The great debate
FFT is cooler
i like both
>>726768506Triangle Strategy
I recently replayed both. Liked Tactics Ogre more, but the customization in FFT is great.
Quest really fucked up and let Square eat its lunch
Ogre is low fantasy, FFT is high fantasy.Both accomplish what they set out to do.
>TO>(you)r sister has a woman moment and almost burns down the continent>FFT>(you)r bro has a man moment
>>726769689Which is worse, though?
>>726769761Kachua almost torches the continent and tries to NTR (you) with Lanselot so her.>even Lanselot and the knights were repulsed by herImagine being such a deranged woman that the villains won't even rape you.
I'll take Catiua anyday over the absolute nothing character that is Alma>quick Folmarv make up a reason for this bitch to be plot relevant>uhhh fucken the stone is reacting to her she's the chosen of saint Ajora or some shit idk
>>726768506Both are 10/10. Both have god-tier OSTs.FFT holds a special place in my heart, but I had more fun with TO.
>>726768851>>726769181>>726769609>>726770727Based both game enjoyers
UH, ALL DENAMFAGS OR DENIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM(does the opposite of your alignment)
FFT. This isn't even a fucking contest. It's not that TO has some things it doesn't win at but FFT gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TO gameplay by like 30 miles. Holy fuck TO has the most tedious dog shit gameplay I've ever seen in my entire life and yeah it may have a top tier story, but having to drudge through that slow ass gameplay is NOT worth it. Anyone saying TO hasn't played TO recently.
>>726772197Which version of TO are you talking about? You can't really say all of them because they are all very different.
>>726772331I'll be honest. I only REALLY played Reborn. The gameplay is so fucking slow and I wouldn't say it's "hard" but it can be very rng? Maybe not that but it's more of if you make a mistake early, well fuck you might've fucked yourself unless you go card collecting but that's another tedious bullshit. I might give the PSP a try but I heard some shit in that is even more tedious like crafting.
>>726772423Sounds like the One Vision mod might be what you are looking for.https://www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1It's the definitive way to play the PSP version.Here is a link to the wikihttps://ogre-db.github.io/one-vision/and the HD texture packhttps://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=26100Enjoy.
My wife is playing FFT as I post this. She's having a great time but she's just about to hit Belias. I think Ill be doing some grinding for her tonight
>>726772949Not that anon, but thanks! Imma grab this and check it out later
>>726772949Is it? I heard OVM also changes some things to make things more autistic. Tbh, I just like FFT because you can just make a juggernaut and just unga bunga through the entire game with Ramza. TO: Reborn forces you to play slow and I'm so fucking tired of it. It's either DOGPILE RUSH the fucking leader and hope to god nobody dies (after 3 turns) or run away and play it super safe and poke from a long distance with magic and shit until your bruisers can dogpile on someone.
>>726769689Mustadio never had a man moment though?
>>726773262One Vision is the most balanced video game I have ever played in my life. This mod has been worked on for over a decade. If by autistic you mean more complicated then yes compared to Reborn there is a lot more thought that goes in to character building compared to Reborn's pick up and play. But unlike Reborn everything works the way it should and you don't have classes like Wizard and Cleric underperforming because they are meant to be used in unintuitive ways. If you don't like putting any thought into tactics games however then the whole genre probably isn't for you because FFT is more like a standard JRPG with grid based combat.
>>726773936hey man i don't mind strategy but when strategy is either >RUSH RISKY DOGPILE THE FUCK OUTTA THE LEADER AND HOPE THEY DIEand>RUN AWAY CAMP AT A CORNERit gets tedious fast. At some point you just want to fucking just fuck shit up instead.
>>726774035Well One Vision will provide near infinite strategies if that's what you are looking for. In Reborn HP numbers are so jacked up that you are required to make use of status ailments like poison and breach to really clear out the map at a reasonable pace. Reborn does suffer from a limited amount of effective strategies.
>>726773262So you don't like tactics and just want to play a JRPG on a grid.
