what
>>726693158Demand and supply.Please wait until there's either a massive crash with AI shit or a AI shit paradigm shift.
need it for handling large datasets.unfortunate. gamers truly are the most oppressed race.
>>726693158So fucking glad I upgraded last month. Dodged a fuckin bullet
>>726693452same holy shit
>>726693452I genuinely thought RAM was gonna stay stable, so ive been putting it off
>>726693158who the hell buys rgb ram? I'm waiting to build a new pc until next year
>>726693507I just did it on a whim. I had no idea anything like this was even a possibility.
>>726693158Ram being the most expensive part of a PC build was not on my bingo. That's also why I just stick to total market stocks vs individual
>>726693650its just wild to me that AI needs it RIGHT NOW and seemingly didnt before
>>726693452My only regret was not shelling the extra for 64GB of RAM, but man did I get really lucky, especially because this is the very first PC I've built.
64gb ddr5. I remember when these were bundled with AM5 motherboards and cpus. lol
>>726693692I can understand them gobbling up GPUs but the fuck do they need regular RAM for
>shitcoins ruin the GPU market forever>fartificial shitelligence makes it even worse>now RAM is being gapedThese bubbles need to fucking pop NOW
>>726693876Regular consumer DIMMs aren't going into a datacenter, retailers are either just price gouging because they know restock supply will be low, or scalpers are buying them out for the same reason.
I'm still okay with 32 for now thankfully
>>726694010Even if they aren't buying the exact consumer sku, obviously whatever the fuck they've ordered has eaten into the production of everything else
>my RAM sticks are now 4 times the price of what I paid for themAbsolute insanity, it actually makes me wonder if this is violating some sort of consumer law because there's no way this isn't raising some political eyebrows somewhere.
this is so fucking stupid
>>726694187>>726694175>>726694160small price to pay for the wonders of AI
>>726694213get raped
>>726693158wtf I hate AI nowmaybe the trannies were right
>>726694213To be fair I do use Claude Code at work and on my hobby project all day
I need this for AI porn
>>726694262you're fucking ungrateful, luddite
What fucking vido game requires 6400 mhz memory sticks?
>>726693583gpus, ssds, and ram chips are all expected to go up next year. buy pc parts now stupid goy
>>726694286
I wanted to skip DDR 5 to DDR 6 anyway. I guess I rock AM4 until I die at this rate.
>>726693583They usually put rgb on the faster sticks anyway. The cheap, slow shit usually never has it.
ALL OF THISFOR A MACHINE TO GATHER AND SPIT OUT A SUMMARY OF REDDIT POSTS
>>7266943316000 cl30 is the ideal for am56400 cl32 is basically the same thing
>>726694384when is AI going to use 4chan as a primary source?
>bought a 32 gb 3600/cl16 ddr4 kit a year and a half ago for under 100 bucks>check price today>same kit is 180 bucksbuddy was recently trying to talk me into upgrading to a 9800x3d or 9950x3d as if i'm gonna spend a grand to get maybe 15-20% over my trusty 5800x3d at 1440p
>>726694487Probably never, 4chan threads are temporal and get lost unless you use the archive websites, which means training your machine to filter out the goreposting spambots.
>>726693158Something's not adding up. The AI boom has been happening for well over a year now. Why the sudden spike in price during the holidays? Don't the AI data centers already have deals directly with Nvidia and other tech companies? Did they all suddenly decide to buy up consumer stock in last few weeks? Wouldn't the rise in price have happenedly slowly over the year if that was the case?Feels like a cordinated scheme. Did discord scalpers unleash all their bots right as black friday was about to happen?
>upgraded in the late augustholy fuck I dodged a bullet
>>726694649OpenAI just reserved like 40% of all RAM hardware the last few days
>>726694649>Feels like a cordinated schemewelcome to the (((economy)))
>>726694649A few companies got a yuge round of VC funding and bought up all available wafer allocation at every DRAM fab in the western world
>>726694729doubling down i guess
haha...
>>726694398yeah but what vido gem requires it
>>726694487pretty sure reddit was the chosen one because of its volume of content. 4chan is transient, twitter has always had a character limit, facebook is just little blurbs. people will dump their entire lives onto reddit, they are probably SEVERAL subreddits for the most obscure, mundane topics. it was simply the deepest well, by a large margin.
I sure am glad we have a functioning government and not a bunch of old fucks bought out by oligarchs who give them carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they want
>>726694859don't worry one day we will be the old boomers torturing the beta generation
>>726694816trust me that you want your ram to be as compatible with your cpu as possible in terms of latency and clock speed, usually each cpu has a list of qualified ram that is verified to work with it but its only am5 that ever gave me issues when I bought ram that wasn't up to snuff, I'm now stuck with undervolted ram otherwise my system is completely unstable.
>>726694859Shut up liberal
>>726694956lolno, boomers are giving your wealth away to browns and niggers
>>726694649>OpenAI buys a fuckton of RAM>everyone single other company interested in AI panics as they believe there might be a shortage happening, they also buy a fuckton of RAM en-masse>RAM companies see money signs and dedicate almost all of their production to AI companies since they pay better than the normal consumer>AI companies don't have enough, they start hoarding consumer-grade RAM too>RAM shortage everywhere, which spikes consumer-grade RAM prices through the roof>already forecasted to affect GPU to the point Nvidia might either halt production of the 5000 Series to entirely focus on the 5000 Super line, or delay the Super line and minimize GPU productionCoordinated or not, we're once again at the mercy of billion dollar corporations circlejerking about the brand new fad and making everything worse for everyone. All for shittier search engines that make things up 50% of the time, like Google wasn't shitty enough already. But hey, might as well use some of these AI engines and generate as much hyper degenerate AI porn you can.
>>726693158Didn't China already dab all over openAI with their own LLM model that was 10x better with only a fraction of the cost? Didn't Sam Altman have one of his cofounders killed because he was about to whistleblow on the entire company that their entire LLM model was never going to reach AGI and they basically had to rebuild it from the ground up to get it right, but it would tank stock prices so he had to be disappeared?
>>726695428doesn't matter the AI grift is still going full steam ahead
I buyght'ed this about 3 years ago. I don't think it's top of the line but I don't know much about ram
>>726695428Oh look, an idiot that believed Chinese dogshit. What happened to RedNote?
>>726693158That's insane. I bought this for $360ish like 2 months back.
>>726695496its literally just more fake money to make real money>oh trust me bro you want all the data we have on the users its very valuable pay mefake money into real money>bro i made my PC run for 76 hours to make this, now it has to run for 100 to make another this is very valuable pay mefake money into real money>bro trust me this AI is gonna do everything its gonna do everything AI is the future pay mefake money into real money
>>726695428all LLM benchmarking/testing is a lieLLMs have not gotten better in over 3 years
Crazy how technological progress now only makes life worse. At one point the opposite was the case, kind of a shithole country and society to perpetuate this sort of thing.
Ai better be able to suck my dick if the prices of everything is going to go up
>>726695865for a monthly fee
lads should I build an am4 system to save money? I just wanna upgrade from my laptop
Bombing data centers should be a moral obligation. They even make civilians shoulder the operation cost.
