The multiplayer of KZ2 mogged Halo and Cod.
true & ps3 pilled
desu, I don't remember much. I know that I enjoyed it greatly, I know that everything had weight and physicality to it. And I recall that some class combos were fucking broken.
>>726104014It's funny how they made the Helghast unintentionally more popular than the ISA.
>Better than HaloImpossible, console multiplayer peaked with Halo 3. Sorry.
>>726105114They are literally the good guys.
>>726104014It did no such thing, but it was okay in parts. The distinct memory I have of this game in MP was that it was best to just shoot from the hip and let the magical bullets do its thing, instead of switching to aiming mode (unless you're a sniper).Salamun Market (KZ2 OG) is probably my favorite MP map of all time.
I'm one of the people who will go to bat for Killzone 2 and 3(fuck Shadowfall) but the multiplayer most definitely did not mog Halo>>726105235They actually are in the Vita game, you get betrayed by the ISA and have to join the Helghast
>>726105264>>726104401 here, as I said I recall some stuff being really broken. And like you mentioned, hip firing the standard m4 like rilfe was one of them and I think picking the soldier/infantry class + healing was another.
>>726104014No but I did enjoy it a whole lot. It will never be looked at as fondly though since it had a lot of input lag and sluggishness in its animations that was sold as heavy weighted soldier feel by the community.However the games multiplayer was great imo and I enjoyed warzone having multiple game types in one match. But I think they fucked up by not forcing matches to end after a side would get 4 wins. There is a lot of things they could have did to improve the series further for more mainstream appeal but they never truly capitalized on that.
>>726105114I don't know how they didn't foresee this. The ISA is just another boring human faction while the Helghast have the cool appearance. They knew storm troopers and Vader from Star Wars were popular. I am sure they knew of Jin Roh. Either way, it was obvious that the menacing looking space guys with red glowing eyes would be perceived as cool. Guerilla just sucks creatively is the problem. Its a good company that can make great looking games but they needed serious help on things other than engine and making a game look good.
>>726105264>just shoot from the hipthis + crouching as it reduced the bullet spread, iron sights was only useful for long distance shots.What I always loved about the game is that every bullet was a projectile and you had to account for bullet travel with every weapon, none of that hitscan bullshit CoD always had
>>726105114I don't think it's unintentional. Helghast are front and center in all things Killzone.Killzone opens with this. And your supposed to believe your the good guy fighting against them?:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNAnplKWNrc
>>7261051834 is the only good halo so far, but I haven't played the next two or ODST.I don't think I have to.>>726104014I haven't played COD's multiplayer except for MW3(original)'s survival mode. Where you kill every enemy introduced into an area, and after that face more, that are slightly harder. See how long you can hold out. That's pretty enjoyable. I did it solo except once with somene else. The ability to be revived by them makes it much easier. I got to around wave 50, somewhere above that. Maybe more. Seen a youtube video where a couple people together got to around 100. Pretty impressive.Could be good for a lightgun. Fatigue what fells you if not difficulty.Improve yourself getting fitter lost in the fight.Killzone 2's excellence was in it's objectives, classes/abilities, graphics, taste, and the fray. All of a team into the opposing's base trying to stop them getting out. And pushing hard in general.2007 version had better graphics though, especially for the guns. secondary fire for everything could have been good for everything too. But it was good enough as is.Might be like spoiling anything, at least to them, to do anything differently.The input lag was a fuckup, but it was ok. It wasn't a design choice i'm sure.Too the high res. Most people then would have played on a NTSC/PAL/PAL60 TV.Quincunx AA is fantastic too. It blurs textures. it blurs edges of geometry so it blends into where it ends. Smooth transition. Of course people complained about it, and that complaint taken as the general concensus instead of the opinion of everyone giving their 2 cents. All together only worth 2 cents. The correct one free and freedom.
>>726106048I mean in-game it hits you over the head with how Helghans are ebil but when you read the backstory it's all ''ISA is the bad guys all along''
>>726106147>The input lag was a fuckup, but it was ok. It wasn't a design choice i'm sure.It was. They were repeating often enough that it was a feature not a bug.>we want our weapons to have le weighty feel
>726106147>4 is the only good HaloI've read some awful bait in my days...
