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The original SMASH KILLER
https://youtu.be/cItvP2tbH3s
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What a shit roster
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>>727227706
Is a way better game than /v/ is willing to admit.
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I still deel like an idiot for deluding myself into thinking Cloud and Crash would be DLC.
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>>727227869
Once we got Raiden and not Snake I knew we weren't getting most iconic PS mascots
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>>727227706
I want a sequel that has the Smash Bros knock out system with the 1-2-3 power attacks.
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>>727227784
As far as first parties was concerned, this was as good as it could get
The problem with All-Stars' roster wasn't who got in (aside from Donte), it was who DIDN'T get in
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>>727227706
Should have been developed by japanstudio. At the very least it would have had the potential to live on as a cult classic
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>>727227784
Kat is this old ?
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>>727227706
>Heihachi flings Donte off screen then laughs at him, kind of acknowledging that no one liked him
The opening is honestly pretty good
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>>727228517
Yup, Gravity Rush was 2012, she was the last dlc for this game in 2013.
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>>727227784
It was ok
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>>727229356
>Evil Cole
It was originally be one Cole whose moveset changes depending on player actions but Sucker Punch argued for two Coles
It's a case where "It's okay when Smash Bros does it"
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>no Crash or Spyro because Activision were greedy fucks
I'm still mad
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>>727227784
Kino.
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>>727227784
>only kratos and heihachi exist today
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>>727229853
..oh God that's depressing
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>>727229853
>>727229962
Ratchet
Also nobody likes Donte anyways so....
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>peoples only real critique at the time was that it was a smash clone
That was bad because...?
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>>727229853
Heihachi would be better off not existing with how T8 ended up, which he wasn't even in at first.
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>>727227784
>>727228012
The problem is that everything third party related was publicity first (Donte instead of Dante, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Heihachi, Bioshock Infinite stage, Dead Space 3 Isaac, Activision would only allow Crash and Spyro if the devs gave them a lot of money and royalties for every copy sold, only reboot Lara but she had to debut on her game first).
>>727229493
>It's a case where "It's okay when Smash Bros does it"
The problem lies more in that PSASBR's roster is very anemic even with DLC included, back in Melee where the problem of Clones was apparent (Mario and Doctor Mario being more blatant than Cole and Evil Cole) there were still a lot of fan favorites that were obvious picks for a Nintendo fighter.
>>727229853
Ratchet and Clank at least had a mainline entry on the PS5 and Toro is still used for promotions in Japan. And if you want technicalities the Twisted Metal TV show recently got renewed for a third season.
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>>727227706
>original smash killer does not have the original Zelda killer
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>>727230136
He's trying to say Pit and Dark Pit are the same thing as Cole alignment shift.
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>original
There were at least 3 other smash clones that existed before this, zoomie.
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>>727230086
Smash clone is fine
Problems with the game are
>Zero single player content
>Zero online scene despite trying to cater to them (talking about at launch obviously)
>Ugly Artstyle
The only thing this game was praised for was being able to turn off stage hazards cause people asked for that shit in Smash, and it took till Ultimate to get that
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>>727230180
Are [game]-killers still a thing? I don't hear about people hyping up Fortnite killers or Minecraft killers.
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>>727227706
this shit looks disgusting, it makes my skin crawl
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>>727230249
Notice how the OP said Smash KILLER not Smash CLONE retard zoomer
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>can only ko opponents with Super attacks
>super attacks range from "Dodge this and survive" to "yeah no it's an instant win button GG"
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>>727230275
Smash hadn't had any REAL single player content since Brawl and people suck it off to no tomorrow to this very day. Online scene died off because the connections sucked ass and you would get disconnected often.
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>>727230280
>Are [game]-killers still a thing?
They aren't because even braindead publishers have realized that sort of marketing is just setting your game up to be a failure and laughingstock.
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>>727230242
Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen anyone defend Dark Pit's inclusion since even for a clone he is probably the laziest character in the series since the only real changes are to 3 moves (Neutral and side special and Final Smash) and aesthetic stuff that could have been relegated to an alternate skin.
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>>727230389
Alright now cmon bro I hate the new single player stuff in modern Smash but that's straight up a lie

Smash 4, 2 years after this, had
>Classic Mode
>Smash Run
>Smash Tour
>Master/Crazy Orders
>Events Mode
>Multi Man
>Home Run Contest
>Target Blast
>All Star Mode
Tons of shit you can do alone offline. Was it all good? Fuck no, but it's still content. Hell I hate World of Light but it's still a 30 hour Adventure mode for single players

Battle Royale's single player content had
>Arcade Mode
>That's fucking it.
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>>727230626
Battle Royale's arcade mode was memorable compared to Smash 4.
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>>727230389
>Online scene died off
No, it's still very active online.
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>>727230724
Half and half agree
Wiiu classic mode was dogshit, 3DS classic mode was arguably the best it's ever been
But Battle Royale had the fun rivals mechanic and cutscenes instead of a single picture so they both had their strengths.
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>>727230621
I was kind of disappointed that they went clone with him instead of using the chance to make one of the two have Pit's Brawl moveset and the other the KIU inspired one, but then again people were rectum ravaged Dark Pit was in the game at all even as a barely changed palette swap.
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I miss Kat
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>>727230874
Master Core was better than Polygon man, but only because the latter as a boss is underwhelming. If Arcade Mode weren't random fights from start to rival battle and instead was a path that relates to the character (Something like Kratos going against Nariko in her Athena costume, then he fights Deimos, then he fights evil Cole as a stand in for Zeus since I am assuming pre-DLC, then rival battle and finally, Polygon Man) it could easily beat Smash 4's classic mode and be slightly better than Ultimate's.
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>>727231214
Wait when you say Polygon Man, you mean the failed attempt at a mascot from the launch era of the PSX?
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>>727230626
>2 years after this
And by a team with way more experience and budget. As well as 3 previous installments to pull offline modes from.
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>>727231323
Yes, he is the final boss of Arcade Mode for every character.
After the character defeats him, he explodes and the character absorbs his AS (All-Star) power, then in the epilogue cutscene the character has a glow implying that character has a newfound power.
Could you imagine how hard God of War 3 would be if Zeus' Arcade mode was canon to that game?
>>727231381
And more time and a proper budget, I think that if Sony actually cared about PS All-Stars they would have given SuperBot more time and a proper budget to get at least more of the requested characters.
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>>727231214
Polygon Man was so stupid.
>Throws out dumb ass quotes and laughing all match
>You don't even get to fight him
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>>727231659
>>727231745
This feels like if a Smash game ended with Nester as a final boss.
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>>727231381
Ah okay, you want to move the goalpost, no problem anon! Smash 4 "had a bigger budget and previous entries to build off of" huh? No problem!

Let's see
Smash 64, a literal game run on a shoestring budget
>Classic Mode
>Break the Targets
>Board the Platform
>Fun other shit like data records and model viewing with histories on them
>Even had basic shit like sound test

And let's just compare that to a game with a much bigger budget, Battle Royale
>classic mode
>.....
>.....
>......
>.....you could change the music slider up and down and pretend it was a sound test

Now I'm gonna go take a shower but please, while I'm gone come back with another stupid ass post to make fun of you some more.
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>>727231970
>you want to move the goalpost
I'm not the guy you were originally replying to, nor was I trying to start an argument.
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>>727232346
>Guy in his 40s
>Looks younger than when he was a teenager and even if ignoring art style changes from Parts 3 to 6 in part 6's flashbacks he only looks different due to wearing different clothes
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>>727232346
Uh huh suuuuuure
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>>727227706
Fun game desu



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