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>and ONLY Nintendo Switch 2
>The long and short of it is this: Square wanted FFXIV on the Switch 2 but it simply can't it without massive slowdown and the next expansion, the most significant engine update in the games history, will make it so it doesn't run on PS4 anymore let alone a Switch 2.
>Instead CBU3 had a meeting with Nintendo that lead to engineers getting the time to check and indeed a version of FFXI Rise of the Zilart was stable and running on the Switch 2 devkits.
>The only reason XI 'ended' so to speak is because Square was down to one PS2 devkit left and that was all the devbuilds ran on. Were that to crap out in the middle of an expansion after taking preorders it would have been a disaster and was sadly considered a situation that would not change. Till now.
>Working with hires from an external studio that were producing a now cancelled mobile remake of XI un unreal engine they have spent the last year creating a devbuild of XI that will be functional, stable and updatable using modern hardware.
>With not wanting to cannibalise their audience on PS5/Xbox playing XIV and the lack of any subscription based software on Switch 2 the choice was made to put to work the development of a remaster of FFXI for the Switch 2. Textures with much higher resolution, updated controls for modern audiences, voice acting and remastered music.
>The game will launch as a remaster of the current game with an expansion in the works to release the year after FFXIV 9.0 with the intention to alternate releases between the two.
>Expect an announcement next year but the fiscal years final earnings call.

Of all the happenings that could be happening i think i expected this the least. But i guess this explains the recent dev comments?
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>ONLY Switch 2
nigga that ain't remotely believable
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who asked for this
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>>726402914
>With not wanting to cannibalise their audience on PS5/Xbox playing XIV
How would that work? Either way they're paying SE
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>>726403395
>Why dont we have a game that charges past the initial box price on switch 2? - John shareholder
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>>726403657
When World of Warcraft brought back its Classic version and then a series of other clients not everyone wanted to play the same version. This meant instead of a single "its this or nothing" option players went where they wanted to most. Which for Retail WoW simply meant players still subbing but not logging into the retail client and the total population went down.
If Square had two FF mmos on PS5 for example what happens if half your free company/linkshell wants to go to XI? sure square gets a sub fee either way but that means an existing product loses players that previously would have stuck with it as the only option. Losing them effects queue times, the economy and so on.
By having two platforms have two seperate games this allows both to exist without mooching as easily off the other. In Theory. I imagine most sickos would simply sub for both and do all the weekly reset shit on one one day and the other another. But thats mmobrain thinking not developer product design thinking.
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>>726402914
>will make it so it doesn't run on PS4 anymore let alone a Switch 2.
Switch 2 is more powerful than ps4
>year after FFXIV 9.0
they will have to start thinking about switch 3 already by then
>updated controls for modern audiences
The audience for such a release wouldn't want that, playing like shit is part of the old school appeal for the retro MMO audience
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>offline ffxi

yay...
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>>726404339
I dunno man when did you last play XI? it was a PS2 game that designed its controller inputs to emulate a keyboard and mouse and now playing it on pc that feels like controls emulating controls emulating pc controls and its just fucking unique to be kind. Console mmos nowadays have a pretty unified control style for the most part across entires in the genre.
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>>726404384
No he means a remaster as a fully functional mmorpg with a sub fee.
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I'm actually surprised XIV isn't on Switch 2 yet, I expected it day 1 and am further surprised by each new event that goes past without it.
CoD too, wasn't it supposed to be a condition of being allowed to be sold to Microsoft that it be on Nintendo platforms for a few years. It was on every Nintendo platform since the DS except for the switches
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>>726404491
>I dunno man when did you last play XI?
like 4 months ago
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>>726404840
and yet you aren't camping Leaping Lizzy for the boots drop right now.
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>>726402914
I only want part of this to be true, and that's that Square is actually using the XI Mobile assets for some type of remake
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>>726402914
try harder with your bait next time
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>>726404904
because I don't play a job that needs them on Horizon
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>>726402914
I'd get it day one
But this is clearly an XI thread bait so fuck you op
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>>726402914
Lol. 2/10
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>>726402914
>xiv
>getting another major update
>this leaking prior to fanfest stuff
Please be even halfway believable next time you giant fag.
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I played every FF game including spinoffs, except 11 and 14.
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>>726405392
>i only want the not dumb parts to be true
brother this is Square Enix.
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>>726402914
>Tendies still DESIRE a ff exclusive for switch 2
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>>726403353
yes it is, square is fucking retarded
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>>726403353
Yes it is they made a fucking monster hunter clone and only put it on fucking 3DS. Square are morons.
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>>726404339
Tendies sound so retarded saying things like "its more powerful than a ps4" as if PS5 doesnt exist. Btw they are cutting XIVs support on PS4 next xpack.
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>>726402914
me when I lie
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>>726406986
You can play XIV's free trial
You should play XI on a private server for the story
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>>726406986
FF9 master-race or FF7 peasant? FF8 fans are Lords under FF9 Monarchs
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>>726402914
Unless XI revamps their UI I'm not interested
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>>726413529
You will get the cancelled mobile game UI with daily login stamps and campaigns.
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>>726413008
I heard no private servers for XI have fully functional story implemented.
Or did one finally spring up.
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>>726406986
XI is a crazy good time, although it's a very user hostile experience compared to other mmos
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>>726413008
XI's story is better played solo with Trusts on retail honestly, it's a lot faster and there's no point where you get brick walled by needing a party like on classic
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>>726414160
They casualised a lot of it so it's super easy mode now.
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>>726413860
if you mean the full story of retail, that's correct
I don't even think there's a feature complete WoTG server
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Don't lie about something I care about, faggot.
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>>726402914
>voice acting
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>>726414292
retail is piss easy now but it's not the worst thing in the world since it has no population anymore
really they should just make an offline version with Trusts and maybe a simulated auction house
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>>726403353
i only believe it because square LOVES to suicidemax
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>>726414236
>brick walled by needing a party
???
it's an MMORPG, how is the intended social function of such games a "brick wall"? that's part of the gameplay
regarding private servers, HorizonXI currently has 1500 players on a work day, which is more than enough to find a party
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>>726414160
>although it's a very user hostile experience compared to other mmos
That's what makes it fun. You're exploring a dangerous world where you have to make friends to get by.
>>726414439
Retail is bumping these days. They had to close character creation on Asura and Bahamut. There are a ton of new people playing for some reason.
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>>726414474
Horizon is also a dead end shithole though
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>>726414474
when you're waiting around to continue the story because you're looking for a LB2 party for days on end you'll understand what i mean
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>>726402914
>Square wanted FFXIV on the Switch 2 but it simply can't it without massive slowdown and the next expansion, the most significant engine update in the games history, will make it so it doesn't run on PS4 anymore let alone a Switch 2.
How the fuck can you "update" that piece of potato to not work on PS4 anymore?
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>>726414392
>DROP KICK ROIGHT TO YA FAT 'ED!
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>>726415225
>TAKE DAT
>AN WUN O THOSE
Her Dissidia actress was already perfect, how did they rape her so badly?
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>>726414292
Where do you put the difficulty? On having to grind 30 hours to get to lvl 20 or what? Do you think grinding or speaking to people to make a party is difficult? Nigger that's not difficult at all. It's just the usual RPG bullshit.
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Lol. The fantasies of nintendies are hilarious.
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>>726414935
By ending official support for the PS4 just like they did Windows 10
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>>726415431
They always shitpost se and capcom unless they make something exclusive for nintendo
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>>726414935
The next expansion is PS5 only, PS4 is already restricting stuff like the PS3 was in Heavensward.

t. played on a PS3 and Void Ark speedruns had the console stroking out.
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Literally impossible
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYDFWrvEL7k
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>>726415334
>NO' BAD NO' BAD AD'ALL!
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>>726415641
Memoro de la stono is my favourite Final Fantasy song.
https://files.catbox.moe/3m5ver.m4a
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>>726402914
As a singleplayer game right?
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>>726415620
Times have finally changed
>https://www.thegamer.com/final-fantasy-11s-latest-string-of-sweeping-changes-is-proof-the-game-will-never-die/
>With all these programming swaps comes the opportunity for truly monumental tweaks: new zones are now possible for the first time in a very long time indeed. You see, previously, whenever Final Fantasy 11 added a new area, it had to remove another. This has been the case for ages, because the game hit its "cap" for the old dev kits so many years ago. Whenever old content is removed from an online game, fans are understandably miffed (unless it seriously sucked, I suppose), so bypassing this opens a plethora of opportunities for the leads to imbue FF11 with genuinely new experiences.