>>726693158You only need 4GB of RAM.
>>726696150games require 32gb minimum now
>>726695951from some of the open-air layouts i've seen, you wouldn't need bombs, just give a drone a small payload of gallium or mercury to spray into the cooling systems, chemistry would solve the rest
>>726696208>falling for jewish lies
>>726696242your funeral noob
>I CANT AFFORD RAM FOR GAMING NOOOOOO!>meanwhile DDR4 3200mhz 16gb ram is everywhere for $35-45 usedWow its literally a fucking nothingburgerAM5 is a pointless socket unless you plan to build a $4500 4K Gaming PC which is AM5's entire purpose, if so, you have the money to spend anyways on overpriced $400 RAM.Why the fuck would you build AM5 when 1080p/4k are the only resolutions.1440p is a MEME 13 ppi difference for a marginally sharper image which you barely notice.I will upgrade my CPU to a 5800X3D in 5 years for cheap and a sub $300 7900XTX, and you will COPE
>>726696334>usedwow you really want AIDS that bad huh
>>726695823reminder that the invention of the cotton gin dramatically increased slaverybut also we live in the best conditions in the history of the world, you have air conditioning, personal vehicles, cheap food delivered to your door or fresh meat/produce from local supermarkets, access to the entire history of the world and every piece of information that's ever been discovered on a handheld device that fits in your pocket, medicine and medical procedures that allow people to live 70-100 yearsyou're delusional if you don't realize we live in basically the best country in the best period of time in the history of the world and the fact that you're able to post your opinion that it's shit to the world over the internet and not be killed by some ruling class for talking shit about them is testament enough to that fact
>>726696382RAM rarely dies unless you're using a shit PSU that fries it, or it's a commodore 64 with MT ram.
>>726696150>You need 4GB of RAM to use an internet browserftfy
>>726696452I've had a RAM module ruin the slots on a board before. It's much rarer though.
>>726696939What sort of uberchink ram was this?
The absolute shitstorm surrounding ai is the best part about it lol
>>726696334>Wow its literally a fucking nothingburgerYeah, sure is a "nothingburger" when all ram worldwide has increased 100-300% in price in just 1 week.
>>726698037Hynix
Why do you guys have 64gb sticks? 32 is already overkill at this point. Most of you guys are just purely gaming lmfao seems unnecessary
>>726693826That's how I got my 64gb ddr5 from a microcenter bundle two years ago.
I've been putting off building my PC for years. Been wanting to customize the case, get a better CPU and more RAM + Storage. I have an RTX 4060 which works reasonably well but I've been having issues.Been hearing PhysX (32bit) support has been dropped on the 5000 series and 95% of games don't work now.How fucked am I?
>>726698524i have 96gbif prices ever go down gonna get 256gb just the lols
glad i bit the bullet
>>726694213This
>>726699330There's only a handful of physx games worth playing, and it's only a nice-to-have even then. You might as well be sad you cant use soundblasters meme tech from the early 2000s as well.
wtf are these prices LOLso getting 256gb to dab on niggers
>>726694649New development that allows efficient offloading of large AI models on slower computer RAM while still being effective
>>726699491yeah and then what? Whats gonna be the next scam!?
Holy fucking shit I thought this was just a meme but goddamn, $700 AUD for 32 GB of RAM I guess building a new PC in march actually worked out but for the wrong reasonsI thought the tariffs were going to be the cause of PC parts skyrocketing so tried to buy ASAP
>>726699518It's not a scam, anyone with a decent $1000 GPU and $350 worth of August 2025 RAM ($1500 in November 2025 dollars) can now use 100GB models
What does it feels like building a PC in 2026?
>>726699628its a scam, what uses does it actually service? what does it ACTUALLY do?>cant do much besides short clips/porn>useless in terms of replacing anyone>has to be handheld by indians>indians have to be handheld by the aiits quite literally a spam, ive run it locally so what it has niche uses and everyones thinking its some miracle AGI
>>726694649>Feels like a cordinated schemethat's because it ispropose something ridiculous, people get outraged, the outrage dies, the outrageous is the new normall this amounts to is a test of what we're willing to put up with and whether we're willing to do anything when they are caught pulling shit like thisyou won't do shit
>>726701457you can spam /v/ with shitty webms
>>726701767done that, cbf its boring
>>726693158what the fuck, that's insane. fucking hell
>>726694649>Feels like a cordinated schemeits a possibility>spend billions on developing AI models that get surpassed by competitors in weeks>desperate for some kind of scalable moat you buy so much RAM you cause a giant shortage and price hike that makes it almost impossible for anyone else to build data centers.>all of a sudden you regain the competitive advantage on compute.>keep buying up all the RAM, keeping compute costs so high nobody else can compete.
Are they ever going to figure out how to expand production of computer parts? Just build a new factory nigger
>>726694649Shartmerica is generating trillions of new dollars and investing it directly into ai because so much has already been invested that unless it becomes profitable it will crash the entire global economy with another giant financial bubble. AI has made 0 money
i am so fucking sick of techbro bullshit
>>726694809>Google>Leaves Chink market>Still number 1>Samsung>Leaves Chink market>Still number 1>Nvidia>Leaves Chink market>Became number 1>Micron>Leaves Chink market>Becoming number 1Hmm... I am noticing.
>>726702069the US government will bail AI out
>>726702050Takes around 7 years to build facilities. The one near me took a decade to build and they won't actual start turning out product till 2030.
>>726702118By devaluing their currency even more by printing more of it?
>>726693158>bought 128gb 2 months ago for ~250 USD so I could run terrible local AI on my gaming computer>now it's 900 dollarsHahaha, how horrifying. I wish I went for 256 now.
>>726695327>But hey, might as well use some of these AI engines and generate as much hyper degenerate AI porn you can.Excelt payment processors keeo banning it to the point generator sites like Civitai won't let you coom anymore. Local generation will rape 70%er potato PCs.
>>726702050Operating critical semiconductor machines actually takes a year of practice, training, and experience to not fuck up the yields. You don't get that type of high IQ personnel out of nowhere for slavery wages except a few place like Taiwan.>t. works in semiconductor
>>726694001>These bubbles need to fucking pop NOWThey only exist because the central bank is printing unlimited money to prop them up.Why don't leftoids understand this?
all this for glorified chatbots and image generators lol
Why do you people still support central banking after realizing they are primarily responsible for not only the AI bubble but ALL bubbles?Your wages and savings get devalued so stocks and housing can be pumped to astronomical values by endless money printing.We should have a natural steady deflation over time, instead we get endless inflation.END THE FED
>>726702512>deflation>Hmm, I COULD buy this RAM now... or I could wait six months and it'll be even cheaper! Well, I don't really need it, so I'll just wait and get my cheapies.>six months later>Hmm, I COULD buy this RAM now... or I could wait six months and it'll be even cheaper! Well, I don't really need it, so I'll just wait and get my cheapies.>repeat forever>economy explodes
>>726695604Better than your literal Jewish gay dogshit, lmaoooooo.
>>726702631deflationary spiral is a mythPeople will at some point buy the product even knowing it will be cheaper in the future.Consumer electronics fell in price for decades yet people continued to buy them.
