>but the price! whats the point!?You just don't get it. Is about convenience and ease of use. Computers are still too complicated for the average person. Steam Machines are plug and play, like consoles but it has almost ALL the games. This is going to eat consoles alive.
>>726106835Can I watch my mkv format anime on living room tv with this thing?
Consolefags don't care about any of that though, they only care about buying a machine with a low entry cost that can play FIFA and CoD
>>726106965>they only care about buying a machine with a low entry cost that can play FIFA and CoDYou say that and yet they went with the PS5 over the Xbox S.
>>726106835>Computers are still too complicated for the average personThat might've been a good point if prebuilts weren't a thing, it isnt the 2010s anymore, you can get pretty decent prebuilts at reasonable prices
>>726106835but could it compete with the soulja boy?
>makes the ps5 and xbox obsoletekek
>>726106951It's a general purpose computer, what do you think?
>>726106835$800. Nope.
>>726107224We don't know the price yet.
>>726106951Yeah but you could buy cheaper thing that can do that too...?
>>726107253We know they aren't pricing it like a console. Linus asked and they said it would be competitive with PCs.
>>726106835>the average personthe average person won't know it even exists because it isn't at a retail store, consoles thrive off retards because they go to a supermarket's tech section and see a console threre
It's literally just a pc. You're probably using one right now.
>>726106835And what exactly does it offer that plain old PC doesn't?
>>726107203I thought price was still unreleased.>>726107256Like what?
steam machines came out in like 2017 and nobody bought them then for the saem reasons nobody will buy this now
>>726107224Millions paid that for the PS5 when it came out and for the Pro. Scalpers made millions.
VaIvedrones are the biggest "consolewar" warriors ever, first they brought it to PC and now actual consoles.
>>726107529it was 2015 retard not 2017 proton wasn't made yet so out of the box it was limited to basically just native linux compatible games now you can play almost anythingsteam has also made a lot of great update to the steam big pic mode (original steam machine had the 2012 big pic mode that as duct taped together)It will not fail this time they have improved their biggest flaws
>>726107395They aren't trying to get people who already have PCs and use steam, they're trying to get the normies who think the whole "actually having games" thing is cool but are too intimidated by PC and it's options and would welcome the option of just buying a gabecube they can plug into their tv. My buddy with the most xbro normie tier taste in gaming who doesn't even own so much as a laptop was super excited about it.
>>726106835is it really plug and play, or do you have to fiddle with settings like every other PC?
>>726107903Right. I keep forgetting that half the population actually has an IQ less than 100.
>>726107903by requiring a steam account to buy it? That's a bad strategy.
>>726106835>$400It will sell 60 million units>$500It will sell 30 million units>$600It will sell 10 million units>$700It will sell 4 million units>$800It will sell 1 million units>over $800Only a dozen people who all have suffered major head trauma will buy it
>>726107970They're going to say it's the former, but it's really going to be the latter.
Sony is just a better company than Valve. Sony invented the Walkman. What has Valve invented? Nothing.
>>726108253there's no way they even have a million of these in stock.hell, this shit is probably going to be "reasonably priced" but then they're gonna run out and then it's gonna get scalped for more than the hardware is worth.honestly think people should just shut the fuck up about this until they announce the price though.
>>726107970its running steamos so yes its plug and playbut you can fiddle with settings if you want
>>726108253This isnt being sold in retail stores and also in a few countries with zero ads, there is no way in hell its going to sell that much. I predict it will sell about the same or less than the steam deck.
>>726107903Well here's hoping it flops then. We definitely don't need games catering to retards worse than they already are.
>>726106835No, you don't get it. If it's not $300, I'll just build a better PC.