Group finder confirmed, new expansions confirmed. XI bros we have not been this back in 4 console generations.
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Why would anyone play an inferior game? We ALL like FFXIV. It’s the world’s greatest and most popular MMO with unlimited evergreen content and if you disagree, you’re that one guy who liked FF15 a few years ago. No one’s playing this dogass shit. Will it even have mod support?
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>>726415620
>FFXI devs just announced they suddenly have a new budget and are preparing for major updates such as playonline decoupling and new expansions
>Naoshi Mizuta did music for the latest XIV patch meaning he's with CS3
>FFIX concept artist, who also worked on XI, confirmed to now be with CS3
>FFXI raid in XIV and discounted sub clearly trying to get people to look at it
It might actually be happening XIbros...
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>>726415972
>>726416138
SHUT THE FUCK UP NO WAY
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>>726415972
IMPOSSIBRU..
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>>726415972
>>726416138
I might actually start playing the game if they fix the GODAWFUL UI and remove the tumor that is playonline, if they actually start adding some challenge back into the game and make the early game more interesting XI might actually have a chance to reignite its spark considering just how successful both Classic wow and OSRS have been.
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>>726416732
The UI is kino tho.
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>>726415972
I don't believe it. I'm reading it, its legit. But i just don't believe it. After all this time?
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>>726416772
No its not
stop the cope
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>>726416732
Removing PlayOnline is a necessity if they want it to do well, if for some reason OP isn't being a fag then they probably have to if they want to do a Switch 2 release.
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>>726416772
The Ui is Windows 95 via the medium of 1998 sega arcade machine.
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>>726416138
>discontinued sub
Wait what
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>>726416879
Read >>726415972 5 days ago they specifcally talked about finally being able to deal with Playonline in relation to XI due to the new devkits.
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>>726406986
XIV ARR is literally free and completely soloable, no reason not to try it.
XI has a free login campaign if you own the game about every 2-3 times a year that lasts for two weeks at a time. You can play during that time period and complete everything.

The only reason why you couldn't play it to completion is that you're afraid.
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>>726416772
>Doing even basic group content needs you to learn how macros works and then it forces you to make a FUCKTON of them using a keyboard that is emulating a dinput controller that is emulating a keyboard
No, your delusional, even if you somehow like this shit the UI is just impossible to read on any modern resolution.
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>>726416945
Discounted. They made XI cheaper right now to get people back in EVEN THOUGH AT LEAST ONE SERVER IS FUCKING FULL 24/7

FUCK OFF BACK TO SHIVA OR WHATEVER YOU FUCKING PARASITES RRREEEEEEE
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>>726402914
>switch controllers can function as a mouse
Oh fuck
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>>726415972
I don't get it, will it be single player?
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>>726416920
yes he just said it was kino you didn't have to reiterate
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>>726415972
>Right now, the team is working to permit players to increase trusts' stats once you've hit max level. This will help to keep them competitively on-par with human allies for a broader swath of the game's myriad content, and the changes are en route for March of next year. At an undisclosed future date, we'll even be able to upgrade trusts' spells and abilities.
What the fuck, are they going to let you do everything with Trusts eventually?
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>>726417062
>he's playing with keyboard
There's your problem.
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>>726417157
No they are just going to remaster the current game and put it on switch/pc without the current play online horseshit.
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>>726416732
playonline is fucking sovl incarnate of the highest degree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6mxRUKehtE
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>>726417217
For casuals yes. But everyone knows the real sicko endgame is the economy and NM camping.
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>>726403657
Op is a fucking retard is why
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>>726402914
I have never seen a real leak where they explain in rigorous detail why they made the leaked thing the way they did
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>>726416875
>>726416920
It's just Final Fantasy
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>The only reason XI 'ended' so to speak is because Square was down to one PS2 devkit left and that was all the devbuilds ran on.
Is this shit AI generated? what the fuck
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>>726417272
The music is
Everything else, not so much
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>>726417218
No, I actually followed someone elses suggestion and used a controller, but that just removes one emulation step, you are still playing with a controller that acts like its a fucking keyboard
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>>726402914
you got any actually interesting SE leaks too?
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>>726417246
So they will add some trust system like 14 or something?
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>>726406217
Reminder they did this shit saying EW was the last update and going into maintenance mode . Just legitimately schizophrenia
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>>726402914
>Only switch 2
Smart way to have nintendies shill your game for free kek
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>>726417468
How can they add something that XI has already had for years before Kusoge XIV did?
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>>726417382
it makes sense, XI was i think the last project Square worked on before the merger happened and SE are about a fraction as competent as their predecessors
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>>726417468
Yeah they miraculously copied FFXIV and implemented trusts 15 years ago.
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>>726417375
having to
>Highlight NPC
>Open Menu
>Select Trade
>Select the trade window
>Go to the item
>Select the item
>Select ok
Is not good. Its just not. If the KB/M was actually usable, being able to right-click the NPC and select trade would be a million times easier
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>>726417591
>>726417637
I don't know, I never played xi or 14, only read about it in 14
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>>726417382
xi was in fact ran off ps2 dev kits but i think they kept dying so they had 1 singular one left for a while now.
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>>726417142
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>>726417468
it was there before xiv
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>>726417374
How quickly people forget all the Shadowlands shitshows with WoW.
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>>726417142
XI barely needs to use the mouse, it's more of a keyboard game. I remember only playing it with a keyboard on a ps2.
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>>726417382
This is 100% true and a known fact for like a decade. They designed XI on PS2 devkits, sony stopped making them, they started breaking down and the PS3 devkit was a fucking alien by comparison so they shelved it to start fresh with FFXIV 1.0.
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>>726415972
So no mmo?
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>>726417382
Some people don't know but XI was made for the PS2 not PC. PC version came after.
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>>726417980
Yeah they are just making trust stronger for the console retards.

I mean who do you think the trusts in XIV exists for?
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>>726417753
Also, fun fact about the lore of Trusts. They have all the memories of the person they copy but are essentially a new being. As of RoV they in lore were looking to find a way to merge the memories of the trusts back to the original. So that way the person can retain all the memories of adventures or other things that the trust did.
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>>726418042
Yeah but support ended in 2016, Vana'diel was already pc only
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>>726418127
>They have all the memories of the person they copy but are essentially a new being
Yet you still can't date them
Why...
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>>726418127
That is fucked up
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>>726418241
If you're a degenerate, that means you could be fucking a 1:1 copy of say, Arciela. And the real one would never know.
But knowing the slampig, she'd probably be into it
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>FF XIV on fucking mobile, but not on Switch 2

What the fuck?
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>>726418170
They still used the ps2 devkits to make content and then port it to pc. Its retarded but thats square for you.
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>>726418476
Does this have an actual source or it's some Uncle works at Nintendo hearsay
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>>726418475
Holy shit I forgot about it, what happened to ffxiv mobile for global?
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So what's the average FFXI player like ? I'm guessing japanese salary man in his 40s.
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i would play mmos IF they were just a single purchase + expansions
i don't want to pay a subscription
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>>726418575
it was mentioned in a recent developer interview I believe
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>>726417814
For real, it's like everyone collectively developed amnesia after Dragonflight dropped. Shadowlands was a dumpster fire from the covenant system to that godawful Maw zone, and don’t even get me started on the borrowed power BS. People were quitting in droves, and now suddenly it’s “WoW is back!” the moment they announce player housing. Give it another expansion, they'll mess it up again like clockwork.
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>>726418590
it bombed in CN so its very unlikely it will show up in the west
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>>726418590
They released it in China, which was I suspect is the main demographic they are going for with XIV mobile. No news on global
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>>726415972
>The gamer article
ai slop
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>>726418575
Not that anon, but I can back up what he said, as a retail player myself. The former director Matsui-P announced it in the official forums or on a PlayOnline message, I forget which.
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>>726418428
>Game that's like 2 decades old has better cutscene animations than XIV
you cant make this shit up
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>>726416013
your containment thread is in >>>/vg/
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>>726419059
i've noticed that a lot of the shitposting in ffxiv threads calm down when ffxi is mentioned. care to elaborate?
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>>726419018
The reason is XIV uses motion capture and stock animations. XI is all hand modeled, each movement was positioned that way by an animator.
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>>726419168
so basically artistry vs slop
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>>726419168
Posting these cutscenes reminds me of people hyping up how much "better" XIV 1.0's cutscenes were. When the reality there was only about a dozen of them when the game launched, and that's all 1.0 had. A few fancy cutscenes and levequests. No content.
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FFXI is so fucking peak. No MMO world will match it.