>seal evil 77% chance to hit>miss 3 times in a rowI tought I was playing FFT, not xcom
>>726768506Denam > RamzaCatiua > Alma+OveliaVyce < DelitaRavness < AgriasCanopus < MustadioLeonar > WeigrafLanselot Hamilton > TG Cid
>>726768506DependsFFT without mods has around 70% of shit is pointless, 20% is broken as fuck and 10% is 'balanced'T:O on the other hand, isn't as bad and is around 10% OP and about 70% useful and about 80% shitUnless you mean the demake where they nerfed shit, removed player options and choice and handicapped the concept of fun or needing to build characters, then a fucking game of 'bang your head against the wall' wins over it
Argath was right in Delita's crowning moment
>>726775942Which FFT mod you use?
>>726772949I don't know why you would recommend that when the psp version is way more grindy than reborn
Berwick Saga >>>>> FFT = TO >>>>> Superman 64 >>>>> FE 3H
>>726768506What's there to debate? FFT is better in every way.
>>726778198Even with One Vision the PSP version is more grindy yes but the person I recommended it to was complaining about lack of strategy so I provided a version that offered more strategy. Also "more grindy than Reborn" isn't much of a statement considering Reborn got rid of basically all the grind by removing random encounters and instating a level cap. If too much grind is a deal breaker for you and you don't want to use cheatcodes then yes I wouldn't recommend One Vision.
>>726768506It's crazy how TO and FFT both prove that remakes/remasters can be a good thing. The latest versions really are the definitive way to play these titles.
Why the fuck are idiots here using mods to rank games?
>>726778986I played both reborn and the psp version. my main complains about the psp remake were>crafting sucks>grinding meditate levels so your casters can function sucks>the way stat scaling worked meant that hybrid classes like valkyrie could never properly function as hybrid classesdoes the ov mod fix any of these problems?
>>726768506FFT no question
>>726772423The PSP version was intentionally made to have more busywork since the PSP was a platform for salarymen to kill time with while commuting to and from work. Virtually every Japanese PSP games was like this, while western devs went full retard with it and attempted to cram PS2 games straight onto the platform to mediocre results.
>>726768506TO is a thoroughly more robust game with a better story too, but each version has annoying flaws. FFT is probably easier to approach and enjoy but I prefer TO
>>726779354what were they fucking thinking with the filter in this, it's so bad
>>726779263It fixes all those problems and then some. I am not exaggerating when I say One Vision is the definitive way to play the PSP version. The ONLY issue the mod can never fix is the class based leveling system where new classes will start at level 1 so you will need to do a few random battles or just input a quick cheat code to get the class up to the same level as the rest of your army.
They're both two of my favorite games. TO has the superior plot and characters not to mention routes and amount of content. While FFT plays better and the content is higher quality overall but less of it, story and characters are still great but not quite as good overall. However having a single route/story does help a lot, FFT's ending is fucking 10/10 kino.
>>726768506I only played the PSP version of TO on chaos route and while I liked the basic gameplay, story, impressive worldbuilding and aesthetics, the game is held down by how slow and grindy it is.Battles take ages due to unskippable animations and even though i havent played it i think Reborn is better simply by virtue of 2x speed.Crafting system is the worst ive ever seen, you cant craft in bulk so you can spend literal hours in menus crafting shit and reloading saves when rng decides to fuck you up, it was clearly designed to keep Japanese salarymen busy in their commutes.Balance is off, archers and ninjas are OP and i couldnt really utilize mages bc they keep getting oneshot after getting in casting range and my tism makes me go for no incapacitations.Loot system is retarded and enemies can just steal it or drop useless cards, also you definitely need a guide if you want the cool shit.I dropped it after like 260 hours not counting reloads (PotD alone took like 50 and apparenty you are supposed to go through it multiple times) somewhere in San Bronsa, i think ill come back someday to finish CODA but i dread this day.Also Catiua is a whiny brat, like bitch im leading a war campaign and you get mad bc im not paying enough attention or something.
Love the part of FFT where the final jobs just start ignoring the map design. Truly epic game design.
>>726768506They should have fully remade FFT instead of a remaster. Give Knights Rampart Aura or some equivalent instead of filling their skills with useless shit like equipment breaks.
>>726768506Tactics Advance bros???
>>726768506Advance Wars (AW) dominates FFT, TO and FE anyway. One is an actual game where pure strategic and tactical gameplay matters, the others are glorified jrpg movie games
>>726768562nuh uh