>>726106835Claiming that it'll compete with consoles is bullshit because the marketing alone doesn't compete with consoles.Here's how they'd market it if it was for consoles.Start off with Gears of War, moves into God of War, moves into Halo, into Ghost of Tsushima, into Space Marine 2, into Helldivers 2, into Cyberpunk, into BG3, into Escape from Tarkov, into Arc Raiders, REPO, Peak.Then there'd be 3 games per row and it'd scroll down with a bunch of big games on Steam. "Play it all on your Steam Machine"Console marketing is a lot more action. It completely lacks the action that gets someone excited to play the games that they'll be able to play.
>>726106835>crappy pc is the future
>>726109156Haven't you been paying attention? We've been trending towards everything in the world being crappier for a long time.
>>726109476A bit over a decade by my estimate. Before that the inertia was still carrying things.
>>726107418>Like what?There are about a million chink mini PCs you can buy under 200 bucks that will do general computing shit, and light gaming. This turd is going to be 700 bucks.
>>726109728>chink mini PCsIs that safe?
>>726109156>noooo I need bigger numbers to play the exact same low spec indy games and ''AAA" console ports!Fuck off graphics nigger. 8gb is more than enough.
>>726109909Oh yeah, they're built to very rigorous cheap chink ripoff standards
>>726109728>Zero cooling.>Hardware malware.
>>726109909No, of course, if they can put a script into the firmware of the mouse, that it launches the browser and opens certain site, what they could do with pc?
>>726109909I think people seriously overestimate the effort required to do data collection that can just be intercepted with a pihole and whistleblown. Just airgap it if you're that worried.>>726110316Mine only runs at like 60w, the tiny little fan and air vent is enough to cool that.
>>726106835I'm probably going to switch my W10 computer over to linux and a gaming focused distro is what I am considering. Not going to buy the cube, but I might use its OS.
>>726106835Price matters. If it's too high then anyone who can build pc will instead make miniITX pc themselves and throw steamOS on it, rest will opt out for consoles if they still don't have one.
>>726106835pcvalvejeet thread
>>726106835I like how pcjeets ALWAYS leave out nintendo consoles from these silly consolewar memes because they know nintendo fanboys are thousand times more feral than sony or microsoft fanboys and will fucking bully and eat them alive on twitter for even mentioning pc is better because of le emulation!
>>726110956>wants to sit at the big boy table
>>726110956It's partly because PCkeks think they have an alliance with Tendies
>>726110956Nintendo is not a console anymore. its a handheld.plus I can emulate the switch on my phone.
They're gonna manufacture 500 units and give up
>>726108253If Valve actually has the stock for it. I think they should definitely make stock for it, with a reasonable price. Everything to win and nothing to lose. But I'm smelling another approach like Steam Deck on this. And yeah, they should be available on retail stores at some point. The problem is how Valve is going to tackle with the demand.
>>726108341>What has Valve invented?a gaming platform that actually puts the customer first (crazy, i know!)
>>726111185oh yes, this toothey've been pushing for the whole "SAAR WE POOPEEC AND NINTENDIA IS BEST FRANDS, OKAY?" thing for quite some time nowit's fucking hilarious>>726111215where's the switch 2 emulator? oh...
>>726111495where are the switch 2 games? oh...
>enter a steam machine thread with no mention of nintendo>greeted with tendies seethingwow
>>726111624where are the pcjeet games? oh.. it's just visual novel coomer slop for turd worlders like you...
>crappy PC in a box :(>crappy PC in a box made by Valve:)
>>726111790>>crappy PC in a boxSuch as?
>>726111495Lmao
>>726106835I am getting Ouya vibes just from just looking at the image alone.
>>726111689feel free to check steam.com :^)
>>726106835It's just a computer, please calm downAs someone who already uses a steam controller and big picture mode, it's not that amazing or revolutionaryAnd their streaming to other rooms capability still sucks shit regardless of whether it's steam link, game stream, or moonlight
>>726111864I see, we're back to coping that consoles are some magical device and not just a shitty fucking PC in a box
>>726106951I mean you can set up Universal Media Server from your PC (or maybe something even simpler), to render and stream movies to your TV or pretty much any device.