>>726418708
I've been playing it off and on since launch, so yeah that age is about right. Most recent time I played a few years ago, half my linkshell were parents.
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>>726419059
>Unless they release a ffxiv version for switch 2
Obvious nintendo marketer is obvious
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>>726419158
You'd think folder dumper would schizo about FFXI considering it's part of Business Unit 3, and who manages that? Yoshi-P. And who pushed for the XI crossover alliance raid? Hmm. Hmmm, makes you think.
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>>726419316
getting into the alpha for 1.0 is the most disappointing vidya moment of my life. the beta for pso2 is up there too but nothing will beat the disappointment of 14 1.0.
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>>726419207
That's not to say that XIV's animation can't be enjoyable, especially with context. Like Emet's wave during Seat of Sacrifice.
But XI's are all made to emphasize each scene because that's all they add besides dialog by Koji Fox.
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>>726419316
It had it's moments.
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>>726419440
Yeah, 1.0 needed a few more years in the oven.
At the very least to reduce the fucking copy-paste of the maps.
And to reconsider the "No AH, player Vendor NPCs!" idea.
And the trillion polygon potted plants...


Instead, they rushed it out to "compete" with a WoW expansion, in an era before WoW had fully shat itself.
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>>726418708
Asura server was built up to be a cesspool by previously being inhabited by 4channers and e-celebs with their fans. Odin server is Japanese-only culture. Everywhere else is filled with established Linkshell cliques and multi-boxers playing with themselves, with some rare weirdos helping new players that beg in shouts just for a chance to show off their endgame gear to someone who might care and think they are cool.
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>>726418717
>>726418954
There's no fucking way this is true but I really really wish it was.
FFXI is peak.
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>>726402914
>and only Switch 2
You're fucking retarded if you think Square would give up the chance to have the entire mainline series on ps5/xbox x just because the switch missed out on 14. timed exclusive like the new remaster of yakuza 0 at best
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>>726416013
>>726419059
Very organic. I also love to larp as a fanboy to BTFO myself
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>>726419430
That's because nintendoomers are waiting to see if the rumour is real
If it comes to pc and others but no switch 2 you will get your nintendies jeet shitposting every xi remaster thread
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>>726419829
everyone knows you can't get an ff11 thread going unless you trash talk ff14. just like worlo threads
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>>726402914
>With not wanting to cannibalise their audience on PS5/Xbox playing XIV
nigger, they still sell this on steam despite 14 existing.
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I don't really think a new expansion for XI personally would be good. If this report is true, a port would be good enough. Preferably an offline version. Mainly because TVR was a decent book end of XI. Wrapping up seemingly most loose ends.
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>>726419978
An offline version would be amazing. I loved the Delkfutt's Tower part of Stranger of Paradise.
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>>726419978
Is there a decent youtube playlist for TVR? I don't want to resub to finish it.
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>>726419978
You already forgot about visiting Rhazowa and the Mithra empire?
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if this is true I buy a switch 2 and become a tendie
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How many people even still play 11? As if any of them are going to go buy a Switch 2.
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>>726419168
>>726419207
>hurr motion capture isn't real animation
tism
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>>726420127
i'm pretty sure you can still play it on pc. if that wasn't the case, the current player base would riot.
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>>726419919
The anti trails schizo also disappeared when they thought trials remake was switch only
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>>726420124
I didn't forget. It's why I said, "most"
>>726420105
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjoexH4AFvLYSR3JqI_iK91S4ixL0DunL
I'm sure I'm missing stuff in this playlist, but it's mainly because I'm stuck on a fight, lol.
>>726420173
Never said it wasn't.
>>726420127
"Just get a Steam Deck" or something like that
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>>726420173
It's not.
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>>726419158
>>726419423
>>726419829
>xivtroons
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>>726419978
They could do a horizontal expansion. Instead of a new level cap grind a new location with the current cap but different weapon/gear and maybe new jobs.

Shit imagine if they add Machinist or Pictomancer.
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>>726417626
god, you're retarded
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>>726420163
They literally had to lock a server because it was too full not long ago.
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>>726420513
Backporting Picto would be pretty rad, not gonna lie.
And expansions like RoV & TVR didn't raise the cap, they just made more powerful weapons and upgrades. For example, it's impossible to continue TVR unless you get the weapon tier they added
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>>726420173
MoCap has consistently been terrible for over four decades.
No improvement in technology prevents it from being so.
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>>726420507
t. Splatroon forcing this meme against every other mp game
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>>726420513
PUP is already the better Machinist.
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>>726420513
They would probably add Alchemist first, since Monberaux “teased” it.
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>>726420662
I have never played splatoon
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>>726420513
>XI gets Reaper and Gunbeaker
>They might even give us Viera
stop my penis can only get so hard!
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>>726420507
Will you use this shame propaganda if they release a version for switch 2?
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>post-ToAU FFXI
{Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.}
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>>726420963
yes
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>>726420916
>XI adds Viera and Hrothgar
>Hats from day one
>yfw?
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>>726420963
They will do so just for a few threads to save face but they will obviously stop just like the anti y0 schizo ruining every fucking yakuza thread stopped as soon as they announced the directors edition switch 2.
You can bet if XI remaster doesn't come to s2 they will doompost it to death too
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>>726403353
I thought as you did anon.

But as a Switch lite owner, my second thought was "This is literally the only thing that could get me to buy a Switch 2".

So are we SURE about that?
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>>726421012
I understand why you'd stop, but the stuff after as far as story is really good.
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>>726421172
They will bait with switch 2 to get tendies free advertising and then release it on everything
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>>726421093
>lowpoly 2001 Viera
muh dik
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XI is one of the most beautiful games ever made and I never, ever want to see a buttfuck ugly "remaster" of it come into fruition so long as I live.
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>>726402914
source?
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guess i'll be buying a switch 2 then
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will there ever be peace between XI and XIV
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>>726421651
XI's artstyle is so much fucking better than XIV's it's unreal
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>>726421012
Robbing yourself of the Sandy and Windy WotG storylines and the exploration of SoA over being too gay to act normal in public and pay the sub fee is crazy work.
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>>726421691
We must make ammends...
We are all the children of Squaresoft.
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>>726421691
Only if they keep their egos in check. I enjoy both, so it's whatever.
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>>726421012
dumb pserver nigger
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>>726421723
true facts
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>>726421691
I like both
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>>726402914
>the most significant engine update in the games history
this is how you know it's fake
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>>726402914
This anon just copied the reddit post and added ONLY FOR SWITCH 2 lmao
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>>726402914
>sub-based MMO exclusive to switch 2
>will receive constant support pulling from the team making content for a separate MMO that has a much higher userbase
0/10 because you could have said anything involving FFXI and it would get replies.
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>>726421651
No need to, it will come to pc too, op is a fucking liar
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>>726402914
Monsutaman never said it was exclusive
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>>726421651
God damn it
GOD DAMN IT
they got me again i cant see dark elvaan booty in HD and not simp!
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>>726422031
where this reddit post?
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>>726422118
The FFXI team has existed as part of CBU3 for like 5 years unc san.
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>>726403395
FFXI retail still pulls a profit after all these years
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>>726422521
I think he is talking about this thread (look for old version to see the non deleted post)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxi/comments/1ozo55n/future_plans_major_update_newest_freshly_picked/

They are obviously making some plans for it but it was never stated it was going to be console exclusive
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>>726422521
There isn't one its an ironic pasta.
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>>726414160
the main shit is the UI since it hasn't been updated at all, but it is one of the few games that works really well using keyboard-only controls. it's unforgiving compared to WoW since quests don't give anything but money usually (sometimes items)
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>>726422625
>(look for old version to see the non deleted post)
i have no idea how to use reddit, what does this mean?
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>>726414523
>dead end
there's 1600 people online right now and it regularly goes over 2k on the weekends

they are still "working" on ToAU but Horizon is the best private server regardless
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>>726415972
this says nothing about anything about the Switch 2 and only that they are basically upgrading the backend for the game to allow for new zones and items
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>>726414474
>>726414523
>>726422929
SE needs to shut down all pservers
Come play retail.
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>>726417218
i play FFXI only on keyboard and have 0 issues. it just takes time to learn
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will old characters be able to transfer to this 'remaster' ? Should we go back to Vanadiel now or just wait a little bit longer?
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>>726418715
it's $12/month? how is this expensive? hundreds of hours of content for $12 lol
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i just want them to include the ffxi sub with the ffxiv sub like blizzard does with retail and classic wow
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>>726423410
That'd be nice
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>>726423364
Come home.
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>FFXI and Guild Wars could both be getting a breakthrough chance at a facelift back into some level of development relevancy
00's MMO players are winning pretty hard in this cursed timeline somehow and I'm truly happy for them, nice things should happen more often.

