Where should I start? Where SHOULDN'T I start?
Echoes. Start with Echoes.
>>726312282Don't start with Echoes
>>726312691I'm sorry, I made a typo! I actually meant to say you should start with Echoes.
Play Awakening first
>>726312282Awakening
>>726312282I’ve seen this exact same “where do I start” thread with an awakening picture like 3 times now.
>>726313321You're not hallucinating.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/Yuc7lD2T7EFl4v_TjgRjIQ/
>>726312636>>726312992I'd also like to express my fondness for that particular game
Start with Awakening
>>726312282start with engage which has branches to every fire emblem game and designed for a big screenawakening/fates is also fine to start with, but they're stuck on 3ds's tiny screenthree houses is also fine to start with, but just bear in mind, the monastary is a drag, and it's not a staple of the entire series
>>726312282The GBA ones
I thought Awakening was the bad normie one?
>>726312282Fe1 on the nes.
>played half of FE GBA, dropped it>played Awakening>played half of Fates, dropped it>played a bit of Echoes, 3ds broke>played 3H>played a bit of Engage, didn't like the non-combat parts at all.thank you for reading my blog.
>>726316178It's actually the most hardcore one. Lunatic Classic regularly filters secondaries hard
You should play Elvandia Story
>>726312282You just shouldn't start, like at all.
>>726316582It also filters your retarded asses too!
First:Fire emblem 3 contains two books, the first book is a retread of the story of fire emblem 1. It has different gameplay designs and mechanics and the game does not mechanically replace 1 completely so its not like there is literally 0 value to playing the first game, but even if you want to play the whole series in order it is perfectly reasonable to skip 1 to just play FE3 and not have to do the same story twice. That said, if you do intend to skip 1, do NOT start with FE2, play 3 before going back to 2. If you intend to start the series from the beginning, i recommend either 1,2,3,etc or 3,2,etc.Do not start with 10, radiant dawn for the wii, because it is a hard sequel to fe9. Do not start with 12 (new mystery ds) either, because it is also a hard sequel but also for reasons explained below.Fire emblem 11 and 12 are remakes of book 1 and 2 of FE3. I repeat, FE11 is NOT a remake of FE1, it is a remake of the first book of FE3.5 is kinda a sequel/midquel to 4 but its not required to play 4 first7 is a prequel to 6 but its also the first game to be translated and is designed for series newcomers so its not expected you should play 6 first.Cont
>>726316385damn SoV is so shit it made this anon 3DS explode with its shittiness.
>>726317064This is the most AI thing ive ever seen.
>>726317064Opinions begin here:Fe11 and 12 are shit. Play FE3 instead. The only thing they are good for is their stupid difficult hardmode where the only win condition is as follows; enemies that are mathematically better than you in every way miss their attacks an unusually large number of times in a statistical anomaly that is only probable because you the player can reset the map infinite times on the times they dont miss.Echoes is a remake of FE2 and to the reverse of the ds games, is better than fe2 in just about every way and replaces it near-entirely. I strongly recommend skipping fe2 and just playing echoes when you get around to it.3 is an amazing game that is straight up better than 1 in every way. 1 is fine but do not let it get in the way of 3.You should absolutely play 4 before 5.You should probably play 7 before 6.Fates is fine to start with, conquest is better than birthright for experienced players but birthright is better for newcomers. Dont play revelations unless you both know what compile heart is and would also honestly recommended a compile heart game to another person.Good starting points are 3, 7, 9, and every game from awakening on (except echoes, which is good but not good to start)Okay starting points are 1, 4(hard but if you play other srpgs its fine to start here), 6 (same), 8(its fine, but its easier to start with 7)TldrStart with 3 or 7 preferred, or 9 or any modern title from awakening forward as second choice.
>>726317203I wrote it all by tap-typing on a mobile device during a car ride
Ignore this guy >>726317205 and start with Thracia
Ignore the entire thread and start with Tear Ring Saga
>>726312282Start with that game obviously. Then play 3H. Congrats. You have now just played every FE worth playing. None of the other ones have good dating and marriage mechanics
Kill yourselves instead.
>>726312282ANDARON SAGA!!!!!
Marriage with Marianne!
>>726312282>Where should I start?Sacred Stones or Path of Radiance. Probably Sacred Stones. >Where SHOULDN'T I start?Anything after Radiant Dawn.
>>726318326This but the opposite
>all these retards giving answershe’ll make the same thread asking the same question tomorrow
>>726318432ok idc ANDARON SAGA!!!!
It’s just engagement farming and oldfags using this to gaslight their opinions
>>726313321And I've seen the exact same Dalle AI jeet thread for the last 2 fucking years who cares you nigger at least this is actual video games
I remember when Fire Emblem had dignity
>>726312282I know this is a bait thread but start with FE7 Bump
>>726319858>1 pegaslut per LordFE7 was based for this, even if Hector could steal Lyn's pegaslut
>>726312282Start at Fire Emblem (Blazing Blade)Stop at Radiant Dawn
paying Farina for sex
>>726312282>shouldBlazing Blade for multiple lords and easing you into the game with LynSacred Stones for typical Fire EmblemAwakening for modern Fire Emblem and eugenics>should notEchoes was a remake too faithful to its detriment (bad game, do not play)Three Houses is more of a life simulator than a wartime game (decent game, but not typical Fire Emblem)
>>726323963Cutesythea
>>726323963Post her feetsythea
>>726324262
>>726324262>>726324435I now remember that one anon that was obsessed with her feet.
>>726325774What sorta stuff did he post?
Is Echoes even good?
>>726326176It's really pretty. Aside from that, it's almost exactly the same as Gaiden.
>>726312282>Where should I start?fe7 / fe8>Where SHOULDN'T I start?3H or thracia
>>726326176No, the graphics are the only good thing about it. The story was shittier than I remembered and only like 6 characters actually matter. Gameplay is lmao
>Fire Emblem Oldfags suck off pre-Awakening FE>But Echoes is bad because it's too faithful to the original game it's remaking Eh?
>>726326176i enjoyed it. but i like me some NES FE despite all their faults too. Just know what you're getting in to
>>726312282Persona starte at 3 and FE started at Awakening. Ignore Boomer emblem fatties
>>726326823Everyone agrees Gaiden sucks.
>>726326823It’s a remake of Gaiden, one of the truly worst FEs alongside the first game
>>726326823It's the 3DS babby newfags who hate Echoes
>>726326823Final Fantasy oldfags still hate II, how is this so hard to understand?
>>726326105He would always post this one pic of Lysithea with her boots off and talking about the smell.
Why do we keep having this same thread over and over
>>726329758You're here forever
We have him captured
>>726329758Because you didn't give him a good answer
>>726329758Because we’re in limbo waiting for more Fortune’s Weave news.
>>726332478This. I just want more screenshots about my big booba wife
Ivy
Anna dating simulator fucking when?
>>726332478Didn’t we have to wait like half a year for new 3H news? Hopefully that isn’t the case again
>>726316178It is. Three Houses is the good normie one.
>>726326176It's an immaculately polished turd.
Awakening because you could have kids and then play using your kids
Shez dating simulator fucking when?
Why are we having the same thread
>>726334698sorry anon, we didn’t get a definitive edition so she stays in the musou forever
>>726334205I'd rather just play Genealogy
>>726333612We just have to wait until the January/February Direct when Nintendo shows off what's upcoming for the year. Then we'll start getting dripfeed info posts from Twitter.
>>726312282The series is diverse in what it delivers.Depends, The series is diverse in what it delivers. What you want from this series?Be honest.