>why own a closed box when you can have a closed box?wat
>>726111864any console made since the ps2any pc you can't update manually
>>726112153consoles are locked down walled gardens that force you to pay to use your own internet. this is just a sub-miniITX prebuilt in a tiny box
>>726106835Unless it has support for a physical format normies are going to ignore it, it's why the Ouya bombed.You want normies to buy this, include a disc drive for CD, DVD and (4K) Blu-Ray support, you will be surprised how many people buy PS5 and XBox Series Xs just to watch DVDs and (4K) Blu-Rays.
>>726112320its more. its the os. its popularisation of Linux. its slow decay of windows. its the infinite functionality of open hardware and open software.
>>726112540>2025>mcfucking CDs and TV>not just streaming (for free) or pirating shitJesus Christ I knew America was in stone age, but even compared to Germany where every office still has a fax machine, this is sad.
>>726112672People want to own their media, not rent it.
>>726112575this does have some advantages of a console too like shader precaching. also it has the same mid-game suspend and resume firmware as the ‘eck. the io is a little lacking for my taste, but i understand it’s purpose is as a livingroom shitbox
>>726112672>streaming (for free)haven't seen any shit place like that that wasn't shit
>>726112736ok? you don't have flash drives? hard drives? backup solutions?CDs are as outdated as vinyl except without the hipster pull.
>>726112736nobody but a subset of a subset of a subset of autists is buying blurays in 2025. every normie faggot just streams shit
>>726112823it has a type C so just get a hub. they cost like 5 bucks.
>>726112903>subset of a subset of a subsetMeaningless since you never defined how big those subsets are
>>726112894bestfreestreaming orgjust don't forget your ublock.
>>726112540>Unless it has support for a physical format normies are going to ignore itNormies don't care about physical anymore. At least normies under age 30 don't.PS5 all but proved that to me.
I hate valvebronies so much.
>>726113015We're talking about vidya, NIGGER
the 3gabe
>>726112949can you use a type c hub to expand the video out and if so what kind of penalty does that have when it isn’t coming from the gpu directly?
The Steam Deck killed the Switch, now the Gabecube is coming to kill the Xbox and PlayStation. It's over, consoledrones.
>>726112980how about fucking nobody? no normal person is buying blurays in 2025. simple as
>>726112736>People want to own their media, not rent it.You can easily download a disk image for literally every every game for every system including PS4 and older. You now physically have that file on your hard drive, SD card or whatever. No DRM, no subscription.$30 Chinkhelds come preloaded with games and will play PSX, dreamcast and PSP games.
>>726113061fucking torrents then?.. how the fuck do you "stream" games? you want stadia??and how delusional do you have to be that your "physical copy game" is worth jack shit without internet connection to either connect to some shitass authentication server for micro transactions or download 50 gigs of day one patches without which it will be a broken mess?lol.get a large fast external HDD, install games to it and that's your owning.
>>726112903Blu-Rays are selling in the 100s of millions again due to what Warner Bros is releasing through their Warner Archive label (see picture), so much so that Sony started to make them again.https://www.whathifi.com/tv-home-cinema/blu-ray-players/sony-launches-its-first-new-4k-blu-ray-player-in-over-five-years-and-its-good-and-bad-news>>726113037PS5 sold because it had support for physical media (namely DVDs and (4K) Blu-Rays).
bluray fag is either baitingor zoom zooms were actually completely justified with the "unc" meme
>>726113305>how the fuck do you "stream" games?You're the one who brought up streaming while talking about a vidya box.
>>726106835>we're too stupid to do anything, so we will pay more, you seeconsole-tans doing their best to confirm I made the right decision.
>>726113196>Steam Deck only sold 4 million units.>Switch 1 sold 154.01 million units.>Switch 2 sold 10.36 million.I rest my case.
>>726113394cause its not a "vidya box", retardits a fully computer.
>>726113420>steam deck at the top of the greentextWow it LITERALLY can't stop winning.
>>726113387Not baiting, they're selling again due to streaming sites constantly taking away their stuff.This (and it's ilk) is what made Blu-Rays sell like hot cakes again.