>>726423165
Evil woman SEX
SEX with this evil woman
PROCREATION for morally dubious adult female
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>>726423165
the gear and knowledge expectations are too much on retail
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>>726422031
using ffxi for console warring is fucked up. what the fuck is wrong with our nintendo fanboys?
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>>726423410
That’s not going to happen because the (((higher ups))) at SE are only begrudgingly keeping the game alive because multiboxers and RMT print them infinite profits.
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>>726423586
Also Mabinogi is getting an UE5 engine upgrade
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>>726423410
won't happen. how will they charge 30 dollars a month for people then?
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>>726423586
>>726423807
Millenial Uncs we are so back.
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>>726423807
I completely forgor about that one, true.
Oldheads are going to be eating incredibly well.
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>>726423556
im giving it some consideration
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I like separate subs because it filters out faggot influencers and tourists
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>>726424073
kys faggot
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Why are we pretending this is real
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>>726424117
Just let us have this.
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>>726424117
Because shit is actually going down and square needs money.

-also i want to play FFXI in bed on my switch 2 like an absolute comfort daimyo.
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>>726424390
>square needs money
>switch exclusive
this will make them next to no money
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>>726424390
>-also i want to play FFXI in bed on my switch 2 like an absolute comfort daimyo.
you need a keyboard to play FF XI properly
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>>726424460
Square is basically the padding/insulation of nintendos hardware libraries since like the Super Nintendo lil cuz
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>>726424390
good news, anon. you can do that right now
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>>726421691
The early players of XIV, especially on 1.0 either knew of someone that played XI or played XI themselves.
I jumped into XIV from 1.0 myself, but everyone I made friends with all played XI. Still know some people this day that did.
I never got into it, but I always loved the aesthetic and how the jobs were. I wish XIV's lore/worldbuilding kept what it was building from 2.0 to 4.0 to be more like XI, and less like "member berries" and "crossover slop".
I actually have a character on Asura too that I tried once back then.
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>>726424117
Consider the circumstances
Interest in XI has increased in the last year or two, square is desperate and developer interviews have explained an improvement in the development environment that can let them get away from the shackles of the last working PS2 devkit.
While OP's situation might not be real there is enough circumstantial evidence that supports something coming down the pipeline as a realistic possibility.
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>>726424117
Some changes happening to FFXI are confirmed, including new content and group assist. >>726415972 (also https://youtu.be/QDAgAdPN01A?t=8285 )

I highly doubt it'd be Switch 2 only but there is something happening in the future.
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>>726424476
Switch has a touch screen for keyboards and joycon 2 is a mouse.
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>>726424117
Because there's other related news that indicates something is happening.
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even in a perfect world where they recreate FFXI up to TOAU flawlessly, it would still be an absolute garbage experience because public chat would just be filled with merc spam 24/7, everyone would be multiboxing, botters would ruin the economy, and Square wouldn't do a single thing to fix any of it
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>>726424096
Commit or get lost. I never want to see XI turned into one of your gay little "aestheticc" trinkets and/or associated with some kiddie diddler on tiktok.
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I think the future of gaming is putting MMOs on tablets, so people can play them lying in bed and the like.
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>>726424727
you are insecure
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>>726418476
Good lord, kek.
This is so retarded that I CAN believe they would make it Switch 2 exclusive (+PC).
Thinking about it, since XIV is on PS5/Xbox, it wouldn't compete with itself, so it's not as retarded as it looks.
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>>726424609
>buttons that close to edge of shell
>shaped like the tony hawks ride controller
>sounds like a jet engine
pcbro you have no power here. return to putting your 2 inch mexican chode on that slimy screen for your general containment threads.
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>>726424476
you don't necessarily NEED a keyboard. 11 was on 360 and works fine with a controller
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>>726421172
Why would THAT make you buy a Switch 2?
Genuine question, because you could just run this game on Steam Deck couldn't you?
Playonline might be the only issue, but idk.
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>>726424726
so like it is now
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>>726424817
kek im not the dick on deck homo, i dont even own a steam deck. was just saying you can have that right now and not wait for OP's obvious bait to never come true
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>>726402914
>they are now finally moving on from ps2 devkits
>singleplayer version ANY time soon
Lmaooooooooo
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>>726424851
Apparently the new devkits let them end the tyranny of playonline. Finally we's be free brudda.
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>>726424928
you're lying
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>>726424994
I know its hard to believe but its actually happening >>726415972

The evil has been defeated.
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>>726415972
>bypassing play online
>bypassing fucking ps2 dev kits
>trusts will be increased in strength in march
Okie dokie. I guess I'm resubbing. Kind mad I missed the mog bonanza weapon now though.
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>>726424789
No need to out yourself as one of them any further
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>>726421885
nope, just someone who didn't miss the boat. From what I've heard no Private Server even has ToAU fully functioning, no Chocobo Raising, Nyzul and Assaults in general held by glue, and PUP not even functioning correctly
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>>726424994
Private servers have been bypassing PlayOnline for a while now, Square can break those shackles too if they want.
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>>726425052
>>726425253
i'll remain suspiciously optimistic
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>>726424623
And to add to this, looking back, I think there was an attempt on trying to make XIV 2.0 be related to the Ivalice world of FFT/12.
But come 4.0 when they had the Ivalice raids, they kinda inverted how the timeline of those games are in that world, so it's it's own version of Ivalice. Weird stuff.
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>>726425221
>didn't miss the boat
we have teleport crystals now
no need to wait for boats
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>>726425651
From the very start even in 1.0 they were leaning into the Ivalice 'feeling', even if they weren't making it literally Ivalice. That's why they went with the more theatric style of speech they also implemented in War of the Lions and FFXII. 1.0 also has very earthy tones everywhere and got Akihiko Yoshida as the art director.
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>>726402914
The one and only thing that is remotely true out of all of this is that they finally managed to move development of XI off of the PS2 devkits late last year and are now no longer dependent on them to develop things.

Everything else is pulled out of OP's ass.
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larp, FFXIV is running into data transfer or game storage size problems on base PS4, not an actual inability to run the game, switch 2 doesn't have the SATA speed or OS-side storage problems the PS4 does
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So The Switch 2 can run the entire FF7 remake trilogy but some how can run FFXIV?
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i spent 30 days trying to hatch and raise this stupid idiot and he still turned out yellow :(
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>>726425968
see >>726425927
yoshida has mentioned the PS4 is running into some kind of "data" problem and that will probably be what kills PS4 support
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>>726425883
Your coping
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>>726402914
it's weird how grok decided to randomly specify it was Rise of the Zilart, it really throws off the whole shitpost
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>>726402914
>and the next expansion, the most significant engine update in the games history, will make it so it doesn't run on PS4 anymore
kek
lol
lmao
rofl
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>Socials suddenly full of FFXI fanart.
Don't give me hope.
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>>726426087
>minimap addon
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>>726426087
When this update first came out I went and got my free egg from finishing the quest. It actually turned out black. I never raised it properly and let it die because I didn't realize how fucking insanely special that was and I wanted a red one.
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>>726426489
mappy chads where we at?
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>>726426579
>let it die
they can die?
shit, my yellow retard is probably long dead by now
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retard
square enix is done with console exclusivity
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>>726417057
sh-should I be afraid?
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>>726402914
FFXI is the best one.
SE really should remaster it.
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>>726402914
an mmo from the fucking ps2? who would want that, especially on a tablet
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MMOs will go on every platform they can manage because their bread and butter are subscriptions. More platforms, more subs. They would never purposefully make one an exclusive - especially to a fucking console.
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>>726426835
>SE really should remaster it.
They'd ruin it.
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>>726424851
playonline is already a pain in the ass on windows, imagine trying to get it going on loonix
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>>726426883
me, i would
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>people using the XIV UI / font and other garbage

