>$400 It will sell 60 million units >$500 It will sell 30 million units >$600 It will sell 10 million units >$700 It will sell 4 million units >$800 It will sell 1 million units >over $800 Only a dozen people who all have suffered major head trauma will buy it
>>726117098>>$400 >It will sell 60 million unitsand they'd lose hundreds of millions of dollars.
>>726117098>$0>It will sell infinite units
>>726117098>It will sell 60 million unitsno chance unless it's 100$
>>726117258Not really, the hatdware costs themselves are about $500 and thats for a private individual buying 1 unit of each hardware and paying sales tax. Buying in bulk directly from manufacturer would make it much cheaper. $400 for the basic 512gb model and no controller would pretty much be sold at cost to produce
>>726117556There's more to product cost than its BOM
An equivalent build costs more than 800. For sure it will sell a lot for 800, being a proper optimized package.
>>726117098$400 or $500 and datacenters will buy them in bulk
>>726117681Easy solution: dont sell to datacenters
>>726117721you're so naive it hurts
>>726117556If only we lived in fantasy land where the cost of a product is only in its components.
>>726117098What is the point of this vs a small form factor pc? Cheaper but less powerful?
>>726117098this sucks because barely no gacha games will work on it
this only exists to push the market forward, it won't sell a lot. the windows equivalents will inevitably come out and be way more popular but people will still buy games on steam on windows anyway so it's a win-win for valve. i don't think they expect this thing to sell anything, but it'll move the needle for hybrid pc's.
>>726117679That's horseshit. It costs about $500. Ram costs and MB costs are understated by 20 dollars each in this image
>>726117841The point is valve
>>726117757mr gaben, an order of 500 steam machines has entered via steam
>>726117757You're underage and have never been employed at a company
>>726117679Nah, an equivalent build is ~$600-700>>726117982cpu/gpu don't match
>>726118069ya the gpu is actually better in the image than in the steam machine
>>726117982it's custom made so plus 200 million in r&d
>>726117841the ease of use of a console with the advantages of a (weak) computerIt's casual coded in order to make Steam available for console only usersI am also sure that some enthusiasts can find some use out of it, like as a portable emulation box i g
>>726118017>>726118047Projecting retards.Remind me again what was happening to the GPU market pre-COVID?
>>726118219>Projecting retard
>>726117098Steamies are such delusional retards, the Deck took YEARS to not even hit 4 million sales. The vast majority of Steam users are poorfags who play CS2 and other F2P garbage on their 2011 laptops, they won't be able to buy this even if they want to, and normalfags don't give a fuck.
>>726118194steam machine is equivalent to a 7600 (non-XT)
>>726118219Crypto mining boom.You're silly. The 500 dollar mac mini is better at all datacenter related tasks it should not be able to exist in your silly world
>>726117098I'm a rich and affluent first worlder and the Steam Machine by Valve does look enticing to my educated eye.
>>726118218If it costs more than 500$ I doubt it will thrive. Tho Gaben has been savvy enough to know his store is what brings the money, so selling consoles at cost, or even at a loss might be worthwhile to get more customers.
>>726117982I think "your" GPU and PSU are superior
>>726118315Yes and the the 6700 is faster and has more memory than the 7600. Also, the steamdeck gpu is more like the 7400, which is even weaker.
>>726118219>>726118385the PS3 is an even better example. Millions were snatched up for datacenters, part of the reason it kept selling out.>>726118385the mac mini IS used in datacenters, retard.
>>726117098It will not sell more than a VERY GENEROUS 15 million units at best, and only after a decade on the market.These things are not advertised beyond steam, not sold beyond steam, and are not competing with Sony/MS/Nintendo. Even if they were something absurd like $200, they'd still not sell that many units because they're a niche within a niche within another niche. Like, ask yourself, who do you know that owns a PS5? Who do you talk to from 4chan that owns a PS5? Once you realize the answer is maybe two people, reconcile with the fact that the PS5 has sold over 80 million units.That's normalfags at walmart, on amazon, in target, at gamestop, BUYING those consoles in the MILLIONS. The Steam Machine is ONLY sold on a PC game storefront, buried in one of the niche sections and will only be advertised through said storefront. Its rollout will likely be BELOW 100K units BECAUSE these things are not expected or intended to sell MILLIONS OF UNITS.
>>726118512The 6700 is also not available for sale anymore, but let's ignore that shall we?
>>726118514Just dont sell to datacenters you fucking retard. It is not suited for datacenter related tasks anyways, this is all a shitty excuse you made up so you can still believe valve are "the good guys" when they sell it at $800 because "they were forced to"
>>726117258So?It's called a loss leader. Og Xbox was a loss leader that got Microsofts foot in the door.
i hope this won't allow zoomers and normies to catch onto emulation, i just know if emulation becomes mainstream like with with tiktokers and e-celeb zoomer streamers the powers that be will crack down on it with an unstoppable legal force.
