When and why did racing developers decide we should never get engaging single player modes ever again?
>>727117289They didn't, i'm sorry GT has sucked dick since 4 but it's time to let it go and move on.
Around 2008.I don't know why.
>>727117289because market research shows that only 5% of gamers play the single player mode and devs were spending a lot of time developing it.its over, loner
>>727117483>Make racing games focused in single player experience>They sell gorillions, are immensely culturally relevant>Make racing games focused in multiplayer/online experience>Sales plummet, interest in the genre gets to an all-time lowIs market research a fraudulent field?
>>727117583>Is market research a fraudulent field?Unironically yes. You can spin marketing anyway you want.>That Gearbox cope marketing meeting where every game was listed by sales achieved and then Tiny Tina's Wonderland got mentioned and its accolades were "moved Borderlands to new genres that appealed to new people" or some shitMarketing is pure smoke and mirrors yes-man bullshit to get investors pumping money.
>>727117289>developersOnly Polyphony were that retarded. >>727117483>because market research shows that only 5% of gamers play the single player mode and devs were spending a lot of time developing it.Proof?
Eh I thought nfs unbounded single player was fine
zoomers cant drive, zoomers dont care for cars, zoomers dont go outside.
>>727117391Based, GT4 Spec II is all a man needs
>>727117289>When and why did racing developers decide we should never get engaging single player modes ever again?It happened right around the time all the good devs left the industry during seventh gen and the retards that were left realised they had no fucking clue how to do good AI.Seventh gen was literally the last time anything new was done, all the games you're playing today are built on engines from seventh gen or earlier.
>>727117391>They didn't, i'm sorry GT has sucked dick since 4 but it's time to let it go and move on.I can't man, we need to go back. Does it at least emulate well these days?
>>727117942>Does it at least emulate well these days?yeah
>>727117289Forza Horizon is literally all I ever wanted from GT, just hundreds of shitbox cars, open roads and crazy lineups, once FH6 Weeb edition releases it's literally all I need in terms of vidya.
>>727117289Its not profitable
>>727118047>>727117583
>>727117583>They sell gorillions, are immensely culturally relevant?
>>727118034>all I ever wanted from GT, just hundreds of shitbox carsThe GT devs never understood this. GT for most kids was never about driving bajillion dollar super cars and race cars, it was about driving the cars you *could* get your hands on in ways you shouldn't drive them.Pikes Peak in the Escudo was cool, but doing it in your mums Legacy was even fucking cooler.
>>727118251Gran Turismos, NFS and Burnout were all the rage during 5th and 6th gen (Burnout excepted during 5th gen). GT1 and GT3 were respectively PS1 and PS2 best selling titles.
>>727117289Easier than programming AI drivers
>>727117289Devs got shittier and couldn't, and still can't make decent AI.
>>727118251he's a zoomer but not a vroomer
>>727118374upcoming mod for you https://youtu.be/9wVO8e3N4ik?si=kiLrFSAuME4xX6Hgone of the devs who did gt2 a-spec i believe
>>727118034I've only tried horizon 5 and pretty sure you got expensive cars almost right away.But I didn't play much of it, so don't know or remember if those were required to use to be competitive or if you could use shitboxes
>>727117289because muh onlinefags won
>>727117289The best racing game of all time has already been made!You don't need more.
>>727117289We just had this release this year, anon. Its fun.
gt7 is good and getting a big single player update + expansion next week
>>727117289Because how else will we get you to play the new game instead? Just look at forza horizon as soon new game launches the old one shuts down.
>is one of the worst cars in almost every game that features it in your path
>>727118980this is the correct answer
>>727118604>The team has been hard at work making new cars for Gran Turismo 2 Beige Edition, an in-development mod for Gran Turismo 2 focussing on the unexceptional cars of the world.Absolutely incredible, i'll make sure to keep an eye on this.
>>727119020looks great though
>>727119020It is actually THE slowest car in underground 1 by quite a margin.
>>727118926>gt7 is good and getting a big single player update + expansion next week>always onlineGT7 is a service, not a game.
>>727118980>Just look at forza horizon as soon new game launches the old one shuts down.FH4 hasn't shut down (i'm playing it right now), but they did pull it from sale like the faggots they are.
>>727118816The only weakness of gran turismo is lack of PC ports, decompilation when?
>>727117289Not my problem, i'm playing GT4 and older NFS games to this day.
>>727119151so is your mom pulling tricks on the corner, but i'm not complaining
>>727119136It's also a shit tier car in UG2, MW, and Carbon. I think someone at Black Box just had a thing against the Supra.
>>727119265You're right, GT7 is like a cheap whore. Without the cheap.
>>727119020You posted the wrong pic, here, fixed for you
>>727119265>>727119375A expensive whore with aids*
>>727119265>comparing GT7 to a HIV ridden whore.Spot on really, no doubt you have a scat fetish as well given how much you love eating shit and getting shat on.
>>727119507An*
>>727117289What happened Ameribros? Why did you guys stop making pretty cars?
>>727119581Increasingly strict emissions and safety regulations.
>>727119581semitruck tax loop hole
>>727118251Carmageddon is one of my favorite Racing games ever. Road Rash on SEGA, Rock n Roll Racing cross platform, NFS series, esp. mainstream during the Underground and Carbon era which coincided with the first Fast and Furious movies.Current day kids give much less of a shit about cars in general though. They just an ugly SUV that their mommy is leasing.
>>727119446That's because the Viper is undriveable irl too. 80% of Viper media online are crash videos. It does look very good though.
>>727119581California happen. They forced CARB on everyone (domestic and foreign) to make car that is bigger and more air friendly. So now we have so many soulless looking suvs.
>>727119446Well that's because the Viper is a piece of shit in real life as well.
>>727119789California is the worst thing to happen to the United States since the 19th amendment.
>>727118374>GT for most kids was never about driving bajillion dollar super cars and race cars, it was about driving the cars you *could* get your hands on in ways you shouldn't drive them.Damn, I thought I was the only person in existence who thought this
>>727117289play better games
>>727119768>That's because the Viper is undriveable irl too.Nah it's just a bit more exciting to drive than some, less exciting than a Porsche though, those will straight up try to kill you if you dare think about backing off mid corner.
>>727119446I remember it being pretty decent in GRID 1 or is my memory just failing me? Plenty of worse muscle cars in that game
>>727119581
>>727117393WEF agenda
>>727119920What game?
>>727119768It's drivable, but it barely even has seatbelts. It's designed to kill you.
>>727119994Sun in my eyes the game
>>727120018F355 ferrrari challenge on the Dreamcast
>>727117289Kirby Air Riders just came out last week.
>>727119920>f355Why have a game with a thousand cars, if you can have a game with the *right* car?
>>727119789There are zero (0) automakers based in California, and the automakers were the ones who pushed for it to kill of small car competition, because big SUVs and trucks are more profitable.
All racing games need is a decent progression system. They don't need some gay contrived story. GT4 already nailed it.Honestly the arcade side feeds you into the sim side of the genre and once you're on the sim side you just boot up modded AC and go hotlapping and become a 40 year old dad.
>>727120213>Are you seriously having fun with game with only one car and no unlocks?????>Yes.
>>727119789feel like bigger and thus more weighting car would be less environment friendly. my mom has one of dem suvs 2.5 liter and it chucks gas at same rate as my early 80s 2.8 liter in normal drive
>>727120218Laws like CARB affect the whole market because manufacturers aren't going to make seperate production lines for Euro, California spec, and jap spec cars. They're just going to make the most cucked car that satisfies all requirements.
>>727120234>muh progression>it end up driving a circuit 24722 time to earn enough money to buy the next car.Like, even Crazy Cars got it better than GT.
>>727120048>It's drivableIf by "It's drivable" you mean "you can accelerate it and turn(sometimes)"This shit is a literal deathtrap
>>727119581Blame Obama and California for meddling with the auto industry. It's why every truck is fuckhuge and anything that isn't a truck or sedan is an oversized "crossover" mutt machine.
