>ram prices QUINTUPLED in just two months>a PS5 Pro is now cheaper than a fucking dramIt's over.IT'S SOOO FUCKING OVER, BROS.
who cares?
>>726644289PS5 pro still cant run Elden Ring at a locked 60fps lmao
>>726644367You lost, 3rd world PC poor
>>726644289The fuck even happened thoFirst we had retarded cryptofags inflating GPU prices, now what
>>726644425AI
>>726644289this kind of shit happens all the time. wait 6 months and buy then.
A year ago I bought this kit for $300.
>>726644425ChatGPT made a deal with CHYNA or some shitBasically they need all the memory that is currently being produced in the world to power their woke brainwashing LLMs and bought up their entire supply in advance, so consumers get nothing which drives up prices like crazy
>>726644425Market manipulation, imo. You think it's a coincidence prices soared this time of year?
>>726644425AI niggers are buying all of it up. The exact same RAM kit I bought earlier in the year now costs ~75% more from the same website.
ummmm pcbros? chat wtf we are taking L after L
Prices will crash in like a month or two. AI jeets deserve the fucking rope in the meantime.
>>72664484970% of gaming rigs are in india
ai bubble popping, whatever happened there?
>>726644425>JewpenAI bought 40% of the DRAM fab production of the biggest two DRAM manufacturers because MUH DATACENTERS>suddenly consumer DRAM is supply is having a sharp decline>some analysists say that OpenAI doesn't really need all that RAM but they did this to fuck up the competition so that they remain the biggest player when they go public next year>the situation is so fucked that there are some reports of G.SKILL asking retailers to buy back their unsold RAM supply to honor their future sales obligations>this shortage in consumer DRAM is expected to last for a year
>>726644425Our cute and heckin' valid AI allies are at it again. Lucky for them, I hate Twitter flesh artists more than I care about my financial sustainability so... win?
Do you ever wonder what the people who keep making these threads ever look like and what goes (or doesn't go) in their lives?
>>726644425as the others said, AIfaggots.the literal only way to make "AI" "work" is by brute forcing it and loading everything into memory at once. this demands ridiculous amounts of ram. its unsustainable in the long term, fortunately. we're at the "crypto niggers buy up all the GPUs in the last ditch effort to make it work" stage so expect the bubble to pop really soon.
>AI is apparently the biggest thing ever>it's just the same 6 companies constantly buying AI related shit to artificially inflate its valueI don't know a single non-jeet that gives a fuck about AI to the extent these companies pretend to.
>>72664487240% of Samsung AND 40% of SK Hynix will be allocated to AI slop for a year, anon. These two have the biggest ram fabs so no other manufacturer can fix this supply shortage in the short term.It's OVER for at least a year.
>Live in actual developed country with working legal infrastructure, so there's laws against price gouging Damn it feels good to be European
>>726644402Ps5 pro has 2013-2015 performance, of course it can't run a 2020+ game.
>AI datacenters needs gpu vram>this somehow effects the price of desktop ram sticks (including DDR4) that's already manufacturedit's market manipulation.
>>726645410>price gougingThis is a supply and demand issue, you stupid commie europoor. Once the existing supply of that store in your screenshot is sold out, the prices will skyrocket.
I bought a new computer with 2 open RAM slots. Was thinking of moving over my 2 ram sticks from my old computer to the new one. Is that possible?
our economy is the fakest and gayest shit of all time
>>726644289I bought this for $1600 4 months ago.Not my fucking problem.
>pov: you are an npc in recettear
just buy a ps5 bro
>>726645663don't do this it will create mustard gas
>>726645715>speccy>in 2026cmon unc what the fuck
>>726645715>CL 46LMAO
>>726645408Nah, it'll be fine
>>726645850don't tell him about the pipe bomb in his hdd
>>726645663depends on if its DRR4 or DDR5 and what your mobo supports.also combining different kinds of ram is not a good idea.
>>726644425the consequences of our president's actions.
>>726645019in two more weeks the bubble will pop
I should prob disinvest my shit before the world-wide economy crashesBut i guess i'd end up royally fucked anyway
>>726645287>its unsustainable in the long term, fortunately.Retards have been saying this about AI for three years now.
I need to sell my old RAM while people are still panicking.
>>726644425Nvidia making shady as fuck deals with AI Datacenters and securing a fuckton of sticks for them, while CHINKS mass panic buying RAM to compete with them on behalf of their AI "startups"TL;DR nvidia AI ponzi scheme fucking witn components again
My PC is much better than a shitty PS5procuck console, i upgraded last year and i literally don't care. Fuck console faggotry.
>>726645850>noooo you have to use my hipster tranny program!!Dilate
>>726644289I read that sony can stomach it with the piss5 because they are still sitting on ram stock.But if things dont change they will probably shoot up in price too. Xbox is already confirmed to get more expensive.
>>726645562The stock is 25. It runs out twice a week. Where's the price hike?
Feels fine man.
>>726647037DDR4 Prices isnt affected
>>726644289I was thinking about getting a new pc sometime next year. now ram is more expensive than a 9070xt. maybe i should just get a 9070xt and dump it in my current pc instead.