>>726113420>over 10 times reduction in sales due to being able to emulate switch on a phone and weak portable hardwarerest in piss, case
>>7261135364 million units in the span of 3 years isn't winning, it's loosing.
>>726113639It has decimated Nintendo.
>>726113639nice try bro I can literally play donkey kong bananza on my apple watchyou're embarassing yourself
>>726113570Other way around, Switch 2 already out sold the Steam Deck.
>>726113639according to what metric?
>>726113570... I honestly cannot tell if retard or pretending to be retarded retard.
>>726113712>>726113730>from 150 to 10rip in piss, tendie switch 3 never deck 2 on the eck
>>726113804Quick question!how long was the switch 1 on the market for again? I seem to have forgotten!
>>726113420>>Steam Deck only sold 4 million units.Valve has never said anything about Steam Deck's sales other than it has sold "millions". The 4 million number is from an analyst that's nearly a year old.
>>726114156Obviously it is false reporting. The steam deck has sold hundreds of millions of units.
>>7261140040 days before emulation
>>726106835pathetic
>>726114276>150 milly sales despite emulation being out 2 weeks before launch>he thinks nintendo... lost...
valve bootlickers are pathetic
Normalfags are never going to buy a Linux pc lol, you could make the case look like a labubu and make it dispense Dubai chocolate and the sheer stench of virginity wafting off every chip would still repel Jim Normgroid
>>726106835>AMD GPUlmao
>>726114449>bootlickers/v/ watered down this term for me faster than twitterfags did to the word 'fascist'
>>726114156>>726114208https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck#Sales>Market research firm International Data Corporation estimated that between 3.7 and 4 million Steam Decks had been sold by the third anniversary of the device in February 2025You're X68KFag from /vr/, are you.
Valve said yesterday the Steam Machine is better than "70% of what people have at home" when people raised VRAM concerns.What does that mean? Why does Valve have to be so cryptic all the time?
>>726114637It's a fair statement. But they are probably counting people that don't play games at all and thus wouldn't have any sort of specs.
>>726114637It means its better than the shit people play the Sims with.
>>726114632(((market research)))
>>726106951Use jellyfin.
If you are worried about the specs just wait for asus,lenovo and msi to release their own just like how they did after the steam deck came out.
>>726115039They already have them
>>726106835Consoles are simply for normalfags who don't care about all the obvious value of PC for some normalfag reason or the other
>>726115102They will release their own machines and push the gaming side more with the same software their use for their handhelds.
Gabe is saving video games
>>726106835>Steam Machines are plug and playWhat the fuck do zoomers think happen when you open a PC? That you need to code steam from the ground up?
>>726106835>convenience and ease of use>Computers are still too complicated for the average person>Steam Machines are plug and playFor PC games maybe. If you want to use it as an actual PC it's much more difficult to use than Windows, even for just getting to the desktop.>>726106951>>726107203You need to switch to the desktop and maybe open an app store or even a console to install shit. Have fun expecting the average person to be able to do any of those.
the best thing is that devs will have to optimize for it - so everyone will get better games to run at normal decent pcs
>>726106835>Buy steam machine >Turn on Call of Duty >Can't play it because it needs Windows or console for anti cheatWhat a worthless piece of garbage.
>>726118158steam os is much easier to use and has better ui than pajeetos most modern troonix distros are very easy to use and just work
>>726113216I buy certain things on bluray, because streaming quality is ass and I'd prefer physical media to purchased non-streaming digital copies due to their accessibility>shin godzilla 4k release>criterion release of Godzilla vs Biollante>criterion Showa Era Godzilla collectionI've also picked up some shelf rotters that included a digital copy because they were incredibly cheap and streaming services drop things randomly. Like $1 unopened thrift store blurays.
>>726118158>For PC games maybe. If you want to use it as an actual PC it's much more difficult to use than Windows99% of people buying this are buying it to play games on though?