>>726696334>used>eBayYou're not playing Russian roulette, you're sticking your head inside of a cannon.
>>726702631meanwhile shitty AAA movie games sell 6 billion copies in a week even though they'll be 50% off in 6 months
>>726693158You voted for this.
>>726702631t.
>>726693158big corps need all the supply so they can give us ai slop videos and pictures
>Black Friday Dealgrim
>>726702631>inflation>Hmm, I can't afford to buy this RAM now... I have to work six months to save enough after expenses because my wages haven't grown to match inflation! Well, I don't really need it and I need to make ends meet so hopefully it doesn't become too expensive.>six months later>Hmm, I can't afford to buy this RAM now... I have to work six months to save enough after expenses because my wages haven't grown to match inflation! Well, I don't really need it and I need to make ends meet so hopefully it doesn't become too expensive.>repeat forever>economy explodes AND you're poor AND own nothing
>>726703194i didn't though
>>726703194Not really.That would happen regardless of any of the two (2) insanely corrupt parties in power.This is not the trump price war shit, this is literally OpenAI buying all the RAM sticks off the market and causing a massive in balance in the offer/demand scale.
>>726694649>cordinated schemebecause it is retard, a ponzi scheme
>>726703549What's their end goal
>>726703770get bailed out by the government
>>726703549How is this legal?
>>726703549All rare elements on Earth being part of electronics they own or run AI on.
>>726694649OpenAI is literally hoarding the undiced wafers by the millions and they can't even cut and package them. They're just hoarding them for the future to starve out their competition.
>>726704161>OpenAI is literally hoarding the undiced wafersNothing in your image even suggest that
RAM was the one thing I wanted to upgrade on my pc
>>72670409870% or more of the rare Earth elements are from China, so if China stop selling them the World economy shit the bed, it would so funny for something like that to happen
>>726703924More like buying out the government
>>726704094everything the Corporations/Billionaires and Government do is legal because they have the power, if average Joe want power he should burn it down
>>726694001>These bubbles need to fucking pop NOWSorry luddite, USA will make AI mandatory. Trump posts these videos on his official facebook page, so expect the bubble to inflate at least threefold.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HVKZ9PzQWyI
Crypto 2.0
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5616134-trump-executive-order-ai/>Trump is considering an executive order that would direct his administration to sue states and withhold federal funding over AI laws, according to a draft obtained by The Hill. A White House official noted in a statement Wednesday that “discussion about potential executive orders is speculation” until confirmed.>Under the order, Attorney General Pam Bondi would create an “AI Litigation Task Force” focused on challenging state AI measures on the grounds of violating the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.>The Trump administration is framing the push in the context of competition with China to dominate AI, arguing in the draft order that U.S. firms “must be free to innovate without cumbersome regulation.”you lost, trannies
>>726704448Kay, Jew.
>>726696150you can't run win 11 with 4gb of ram
>>726703549>>726703924>>726704094>>726703770It's all because of the money printing.Every last part of it.Abolish central banking, it's that easy.
>>726702631>>726702512>>726703347>>726703040usually hyperinflation couples with deflation, so it goes up and down up and down on repeat crashing the economy with no survivorsexample)jugoslavija
>>726704094They've convinced the government that the AI race is an existiential one and that we gotta beat the chinks by any means necessary.
>gpus get retardedly expensive>wait for the price to come down>it just goes up moreoh ok
we should drain the sun of its energy to power out AI data centers
>>726704448>no regulation for AI trannies>trannies losthuh
>>726694649You will often see large buys like this before a crash.
why do zoomoids seethe about AI?
>>726693251Supply and demand isn't real (mostly)In fact, when demand goes down, shareholders (who control society and make all the decisions under capitalism) say to just stop producing the thing and charge even MORE money from a smaller amount of customersThis is how capitalism worksIn 2023 when NAND got too cheap, the ~5 companies on Earth (Samsung, Micron, etc.) just agreed to stop making NAND and not sell for low pricesIn 2022-2024 when egg prices doubled, actual egg production dropped by only less than 2%, the avian flu had almost no impact, that was a a lie that even the mainstream media told
>>726705047They are forbidden to use it in school. And their future careers are kneecapped by AI. Millennials don't care about school rules, they're past that. Boomers just like green line goes up.
>>726705047why ar jeets so in love with ai?
>>726705063>say to just stop producing the thinglmao what?Then other companies come in, increase production and take their market share.You're retarded.>This is how capitalism worksSocialists have zero fucking clue how capitalism works.>In 2022-2024 when egg prices doubledpic relatedYou people have nothing but baseless conspiracy theories. There's countless egg companies out there, the idea that they collude is insanely retarded when a single company can just lower prices to take market share and profits from other firms.
>>726705063>In 2023 when NAND got too cheap, the ~5 companies on Earth (Samsung, Micron, etc.) just agreed to stop making NAND and not sell for low pricessource?
>>726705264>Then other companies come in, increase production and take their market share.Do you know a captured market is? Do you know what consolidation is?Literally 2 companies control payment processing, Visa and Mastercard, you can't just "make your own payment processor" and compete.Literally 2 companies control x86_64 processors, AMD and IntelLiterally 3-5 companies control GPUsLike 5 companies control NAND and DRAMThey're not actually "competing".>>726705318https://www.extremetech.com/computing/report-samsung-throttles-nand-production-by-50First link, didn't read, it's not a secret though.4TB NVMe SSDs costed $130 in 2023, they're now like $230 at cheapestMy entire life, HDD/SSD prices only got cheaper $/GB
So for the Steam Machine we can expect an extra $1000 added to the final price, right? Should be about ~1799 total.
>>726703194>he thinks it matters who he votes intwo wings, they belong to the same birdyour life will get worse no matter who wins
If there's a nearby datacenter in your location, what will you do?
>>726705725Nothing, just like you and everyone else itt
>>726705063>This is how capitalism worksJewish monopoly and nepotism not capitalism
>>726693158How reliable is Walmart for SSDs? I found one that is ~30 bucks cheaper than everywhere else, says "sold and shipped by walmart." Do I just pull the trigger right now or is Walmart not trustworthy?
>>726706852Walmart is about as trustworthy as it gets You can return it through the end of January right now if you get buyers remorse
>>726693583faggots who have light shows inside their cases
>>726705513>They're not actually "competing".lmao then why is intel crashing and AMD dominating when it used to be the opposite?>https://www.extremetech.com/computing/report-samsung-throttles-nand-production-by-50Just states it was Samsung followed by one other company. This doesn't mean they were colluding. There are a multitude of reasons why companies would slow down production.>My entire life, HDD/SSD prices only got cheaper $/GBIf this is true then that means businesses are competing with each other to lower prices and everything you said about this never happening is horseshit.
>>726707043>This doesn't mean they were colluding. The NAND and DRAM companies absolutely collude and price fix, there's been numerous lawsuits and they have obviously never stopped>There are a multitude of reasons why companies would slow down production.The reason is1) They don't have to spend money producing it2) Prices go up= more money for their shareholders, are you retarded?