>>726646545the dollar is collapsing too, nowhere to hide
nigga nobody needs 96gb of rameven 48 is egregious currently
>bought 32 GB DDR5-6000 for 88€ last year>it's 388€ right nowLmao
>>726647037Why the hell you need a fucking 80gb of RAM ???
>>726644289Not my problem.Still not building a PC.Still not buying a PS5.Still playing my backlog of actually good games.
>>726644289Only hope is China. Supposedly, many new fabs will be ready in 2026 and hipefully some will be for RAM production.
>>726647208I use my PC for video and photo editing. 96gb is not that much.
I wonder.. do RAM sticks ever fail as a component? or does it last almost forever (at least a decade + or something)? i never really heard of someone having to replace their faulty RAM on their PC..
Thank you God for blessing me with DD5 ram this year.
>32GB DDR4 3600MhzIt's a peaceful life
>>726647530yeah they fail just like anything else.
>>726647429>Still not building a PC.>Still not buying a PS5.>Still playing my backlog of actually good games.What games are you talking about? All games are on PC and that's it. There's nothing else.
>>726647496Name 3 things made in china that last for more than 5 years
>>7266466103 years is not long term. This actually seems like a last ditch hail mary attempt at making the exposed wonder potion work before the crash happens. 40% of the global ram output reeks of desperation.
>>726647061>DDR4 prices aren't affectedDDR4 RAM I got for 40 bucks 2 years ago is now triple the price
>>726647575wtf? seriously? it's just some damn sticks, it's not like they'll overheat or get overstressed etc... unless it gets maxed out in AI shit over and over..
>>726647396>had 32gb of ram (4x8)>decided I needed 64gb ram (I don't)>ebay up a 64gb kit>the kit I ended up buying was 2x32gb>still have 2 dimm slots left>fuck it, i'll throw 2x8 in the remaining slots for lols>magic, 80gb ramFeels sufficient man.
>>726647061My 64gb kit cost me $100 bucks like a year and a half ago and now is over $300
Every day more gay shit in this world. Are we close to AI girlfriends? No.
>>726647661RAM does get hot which is why they have aluminum strapped to them and the faster stuff has fins.
>>726647653Probably american thing. I bought 32gb of ram 3200mhz (2x16) for only 30 bucks
people told me a year ago>don't buy DDR5 RAM, it isn't worth it, just buy DDR4.
>>726647602The American economy
>>726644425AI. They need ram for the seven trillion data centers they will build that also will never turn on because there's not enough electricity.
>>726647661Everything fails and thermal cycling is what really does pc parts in. RAM is using more and more voltage which is why heatspreaders now actually matter for fast DDR5 kits (and those select golden sample DDR4 kits that will eat like 1.5v lol). RAM is very reliable but it will fail just like anything else given enough time.This is why people into real retro computing (stuff from the 70's to late 80's) hoard memory like a dragon on its pile because the chips are failing due to age and replacements only exist by cannibalising other systems. Relatively speaking modern cpus and motherboards are extremely tolerant of mismatched RAM kits and timings (you just get common lowest denominator) but BACK IN THE DAY you used what ram the machine was specced for or get fucked.
>>726647774That was intel copers. DDR5 always performed better on the cpus that support both.
>>726648000nope. ddr5 had really high timings originally and could perform worse in some workloads.
>>726647760>>726647945Dammit vros... i dont wanna have to replace my fauly 64gb of RAM in several years down the line..... imagine the INSANE prices... But thx for the replies, but still big sad...
>>726645857what's the issue?
>>726648175Unless you are abusing the kit I would hardly worry about it failing anytime soon.
>>726646610It's important to remember that as far as the market goes, AI is still in the "promise" stage and has yet to make a single fucking dime. In fact, it's really really good at wasting a ton of money instead, between sucking up ALL resources and silicons and leeching more electricity than a small country, to the point most of these datacentres can't even run with the current electrical infrastructures.It's the same billionaire tech companies investing in each others and putting orders to prevent the bubble from bursting, but the fact remains that at some point, the money has to be paid. This is why they're trying to rope governments into the AI pyramid scheme, so that when the card house collapses, the taxpayers will hold the burden.
>>726647731I was promised genetically engineered loli catgirls.
>>726648219You forgot to enable expo.
>>726647597I can play every PC game worth playing on an Atari VCS.
I cant believe I saw the day ram was not a meme but just having ddr3 for 12 years going to ddr 128 early this year I understand why. People can't optimize anymore. I had to use Brave on ddr3 because of how SHIT everything is now.
>>726647602This post is Facebook boomer meme tier.Just a reminder: the Pentagon is constantly giving itself exemptions to use Huawei products.
>>726644289Why are you constantly comparing it to the PS5? It has no games and thus can't be compared to PC
>>726646610do you believe that exponential demands that are already felt in regular customer markets are sustainable
>>726644289Just stop being poor?
>>726648378I meant ddr5 128, I am fucking safe for at least 10 years now.
