I never played it before, but I'm an oldfag who played vanilla wow on launch so I can deal with old games. Is it worth checking out once reforged releases?

>>726421667
wow players wont be able to get it

>>726421667
Yeah why not, it doesn't require a sub so you can take all the time you need.

>>726422352
I quit wow back in 2008 and never touched it again, I'm not a wow player.
>>726422467
I'll keep an eye on it.

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>>726420668
Jeremy Soule.. Home...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph69o2lurEY

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>>726420668
I'm really tempted.

>>726423642
why do cats do this?

>>726424405
its not real, thats ai (artificial intelligence)

>>726424581
no i can clearly see it's a cat not a t800

>>726424673
yes but the t-1000 is liquid metal and capable of changing forms

>>726420668
The game plays like a single player console rpg. It even has party bots. PVP is non-existent.
I don't get the appeal.

>>726421667
It certainly won't hurt to check it out but I'd keep my expecations in check if I were you. This isn't really a remaster, even if the name implies it but more of an update that introduces a bit of technical fluff and QoL with potentially further updates in the future (they are still exploring the capabilities of the tools they are given to see what can and can't be done according to the Q&A).
There's no separate server for people to start fresh, so at the end of the day it's still the same played out game where the majority of people sits around in Spamadan trying to sell shit in a completely fucked economy, while the rest mostly play solo and does shit with their own heroes. Personally I kinda doubt that this will lead to a big revival of the game, but I'd love to be proven wrong here.

>>726420668
I never truly left, even if I don't play every day. There simply isn't another game like it.

how big are the party sizes in gw1? Thinking about getting into this with a bunch of my buds

>>726425342
Depends on the content. Early missions tend to have a size of 4 but it scales up to 8 with two of the later elite missions (the deep and urgoz warren) allowing 12 players.

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>>726425029
It's a online RPG. PVP was the best but now it's dead because of lack of content for almost 15 years.
>>726425193
Kind of a shame the sequel is just another shitty WoW clone. I loved the feeling of it being a journey traveling through it with friends getting to the next town together. Getting from Town A to Town B felt like doing a dungeon together instead of going through generic mob zones where people are just solo fetch questing collecting boar skins and shit.

>>726425586
Sounds pretty good for my group, any sort of holy trinity requirements or is it kind of just a free for all when it comes to class roles and stuff?

>>726420668
Please give me more inventory space i have loss aversion to tonics and pets and literal fuckng garbage and let me recruit heroes in prophecies arfhdhfhfghgbll

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Yes, I am pretty fucking excited. Guild Wars sucked probably hundreds of hours from my teenage years.
Mommy Devona...

>>726427017
You need healing. I generally used to think you need a minimum of 1 healing monk and 1 prot monk for most 8 player missions. After ritualist and paragon came out, theres other options. I recall doing some missions with 8 dps people who brought shitty self heals but it was painful as fuck, like everyone dead and huge death penalty. Beyond that i feel like every class is viable and a balanced compisition can get you through, but even if you go heavy into one type of dps class, you can still make it work through careful selection of skills, call targets to focus the same one, etc.

I recall a number of missions being easier if you bring a ranger with the winter spirit which converts dmg to cold and then having an ele use elemental resistance wards for bonus armor while it also fucked up the enemy synergies.

not giving anet money again so some indian can hack my account

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>>726420668
I hope I get to play with some of you

>>726427017
It's sort of trinity. There's tougher types but not exactly tanks, and healers are a must-have dedicated role. Builds are pretty flexible unless every person is doing something completely wacky and different.
There's a bit more focus on support-types than most MMOs. Like "batteries" that primarily just give other allies Energy.

GW is a pvp mmo is it not?
PvP mmos are all retarded.

>>726420668
Tell me more.

>>726420668
sex with assassin girl

>>726420668
Essential skills to know about!
Protective spirit (enchantment) 10 energy, 5 second cooldown
For about 20 seconds target ally cannot lose more than 10% max hp due to damage from a single attack or spell.

The above skill combined with high health regeneration and intentionally low max hp of 55 highlighted an early popular build to make you nearly invincible- until an enemy mesmer or necro decided to shatter all your enchantments.