>>726329758The alternative is feg
>>726326176It can be fun if you go into it with an open mind about how some maps are going to be annoying gimmicks, because that's just how things were at the start. Desert maps with Archer corridors made more strategic sense to Kaga and he never stopped to ask if it would actually be fun to play through.
>>726333612Well, the earliest I can see us getting maybe a trailer or something is if there happens to be a December direct next month. The latest I can imagine is around the change of fiscal year, so March/April.
Dietrich's gimmick is his Hero's Relic and *teleports behind you* arts. Leda's gimmick is her demon summoning.Theodora's gimmick is her battalion actions.What is Cai's gimmick? He's stated to be a beast tamer, but we already saw another cassowary rider like him in the trailer, so that's not a unique class. Is it his Aubin hand thing? How will that be represented in gameplay?
>>726337307He’s got Sothis’s power aka rewinding time
>>726337307Cai is probably the Byleth of Fortune's Weave.
>>726337414If we got multiple campaigns, but time rewind was only available to one of them, that would actually be pretty funny. I wonder if you'd see a larger high difficulty statistic playing him than other characters just for the crutch.
>>726312282gba games
>>726337765There was a ton of talk about split campaigns, or a Radiant Dawn structure of following multiple PoVs through the story, but what if it were really just as simple as each Lord getting their own introduction chapter, then the rest of the game is from Cai's perspective as the "player character" I give this scenario like a 2% chance but it would fit the trailer showing Cai as a green unit at one point, but also being the only one we got to see being controlled in the town./v/ would have a meltdown if they were forced to play Cai as their only option.
>>726338703It's too early to tell anything about the game yet.
>>726338880Sorry I didn't realize speculation was forbidden. Let's just go back to more Marianne posting then I guess.
>>726339153Wolt posting is better
>>726338703I know it’s probably not happening but seeing references to the 3H cast at all would be kino.
Fire emblem was never good
>>726339625Some sort of ancestor or nod to Petra seems obvious to me as she was already a foreigner. Maybe a reference to Seteth if we get to know more still living Dragon people.
Fire emblem was always good
>>726340418This
>Where should I start?>What game is good to start with>We have these threads everyday These threads seem unnatural and inorganic, we need a Hero we need a Janny
I tried FE GBA and was genuinely shocked that this “series” is so long running >srpg so you have to manage units and be sure to get exp>…but exp is limited due to no grinding, so you have to be thoughtful about which units you feed and not just casually disperse exp >…but you can’t possibly know which units are good and which ones will get completely outclassed by later ones, making your gained exp worthless and better spent (in retrospect) on someone else>…and growth is complete RNG so your best character may be someone else’s worst>…and getting additional battles and endings requires literal ARCANE knowledge of secrets, some of which are just absurdly strange Genuinely blown away that people like this garbage The story wasn’t even interesting and honestly only the music and animations kept me going
>>726316385Is this your idea of flirting for (Yous) anon? Well I’m still not having sex with you, too bad :)>>726317064Also worth noting FE3 is not a perfect remake of 1, some units and maps were cut in Book 1, wish we had a Romhack of it that restores the cut content.>>726318432He’s making the same threads and yet idiots keep entertaining it like a joke
Stop making this thread
>>726318238>>726318535Based and Andaron-pilled
I'm currently doing a Shadow Dragon ironman and I'm having a blast. I really enjoy it when these games just get straight to the point and don't waste your time with fluff.
>rom hackswe
>>726341603Literally what else is there to play in the SRPG genre that’s fun? The only other series I liked is ogre battle and that’s dead
>>726330825Literally Who?
>>726341603>fe le bad because it filters fags who want to grind all dayI see nothing wrong with this
>>726336385I’d rather just play Binding Blade
>>726312282Awakening, then just go foward
Same threadSame posts Same arguments every dayi'm convinced FE fags are actual bots. Beep for me.
>>726317205holy retard
>>726341603It's designed for multiple playthroughs and to give you a different experience every time.
>>726341826we know shit eater
>>726342061That what we get when fags try to force a thread every day
>>726341603>FE is bad because of my skill issue(lol
>>726341603mad because bad the series started on nes in japan
>>726339524Fuck that retard, he's the worst unit in FE6
>>726341665>wish we had a Romhack of it that restores the cut contentOne of the things that makes it weird trying to make FE1 in FE3 engine is the bizarre ballista class/weapons, which FE3 has its own different version of instead.
>>726342268based
>>726341603>but you can’t possibly know which units are good and which ones will get completely outclassed by later onestrust me, you can know which units are shit pretty fast and your good units will naturally be the ones you use the most. The games are lenient enough that you can still beat the game even if you used Dorcas or something a lot for whatever reason.
>>726341751Pogeaux drew more FE art?
>>726342475What is this shit?
>>726312282Best Start: Without question that would be Awakening. It's the prefect balance of having amazing gameplay with a solid story and good mechanics, that doesn't stray too far away from what Fire Emblem is. It introduces you to FE exceptionally well. Worst Start: Probably 3H, not because it's bad but because it's so different to the rest of the series that it doesn't give you any experience of what a FE game is. Although, perhaps that'll be what FE games will be from now on.Second Worst Start: Anything pre7. Just really clunky, slow and usually with some obnoxious hidden mechanics. It's not like you can't start with them, but you'll probably get blown out and quit instead.
>>726342061Why is this tranny having a melty
>>726342475I need to get my eyes checked, I thought she was taking a giant shit
>>726341603This. This is why FE is generally unpopular among tbsfags.FE appeals to FEfags only, who don't play other strategy rpgs, turn based strategy games, and other adjacent genres. They are nintendofags at their core, and only like nintendoslop
For me it's Shamir
>>726342698fuck off
>>726342680>who don't play other strategy rpgs, turn based strategy games, and other adjacent genres.Okay name them nigger, I’m willing to try something new
>>726342698FUCK OFF
>>726342629>that doesn't stray too far away from what Fire Emblem isAwakening September never really ended.
>>726342629>Awakening>amazing gameplaykek
>>726342698FUCK OFF!
>>726342738>>726342774>>726342850Ay yo
>>726342629Truthnuke
>>726342874FUCK OFF!!
>>726342680The Ogre series is one of my favorites and its derivatives like Unicorn Overlord for Ogre Battle and FFT/Triangle Strategy/Devil Survivor (kind of) for Tactics Ogre are all completed and well loved members of my collection. Fire Emblem is still my favorite franchise of all time due to it being snappier and easier to pick up and play with most of the games not skimping on depth if I want it out of that particular playthrough. People can like multiple things.
>>726342974Sex
Play 4 first so you'll know if you got filtered early on.
>>726342002>>726342152>>726342253Genuinely retardedThe issue with the game legitimately hiding information from the player (aka which units are worth investing limited resources in) is unforgivable And how can you know a unit is bad compared to one you get later?Other srpgs have you create units or customize them enough so that the player ultimately is still in control even with limited knowledge FE is just badly designed Strategy is about not knowing what your ENEMIES will do, not not knowing about what your own army looks like
>>726343497Your skill issue is showing
>>726343497The games aren't designed to end up soft locked. Using a weak unit won't cause you to not be able to finish the game, they just might not be the best at what you want them to do or might be at risk of dying for various reasons.>And how can you know a unit is bad compared to one you get later?By playing through the game and meeting them yourself. How brainrotten do you have to be to want to know literally everything before you play through the game? As for spotting bad units, you should be able to tell pretty early on once you have a grasp on how stats work. If a slow fuck with low defense looks bad he's bad. There's an obsession with growth in these games despite that being a noob trap. If you can't tell the guy with good enough stats all around with high movement and 1-2 range weapons is good I have to wonder how you'd figure out what to build out of customizable recruits.