Yeah, nah.
Game looks great without any of that crap.
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>>726426835
I want classic servers more than anything. Just updating the graphics would be kinda eh.
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Wait a minute did they actually, finally pry everything off of devkits?
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>>726426883
This is a thread for uncs lil cuz, its not for your eyes!
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>>726427234
Its happening. It took nearly a quarter of a century but its happening.
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>>726427234
Yes, they talked about it a few times this year.
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>>726402914
>the most significant engine update in the games history, will make it so it doesn't run on PS4 anymore
You gave it away right here.
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>>726427565
The most unbelievable part of that to you is that they're gonna stop PS4 support?
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>>726427565
It's reaching it's limit. Sony actually gave SE extra memory access to use on the console for recent patches, but now even that is reaching the limit.
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>>726427976
yoshida did imply pretty recently PS4 XIV is approaching end of life because of console-specific issues, even with sony specially putting out firmware updates to accommodate them
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>>726428056
that's so interesting
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>>726402914
>People get filtered over the controls to this very day
lol
lmao, even
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>>726428263
Bragging about shit controls you are able to put up with isn't a win
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it's insane to me that we may actually get more modern FFXI, including updated UI and trackers. shits wild. thought the game would be stuck in micro-development for decades.
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>>726428263
it was already straight out of the cambrian era when it was brand new
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>>726428360
>>726428561
They're just Final Fantasy menus. You play it like any other FF game. Stay filtered little WoWbitch.
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>>726428601
no it is not actually just like me sness jarpigs, it's even more menuing
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>>726402914
>no source
F&g
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>>726428360
lol
fucking lmao

Bitch, you don't even need to use a fucking mouse. You can control everything in this game with your keyboard alone. Yes, it takes a bit of getting used to, but once you do, everything just flows. What is it, you need pretty pictures in your menus to understand what you're doing? Go back to XIV or WoW, that seems more your speed.
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>>726402914
>>Working with hires from an external studio that were producing a now cancelled mobile remake of XI un unreal engine they have spent the last year creating a devbuild of XI that will be functional, stable and updatable using modern hardware.
Bullshit, we know they went to make XIV mobile.
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>>726428792
WoW and XIV is faster yeah
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>>726402914
Completely utterly fake
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>You didn't save up 1.1m gil by level 59? Sorry you're not playing DPS anymore bro
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>>726419793
mithra > miqo'te
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>>726428942
Then why in the absolute fuck are you shitting up an XI thread, go get pegged by a cat girl on Limsa.
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>>726429129
Got the wrong guy btw. I'm just pointing out that you said "more your speed". And yeah. WoW/XIV are faster.
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>>726428691
>the menuing isn't the same because there's more of it because the scale of the game is bigger
lol?
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>>726429018
>DPS
Wasn't a thing in 2003. We called it DD (direct damage).
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>>726429520
Speaking of which, my favorite descriptors of the trinity is from Xenoblade 3.
Defender, Healer, Attacker.
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>>726429647
>no mezzer
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>>726429739
Rizzler
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>>726428837
XI mobile was a thing, but it wasn't XI mobile, it was a mobile card battler wearing the face of XI.
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>>726429916
For real? Damn, that's grim.
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>>726423713
They NEED to have at least one ff exclusive for switch 2. They have an autistic schizo obsession with square Enix and they want nintendo to buy SE and capcom
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>>726428692
He stole it from reddit and added the switch 2 exclusive.
It's true they are updating the game though
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>>726429018
though I have really fond memories of XI I still don't like how elitist people were even back then. I several people ripping into me for not having HQ rings as I was leveling back in '04
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>>726427565
Even Genshin is ending PS4 support next year I think. The PS4 is finally winding down.
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>>726430207
nigga nobody was filtering for HQ gear in 04 unless you were playing with some random bilingual elitist JPs
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>>726429967
They hinted that something big was coming for XI's 20th anniversary and nothing ever happened when it did roll around. This mobile game was cancelled between the hint and the anniversary so many assume this is what they had planned. A while back someone leaked a bunch of dev screenshots, it looks kinda eh.
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>>726403353
It's more likely than you think.
The Single Player FFXI 'remake' had up until now been a fucking phone game.
Don't underestimate Squeenix.
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>>726430320
maybe it was the server, guess Garuda was kinda like that
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>>726430439
>>726430207
There wasn't elitism but there was commonsenseism, if you showed up as a DRK/WHM using a dagger you'd get rightfully told to get your shit together. If you showed up as a DRK/THF with a greatsword and wearing an assault jerkin you'd be fine. People didn't expect you to have a Haub, dual snipers, peacocks, lizzy boots, and a speed belt.
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>>726430439
Never realized how similar the FF16 world map is to this one.
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>>726430607
I somehow made it to level 50 playing as a RDM/THF with a sword and barely any magic.
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>>726430673
>True far eastern expansion never ever
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>>726430320
NTA but I remember HQ rings being highly sought after by players in the dunes. I think a lot of it was self imposed but people really wanted Balance Rings for the extra dex and I very vaguely remember BLMs having access to Eremite's Rings as being a much cheaper alternative and I remember seeing that as a perk at the time. I vividly remember that if you saw a mage with 2 Astral Rings that was an "oh fuck, this guy is a big deal" moment. Same with any nip that had actual avatars in the Dunes, that guy was a badass.
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>>726430673
I was posting about it way back when they first showed 16's world map. I thought it was going to be a sequel.
>Vana'diel -> Valisthea
>San d'Oria -> Sanbreque
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>>726430708
In the mega early days no one knew what to do so it was fine, I was playing the beta and people came up with the strangest ideas and everyone thought it was cool because we didn't know better.
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>>726430763
God I wish FF14 had this kino. Instead of wasting an entire "new world" continent with Tourist Latin America.
>>726430825
Fuck, I remember that.
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>>726430805
You would definitely receive preferential treatment but 04 is literally 1 year after NA PC got the game.
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>>726430763
>We never got to see the Mithra homeland
aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>726430937
Oh, I was remembering the PC launch. I guess that's 2003 then.
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WAIT IS THIS WHERE KOJI FOX HAS BEEN??
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>>726431032
You wouldn't be able to handle it
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>>726431032
>Mature Mithmilfs in spats
I can't, i'm not strong enough..
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>>726431546
The Mithra in the homeland mostly drove themselves to extinction fighting over the Bow of Light, it would probably be mostly kittens while they still try to repopulate.
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>>726430987
Always Windurst because you get easier access to the 3 mage gate
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>>726431220
Yes. Also Mizuta has been cooking up some new jams for it.
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>>726431032
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>>726431220
it would be hilarious if all his hard work on FF14 and FF16 led to him getting sent back to the FF11 cuck shed
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>>726431656
You're exaggerating. It wasn't that extreme.
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>>726431752
it's still a better legacy than his XIV and XVI work
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>>726431778
They said that it was basically only remnants of the fire tribe that were left by the time the Sin Hunters hid the bow.
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>>726431752
to be fair, he'd be in a much more senior role working on XI alongside leading the work on XVII as well.
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Windurst....home...
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>>726418428
That cough alone is better animated than anything in XIV.
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>>726417062
FFXI's UI is good, it looks like an actual RPG, unlike other MMOs which look like pic related. What is this bugman shit? An RPG is a game where you immerse yourself into a character and world. Most MMOs are just an RTS campaign where you order a unit around the board. Awful garbage. Go play a board game.