I have very strong opinions about racing games even compared to /v/ and let me tell you, Dirt 5 is genuinely one of the only good ones to have released this entire decade. That's how bad the genre has gotten.
>>727118836This.
>>727120329>I simply HAVE to grind for this specific track and vehicle!No you don't just play the game. Also I never played crazy cars so idk how it is. I just hate games like forza that blow their load and give you a supra right in the start without a proper hobo phase
>>727120324Yes, and automakers were the ones pushing for them to force consumers to buy oversized shitboxes nobody actually likes, because they're more profitable.
>>727119920>>727120068Is this the modded version? The original Dreamcast release had no external camera, while the PS2 port did.
>>727119994>>727120051It really does capture the experience of driving towards the sun. Only thing Most Wanted lacked was a sunglasses toggle.
>>727120234>Honestly the arcade side feeds you into the sim side of the genre and once you're on the sim side you just boot up modded AC and go hotlapping and become a 40 year old dad.Literally me, although I like the freeroam maps in AC as well, and I still play a lot of Arcade games, hell I have a setup dedicated just to Outrun 2006 and regularly rip through the Episode 1 Racer campaign as it only takes like half an hour to do.I should check out some of these GT mods and throw them on the Outrun setup.
>>727120432Dirt 5 sucked, I returned it instantly. Wreckfest 1 and 2 btfos that slop.
>>727120468here's the game for you then.
>>727120234In a scale between FH5 arabian prince simulator and GT7 third worlder simulatorI think old MW has one of the best progressions in arcade games and GT4 has one of the best progressions in simulators
>>727117774steam/PS completion rates from achievements.
>>727120667What sort of progression MW even have? At the start of the game you can buy fiat punto which is legit like #3 fastest car in the game, the only cars faster are lotus elise and carrera GT.
>>727117289The appeal of racing game singleplayer modes was always that you were starting from a shitbox Toyota Corolla and working your way towards unlocking that sweet Mercedes AMGThese days players want the nice cars available immediately, ain't nobody feel like spending the first four hours struggling to win by trying to budget upgrades for their first-gen Miata. In addition developers want to sell microtransactions to players so they can spend real money to immediately buy a McLaren as soon as the tutorial race is over.
>>727120169Air Riders is a racing game the same way Smash is a fighting game.
>>727120567>PGR4I remembered this being incredible but recently went back and played it only to find it actually feels awful to play. The original Forza on OG Xbox however has aged like fine wine. Way fucking better than even GT4, just doesn't have as much content.
>>727120169Let me guess, you're going to add in Sanic Racing and Mario cart too?
>>727120782Well, if you play like a normal person and not try to minmax every game you play like a retard, it's a good progression.GT4 you can buy a subaru and mod it with 30k, do a single rally race and get the Escudo and steamroll 70% of the game with it, it means that it's a shit progression? No, just that you either played 500+ yours or looked a tutorial on youtube to figure that out. and only one of these are is the real answer.If you know what you're doing you can beat the shit out of the game and if you don't know it you can still have fun, that's how i measure a good progression.
>>727121505No.
>>727121620>Well, if you play like a normal person and not try to minmax every game you play like a retard, it's a good progression.How is buying the starter car minmaxing? Are you OK in the head anon?
I got a racing wheel for pc but I haven't acquired a proper setup for it yet. How much money should I expect to be spending on a racing chair (if that's even what you call it) if I want something good but not top of the line?
>>727120782>What sort of progression MW even have? At the start of the game you can buy fiat punto which is legit like #3 fastest car in the game, the only cars faster are lotus elise and carrera GT.Why are you pretending that upgrading the cars isn't part of the progression? What a fucking retard.
>>727121505Those don't have good single player modes so no
>>727122349Unironically just buy an actual car seat, it will cost less. But if you go for the full seat setup, it's actually the frame and everything else that will will really cost you unless you go full DIY.
>>727121916Sure, tell me how did you manage to figure it out that one of the starter cars that has no distinct features is one of the best in the game?Without looking up a minmaxxer online guide or playing a lot of this game before.
>>727119446I can't think of any games where the Viper is actually bad.>>727119974Not only is it good but it's the cover car for the game.>>727120048Only the first gen (which that image isn't) is a real death trap. Later Vipers are all way better cars objectively and evolved into a proper sports car that'll do laps around most Euro machines and shit all over its closest domestic rival the Corvette, but were still 6-speed only, never an auto because Chrysler were autistic in a based way and said "no," so most burgers would never buy one.
>>727122624Huh, I could probably figure out how to build something like that. Thanks anon.
>>727121139PGR and MSR always felt pretty shit to actually drive in
>>727123247>Huh, I could probably figure out how to build something like that. Thanks anon.There's lots of simple designs out there, just have a look around. The timber designs are all very straight forward, the most important thing is to get the proportions right and have some adjustability (easy with a regular car seat if you can get the frame rails with it). And keep in mind, unless you have a full motion rig, you literally don't need a racing seat, the entire point of them is to keep you in the seat whilst the car is being thrown around, for a sim setup at home, just get something comfy and cheap and put the extra money towards pedal/stick/wheel upgrades in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78jAn6fixk8
>>727123765This is all very helpful, I appreciate it.
>>727123157Dodge stock owner found.
>>727123848"Unistrut" is a good alternative to timber as well, you can buy all the brackets etc off the shelf, you'll just have to cut the struts to length and bolt it together like a big meccano set, and because of unistrut design it has a lot of adjustment built in.
nonsense
>>727123991are you a europoor or just a retard who ruined /o/ with pseudo consolewar bullshit?
>>727124569that looks pretty fun. can't wait for snow so can go sliding around and feel young again. just kidding. become too wary of dangers in my older age and get bored after 10 minutes anyway
>>727118836Mind numbing gameplay.
>>727124796Mindbroke
This is all I need and want for a single player experience.
Still the best (LA its a buggy mess)
>>727125041I prefer 2.
>>727117994>>727117942I’m playing it for the first time now. Is the FF race supposed to be a difficulty spike? I completed my b and a license, used the Pontiac prize car to finish the Sunday cup but get left in the dust for the FF. I’ve pivoted to buying and playing different one make races.Also, is there a “wrong” way to use the tuning system? I’m overwhelmed with where to start and haven’t anything to my cars yet besides turning off the assists.
Finished Midnight club LA Remix just recently, it's a neat little game wonder why nobody ever talks about it.
>>727118374This,I remember my first 2nd hand car from each iteration of Gran Turismo, getting the money for a muffler so it can go faster.I was annoyed in either GT 5 or 6 where it handed you a sports car from the start.
Please tell me it's real, a junkyard car game sounds great
>>727125653The cars and upgrades aren't made equal that's for sure. The upgrades that give the most bang for buck are usually racing flywheel, computer chip, stage 1 weight reduction and the spoiler in GT auto. Changing oil grants +5% horsepower, so always do that to any car.You should always disable ASM on every car and reduce TCS to 1. TCS is not a bad assist and during some races in extremely fast cars(800hp+) it may be beneficial to turn it up to save on tire wear.>Also, is there a “wrong” way to use the tuning system?Yes there are many ways to do it, the most common rookie mistake is adding power without balancing rest of the car. You can't go from 100hp to 300hp shitbox and expect it to handle correctly without racing suspension or better tyres.
Laziness. The same reason why there's so much rogueslop. It's much easier to let other players be the AI than to make a campagin and program opponents that feel appropriately difficult or to set the parameters and let the game generate endless shit. I remember when Dragon's Age 2 reused some (most) of the rooms and people mocked it ruthlessly now every other game is the same shit being recycled to infinity.
>>727118374Its one of the reason why I like TXR.
>>727125787>getting the money for a muffler so it can go faster.This is the experience I want.
>>727117289Around the same time 3D fighters not called tekken died. Genres go through changes over the years, it happens. They’ll come back one day. Remember when jrpgs mostly disappeared during the ps360 days with few exceptions? Then on ps4 they started coming back.
>>727125653https://youtu.be/vv3Y4q1tZX0?si=hQ9my_rKqOW3bMwRI really like this guy's guide to tuning and upgrading.
