same people who literally have never played a real video game but then played astro bot and were completely floored by the most basic, uninventive and least challenging platformer of all time. they're children and 40 year olds who have never played other games. they literally don't know any better.
Persona, Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest makes me wanna lobotimize myself when playing.It's almost impressive that the writing is more braindead than the gameplay systems.No characters can put 2 and 2 together in any context(except for the "smart" one who can only do it after it's too late). Every piece of new information is spoonfed 5 times in a row and every character is shocked each time. The themes are all variations of "Thing nearly exclusively considered bad by society are (get this) BAD".E33 is fine. It's good due to what it's compared against.
>>726120329no it hasn't bro ive been here every day stop lying and cope about this game dropping off hard literally nobody talked about this game for months it was utterly forgotten. youre just here to shill for goty. its trash and slop
>>726120329There's been nothing but dead threads during SEA hours for months
>>726120568fr fr lil bro no cap :skull_emoji:
>>726120174>nobody talked about this game for monthsYeah aside from the multiple threads every single day. Again see what I mean? They just make shit up even though people who played the game or actually wasted their time here know that's not true. Anti-E33 shills are nothing but angry weaboos filled with lies.
>>726120329>It's been getting threads every single day for months you lying fag.At this point, I think it's just a goto meme from the shitposters to pretend "there are zero threads, I personally haven'ts een a single one", loosely based on the actual schizo posters who used to always do that kind of posting (usually around stuff like Final Fantasy or Baldur's Gate 3 as of recently, but other games have seen those schizos)
>>726120301What of it? The game is damn near objectively rather classic in its design in that it much more resembles games from 20-30 years ago than games from the last decade. It's a return to form. The key to its entire success is copying old classics. That's called a return to form.
>>726120229if it had an anime aesthetic and waifus /v/ would shit and cum from happiness
>>726120568>copehaha he said the thing xDD he must truly be one of us guise he said the cope word next he's gonna say slop that'll really get me to believe him.
>>726120618>there hasn't been a single thread!!!>o-okay there were many threads b-but t-they were dead!
>>726120851that would have been nice
>>726120851Yeah, and normalfags would have avoided it like the plague
>>726120961I have anime fatigue, I lived long enough to see it shitified
>>726090256The definition of qualityslop. Copy/polish what is already there instead of innovating and iterating. Qualityslop are polished games that don't bring anything new to the table.
>>726120802>The key to its entire success is copying old classicsThis is what posters here don't getE33 is good because it's copying what made JRPGs good 15-20 years agoFFX storyResonance of Fate gameplayPersona-like party systemNOT highschooler charactersAnd it takes risks in the narrative
>>726103842preach
>>726121115not every game needs new groundbreaking mechanics to be fun
This kills the E33 jeet.
>>726118179>CREATE YOU'RE OWN CHARACTER!!!Yes, I will actually bother playing the game now
>>726121259Hades II is troonified to all hell
>>726121115>qualityslopWHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN
>>726121115So by your definition, nearly every game in existence is trash because it didn't invent a brand new mechanic nobody ever thought of before? These "people" angry at E33 make less and less sense. I'm convinced when it wins GOTY they're going to break something in their room despite them screaming at the top of their lungs they don't care about the award.
It's been extremely fun watching jeets try to conjure up a SINGLE angle to attack E33 all these months.Yet they couldn't think of even one good point.So all they have is screeching about "shills" autistically and stirring up forced rivalries.>Nooo stop discussing video game on video games board!!! Also this game I didn't play is worse than that other game I didn't play!!!E33 was 9/11 for India.
>>726086019E33 is just XC3 but worse but the people who don't like animu or bingtendo would never know so that's fair
>RPGfaggots eating good every single year>>every thread is a piss contestYou people don't deserve it.
>>726121368>E33 was 9/11 for IndiaNice try, Patel.
>>726086019>expedition 33rd degree freemasonno thanks
>>726121458I want a Gold-Box style CRPG that's more open-ended/generic adventuring and questing-based. Doesn't need to be 1e AD&D at all, perfectly fine with something custom or even 5e.
>>726121334He doesn't know. He's a shill and his trainer told him making posts with the word slop in them will make him look less foreign.
>>726121115This. Every 3d Mario except 64 and Galaxy are qualityslop.
>>726121586All I can offer you is new Pokemon game (remake).
>>726116558Persona 3-5 have the cringiest tropey JRPG tier interactions possible though with characters doing overexaggerated poses and dialogue
I wish for a new "Mass Effect" style game, I will sell my balls for an amazing, long top tier sci-fi space rpg>b-b-but 40k games...sorry I grew out of that boring shit with stale as fuck memes and fandom
>>726121709...can it at least be a Pokemon with good performance and production values this time?
>>726121727>Persona 3-5 have the cringiest tropey JRPG tier interactions possible though with characters doing overexaggerated poses and dialogue>he says that with shit like Falcom games on the marketAnother proof you don't play games and just seethe because Atlus games are better. Stay mad, brownoid.