>>726648401No games yet always begging for PC ports :)
>>726646610because everything about it IS unsustainable.>have to scavenge the entire internet for training data to make it even remotely believable. cant use that to improve AI output anymore because the internet's already been scraped and there's too much AI slop to continue scraping without causing the inbreeding problem>have to load everything into memory to make the AI shit out something believable, requires AI companies to buy up all the ram and fuck over everyone else>need to spend more electricity to run these setups, so much so that upscaling as they are now WILL create power shortages>the money earned from offering their services is NOT enough to even remotely pay the powerbill and earn back the money spent on supplies.the card house will crumble, add as many cards as you wish but you cant stop it.
>>726647853Would be funny if this somehow led to opening and creating new nuclear power plants
>>726644402>>726645412Yes it canPlay the PS4 version
>>726644289what do you even do with 96gb ram???
>>726647853It never ends, its what happens when rich people get involed in a nerds hobby. Soulless
>>726648495Like what? They've already ported everything.
>>726648497two more weeks artnigger
>>726648359>worth playingYou're a pretentious retard with shit taste.
>>726645930This shit has nothing to do with the tariff bogeyman. It's because Nadela's a cunt.
>>726648612yea, cause you begged for it
>>726648497They will be bailed out by taxpayers and they'll continue to push it
>>726648495>>726648642Get new material snoytranny, like VIDEO GAMES
>>726648642I never really cared about Sony exclusives, anon. Inb4 bloodborne no I never cared about rollslop neither
>>726648632
>>726644289my 4090 doubbled in 18 months. Can sell it used for a 60% profit.Clown world folks
>96gbwhy do you even need that much
Bros, I'm going to get a new kit of ddr5 6000mhz cl30 Corsair vengeance. Should I bite the bullet and get 64gb since I'm already sitting on 64gb of ddr4? I need a new CPU/mobo desperately since I'm still on a 9900k and I'm going for the microcenter bundle for a 9800x3d.
>>726647620>40% of the global ram output reeks of desperation.also means its impossible to keep going long term.they cant possibly demand 100% of all ram being made and they most definitely wont be able to get ram manufacturers to multiply their factories for a technology that might not even be here tomorrow.
>>7266488584 chrome tabs, discord, OSRS, fortnite and a 4k netflix stream.
>>726648642no one asked for ports of sony games. they're so ignored that sony never even added denuvo, lol
>>726648879What are you doing that needs that level of gear?Apart from local Ai software or 4k/8k video editing. When would you need ddr5? And more than 64gb at that.Fellow 9900K here, I've yet to run into a CPU bottleneck playing literally everything maxed out.
>>726648673they just got told to fuck off by trump.
>>726649004>most definitely wont be able to get ram manufacturers to multiply their factoriesThat is why it is 40% - the ram cartel guys aren't paying their own money to build more fabs. There was talk from OpenAI (iirc) they would finance fab production for memory but i'm not sure how much truth there is to that.
>>726644289Is this just an American issue? Checked Amazon yesterday and RAM prices looked normal in my cunt.
>>726649041Tarkov and WoW are murdering me right now in terms of frames, and yea I do local AI stuff and lots of modding for Skyrim although that matters a lot less I'm still good on that front. I just like having all that extra ram capacity to do whatever with. The 9900k has been excellent for mostly everything but being 6 generations out by this point is starting to catch up with the things I still keep coming back to for whatever reason.
>>726649106oh boy that would make the whole endeavour even more expensive what could possibly go wrong?
>>726649041Also I meant I'd just be replacing to ddr5 64gb, not getting 128gb I'm not that enthusiast yet lol
>>726649106>There was talk from OpenAI (iirc) they would finance fab production for memoryThat's fucking hysterical since OpenAi also talked about being in the red.
>>726644289>tfw boughted a pc in 2022 before prices went to shit>tfw rtx4080, 32 GB ram an a 13th gen i7My last pc lasted my for like seven years and I replaced it only because of my whim and too much money to burn, this baby will last me until the end of this decade easily
>>726648858video renderingif you aren't making videos idk why you would have that much either
>>726644425The data center scale is completely off the charts now. There are AI datacenters doing more computing in a couple days now that was used in the entire history of crypto combined.
>>726649314Sam is fucking desperate to keep the company propped up on speculation so this recent move was partly aimed into trying to get other major players moving and investing in the ouroboros so their money would flow back to him.
>ram is one of the cheapest parts of PC building for years>AItards making it gradually become one of the most expensive parts just to flood the internet with even more slopI genuinely hate AI. Everything it touches gets fucked.
im just not gonna buy it. fuck you.
>>726649314I'm sure there are other people that will buy stock if you think it is a bubble.
>>726644289So we're going back to pre builts being cheaper than self assembly again like during COVID huh
>>726649824as we know investors have never been wrong.as a matter of fact if you are so convinced that investors never make mistakes why arent you putting literally all of your money into it?why arent you going into debt to make literally free money?nigger.
uh... 16 gig bros are we okay?
>>726649502his goal is to make it "too big to fail".its already close to that the S&P would get rocked so hard if it all shits the bed.