>>726707043https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandalNever stoppedCheaper for them to just deal with the lawsuits than have consumers pay cheaper prices because of """over supply""".
>32gb DDR5bros...just how over is it for me
>>726707307>there's been numerous lawsuits and they have obviously never stoppedSource?I find this hard to believe since prices have fallen for fucking decades.>= more money for their shareholders, are you retarded?If this were true it would happen all of the time, but prices for consumer electronics have radically decreased over the past few decades, despite the endless money printing.>>726707371>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandalI'm sure isolated events like this happen but it usually doesn't last long and prices eventually come down. The government should go after them more.Either way, in general we need freer markets in general
Someone explain to me why SSDs are more in danger of getting fucked up by power outages than normal hard drives are. Do I absolutely have to get a UPS if I put a couple SSDs in my server?
I still dont see how AI add to anything Elon did it right by making AI waifubut its still wont let you ERP with it
>>726706852They sell the same shit, Western Digital is a longtime reliable company for storage, my external HDD is WDCrucial is a bit cheaper and a-ok in my experience, both my M.2s are CrucialWhich one are you looking at?
>>726707442>isolated eventThere's 5 fucking companies that control NAND and DRAM, they literally cooperate to keep prices high and supply low, they literally just stop producing it if prices get too lowIt's never stopped, it's happening right now. You are so brainwashed.- Samsung- Hynix- Micron- Toshiba- Western Digital
>>726707528investors think we're in a sci-fi novel and we're 2 weeks away from creating silicone life
>>726693158Thank god I already own a computer with 96gb of cl30 ram.
>>726707582>There's 5 fucking companies that control NAND and DRAMLook at pic related.Where is the collusion? lolEvents like this are isolated because they last a few months max and prices inevitably fall again.These companies should be prosecuted for this, but it's clearly not the end of the world.
>>726693583You buy whatever's a good deal and sometimes that's RGB shit. Only difference it makes is that you have to spend 30 seconds disabling the RGB.
>>726707678>conveniently stops at 2022Like I told you, prices have gone down $/GB since foreverUNTIL 20242023 was very cheap, that's when they stopped making NAND chips because prices were so low, and now, for THE FIRST TIME EVER, SSDs have been going up $/GB and they have been since late 2023
>>726694001waitCHADS......... HOW LONG SO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR DAWG???!!
>>726707549It's a WD. There's only 7 left so I'm kind of scared of linking it here. I know WD makes good stuff, I'm just a bit concerned that Walmart might do some sketchy shit. But it does say it's sold and shipped by Walmart, so assumedly that chance is low? The only reason I'm concerned is that Walmart is like Amazon in that they let random dudes sell random shit sometimes, but then they'll mark it.
>>726707923Well you could always check in store and then order if they don't have itMine had a bunch of M.2s in the tech section last I checked
>>726693158This shit is fucking retarded. At this rate PC’s as we know them in gaming will totally die. You might actually see the rise of streaming services like Stadia take off if hardware really does start getting more and more expensive.
>>726696334Yeah I have a 5080 with a 12400F CPU and DDR4 ram, and I play every new game at 4k with stable FPS. Not sure why people sperg out over it.
>>726694160>>726693692This is exactly what happened. OpenAI contracted two of the biggest in the industry(samsung, and hynix) for a fucking absurd amount a month. Every month.Not a single bulk order, but both those suppliers now have to divert a signifigant amount of their production to one single company each month.The fucked part is apparently neither one knew the other was contracting until it was all finalized. OpenAI pulled a fast one on them, and fucked over everybody. So if you ever see Sam Altman, kick that fucker in the balls as hard as you can, and make some kind of lame quip about ram theft and ballbusting.
Are prices like this everywhere or is RAM still cheap in Asia?I'm guessing it's no better.Guess I'll just wait.
I don't get it. What about AI is using RAM? I thought AI stuff used your gpu
youre kidding>look it up>amazon lists 230 dollars 2x16 kits everywherewhatthe ACTUAL FUCK
>>726708356germany hereits baaaaaaaaaaad
>How could this happen?
>>726708490>Live footage from federal reserve
>>726705264>Then other companies come in, increase production and take their market share.>just create your own gpu die factory bro
>>726708095It's not gonna die, but the gaming industry is going to go stagnant for awhile as far as "advancements" go, except for one thing.With GPU's going nowhere, the move to SSD-required stalling out, and minimum RAM freezing because only richfags can afford the latter two anymore, get ready for every last new release to need a lot of framegen.
He waited?
>>726709016framegen wouldn't be necessary if AAA devs weren't so incompetent
>16gb ddr4help
>>726708356it's worse in east asia, both korea and japan, because electronics are treated the way something like seafood would be bunch of middle men involved, and pretty sure is china is even worse
>>726707815>>conveniently stops at 2022So your entire argument about capitalism being le bad because all businesses collude with each other to raise prices forever only applies after 2022 for some magical reason?>UNTIL 2024This is when a lot of the inflation from the money printing(which you support) occured.
>>726695531Corsair historically has been mystery meat RAM in any given SKU.I gambled on a 2x16 3600 CL16 kit of that line and got CJR. Not bad since it can do some neat subtimings and can do high frequency easy, but tRFC can't go very low.Too bad my 5900X has a pretty weak IMC and trying to go any higher than 1800 FCLK immediately starts giving WHEA on the desktop.
>>726709675I remember when 8gb was enoughI was struggling with 16gb before my upgradeOptimization no longer exists
>>726693158
>>726703483one is more corrupt and more stupid and icompetent, and that one is in power. "both sides are bad" is an insane cope when you blow your own ballsack off.
>A gorillian dollars have been poured into AI>Yet not a single one is good at Img2vid porn
>>726712156No tools for you goy, but you will pay for the subscription when they set it up(it's restricted to jewish studio porn models)
>>726694001Opening bags of chips upside down is legit thoughever.
>>726693158I just need a few more petabytes of RAM...
>>726712321>Can only make porn of Riley ReidT-Thanks Mr. Shekelberg...
>>726693158Best Buy always had the worst prices possible.
>>726712156Grok, but they patched it long ago. https://files.catbox.moe/69w4m6.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/xheuz5.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/xz63ib.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/yfkcr8.mp4
>>726693692>>726693876Coordinated price fixing. We will never get to know the details as peasant consumers.
>>726702115Yeah: that the entire US market is a single giant bubble. The everything bubble, hell even subprime mortgages are back in the US, with a vengeance... for car loans. And repossessions are at a record high. Oh also: the amount of bookkeepers is at a record low, meaning a lot of companies straight up have none. Which means they can report whatever numbers they want and there is nobody there to doublecheck them. Which allows companies to get away with the wildest claims about their profitability.All the numbers are fake. The money is fake. The wealth is fake. The stocks are fake. The profits are fake. Everything is fake. The US economy on the inside is nothing but a rotting carcass.The AI bubble is just the biggest bubble in this soapy bubble bath that is the US economy.
i just buy sk hymen. its the only thing i can afford.