>>726119839Ok, but can you use it without creating an account like you can with the PS5?
>>726119905But you need to make a sony account to use a PS5?
I can't believe Valve invented PC Gaming that's so based reddit sisters!
>>726119993You can make offline accounts just fine.
I'm glad this shit is being made so devs uncapable of optimizing their games won't have the "upgrade your rig" excuse anymorethey never pull that shit with consoles and they won't be able to pull it with PCs thanks to Gaben's shitty box
>>726106835Who is this for?Console users aren’t going to abandon their digital libraries, the next Xbox is rumoured to have steam integration plus by the time the ps6 and next box are out this thing will be pitifully outdated.
>>726118158It was about time normaltroons learned to use computers again.>it's much more difficult to use than WindowsGo shill your troon OS somewhere else.
>>726120282Smartphones have guaranteed that will never happen again. Retards coming into the workforce don't even know how to use printers or fucking directories. You stoop down to the retards, or you don't sell shit, simple as that.
>steam machine thread>Um, ackshually you can just hook up a pc already and it's easy just do these couple dozen steps to render cast and stream and look up how tos and then troubleshoot with random google questions and answers and find your answer in 30 minutes in a random reddit post>just get a pc retardJust shut the fuck up. All of you. I have a gayman pc and I love it, but there is a market for the steam machine
>>726120442Valve already has a loyal non-retarded userbase. If zoomers want to enjoy a good console for once they'll have to kneel and beg to suck my tech-literate cock.
>>726106835Bro, I completely understand what you're trying to say, but it doesn't work that way.The target audience that you're talking about is too fucking retarded to even buy the damn thing. Unless valve actually bothers advertising it (they won't) then it will be completely irrelevant
>>726120442Switch 2 will like to have a word with you.
>>726108341>tranny shit movie games are better than actually games on steamlol
>>726120556>Um, ackshually you can just hook up a pc already and it's easy just do these couple dozen steps to render cast and streamI didn't read the thread but isn't it just installing a fucking app and logging in? I downloaded the steam link app months ago to test my network speed on my new androidfag tv box and that was all I needed to do. There was barely any lag on my poorfag internet but my audio was delayed for some reason. I assume that for someone that isn't a 3rd world fag like me, could get it work even better with the same zero effort
>>726106835I need this thing to have a purpose or otherwise I won't buy it like the Steam Deck. I own every console so the only incentive I see is that it has free multiplayer. Anything else?
>>726120920ModdingIf you are poor enough to cry about paid online service, then vidya is also freeThis shit is literally just a retard proof PC, you know what you're going to get
There's actually a very good argument to get the cube instead of a good PC.
>>726106951It's Linux, are you retarded? Typing this on my Linux machine
>>726121080>a retard proof PCTo the credit of skeptics, valves backend is considerably harder to use and understand than Windows is. Mods and emulation can get frustrating on Linux, especially if you don't already have experience with PC nonsense
>>726121080As long as it can play PS2 games I think it's a reasonable buy. I like the idea of a home console that can emulate much more demanding games instead of some chinese handheld.
>>726120880Steamlink works, but is ass for anything where latency matters. Great for turn based rpgs, turn based strategy and traditional gaming. Stopped using it after I set up a media center PC on my TV instead of junking or gifting an old PC build.
>>726106835>Steam Machines are plug and playthe hell they are lmao
>>726106951It's LinuxYou can do anythingIt won't workBut you can do anything
>>726106951Just set up a plex server, unless your PC is ass or you rely on shitty wifi it'll be fine without anything local. If you do need it local, yes you can still just install a media player and codecs via desktop mode. Storage might be an issue if you like lossless audio and best quality available video, so you'll want an external drive for series etc.
>>726106835Kde trannyware, wine jeetware, gaymd e-waste.