>>726650130>t. didn't get the reference
>>726649681>I genuinely hate AI. Everything it touches gets fucked.yupp, and now it's holding up the economy so they can't just make it go away either.
>>726649056The same Trump who flip flops all the time? His Jewish masters will tell him to concede.
>>726644289>96GBWho the hell needs 96GB of RAM?
>>726647945Stfu u stupid sonamuhbish ram used to use 1.8v and 2.0v before that kys
>>726650610That just proves the economy is fake and gay
>>726650793games in the next generation because devs haven't optimized games for pc in 20 years
>>726644849>work in office>install steam>play counter strike>click yes when the survey asks if i want to do it>oh my shitty office pc is a gaming pc by steam logic
>>726644289It's over
>2020>Hrmmm COVID means I will be locked in my house... I should get a new PC>One year later everything costs 100x more Yeah, sorry you guys didn't have any foresight. Guess I'm just superior.
>>726644289>96 GB
>>726649317only reason i updated from a 250 to a 750ti was i burned the gpuno reason to update often anymore
>>726650830Put 1.8v through your RAM now and see how long it lasts. The properties of older nodes is irrelevant. Fuck it, put 1.8v through your gpu.
>LOOOOL 96GB IS TOO MUCH SISTERwhy is /v/ so poor and dumb to understand the concept of future proofing?10 years ago, 16gb was an overkill now even cheap chink phones come with 16gb ram.5 years from now, even 32gb will be considered low end.
>>726651526retards like you probably exist and they are sitting on 1tb of DDR2 ram because they thought that the byte number is the only factor that matters.
>>726651526>I MUST CONSOOM>IM SO SMART FOR CONSOOMING
>>726648538Hella VMs
>>726645180The average npc drone in /v/. AI is le good just because
>>726651760go eat cow poop, ranjeesh
>>726647853>AI takes up all the RAM>datacenters take up all the electricity>they will also take up all the drinkable waterThis cannot crash fast enough
>>726651526>Futureproofing platform changesYou should kill yourself as soon as you can anonWhenever you get home just get a rope and a chair and fucking kill yourself
Will Switch 2 prices skyrocket after Christmas?
>>726644289I’m genuinely curious if poors and lower middle class getting priced out of everything is going to cause some massive unrest. I make above average salary and even then the financial pressure for handling all necessities, holiday gift shopping and emergency funds needed to replace important or maintain it is starting to make me crack. I genuinely feel like we’re barreling into a collapse with no brakes no signs of slowing down.
>>726651981>holiday gift shoppingThis is why ‘christmas shopping’ is a scam. To make the goyim poorer all in the name of commercialism. It’s little about spending time with community and worshipping jesus anymore
>>726651469You couldnt be more retarded even if you tried
>>726644471>RAM for AIbased retard
>>726645412Retard thirdie.
>>726652149yes yes ddr2 used 2v so its fine to put 2v through your ddr5
>>726649013Or just 2 firefox tabs
>>726652102retarded post.gifting people something once a year shouldnt be a financial problem in the first world you are focusing on gay christian larping for no reason.
>bought my new AM5 parts because i thought tariffs were going to fuck everything up after julyfeels like i dodged a speeding ICBM
>>726652253Why do you think consoles run games at 30 fps not 60, 120, 200 fps like normal computers?
>>726651981It's almost fascinating how that's happening across the entire developed world. My country is known for being rich as fuck, but despite that purchasing power has only gone down, financial pressure as you say is stressing people out, and household debt has never been higher. I honestly think things will go completely to hell on this continent within a decade.
>>726644425You know how the arms race of the cold war bankrupted USSR?Same idea here with China and the US just with AI and Computers rather than war machines and nukes.
>>726652585>gifting people something once a year shouldnt be a financial problem in the first worldThis is exactly my point, giving to others SHOULDN’T be an issue but every year the multi billion dollar marketing industry revs up to upsell everyone on shit they don’t need for others and themselves making them spend beyond their needs. I would know since I come from a family who does this same thing every year, even giving tablets or phones that cost too much to friends and their kids and then they wonder why they’re always struggling financially at the end of the year. It’s insane.
>>726652728>household debtThis is a huge marker for a coming collapse when they’re talking about pushing for 50 yr term mortgage loans which will only lead to even more debt with the caveat that wealth growth will invert negatively on an entire generation and make them go bankrupt. We’re not ready for what’s coming.
>>726644425>cryptocucks attack GPUs>AIggers attack ramgamers are OPPRESSED, the next meme bubble will attack CPUs
I'm glad I upgraded everything in February~3K for top of the line everythingNow it would cost that just for the GPU and the RAM is currently 5x what I bought it for.