>>727117289not the developers, the suitsand probably because you keep buying anyway
>>727117289Any good race game beside of Forza?
>>727126407No that's the only one you ESL faggot
>>727119920This is unplayable with a controller, both DC and PS2 versions
>>727126625>>727121367>Watch those .webms>Get the urge to buy VR headset and proper wheelSTOP POSTING THOSE!
Nobody ever posts the racing vidya>Hey you! welcome to the big party!pasta anymore.
TXR is fun for a while but I felt like I had seen all the game really had to offer after beating Cinderella Past Midnight. I found out there are like three or four more "stages" after that and I really don't have any motivation to continue. I don't care about the story, so I don't have any real incentive to see it through and all you really get beyond that is the rest of the cars.
>>727118816I want real wheel support and the ability to play with my friends.I just with Motor Town had better support for racan.
https://x.com/Zeta_Goripong/status/1994666616026796192?s=20what now?
>>727126738good
>>727126747that's kind of like making fun of a retarded person. it's funny for a second but you quickly feel bad about it
>>727118374Very true. Finding the old shitbox you are actually driving in real life and tuning it up go really fast was always something I enjoyed in these games.
>>727127056Just fucking post it
>>727127150I don't have it
>>727126625>>727121367I'm not giving money to these snake oil salesman ever again. Every game they release is scope creeped to fuck.The success of AC made them lazy.
>>727119446Trying to drive the Viper through Laguna Seca was an absolute nightmare
>>727118374every single time i play gt2 i have to use this because my dad owned one back in the day
Wake me up when splitscreen is back on the menu.
>>727127598puke
>>727127904
>>727117289fuck I loved this game
What are the best games for just cruising around while listening to a radio?
I crave for a source reimplementation of NFSIII.>just play it with the modern patchI want more extensive modes like new maps, PS1 handling and menus, etc.
>>727128484Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row. Nothing else really captures that vibe
>>727128484Need for speed porsche 2000.
>>727128661this, pc version
>>727128650The cryengine port never ever.>PS1 handlingThat sort of exists.https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-iii-hot-pursuit-limits-unlocker-mod-menu/downloads/nfs-iii-hp-limits-unlocker-v210
>>727128806Interesting.
>>727119020>>727119446Both of you are wrong and shitting on vehicles that had actual track capabilities.Now, gaze in awe at the true joke of racing games.Which is really a shame, despite the design being 20+ years old it sill looks quite good. 2014+ models don't even handle that bad irl
>>727129212I could say something about the kinds of people I always see behind the wheel of these obnoxious land boats. I don't think I need to, though.
>>727129212that looks like a really fast brickstill remember trying to do the "Muscle cup" in GT using one of those.apparently the japs also consider the Ford GT and Saleen S7 "muscle cars" so fuck me
>>727124907Is that good or bad
>>727117289Well what was the last racing (or just car focused) game with decent story? Driver SF comes to mind from 2011.>>727119994Played this recently on a 360 and the bloom wasn't this exaggerated.
>>727117483RetardMain audience for racing games isn't tryhard online racers, it's just normal dudes who like cars and want to drive their favorite ones. They're not interesting in sweaty online modes, they just want to pretend they own a fancy car
>>727118836if you want to drive in a straight line for 8 hours
Genuinely awful
>>727130390Ruined racing games forever by popularizing open world slop. It wasn't the first one but it was the one big enough to change the genre
>>727128484Snowrunner if you like sort of physics puzzles here and there.
>>727130120Distance
What are some good not-Mario Kart racers for the Switch? I know HP2010 and Burnout Paradise are there, but I've played both and wasn't impressed with either.
>>727130857crash team racing nitrofueled is one of the finest kart racers. but everyone probably already played that one
>>727121367Why would you ever mod AC to drive Rally when Dirt Rally and Richard Burns Rally already exist?
wicked
>>727130620spintires/mudrunner is much better than snowrunner in the physics department
Anyone going to buy the GT7 paid DLC which comes out next week? I need to see more videos about the content it actually adds + price before I make my decision. https://youtu.be/LkAuyjsfmuM
>>727131310Never played those but from what I've read they also have less of the logistical planning.
>>727130479>Ruined racing games forever by popularizing open world slop.LMAO - NFSU2 did that years earlier.
>>727128484I wish AC had big enough free roam maps for this but I know how huge of an ask that is for a modder to make. Someone made a nice recreation of some English country roads and some of the villages it passes through and there is the Shuto Revival Project but I don't know the status of that
>>727120567I miss Bizarre and Evolution so fucking much
>>727131217The drag races were so strange. I don't know what they were trying to do with them or why they used a similar mechanic again for both UG2 and MW.
>>727131754
>>727117289>When and why did racing developers decide we should never get engaging single player modes ever again?The mid-late2000s, and because of online.Why bother making actual interesting content that takes time and thought when instead you can just tack on an online multiplayer system that has the added benefit of being able to nickel and dime users with microtransactions?
>>727120567I fucking love PGR4. I keep my 360 around just for this and Horizon 1
>>727131868
>>727131663But clearly nobody cared for it, as soon most wanted introduced fast travel to events nobody used the open world for anything. Granted that most wanted open world is mostly just arena for police chases, in carbon the open world serves no purpose at all.
>>727117583>>They sell gorillions, are immensely culturally relevantblur and split seconds were flops
>>727128484The Crew 2
>>727132535You mean The Crew 1 pre Wild Run update
>>727117789Cars have been tactless dogshit for a little over a decade now, nearly every car in the US is sold with an automatic and nearly every new car is a shitty crossover or SUV with all the "enthusiast" ones coming out being overpriced as all hell, fault of both a flawed economy and the dealership tyranny.All the affordable, fun cars stopped being produced when most zoomers were 6-8.>>7271257876 forces you to buy a Fit as your starter car, 5 didnt give you one, you had to buy it or finish a license to get one unless you are talking about the free post-launch updates that give some bouchers with free cars to everyone. Every game since 2 had economical, high power, early game stompers like the R32 or the older Evos and Imprezas on in-game day 1.
>>727131217>>727131763Did a playthrough of 1, 2, and MW in no particular order. Drag races in 1 were bullshit.https://files.catbox.moe/xfwyov.webm
>>727121367I dunno man I think he needs more teachometers and gear indicators I can only give this 6 simulation value out of 10
>>727131763they had arcade machines for this game that had a clutch
*mogs every racing game in your path*
Why aren't you playing GT2 A-Spec?
>>727128484>What are the best games for just cruising around while listening to a radio?It really depends on how realistic you want it to be and what sort of driving you want to do, my personal favourites though...American Truck Simulator with car/pickup/map mods, nothing else really comes close for comfy highway and winding mountain road driving with realistic traffic. Throw in mods like Pro Mods Canada, North to the Future Alaska and you've got road trips that last hours with lots of beautiful scenery. You can drive trucks, pickups, regular cars, even motorbikes with mods. Forza Horizon 4, fantastic map, hundreds of cars, but traffic simulation is pretty rudimentary and the roads aren't very realistic, but are certainly fun, obviously lots of racing etc if you want it. It can be a lot of fun just driving around and meeting other players and seeing their cars and having impromptu races. Assetto Corsa with free roam map mods like LA Canyons etc, comfy semi-open world cruising but in a proper sim, you can even set up traffic but it's no more advanced than Forza.Spintires/Mudrunner/Snowrunner if you want to enjoy the outdoors in heavy machinery. Spintires - Best physics (can be a slog on some maps) and best audio, basic mission structure where you just deliver logs, very limited vehicle customization, steam Workshop support for vehicles, bit of a pain to manually add custom maps but it can be done.Mudrunner -Less hardcore physics (but far more playable), solid audio but it's missing a lot of tire sounds, basic mission structure with just delivering logs, a bit of customization but not much, lots of mods, steam workshop support for vehicles and maps which makes it easy.Snowrunner -Least hardcore physics (better with physics mods), audio is eh, outstanding map and mission variety with literally hundreds of hours of content, great truck customization, great art direction, lots of vehicle and map mods, but you have to use mod.io to download them.