>>726417669
How would you NOT have to do all that? Even with keyboard and mouse? You'd still need to hover over them, click them, click Trade and find the item you want to trade and confirm it.
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The best "Confession scene that isn't a typical confession scene"
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>>726417669
learning how to do this to complete my first mission was a very strange experience
felt very archaic
it seems like no big deal now that I'm used to it though lol
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>FF XI quest instructions be like -
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>>726432365
kino
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>>726432365
Bruh where the waymark be? How I'm supposed to solve this?
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>>726432498
Yea instead everyone just looks on the wiki
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>>726429018
>as if any of this even mattered as most DDs didn't even have capped primary skills or enough accuracy to hit IT mobs

It is nothing short of a miracle that people even managed to get up to 75 back in the day.
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>>726432657
to be fair, getting the +10 accuracy is the most important thing there especially if your skills are gimp
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>>726432559
How'd the wiki get filled?
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As someone still playing FFXI, I have no issue letting people know that no, they aren't remastering it. They aren't updating the graphics. They aren't making an offline version. And they literally can't make a classic server unless they build it from scratch since they don't have code snapshots.
Also, as a reminder ffxi doesn't even have a dev team at the moment. All ffxi tasks are farmed out to members of the ffxiv dev team between xiv tasks.
None of that shit is happening.
What is happening is that they're finally completely leaving the ps2 dev kits behind and once they complete the transition, they'll finally be able to start adding new areas to the game again.
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>>726432657
I wish I could go back in time and just make T/VT parties. I'd have gotten to 75 so much faster
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>FFXIV is goong to be too intense to run on Switch 2 in 8.0
Fuckin lmao what a crock of shjt
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>>726432657
that's why you'd take a black mage to do a magic burst that the enemy was weak to. multi hit weapon skills were king because at least one of them should hit and allow the black mage to delete the enemy.
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>>726430987
>no Sel'phiner

Interesting. That map would have been from around that time, too.
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>>726432810
Nigga the Switch 2 struggles with the open zones in fucking Palia that shit is NOT running something like Sea of Clouds in the next expansion.
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>>726403353
Square kept shooting themselves in the foot by releasing games on the epic store and ps5 only so they'd absolutely do stupid shit like this
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>>726432736
Ok
>Yea instead 99% of players just looks on the wiki
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>>726432736
brute force. Like cracking encryption by using a massive network trying all possible combinations.
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>>726432913
The Sea of Clouds ran on PS3.
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>>726432956
>remove playonline for 11 on pc
>it becomes an epic store exclusive
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>>726402914
I would only want this if it doesn’t go past 75 cap.
80 cap already brings the power creep granting sub job access to things like accession, convert and sekkanoki
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>>726432798
Christ, I spent so much time on MNK with Life Belt and Shiva Claws for the sweet, sweet accuracy. And let me tell you, having to give up wearing Brown / Black Belt for Life Belt is a very niche and awful kind of pain.
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>>726433008
I'm talking about a zone full of artefacts in every possible direction to render. The Sea of Clouds made the PS3 shit itself. The PS4 struggled with Ultima Thule as is. If they do something like that again post graphics update the PS4 is going to set on fire.
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>>726432062
>it LOOKS
no one is talking about how it looks you fucking retard, the functionality of the UI is abysmal. the UI looks nice and you can easily have the UI look the exact same while making it more functional.
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>>726432736
Once you know how XI quests work, most of them can be solved with trial and error. Entering / exiting zone lines, examining ??? marks in zones, making note of drops from enemies that only occur in one area, etc. You can piece them together. There are patterns to how quests work.
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>>726433161
>the functionality of the UI is abysmal
And that's a good thing
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>>726432559
You do that in games even if you have markers and clear instructions, because people want to know what to expect and the game isn't going to spoil you and be like, "Hey, this quest spawns a ghost, you might need three people including a stunner, and then you'll need to trade a flower to a ??? so better grab it first so you don't have to make two trips." The game is never - and should never - tell you all that. But other players could, and a wiki (or YouTube) is "other players."

>>726432657
Most people didn't. Most of the friends I made getting to 75 quit before or right after reaching 75. I spent so much time helping newbies in the Dunes and only like 2% of them got through the grinder. I watched people actually cry because they couldn't beat Maat, give their account to a friend because they were moving on with their life, get backstabbed by their friends and lose interest in the game entirely, etc. In my experience, the people who leveled the fastest were the biggest cunts. One of the nicest, funniest people I met in the game was level 50 when I first saw her and a year and a half later she was level 60 and finally had AF.
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>>726432810
>FFXIV is goong to be too intense to run on Switch 2 in 8.0
anon i don't know if you've ever played xiv on console but genuinely the game is barely functional on consoles. i remember going to my friends house to build their computer and seeing what xiv was like and it is GENUINELY unplayable.
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>>726432970
So people solved the quests and then told other people how to do it?
In an MMO?
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>>726432810
Motherfucker PS4 XIV doesn't even have reflections on tiles when it rains. Its running on all settings at LOW/OFF.
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>>726433471
No not in an MMO
On a website
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>>726433331
not him, but isn't it like 10 years old? how are you trannies saying the ps4 version is end of life?
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>>726403353
Squeenix’s whole business model outside of FF14 is selling exclusivity deals. It’s crazy how I can’t play their games however I want, even though it’s technically possible.
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>>726430987
Interesting that Bastok completely changed locations, while Sandoria and Windhurst are roughly where they should be
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>>726424117
its retarded enough to be real
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>>726433557
the ps5 version isn't any better.
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>>726402914
at least try to make your bait believable. There is no reason they would dump 95% of their playerbase on pc and playstation.
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>>726417218
>playing an mmo
>on controller
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>>726433557
xiv is a ps3 game that could never run on consoles in the first place and a lot of the shortcomings with the game stem from the fact they have to make it run on consoles.
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>>726432780
I don't understand the people who say "they can't make a classic server," "they can't make new expansion packs," "that can't do this or that," how do random fans make private servers and meme mods and shit? I'm pretty sure I could remake Super Mario 64 from scratch from memory in Unity or something right now. I don't need to know the fucking tools Nintendo used, who cares about that shit? It's a video game. If it looks the same - and plays the same - it's the same fucking game. Why does everyone act like old games rely on the fucking ark of the covenant to work?
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>>726433504
A website with information filled by who?
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>>726433627
It's just a retarded tendie who stole some redditor post and added the SWITCH 2 ONLY
/v/ is full of nintendo marketers
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>>726433681
>playing a PS2 MMO that functions like a console RPG
>on a controller
Yep
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>>726433331
I went to check a video and holy shit lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y-Mo4fsnhY
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>>726433161
How is it abysmal? Give me a scenario where it doesn't work right and there's an easier solution.
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>>726433752
>Why does everyone act like old games rely on the fucking ark of the covenant to work?
its because most gamers don't know how to make a game, that's why they say shit like that