>>726702118The AI bubble is bigger than the 2008 housing bubble by a HUGE margin, this bubble also affects other industries and the standard of living negatively.The US can't afford bailing them out. Not anymore.Total US federal revenue is somewhat below $5 trillion in 2024, likely much less this year (the tariffs do NOT make up for the tax bonuses and the loss in trade volume, especially should the Supreme Court overturn them... because it means every single company needs to be reimbursed now).But the size of the of the AI bubble now is approaching $3 trillion in debt. The US straight up can't pay that much.
>>726699628We never got this.
>>726695823>At one point the opposite was the caseYou know nothing. Most of you would rope yourselves if you were forced to wageslave during the industrial revolution. The effects on the environment continue to harm us in ways we're still trying to figure out.
>>726704308it sounds like we should... liberate... the Chinese people from their evil government.
Bet your mobo doesn't even support this RAM, you waiting poorfags.
>>726704448they act like AI is some superweapon that they must race to complete before the other guy does. it's like project manhattan but completely retarded.
>>726712827What the fuck is this shit?
>>726713303The debt is mostly taken by the hyperscalers who were making money before the AI craze and are still making money. Zuck spent almost $50B on the Metaverse and it didn't destroy the company. Can't really draw analogies to subprime mortgages at this point.
>>726705063>when demand goes down, shareholders (who control society and make all the decisions under capitalism) say to just stop producing the thingWhy the fuck would you spend money producing something there is no demand for?
>>726699628what game is this?
>>726712827indians are truly repulsive
Well I'm just going to wait.Now is the time to wait some more.The AI bubble will crash in a few years.If prices right now are indicative of what they'll be in a week on Black Friday/Cyber Monday then there's really no reason to buy now because everything is more expensive than it was just a month ago.The gaming industry is the collateral. If these trends continue the video game market will be strangled regardless and there'll be no games developed because there'll be no people who can run them.So it'll be a game of chicken between the not lucrative AI industry and the lucrative gaming industry.
>>726693158welcome to companies wasting money on "AI" garbage no one has use for except jeets. If the bubble bursts it should cool down the prices, but were still gonna be out all the water and money from increased power bills.
>>726717362They will switch to mining Bitcoins
>>726717453>They will switch to mining BitcoinsDon't think that will get anywhere close to repaying the loans they'll just head for bankruptcy and try to walk away with their ill gotten gains.
>>726713303In 2008 housing was the catalyst, but also a cover story for what actually went wrong. It was a banking crisis. It also affected other industries negatively
>>726710253Before they just stopped prices from dropping "too fast", now they're doing it on a how other level where NAND $/GB actually goes up.The biggest inflation hits were 2021 and 2022.>>726714463China has no problem with it, the west complains they produce "over capacity", China says it's just efficient, keep making more, and lower prices and abundance are good.Demand is relative to price, they have prices too high and think "demand is low", when really their prices are just too high.Instead of lowering prices, they just stop making it.
>mwf I was looking forward this Black Friday to uphrade to 32GB RAMI am cooked, aren't I?
>>726703483>>726705663>wow, after having to waste all the little time you are in power on unfucking what the other side did, you failed to improve things!
>>726718097nta but most of that job growth is just illegals and immigrants.
>>726718295Source?
>>726718295Enjoy the new and improved prices, duped retard
>>726693158Do PC part vendors seriously think gamers will be buying new RAM sticks at these prices? Or do AI fags just sweep shops for regular RAM, like it was happening to GPUs and coin miners back in the day? Is there no specialized hardware for that shit? Actually, never mind, don't answer that. I think I already know.
>>726714079An element that is never discussed is some of the richest people in america have Epstein compromat floating around, they see AI as a future method to generate plausible deniability with their crimes.
>32gb ram>but ddr4do i just buy a 5800x3d on ebay and skip am5
>>726704094Roundtripping is actually illegal, it is made legal because the fucking retarded boomers in charge have been convinced that the studio Ghibli slop machine is actually skynet from terminator and they need to build it before china.
>>726719672>do i just buy a 5800x3d on ebay and skip am5Was just about to ask this. Also is it a bad idea to get a used cpu? I don't want to spend $500+ on a new 5800x3d.
I was going to build my first PC but I have mental problems and it's really stressful and difficult trying to decide on components and I haven't been able to commit to anything for over a yearI actually want to kill myself now what the fuck do I do I don't even have a computer
>>726720053I know how you feel all too well. I always get way too invested in the littlest pros and cons and how much everything will cost. It's why I stalled my new pc build for so long and now it seems like I'll be stuck with the one I have for a while.
>>726720151I can't even decide on a new monitor after 12 hours of thinking really hard about it and looking at a shitton of them and doing lots of research this is why I'm a worthless neetI can't function or make simple decisions
>>726693452i was waiting for black friday and my brother convinced me not to lol, i bought my stuff literally 2 days before all this started
>World War III on the horizon>Sudden immediate calls to overdrive our nuclear program towards mass production>AI is suddenly the new big thing with massive datacenters eating up every spare computer part that possibly existsWe're unironically fucked aren't we
>>726693158You don't need 64 gigs of ram, come on now...
>>726720239>Spent days deciding what tv to get since I wanted a new one.>Once I finally decided which one to buy, this whole ram/gpu thing blew up and now I have to not only decide if I should get the TV or upgrade my pc, but also what exact parts to upgrade.>Have to decide before black friday deals end.My brain is very sore.
>>726720053What do you need a PC for? Do you actually have a use case that needs one?If it's just a desire to get into the hobby then save yourself the pain because you're clearly not having a good time with it and get a laptop
>>726693158I KNOW!I just mentioned this to someone the other day. 1 Month ago I got 64GB sticks from BB for 127 DOLLARS!The Price 7Xed the same model.
>>726704448America is genuinely fucked, once this bubble bursts, and it will burst hard, they're plummeting straight to be a 6th world country from 4th world country
>>726720456I just want to be able to datahoard with a powerful machine instead of a piece of shit that freezes trying to open a folder with 10000 files
>>726720053do you really need a pc now? if no then sorry just wait and hope for prices to somewhat normalize, if you really need one maybe consider Valves steam machine if the price isn't completely fucked, that will run most games on steam just fine and is a regular PC, its just made by Valve and works with steamdeck.Or just get a Steamdeck if you just wanna game pc games.
>>726718097You mean those shitty dei hires and all those liberal retards that literally ruined every single industry they attached to especially games?No yeah, die.
So this is what all that cheering for AI to own da libz in creative roles and make gaming great again gets you
>>726720053Unironically buy a Mini-PC. Yeah it won't have the top of the line performance, but it'll still be decent, and they're pre-builts so they've already picked the parts for you, some of them can even be upgraded to an extent later down the line.
OpenAI needs to RAM more than you, sorry.
>tfw RAM prices increase globally to what you were paying anyway because you're country is a shithole with taxes out the asssuffer americano's, welcome to non-american pricing :pI'm smugly sipping my latte and basking in the schadenfreude.
>>726694713>upgraded CPU, mobo and RAM+10tb HDD in January+4070ti last yearI'm set for the next 10 years but damn next year is going to be a fucking slaughterfest
just download more rams retards
>>726720537>DatahoardThen you want to build a NAS server which doesn't need to be particularly powerful, just have a bunch of HDDs, then you can interface with it with any old laptop over local network
>>726720893No joke this is the first time I've ever seen prices in my country's online stores be lower than in american stores, it's actually insane. Like yeah RAM has become more expensive here too, but if you compare the prices to american stores it's less expensive here, for some reason.