>>727134506>Why aren't you playing GT2 A-Spec?Gib download.
>>727134758Official website is down atm but it's on CDRomance
>>727134941What's the best emulator to play it with?
>>727135154Duckstation for hassle-free usage, mednafen/beetle-PSX for accuracy
>>727117289When Gran Turismo made a commercial for Gran Turismo Sport essentially shitting on the single-player focus of previous titles.
>>727118409what's next? nes titles?
GT1 was a good prototype but the Arcade Mode was better than the Simulation Mode primarily because they hadn't yet figured out a decent payout economy for the races.GT2 predicted what all racing games would inevitably turn into because you so much as blink and your garage is loaded up with cars that only exist to pad out the roster.GT3 has the most miserable opening of anything I've ever played, without abusing the trading trick the first ten hours is just grinding.GT4 should have never introduced B-Spec because it more or less foreshadowed what we have today with gacha autobattles and games that play themselves for you.GT5 was overall a decent game with a great online scene marred by a launch so disappointing it made the tech demo prologue look better in comparison.GT6 and GT Sport aren't even able to be considered full games, they're like what happens with musous where you get the same exact content repackaged and have to gaslight yourself into thinking this is okay. GT7 had the chance to actually break away from this retarded model but instead it became a third worlder simulator as someone above said. Just reskin GT5 again and make every car unaffordable. Fuck it, right?I'm honestly ashamed I own every Gran Turismo game because they all fucking piss me off.
>>727117289doesn't really make sense, now that the tech is there why race against AI when you can race against real people
>>727135358I just went to the last time they were culturally relevant. Not my fault your generation killed the genre with your insane preferences
>>727117289People would not feel incentivized to buy cosmetics in single player games to the same degree they feel incentivized to spend their entire wage buxs on $500 dollar pass to get a tier 3 legendary car skin when forced into a multiplayer environment.
>>727117752
>>727135520You realize there are zoomers competing in professional motorsports right? Making sweeping generalizations about generations just exposes you as a mental midget. Plenty of young people still cling onto Sim faggotry to this day, even though iRacing themselves don't care about it anymore and just want to price gouge paypigs.
>>727117882To be fair, much like all software, eventually your code becomes some multi generational torment nexus of millions of lines of C++ no one actually fully understands but is basically impossible to replace or compete with. That's why Unreal basically won in the end.
>>727117289blur 2 never ever
>Gran Turismo sells demos not once, but multiple times>GT fans eat it upI find it endlessly amusing how they all cling to the PS2 era whilst getting shat on mercilessly, you fucking deserve it at this point. Can't wait until they turn off the GT7 servers and the legions of fucktards come out to defend GT once again.
>>727135857they'll just patch it offline like with gt sport
>>727118604>that musicNostalgia sovl overload desu.
>>727135857This is the future the fanboys chose when they didn't buy Ridge Racer 7, rejected Drive Club, forgot about MotorStorm and all but completely ignored Sony's sincere attempt to reboot Wipeout.
>>727119098Its ugly, the worst looking supra
>>727124507Let me guess... You need more?
>>727119446>>727119806If you hate the Viper, you have terminally shit taste in cars and no one should ever listen to your opinions on them. That's just how it is.
Playing this bad boy right now.I expected a throwaway game but its very addictive I'm 30 wins in (save file shows it). Just very satisfying controls.>>727136001Love all of these games. Driveclub has the best stormy weather in any racing game.
>>727137392>no duke4/10 is the best I can do.
>>727126024>TCS to 1I always put it to zero after dealing with too many cars that cut power as soon as it slides a little, but tend to leave it at 1 for those 800hp monsters (the Group C cars especially) because otherwise they tend to spin their wheels constantly even on racing slicks and the player doesn't have an automatic 'hold accelerator to just the edge of traction loss 30 times a second' like the AI cars do without TCS on. Absolutely awful for low end FWD shitboxes though, just completely cuts throttle at half the corners on a track. Also don't forget nitrous, which is cheap and extremely cheatsy and lets lower end cars blow away faster ones on straights without affecting your A-spec points, not that they're particularly accurate anyway.Also don't forget limited slip tuning if applicable which can hugely change how a car handles in corners and is easy to screw up and get the 'shudder' effect (not a track autist so don't know what else to call it, when the car quickly jerks between neutral and understeering multiple times inna corner) when getting on the gas or just feathering it.
>>727135686>can't read>can't write>no understanding of statistics>obsessed with wealthy celebritiesNot sure if zoomer or jeet
>>727120051wrong game
>>727135380GT3 is my favorite even with the bullshit random car rewards where you can miss out on an F1 car (back when there were multiple instead of just the Formula GT) and get a Celica rally car or some shit, or the goddamn pink Vitz. I just really like the handling model and how colorful and neat the game is compared to GT4's sterility. Especially the classic GT orange HUD with the digital trip meter.
>>727131663Yeah it was done many times but it never took off until Paradise. Paradise created the modern formula of open world racing sloppa, they're still making Paradise clones
wreckfest 2 worth it yet?
>C5 'vette>Viper GTS>Cobra RSomehow Americans managed to deliver Sports car kino in the late 90sYou just can't hate on these burger chariots
>>727138063The late game grind was ridiculous
remember the forza motorsport reboot
>>727138632I only played an hour of it cause I can't be fucked to unplug my second monitor and launch it againhaven't heard many good things about it but I did like the real time repairing, cool little touch
>the only non suv/crossover ford makes is the mustang now>the only non suv/crossover chevy makes is the corvette now>the only non suv/crossover dodge makes is the charger nowWe are living in the dark age of American cars. What does this mean for racing vidya?
>>727138959Nevermind US cars, we're in the dark age of cars fullstop. I'm a Jagfag and just look at the absolute STATE they're in right now holy FUCK.
>can't get a solid 60fps at 1600x1200 in GT2 A-spec with a 5080Yeah i've definately set this thing up wrong.
>>727138959Everything went wrong in 2011 with the death of the Crown Vic.
>>727139129If you're using the 60fps cheat, you need to overclock the CPU in emulator settings. Also allow 8MB ram (dev console)
>>727117289Around the same time every game decided we should never get engaging singleplayer modes again and everything should be a transient skinnerbox where the act of bundling a bunch of faggots together and entertaining each other replaces the need for a carefully curated and balanced singleplayer in terms of providing entertainment value. but the problem is even more acute in racing because licenses don't even let those games stay up indefinitely, they have to constantly shift iterations because oops, toyota suddenly doesn't want to work with ea anymore, time to make a new game without toyota.
>>727139056Cars?
>>727127598I've never seen a game with physics this stupidly stiff.
>>727124907Yeah TXR is fun, but only for about 4 hours. Then it’s the same shit over and over and over.
>>727128484TDU. Or TDU2, slightly worse physics but slightly prettier and with two islands instead of one.
>>727139360>If you're using the 60fps cheat, you need to overclock the CPU in emulator settings. Also allow 8MB ram (dev console)Cheers, i'd set it to 8MB, but hadn't overclocked it, that sorted it.
>>727139660>even worse physics than TDU1how
>>727139452I somehow completely missed this when it came out and only noticed the rebrand when their Formula E livery changed. Shame because they were looking good by the end of last season.
>GT Sport (the best GT) still can't be emulated on PC
>>727134342Truly 0000001525.1920x1080.jpg is the king of racing games
>>727139363When you think about racing games in the same way you think of adventure games, their design flaws really come through.>Yeah, we have basically every type of sword ever made, but the most expensive one requires you to grind for hours and doesn’t have any dungeons >In the tutorial, you get to pick if you start with a basic sword, basic axe, or basic spear. Once you pick one and sit through this slideshow we made explaining the history of the basic weapons, you have to go out and finish dungeons to unlock the other two you didn’t pick before you can progress>We have a gem system to upgrade your swords and make them more powerful, the only way to get these gems is through gachas and nothing else
>>727140203>not recognizing a Trackmania gameShame on you.