>>726343497>And how can you know a unit is bad compared to one you get later?all units have different grades but no units in any GBA game are truly bad. You could maybe argue fe7 bartre but even then training him is a required condition to recruit a secret character so tons of people who do LHM+HHM full recruit + all gaidens have dumped XP in the worst unit possible and still managed to complete the game in its hardest difficulty while completing all objectives.
>>726312282Begin with FE7 and then move to its sequel FE6. Later, play Sacred Stone, and after move one to Path of Radiance & Radiant Dawn. After that do whatever you like.
>>726343925>The games aren't designed to end up soft locked.FE is very easy to softlock, tons of people do it casually and dont want to admit it here, because admitting you got your best units killed and then cleared the map and saved over your old file sounds very stupid in hindsight.
>>726344081You can also use Bartre as an unga bunga to okay effect if you train him. Every unit in FE is useable
>>726343497>And how can you know a unit is bad compared to one you get later?Why does that even matter? If you get a better unit later just start using them. Or don't - the games are mostly easy enough that you can use only shitters and still be able to beat the game without much issue.
>>726344179>FE is very easy to softlockThe only way to softlock in FE games is to purposefully try to do so (i.e. discarding every weapon you own). Even if you wipe out every unit barring your Lord, you can still beat almost every map in all games.
>>726344081Bartre is way better than Rebecca, Wil, and Lyn. In my opinion he's a better long-term investment than Dorcas, too.
>>726343497You're obsessing over the lack of growth displays when growths themselves really don't matter all that much. Almost all games give you multiple tools to beat the game even if all your units suck or ended up dying. Literally just use whoever you feel like. Instead you're panicking over info you read online because you think you're gonna softlock yourself because you trained up a shitty archer or whatever. Just look up a fucking tier list if you hate using bad units that much.
>>726344214he's really limited even then, his skill is just truly abysmal. he exists only to pick off soldiers and armor knights and a few underleveled lance-locked cavs, even trying to unga mages is a risky bet because he can't get good hit % even with weapon triangle neutral.
>>726344440people meme on lyn too much. shes bad in serious runs but if your goal is simply to beat the game there is far worse than the sword unit with insane avoid and a busted PRF weapon.Youre probably right about archers.
>>726344507Yeah, that's why I didn't say to great effect as he still has issues. However, even his low base spd and bad skl can be planned for enough so that he has the niche, and it helps him that FE7 enemies are weak.
>>726344394I've never softlocked nor known anyone who softlocked other than that one FE5 run that lost because the guy didn't bring door keys or some shit.
anyone else feel like per-turn saves completely take the bite out of the stakes in this franchise? like i'm playing fe4 and it just feels as though no choice individually matters all that much cuz i'm not losing very much time at all for experimenting.
>>726344440>Bartre is way better than RebeccaRebecca will actually turn out good if you train her and give her supports. The main thing Bartre has over her is high HP, but all of his growths are very coin-flippy and his support options suck (you gonna use Dorcas too?)
>>726344179You can't get softlocked in fire emblem unless you kill off all your units, drop all your weapons, and keep your main lord(s) at level 1.No killing your best unit and then beating the chapter isnt a softlock, people regularly beat the game without resetting if the best units end up dying.
>>726344864That was only a softlock in a relay context because he could have just brought any door keys from the convoy or waited for the boss to open the door on turn 30 instead of killing him. Actual softlocks in FE don't happen unless you deliberately try to cause them.
>>726344984Rebecca can't turn out good because she's a fucking GBA archer with even worse bases and similarly shaky growths.
>>726344984Bartre has some okay supports, notably with Canas and Raven.
>>726341603GBA is genuinely the worst era (including tellius). Don’t listen to oldfags and their uncslop
Should I color some FE thing?
>>726312282>Where should I start?Mystery of the Emblem.If you're allergic to translation patches, either play Sacred Stones or Shadow Dragon.If you insist on starting with some shit like Awakening or Three Houses, just fuck off and play something else, we don't need more of you.>Where SHOULDN'T I start?FE1 on Famicom is really just a curiosity, MotE Book 1 effectively replaces it.Gaiden shouldn't really be played at all because it sucks, while Echoes (remake of Gaiden) should be played after MotE for story reasons.There's also a few sequel games (Thracia 776, Radiant Dawn, New Mystery) that you likely wouldn't have even tried to start with but I'll mention them for completeness.I guess the biggest one I want to emphasize is that you shouldn't start with Blazing Blade (FE7). It gets recommended as a good beginner game a lot because it was the first one to get localized, but I'm not a fan of that approach. Play Binding Blade (FE6) before it.>>726341665>Also worth noting FE3 is not a perfect remake of 1The maps that got cut from Book 1 fucking sucked, they were fat that needed trimmed.The character cuts are a shame, though.
>>726344702Her avoid isn't even that good. The Mani Katti doesn't make up for all of her stats outside of skill and speed being bad. Being a 2x effectiveness game also hurts the Mani Katti's effectiveness at killing the things you want dead, and most of the classes it would be good for use lances which causes your shaky dodge to be actively dangerous since Lyn is made of tissue paper. I wish FE7 had [weapon type] armors and cavaliers. That way Eliwood and Lyn didn't feel so gimped compared to the just okay Hector.
>>726343925>The games aren't designed to end up soft locked.There is a somewhat hilarious softlock where specifically eliwood normal mode limstealla has insane values for defense and resistance, so with 0 growths the only ways to kill her are harken + vaida or, if you go karel route, required fishing for jaffar crits.
The only softlocks I can think of is not having any unit other than Hector for BBD, as well as having no other unit than Lyn for the forced tutorial where she insists on recruiting Dorcas over protecting Natalie.
It’s not even worth having a conversation with FEtards because legitimate arguments devolve into “muh skill issue.” That’s great man, you’re “good” at a poorly designed game. Considering srpgs are not short afternoon games, I’d rather invest my time in a game or series that’s actually thought out rather than just nonsense unbalanced trash. The fact that later entries went full unity style 3D graphics instead of the nice sprite work gives me even less of a reason to check them out, because when you’re missing one of the few redeeming qualities to your series, what on earth do you have left?
>>726345861Skill issue lol
Conquest
>>726345861bruv shut the fuck up and get good
>>726345861>legitimate arguments>Paranoia about getting softlocked in FE7 normal modeBait or retarded
>>726345998MY RACIST QUEEN!!!!
I will never play:FatesThree HousesEngageThey are not real Fire Emblem games and are for Fatlus fag losers
>>726345861>WAAAAAAAHYou having skill issue does not mean the game is badly designed btw
>>726345861>>726343925I never once told you to git gud. I told you to play the games and let them show what they have to offer over the course of a playthrough. If you're coming in here with an agenda no one is going to be able to change your mind.
>>726346073>They are not real Fire Emblem gamesHow would you know? You never played them.
>>726346073Play Awakening on Lunatic Classic then
>>726346073I see only the trvth here
Engage is a game for children.
Is it true Mekkah got filtered by Conquest Hard mode
>>726346073Three Houses not being super far off what Berwick Saga tried back on the PS2 legitimizes it a lot in my eyes.
>>726346319Yes
>>726346357What chapter was it?
>>726345280Color Tiki
>>726346461Beginning of ch12 was when he went from Hard to Normal mode.
>>726346737I did this one a really long time ago, but I think it still looks good!