>>726720957How to you set that up? What software is used for local network remote data access
>>726712827Good morning Saar
>>726705063You can just call it crony-corporatism, anon. Capitalism died a long time ago.
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>>726721059You install an OS onto the NAS like truenas or unraid to have a Linux environment that includes everything you need, or if you want to be real autistic about it then install Debian and install all the packages yourself MacOS and Windows both have inbuilt 2 minute wizards to connect to your server over local network via your router (just provide the i.p address) then you can browse the folder as if they the server was a hard drive
>>726721552!
>>726719205Gamers dont matter anymore for the PC market. They can all go fuck themselves.
>>726694713Same holy fuck. My 32 GB ram kit I bought for 114 EUR is 500 now on the same website. Had I known, I would've gone for 64
>The shitty DDR4 ram I bought 3 years ago is more expensive todayWhat the fuck bros. All this because AI sloppers want to bring their digital god to life?
PC fats deserve this. No I won’t elaborate.
>>726702512That's a fucking lie. People will just buy more the of the thing increasing their physical wealth and quality of living for the same price. But of course that is literally the thing they don't want so they pretend it's for your own good that you keep getting more poor
>>726722556Whoops meant for >>726702631
>>726693158>tfw upgraded from 16 to 32 just some months ago for like a hundred bucks>tfw I can sell my used 16 GB RAM at a profitB-bros this is too good to be true...
>>726693876>its just wild to me that AI needs it RIGHT NOW and seemingly didnt beforeAll the various types of memory are printed on the same DRAM wafers. Nshitia is pumping out AI GPUs that need shit loads of HBM (high-bandwidth memory). If you only have like ten factories (made up number) printing DRAM wafers and the demand for HBM suddenly skyrockets, you can't just whip new factories out of your ass. So you stop printing DRAM wafers for low margin products like DDR5 and print more high margin HBM wafers.And the DRAM cartel (SK Hynix, Micron, and Samsung) aren't going to do anything to alleviate the issue, they have been caught and even fined hundreds of millions of dollars by the US and EU for price fixing the DRAM market multiple times... So they are on cloud nine right now.
>>726694649>US investing a comically large amount of money into AIand also>people found out through pewdiepie you can set up your local LLM which will be uncensored and airgapped.>you can set it up even if you don't have a GPU, offloading the model to the RAM will still give you around ~5 t/sand here we are.
>>726693158chinks
>>726719782shit if you can find one new that'd be great. frequently bought used when i was a broke college student and that required i read a shit ton of reviews beforehand before pulling the trigger, goes w/out saying
>>726707442>The government should go after them more.>Either way, in general we need freer markets in general
>>726712827Honestly more grotesque than shitting dick nipples.
>>726723812>you can't be in favour of free markets unless you love having a couple megacorporations abusing monopolies to completely lock down the entire planetIt's been known for a long time that the free market has two mortal enemies. An overreaching government, and megacorporations. There is an achievable middle ground here
>>726703040Consumer electronics also improved for decades, so it's a shitty measurement.
>>726720683You mean you think the ragebait slop you get fed on social media is what the world is?No yeah, rejoin reality
>>726693158hahahaha what the fuck
>>726724141too bad both are huge in the US
>>726693158Lmao
>>726717571>In 2008 housing was the catalyst, but also a cover story for what actually went wrong.This is a good point. While AI might be the catalyst and the cover story for the current price increase, the imminent price increase is probably something bigger and more systemic, such as the trade war and the decoupling from China manufacturing.If so, it's going to get a lot worse and prices are going to skyrocket even once the AI race ends/fails. Because at the end of the day China manufactures most things including stuff for nvidia or whatever.
>>726726456>it's going to get a lot worse and prices are going to skyrocket even once the AI race ends/fails.Not if Zion Don drops his tariffs.
>>726726601Nta, but he's already saying that if the SC rules against him, he's just going to keep doing the tariffs anyway. Too bad the American system of government supports tyrants in every way, including a standing army at his personal disposal with Congress looking the other way, just as the Satanic founders intended.
who fucking cares you don't need more than 16gb of ddr3 or a 3080
>my ddr4 ram costs 3x as much as I bought itholy shit
>>726694821Funniest shit since reddit is the worst source ever
>32gb of ddr4 ram>ryzen 5 5500>rx 6600I don't need more. AAA games sucks ass anyway
>>726727751>32gb DDR4>6700xt>5600xI want to have the same outlook as you, but my fomo is heavy on my soul and part of me wants to upgrade a bit out of fear.
>>726727996Your GPU ain't gonna cut it I'm afraid. At the most, it will stick around to play counter strike 3.
>>726713914Why are you so evil?
>>726693158Uh-oh, i've been putting off upgrading my 16gigs of RAM for a while now. Did I shoot myself in the foot?
>>726728123A 6700XT is 55% as fast as a 5090 and runs every game well at 1440pIt also costed like $300>mfw consumers paying $1700 for less than 2x performance
>>726728589What took you so long? a 64gb ram was like $150-200. It's honestly nothing especially with the dollar going to shit.
>>726728672Laziness mostly. Surely it's going to go back down eventually....
>>726728770(LOL)
>>726728770In at least 1 or 2 years. You should've really pushed through your laziness lmao. Especially if money wasn't much of an issue. 16gb is genuinely torture these days.
>>726728770Prices going down is deflation and that's badLearn economy 101, what's good for humans is economic numbers like GDP, shareholder profits, creditors earning interest, home values going up, lower corporate expenses including wages, more sales for higher prices (a sign of a healthy economy), etc.
>>726693251But I already waited for crypto and NFTs to crash. Now I have to wait for AI too crash? What's next? Sadly I am starting to think that videogames will never become the target of PC hardware ever again.
>>726705063>Supply and demand isn't real (mostly)In fact, when demand goes down, shareholders (who control society and make all the decisions under capitalism) say to just stop producing the thing and charge even MORE money from a smaller amount of customersthat literally is supply and demand tho. they're decreasing supply to match demand to maintain the price in that case
>>726729778In China they just keep making it and everyone enjoys abundance and lower prices.
>>726729309Prices of individual segments/products going down are not deflation.
>>726730148Okay then prices going up is not inflation
>>726705063>In 2022-2024 when egg prices doubled, actual egg production dropped by only less than 2%, the avian flu had almost no impactUncertainity has a cost. It went down 2%. That's past tense. People who were making decisions how much to increase prices had no knowledge whether it would drop 2%, 0.2%, 20% or 99%
>>726693158Good. It will make even more AAA slop fail due to gamersTM playing on toasters
>>726730205Of individual segments/products yesInflation and growth are twin problems (ie if you solved one you solved the other because they can be expressed using the other one), that are literally mathematically impossible to solve
>>726730551And then gaming will be gated by hardware?