>>727119290>MWIn that game you at least get it early and it's a blacklist rival which means you can get it for free before unlocking the faster cars. The Audis, CTS and non-SLR Mercedes are just unsalvageable.
>>727134342
Toca Race Driver 3
games for this feel.
>>727141586
>>727141572check out sega rally revo. that celica has a bitchin shadow the hedgehog livery in it
>>727141664>anime reaction imageI accept your concession.
>>727141586Motorhead has such a cool aesthetic. Like the whole game is Empire City.
>>727118816>europian
>>727138959Even the Mustang has been tainted by the Mach E, which is not a true Mustang and definitely not a Mach 1.
>>727117289I really wish someone would make a successor to Lagoon. I don't think I've ever seen another street racing game where you actually get punished for losing.I can't be the only faggot who wants a game where>you're incentivized to focus on 1 car (you have limited car spots/garage)>you start with a shitbox and have to upgrade it from 0 to a 1000>some social aspects to it, maybe even some silly little story>game world actually feels alive, if you lose a race you'll feel it (lose parts, have little money to afford whatever it is you need (gas, repairs, rent, your virtual gf, betting costs to enter races), lose entire cars)
>>727119020wrong x2>>727136446wrong>>727119136wut
>>727141884This needs to get a road trip mode like burger truck sim.
>>727142035entry costs*lose pink slips*
>>727142035>you're incentivized to focus on 1 car (you have limited car spots/garage)>you start with a shitbox and have to upgrade it from 0 to a 1000>some social aspects to it, maybe even some silly little storyNFS 2015 if you count the cinematics and "questlines" as social aspects>if you lose a race you'll feel it (lose parts, have little money to afford whatever it is you need (gas, repairs, rent, your virtual gf, betting costs to enter races), lose entire cars)try Turbo Outrun you sissy beta cuck. fucking shit you NTRoaches are everywhere
>>727142035You can just playTokyo Xtreme Racer 2025 for that. At worst, you lose money and you get the title LOSER if you're somehow bad in the game.
>>727117289>When and why did racing developers decide we should never get engaging single player modes ever again?During 7th gen when consoles decided they could charge people for basic bitch online functionality, thus pushing multiplayer anything was seen as a new revenue stream for the console manufacturers and publishers incentivised it.
>>727142712>your reward is getting someone else's whore
>>727142494>NTR out of nowhereWhen I mentioned virtual gf, I was actually thinking >"you don't have enough cash to buy her gifts/go on dates so she loses interest in you"
>>727142712GALAXY 500PLANETS ALIGNA STAR IS BORN
I heard project motor racing has good single player
>>727133714i loved this drag races man
>play gt4 on cousins ps2>have fun because he has a roided out Viper on it>emulate it 20 years later>can barely turn, have to keep grinding GP's to get cars to sellWas I missing something? I know endgame vs earlygame is a pretty big jump, but even then it felt like I could never turn tight enough.
>>727143373>someone saved my webmfeels good man
>>727143428Deactivate ASM (you have to do this on a per car basis) for better turningIf you want easy money, do Almafi Coast Reverse Easy in Rally events, you'll get a good prize car that you can sell for tons of money
>>727135380GT Sport was a GT7 demo
>>727142868aha and Im supposed to believe a woman hasnt found a new beta provider the moment she leaves your sorry assanyways I do remember those aspects of Outrun 2006 and DefJam were pretty popular at the time
Majority of racing games have shit AI. In many sims the opponents won't draft you, something that online will happen all the time. Many AI have problems overtaking slower cars.Yeah, there's a gap between real humans and best racing game AI. The "muh singleplayer guys" don't care about racing against retarded AI, it's just muh progression.
>>727142081The Supra, even fully upgraded, has the objective lowest top speed of any car in the first Underground.
>>727143373>>727143509TDU1 and 2 were so goodit makes me sad to think how Solar Crown turned out
>>727143713Play wreckfest - the a.i has rubberbanding on all but the expert setting just to slow it down for players. On expert is plays fair against you ands as it turns out most players struggle to get a 500 HP 2 ton burger car around corners on gravel.
>>727135510And yet online play is somehow much worse than most early 00s games. There is legitimately maybe 1 or 2 racing games in the whole genre that came out these past 10 years that are feature complete and not completely broken or unusable.
Is there a recent game where I start with a terrible car and work my way up? I don't want to be in a hypercar within 30 minutes
>>727134673Speaking of whichhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/270880/view/518605540709892412
>>727144702>wanting slop game design
>>727144673iracing is fine
>>727144702Most racing games that weren't released in the past ten or so years.
>>727144826Have you never played the older Gran Turismos? Enjoy your Forza Horizon where they just give you everything all at once and call you amigo in terrible spanglish>>727144952That's just depressing
>>727117289Because of the global focus on live service.
>>727145035>Enjoy your Forza Horizonnot him but most modern sims like automobilista 2 or lemans ultimate let you drive whatever you want
>>727143607I remember turning off some kind of steering "aid" but it didn't seem to make much of a difference. I think the main thing that kept fucking me was it never felt like i was going as fast as the game said i was, so i kept understeering on turns that didn't even feel that wide.
>>727118374>>727118034I really wanted everything. I really wanted to see what my corolla could do vs my neighbors 300Z, and the gap between my lesbian aunt's Subaru imprezza, and the WRX, and the actual full on rally editions were. and then the light years between those and a downforce car like an F1.
>>727118604Finally, something that has my grandma's 3 cylinder shitbox!
>>727138959>this fucking electric piece of shit is the new capriI hope the first faggot that bought a SUV rots in hell
>>727144010I didn't mean that the AI were slow but about how they drive, I want to see good race craft, AI drafting to overtake you, defend their position, them being able to overtake slow/lapped traffic easily, fighting with other AI for positions.You can get most of that easily - by playing online.
>>727131163bruh moment
>>727138959Honestly I wont even be suprised if north america outright bans anything that's not an SUV in the name of "safety" and "efficiency" or some shit in the next 15 years
>>727144702I'm playing dirt rally 2 career and the starting cars are shitty lancia or mini coopper S
>>727119581We stopped making cars ENTIRELY. Chrysler makes zero cars. Ford makes no cars. Only trucks, because trucks get a pass on stupid emission rules. It's unfavorable to bring over small EU and JP cars as well. We don't have the Fit/Jazz or Vitz anymore in the us as they effectively hurt the scores on CARB rules. >>727120218California's push on retarded emission rules was absolutely critical here, but you're right in that the US automakers wanted to favor trucks because they really coudn't compete with Japan or Europe on cars. >>727120378>>727120316Correct. Fixing the environment is NOT the overall objective here. Some of the biggest SUVS and trucks get additional exemptions from this shit as they count as "agricultural or industrial vehicles"
>>727138959>>727146250Well, the crazier people in california have an explicit objective to ban cars and car ownership entirely. Mass transit.
>>727146358>It's unfavorable to bring over small EU and JP cars as wellWait until you see the state of the trucking industry. American trucks are 15-20 years behind euro ones on basically every front.
>>727146428actually embezzles 40 billion to not build a train like a boss
>>727126625I hate your videos assholebukarenski or some shit on youtubego play nohesi
Anyone else have trouble getting their driving force gt to work on pc games?I have the logitech profiler but the wheel gets stuck sometimes and it doesn't want to center.pls help
>>727146458I saw it at the simulator level. Euro truck driver felt like I was driving a spaceship compared to 18 WHEELER AMERICAN COWBOYS.>>727146508that's the even better part. They loot every mass transit project. The people demanding other people not have cars all drive themselves, and pretend the problems in CA mass transit are more about racisim than, say being able to run a bus every hour on a route 80 percent of the time, or not having meth, stabbings or methed up stabbings, or not turning every mass transit stop into a homeless shelter. And they no longer release video of crimes at transit stations "for the objective of preventing racisim"
>>727132669No I don't.
>>727145941>good race craft>online
>>727147574I would just settle for shit that isn't just destruction derby. Not that destruction derby isn't fun as fuck.
>>727118374yeah wtf i just wanna drive civics and escalades n shit
>>727134673You left out road craft, which actually has the least hardcore physics, but you build roads and deliver logs.