>>726326176I'm playing it right now. Just got into Rigel. I would have preferred the usual mission-to-mission structure but I don't dislike the way things work. The only part that sucks about it is the constant enemy spawns on the map just like the fucking hammer bros in Mario 3. Makes me wanna avoid doing sidequests. Also don't like that every map so far is rout the enemy. I guess it's not a problem exclusive to this game, for example 6 is nothing but seize the throne. I can live with it. Other than that it's pretty good I think
>>726347009>Just got into Rigel.Pray for him, boys.
complaining anon here, I was wrong about fe7. i beat lyns mode and it was fun. looking forward to eliwood and then Ill play sacred stones
>>726312282>"I do not have a good tolerance for older games and need something on a modern console"Start with Three Houses.>"I do not have a good tolerance for older games and just want the most accessible game for a newcomer"Start with Awakening>"I have a good tolerance for older games and want the best game to teach me the basics"Fire Emblem 7 for the GBA>"I have a good tolerance for older games and but hate long tutorials, so just give me something simple to start with"Sacred Stones>"I have a high tolerance for retro games"Mystery of the Emblem>"I have an EXTREMELY high tolerance for retro games, give me the oldest shit you got"Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light
>>726329758i want a +18 fire emblem anon
>>726346836It's funny that it was the first chapter with a (pretty lax) turn limit which did him in when he's usually so anal about turn counts.
>>726329758Visit /vg/ if you wish to observe the remains of starved fandoms.
>>726347185If you mean Dead Man's Mire (hopefully), yeah I just got through with that. Allow me to add something I forgot: I HATE CANTORS
>>726346073Awakening on Lunatic+ is funny though, also Awakening has one of the hardest maps in all of Fire Emblem that completely rewires how the game needs to be played but the rest I agree with
>>726346321>you eat together with some of your army members in both games>that means 3H and Berwick are very identical games!Kek, anyone notice how 3H and Engagefags each always try so hard to legitimize their games in the eyes of hardcore fans? You complain about uncslop yet you're constantly trying to seek oldfag approval.
>>726347803>If you mean Dead Man's Mire (hopefully)The rest of the game drops off a cliff once you cross the river. The writing becomes stupider, the maps become more tedious, the enemies become more "spawn new ones every turn" etc.And yes, it's all Rout maps. You'll get like two unique ones in there, but it's all the same shit but worse.
>>726347320be the change you want to see in the world
>>726346073Seethe shounen shitter larper
>>726345861
>>726312282I just found out that manakete can be infinitely upgraded by maxing their levels, then changing their class to manakete (they will keep their stats and) and just making starting again from lv1. so I married nowi to someone, got nah, married tiki and got a Morgan manankete, got four one hitter
I have a question (or several).The only FE I've played is Awakening but before it I've played Xcom1 and 2 (the reboots). In those games, the units are negligible and basically just pawns you send to their deaths, they are infinitely renewable and they have no real form of character or personality beyond their names. You don't give a shit about losing any of them for anything more than the gameplay incovenience it causes, similar to Darkest Dungeon.In FE awakening, there is a set number of units and permadeath can be toggled from before starting the game. I turned permadeath on and while playing the game I basically reloaded the save the few times I would inevitably lose a character. The thing is I do not get if the games expects me to do as I do or simply ignore my dead units and just roll with it? The only characters which get you a game over by their death are Robin, Chrom and Lucina but like if all your units die but them, you just have to finish the game with only those 3 or something?My real question is why a game with the concept entirely revolving around forming couples of your units INCLUDING your own avatar as well as the children of those couples would expect you to go along with any unit dying like they don't matter, despite all of those units being extremely compelling and lovable. Does the game expects me to not give a fuck about my own waifu dying just because she isn't relevant to the main plot like the 3 main chars are, despite her being a better character in my opinion?I don't dislike the game, in fact I love it but I do not believe that, for a first run, people just play permadeath and don't reload their saves just because its "le hard game" and pass over the fact a single unit death means hundred of dialogues you'll never read.
>>726348704The games used to be designed around expecting you to lose units and not reset but they stopped doing this around the DS era.
>>726348704Because it adds weight and stakes to the gameplay. It transforms FE from just a game into your own personal experience where you had tragic deaths, memorable close calls, etc/ It also prevents you from just using suicide tactics to cheese.
>>726348704FE's philosophy is based around tragedy, aka it both wants you to care about units and wants you to lose them to permadeath. That being said, the game won't force you to play like this, which is why you can savescum out of any death and is the reason why modes like Casual mode were introduced, since some players are, by their own admission, not that hardcore.
>>726312282>rock paper scissors but it's a visual novel >the plot of every game is "evil empire is secretly being controlled"there, now you can skip the series and play something good
>>726348704The older games gave you replacement units nearly every chapter that were usually worse than the starting roster as an incentive to not kill off your main party. Also casual mode makes the gameplay less impactful and personal since you can just suicide your units into a boss until you win like >>726348952 this anon said
>>726348849They figured out that players were savescumming since at least FE4 with the combat rank tracking lost battles, so the expectation that a player will lose units really was just from FE1 to FE3. However, every game accounts for players choosing to continue on without units.
>>726348383Oh. I was thinking it was just that one map because it's a pretty huge difficulty spike, even compared to Alm's (the two of his I've done so far have just been more of the same), and the mission after that was really easy. Thanks for the heads up though
>>726348334Remaining in one hub city where you watch things develop, work to permanently recruit units who are able to be used temporarily every chapter, progress characters through their side stories which result in optional chapters, chapters progressing after an intermission where you spend time doing side missions, and a story focus on shaky allied politics with a secretive head of state. In addition to feeding your units at the taverns. It's not 1:1 but there are lots of parallels in how you approach each chapter. They're different from normal Fire Emblem games in ways that are similar to each other. But you'd know that if you weren't just a gen war shitposter.
>>726349305There's a difference between acknowledging some people may like resetting and actively designing your game with this expectation. FE focusing more and more on character building and the shrinking of roster sizes is at active odds with permadeath as a design choice. It really isn't a coincidence that this shift in design and the addition of casual mode and turnwheel all happened at around the same time.
>>726348952Virion is my favorite character from Awakening and I think all his dialogues made my experience of the game 10x better. He's also the only archer you get for the whole game, almost.Let's say hypothetically, I lose Virion early on due to bad positionning or shitty RNG, you tell me I should accept he died because of "weight" despite the fact I know for sure now that in retrospect, I would have enjoyed the game less by letting him dead than reloading my save? You could answer "well turn off permadeath" but one thing I agree on is that the game without permadeath is too easy too steamroll that's why the franchise always had permadeath in the first place.I cannot speak for the whole franchise and I strongly believe previous games might have had less interesting characters you'd care less if they died (as well as more units overall) but in Awakening in particular I genuinely don't get why you'd just let your units died for imaginary weight because genuinely all of them are too cool to die from random ennemies. The only units I've let die are the fat guy in armor and the kid.
>>726318326It's always funny how quickly Jill stops being racist
>>726349591>FE focusing more and more on character building and the shrinking of roster sizes is at active odds with permadeath as a design choiceThe only recent game where roster size is smaller than historically is 3H, which wasn't made by IS. As for character building, it's just a bit of natural expansion over what was already there with supports, as most characters still barely matter for the story and are purposefully simple.>Casual modeAs the name explicitly states, it's for casuals that don't want to deal with consequences. Picking it is a concession that you don't want to play FE for its gameplay>TurnwheelA tumor introduced because the casualfags couldn't just stick in their lanes, in part because elitists kept insisting that they shouldn't pick the mode made for them. Even then, Engage does purposefully get rid of the Turnwheel on occasion, so clearly IS still is trying to maintain the challenge of FE.
>>726312282>Where should I start?Sacred Stones if you want to dive deeper into the series. It's fairly easy, has an optional grinding spot, and it's the base for most of the fan campaigns.