>>726693158>pajeet is still going at it
>>726693452Never been more glad my birthday is in early October, holy shitI almost waited until Christmas
>>726729859>in china they just keep making shit nobody wantsamazing
>>726729673correct, they're not made for manbaby games, they were always a secondary market
>>726718097Clinton had the dot com boom which was completely unrelated to his presidency, retard.
>>726729778>some retarded csuite on the board controls capitalism!nah, jews
>>726696334you know that $50 is twice it used to be too?
>>726730613Inflation is prices going up.The CPI is the official metric used and it's complete bullshitIf a $1000 phone got 3x faster but is now selling for $2000, the phone actually got CHEAPER according to CPIIf a TV got bigger, if a computer got faster, if it has more RAM, then it gets "cheaper" and is deducted from the official inflation statistics.If beef gets more expensive they stop counting beef and assume the consumer switched to chicken and only count that.These official inflation numbers are complete utter bullshit, so what exactly is "inflation" to you?>>726730910There's no such thing as a lack of demand for the vast majority of goods, that only happens with shit like Labubus or other fads that go out of style.There's no such thing as low demand for beef or DRAM.Demand isn't "low", people just don't want to pay those prices. If you kept lowering prices, there would certainly be demand.Capitalists learned the wrong lesson: Just stop producing the product to lower manufacturing costs, instead of lowering pricesThat's not "low demand".
>>726728660Sorry, but it's only 10% as fast in real world performance. My 9060xt blows my 6600 out by being twice as fast, and that's with a bottleneck provided by my 5600. Once you look at driver updates (which amd tried to kill kek), tech like dlss, or even just optimization and RAY TRACING you will see that the 6700 fails to keep up. If valve decides they want to incorporate mandatory rac tracing in their games, it's gg for your sleepy GPU.
>>726731118>mandatory ray tracingThis shit makes my stomach churn. I hate it so much. I shouldn't have to replace my 4 year old card because devs are fucking retarded.
>>726730894You just confirmed the source, do you understand how to read a chart retard?It says they went from like 46 billion to 44 billion eggsi.e. Egg production barely dropped at all, yet shareholders raised egg prices DOUBLE.
>>726731084>There's no such thing as low demand for beefoink oink fatty
Fuck should have gotten 64GB to future proof my new Rig but 32GB should be fine for now.
>>726721036>i like the government telling me what to do versus what the federal reserve tell me thats the only difference between capitalism and communism>>726729778>In fact, when demand goes down, shareholders (who control society and make all the decisions under capitalism) say to just stop producing the thing and charge even MORE money from a smaller amount of customersbecause a profit is a share of the money supply and you have to retain that sharethis is directly cause by inflation and usurythink of money like stocks
>>726731293It's a 5% drop. Not insignificant for a perishable good.
>>726731118I just checked, and the rtx 5070 is selling for just 550€. On the other hand, rx 9069xt 16g is only 377€. Both look like a great deal, but I genuinely don't know a single game that is worth the upgrade from an rx6600 considering that I game at 1080p
>>726731975there was literally a shortage earlier this year for gpus and they have just gone back down to msrp.
>>726693158Bot thread
>>726731652It's about getting 4k 120fps on old games. For me personally, there's re9 that I'm looking forward to alongside routine. I could have possibly played them at lower frame rates, but with the 9060 I can play at max settings like re4 while having a smooth experience.
> What Is a Seller's Market?>A seller's market is a market condition characterized by a shortage of goods available for sale, resulting in pricing power for the seller.>What Is a Buyer's Market?>A buyer's market occurs when supply exceeds demand, giving purchasers greater leverage in price negotiations. Buyers benefit from lower prices and more options, while sellers face stiffer competition.>What is a muh joooos market?>A muh jooos market occurs when stupid retards want to feel like they know shit
>>726731975Uh-huh, never >>726705264
>>726730581>muh gapidalismAs if the same shit wouldn't happen under any other systemWhat's the different between egg prices going up because of speculative market fluctuations and egg prices going up because the government said so?
>>726732129>RE9.That's one of the few games I'm excited for and as long as my 6700xt can run it really well at 1080p, I'll be happy. Godspeed on the 4K. Maybe someday I'll jump ship to that.
>>726732157>don't worry guys, this is just normal market forces at play in a healthy and normal environmentKill yourself fucking moron
>>726732073And years before that, we had multiple price hikes, but it always returned to normal/MSRP eventually. You're only truly in trouble if your GPU dies during the spike, but even then, if you're patient, you'll get a good deal
>>726730930>they were always a secondary marketNo they weren't. In the past we had exotic super computers with all kinds of odd and unique architecture. Then there were render farms for animation studios. And there were high end consumer hardware, which was for gaming. The largest market of these was consumer hardware for gaming.
>>726730581Meanwhile in the Soviet Union all those eggs would be sitting in a warehouse rotting while resources are being shifted to producing extra belt buckles
>>726729309GDP is so fucking gay. It's why jeets can gloat over while their country looks like a dystopian shithole.
>>726731614I actually read the years on the chart wrong, the avian flu started in 2022As you can see, from the chart you posted, there was virtually no drop in egg production, it was 44B to 43.5B or so, even less.There was more of a drop from 2019-2022 with no avian flu.It was a complete lie, and shareholders of egg companies made in some cases 6x their normal profit in the same time period by doubling egg prices.
>>726732347>just normal market forces at playYes>in a healthy and normal environmentNo
>>726732237>you know those comparable market goods you were talking about? eggs and RAM sticks?
>>726732623So why did they decide to lower them?
>>726732831Probably Trump, unironically.They decided to stop pushing their luck before the US government, especially under Trump admin, decided to start doing their job and "figure out" why egg prices were actually so high and hit them with a price fixing lawsuit.
>Bunch of people keep saying that everything is going to explode in price and never get better.>Others are saying that it'll get better.I don't know who to trust. Waiting got me into this mess and im not sure if panic buying or more waiting will get me out of it.
>>726732831Because they're secretly prepping to fuck us and cauae end the world and tommorow they'll turn America into a dystopia cyberpunk state because we didnt complain about them hard enough on an anonymous video game imageboard
>>726732969Pretty much as long as AI companies continue to build data centers the way they are, or OpenAI continues to horde all they can so nobody else can one up-them, then prices for hardware will just continue to get worse. OpenAI is also already hinting that they need a government bailout which is not good for anybody.
you niggas need to get off the internet. you think the world is gonna end cause the RAM prices increased a bit. get real
How big is the jump going from a 4070 to a 5080? Normally I wouldn't consider it but a buddy of mine has expressed interest in building a new pc (awful timing for him) and I could probably resell the 4070 to him to recoup a fair chunk of the cost. He doesn't plan on playing particularly strenuous games, his current PC is just too old and he'll be transitioning it to data storage afterwards.
>>726732969Prices are fine right now, so if you need to upgrade, then upgrade. They'll 100% explode in the near future but will eventually drop. The only question is how badly you need to upgrade. I can personally wait for another 5+ years
>>726733310We are living in the last 5-20 years of capitalism as we know it in the westWe're finally hitting the wall of it becoming unsustainable
Fuck this, I am getting myself an extra 1tb SSD 2.5 this weekend.