>>726644771>We're on the forefront of technology and going to change the world!>WE NEED ALL THE MEMORY TO MAKE A REAL SELF AWARE COMPUTER THAT DOESN'T CONSTANTLY FUCK UP>Just keep scaling up, we just need ANOTHER order of magnitude to start making a profit>Please ignore how we're ruining your power bill, committing actual fraud through cyclical trading between companies to boost perceived value, desperately trying to force everyone to partake in our useless AI powered tools that are more cumbersome to use than traditional onesAnd so it begins.
i guess programmers are going to have to stop wasting ram
>>726644425"AI" (its not artificial intelligence its just an LLM running on vram. llms have existed since the 1960s) fags can't make hardware so they are buying all the gamer stuff just like cryptofags did.
>>726655004truly gamers are the most oppressed group, techbros are constantly coming after our crap and driving up prices.
>>726649681but think of the benefits>indians producing vast quantities of low-quality, misleading websites>indians producing vast quantities of low-quality, misleading articles>indians producing vast quantities of low-quality, misleading videos>indians producing vast quantities of low-quality, misleading images>indians producing vast quantities of low-quality code>scams
better luck in your next life, anon.
>>726644425it's the cryptofag rerun banner. jokes aside it's just that AI is the new grift
itt: bangladeshis, kenyans and russians seething over ps5 supremacy
I can still buy 64gb (lol you don't need more than 32) for about $400, I'm glad I live in a real country and not some capitalist playground like united jewstates of america
>>726655591the techbros will buy from your country once our supply runs out.
>>726649681Cry about it. We need it more than you do.
>>726648673>They will be bailed out by taxpayers and they'll continue to push itNo they wont, the black hole of money it'd turn into would rapidly destabilize the socioeconomic situation in the US to the point of collapse, and all so Timmy can keep generating "BIG BOOB ASUKA BUKAKE (no bad anatomy) (best quality) (miyazaki style)"?By the time it reaches the point where they need to bail out the people behind this, it'll be a choice between a serious economic crash, and the same thing with a several billion dollar cost on top.It's not just some wallstreet cokehead rolling snake-eyes with pension money, it's an entire industry that's fundamentally flawed and headed for a painful death.AI companies don't provide a mandatory service like a bank holding on to peoples money, or a public transportation service, it's a pointless service with no profitable use.
I 'member when NFTs were going to revolutionise the world.
>>726652864The misallocation of capital has been insane. Its been several years and no one can figure out where the money is going to come from. Just that "We'll get GenAI and then the profits come" somehow. The fact its affecting real areas like RAM prices and electricity just shows how fucked this whole thing has become.The real area for growth and progress is robotics since it can actually do something tangible rather than making Spongebob run from the cops.
Thank FUCK I got 48 gigs of ram a few years back and that ram is the least upgrade intensive aspect of my PC.
>>726644289>96 GB of ramyeah no fucking surprise, why not compare the PS5 price to the Cullinan Diamond?
>>726655728The problem is going to be the stock market since so many Boomer retirement plans are tied up in the stock market. The narrative will be "save the retirement funds" You're right that there really wont be a way to save them. People have gotten more wary on AI and inflation is already bad. It would rupture the social fabric like you said. Probably result in another March on Wall Street
>>726655318>64gb The PS3 only needed 216mb or something to run some games at 720p 60fps. Modern gaming is so retarded.
>Banks>EssentialWhere's my jewdar.gif when I need it.
>>726655591what a bargain
>tfw upgraded earlier this yearI feel bad for people trying to just enjoy fucking videogames in this fucked up economy.
>>726644849Don't put me into the same group as dirty poorfags from 3rd world>USA + Europe account for ~45-55% of active users (matching bandwidth ~51%). Thus, outside: ~60-70 million MAUs. China alone is ~25-30 million (24% language share). Russia (~10M), Brazil (~5-7M), and other Asia/LatAm make up the bulk.In reality it's only better than 35% of real human's PCs.
>>726655848the thing that pisses me off is that the whole>scraping the entirety of the internet and making all of it accessible to a single programcould actually have a tangible benefit for humanitybut instead, these niggers are filtering it through retarded LLM that hallucinates more often than not and gives you outright wrong data.
>have 500$ console for singleplayer kino games to sit on a comfy couch and play whilst your gf sucks you off>have decent PC with 16gb RAM to play multiplayer games with friends in 1080P 144hzIt's that simple you retards. Stop crying.
>>726655728I think the idea ultimately is that if you get AGI or whatever, then you can just hack the shit out of everything you want and the thought of not getting there first has DC and Beijing paralyzed with fear. idk if this is even possible, but it's what I imagine the motivation is to keep this massive sunk-cost circus going.
>>726645410perkele vittu satana :DDDD
I love how the billionaire tech guys cared so much about global warming, but now that they need massive amounts of electricity to run their data centers it doesn't matter. Ditto for the chinks, who also pretended to care, though of course their actions never lined up with what they said even before AI.
>>726656772they never cared over here either, it was always an excuse to push more taxes on us.
>>726656085This isn't to play games, it's to keep Chrome tabs open.
>>726644289>96gb of ram
>>726656772Chinks do care but probably a lot more due to making money off of selling green tech, getting off oil dependency to cut off the west's oil advantage, and not getting lung cancer by simply breathing.
>>726656772The only positive coming from this is the massive wave of nuclear energy shilling setting fire to decades of bullshit about how dangerous it still is.