>>726349258I don't remember her having all that
>>726350316now you do
The turnwheel is the best mechanic they've added to the game since supports.
>>726350198People keep begging for remakes of games like FE4 and 6 when you know for a fact both of those games or any other that they choose is going to be gutted, rewritten, and casualized. I just want them to make a new unique universe again like they did with Fodlan. If you want to play the older games so bad they're all literally right there for free. Secondaries baka
>>726350619>casualizedThat part isn't true, the newer games are not afraid to be way harder than the older games. The only casualization that has been forced upon the game is the dreaded Turnwheel, which even IS acknowledged as needing work with how Engage attempted to balance it.
>>726350198You can cope about how these mechanics are all shit and shouldn't exist, but the point is that they do and that they felt the need to make concessions to these types of players by adding them. I'm saying that the way newer FEs are designed makes you mentally lean towards being less accepting of a given unit's death because of how much more you invest into them than was the case in previous entries. Adding all these casualization mechanics is just a side effect of catering to the audience that they invited in by designing the games in this way.
>>726350896The casualization was still there in the older games, with the Harder difficulties often being explicitly locked out until you've beaten the game, sometimes several times. What you blame newer games for is the game being honest about some modes being made for casuals and giving options instead of forcing everyone to play the baby modes before they can play the difficulty they actually want.
>>726350316I mean
>>726350508The turnwheel is a worse implementation of what savepoints in FE11 and 12 were trying to do.
What's funny about the Turnwheel is that Echoes was the game to introduce it, while Awakening and Fates, which are blamed for casualization, were actually the hardest games in the series
The turnwheel is fine since you don't have to use it.
>>726339897Also this
>>726350619I was ready to be done with the franchise again if Engage was follow up by an FE4 remake. There's nothing I want less than a retread of a game I've already played.
>>726342061>i'm convinced FE fags are actual bots. Beep for me.The Marianne and Lysthia bots
>>726342974She literally stole my heart!
>>726351838>Automatically pops up on death>Infects the non casual modes>At least 1 game is designed around itThose are the issues I have with it
>>726351189You're missing the point here, anon. This isn't about what specific game difficulty the devs expect you to play in, it's about how the games are designed as a whole, specifically in regards to its units. Would you reset for random knight #4, who doesn't have any dialogue beyond his recruit and death quote, in an older FE, compared to just about any unit in a modern FE, who you've seen potentially hours of in supports, and invested who knows how many resources on leveling, reclassing, inheriting skills, and who knows how many other things? It isn't a surprise people would naturally be less willing to let go of the latter. Again, the erosion of permadeath as a core FE mechanic is a simple consequence of the increased focus on the games' casts, with all the extra fluff added in an attempt to make everyone seem more unique and like someone you might actually care about. You can have whatever opinions on this shift in design choice you want, but the effects are undeniable.
>>726345283>fat that needed trimmed.But muh faithful remake…
>>726345861>The fact that later entries went full unity style 3D graphics instead of the nice sprite work gives me even less of a reason to check them out, because when you’re missing one of the few redeeming qualities to your series, what on earth do you have left?It literally stopped being sprite work the second it didn't have to be.
>>726345861>The fact that later entries went full unity style 3D graphics instead of the nice sprite work gives me even less of a reason to check them out, because when you’re missing one of the few redeeming qualities to your series, what on earth do you have left?They hated you for dropping the truth nuke
>>726346073
>>726346935Beautiful TikiNow do Sheeda prease
>>726352667>>726352782You're not wrong but the sad truth is that the games would not sell as well if they stuck to sprites. If 3H was fully sprite based, it would have done around Triangle Strategy numbers.
Celicat
awakening was the only relay game with a certain JE NE SAIS QUOI. the others were all boring cheatfest lets plays
>>726353265Sir, that Caeda is already colored.Here, have this Caeda II that I colored.
>>726353718cute
Do you guys think if Marth got in Smash 64 back in 1999 would it have resulted in Binding Blade getting localized due to the earlier interest in Fire Emblem? Or would it still have to depend on Advance Wars?Also Excitebiker instead of Ice Climbers would’ve been funny.Source: https://youtu.be/DCpUqAgzomE?si=3PuOGw3tXZBnW7ot
If je ne sais quoi is what you call never finishing it, I guess that relay was certainly something.
>>726353984Sorry, I forgot to quote you >>726353760
>>726342680>This is why FE is generally unpopular among tbsfags.Absolutely. Fire Emblem can be a little bit overwhelming if you're used to other SRPG games. Perhaps anon would have been better served by something a bit more casual, relaxed, laid back and easy.
>>726354480You aren't me faggot.
>>726348704>would expect you to go along with any unit dying like they don't matterNo, it expects you to go along with any unit dying like it does matter.>pass over the fact a single unit death means hundred of dialogues you'll never read.Fire Emblem at it's heart isn't about completion-ism like this. The series works better when you realize you can't get everything you want, as this makes the things you do get feel more meaningful.
>>726344971If you want to get the best rank, you're not really allowed to spam those since the game saves any deaths that occur without a complete level reset. Obviously not everyone would know this and it makes the game very easy to clear if you don't care about ranks.
>>726345861>Please listen to my whining and how the games should cater to me even though I couldn't even beat FE7 on Eliwood Normal after looking up dozens of hours of guide videos and walkthroughsUh how about no?
>>726344971just turn it off in the settings
>>726353718Haven't played Gaiden/Echoes but I occasionally see posts that basically boil down to calling her NTRbait. Is this true?
>>726355340
>>726356772?You're the one who said not being able to beat Eliwood Normal was giving you a le heckin anxiety attack lol. Did you forget your own post already? No wonder you struggle to beat Fire Emblem and lash out.
>>726356747Kinda. Not really. She never really teases the idea of dating anyone but Alm, but her story path is full of doujin scenarios.
You softlocked on RD when they killed Fiona the shitter two times on your ironmans kek.
>>726356747Yes, Celica is the pilgrimage bicycle
>>726357045I've never played an Ironman. Especially not on here. Swing and a miss.
>>726357045Do you not know what a softlock is? What you just described would be called "losing".
>>726357119>Do you not know what a softlock isI'm starting to think he doesn't since he thinks you can softlock in FE7 just because you "trained the wrong units"
>>726356747I think the meme just started because Celica's army is full of hunky older men. The only real NTR in Echoes is Faye getting cucked.
You softlocked in shartcia too or did you forget to open FE WoD too?
Vestaria saga is too harddddddddd
le sofloc chapter 13 3h
>>726357376>>726357447Uh oh melty.
>>726354902>No, it expects you to go along with any unit dying like it does matter.But for the game, any unit dying does not matter. For you the player it might but for the game it doesn't. No one but the main duo matters in the story and only them dying triggers a game over. Your own kid can fucking die from a random ruffian and Robin will not acknowledge it at all in either gameplay or story.
>>726341603Late to this, but you honestly weren't bullied enough for this, faggot. These games are overwhelmingly beatable on 0% growths. You're just whining because you can't grind at the bottom of it, and grinding has always been THE absolute worst feature of the RPG genre - the shit ass, no-skill, time-wasting, brain-draining grinding. Every role-playing game that disallows, disincentivizes, or punishes grinding is immediately 2 points better on a 10-point scale.
>>726354902There’s some truth to this, I hate how “Ironman” is a thing when Ironman mode is just how the series is supposed to be and played with. If you lose something, like a unit or village you’re supposed to move on and use the next unit you get as a replacement. Resetting after a unit dies is mega gay and beats the purpose of permadeath
>>726357686A bit unrelated but I've been playing FF4 The After Years recently and that game at least puts level caps on how much you can grind until you get to the endgame. That was a nice surprise at least.