t. im a game designer
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>>726402914
tendies dont play FF
but somehow this sounds retarded enough to be real
I guess it just reminds me of the MH deal back in Tri
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>>726433681
Why wouldn't you play a 3D third-person game with a controller? You're not doing your taxes, you're an adventurer running around a fantasy world.
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>>726434215
WoWbabbies only know WoW controls.
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>>726434215
low iq post
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>>726403353
have you been living under a rock?
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>>726433021
In full honesty, I wouldn't play a classic/remastered XI. I already put 15k hours in the original game and I've played private servers a few times for a few hours for the sake of nostalgia. I don't need the same game again, starting from nothing and being surrounded by players who all already know everything about the game. I'd rather they make XI Souls or revamp the game so much that players actually get new abilities every level instead of every 10 (that's not an FFXI-specific problem, most RPGs are like that).
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>>726434275
You're playing a game that looks like this with a mouse and keyboard? It's not an FPS.
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never happening because of playonline.
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I’m a lalafell in Xiv are taru taru my ancestors any taru taru nation state? I am interested in XI
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>>726433681
Faster than keyboard actually
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>>726434986
less babyish looking, but the idea is generally the same
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>>726434215
Quicker access to skills with the hotkeys.
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>>726413026
FF6 enjoyer
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>>726434986
Shantotto is your greatest ancestor.
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>>726434986
Tarutaru talk like retards
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>>726434986
>any taru taru nation state?
Windurst
The Mithra are basically like the immigrants who never left
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>>726413008
>>726413860
They have for like 10+ years anon. Just pick either a 75cap x5 or x10 exp rates server, or a 99cap server and go for it.
Chains of Promathia is "the story" that ppl always talk about with XI.
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>>726435247
>allow immigrants
>but only the women
>also they're catgirls
kinda based
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>>726435159
It's an RPG, though. By your logic, every game is better with a keyboard. Why don't fighting game characters' special attacks just use hotkeys? Because that's gay, that's why.
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>>726402914
0/10 never post again.
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>>726434686
>souls
I hope what you want never comes true then. You’re exactly the type of person I hate and your idea sounds horrible too
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>>726403353
bro bloodborne 2 is a switch 2 exclusive anything is possible in this fucked up freakshit world we live in
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>>726435494
RPGs are best when they're action games. I'm sorry you're a 300 lbs. turbo nerd, but this isn't Civilization.
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>>726435448
>Why don't fighting game characters' special attacks just use hotkeys?
The 3DS port of SF4 did, it was pretty funny because it completely broke charge characters like Guile. For a game where you have so many abilities, especially FF11 where you NEED to either macro gear swaps into everything or have a third party program manage your gear swaps for you, it matters a lot more than most other genres.
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>>726435517
Calling the Duskbloods Bloodborne 2 is like calling Smash SM128.
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>>726435517
It's a PvPvE game, it's closer to the new Dissidia mobile game than Bloodborne.
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>>726435814
But FFXI has macros for gear swaps. I also wouldn't say you NEED to gear swap either, but sure, you can. Make macros for them. They're not exclusive to keyboards.
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>Each race has a mother crystal associated with them
>None f the races' home nations are near their associated crystal
>Galka's is stuck in another dimension
kwab
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>>726435954
You can access them faster on keyboard though. So it's an actual advantage with the control scheme compared to controller. Controller is still fine though.
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>>726402914
>FFXIV 9.0 with the intention to alternate releases between the two.
No way in HELL would that fly with FFXIV players. Fake.
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>>726402914
yay
>buy game
>slip it in
>needs a 20gb patch
>after patch you need to make an account
>no keyboard just remote entry
>but that was just a squareenix account, you need to make a game account now
>need to log into both accounts before being able to log in every fucking time
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>>726435341
The male Mithras are very rare, so they are basically enslaved and kept in rape dungeons in the homeland.
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>>726403657
I can't imagine THAT much overlap, they're two wildly different styles of MMO. FFXI is an Everquest clone that requires poopsocking, social groups and 3 hour sessions to make any progress, FFXIV is practically a single-player rpg
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>>726435970
There's no need to defend the crystals since they were nigh unbreakable without a Zilart nuke, and it's not like the enlightened races even knew the significance of the crystals anyway.
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>>726415972
My body isn't ready.
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>>726436454
haha that would be the worst
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>>726406986
14 has one of the best stories in FF
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>>726417217
I already do all content with my wife Amchuchu anyway so nothing changes for me.
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>>726421012
>he never played wotg
lmao
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>>726436516
>FFXI is an Everquest clone that requires poopsocking, social groups and 3 hour sessions to make any progress,
only classic is like that
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isnt 11 far better than 14slop?
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>>726437123
Even in its present, decayed state. Yes.
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>>726437123
in some areas, yes.
but mostly? no.
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>>726436691
11*
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>>726437123
Yes, all 14 has going for it is the story, which is mostly lifted from 11.
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>>726437123
Quite frankly they are two entirely different games in two entirely different genres.
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>>726437123
I like both for different reasons
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>>726437123
base XI and it's first two expansions blow anything XIV did out of the water. a timeless classic
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>>726437991
that looks nice
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>>726435517
Retard
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>>726437123
swtor blows both of them out of the water
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>>726438309
RoZ isn't anything special storywise. It wasn't until CoP that the game's story telling and cutscenes started to have natural flow
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>>726438309
this is because those stories were written by the co-writer of Chrono Trigger btw, so you know it's quality
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>>726406986
what about XIV mobile?
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>>726438550
Xenogears too
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why are xiv trannies coopting this thread
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>>726406986
I would recommend FF14 up until Endwalker. The Expansions are basically their own FF story and are worth playing even if they're stuck inside an MMO. I'm like you and not really interested in MMOs but it is worth it Anon.
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>>726438550
Wow no wonder they're great.
They need that nigga on the XIV writing team
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Semi related but people were saying Mizuta did some tunes for 14 recently, is that confirmed? Do we know which ones?
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>>726433681
XI was built for the ps2 controller so yea, controller is best. Using anything else just feels like a handicap and you're going to have a bad time.
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>>726437123
They're nothing alike, but if you asked me which one to commit to in current year I'd tell you XI. XIV hasn't been worth anything outside of "I can just watch this on YT" fodder post-SB imho.
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>>726439005
I wish this were true but I doubt it
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>>726439005
It's not confirmed but if you look up the last few cutscenes of the latest patch you'll hear some music that sounds exactly like his style. It's very noticeable.
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>>726439005
>>726439175
Here, listen to this and tell me this isn't Mizuta.
https://youtu.be/XCORxxI06dQ?t=5020
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>>726439187
>>726439256
yeah it's definitely not their normal team, I just don't want to get too excited without any confirmation. His XI work is superb and I'd love to see him work on another MMO.
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please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real
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>>726402914
FFXI was a Playstation games tho... wtf SE???
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>>726439343
his stranger of paradise ost was pretty good too if you haven't heard that yet for some reason.
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Are there free private servers for FF11 and FF14 yet?
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>>726439620
i haven't played it myself but i did listen to the soundtrack, good stuff on his part
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>>726439731
For FF11, yes.
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>>726439731
For FF14, yes too.
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>>726439256
honestly doesnt sound like anyone from soken's team
even another version of smile that comes after that cutscene doesnt sound like xiv
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>>726434423
No. I've been playing XI. It's not going anywhere else
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>>726437123
>please tell me what my opinion is on these 2 games i've never played
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>>726439731
For XI, Horizon and Catseye are the recommended ones
None for XIV I know of
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launch week on Horizon was some actual magical shit
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>>726439731
the official server for 11 has been free for over a decade
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How did a thread about the worst, fake, made-up rumor about the best MMO in existence get 463 posts?
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>>726439731
You can do a free trial for FF14 for the first 3 expansions now I think so you can play through some of the story that way. Granted the 2 expansions right after the trial are where the story peaks but you can see if you care about seeing the rest that way if you want.
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so if i want to play ff11 for the first time as a complete noob should i play retail or a private server
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>>726429018
i remember getting flack for not having Erase in the 70s as a white mage
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>>726440294
If you play retail you will most likely be solo with trust NPC party members for a good while
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>>726419793
bro is peak blud ahh
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>>726440185
Reminder the plan for the expansion after Shadowbringers was a full Gymlitt Dark WW2 against Garlemald but the ancient shit in Shadowbringers was so popular Yoshi scrapped the whole thing.
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>>726440294
Retail, private servers are literally full of trannys. Support the actual game so we can get more real content in the future.
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>>726440157
XI is a great game and has (outside of private servers) an amazing community. Whenever a thread pops up it's always a good time.
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>>726440459
They should have went back to that instead of what they did for Yawntrail.
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>>726440157
Because the rumor is real.
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>>726440370
well yeah you should have all your spells as a mage nigga
Imagine showing up as RDM without refresh
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>>726440526
TIME
NO MORE ONCE UPON A TIME
We had such hope for the future. Then we got Bungie'd.
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>>726440459
>Now Garlemald is just a bombed out apocalypse shithole forever
what a fucking waste
I'm glad FF XI only has unexplored areas and 0 wasted areas
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>>726440546
The rumor is "real" in the same way that the lord of the rings trilogy is "real". Yes, these stories exist, but they're based on someone's imagination.
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>>726440157
/v/ really likes FFXI.
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>>726440639
Nah it's real.
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>>726429018
hey faggot if youre gonna pretend to not be underage in an old mans thread at least use the proper terminology you zoomer nigger.

DD
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>>726440693
FFXI, Morrowind, Bloodlines, MGS, Max Payne, these are the things that sooth the uncs tired heart.
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>>726440294
Depends on your intentions, do you actually want to play the game or dip your toe in and move on after a day or two?

