>every other city builder>want to build a road>build a road>workers and resources>want to build a road>plan the road>bring gravel by the truckload to the road>bring equipment or laborers to the road>spend time constructing the road>if you want a paved road:>bring a paver to the road>bring asphalt by the truckload to the road>bring a roller to the road>if you want a road with lights>bring a truck with electrical components to the paved roadWhat is it about Eastern European developers that bring out such soul
so what you're saying is that left leaning people make better games?
>>726096003Developers have stated that they understand a communist utopia is only achievable in a video game
>>726095869>bring gravel by the truckload to the roadwhy are we like this
>>726095869Eastern Europe has no soul and it's a continuing trend after 1989, even post all of the phoney KGB intiated revolutions for 'democracy'.
>>726095869Shame the most rudimentary shit, like building collision and placement, is COMPLETELY FUCKED. Actual production chains also still feel like a placeholder. You make bricks out of... coal. Just coal, huh. Also, I appreciate the ambition, but making a game this fucking frontloaded in terms of challenge and decision making intensity isn't exactly great game design. 99% of the challenge in this game is the first 4 hours you spend doing nothing but setup.Despite all of those complaints, this game kinda ruined other citybuilders for me. It's really hard to go back to something like City Skylines after you got over the initial hump and start to get a flow going in WS.>>726096003>so what you're saying is that left leaning people make better games?>Post-soviet block techincally educated young people>Left leaningI don't think you understand political landscape of contemporary Europe very well. Let me guss: you are murrican, aren't you?
>>726096375There are a lot of abstractions that I wish weren't there, such as the workers not needing transport home or the timescales being so different for everything. Also if trains were able to run-around or do something to avoid flipping in placeLike you said it has ruined other games for me
>>726095869Europeans love economics, trading and resources for some reasonThis can be especially seen if you play euro board games
>>726095869sounds like escapism.
>>726096825You're on the video games board
>>726095869Da tovarish, a video game of a dead misanthropic jewish ideology brings out so much le SOVL! Viva la revolucion and fuck white people!
>>726095869How the fuck do you have 4.5k hours and zero achievements you marketing cunt?
>>726096995All those hours were on a save from before the game launched, dipass
>>726095869This is how it should be. Games where you can just plop a bunch of shit down with no or little resources aren't fun. Sure I built a house but the house means more when I had to lay the foundation and harvest the wood.
>>726096708>There are a lot of abstractions that I wish weren't there, such as the workers not needing transport homeYeah. That, and sheer jank of it. Wrangling buildings into possition can be an INSANE pain in the ass in the game. Like, you actually spend like 15 minutes just placing basic layout down because of constant collision problems, incorrectly connecting nodes and shit like that.But... there just isn't ANYTHING like it. The depth of the simulation, the level of control, even the settings. I feel like this is the only recent city builder that gives me actual feeling of creating an organic story, while everything else is just arranging models and inventing backstory purely in your head.I often find myself absolutely hating the game, but like an abused spouse... I always come back to it.
I recently read about the air campaign against Vietnam and now I'd kill for a mod to simulate USA jets coming over to fuck up my infrastructure with AA defenses to make them fucking stop.At least there's a decent amount of North Vietnam geography and building mods.
>>726095869>played for 4000 hours>still no cheevoskwab
>>726096375>I don't think you understand political landscape of contemporary EuropeYou probably don't either. And these books are still the too tame version I would say about contemporary europeans politicians bizarre connections with the communist party, at least in Poland.
>>726098007>at least in Poland.Yeah, but how many educated young people actually fall for it? I live next door, Czech rep, a lot of my friends and colleagues are from Poland, and most of them are even more harshly inoculated against commies than we are, and trust me, we are. People who have highschool+ education are fundamentally skeptical towards left-wing shit, hell we recently declared propagation of communist ideology equally as illegal as propagation of Nazi ideology. Slovakia is STRAIGHT UP fascist. And further to the east - I've seen a lot of genuine, hard-boiled commies among intellectuals from former Jugoslavia and Bulgaria over my life, but ALL of them 50+ years old, people who finished their college under the previous regime. Post-collapse people... basically no one. Again, I'm speaking about people with tertiary education, social and humanity studies most commonly.It is absolutely incomparable to the sheer amount of blind indotrination you will see at every fucking corner in the west.If you see a college-educated eastern european age 20-35, you have in my experience, about 80% chance he'll be centrist and/or straight up anti-commie.When you deal with people from the other side of the iron curtain, the odds are 90% that they will be a bigoted leftie. And I'm not really speaking out of my ass here, it's something I genuinely study.