>>726341603They hated him because he told the truth
>>726357869>Resetting after a unit dies is mega gay and beats the purpose of permadeathNo it doesn't, retard. If you make a mistake and end up getting someone killed, you have to redo the entire chapter and play better to avoid that happening next time. That's obviously not a desirable outcome to any player, so there's tension in avoiding unit deaths as you play. If your units just came back the next chapter, you could just treat them disposably and face no issues.
>>726357869>Ironman is the intended wayNo.
That retard Mangs managed to beat Revelation on Lunatic without Xander or Takumi. And he beat Birthright after losing Ryoma. So if he can beat a game suboptimally without certain carry units, anyone can. Being unable to do so is admitting you're dumber and less able to play Fire Emblem than a bald mongoloid youtuber.
>>726312282Is Echoes actually good? I hear very opposing opinions but I adore the artstyle and the music is good too.
>>726357991Sad samefagging after getting BTFO by like a dozen people.
>>726357869Even kaga knows everyone resets
This is where FE peaked.
>>726358047>No it doesn't, retard. If you make a mistake and end up getting someone killed, you have to redo the entire chapter and play better to avoid that happening next time.Shitty argument, your only “punishment” for losing a unit is wasting your time redoing the map but at the end you’ll keep the unit you lost. If you continued without resetting and lost a good unit the game becomes a completely harder experience as you won’t have that strong unit anymore.
>>726358135Someone already asked this earlier, scroll up.
>>726358149FE sucks
>>726358239...if you're too shit to beat FE7 on Eliwood Normal
>>726358119Mangs is just putting on a show for people to think that he's stupid.
>>726358285Holy projecting
>>726358135It's a very faithful remake of a NES game so the gameplay is very janky at times. Personally I like it but it gets painful in the last few chapters.
crit animations peaked with the snes and gba era
>>726358306This was 2016 Mangs before he was putting on the act.
>>726358306>can't even get past the NES games in his full series ironman after multiple attemptsyeah no he just sucks
>>726358223>your only “punishment” for losing a unit is wasting your time redoing the mapWhy in quotation marks? You got punished for your mistake by redoing the chapter because you valued the unit you lost above your own time, yes. If the unit wasn't that valuable, you can continue without them and probably be fine. It's an interesting dilemma that most people prefer to strict ironman rules.
>>726358306>>726358392>act
>eceleb talkHoly parasocial
>>726358334>Doesn't actually know what softlocking means>Doesn't know what projecting meansKeep going.
>>726358306>for people to think that he's stupid>thinkThat implies he's just pretending to be retarded. He IS genuinely stupid at FE, he just purposefully plays into it because it's more entertaining and what his fanbase has grown to expect out of him.
>>726358385how is berwick/tearring saga animations
>>726358418I don't think it's all an act but he does play it up a little bit. He's not AS dumb as he portrays himself. Still not very bright though.
>>726357869Losing an unit permanently just gatekeeps you from additional gameplay and lore. If you lose half the cast, you lose half the game.For your subsequent runs it isn't a problem but for your first run you can only feel robbed by and of the game.>Damn this character was so fucking cool and had so much funny lines I wish I could have in my first run instead of losing him from a RNG crit>Damn this girl was so hot and strong to play I wish I could have used her in my first run instead of now for my 12th run of the gameFE characters are simply too good and valuable to be treated as mere units, they are the exact opposite of DD's heroes in that sense. No wonder it spawned a gacha.
>>726358392>>726358418Cope.>>726358404Post your ironman clears.
>>726358464>he thinks I'm his boogeyman Keep projecting schizo
>>726358501tearring is serviceable, but berwick has some really nice animationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCUjH4LWYJU
>>726358436Fe fags love e celebs
>>726358501
>>726358561here's me beating FE12 on H4mangs blows ass at FE
>>726358404He did have to cheat for FE7 which is pretty sad. Also got his entire army killed and subsequently game overed in the easiest CQ chapter in the game (ch 9).
>>726357336>The only real NTR in Echoes is Faye getting cucked.So he friendzones the childhood friend that singlehandedly murders half of Rigel's army solely for him and is consistently the MVP of every battle but when the Pegasus Knight he met a week ago says the funny haha salutation word he gets all blushy-crushy? There really is no justice on Valentia.
>>726358647>H4Doesnt count sorry.
>>726358135Why did you cut Celica from the picture?
>>726358647Not lunatic reverse
>>726358746Isn't H4 Lunatic reverse?
>>726358746Can't tell if baiting or just retarded.
>>726358578>>726358639not bad, if only kaga had a budget again and maybe make his games more iron man friendly
>>726358750Celica's thighs
>>726358654For someone to be "cucked", they'd have to be in a relationship first.
>>726358920Anyone having sex with anyone other than me is NTR
>>726357686This, grinding basically exists as a byproduct for rpgs wanting characters to scale as you progress through the game. Purposefully scaling yourself over the game is basically saying that you suck too much to beat the rpg at a normal progression
Whichever you want just know this: No one hates the FE fandom than the FE fandomThere are 3 types of players: the ones that play casually, the (pseudo) hardcore ones who try to play it with permadeath but always reset when someone dies and the ultra hardcore who not only play with permadeath but negative stats growthPlay however you want
>Nooooooooo you can't just do whatever you want ahhhhFE fags in charge of not being subhuman Play a real strategy game
>>726358119Mangs cheats his runs, so I don't value his runs at all
I hate fire emblem
I love Fire Emblem.
>>726359083>Play a real strategy gameSuch as?
Fuck off FFT tranny
>>726358971You can grind in FE if you want to. Its just a matter of how degenerate you want to be about it (see Excel).
>>726359235Andaron Saga
>>726359235Chess
Hows playing FE games on Steam deck?
>>726359083Limitation is interesting. I love SRPGs but Fire Emblem is king for a reason.
>>726358920If only doujin artists knew that
>>726359235Pokemon
Pretending FE is some hardcore series when literally nearly every game has built-in cheese methods programmed into them so shitters can still beat them is my favorite meme
>>726348704The topic of permadeath in Fire Emblem is loaded/skewed because people can't help but bring their inherent biases to it. For example, you'll get anons telling you that you were "meant" not to reset upon death in the early Fire Emblem games - either because the rosters were large and the characters were interchangeable, or because of some cherrypicked Kaga (serious creator) quote from an interview where he said don't worry about playing perfectly, or something.The reality is nuanced. Permadeath has been here since the beginning and is sort of grandfathered in, even while IS finds newer and more creative ways to undermine the very idea of it. But the "soft reset" has been here since day 1. So obviously you can't read.It really just comes down to what you want to do nowadays. Some anons like to ironman, some don't. Some play on casual, some play on classic. IS has taken the build-a-bear approach to difficulty and they leave it to you to decide how to play. It does feel especially awful losing a unit in a modern FE for a host of reasons, but some people like to play that way anyway.
>>726359254He completely wasted his time with the Azura shit during the KMUs. I have no idea why he thought he was being smart getting rid of his dancer for a piece of paper kinshi knight with basically no enemy phase. I said this in his chat once and he blew up at me lol.
>>726359235Ludus latrunculorum
>>726359301Maybe the king at being shitBTW the new FE will go back to anyone can class change enjoy wyvern riders cuck
>>726359379>So obviously you can't read.So obviously you can't read into "intentions" or "meant to" very much*
>>726359443I like Wyvern Lords just fine. By the time you can get all of the units who want to be Wyvern Lords into the class you'll be rolling up to the final chapters of whichever route you're playing on. And that's only if you don't care about each unit's individual strengths as the game progresses. You spend 80%+ of any 3H run with units growing through what their proficiency allows.