Private
>Free
>Does not contain the entire game
>Designed to recreate the "golden years"
>Very solo unfriendly, time intensive
>Despite claims, is not period accurate

Retail
>Not free
>Contains the entire game
>Still gets new content updates
>Design wise is extremely different than the "golden years"
>Large amount of QoL features, Solo friendly
>Deep, and I mean FUCKING deep endgame that is both solo and party focused
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>>726440574
Refresh was a trash drop from BCNMs that were easily duoable. Erase only came from 1-2 BCMS that required full teams and were more difficult. it also wasn't that useful once you got Haste
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>>726440459
>the ancient shit
You mean the climax of the whole story? How would you go from “end of the world, final days/apocalypse” in Amaurot to “dicking around in a trench with ala mhiggers fighting Nazis” in Garlemald without major pacing issues? The whole Hydaelyn vs Zodiark bombshell from Shadowbringers demanded an immediate resolution in the next expansion. Because it was the fucking climax.
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>>726440997
That's why Stormblood sucked. We had good traction in HW then we went to Japland for no reason instead of continuing the plot.
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>>726440997
Shadowbringers ends with Zenos promising to set the world aflame and fight the WoL upon the ashes. The Final Days is a mystery when 5.3 ends and we have put the last of the ancients to rest. Fandaniel was an asspull at the last minute.

Remember "Lunar Primals?" suddenly bringing back the Armal'jha? 5.4/5.5 was a hard pivot to flip assetts and rewrite things.

Hell why do you think Endwalkers story ended in its .0 release and not months of escalating final days shit as we struggled to find the source? because it was a rush job and they had no planned patch cycle for it but the 13th stuff tied into the Reapers and Zenos.
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>>726441230
>they had no planned patch cycle for it but the 13th stuff tied into the Reapers and Zenos.
>Endwalker patch content has fuck all to do with the ancientslop and is entirely spun off from Garlemald, Zenos and the Reapers making deals with Voidsent
>One of the expansion jobs was a garlean job
Motherfucker they hoodwinked us with a stealth filler ar in 6.0 didn't they?
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lets go
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My favorite dropped plot thread going into Endwalker was Fandaniel being like "Could Emet Selch have managed to..." and then it was never expounded on again
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>>726441294
Wrong thread Vizzer.
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>>726441497
ZENOS HAD FUCKING DREAMS OF THE FINAL DAYS, REMEMBER THAT SHIT? ALMOST LIKE THE FINAL DAYS EXPANSION WAS NOT MEANT TO HAPPEN YET AND THERE WAS MORE SET UP PLANNED
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>>726441562
It's fine... isn't it?
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>>726420513
>Instead of a new level cap grind
I don't think they want to go beyond 119+3 because that would invalidate tons of gear that's needed for swaps
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this is the dumbest fake shit I've ever read. FFXI is not getting remastered, the audience isn't there anymore.
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>>726441882
>he doesn't know
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>>726441882
the game is so popular lately they've had to close two servers entirely and might have to close a third
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>>726413008
>private server
fuck no. Just play retail if you want to play the story, you can solo literally everything up to the very high level end-game story (Rhapsodies of Vana'diel)

You can summon trusts (NPC party members) to do any story content so any player can pretty much do everything. The lower level missions you can do over-leveled to, though I can't remember if some of the battlefields / boss battles are level capped still, maybe they aren't anymore. It's been like a decade since I played FFXI.
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>>726441882
They literally had to close their largest server to new characters this year because its too congested.
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>>726441562
shut up /vg/nigger
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>>726410996
>they made a fucking monster hunter clone and only put it on fucking 3DS
You mean the same platform MonHun was stuck on for years?
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>>726442046
They just closed the second largest one as well, Odin is up next if things keep going this way.
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>>726403353
it's actually more believable, SE is actually that stupid
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>>726410996
All those games stuck in shitty systems like 3DS and switch should be ported to PC. It's literally free money.....
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>>726442069
>Lets release it on the ONLY platform the thing we are imitating has on lockdown and not the other platforms it doesn't.
Are you a Square Enix C suite employee?
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>>726442046
Asura, sure. but only Asura and Odin are even remotely populated anymore. The few other servers there are pretty much are dead.

t. someone who played FFXI for tens of thousands of hours over the years. I don't play anymore but I was on Asura last time I did.
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>>726442109
>Mfw Shiva is still a ghost town and idiots still buy my signet crystals at busted prices.
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>>726442154
https://www.ffxiah.com/database
>he doesn't know
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>>726442249
Yeah it's been a while, I'm surprised there's that many active accounts still.

FFXI is making over 1.2 million a month plus all the extra subscriptions for mog wardrobes and whatnot, easily they're making over 1.5-2 million / month, more than enough to run the servers and maintain a staff no wonder they keep it running.
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FFXI is popping off
XIVggers are coping
Feels good
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Just reactivated for my yearly return to Vana'diel to subsequently ragequit when people see me on GEO and harass me until I join their group.
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>>726442387
>Mfw i was a ARR andy who dearly loved XIV until the WoWfags moved in and the game became IMVU2 for modbeasts.
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>>726442140
Why would you release a MonHun game on platforms other than the one that you know has MonHun fans on it
If that's the target demo, then no fucking duh they put it where that demo is
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>>726442578
This is also me
Just picked up XI last year when XIV went to shit
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>>726442387
FFXI is just the better game.

FFXIV is for casual retards and troons. Anyone can get the best gear if they want in XIV. In XI you literally have to work for that shit like it's a job.
Any casual can master the mechanics and gameplay of XIV. It takes actual time, effort, skill, reading, knowledge, etc. to master FFXI. It requires a ton of extra time outside of the game just to set everything up in windower and gearswap. Also, it takes a fuck ton of time just to grind out all of the best gear you want for each job you play, nevermind the money and timesink of grinding out its best weapon either mythic or whatever. There's even more complexity to the end-game now that I have never played, like they've added a ton of new stuff since I last played it a lot almost a decade ago which is insane.
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>>726442578
Mare and modbeasting killed the community. You typed in FFXIV on twitter before June of 2022 and you'd get people sharing their pictures of their playthroughs.
You'd get people posting their houses, their achievements in game, cool spots they took pictures of their character in game.
You typed in FFXIV on twitter after June of 2022 and you'd get modbeast characters with Second life tier tattooes and gooner gposes and it only got far, far worse turning into full on porn with fucking each other and fully posting that on twitter. It absolutely ruined the community and the reputation of the community and people who say otherwise are part of the problem.
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>>726442947
Sounds like it got flooded with women after COVID.
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>>726442947
True. They should have banned mare long ago.
>>726442998
"women" yes
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>>726436031
I'll admit it's technically an advantage, but it's a slow, non-competitive game. When you need to use a spell/ability, you probably already have it selected and are waiting for the right moment. This isn't StarCraft. I think using a keyboard for an MMO is like using a VR headset for an FPS.

And inevitably, the people who swear by k+m, end up playing the game like this picture >>726432062
Camera pulled far out, often above the character. Screen plastered in icons. Chat box is tiny and transparent. This isn't an MMORPG. You're not playing a character, you're commanding a unit. That's lame. That's bugman shit. FFXI isn't for people like that.
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wow i'm glad this hit bump limit right when the xiv trance people crawled in
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>>726442947
i knew it was joever when my normie friends shared a video of a male miqote paladin in af gear standing still and emoting random emotes than the account watching them in first person turned on the modshit and suddenly that catboy was a 20 foot tall hyper mpreg minotaur with a giant horse cock.

Why do wowfugees obsess with horse dicks so much anyway, you ever notice that?
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>>726443175
I play both
cope and seethe
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>>726434986
The XIV races look like the XI races after several generations of being human-washed.
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>>726443229
>friends shared a video of a male miqote paladin in af gear standing still and emoting random emotes than the account watching them in first person turned on the modshit and suddenly that catboy was a 20 foot tall hyper mpreg minotaur with a giant horse cock.
A couple of years ago I would have called you a liar. Today I simply have fatigue that this is what my game turned into after seeing all the videos I've seen against my will from my FC chat.
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>>726440157
Because we're fucking desperate for XI news/content.
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I am logged into FFXI right now.
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>>726443868
Have a good time king.
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>>726442947
i remember people in xiv threads trying to gaslight me into thinking having mare in your adventurer plate didn't matter
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>>726443868
If you're on retail, I /kneel. If you're on a private server, you're a transsexual.
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>>726444327
does retail charge a monthly fee?
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>>726444327
Correct
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>>726444327
I am going to farm ambuscade on retail.
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>>726444380
Yes, because it's a quality product.



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