>>726121287You are part of the problem
>>726121798I want Xenosaga remasters
>>726121798Outer Worlds 2
>>726122004I want Xenogears episode VI...
Did you retards suddenly forget what you're here for? Taking an hour off everybody's clock for this. You are paid to shit on this game, stop talking about anything else if you want your pay this week.
>>72612182430fps with dips and 720p tops.
>Did you retards suddenly forget what you're here for? Taking an hour off everybody's clock for this. You are paid to shit on this game, stop talking about anything else if you want your pay this week.
>>726121957Yes, Atlus games are better than shitsona
Southeast Asians trying to lie to make slop 33 look better yet again I see Can expect dozens of these threads now thay its game awards season
>>726122591That's more like it but your pay for this hour will still be withheld. Now tell them how they've never played a video game before. You didn't use the word slop though, the memo says every post should use the word slop at least once.
>>726122706>You didn't use the word slop thoughNigga you best learn how to fucking read if you're gonna be sarcastic
The thing is that E33 is a perfectly fine game, the issue is that since it’s not Japanese looking or being set in a highschool, this attracted a horde of smoothbrains that hate Japan glazing it, despite it being anime as hell plotwise
>>726122749Don't talk back to your manager. Get back to work. You still didn't say slop. That's a full day off your paycheck. I'm taking your free lunch away if you post anything other than "shilled game, absolute slop, only a jeet could like this"
>>726122883This allowed western journalists and devs to praise a JRPG without praising a Japanese dev.For whatever reason, western devs and journalists seem to have no issue being shitty to eastern devs/games. Look at how they treated Elden Ring. They said shit about it that they'd never say about a western dev.For all the dumb shit Geoff K says and does, he's one of the few that actually praises eastern games (sometimes a bit too much with Kojima, though)
>>726122991>You still didn't say slop>>726122591>slop 33
>>726122749>nigga You don't belong here.
>>726093754>level design is barely thereThat would be like saying that FFVI levels design is barely there, or Lost Odysseys is barely there>no interesting worlbuilding whasoever, no towns, unique locations, cultures, mythology or anything at allYou have Lumiere, the Gestral town, the train station with the Grandis and the many areas that reflect the psyches of Verso, Aline and Renoir. Also, you got all the logs you can find about the previous expeditions which expand on the life on Lumiére.>no interesting side quests or npcsYou've got an entire dungeon for a side quest to get weapons for Monoco, Lunes quest to find her parents remains, Renoirs drsfts, the Beast, the minigames... All optional btw>gameplay is completely barebones and the dodge timing is so generous that is almost impossible to get hitLiterally lies, pictos are specifically made to create whatever synergy you plesse with your characters. And if dodging got easy get to parrying>act 3 side content is so fucking unbalanced that your only strategy is building a maelle nuke or equivalentSounds like a (you) problem and your inability to make use of the tools at your disposal>characters are completely underdeveloped except for maelle an versoSounds like you didn't engage in any conversation with the characters>the starting premise gets completely dropped and actively shat on in the ending to the point that you could cut act 1 and nothing would change??? The entire ending relies on the people of Lumiere and their sacrifices mattering to Maelle wtf are you on>the nature of the lumiere people as real or not it's not explored in the game at allThey are real to Maelle and thats what matters
>>726123165>FFVI levels design is barely there, or Lost Odysseys is barely thereYes.
>>726122015are you recommending me THIS unironically?
>>726123315>unironicallyNope
>>726123165I appreciate you putting in the effort but I hate to break it to you that other anon didn't even play the game. He gets things wrong about the story only somebody who didn't play could. Most of his criticisms are just "its bad."
>>726123695Truke
>>726123165I post here for fun and I had fun disproving the arguments. Also yoj also read it anon, so the effort was worth it
>>726086441final fantasy X is e33 but better in pretty much every way and i say this as someone who likes e33 and thinks its goty. Honestly I think the visuals in e33 can feel asset storish at times so its not as good as I'd like. game would have looked better if it actually looked like a painting
>>726124273>yoj
>>726123165I mean everyone is significantly less developed than maelle and verso tbf
>>726121162>not every game needs new groundbreaking mechanics to be funDidn't say they did. It's a good game, but not the next coming of Christ.>>726121334>WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEANI explained it. It's something that is high quality, yet derivative. Stellar Blade is another good example. It has tight mechanics, attractive characters, excellent music, and graphics. But it stole its mechanics from Sekiro and sexy girl was already a thing in games. And this is coming from someone who loves Stellar Blade.>>726121337>So by your definition, nearly every game in existence is trash because it didn't invent a brand new mechanicNope. A qualityslop game is good by definition. It is high quality, yet unoriginal.
>>726125207This anon should kill himself, he knows it but won't do it because he's selfish.