Any modern racing games with a decent campaign mode? Don't care if it's sim, simcade or arcade, just want to progress and work my way up to faster cars.
>>727147646>two /o/ players join a public lobby
>>727146508>>727146428>mass transitthe plan is no transit at allwhy do we need to move meat, we have metaverse, it's just as good as being with these guys but so much more eco-friendly!and then when everyone is cozied up in their own little bubbles and unable to confirm anything, start gradually replacing real connections with ai-generated avatars so people can never wrongthink or revolt ever againsolve the overpopulation problem by not having any population by 2150, it's no longer necessaryprevent big disasters like the big fire in hong kong we had recently by kicking all the people out of cities and into the boonies by turning real estate into currency for the elite (that still gets to drive, fly and have things, but you are no longer aware of it because you are instead shown ai-generated news that bezos has donated the entirety of amazon to charity and went to the forest to live in soltitude)controlled, deliberate wind-down of society, as society is no longer needed
>>727147646I worked on a forza game and playtesters are exactly the same as your stereotypical online forza player.
>>727145941I feel like if Codemasters hadn't gotten EA'd, that's the type of thing they'd excel at. The first Grid has surprisingly good AI sometimes (I distinctly remember driving in third and watching first and second fight it out and thinking, wow, this is more immersive than most actual human players) that gets hamstrung by the obvious scripted crashes and spinouts; Autosport feels like they tried enhancing that and making the wrecks less scripted, but the cars instead feel like there's no energy and it's back to Gran Turismo style follow-the-leader. Never played the New Grid™s but I doubt the rival system really changed much.
>>727148018nonsense, one of those /o/ players would still be in the livery editor remaking their favorite car skin from Whiplash, and the other would have already quit and started shitposting about shadow cabals and discord
BITCHES LEAVE
>>727149473Easily the worst part about gran turismo.
>>727149473I honestly think the games were probably better when I didn't even know you got cars for getting all golds so I would just go and wing the license I needed for the next race instead of spending the first few hours of the game repeating them to get cars too early.
>>727149659>worst part>not the driving mission that makes you sit for three entire minutes doing nothing every time you retry it
online multiplayer ruined videogames
I got memed into buying Tokyo Xtreme Racer.It's not a bad game but I'm a little....meh on it. Japanese highway maps can only be fun for a couple of hours then it gets boring. No story. Music is repetitive. Cars take too long to unlock and change out.
>>727150085TXR is for racing game fans who hate racing games. It's one level of hipster below that shittastic PS1 game everyone oohed over when it got translated and then forgot.
>>727147312killing and raping all the Commiefornians would unironically make the world a better place.
>>727148049Then why bother? kys already.
>>727117393i noticed this too
>>727144702Play TXR. You start out with 3 shitboxes and the endgame cars, if you didn't start a newgame+ with engine swap, is either NSX, LFA, or R36.
>>727150347i'm in to watch it all burn, anonwhy kys, they'll do it anyway, might as well have fun with the drama
>>727118374Except I also remember that everybody though it sucked that we didn't get Ferraris and Lamborghinis. You're just a NFS Underground kid rewriting history
>>727150085I had my fun with it for a while but i will probably never finish it or replay it. Honestly i expected much more for that price-point, i can only hope they use all that money to develop a full-sized street racing game in the future.
My favorite car got destroyed by some dumb old foid who was too stuffing her face to notice I was stopped at a traffic light. I miss it. Can't afford another cool car in this economy, and lack of interest in cars IRL has made me uninterested in racing games too.
>>727148015TOKYO EXTREME RACER is back from the dead! last seen in the ps2 era.
>>727128484Mario Kart WorldOver 300 Nintendo songs with new renditions performed with live instruments
>>727149473>>727149659>>727149714Harsh as fuck. I never got all gold on any gran turismo. but the effort taught me more about how to feel a car's weight and balance on cornering and braking enough that it saved my life when we had unexpected black ice conditions. Take THAT you fucks who said video games never did anything good.
>>727150085You should be replacing the music with either the initial D or wangan midnight soundtracks, respectevely.
>was hated when it first came out>is now one of the more highly regarded NFS gamesWhat happened?
>>727117391i understand how you can get into a groove of playing racing sims but i think it was around when i was 16/17 playing forza3 on 360 in a 40 lap race that i thought hm i just wasted 30 mins driving on the same track.
>>727151076I wanted all of it. I STILL want all of it. Porches, RUF. Ferrari, Lambo. bugatti. Rolls fucking Royce. The goddam batmobile from 1965. The Beach Boys woody wagon. AAAAAL of it.
>>727153667Later editions plummeted in quality.
>>727119920Nice fucking spastic steering, retard.
>>727151309Genki has been making the same game for ages. If you've played one TXR, you've played them all. They also make a F&F Tokyo Drift game that was TXR with the serial numbers filed off.
>>727126738You can emulate wheel and pedals with a controller.
>>727153686You don't know what the hell you want.
What's the best non-arcade game that nails touge racing?
>>727154308Battle gear 3 is the least arcadey I think, but are you talking actual sim game? >>727153975Is ALL the fucking cars too hard of a concept to understand?
>>727154804confucious says a game that includes all the cars will pay proper attention to none of them
>>727154804Meaning not an arcade machine. I know most people would say pick an Initial D cabinet.
>>727118836The unlock system is stupid. I shouldn't have to drive a car I don't want just to unlock more vehicles from that manufacture
>>727155145There are mods for that.
>>727135380>you so much as blink and your garage is loaded up with cars that only exist to pad out the rosterYou complete a race, you get rewarded with a car. I don't see how that's unreasonable, how the fuck else do you reward the player? If you're gonna do car rewards that's basically the only logical way to do it.
>>727155095Initial D's physics are funky, especially the later versions.
>>727125653this >>727126024you can kinda get away with cranking the HP in GT2 but you absolutely can't in 4
>>727150207Ngl I don't mind the concept of it, it's just there's really not much content.... I don't know why the forums online jerk it off so much
>>727117289But single player in these was just grinding money vs AI that loses to you 98% of the time.
>>727137251I like living more than I like the viper.
>>727155095I haven't kept up with the newer shit. I suspect asseto corsa has a good one of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQfTrtEPFs8Comparison to the actual area. Inbound vs outbound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwQ6MbzHZcHaving ridden that actual road, the cicaidas in the battle gear video were even louder.
>>727117289I can’t think of a more unfun genre than simcadeDon’t trust your audience enough to go full autist with physics Not cool enough to make a fun wacky racer Just a lame as fuck middle ground for absolute losers who suck too much dick to play actual sims or learn mechanics for kart racers But lord alive the arrogance these “fans” have is astonishing You are not important because you play grab ass turismo and fagza Shut the fuck up and just die
>>727117289There's a bunch of reasons:1. It's not only racing games lacking in good singleplayer campaigns2. Companies make more money from multiplayer games because: a) it becomes more of a social experience b) it saves time and money by not having to cobble together AI/NPCs that is often trash to begin with c) retards will spend more money on microtransactions to show their cosmetics and other bullshit off to friends d) indie devs are often too incompetent or lack the skill/resources for good AI e) players nowadays have absurdly short attention spans and will just skip through cutscenes and dialogue anyway f) overall improved internet infrastructure has taken away what necessity existed for consoomers who relied on solo games for entertainment g) car games don't sell well because of the next reason3. Cars in general have been on a decline because: a) goyvernments force auto makers to create SOVLLESS generic blob shaped shitboxes in the name of efficiency and safety with laws that get stricter every year b) newer generations have mostly lost interest in cars and only see them as disposable appliances, they also mostly want something that's more reliable and cheap rather than cool and fast c) thanks to inflation and said safety mandates, new cars are also more expensive - the average age of a new car buyer is now at like 40 or some shit, meanwhile, car ownership in general is more expensive and some people would rather just take the bus or ride a bike - this in turn also influences cars to be designed for oldfags who may have already grown out of cars d) there is a lack of media exposure that has cars/car culture/racing as a focal point - import tuners exploded in popularity when The Fast and the Furious came out, it was probably the same among boomers when movies like American Graffiti, Two Lane Blacktop, Bullitt, Gone in 60 Seconds, etc. released (that and they had no video games to play, no internet to doomscroll through, and gas was cheaper)
>>727153667Mostly pc players aren't stuck at 1366x768 and 30fps any more so modern resolutions and framerates sand off some of the rough edges.