Light of deliverance -elite skill, healing magic - 5 energy, 6s cooldown - all party members are healed for 55..70 health (it scales depending on your healing magic stat as do most skills) generally just a great healing skill to offset high pressure from large aoe damage over time or hexes and conditions by just outhealing it.

Spiteful spirit- curses- elite hex spell. 18..20 seconds. Whenever target attacks or uses a skill spiteful spirit does 29..35 shadow damage to that unit and adjacent allies.

Put your big curses like this or Backfire on the bottom of the stack and quickly cover them with quick, or less important hexes like mild health degeneration. Many healer skills only remove 1 hex at a time so putting a cover hex on top allows the important one to stay on longer.

>>726429304
it's a online rpg with pvp shit you can do. It's called GUILD wars after all. However the game is mostly dead so pretty much all you can do is the online rpg content if you can get some friends to play with or play with bots you can hire in towns. Might be more randos around when the re release on steam comes out though.

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>>726420668
>EotN still exists
No.
At most I might make a new Prophecies character and fuck around a bit.

>>726430489
shes not for sex

>>726431456
he HATES the norn fighting tournament

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>>726430592
There is no greater feeling in vidya than nailing an enemy with a distracting shot during his important skill or ressurect.

Lets talk about ranger mechanics. When a ranger shoots his bow at a stationary target, the arrow will hit him. When he shoots at a moving target, the arrow flies as if the target will continue to move in the same direction at the same speed. So if an enemy fires at you, you can dodge the arrow by strafing. But many skills leave you stationary to cast over time. Bows have different characteristics. Flatbows and Longbows have the highest range. Hornbows are for losers who want armor pen and should play a warrior instead. Recurve bows are the best for delivering interupts - a short flight time and low arc. Shortbows fire faster.

If you dont care about the interupts, you can maximize DPS by firing a distracting shot or savage shot immediately after another skill. This might be called an 'animation cancel' in modern gamer terms.

>>726420668
How is the story, characters, and lore?

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>>726431775
Now we're gonna talk about minion masters. Did you enjoy playing a necromancer in diablo 2? Well this is one of the few other games you can summon an army of the dead.

A minion master will typically take different skills that require a corpse to use like Animate Flesh golem, and animate bone minions. Another spell can be used to deal large close range aoe damage by blowing up your own minion, so if one gets low on HP, you use it.

While many people liked having ranged minions because they were powerful, I always liked having a ton of melee guys due to bodyblocking. Oh, that enemy healer wants to kite away and use a touch range ressurect on his friend? Tough shit buddy, there is a wall of zombies and skeletons around you and you cant move, and my friend is about to drop a giant meteor on your head. Sucks to suck!

>>726423642
I really really like this video. Can I save it?

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Is it going to be a min/max tierlist metafag bitchfest like every re-release of an MMO is these days? Why am I bothering asking, yes.

>>726420668
I never played much GW back in the day, but my friend who loved it is really excited about this so I'll probably play with them. He'll get to deal with me making 27 different characters while trying to decide on a class.

>>726432950
Well, there aren't enough classes in the game to warrant 27 characters (not to mention that you won't have that many character slots anyway), so your friend should be fine. Also you can change secondary classes whenever you want in the same way you adjust your skills. The extremely flexible build and skill system is exactly what made this game so great.

>>726433185
don't lie to the man, you have to make it like 1/3rd of the way through the campaign before you're allowed to change your secondary. maybe half, i don't remember when it happens in prophecies

>>726433589
If they start in prophecies it will take a bit longer, yes. I could have added that you have to unlock class changes first, but my point still stands that the game has a super flexible class system that allows for a lot of freedom so technically he only needs 10 slots if he really wants one for every single class. There's no lie in that.

>>726432703
I feel that way too many people seem to be completely misguided by the Reforged title and need to understand that that this is NOT a remaster, nor a re-release or anything of that sort. It's really just an update to the existing game to introduce a bit of QoL like controller support, steam deck support, UI adjustments for modern display resolutions and the sorts all while bundling all 3 expansions into one new single purchase (Eye of the North not included btw). They are also considering future updates at this point, but that's pretty much all this is.

fuck it
im buying the 8 mercenary slots and making my own old characters to have the skills to go through prophecies without henchmen.

I remanded that the last time I tried to pay it the account creation process shat itself.