>>726656772And still no nuclear energy
>>726656772Chinks literally never cared. China was where the west shunted their production so they could lower their nominal carbon footprint by not having manufacturing and all the energy requirements that come along with that locally. Also they're still to this day building coal power plants and running over a thousand currently. Nobody ever gave a shit about muh global warming and there's a reason they shifted to "climate change". And that's because it was always bullshit, they pivoted from global cooling being the end of the world immediately into global warming and realized that the 180 catastrophe switch miiight clue some people in that the problem is being exaggerated so they switched terms.>>726656865Also, fuck software developers undoing every bit of progress made with hardware. Pages load faster now than with dialup, but slower than when broadband was first introduced and without being any better to actually browse.
>>726648536>have 3080ti>game has 60fps lock>struggles to maintain 50fps at 4k>install a fps unlocker>solid 90fpsPeople always point at elden ring and forget that From is the worst technical dev out there.
Why post Amazon prices that any seller can add at any price?
>>726644849You're taking D after D.
>>726644289Ram used to be cheap, what the fuck happened
>>726652249>>RAM for AI>based retardAI datacenters gobble up all the silicon wafers for HBM memory on their enterprise cards. Some models only fit in GPU RAM if you have shitloads of it, so enterprise cards come with shit like up to 1TB HBM. No spare silicon wafers means they don't have capacity to make regular old RAM. Manufacturers have DDR5 orders booked up till 2027, I shit you not.Since any chips need several months to make, memory won't get cheaper for at least a year unless the AI bubble bursts like right the fuck now.
>>726657463they're reopening 3 mile island because of the need for energy
>>726657463All the AI guys are pushing hard for nuclear energy just to do more data center bullshit. What an amazing waste it all is, finally getting nuclear power just for this pointless shit.
>>726658531The magic is when it all goes pop and all this shit floods the used market it is useless to consumers.
So I'm stuck with 32 gb DDR4 forever?
>>726644423>he thinks this won't affect prices of future consolesAs we often say where I come from: lmao.
>>726658701>Implying most corporations sell their shit to poorfagsThey'll shred it before they let you get your hands on it.
>>726658754You don't need more, you're not gonna play niggerman creed right?
>>726656772It's the worst when they're putting those data centers right in the cities or on the outskirts. Directly interfering with urban power grids, tapping into the water supply and dumping extreme amounts of heat into areas that are already struggling with heat trapping. Fucking WEF is trying to shill data centers as a replacement for dedicated heating plants, as if there was any demand for it during the warmer half of the year.
>>726658938Nah, you see it every so often in waves on ebay when big bois upgrade and (in times past) suddenly a mountain of xeons would turn up for sale for dirt cheap. The kicker in that case is of course motherboards are not and the entire server ecosystem not adhering to ATX standards so lmao go fuck yourself mere mortals. The homelab guys fukken love it though.
>>726659109What about SPT? I wanted to get 64GB RAM to be able to run SPT on streets with high FPS, but I don't know now.
>>726659150Are there any stores to watch on ebay for that?t. aspiring homelab guy
>>726644289>The only thing that came out of the AI boom was unemployment, shitty art, and increased prices in hardwareKeeeek, enjoy your AI porn while it lasts, shit will get uglier
>>726658221Still better than Crapcom and Team Ninja
>>726659241You might want to see what /g/ says as the specifics are outside of my knowledge.
This has got to be some concerted effort from the powers that be to get people out of the PC realm into the closed garden console realm.
>>726659294You can thank this fat orange retard for giving AI and crypto shitters trillions of dollars to buy whatever the fuck they want and leave nothing to the plebs.
why is gaming so expensive bros?
>>726659632>Crypto>Pandemic>Tariffs>Shortages>AI>All of this is literally man-madeI really hate the fact that we have to share this planet with low IQ retards.
>>726644289>96 gbFor what reason?
>>726644289well, until sony raises prices to compensate anyways. i dont know why snoys think their little toy isnt going to increase too
>>726644425Ranjeet needs more ram so he can make retarded bloatcode in whatever trash AI system he uses that makes your OS run like garbage
https://files.catbox.moe/h85nd3.png
>>726659794gooning
>>726659882according to moor'slawisdead guy, sony already has enough stock to cover 2026 ps5 production and ps5 it will actually get a price cut next year
>>726659442AI started getting big under Biden and most software developers and big tech guys are lefties.
>>726660772
>>726644425Jeet AI
>>726661050They really are not, they buy Democrats like they buy republicans but listen to any number of terrible podcasts or interviews with these guys and you will see they aren't really leftist in any way, especially not now. Suckerberg and the Palantir guy are always complaining about women feminizing the workplace and shit these days for example
>>726645019Being propped up by the US government and an eventual tax payer bailout doesn't mean it's not happening. The can's just been kicked down the road.
>>726659294Thanks. I run Megumin ERP locally.
>>726661050Big tech niggers don't give a fuck about the gay right/left dichonomy, but they will use it to get power and control.