>>726104014custom lobbies and server browsers need to be in every multiplayer game
>>726106276They lied then. That isn't true. It is likely done to smooth out the framerate and make the difference in framerate less severe. Frames rendered ahead/prerendered frames setting you see on your driver. Should be 0. Set it at a high number to see any game become Killzone 2 in lag.Too doing things over multiple SPUs.But a video I remember said they only used 2, then the other 4 for action. So doing nothing, standing still, no action, seeing no-one, game only using 2 SPUs. Game showcased that may be a good idea. Create a reserve that is delpeted during heavy action, without too much of a drop in framerate. Or not feeling too different. Effects using up everything is a good system too. Great effects. Worth it. You don't notice the huge drop in framerate. You do notice the good effects. Explosions etc.Very good looking game. I complain about the change from grimdark grey to gaybright blue and green too much. But I do miss the Killzone 1 feel.Post processing lag too. But worth it. They also did deferred rendering (lighting) without a problem with antialiasing, so they said. I went through the presentations of how they did it many times. GDC conference I think. As well as other videos and sites. I like that they shared that instead of kept it secret. That kind of thing can raise the bar. I'll always consider them responsible for what they did right and shared.Pretty pissed off about turning the guns to shit though. From great looking to some stupid stuff. Eg the front post on the M82.Was a hardcore soldier ethos. Then a bit of apologetic. Good enough, but bad when they did better before.Went for mass appeal instead of doing it for a standard. Like before was for the fighters. After was for the faggots protesting.Good to identify with the cannon fodder and do something to honour them, show it no chances, luck who lives, good people who all deserve to. Fighting to stay alive more than some grand purpose once pushed into it. The old respectful regard.
>>726108040And smooth the input. Have to have multiple SPUs, a CPU and GPU in some semblance of sync and sequence. Especially going back and forth for one frame.
>>726108176And smooth the result in a variety of load. Some too much handled by the next etc. No deficiency in looks, simultaneously having regular input. So input doesn't change a lot going on little going on.
>>726104014It's just another pre-Black Ops slop where the balance was completely broken by aim trannies abusing sniper rifles.
>>726109008Black Ops is shit.All classes except saboteur were useful in KZ2. Sniper the worst after that. Just some variety. Stopping to be invisible was well thought out, going slow able to maintain that too.Saboteur's trait was looking like the enemy after going over an enemy dead body. Or killing them. Something like that. The caveat was eyes would be different or something, the gun carried would be a givaway, the SMG was a POS, nobody would pick that up on purpose. See that the're an infiltrator.Sniper and boost (ability) (much faster sprint) was the preffered option once all the classes had been played enough to unlock all of them. You unlocked them in sequence. Had to see their strengths. Needed to to switch to what was missing or needed to win, or what the enemy's weakeness was. What they weren't prepared for. Wasn't a matter of one was the best against the other, was people adjusted to you, needed to do something different so your actions weren't intercepted. Didn't walk into your death, or lose the obnjective/match.Snipers were and ARE a majior danger, in game and out. Realistic is what people wanted, real danger, get used to that. Know where is and isn't logically dangerous. Experience more than thinking. Taht ingrained. Like a base you build much way from, a stage of effective combat anyway. Awareness what will end in death if you do that. So do something else etc. A dead end option completely cut off. Disregarded. Not a debate. Know.Snipers weren't the big problem in KZ2. That was base rape. The enemy team all at once surrounding your base and killing any trying to leave. You could be caught up in objectives, and they'd do that. or you'd do that so others could do objecticves etc.Invisibility also useful for doing objectives maybe. And carrying a spawn beacon away from base, and getting close to enemy base. Turrets detected invisibility. maybe air support did too. So a rush to put them up and maintain them near enemy base.Change you countered.