>>726351565Awakening's not hard
>>726357582>>But for the game, any unit dying does not matter. For you the player it might but for the game it doesn't. You're contradicting yourself. If it matters to the player, it matters period. I do wish there were more reactions to characters dying though. FE9 is the most notable example where this could happen.
Do you want another Warriors game?Who is the cast?
>>726359757>This nigga played on hard
>>726359913I don't want another one if it's going to be like Hyrule Warriors or Fire Emblem Warriors. The fanservice musous suck.
>>726359673>You spend 80%+ of any 3H run with units growing through what their proficiency allowsThat's a funny way of saying Brigand/Mage
>>72635991310 characters from every game minimum.
>>726358223Can you explain to me how resetting in Ch. 10 because Nyx died on the last turn isn't objectively harder than just letting her die? Do you think I use Nyx after that map? That's something you plausibly have to do if you're trying to play perfectly. Ironmanfags are always sloppy players who can't do math.
>>726318238He raped a woman
>>726359969No, I'm just not for this forced meme that Awakening is hard. It's one of the easiest games in the series apart from 3 chapters on one meme difficulty.
>>726360031>the entire Fates cast is just Corrin, Azura, and the royalsGay.
Fire emblem was never hard
These threads sure do attract a lot of butthurt, jealous SRPGfags lately.
>>726360065>Letting Nyx dieI seriously hope you guys don't do this
>>726360328Not until she pops out Nina, at least
>>726360262Then why am I always so hard whenever I play it?
>FE IS GOO-ACK
>>726360328Nope, always need for her to get mating press
>>726360294I hate Fire Emblem but I hate other rpgs even more
>>726360294I like other RPGs and I hate Fire emblem more
>>726360294They scatter like roaches when you ask them to name a better SRPG though, every single time.
Meme seriesYou have to be a tendie to enjoy this trash
AW > FE
why play heroes when you can emulate all the games on your phone?
>>726359379I just find it funny how some people here try to act like Dark Souls bros copying their “you didn’t beat the game” shit if you didn’t play exactly how they played.
>>726360749Heroes is better than oldshit
>>726360572I love Fire Emblem. It's my favorite franchise. If I had to recommend some other SRPGs I like they'd mainly be for how they present their stories and less for their specific gameplay since Fire Emblem beats them all there. Tactics Ogre, Triangle Strategy, and Unicorn Overlord are my favorite you can get on Switch.
>>726360749but thats illegal
>>726360572>Name game>UHH ACTUALLY THEY'RE ALL SHITNot even going to bother with you
>>726360794If I wanted to play tooltip simulator I'd pick modern Yugioh back up.
>>726360983Don’t give Jewtendo any money for renting roms
What an awful thread like always
>>726361020Well obviously if you name something you're going to be expected to be able to defend it logically. I can give many reasons FE is a better strategy franchise than something like Tactics Ogre, for example.
SRPG is a meme genre. Seethe about it, but Fire Emblem is the only good one with an actual cultural footprint. I just play other turn-based games if I want a strategy/tactical fix, because the things that other "SRPGs" are praised for (grinding, buildfagging, lots of arcane stats) are the things I actually hate about almost every other game, and the precise thing that FE avoids.
I suck cock at least once a week AMA
>>726361161How about no? How about you stop seething that people like something that isn't nintendo slop?>>726361232See? This is what I mean. You faggots spend more time seething about the IDEA of people liking something for different reasons you spend more talking about them rather than your OWN series?!Btw the other SRPGfags in question? They don't even think about you
Why does SRPG studio suck bros?
>>726361327>no bully me pls :(>also you faggots fucking suck lolI see you, bitch
>>726361327>Btw the other SRPGfags in question? They don't even think about youHard to believe when they come to our threads for no reason but OK
>>726361327>How about you stop seething that people like something that isn't nintendo slop?When did I seethe? You're the one in a thread for a series you hate. I don't go into TO/FFT threads trying to instigate shit, I just don't play those games because I don't like them.
>>726361327It's okay to not like things. I don't understand why you'd spend an entire evening telling us about it though.
>>726361420They don't FE threads are the textbook case of "trolls trolling trolls" There's no FFTfags or anyone else really. It's just FEfags false flagging
>>726361441Fucking this. I get sick of the chip on the shoulder these inferior fags have. I've never even posted in a TO/FFT thread. I only shit in their mouth when they start pot-stirring in FE threads.
I’m starting to think this SRPG war is one Guy fighting himself to not let this thread die
>>726361327>SpoilerI think the opposite, they can't stop seething about FE while I just want to play and discuss my anime strategy game.
>>726361390>>726361441>>726361478>I don't like thing>Vs >This raped my dog, my mom, my dad etc etcif you can't tell why one is mentally ill more than the other you are hopeless
>>726361441>>726361508Quit lying, you faggots stink up the threads every time when nobody asked
This dude is fucking desperate for (You)s
(you)
>>726359854I get the contradiction, it does sound retarded to claim "the game doesn't care if my unit die but it still is the game's fault if characters I like die and I cant get them back" but all of this just incites me to reset more.I chose to marry Sully, I vividly remember one instance of a level of pure checkmate she'd died in all scenario but one, I reseted until I made the right call to keep her alive. I didn't spent the game grinding and romancing a character for her to fucking die to a random ennemy because of one mistake. Those consequences giga overweights the actual risks taken and I don't want to RP in my head like my wife died like a heroine in a big climatic fight when in reality I just moved 1 square too far and she got raped by 4 ennemies crit.It's my loss but I still feel less cucked than any dude who let their romance pick die and witness Robin alone like a cuck in the epilogue.
How demented do you have to be to hang out in threads for games you don't like? It's unconscionable.
>>726361771People like the games not the posters (ie you)
Other SRPG fags totally don't le care about FE which is why they come to these threads daily to seethe and also to shill their 0 player steam games
>>726361814It's just you seething, pea-brain
you sit in that corner and think about what you've done while i route the rest of this map.
>>726361853Most ass Corrin build award
>>726361850>shill their 0 player steam gamestype fire emblem into the steam game search and see the wonderful indies!
>>726314314The gentleman will apologize and excuse himself.
I love how every thread it’s usually people attacking each other and calling their favorite FE gay but everyone is united against this one fag. It’s charming.
Elvandia Story ironman when?
Shining Force ironman when?
>>726361853stats should've capped at 20~25
Chrom and his daughterwife
>>726361909i feel like unless you pick -anythingbutluck or troubadour talent or something you can't go too wrong
>>726362389I was more joking about how you reclassed to ninja to pick up poison strike and locktouch, two of the least valuable skills in the game.
>>726362453more did it to train up shuriken rank but yeah it does look kinda silly.
>>726341751brother I am going to keep it 100 with you I want Ashe to sit on my face
>>726346204>telliusfagPath of radiance is awakening tier
>>726362389>Troubadour talentThat one is good, it gives you Meido/Butler access
>>726362520Why would you need to train throwing rank? Forged iron dagger is like the best throwing weapon in the game and it's D-rank.
FFT is still better than your shitass baby's first SRPG
>>726316178Yeah it's complete dogshit and the worst of all worlds. Komuroslop, bignumberslop, Gaiden style empty-mapslop, dumbed down mechanics slop, it has everything you could want in a single package
>>726363087What's your favourite FFT map?
>>726363087fft is baby easy.