>>726661907>>726661050>>726661406Zuckerberg in particular put a tremendous amount of money and effort into keeping Trump out of office and then the minute that failed immediately started sucking Trump's dickHonestly I don't get how Trump tolerates that and doesn't still wanna kill him
>>726644425This is what happens when everyone forgets how to optimize shit like they used too.And once again, it's all NVIDIA's fault.Thanks a lot PCFags
>>726662039Billionaires have no principles. I would even go as far as saying they have no souls, so don't hesitate to hang them all when the time comes
>>726662039A lot of these tech guys came up during Obama and loved the fuck out of him and Dems and were anti-Trump but after they lost that a lot pivoted to the right and became very embarrassing cocksuckers for Donny. Elon of course the biggest example there.
PCtranny master race?!
>>726644872>Prices will crash in like a month or twoNo it won't.
>>726644289It's hilarious to think that the ps5 pro is more powerful than 90% of /v/irgin's pc builds
>>726662039lmao at thinking that Donny's thought process extends beyond>he's sucking up to me right now so he's fine
>>726664220>Snoylmao
>>726664365>PC fattielollmao even
>>726664443its ok to cope i am sure you are enjoying the PS5 exclusives, all 5 of them
>>726664597The ps5 is the best way to play any multiplat games under the sunPC gaming is trash, overrated and overpriced
Sony wins
>>726649056Do you remember when Trump didn't know who the fuck Jensen was and the next day he became his best friend?
>>726664220It's hilarious to think that PS5 Pro is slower than iPhone 11.
>>726644367(you) do.
>>726665472OH NONONONO SONYSISTERS???
>>726644289Smart people would buy a bunch of PS5 Pros right now and scalp them on eBay when the price inevitably rises.
>>726652249Yes, yes you are.
>>726665472>passmark
>>726666231you can take a screenshot of any ps5 cpu benchmark score, the result is always funny.
>>726659907grim
>>726644289cant wait for the AI bubble to pophope it happens at the same time crypto shits itself too
>>726665472imagine how much of massive bloat is ios that it needs a cpu better than the current gen consoles
>>726666498It is more than passmark only tests a very limited aspect of cpu throughput. According to passmark Apple's M pro chip are the fastest cpus ever built yet in more varied workloads they lag significantly behind what Intel and AMD make. Passmark is a useful tool but it is not a complete picture.
>>726645292>I don't know anyone who uses ai and therefore it's garbageHi anon, I use AI. Yesterday afternoon I made a program that compares my torrented video files to my re-encoded versions of those video files and only replaces the original ones with the re-encoded ones if they're at least [X]% smaller. I'm in the process of re-encoding tens of thousands of videos and this will save me literally weeks of tedious work manually comparing files. It took about about an hour to write the program and a couple more hours to optimize the UI and then debug it and harden it against edge-cases like inadvertently following symlinks. It's about 1200 lines of code.Earlier in the month I made a custom home automation program that fucks all other home automation systems right in the ass, has no subscription cost, runs locally on my own hardware, and can be managed remotely on my phone. Roughly 1000 lines of code.I also used it developing my game which currently sits at "very positive" with over 5000 reviews and I didn't disclose that I did so because retards like you will instantaneously start calling it slop even though you were happy with it before.AI kicks ass and one day when you're done coping and seething you might understand.
>I only bought 32GB of RAM last year when I built my new rigPrices will go down by the time I actually would want 64... right?
>>726666839it's relatively accurate when comparing x86 to x86
>>726666845Are you holding stock in Nvidia or AI companies?
>>726644289RAM is free if you already have all you'll ever needi won again
>>726666925For casual use 64gb is a huge amount. If you needed that much you would've known and purchased accordingly. or just wanted to consoom
>>726667186You're probably right, I do not do anything that SHOULD theoretically require it but I do like being safe. I am very glad I have 16GB VRAM that shit is way more important.
>everyone saying for years that no need to upgrade all new games shit etc.>RAM prices go through the roof>YOU MUST BUY A PS5 NOW BUY BUY BUYYeah very organic.
>>726667262I 'member having 16gb vram in 2019. Fun times.
>>726665472Don't care loser, doesn't change the fact that a PS5 Pro is still more powerful than most pc builds that /v/irgins have, and that's good enough for me.
>>726644367me i fucking care fuck this nigger world and AIjeets
>>726667460I definitely didn't then, I had a rig from 2015-2024. I built a new rig to play Dragon's Dogma 2 of all things.
>>726652102my family pretty much buy things we need for holidays>chair broken or too old and you dont bother to get one? gift one
>>726646860>hwinfo is hipster tranwareactual mental illness
>>726645850shut up koharu
>>726667474my computer is not slower than a 2019 phone
>>726664936>the ps5 is the best way to play any multiplat games under the sunNot unless steam and emulators stop existing
>>726648291Accurate post. Tech companies are simply using the blueprint set by the banking cartels.
Feels okay man. I got my CPU, mobo, and RAM for free so it feels even okayer.
