Niggas will watch 100 episodes of Goku saying he must be better but shit themselves in anger when Kratos says it.
Goku never said "it's ok if a woman is a whore and you should raise her children" thougheverbeit
>>726730696I didn't play those dogshit games (new gow)
>>726731031Can you provide a video of in game footage where kratos says it? You put it in quotes so it'll need to be an exact quote thank you
Does Kratos even say that in the game? Legit question
>>726731031But chichi literally was one
>>726730696When goku says it, he means it physically.When nu-kratos says it, he means it in a ‘we must remove our traditional masculinity’ way.
Almost like Goku was always supposed to be a nice well-meaning guyAlmost like Kratos was never a character suitable for preaching about anythingAlmost like Krato's version of "better man" translates to "pussywhipped whiny faggot".
>>726731120Pretty sure Goku never said "it" either. Probably only ever said some variation of "need to be stronger".
>>726731031Kratos didn't say that either.
>>726731203He said " don't be sorry be better" to his son
>GOKUGOKUGOKUGOKUGodModeGod/Tinkertrain...
>>726730696What shit dub were you were watching of Dragon Ball?
>>726731259So you don't have proof cool that's what I thought just always to confirm thanks bye
>>726730696>he must be better>as in “I must become stronger”>shows specifically what he means and shows him actually doing it>meanwhile we must be better as spouted by cucktos>never says what it means>whatever people say it means is contradicted by his actions >literally is just a pawn of everyone around him and is happy about that factNu-GoW cucks are the most insufferable faggots to date.
Because chadku never cared for family or sex, he rather be dead and fight gods than raise his family
>>726731337>one single autist from the GameFAQs forums ruined online discourse for these two series foreverWhat a feeling.
>>726730696>guy who murders countless people tells you to be a better manNah, that's like Jeffrey Epstein telling me not to look at loli doujins.
>>726730696Because Goku is bringing up the concept of self-improvement, which is one of the few universal goods in the world, more often than not specifically tied to physical self improvement. It's a traditional value old as time that Goku takes to the extreme, and is something that both men and women can look up to as a means to better themselves.Kratos is a vehicle for 2025 left wing politics, specifically regarding how the female writers are trying to push the narrative that you should completely ignore a persons past once you meet them and start a relationship with them. Now there is a grain of truth in that because people can change for the better, and everyone deserves a second chance, but it's not quite the same message. And really the fact that it's a heavy-handed attempt at justifying being a whore, pushed through a videogame about a guy who goes around murdering whoever he feels like, comes across as heavy-handed and poorly thought out.
>>726731284This. Which is actually sort of based given the fairly feminist friendly nu-age sequels of the God of War series. It wasn't "be better" in a "be more sensitive" context. It was in a "harden the fuck up" context. Now I don't recall if Kratos was validated in this, or if the game went out of its way to prove this wrong.
>>726730696goku lets universe level threats go for selfish reasons (want for a rematch, stat-padding his son, etc.) and a deadbeat fatherhis motto would be more like "we must be worse men for better gains"
>>726731369I never made the initial claim that Goku said "be better". I'm content to provide no proof while that dipshit claim also sits there with no proof.
>>726730696>100 episodes of Goku saying he must be betterNigga watched the English dub with Superman Goku lmao
>All the retarded kratos posting makes me wanna try out Ragnarok>The line "What your mother did before we met is her business" stems from Atreus wanting to know more about her, her time as a giant>The "We must be better men" line has nothing to with cuckoldry, its Kratos wanting to stop the cycle oe violence and endlessly killing each otherI will never understand this board's obsession with cuck shit.
>>726731679The simple notion of Kratos telling Atreus to "be better" was not some wokie feminist schlock. At least not in a vacuum. Atreus was sperging out, and apologized, and Kratos told him to save his apology and be better. Probably one of the best things a father could tell a son. Many a mother would disagree. Obviously the "better men" narrative overrides this, especially when combined with the "what your mother did before we met was her business" line. Now THIS one was something that might be bad for a father to tell a son for a variety of reasons. Besides the fact that it may very well have come from a feminized place. In the setting of the story, I got the impression that both Kratos and his wife knew more about the other than they were willing to admit, but both ignored it and got together anyway. They decided they liked eachother in spite of the obvious baggage they both carried. Realistic for a woman, less realistic for a man. If it sounded like an irritated cope when Kratos said it, it was probably supposed to. At that time, Kratos didn't want Atreus to know things about his mother. That's my most generous fair assessment of the story. Outside of that, that part was indeed a little feminized and gay.
G? the better man.
>>726730696>but shit themselves in anger when Kratos says it.But he never said that
>>726732686It's just an exaggerated knee-jerk response to hypermasculine characters being repurposed to sell proper lessons on masculinity approved by modernity. The original God of War series was hardly a serious tale. Kratos had QTE minigames where he fucked girls. Now he's having his final showdown fighting tag-team with a stunning and brave goddess. The cuckposting comes across to me as silly and facetious, but thats what you get when you convert a franchise that was a little over the top silly into something that is a bit serious and a little up its own ass.