>>726733436You faggots have been saying that for the last 50 years
>>7267335282 more weeks.
>>726695327>might as well use some of these AI engines and generate as much hyper degenerate AI porn you can.yep
>>726733436millions must dies
>>726733528actually, 4chan has not been around for 50 years, and I doubt anyone here is over 50
>>726694001Thanks to our fraudulent and homosexual economy as soon as this bubble pops, the rest of the economy collapses under its weight
>>726733419>The only question is how badly you need to upgrade.Honestly I want to believe that I'm fine, but with all this "always on rtx" shit and lot of games have now, I worry that I'll be left in the dust by the time it's too late. Gonna have to stew on it some more I suppose.
i bought this kit for 105€~ in januarynow its more than double the price
>>726693158Tell me gamer man, when are you gonna stand up for yourself and start killing people?
>>726734037and the price jumped 20€ from yesterday to today
>>726734072>t. glowie
>>726734147You are so fucking domesticated. Cattle gets what it deserves.
>>726693158lol the feds broke my 1070 pc for not updating windows now theyre breaking my 1660 super shit pc cus i wont upgradenow i cant upgraderip was my only escape
>>726693445lol not as much as that but it sucks being a normal gamer from the 2000s in 2025everything is set up for wokes and pay pig npcsonly shit that panders to me is old shitosrs is kinda fun but the devs are losers and ironman ruined the game economyi can tell you why its cuz kikerock and vanguard bought everything and keep npcs in happiness bubbles so they can take over the world to rape our kids
>>726733436>We're finally hitting the wall of it becoming unsustainablelol noas long as there are immigrants able to be turned into debt slaves (of which there are BILLIONS yet to be claimed), capitalism will always thrivewelcome to the future of our new Brown Economy
>>726694001cyrptocurrency is illegal and bitcoin was epstein it needs to be bannedfuck donald trump
>>726734195chill bro, it's just a stick of RAM
>>726732702>don't worry, it's normal for your body to feel aches and pains sometimes>it's completely normal even when you're fully irradiated If the environment isn't normal then the forces at play aren't healthy
>>726729673You buy shortly after the crash where you get a bunch of cheap used hardware liquidated from failed startups.
>>726693452Same. Waitfags get fucked
I bought a laptop for ~$150 in August.Seeing "64gb of RAM = $900" is completely pointless to me, in my home.........Who uses that?You?Do you REALLY???
>>726718097nice covid recovery.
>>726732953Was it also trump in 2021 and 2019?
>>726734613>Do you REALLY???yes? even basic image editing uses a ton of RAM from how bloated the processes have becomeit's bad enough where 'only' having 32gb of RAM is considered poorhouse-tieryou 'need' about 96gb RAM for current-day domestic LLM/image/video generationeverything is a spiral of unsustainable increments because we let indians roleplay as software engineers 10 years ago and forgot to end the joke
>>726734460You've swapped normal and healthy around.And yes, feeling paid when hurt is a normal reaction, so if you are in an environment which hurts you a lot you will feel a lot of pain
>>726693158Holy shit. I got my DDR4 64GB for like $150. Yeah it's DDR4 but it works for me just fine.
>>726734613i have 96gb in my home pc, i do dev stuffi would however not pay more than 2-300€ for it
>>726734873Collusion, price fixing, price gouging, etc. is illegal, at least on paper.The government can sue you for it or even break up your company, although this rarely happens anymore since the US government is bought and paid for by these capitalists.They play a game of "can I get away with it and make money for our shareholders before getting hit with a lawsuit". Trump ran his campaign on fucking egg prices, they definitely started self-regulating their behavior at least in part because of that.
Still haven't found a reason to dump my 3080
>>726705063People today are retarded enough to believe they still have democracy.Stupid assholes don't realize lobbying has already replaced any semblance of choice on part of the consumer/slave cattle.Ask a fucking retarded American what AIPAC is, and watch them drool on the ground in denial or sheer ignorance.
Ho le fuck how do I export stuff to the USA? I just saw a 200% Markup on 2 ram kits left.
>>726693158900 DOLLARYDOOS?!
>Bought Kingston Fury 5600 MT CL40 2x32GB RAM Kits for my laptop at a $324 price point on Saturday on Amazon with an estimate delivery date between Dec 2-4>I looked at the same item today which was sold out and the companies there were offering this shit for 2x time the asking price >Today I found the same exact item on eBay from some random seller who was selling it for $299>Quickly cancelled my Amazon order which hasn't shipped yet to buy it from him and I literally got the shipping notification 15 mins after purchase as he sent itI almost got gypped by the market and was saved by fortunate circumstances lol. You're better off buying RAM kits from some courteous eBay seller who won't jack up the prices to shit. Also did I forget to mention my Amazon order would've came later and some of the RAM kits delivery estimates I saw were from Jan-June of next year like wtf is that about.
>>726735745Dude was a nice guy and I'm glad I purchased from his front
>>726735614nvm it says wait time is 6 month
>>726735085>you flipped the wordswhat's your point exactly? These aren't normal market forces at play because the market isn't fucking normal.>aches and pains in an environment that hurts you is normalYou're either missing what I'm saying on purpose, or just retarded. Radiation destroys your body's proper responses and the pain you feel wouldn't be your body responding to normal stimuli, like an ache after you work out, but the death of those responses due to an entirely alien and unanticipated stimuli that can't be corrected or fixed once its happened.You wouldn't try and claim that the East India Trading company was running under free market principles would you?
I hope for everyone using AI slop to be chemically castrated.Scalpers don't even deserve that mercy, cut their balls off with the dullest knife.
>>726704448>we MUST corner the piss yellow foux ghibli slop marker because… uhhhh something something national security reasons
>>726693158why dont these ai companies produce there own ram?
I'm glad that my main PC has my 64GB of DDR5 6000 CL30 and it probably cost me not quite $200. However I do need to rebuild my home server/NAS box and wanted to get at least 64gb so I'll be waiting. >ROBBLE ROBBLE AI The biggest problem here is vacuous faggotry about the idea that "AI" is the problem, rather than "AI projects run by a handful of proprietary megacorps who are locking down models and training into proprietary black boxes, for billions of dollars, to be sold as SaaS to everyone else". This wouldn't be the issue if people were using self hosted local open source AI models, collaborative training LoRAs and the like . So lets not let the patreon faux-artist trannies scream about AI STEELING DONUT STEEL and other garbage. >>726694649Basically, capitalism just capitalism'd. OpenAI (and a few others), flush from huge amounts of venture capital and valuation, not to mention the money they spent lobbying to kiss Trump's ring means they'll be bailed out and given data center projects and other shit, just decided to go to the limited amount of RAM producers and said >Hey, we'll buy all the available stuff you can produce. And all the stuff you already have.So everyone else is now having to make do with the scraps. Its a bit like the time in 2020 when Nvidia was selling GPU dies right to crypto miners directly which jacked up the normal card prices during the 3000 series but even that wasn't as bad as this. So everything else that depends on RAM, including mobile SoC, GPUs that need VRAM etc..is getting crunched and seeing a shortage, prices are being jacked to the moon.
>>726734965>image editing>starts talking about AIbut of course...