>>727117289never realized the Corvette and NSX looked so similar.
>>727133714god, born too slow is a great track
>>727153667It was hated by the people who thought Carbon was good.
>>727157161>people who thought Carbon was good.Much like fairies these people don't exist.
>>727157102
>tfw no Enthusia 2 with non-retarded upgrade system
>>727153667>(rightful) rejection of open world in racing in the later years, and newfound appreciation of purpose-made tracks>realisation that while yes, it is a bit more sim than most wanted, it's still very much an arcade, even compared to likes of forza horizon, and unlike it, it combines the best parts of both, being both accessible at low level and hectic and genuinely hard to control at high level>realisation that repair marker system was put in last moment as a crutch for the worst of playtesters, rejecting it meaning you can't do the main cheese strat of wallriding (and the game in general becoming way harder if you focus on clean racing)>people first finding out that wii version, paradoxically, doesn't run like dogshit, and then pc specs (and bugfixes) catching up to make it playable in full glory, and not as a slideshow on xbox>growing appreciation of pure, unfiltered soul that both birthed it and that it passed on into Speedhunters (which was created specifically for Pro Street)It's a case of "ask a jockey what he wants and he'll say a faster horse". They made something special, and got rejected because it wasn't a faster horse, it was the car.
>>727117483its nice that you fell for the multiplayer propaganda anon but some of us are smarter than that
>>727118251you need to be at least 13 years old to post here, begone child
>>727118374forza never got it either, especially not the horizon devs. they also dont really understand that people want to drive older cars
>>727118704yeah the horizon games are obnoxious with just shitting high class super cars at you from minute one, theres no real grind or friction.
>>727157102Is this like the automotive equivalent of faceblindness? See a fiero and see a ferrari? See a cappachino, and see a miata?
>>727158679If you are a soulless automotive executive then old classics don't properly represent the brand. Where are all the modern plastic disposable trash that they cut every corner on? Now that's new and hip. That's today.
>>727158679Forza also doesn't understand that people might want to form attachment to cars, particularly imperfect cars. In GT, you might go to the used dealership and see, say, an old Evo in white, spend a few minutes thinking of what you can do with it and is it worth your money, and then have it surprise you as it both lets you enter and then win events you never expected it to. It's now your Evo, you made the choice, you drove it to victory and it's proven itself. Contrast to Forza that will just come along, say "hey, here's a new exclusive 1/10 McLaren, for free, come back tomorrow for a Koenigsegg!", and you'll never drive either of them for more than 10 km.
>>727146250SUVs are neither safe nor efficient though.
Is there a game that's like a rally version of NFSU2?
if i cant buy a silvia (doesnt matter which one, they're all good) then its a shit sim. also can we talk about how dumb the obsession with "laser scanned tracks" is? who gives a fuck if every millimeter of track matches 1:1 with irl? i'd rather have 10 fantasy tracks like what GT used to have
>>727117289Too much focus on live service bullshit. Also playing Auto Modellista for the first time and enjoying it.
>>727157161Carbon was a gigantic step down from MW in almost every regard and most of its fans are Initial D nutjobs who only talk about the downhill races.
>>727144804wipeout but a sim (with anime girls) is my dream racer
>>727118816That would be Burnout 3: Takedown anoninventive fictional cars >>> real world cars
>>727151331irl cars turning to shit has done the opposite to me tbdesu, since cool cars arent being made anymore i might as well drive them in videogames
>>727159268yeah i never drove any of the free super cars they gave me in any of the horizons, just couldnt give a shit when i was having more fun in my silvia
>>727160448Should I bother to try the American version?
>>727161621If you want your game being drift heavy sure, but I think the PAL version has better feeling tune
>>727138774You don't need more than emulated FM4, not even PF+4 mod.
>>727118836I bought this but I can't seem to warm up to the handling. The steering feels kinda weird, idk how to describe it, thinking about refunding it. Any advice?I've played Forza Motorsport before and liked the handling there
>>727158679Have you even seen their roster? They have tons of classic cars. I'm all for shitting on Forza or western games, but come on.
>>727117289Seeing every new racing game, sims or not, still can't even code AI opponents properly, no wonder singleplayer is dead
>>727158679>people want to drive older carsDriving anything below B class feels fucking awful though, because the scale/sense of speed is completely fucked up in those games. At 100kmh you feel like you're barely moving.
>>727147646KEK
>>727159268This is why GT will forever be the genre GOAT. It's clearly made by people that love cars whereas Forza is made by Ameritards who love explosions and Big Mac.
>>727164879i read "explosions and Big Mac" in a very Clarkson tone of voice and it made me giggle
>>727164879>explosions and Big Mac.
It's impossible to play any recent GT game on PC and that sucks. The older GT games still play shockingly well but the car roster is so old and outdated. I need the new shit too.
>>727165358GT6 emulation is fine.
>>727147291brought my g29 out of storage the other day and the fucking thing broke itself sitting in a cardboard box for a couple yearslooked everywhere online and got no solutions and tons of people have the same exact problem where it can't calibrate correctly and just steers to the leftthey're fucking junk
>>727165603It stutters like mad shit but maybe it's an AMD issue.
>>727164964>TONIGHT ON TOP /V/EAR>I RACE A GT40 IN GT4>”Come on you understeering git!”>RICHARD BECOMES AMERICAN IN IRACING>”Are you sure that’s in Pounds and not Yen? Or Zimbabwe dollars?”>AND JAMES NAVIGATES SOME MENUS>”Áśśéťťó Ćóřśá Ćómpéťíźíóńé”>(Sceneof The Stig sitting on in front of a CRT connected to a SNES playing F-Zero)
>>727166037>In tonight's segment of Dev in a Reasonably Priced Chev, we have John Carmack of id Software fame! Now, John, we hear you have quite the history with horsepower, is that correct?>thanks for asking that, Jeremy. Now back when Doom really started making a profit, I had acquired a late model Testarossammm. Beautiful machine and I still believe so, but I knew from pretty much first glance that with a 5.37% increase in boost and adjusting the rear strut assembly by 3.1777- repeating, of course- pound-feet, it was theoretically possible to...>[cuts to the test track] And he's off!
Imagine killing your career by making a dumbass mistake like Clarkson did.
Top Gear is overrated boomer slop by low IQ bongs who can't let go of their past.
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>>727167839Vidya?
>>727167795in reality
i recently downloaded the choro q road trip games on an emulator, and boy its so much fun>>727168063looks like motorfest
>>727136001>sincere attempt to reboot WipeoutDo you mean Omega Collection, or was there something else? >Ridge Racer 7Probably didn't help that the last game was either Vita DLC nickel and diming, or whatever the fuck Unbounded was supposed to be.
>>727149473Now try golding GT 1 through 3, a lot harder than 4
>>727142035What platform is Lagoon for? All I get are hits for a SNES adventure game, or Racing Lagoon the PS1 game that isn't exactly what you're describing.
>>727117289Online play = more revenue stream
>>727117289>>727117393same thing happened with fighting games at about the same time.
>>727169752>Ubishit
>>727168069GT7 casts more shadows on the road than Forza Pajeetsport does.
>>727136001A sincere attempt that ended with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCthrIrxcQ4Easy to feel sour about that. Studio Liverpool being killed and dissolved before that was probably a mercy.
>>727135857What are you crying about shitter? When GT Sport servers went offline, they patched the game to work in offline mode. The reason people paid for GT demos is that a GT demo has more game value than most full priced racing games.
Does someone have that internet archive link of that one anon that uploaded a bunch of pc racing games? I forgot to bookmark it.
>>727117483>studies show
>>727132535>no real night time into the trash it goes
>>727119446why did this piece of shit become so popular
>>727178125Distinct style and Americans are world class at marketing shit nobody actually needs.