>>726098672>Slovakia is STRAIGHT UP fascistyou mean sucking Russia cock.
>>726098759>you mean sucking Russia cock.Yeah, the two are not mutually exclusive. But... with that we should probably go back to discussing games. I'm realizing I'm becoming like the pol-tard morons myself at this point.For the record, WH devs made this clear repeatedly and unambigously: They find communism to be a fascinating subject for a videogame. Central planning makes for a great gameplay challenge, and the commie block shithole aesthetics eliminates issues with things like asset repetition, which is perfect when you are making ambitous city builder in a small team. Where as in CS, the fact that you see the same building model every three units makes the thing feel artifical, in context of a commie block economy, it's actually exactly what you should see. All of it is gameplay-motivated. It has nothing to do with their political views. That is all that people need to know.
give the people suburbs
>>726096981Not an argument
>>726098672I would argue that reading these books will give you the most crucial understanding of why the third polish republic is an alien communist creation and completely faked independence from Moscow at that time during the fall of the Soviet Union. That it is practically a succession of the Polish Peoples Republic. You can call it schizophrenic if you want but I uploaded it and you can read it to at least understand the case. If you know how to read polish. The fraud of the round table agreements and neo-solidarity https://files.catbox.moe/qtozn4.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/39w8bf.pdfMore crucial to know now considering the current state of Russia's poor relations with the west and their claims of NATO expansion and such.
>>726099670>If you know how to read polish.Unfortunately, not nearly well enough to read primary sources, as much as I would genuinely really love to. I don't suppose english or czech or german versions exist, huh?Subjects of eastern-european national and political identities are literally my bread and butter, so even if I did end up finding it to be far far-fetched (and I will admit from your description I'm... not entirely convinced), it's still a manifestation of a trend, valuable point of view in one way or another. But as I said, my polish is... absolutely not good enough for this. I can't read what would be academically valuable subject by... guessing what the sentence means 70% of the time.I still saved both files and appreciate you uploading it, seriously. I'll try to ask my polish colleagues if they don't know a way to get into it.
>>726099521Now that's a dystopia.
>>726098672So...what happens after Putin dies?
>>726096981>video game of a dead misanthropic jewish ideologythis isnt a thread about christianity
>>726095869>spend dozens of hours starting and restarting towns in order to figure out how to make a design of a steel mill that actually works>it doesn't matter because after a single fucking trainload the price basically halves and your economy goes redThis is ridiculous
Eastern European games tend to be complex autism simulators of one kind or another, with a decent amount of jank. Even CDPR with The Witcher fell into this back in the day - both its combat system that wasn't either real time nor menu based , the alchemy system and potion use, and some of its branching story stuff was great but somewhat obtuse compared to much of what was more commonplace in Western game and had some jank to go with it until patches fixed a lot of the stuff with Enhanced Edition Director's Cut. Almost any strategy, RPG, sim/city builder will have pages and pages of stats and data, things to toggle, and the like. Beside's OP's game see something like>Highfleet Which has excellent aesthetics and great depth/complexity>Crisis in the Kremlin, or anything by NostalgamesThey have a ton of quasi-realistic alt-history games where you can play as the Soviet Union, Mao's China, or East/West Germany and its pretty well researched and very in depth, but some translation jank .
>>726100161>So...what happens after Putin dies?Even I'm not falling for that trap.
>>726096003you are illiterate
>>726095869You want to know why Eastern European developers are so good at developing streets in their games?Because their actual roads are even worse than American roads.
>>726095869its cool in theory but in reality you're dying of old age waiting for fucking anything to be built. and the way the game simulates pops for schools, grocery stores, medical centres n that is really shit. You basically need to build one of each of those things for every commieblock you plop down. Then the building's footprints are so FUCKING HUGE that you cant even place shit down efficiently. Oh also a church/religion need but you cant place any churches down. Riperoni :)Lastly, its secretly a train game with autistic unfun city building slapped on. Fucking awful game, one of the few games that I pirated and still want my money back.