>>726731369>loses pointless argument>peaces out like a troonHeheh basedfag
>>726731031Goku was a largely absent father and let an alien raise his first born son
>>726733337holy shit u mad
>>726733290But Kratos entire journey is about him constantly being at odds with his violent nature, he says be a better man on one side but has 0 qualms about ripping someone's head off, shit look what he did to Heimdall when they finally face off, the entire spartan rage ability is him saying fuck it and cutting loose.
I am such a better man thanks to Kratos! Cheelai is so happy training alone with Lord Beerus while occasionally dating every OC in Xenovei2 while I watch!
>>726733637I don't disagree with that statement. That is probably what a lot of people were hanging on for, and hoping to see. The problem is that for many, the series lost too much of its campy edginess, and opted for a more "grown up" approach to its themes. Some obviously were okay with that and even appreciated it. Some obviously were turned off by that, and felt dejected by a series they thought they knew. I can see this from both sides. The cuckpoaters probably come off as abrasive shitheads, but in my eyes, they are equally abrasive as the writers of articles that were insensitive to fans that lament the loss of the old feel and identity of the series. Nether making an attempt to understand the other.
>newfags doesn't know about the youtube video
>>726730696Fanfiction dubbed Goku is irrelevant. Goku would see the Gods are strong and say>waku waku someone to fight to the death
>>726732686neil druckman or whoever isn't gengis khanif he existed when literally the betterest most prolific man did, he would not have applauded the cessation of blood feuds and honor killings. you might think he would've because his video games are all about that right, random killing bad cycle of revenge bad, mass education and reform good, killing a few misfits for the sake of empire good. no. he would tell gengis that he's a dumb romantic for trying to stop what happened to his wife from happening to other women and families and tribes. we must go through approved channels. we must diplomatize. we must accept being raped. he lacks the warrior ethos despite being in charge of GOD OF WAR. he'll do anything and everything to keep himself from war and war from him. why on god's earth would he say or do anything else to upset a world tailor made for people like himdon't look up xavier's creators btw
>>726730696Kratis is the same violent murder machine he was when he ucked up Greece, he just pretend he is past that because he has a son now.
>>726732686/v/, pretty notoriously, doesn't play the games they complain about, which makes stuff like this essentially a giant circle argument
>>726731203Yes.
Goku was never like that, you were brainwashed by the anime.
>>726735248He delivers a monologue to his past self at the end of Valhalla, where BOY or anyone but himself isn't even present. He's actually a changed man.
>>726730696Kratos used to murder complex metaphysical concepts like war, wisdom, death, nature and the sea. Now he just wants to take care of his wife's son.His arc is fucking disappointing.Meanwhile Goku is a powercreep and keeps growing
The Goku from the japanese manga is barely different from the Funimation dub. You faggots just don't read/watch shit and just follow meme opinions and youtube essays.
>>726736064>barelyDid you mean to post "incredibly"?
>>726730696>noooo i was told masculinity is toxic nooo you can't prefer whatever you want nooo
>>726731209Chichi married a guy for the sole reason he grabbed her pussy when they were kids. She's a pure maiden.
>>726733427>and let an alien raise his first born sonWell, to be fair to him, Goku was kinda busy during that time. Being dead, and all.
>>726735836What's disappointing about a demigod mastering himself after a life of largely self-inflicted pain?
>>726736136No, I meant to say BARELY you nameBITCH BROWN Redditspacing trannyFAGGOT.Don't reply to me again with your TURD COLORED hands.
>>726731203As he's snapping Baldur's neck, yes.
>>726734306>IESLB>Cuck fantasiesSHITrus lost. Broly and his canon wife Cheelai won.
>>726736343Then you apparently never read the manga. He's someone "who does good things, but is not a good person".
>>726736485...'t ever be canon or official.>BEERUSBEERUSBEERUSBEERUSBEERUSBEERUSMindbroken redditTRANNY self insert AUSTIST.Cry more while Cheelai become Beerus' personal plaything FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES.
>You will never be a real Broly. You will always be "BR:Broly" or "Broly (DBS)". You have no cool bling, You have no sweet duds, You have no based slacks. You wear gayass purple pants. You are a beta man twisted by paints, surgery and gay buzz lightyear color schemes into a crude mockery of Broly’s perfection.>All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Players are disgusted and ashamed of you, they always play original Broly in the roster but never BR:Broly from Super, your “friends” laugh at your shitstained appearance behind closed doors.>Cheelai is utterly repulsed by you. Decades of DBZ consuming have allowed fans to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even fan OCs who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a fan but still look more original than you. Your design structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to fight you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he notices those stupid purple pants of yours.>You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight just like the weight of King Kai's gravity.>Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a ship, tie yourself to it, and plunge yourself into a Black Hole and beg King Yamma to send you to the Home For Infinite Losers. Your father will find you, heartbroken but relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of being the father of a knockoff. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your merchandising name "BR:Broly", and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a fake is buried there.>This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