>>726432619
are you gonna offer a video in return?

>>726420668
I genuinely played Factions more than WoW at a time when I had access to Retail Cata I wanna say

how much of gw1 is soloable?
i have no friends and don't want any

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>>726436602
i have no friends either wanna team up?

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>>726436602
All of it is soloable except some of the optional hard stuff

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>>726436853
at least you're voluntary friendless

>>726436602
all of it. you can do it with the henchmen in normal mode, might be a little annoying at times, but i'd say its possible. for hard mode you'd want to go through the nightfall campaign and eye of the north to get heroes, which are customizable henchmen, you can change their skills/gear in any way you want.

>>726436602
i recommend you start with nightfall to get Heroes, then do prophecies or Factions because at the start of prophecies its hard with low level henchmen (when the game came out the low level henchmen were okay for some quests but it encouraged you to form up with real players who were higher level)

>>726436940
GW1 is a game for straightchads from 2005
Don't post anime girls if you want friends.

>>726437031
i play all games where i can play as a hot girl

>>726437096
the female ranger dance is pretty great but i made my ranger a male because im not gay, but it was okay for me to make a red headed female elementalist with skimpy elite clothes because i know im not insecure

>>726437096
That's fine
Just don't post sad anime girl reaction gifs, it makes you look like a fag

>>726436602
if you get heroes, the game is very soloable

>>726436940
you could try joining up with the /vm/ people. i might do that since im still in a guild from 2005

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>>726437397
o okay

>>726437096
Based. I always play as a female in GW1, the armors are great.

>>726437269
Correct choices. Male Ranger is chad and Male Elementalist is gay as fuck. I had a female Ele and Mesmer because they are hot and the male versions look like fags. The other base classes were fine either way.

>>726437585
Bro come on bro

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i know getting new content is a long shot, but what i'd want to see is
>smiting prayers reworked
>paragon reworked
>the mesmer meta finally broken
>hero melee AI finally fixed
>NEVER EVER TIER
>new armour sets
>new heroes in prophecies and factions
>guild wars beyond classes finally added to the game
>being able to fine tune hero AI

>>726438584
>guild wars beyond classes finally added to the game
huh? i never bought the mission pack for this stuff, what did they do with it?

>>726438584
guild wars beyond classes?

>>726438584
>>726438776
>>726438831
i meant utopia my bad

>>726432406
>MMO writinh
It's shit
>Writing ended before the 2010s
Still better than modern vidya writing i suppose.

>>726438584
>paragon rework
honestly probably my favorite class in any game, even though it's kind of shit
the idea of a 'bard' class who isn't a faggoty little lute diddler but a soldier singing battle hymns and commanding the group has yet to be matched anywhere

>>726433589
>>726433885
you can travel to cantha or elona to switch secondaries

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Never played GW ever but this woman has lived in my mind rent free for like 20 years

>>726437269
I made a female ranger when I was a young teenager because the elite druid set made me cum buckets.

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>>726439615
GW1 still has the best video game necromancers ever.

>>726439615
she only fucks dead guys

>>726440043
well then, i'll see you on the other side

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It wasnt easy but ive almost made it to yaks bend on my new prophecies character

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>>726440037
Really anon? GW1 is peak necromancer fantasy?
Like I said, never played it, but you just sold me on it.

Wasn't this supposed to be a WoW-killer? Lfmao

>>726440836
...A game that released a couple of months after WoW was gonna kill it? Nigga you retarded.

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>Questan with20 escort NPC.
>fun arcade style streamlining
>low stress game play
>pets and dyes
But nothing beat that feel of my pre-searing build. Seriously, I almost want to reinstall and cry a little for how comfy it felt, and I was a wowfag. Wow was a brute, GW was like digital joy. Nort even GW2 could top it.

>>726439615
Same, I made some slop of her a few weeks ago.

https://files.catbox.moe/6si7ma.mp4

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>>726440520
The best part about GW1 necromancers is that it covers all bases. You've got a ton of support for raising undead minions, obviously, but you've also got really strong direct damage spells, debuffs, and unique ways of buffing yourself/allies.

We are going bro's, can't wait to be blinded by the bloom again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COc5uklfwGo

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I made it bros. Now I just need to find someone to run me to lions arch?

Are the servers of GW1 still maintained?