>>726099902nta but isn't Czech reasonably close to Polish with some degree of understanding, like Russian to Serbian?>t. Studied Russian
>>726100875>nta but isn't Czech reasonably close to Polish with some degree of understanding, like Russian to Serbian?No, unfortunately it isn't. Or maybe I have a very bad ear for languages. They are similar enough that you can get through very basic interactions, but reading, an (hopefully) academically inclined text. That is a whole new level. Czechs and slovaks can generally understand each other without any issues, those two langagues are very similar. But Polish and Czech... no. WAAAAAY too much german influence on Czech to be compatible.
>>726100875NTA but you can easily understand like 60% of something said in Polish. The thing is, nuance is all but lost. And the possibility of missing a point by quite a wide margin is not really compatible with anything more complex than small talkPoland is still a different country, with different history, manners and with different language context
>>726101240Weirdly enough I feel like poles understand Czech more than Czechs understand Polish. I do know for a FACT that both parties find the other language very funny.
>>726100454Was worth pouring a cup of /pol/onium tea anyways.
>>726101240>Russian to Serbian?Not mutually understandable at all, less tahn for example the Russian/Polish pair>PolandThe Poland
>>726101381>Weirdly enough I feel like poles understand Czech more than Czechs understand Polish. Honestly, it's a pretty weird, but still quite common phenomenon. Every other Slav understands Czech better that Czechs other Slavic languages. Same goes with Slovaks, having absolutely no problem understanding Czech, while younger generations (and it's especially the case for people from the western parts of the country) tend to struggle with understanding anything Slavic, even Slovak
>>726101505>Was worth pouring a cup of /pol/onium tea anyways.That made me genuinely laugh. That does not happen that often around here.
>>7260986721. why do you assume westerners will be communist when gen z in most western countries are slowly turning right2. yes everyone knows young eastern europeans are anti-old left but are they also anti-new left? weren't both conservatism and liberalism the driving forces behind the iron curtain being pulled down? the same logic could be applied to say "eastern euros are anti right wing because they hate fascism"
>>726099521looks like one of these shitholes in ukraine where tank battles took place
>>726101615>Every other Slav understands Czech better that Czechs other Slavic languagesI wonder if this because of some kind of pragmatic, linguistic reason, or if it may be more related to just how fucking conceited Czechs tend to be towards every other slav nation.I mean "slavs hate other slavs" is a well worn half-meme-half-solid truth, but Czechs have a uniquely snobby attitude towards the rest of the Slavic cultures. Half of slavic nations HATE the other half, but Czechs generally don't even care about other slavs enough to hate them. Except for Russians, obviously. Which may also manifest in that problem.
>>726101923>1. why do you assume westerners will be communist when gen z in most western countries are slowly turning rightBecause I deal with them on a very frequent basis, and while there has been a marked shift in the last 5 or so years, with the taboo on criticism toward left fading, the fundamental source of the problem - the academia, is absolutely as bad, if not worse than it ever was.As I said, I'm specifically talking about tertiary educated and... Fuck me.No, you got me, now: Fuck off. Polshit is polshit, where on the field you stand, and you are turning me into a poltard. Stop fucking enabling me!
>>726095869I enjoyed what I played of this but got really overwhelmed when the little tutorial city finished and the map opened up.I may come back to it one day but I found the idea of manually running sewerage and clean water and everything in between really daunting.
What this tells me is that there's space for an n tier super civil engineering video game.>>726101757You should enjoy yourself more. Video games are supposed to be fun. I may be a big fat goofy american with two cheesburgers and zero pants right now, but if you're not having fun, what's the point?
>>726096003East is to the right though have you never seen a map?
>>726101974I should've note that there's also a big division when it comes to this inter-Slavic comprehension capability the moment you get to the eastern parts of Czech Republic, to Moravia or Silesia. The dialects and people there are definitely more compatible in this regard, some of the dialects in question being straight up almost exactly half-Czech and half-Slovak or half-Czech and half-Polish, and, funnily enough, half-Czech and half-German (especially in vocabulary use, not so much in grammar)Anyway, I'd say it's a mix of reasons. Some historical (with some going back roughly a thousand years and some way more recent like the dissolution of Czechoslovakia), some societal, some dialectal, some political and some cultural. I wouldn't necessarily say it's some kind of inherent propensity of the language itselfVideo games
>>726102090YOU VILL DISCUSS ZE BOLITIKScan you give me qrd on left vs right in eastern europe? i vaguely know right wing is nationalist and socially conservative, left wing is liberal and globalist, and socialists/communists is kill but not on further details-for example is more welfare commonly associated with the left or right?(i heard trade unions brought down communism in poland), or collaborating with EU, conscription, car dependency, etc. are the liberals very similar to american democrats?