>>726363118>Buzzword spam(lol
Can they hurry up with the Fortune's Weave news? Engage had it's second trailer by now
>>726358167Peak Cringe alright
>>726358404Like any of you idiots would be able able to get through the NES games without having to reset a few times due to a “Surprise Motherfucker” moment. Also keep in mind Mangs is playing them at 40% speed due to how slow they are.
>>726363205Plz understand, they have to get the game to be in a functional state first
>>726363541Even the cabal of retards in this board was able to beat FE1 with what I'm pretty sure were minimal issues
>>726358436I’ll never understand the bitching and whining over e-celeb talk on here. Like there aren’t tons of other threads doing the same thing. It’s honestly the stupidest thing to bitch about.
>>726363541There is really no excuse for him genociding over 95% of his army on the first run. Even distracted by chat, it just makes no sense. You can buy stat boosters in that game that raise a stat by like 7 points, how the fuck do you do manage to play it so poorly.
>same conversations, same arguments every dayyup, you belong on /vg/
And why are you here? Retard?
>>726358647Based Catria Enjoyer and cool Z-Saber!
>>726358750Celica Thighjob
>>726363541The famicom games really aren't hard. They're some of the few games that we relayed effortlessly, even BR had more deaths.
>>726363642FEsperms forget FE1 is pretty piss easy. Game gives you so much in case you fuck up that I'm pretty sure the only way to make it an actively hard experience is killing off Caeda early on since she is needed for a chunk of recruitments and not getting the Falchion. Even then, if the dumbass Mangs can beat the final chapter without Falchion and heavy casualties, FE1 is a cakewalk. Yet the Awakening babies will foreverly go "Ohhh the clunkiness. Ohhh the old graphics. It is way to hard for me!"
>>726360425Nice Feet
>>726360713GS >AW > FE
>>726362328What is a Daughterwife and can you have one irl?
>>726363817The people in /vg/ rarely ever talk about the games and if they do it's about the damn gacha/v/ is a much better place for game discussion
>>726364092literally no one says FE1 is hard, they just say it's boring as fuck, which it is
>>726362549May Lord Pyrion Bless You Anon
>>726363087>>726354615Thoughts on this image?
>>726312282With Advanced Wars instead
>>726364240The answer is very obvious, anon.
>>726363205I expect the 2nd trailer and release date reveal on the February direct and shortly after that they'll start with the weekly twitter news.
>>726364661You know you dont have to post this in every single thread right?
>>726363325Is it okay to kiss your daughter on the lips as her father? What if she thinks it’s weird or disgusting?
>>726364598Advance Wars is shit desu>Singleplayer is about abusing the retarded cpu>Multiplayer is extreme jank that even the specific community for it struggles to balance
>>726364661Keep posting this in every single thread
>>726364734only reposted it once, calm down bro
>>726364661Who was the mother of the very first Lucina to go back in time though?
>>726363205Maybe they don’t have faith in FW after how terrible Engage did lmao, also imagine paying $70+ for Fire Emblem, couldn’t be me
>>726363325Based
>>726363642>>726363725>>726364046The NES games are so archaic it’s easy to forget some things and going back to an older game after being spoiled by the 2000s or 2010s games with their gameplay refinements.
>>726363205February is along ways away.
I love my wife, Annette.>>726312282I started with Awakening, so that's a good place to start. I enjoyed the following FEs in their own way, so I recommend them. I need to try the older titles.
>>726364967>FE above Metroid Noice I'd say Engage doing badly is what pushed them back to Fodlan
>>726364967>>726365778Seems like it moved up since the last Famitsu poll, it was below Metroid last time.
>>7263654127 and 8 are pretty good and easy to emulate/play on NSO
>>726360459This statement alone caused a breakthrough in the FE fandom’s thought. Led by this genius rhetoric, FE fans brought their inferiority complex to new heights. They were now united as one. The Fire Emblem fans were finally all posting in one thread. They decided to call it - “/vfeg/“.
>>726364937The Future Past timeline is its own thing. Otherwise current timeline baby Lucina would have needed to time travel again to keep the paradox running. So probably whatever female C rank is available or the village maiden.
>FE is the most popular SRPG by far>there are more FFT-like indie clones than FE-like clones>hell, there are even more fucking AW-like indie clones than FE-likes Make it make sense.
>>726366385I believe I have the roms ready on my modded 2DS, it's just a matter of finding the time and interest to do so. My backlog is long.
i'd start with anything between FE6 and Fates. Echoes is too different from every other game3H is the worst game in the series unless you're a fagEngage is better when you've played more other games
>>726366754i played 7 as a little kid but never finished it and never looked more into the series. finally played Awakening this year and then played 10 others after that i'm happy with Awakening as a starting point, liked it enough to marathon most of the series. did it in a weird order but it worked out
>>726366664I'm not part of this discussion, but I do have an actual answer for this.Kaga made an FE clone once, and Nintendo fucking too him to court, so everyone's probably scared of trying.
>>726366883Pokemon has an even more heated legal battleground than FE yet we still see stuff like TemTem and Coromon pop up on Steam.
>>726366664they'd just take the wrong lessons from it anyway since 3H is the most popular game in the series for reasons that have fucking nothing to do with gameplay
>>726366664Fire Emblem is surprisingly hard to make or even copy. The ones that try usually suck dick (i.e. Dark Deity)
>>726367010>most popular franchise ever has like two direct clones>wonders why a niche series like FE has zero>when the latter also has a legal precedent for suing copycatsReminder even Pokemon doesn't sue people over that. The closest we ever got was the Palworld stuff, and that game isn't even a proper clone of Pokemon, it's being sued over Legends Arceus patents.
>>726367172Again, AW is 1000x more niche yet it has more indie clones.
>>726366664>FE is the most popular srpg by farI'd wager that FFT is more popular.
>>726366664It's easier to put a bunch of JRPG mechanics on a shoebox than to design 40 stages and also put a bunch of JRPG mechanics in your game with 40 stages.
>>726367305You wish, FE is the only srpg with even remotely decent numbers. srpgs do not perform well at all
>>726366664I guess most game devs on the west grew up with Final Fantasy Tactics while FE was pretty much irrelevant until Awakening.>>726366883I thought he got in trouble for trying to use FE characters and/or lore in his FE clone.
>>726367279Nintendo has never sued anyone over AW.Once they do, the clones will end.
AW is hard and fog of war levels are mega assFE is a good series and I enjoy several titles in it
We love incest here
>>726367425Awakening is 13 years old, surely by now there should be indie devs using it as inspiration to make FE-likes, right?
>>726367279Turns out writing for like 50+ characters is harder than making a game where all the units are squads of unnamed disposable guys.
>>726363205drink acid
>>726367591AW is less hard than it is horribly designed desu.
>>726367425>I thought he got in trouble for trying to use FE characters and/or lore in his FE clone.Yeah, man. And Nintendo sued Palworld because of "rideable mounts."
>>726367384FFT was popular since its first release. FE only became popular via Awakening.
>>726346073Fatlus Pro here, fuck that, even if I like one dimensional tropey garbage I refuse wholeheartedly to touch Fates/3H/Engayge/Nigger Emblem. I like the manaketes, btw, anyone have any Myrrhs they want to post, folder needs some. Have a Nah.
Here’s your FE clone bro
>I hate Fates because of the one-note tropey characters!>posts Awakening
Looks better than DEI weaves
>>726346073there's literally nothing wrong with Fates. you don't care about the story in FE... do you?
>>726368252based analphabet bro.
framme is my hebe waifu for laifu and she will be a wonderful mother.
>>726368175Looks meh
>>726368175>Erk tryna be a lord
https://youtu.be/i2q4KoNEwc4
>>726371350https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ZKFOhkkUM