>>727120567looks really great
>>727173201 GT7 legitimately feels like it was made by people who actually give a shit about cars. Every race at dawn or dusk is pure soul. Meanwhile, Forza just cranks bloom and lens flare to 11 like it's still 2013. Shadows, lighting, even the HUD in GT7 has more weight-Pajeetsport is all flash, zero substance.
>>727117289I have so far enjoyed Crew 2, Crew Motorfest, and Forza Horizon 5
>>727178891grim. why would you admit that, even anonymously online. you could just not tell people that, no one would know
>>727147646I almost die of laughter, thanks anon
>>727147646steve still got it
>>727178983I don't care what you incels are crying about these days hahaha
>>727178125it's a massive fuckoff engine with just enough car around it to make that engine rollit's the closest thing we'll ever get to a podracer, and it came out first too
>>727179405"apparently not". okay, dont reply i guess, if you dont care.
>>727178125others already said it but1.2 million dollar car with a gigantic enginepeople who can afford it in america: 100 people30 grand car with a gigantic enginepeople who can afford it in america: a few hundred thousandguess which one gets talked about more. you wanna make an american icon, slap the biggest fucking motor into a car that people can make car payments on
>>727179681I care enough to reply to you, but not much more beyond that hahahaha!
To me, the race is the single-player mode. The story is each race. I'm driving the race car.
>>727120567Can you fucking learn to keep a good driving line? You are so fuck slow anon.
>>727180274chad drive enjoyer vs upset onions tryhard femboy
I can't believe it's been 21 years and Burnout 3 is still the best racing game ever made.
>>727147574Ok ok but better than most AI.>>727147291>doesn't want to centerWhen calibrating at the start and the logo is flashing? Check your encoder wheel it might be cracked or too far/close to the encoder.After playing for some time it changes the centre? the encoder wheel might be cracked.
>>727144010>wreckfestOne or 2?
>>727178641Americans lack automotive SOVL. They just want to drink coffee and talk about their dictator politicians instead.
How do I get GT6 to run well on RCPS3?
>>727183258buy a better cpu
>>727183282It's an 8 core Zen 4 CPU.
>>727149473OHHHH YEAH
>>727174901>they patched it!!So you still need to go online to be able to play your singleplayer gameAlso even after the patch a bunch of features cannot be accessed for no good reason. Keep defending your slop, shiteater
>>727167795>>727173201In all GT7 footage the cars never look like they're going over 20mph lol
>>727120632LolIs this really a game or just an animation?
>>727163432When people make generalizing statements like that you know they don't play either Forza or GT and they're just going off vague memories of playing Gran Turismo when they were a child.
>>727183912As far I remember it's part of a trailer for a game that will likely never come out.https://youtu.be/zeGZH7bd_BM
>>727181140I never play early access games so the first one for now.
I don't get it
>>727183258It's not officially at playable state but if you google it you'll find tutorials to make it work just fine. I managed to play test it without issues on a R5 3600/9060XT16GB following some youtube video tutorial.
>>727164505This why FH1 is still the best oneThe newer games have wide roads with shallow turns designed for supercars at max speed, and even if you miss a turn you can just continue driving offroad. In the first game you have tighter roads with actual barriers
>>727183597No you don't.
>>727183695Every Gran Turismo feels slow as shit until you get the 500hp+ monsters
>>727144702TXR
>>727178641GT7 exists purely to cause psychological damage to GT fans
>>727117289Around about the same time they decided racing games should have always online drm.
>>727119920That skybox is the most beautiful skybox I've seen in a videogame
>>727117583Any field that uses "consultants" is a fraudulent field.t. worked for deloitte and kpmg
>>727155460I think the issue comes more from the fact a huge chunk of those cars are Japanese, and they are Japanese tuner variants of cars you can already buy, and in some instances you can barely modify them. In a game where you can buy about a hundred of them at the dealerships.I get it, Japanese dev and all but one of the main things they advertised is a big increase in foreign and quirky cars and these for the most part are very few and sandwiched between all the R33 and 300ZX variants.
>>727118604Anon I thank you from the bottom of my heartFinally a game where i can drive my poverty spec alfa 155 project car
>>727185103It's going to be fucking hilarious seeing these massive roads in Japan.
>>727190065>here we have a small backroad in japan>the local youths enjoy driving down it
>>727145887i fucking love big, massive SUVs like the sq8, xc90 or escalade, but jesus christ, let the suvs be suvs and the sports cars sports cars. If i want a mustang, i want a fucking mustang, not a fucking mustang but as a more gay suv. This kinda shit is meant to appeal to everyone, which makes it dogshit. Keep everything seperate and you get good cars.>mfw i walk outside my front door everyday and theres this fucking faggoty ass jeep renegade parked in front of me
>>727166893now make it a first person cockpit view where i can see big anime tits when i look down and maybe some race queens at the start and itd be near perfect. goon it up
>>727163432>>727183947>TONS OF CLASSIC CARSyeah, american cars. everyone else gets 1 or two representatives per model line. nevermind the fact that most of them are just models pulled straight from forza 1-4 despite it being 2025
>>727117942It has emulated well for 15 years.
>>727167795>>727168069>>727173201i mostly stick to older sims but gt7 looks more pleasing to my eye tbdesu. FM looks really washed out like they didnt understand what white balance is.
>>727119446only the gt2 viper built by the french was good
>>727192263>gt and jeetza>sims
Is there a point in emulating GT3 when 4 exists?
>>727192000>yeah, american carsAs in, the only nation to have made cars worthy of being called classics.
>>727192435yeah, real sims. not the cringe shit like iracing where the people clearly dont give a shit about cars and only care about muh lap times
>>727192459GT3 is more arcade which you might prefer
>>727192625neither of the games mentioned so far do any physics simulation based on reality and measurements
>>727192625it always makes me chuckle when scrubs seethe at ircacing being the most realistic sim in existence because they are poor and can't afford the entry cost.
>>727192459I never liked the handling in GT4. Bigger game, but for me it was a worse experience.
>>727192537the js12 is one of the most beautiful cars ever made, meanwhile the only ones ever included in forza were the original '66 model or the ones that came immediately after
>>727192764>>727192771iracing shills seethe at the idea of people actually enjoying cars>b-but gatekeeping poorsa years sub is like 200 dollars, i afforded it fine in minimum wage, the games just boring as shit if you actually like cars instead of boring trackshit
>>727192823yeah yeah we know mr weeaboo, glorious nippon car lapped 1000 times at suzuka.
There are many great racing games but the genre peaked in 1998.
>>727193017>mfw some chink shit tries to steal the limelight from the glorious Boss 429 Mustang, found on road dead over 1000 times
>>727121367...I can't tell if this is vidya or real life, why can we see the feet on the pedals?
>>727118374Zoomers now just want endless Ferraris and Lamborghinis, look at forza.
>>727193507Get your eyes checked anon. It is blatantly game capture with an overlay of a camera pointed at the drivers feet.
>>727153670You were right. Playing forza is a waste of time.
>>727193507It's green screened with a fancy cockpit, the wheel, hands and small panel on the right side are real
[Heh... another rookie lookin' for a title shot. Tryin' to take what's mine. He might have some juice, but I'm gonna drop some knowledge on this fool.] ... Careful, I got a reputation!
>>727190637>Your mountain road, sir.
>>727194261>beat game>get told to kill yourselfwow, just like my /v/ - Video Games!
>>727192823>s12 is one of the most beautiful cars ever madeThere's a dozen of cars with the same style.>also japshit>beautifullmao
>Fartza>Gay Autismo>Tokyo Extreme FaggotKEKHere's are the best racing games.
How's Ridge Racer V?
>>727196435you didn't have to post rfactor 6 times
>>727117289>hello I'm retarded what is GT7
>>727196275The Sierra is pure sexo
>>727196436Not bad, but 4 and 7 are better
>>727196924Thanks
>>7271965408 times and I had to.
>>727173201>performanceepic
Good thread boys