>>726102676I'll take the hit on this one. Right and left are DESCRIPTIVE. not PRESCRIPTIVE.>are the liberals very similar to american democrats?LOL. Nobody's similar to the american democrats.
>>726102550>Video games are supposed to be fun.Videogames are fun./v/ is not videogames. /v/ used to be fun, but rarely is nowdays. I feel like people making an actual joke (you know, like you did, not "I posted a meme again!) is a rare sight, and so much of /v/ as just become so boring. >>726102671>half-Czech and half-GermanThe endlessly self-depricating Czech in my wants to say: that is a tautology. Czech already is half-german.But you are right about the regional accents and just comprehension being significantly better, but that may be just purely a matter of exposure. I'm fucking Prague born and raised, meaning hearing polish was about as common to me as seeing a black man outside of Václavák. Nowdays I live in a smaller town much closer to the border, and half of my colleagues speak polish flawlessly... because they literally would go over the borders and do shopping on the polish side EVERY week. That gets you familiar with the language. And the conceited attitude towards our neighbors tends to be also very much directly proportional to how close to one of the two big cities you were born and raised.But you are very obviously right, it's not a single factor thing. Being interested in the ways east-europeans like to self-define, it's just the cultural patterns that draw my attention particularly strongly.
>>726095869>not starting with dirt roadsDid it to yourself.
>>726102676>can you give me qrd on left vs right in eastern europe?It's obviously going to differ a lot from country to country, but in general... it's very hard to be optimistic and naive about communism's claim to authority when you grow up very close to the the regime change. It's not like the legacy of communist regime disappears the moment the party falls. I was born 3 years before the Velvet Revolution, and while I don't have direct memories of life before that, but I do remember the 90's very vividly. Meaning 2/3rds of all TV shows, books, movies, hell, TEACHERS when I was in elementary - all of them are still products of the past regime, while western media and all the advantages of the new regime only gradually creep in.Meaning you get the opportunity to compare just how FUCKING AWFUL and BLEAK shit used to be. How fundamentally disfunctional the regime was on most basic human level. Not to mention if you were lucky enough to be born to educated parents, they'll likely have horror stories for YEARS to share about abuse or absurdity or straight up crimes of the regime.All of that INEVITABLY makes you suspicious of the claims that it TOTALLY WORKS BRO.People with no direct experience of what kind of society communism fostered are absurdly naive to me, and people of my generation. It is not possible to be that naive when you have first-hand experience with what communism was doing to people, culture, even fucking landscape. That, I think, is rather universal to most former soviet block countries and young people born close to 89 - who then in return help to temper naivité of the next generations and the caution or downright cynicism remains as kind of a shared immunity to left-wing BULLSHIT.It does not help you from falling for other forms of ideological bullshit though. Just... you can't take Marx seriously anymore after what you see and hear at every step around you.
>>726103438Feel free to take that joke, turn it into a meme and run it into the fucking ground. Just for entertainments sake.
>>726103891yeah but everyone knows communism kill in EE(except russia? i think) but i was asking about current day politics, what are the major factions atm and what are their views, voter base and stances on certain issues
>>726096041This might be true because in a video game you dont have zionists or the United States and it's pseudo capitalist democracy to stall and sabotage you.
>>726099521I physically shuddered at the thought of constructing the infrastructure and fuel necessary for this shit smear to just barely function. This game really lets you get into the role of a soviet central planner losing the bright eyed optimism as the years go by.First republic: Yeah! My republic is gonna be a true utopia where every need of my citizens is met thanks to efficient planning and high quality buiding, all will be equalTenth republic: import third worlders into (permanent) temporary rural housing without heating to work in my new rail tunnel. And then have them build heated blocks they won't be allowed to live in because they're for educated soviets that will be packed so tight, the windows will never experience natural light because it would be a shame to only fit tgis many blocks apartments i connected the infrastructure
>>726104507>but i was asking about current day politicsOh that is a far, far bigger problem, one that I barely dare to speak about exclusively in context of my own country. I can tell you where Czech republic is now politically: nowhere. One of the many byproducts of people being innoculated to bullshit is that people don't really trust anything or anyone here.Czech politics are effectively divided into two sides: Populists on one side, liberals on the other. Don't confuse liberals with "leftists" by the way, we still use that word in it's actual meaning here. Reality is: it does not matter who is who. The concepts of left and right are entirely meaningless. The program of the "liberals" is literally just "be pro-EU, be uh, like, modern and like not promising too much free money and something like that?" while the populist don¨t have a program. They literally just say what people want to hear. Right now people are frustrated with EU, so they are super anti-EU. Literally 6 years ago they were the most EU-compliant government we ever had. It does not matter.Populist promise free shit for everyone and not-what-you-currently-don't want, liberals say promise not completely free shit and vaguely "west is good, modern is good, Russia always bad". That is the extend of the political programs. Then you have reality. Everyone is absolutely equally incompetent. On purpose, actually. The two sides exchange power basically each election cycle, and the only reason anyone has for voting anybody boils don't to "well the last goverment was SHIT, lets vote the other party because they CAN'T BE WORSE, right?!"And they can. Only political reasoning relevant here is just... what is the least evil of these obviously all evil and bad options. Meaning: the party that didn't rule last cycle, usually.We had seen a gradual rise of far right and far left parties, which are both identical and both entirely on Russia's payroll. But they aren't ideologically commited to anything.