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Reminder that the /vm/ guild is running DoA HM this weekend. All are welcome to attend. Don't worry about preexisting experience or knowledge.

>>726441607
Yes. The game is still active and regularly updated.

>>726441607
Yeah, they said they will keep them running unless they go bankrupt because it costs next to nothing to keep them running according to the devs.

>>726441041
Outstanding work, anon!

I would ask for Devona but instead: what model are you using? Or which general or pastebin should I read to learn this power?

>>726441645
>>726441702
Well shit I might jump in too

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>>726439615

I still am pissed at anet that they did not retroactivelly made the standart npcs recrutable heroes

they had the coolest design, and for everyone that just want to play prphecies you were cucked out of it,

I would really, really like the poster boys of GW1 to be modifyable heroes. There are som any shitty ones that do not deserve the spot

>>726441645
Do you guys fuck around with builds or just run meta speed-clearing shit?

>>726440836
Damn are you my Blizzard-addicted friend who lives in an alternate reality?

>>726423736

>tfw I will never exterminate all these fur fuckers with gwen

The small as UI and menus old grants have in 1440p screens suck.

>>726441789
Yeah it is weird having the core prophecies characters that pop up in each campaign be useless henchmen that suck complete ass compared to the literal who heroes.

>>726441871
All the UI elements can be moved and resized.

>>726441758
Wan2.2, check /g/ AI threads for setup guides and such.

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>>726441846
>Do you guys fuck around with builds
yes
we have several autists who theorycraft shit all throughout the thread and run wild kooky builds
earlier this year even, we voted for creative/weird builds when we ran The Deep iirc and a guy handed out cashshop rewards
Run whatever you want we'll make it work.

>>726441607
Yes, one of the main reasons for Reforged was how well received the recent Anniversary updates were. If I remember correctly, they once stated that the entirety of all Guild Wars 1 servers costs less resources than just the chat server for Guild Wars 2.

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>>726441380
I'm mostly excited for the new controller and steam deck support. I'm gonna get comfy and enjoy pre searing rolled up in my blanket with my Deck

>>726420668
Might do

dunno if I have a free character slot to fire up one last campaign with the lads

>>726442159
I tried making a pre searing only character 9 years ago but got bored at lvl 9, couldnt grind him to 20. Decided to take him into prophecies despite the fact i already have a character of this class w all the skills.

>>726441914

it is so infuriating!

>played bought and played through the shitty menlo/togo fag larp campaign just in the hopes to unlock the sexy purple haired ninja from the cover
>realize afterwards she es not a hero, she just has some insignificant brief appearence. Get literal whose instead

>play nightfall, even worse just get a fat, balding middle-age hero

yeah fuck you too anet!

>>726441789
that'd be a really cool update that I can't imagine would be TOO hard to implement (if real updates end up happening).

>>726442435
The worst part about heroes is having so many of them be random elonian nobodies since the mechanic was introduced with Nightfall.

>>726442329
getting Legendary Defender of Ascalon is a lot less mind-numbingly awful now that there are just scaling daily quests to go beyond the wall that will take you there

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>>726442036
Thank you!

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>>726441041

>>726442648
Welp I just found out I can paypig to make my characters into heroes but its basically useless to me till i get to lions arch. Dumb!

Even if new areas/missions are out of the question, I hope they at least rebalance the classes. I don't believe in achieving some perfect balance or anything like that, it would just be nice to shake up the meta because it is so fucking solved and stale.

Steam sells this as a "trilogy", am I at the correct place?

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>>726420668
I already did before this announcement

>>726443772
Wait until Reforged. If you buy one campaign (Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall) you get the other two for free.

>>726443772
yeah. There's going to be a price drop with Reforged, though

>>726444083
>>726444117
Aight will wait for the price drop. Cheers

how many character slots is reforged getting

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>>726439913
das rite

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>>726434240
People (see: Zoomers) are retarded and don't deserve to play GW1.

>>726444298
you eight for owning all three campaigns so probably that many

>>726443740
Are you talking about pve?

>>726444795
no the post you're linking isn't mine

>>726444431
That's the exact face and hairstyle I used, too, just a different color.

>>726444495
guild butt

Bring me back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snjr5jTvniI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xZd3MW7OdQ

What was your favorite dance?