>>726644289>PLEASE PLEASE BUY OUR USELESS FIVE YEAR OLD BRICKNo. Already got my 6400mhz C32 64gb ram and genning some AI gooner stuff. I'm never buying your overpriced piece of shit.
That ram isn't even good. Seems to be samsung which is not what you want (hynix A-die and M-die is better).
>>726669261You can probably get some more out of it by tuning. I pushed 6000CL32 to 6800CL32 (overall lower timings).
>>726668357Not much would change for me if steam disappeared. I could still play 100% of my games.
>>726669380Yea I know, but I'm holding out on any overclocking/tuning until after like year 4 or 5 of owning this rig. I was holding on a 1070/i7 6700 for until last year because of AI.
I am genuinely just so fucking sick of this shit. Everything, fucking everything just continues to get worse and worse.
>>726668815That's a huge blessing I would be swinging my from my ceiling fan
>>726661687based local model enjoyer
>>726659294>>726669261Forgot to say, I've saved around a couple thousand minimum just from this year alone thanks to AI so I'll continue to enjoy my gooning machine.>shitty artLiterally does better than 90% of the art I commissioned. Not even kidding.
>>726669591That's stupid. Running at stock can be less safe than tuned (like with raptor lake). Motherboards can push dangerous auto-voltages if you just enable the XMP. So you should definitely doe some manual tuning to make sure all voltages are safe and gain like 12% free performance.
What do people mean when they say "AI is a bubble"The way I see it, it just keeps getting better and better and will replace most people in a decade tops, I can't see how this could collapse
>>726670645wtf really? 7800x3d btw.
>>726644425Trump got elected and trumpengoyim will do everything to defend their orange pedo.This is the great reset. You will own nothing.
>>726645850Stop embarrassing us! Every sensei is an "unc" you goose
So now that nobody will be able to afford better gaming hardware ever again, will devs finally learn to optimize their games?
>>726671207Actually they will. Recently normalfag FPS games have tried to get higher frames on low end hardware.
>>726644367You do or you wouldn't have replied
>>726671207Nope, at best, the game engines themselves will either be updated to have better performance or the GPU drivers will. Devs will not and will continue to not give a shit because most consumers don't actually give a shit as long as it's (somewhat) 30fps.
I have a Switch 2, PS5 and Xbox Series XShould I get a PC?
>>726670836With 7800x3d you might not be able to push much higher in terms of frequency but some timings like tREFI can have a big impact on performance.
>>726644771Nu-uh! Ai will laser innovate the world, robots will work and we will finally be kangz!! Pls ai bubble don't burst, tanks.
Bros I’ve been using a 1080 p tv for ten years is it worth it to upgrade to a 4k tv? There’s one on sale I’m thinking of buying.
>>726672649i have a ps5 plugged into a 1080p tv from 2009not getting rid of it until it blows up
>>726672318alright thanks, I'll fiddle with the voltage at least.
>>726644289did someone from a big corpo think that ram is vram?
>>726645410You guys told me AI was garbage and wasn't going to last.
>>726674428the bubble is popping soon.
>>726674428you're watching a dying animal wildly thrash around
>>726674676>this time for real>this time for real>this time for real
Would you look at that. AM4 IS still $40 for 16gb of ram
>>726644289is there a ps5 hack maybe ill get one
>>726644648>scamazon64GB of DDR5 6000 was 300-400 AUD when I bought my kit. Those kits are now $800 AUD. Your shitty scam pick is just funny>ships from scamstoretotallylegit broLMAO
>mfw hand tuning RAMI did it once for funsies but i'm never doing it again. I'm not trying to top any benchmark scoreboards so fuck doing it again.
>>726655848>and then the profits come" somehow.no, profits will never come. optimisations will come. we really don't need 8 billion people anymore, so we can optimize maybe 6 billion of them out, they cost too much money.
>>726644289who the fuck needs 96gb of ram?
>>726655848>when you base your business model on the underpants gnomes from south parkGENIUS
>>726670783they're meat golems who repeat whatever retarded influencer they're currently parasocially attached to is saying. these are the same people who saw a market correction on NVDA and thought it was a "bubble popping" when in reality it was because gemini 3 swept every other ai model using TPUs instead of GPUs and jewgle stock hit a record high.just let them be wrong. they will never admit it, and that's fine. why not let retards crash and burn? it's not anyone's responsibility to protect luddites. just let them fall behind.
>>726667769That's you, actually
>>726677925This anon gets it.
>why would anyone need 96 GB of RAMHave a lot of tabs in your browser, run virtual machines, edit images, compile software, play with AI, have your OS cache game files in RAM improving load times for games and everything else.I would say there is no reason not to go for 96 GB, but with the market being completely fucked, I guess there is one reason.
>>726678395>trannies drink water, so that means we should all stop drinking waterthis is what you sound like btw
I don't even remember how much RAM I have on my PC. there's literally no reason to care when there hasn't been a game worth playing released in the past decade
>>726678669Last time I saw this much projection I was at the cinema.
>>726678881I guess I was projecting. I take it you don't drink water? Do you drink tea or soda exclusively or something?
>>726645410>224 thousand dollars>not gouging