>>726118912don't worry, children won't touch old games with a 10 foot pole
>>726118805>Just dont sell to datacenters you fucking retardrefer back to >>726117757What do you think they'll do to stop datacenters from lapping them up?Sony wasn't exactly happy about the PS3s being scooped up for datacenters and a government supercomputer, but they can't enforce restrictions on purchases of their product without adding more restrictions as their own expense.>shitty excuse you made upI'm not even the same guy that posted about datacenters, but if it's too cheap than absolutely a bunch of non-gamers will buy en-masse. It isn't a console, so a ridiculously cheap PC will fly off shelves and Valve don't have anywhere close to the same distribution network as Sony or Apple to handle that.>>726118838Valve has literally stated they will not subsidize the costs. It will be priced like a PC.
>>726118584Ok now tell me how much does a 7600 cost? 250. And its significantly faster than the steambox 7400 gpu
>>726118516>Once you realize the answer is maybe two peopleIf you mean discussing in threads, as talking to people; This is an absurd claim.
>>726119082Faggot retard its dold only through steam, they have 100% control of distribution
>>726119109My point is that barely anyone on 4chan owns a PS5. The majority of PS5 owners are just normalfags who probably post only on instagram and facebook.Normalfags are what make consoles multi million sellers. Steam Machines are not being sold to normalfags. They're being sold specifically and only to Steam users. That's why they aren't going to sell tens of millions (let alone EVEN ten million).
>>726118516I wonder if it would sell better if Valve ended up selling them on Amazon as well.
>>726119232So? Nothing's stopping you from making multiple dummy accounts to buy in bulk, assuming they even attempt to restrict orders.
>>726119232nta but this is clearly designed for newfags into the ecosystem. what could they do to stop a bunch of employees for a company making new accounts and ordering them to their own houses for the company?
>>726117098I doubt it will go over 10m regardless of the price. I think distribution is a bigger problem. In my country its still a hassle to order steam deck, i cant order it from steam directly, and i know there are a lot of other countries with the same problem.SteamOS also needs to be as easy to use as windows and just work without needing to fuck around with it and i dont mean just for gaming
>>726117098More like>$400 It will sell 5-6 million units>$500 It will sell 3-4 millions units>$600 It will sell 2 million units>$700 It will sell between 500 thousand - 1 million units>$800 It will sell 250 thousand units>over $800 It will sell 100 thousand units.
>>726119394Oh yeah a fucking datacenter is going to make 100 illegal accounts and then put in 100 separate orders for 100 steam machines so they can can save $50 a piece except actually there wont be any savings because they're gonna have to pay for 100 separate shippings and then receive them all and unpack them separately, and steam will allow it, and the datacentre will then run them in a cluster as a FSR-farm where customers can stream the FSR3 upscaling for a small fee, the only datacenter task these machines are good forFucking retard
>>726119423Even just the logistics alone would eat up any potential savings. Not to mention it's a rediculous scenario that no big company would ever consider doing.
>>726119082This retard actually believes thst the US military drove around to every walmart in the state to buy their ps3s
>>726117681Price it at $700 but give $200 voucher on Steam
>>726119768>illegal accountslolwut>separate orders for 100 steam machines so they can can save $50 a piece That's a huge saving when you're buying tens of thousands of units. Companies bend over backwards for a couple dollars of savings. The Steam Machine at $400 would be ridiculously cheap even compared to bulk business order products, it would absolutely get lapped up by businesses.>>726119973US govt. bought their units in bulk from Terra Soft Solutions (who preloaded the PS3's with YDL, a distro they made for PS3), but TSS themselves had to purchase from wholesalers and retailers in the first place to build their inventory. So, indirectly speaking, yes.
>>726117556the dram by itself is easily 100 bucks one of these days.
>>726117098it will be $1200. it won't sell 1million units
>>726117098>>$400 Delusional. Never going to be this low>>$500 Extremely unlikely>>$600 Believable>>$700 Likely>>$800 Too high for the basic SKU>>over $800 Way too high
>>726119556 This is basically the Achilles heel of the whole plan. Valve’s global logistics are dogshit compared to Nintendo, Sony, or even Microsoft. You can’t expect to sell tens of millions when half the planet can’t even click “buy now” without going through 3 resellers and a customs headache. And yeah, SteamOS needs a serious UX pass if they want it to appeal beyond hobbyists and Linux autists-most people aren’t gonna mess with Wine configs or terminal commands just to play Elden Ring. If it doesn’t Just Werk™ out of the box, it’s dead in the water for mass adoption.