>it's been 10 fucking years comrade>we will never escape the feudal system of the past>we will only escape masters>and find ourselves in the lands>of new masters
>>726105217Reminded me of the old joke during the communist era>We will achieve the goals of our five-year plan even if it takes us ten years!
>>726105095that's not really a good response, too emotional, even populist movements can be analysed. the current US politics are a clusterfuck populism but the basics still can be described easily: there are two large parties, democrats and republicans. republicans depend on the charismatic(?) leadership of donald trump. while he changes his opinions very often, MAGA aims to lower taxes, raise tariffs, reindustrialise, remove DEI programs, and reduce immigration, and demand compensations from america's allies. main voterbase are rural areas and the rust belt. two notable factions within the party are corporate liberatarian "techbros" and christian nationalist "groypers"
Might need to get back into this game. Last time I played I stalled after trying and failing to make a custom map that was a replica of the Island of Sodor from Thomas the Tank Engine.
>>726106818My man, Czech politics can be summarised in two words: anal alpinism, doesn't matter which party, and it's either overt or covert. It all boils down to being a bitch for Brussels and Germany, because it's all about gibs. There's absolutely no spine whatsoever. Big words that end up being completely hollow, or even better yet, completely subversive and malicious each and every time
>>726106897Based
Did they finally improve how road construction works or will my cities still be full of tiny road segments that make any upgrades a nightmare.
> all of them starve to death before the project is even off the ground because you forgot to bring food to the work site10/10 for historical accuracy
>>726108000>be extremely incompetent leader who removes all luxury for workers and demands unpaid overtime from everyone>no civil warIt's VERY historically accurate.
>>726106818>even populist movements can be analysedI mean yes, but A) I already ran out of space and I didn't cover the basics accurately, and B) while you can analyze the populists to your hearts content, you won't come up with anything more than this. There are some really fun quirks to the two outlying, "far right" and "far left" parties that only recently became relevant, they are fun to actually analyze, but ultimately, it also is actually incredibly simple: they are both Russian proxies, their sole actual program is becoming a Russian vassal again.But they have really funny absurd details to the surface and marketing - one going all out on evil mudslimes raping our women and the other going all out on Communist era nostalgia: but the fact that their actual political progrom is identical (leave EU, return to papa Putin) speaks for itself. And no, the same description you use to outline US politics does not work here. US politics are based around each party having a program and a defined traditional voter-base.And that is just not a thing in Czech republic. I understand it may be hard to believe, but it's the situation. Six years ago the populists were entirely selling themselves on how their founder is a extremely succesful businessman and a billionare (sounds familiar?), and how he'll govern the country like he governed his company: lean, effective, capitalist: you can't have a country spending more than it makes!"And then he proceeded to just straight up bribe elderly people, setting in the most socially wasteful program in our history, and also being UNBELIVABLY servile to the EU, like: like, he was the biggest Green Deal bootlicker ever.So then the liberals came and said "see how full of shit they were? we were flawed but these guys are worst!"So they got voted in. By the same people who voted populist before.And then proved that in fact: they are worse. Right now, the only identity of the populist is "Fuck EU" but... see above.