>>726106835“I’m interested in this” - Alucard, Symphony of the Night
>>726121684They can be if you are willing to be a steam-only new user only playing what is verified. As soon as you want to move beyond that and need to mess around in desktop mode, it all falls apart. Steam OS really does give you back what you are willing to put in
Its going to cost 400 and everyone here will buy it
>>726106951Why wouldn't it
>>726124890You are delusional if you expect anything under 700. 800 feels like a good spot before prices get absurd.
>>726106835>full gaming PCwhy not just buy a gaming PC right now?
>>726125026>no windows license>they can sell at cost because they profit off steam salesthey could definitely compete with consoles if they wanted
>>726107308>competitive with PCs800 dollars with controller included then
>>726125458Because if I boughted a pre-built gaming pc, you would all bully me for buying a pre-built.
>the significantly more powerful machines that cost less and one of them has exclusives are now obsolete because of a piece of shit that will likely suffer horrendous QC issues just like the steam deck does because valve doesn't know shit about releasing hardware Ok
>>726106835>literally just a PCCompletely pointless product
>>726125691The steam machine IS just a pre-builtThe worst kind of pre-built at that, since the CPU and GPU aren't upgradeable
>>726106835so a PC? a thing that already exists?Look I'm not saying the steam machine will flop but it won't make consoles obsolete either you lunatic. As always, exclusives will determine their success. If anything the steam machine will eat the space left by the xbox, which wasn't that big anyway.
>>726125542They could, but they won't. It's too risky to sell something so experimental at a loss, especially in the middle of a console generation when they don't expect people to be upgrading in the first place. I suspect this first model is specifically for enthusiasts, and future models, once the hardware is proven successful, will be the one to try and compete with consoles directly
>>726106835GOOD MORNING SAARGOOD TO SEE YOU ASSEMBLY
>>726126189>since the CPU and GPU aren't upgradeableSo its a prebuilt PC with all of the disadvantages of a console. Why not just get a gaming PC
It's not to compete with consoles, and it's not to complete with gaming PCs. This is for teenagers who would normally be buying Alienware laptops or prebuilt Walmart brand ""Gaming Computer"'.I'm sure they are also interested in the ps5 owners who were always curious about modding and emulation, but it doesn't seem to be the priority for now
>>726106835something I keep hearing people say is that the Steam Machine will allowed developers to finally have a unified platform for development so everything will be more optimized but wouldnt the Steam Machine need to sell tens of millions of copies?The Steamdeck exists and developers slap on "verified for steamdeck but runs at 20fps lowest settings"
>>726126661>I suspect this first model is specifically for enthusiasts, and future models, once the hardware is proven successful, will be the one to try and compete with consoles directlyyeah i agree with you, there's no sense in competing with 5 year old consoles that are already entrenched.the smart move would probably to release the steam machine 2 whenever the ps6 comes out.
>>726108015>Right. I keep forgetting that half the population actually has an IQ less than 100.Most people aren't tech dorks, my guy. It ain't about IQ, but interest. They ain't interested in tech like you, so they don't know. Hating on them just because they ain't you makes you the asshole no matter what.
>>726127264>release the steam machine 2 whenever the ps6 comes out.Exactly. Thats the one to actually sell at a loss and win console gamers over with
>>726106951Yea, I've done that one my deck.Why did you think that it would be an issue?
>>726127153devs have already been targeting ps5 hardware for years, this changes nothing.
>>726106835>>726107224>>726107308>>726108253MinisForum 790S7 ($900)32GB RAM1TB SSDRTX 4060Ryzen 9 7940HXOverall a device almost 2x more powerful than Steam Machine (2x better CPU, 1.5x better GPU, 2x the memory).This MinisForum PC is just one of many examples. Given the fact that 1.5x-2x better devices exist at the 800-900 USD price point, the Steam Machine's price point that makes the most sense would be $500-$600 for the cheaper model.Valve wants to sell this as the "best bang for buck" device just like they did with the Steam Deck which outperformed $1000 handhelds. Likewise the Steam Machine will be a $500 device which outperforms $700 devices (plenty of PC listings with the $700 price tag have the exact performance as the projected performance of the Steam Machine).