Luxon or Kurzick?

>>726420668
It's basically the same but with more graphics and some qol isn't it
Good thing I'm getting it free

I should probably finish my current characters first.

>>726448125
Not that much graphics i think theyre only adding ambient occlusion so zoomers can play it without being freaked out that everything looks like liminal spaces

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>>726420668
They're going to fuck it up just like they did GW2. Fuck this gay life

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>>726447172
For the Luxon! Never trust a FILTHY Kurzick.

>>726449991
It's just quality of life updates by a small team of old GW1 devs. They are hoping to one day make new content or even balance changes but that's not only unlikely, it's a long way off if it ever does get to that point.

hopefully I'll be able to play counter mesmer again

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>>726420668
Singeplayer offline status?

>remaster
>not GW3
gross

>>726420668
the women in this series are insanely attractive, even in 2 sylvaris are so fucking hot

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>start in prophecies
>the absolute slog to get to Lions Arch so you can actually get stuff

yeah i forgot about this

I always come back to GW1. Do a campaign and come back to it again in another year or two. I only play it as a single player game nowadays, haven't engaged with the PVP modes in more than a decade and my guild is dead.

>>726452270
if you have trouble with a mission or an area because henchmen are too low, you can walk to the next zone or mission, grab higher level henchmen and then go back as long as you dont return into a town.
Also take the ranger, warrior, and monk. The ele sucks.

>>726452270
The most efficient way to play has always been starting in Nightfall for heroes and easy LA access.

>>726438584
>>new armour sets
>>new heroes in prophecies and factions
>>being able to fine tune hero AI
those are more likely than balance patches

>>726451937
Are you pretending to be retarded to troll or are you simply this stupid on purpose?

>>726452503
I'd be happy with just Prophecies and Factions heroes desu

>>726452406
i figured i would do it in proper order but fuck that

>>726421667
Honestly? Not really. The magic is gone.
You had to be there back when there were a ton of people playing.

>>726452548
qol change pls give us hero slots in prophecies

>>726442532
they never added it because they were concerned with breaking the balance by someone running 7 of the same profession heroes or something, but that all went out of the window when they added the "make your own hero" DLC.

>>726436602
Solo is perfectly doable with henchmen
If you mean completely solo with no npc allies then fuuuck no.

>>726452574
there will probably be a pretty good surge of players when Reforged comes out

>>726436602
you're gonna hit a wall halfway through where you have to actually get good at the game(building your skills and party, knowing how to pull and target priority, etc) but it's apparently possible to do solo.

>>726441512
Join one of the few active guilds and theres always someone online who will help you

>>726453442
>one of the few active guilds
Like the /vm/ guild

the most awkward part of the game for me is always asking somebody to help for the mandatory 2 person quest in prophecies

>>726420668
I liked the gameplay and classes well enough but as soon as I got out of pre-searing and learned you needed to group to get from place to place in instances I dropped it.

So probably not

>>726454121
it was patched like a decade ago to only need 1 player

>>726454574
it wasn't when i played it last year

>>726421667
>>726425061
most parasocial niggas on 4chan

>>726454709
you pull the lever and run to the door, theres plenty of time now

>>726454780
no anon, the tutorial quest that you can only complete by having another player in your party
the lever isn't what i'm talking about

>>726454968
that is the lever quest, it opens up the northlands

When do I start having fun?
I talked to various class trainers, I got 4 new skills for both of my classes, they don't send me anywhere else to get more, and now I just have some boring fetch quests to complete.

>>726455058
no fun allowed

>>726434240
fresh servers ???

are the graphics getting updated?

i WILL summon a horde of undead boys and i WILL have fun

>>726420668
How do I make Ritualist fun? I unlocked 25 points of HoM on my Rit with help from a friend so I really don't want to start over

>>726458085
become a necromancer

>>726457905
they said, some lightning and effects adjustments and added ambient occlusion

>>726440492
Based. The Northern Shiverpeaks mountain range is something I checked out when GW2 launched then noped out of the game after seeing that none of the vistas from Borlis Pass nor The Frost Gate survived. Between that and Lion's Arch getting fucked over, I figured the devs didn't respect the old game anymore which soured my interest in GW2. Being able to jump and swim wasn't worth what was lost.