>>726108315If you want a fun story how utterly absurd Czech politics are, consider this:The recent victory of the populist was build on the back of the campaign that had single point:Fuck EU, Fuck green deal. These Green Deal laws are the worst thing that has happened to us since 1968, it's a travesty, it's an existential threat. We cannot abide this, we need to openly defy the European commission, no matter the cost!Which - you know, is ENTIRELY accurate, and reasonable. Except for one detail.Every single law he now declares an existential threat to our country, and that needs to be defied... has his own signature on it.Every single one was eagerly signed by him 5 years ago. The thing he explicitly declares to be the worst thing to have happened to us in 70 years is... him. All his doing. He signed every single thing the commission asked him without even mentioning it to the public. So yeah. That is how things are here.
>>726110084will "he" be given a super sonic pink slip in the neat future do you think?
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>>726111598>will "he" be given a super sonic pink slip in the neat future do you think?I do not get that reference. I assume it's a reference, right?
>>726111675i realize your esl so im gonna explain it even if it will diminish the joke by referencing three instances of american political assassination this yearBULLETS from rifles typically fly at 800 m/s (2,600 ft/s) to over 1,200 m/s (3,900 ft/s), also known as super sonic speeda PINK SLIP is a thing given to an employee that informs them of their dismissal from their position in the companyusing those two definitions and relating them to this case, the "he" you mentioned would be the "employee" (civil servant) who would be "dismissed" from his job with a "pink slip" "delivered" at supersonic speedsin other words i was asking if "he" might be assassinated for being a fucking foreign sock puppet
>>726112109>i realize your esl so im gonna explain it even if it will diminish the joke by referencing three instances of american political assassination this yearOh. Sorry, that is US political culture, I'm sorry but I had no idea "super-sonic" would refer to just a bullet. I was wondering if its some kind of reference to Kinzhal missiles, because you know, those were kind of a very hot topic around our side of the pond.it's a good joke, just wasted on someone who could not get it. And my reply is: no. It may be pretty clear from the utter marrasm I described, but we don't have a culture or history of political violence here. That would kinda require a culture of political ANYTHING and as you've heard that isn't a thing here.The truth is, we are like a month after the populists took over and they have already backed out of every single thing they talked about in their campaign.It's funny because the leader of the populist movement, Babiš, is very outspokenly both personal and political ally of Fico and Orban: the two major eastern-european countries that both openly just stopped pretending they are democratic, but also openly support Russia.So this Babiš guy came out as outspoken close friend, and EU parlament faction ally of them, and everyone was freaking out about, everyone was going "Jesus Christ, he is going to fucking do it, he'll attack the foundations of the constitution, he's selling us to the Ruskies in exchange for an option to be president-for-life and have sole control over media like those two did!"But even that hysteria turned out to be entirely false. He already backtracked all of that too, already isn't speaking those guys either. He can't be even arsed to try and sell us out.That is how fucking dumb everything here is politics-wise.
>>726096754consequence of having 20+ countries within a few hours' drive of each other. constantly having to deal with rival governments and empires and borders, building up a long legacy of international trade organisations and diplomacy matters.
>>726111598That's not how we do things here. But I do propose return to tradition, to picrelIt's a social event that everyone can enjoy in the public and a one that celebrates our history, heritage and culture of turning cunts into paste
>>726096981you don't have to run it in a communist way. You can go open-market and trade with the west, but the Kremlin will piss and moan about it and stop subsidising you.
>>726101923the zoomer right are collectivists first and foremost, which politically means they're NazBols most of the time. they're socially right, economically left.
I prefer more abstract games.Cities Skylines, for example, would be much better, in my opinion, if traffic were abstract instead of that pathetic attempt to simulate it. Because the game simulates traffic, and because it is impossible to make an accurate simulation, what we have is a game where you are less planning with the mind of an urban planner, and more planning with the mind of a player exploiting the rules of the game.I haven't played Soviet, but I've seen several cities that players have built, and in my humble opinion, they seem more like small-scale projects, like the things engineers build for mining large areas, where they build housing and such. Yeah, I know that's the point of the game, but because there isn't as much abstraction as necessary, the result is that the city looks as limited as the simulation can be.
>>726096003Ouch!
>>726113168>socially right, economically leftcan such a thing even exist without imploding?id much rather the reverse
>>726113573Korea hasn't imploded yet
>>726112835so he's the east european genderswapped version of meloni>>726113168do they get accused of being similar to communists?>>726113573if id'd be honest i'd rather have socialists over liberals
>>726096217SAAAAAAAR
>even post all of the phoney KGB intiated revolutions for 'democracy'.death sentence for retards