God Tier:Tactician & Spawn beacons (M82 the best gun)High TierRocketer & Medpacks...duckduckgo.com search assist says classes have a set primary ability of their class, and an ability you can change.Eg Assault Trooper has high health, 125% or 150% every other singlular unit's health. That locked in. Can't have that in another class, can't change it. Reason to use the class beside weapon. And a secondary ability that could be changed. For AT that "Boost" duckduckgo says it means for this: run longer. But I remember it as faster. Technically the same result. But longer run useful too, and I do remember that maybe, you can outrun people pursuing you when carrying a "flag" eg propaganda recording to a propaganda presenting post. Assault Trooper also had rockets. 3 I think. So highly effective, you could kill several shooting at an objective they were trying to take faster mroe of them there for one of the modes, 6 I think per match. All different. One a killcount. It wasn't about killing. If it wasn't the killcount mode you tried and dying was irrelevant, the objective was the important thing. That a real war feeling. And a highlight of just how cheap life is in war. Trying to do the objective, setting up the objective to be done. Like only that matters. Getting it done just before you died a majior victory. 1 of 6 you win. Maybe too the match over faster if you win more, maybe not. maybe still playing when your side will lose the match. Trying to win the mode. The match won token, maybe, like what was tallied was the amount of modes won. Learn to fight regardless if you will win or not. Can turn the tide enemy having just about won, slacking off, or outplayed. Back and forth until winning, sometimes neither doing so, draw, just about won and then deprived by time, a little trouble that's too much. Don't know if you will win or not until the end.
Assault Trooper could also shoot a rocket when surprised by someone, if far enough away surviving it and healing themselves to do it again. And take their weapon if running out and too much of a waste of time to resupply rockets from an ammo crate.Worst case scenario you cancel them out with yourself. Instead of get killed.
>>726104014You could have said it more simply>KZ mogged Halo and Cod
Assault Trooper could also survive if having the same weapon as someone else and firing at eachother at the same time as long as they weren't another Assault Trooper.And it took a lot of hits before you downed someone.Survive, heal yourself with medpacks. kEEP GOING.The abilities of other classes were usefull. Checking Scout (Sniper) they had a mark ability and someone said that was usefull.Marked enemies I guess appeared on your radar, or all the time when alive with some mark on them.Mark ability probably just pointing gin at them while in scope. Or that for a second. Other enemy snipers unable to sneak after incurring that. And many on the way to an objective marked preventing them doing some surprise attack, or you able to see what they are trying to do and like to try and do again. Or know what the enemy is doing and plan around it. Eg when base is exposed. What objectives will be easier to do. Where some are few so easier targets for closer people. Sometimes you could do a lot with something you got right, impressively a lot. Take on many yourself. Occupy half an enemy's forces single handedly. Or all of them. Sniper ability might have been scan too, so anything on screen marked. Or anything close. Think on screen though which can be one scan covering a lot, nearly all the other team, get into a position where you can see them come out of their base etc, do that, while picking them off. Sniping was hard though, even if with sniper class having 1 shot 1 kill with the sniper rifle. M82 much easier even at all ranges. Shooting may have also exposed you as a sniper too. Maybe not. Or appearing on radar by doing it breifly. Get dead on, enemies coming toward you, like over a bridge sniper could get as many as came, nearly, all at once still overwhelming maybe.You tried anything that might work.Wasn't any disincentive to try. The more you tried the better the player you were. I didn't encounter trash talk either.
>>726105114The Helghast are victims fighting back to take what's rightfully theirs against the oppressors who exiled them to an inhospitable world. Of course they rally around populist authoritarianism, the other way got them sent to a world where babies need gas masks. Shadowfall just fucked the pooch by trying to have it both ways with the ISA which they based more firmly on NATO and the Helghast
You only healed to 50 or 75% health automatically too. So you needed medpacks somewhat as an edge sometimes. And they were instant return to health. No wait. So people in trouble could be back at 100% instantly. Not overwhelmed or dying by the outer range of an explosion of a grenade/rocket.
Maybe not 100%. So better sometimes to wait until regen health took it to 50 or 70, whatever it was and then to full after that.
I still have a PS3 and KZ2, can I still play the multiplayer for free?
>>726104014You can still play it on RPCS3 with custom servers, or on the original console if you want to shit yourself against keyboard+mouse users. PSONE is the available custom server, I believe.>>726113331Yes, Google the DNS settings, motherfucker.
>>726113841How many people be on it, Is it a weekend only type of game?
>>726114141I don't know, I have yet to touch Killzone myself. Too busy touching something else.
Holy fuck PC PORT
>>726114235>Too busy touching something else
