DDR5 OR DDR4, it doesn't matter.It will be the last stick you will ever own.
It's already too late
>>727485840HE'S FAST!!!
>>727485591I'm wondering how much my old 2x 8gb sticks of DDR4 go for... surely someone is down bad.
>>727485929maybe $100
>>727485591
so can I sell my 2021 gigabyte pc (spent 2.3k) for 10,000USD now?
>>727485591>bought a couple weeks ago when prices first doubled >they're now over 2x what I bought at
I have 16G of DDR3 that I'm not using if anyone is interested
>>727485591Why?
>>727485591I'm already rushing to inflate another artificial bubble, while there are a gazillion chips stamped out in the 2010s sitting in warehouses.
>>727485591Ok but why?It's not like games are getting better
>>727485591you're supposed to buy the dip, not when it's high
>>727485591>BUY HIGHDon't listen to this retard.If you were already waitfagging, then you might as well keep wait fagging.Do not fucking spend hundreds of dollars on ram unless it is for you livelihood.
>>727489523>just keep waiting bro>AI datacenters will fix the market themselves!See >>727486265
>>727485591No thanks. I don't care about (((ai))) or (((new games))) so I will never need to ((upgrade))). If anything I am going to get a nice Win 95 machine and just play DOS games.
stop panicking, this is like the crypto bubble that shot up the prices of gpuseventually you wait and it goes back down
>>727489618yeah, just like GPUs went down and are dirt cheap now! ... oh wait
>mfw I bought two 4tb SSDs back when they were like $150
Convince me that AI isn't an elaborate prank to trick us into thinking these prices aren't inflation
>>727489818>DRAMlessIt's worthless
>>727490374Retarded goy.
>>727489618AI doesn't have a light at the end of the tunnel like the ETH merge did with GPUs. It's only going to get worse, especially as the likes of Nvidia will keep promising to make AI slop faster and better for the corporations to keep spending money on, as well as the corporations like OpenAI, Broadcom, etc. still burning money and buying up hardware at astronomical rates to make their own in-house solutions.
>>727490417>buys cheap garbage>has the gal to call me the stupid goyFucking retard
>>727490425ai stocks and the stock market in general are fucked and crypto-like at this pointfor everyone praying it's a bubble they don't understand how tesla shares are so high despite not having any market share or revenue
>pricing is fucked>GUYS BUY NOW NOW NOWDid I wake up in retardville?
>>727489893the trick isn't about tricking you ultimately. the trick is seeing if they can replace you while they retreat to their bunkers and medical superyacht fleets>>727490947well it is /v/
>>727490472>n-no you!Great comeback, retard.
>>727490947I mean have you seen how many pajeets post here?
>>727485591>RAM is expensive>can't sell it because everyone knows the memory manipulation is fake>Team just wait, always right againThe chinks and gooks will get busted once again for market manipulation, just like they have always done every couple of years. The memory shortage is fake.
>>727490947see >>727486265
>>727491032>Doesn't even understand a basic english sentenceGood morning saar!
>>727485591i cannot be manipulated into spending money, sorryhold those bags, my hands are diamond
>>727491285mfs say this until i start cooking hotdogs with toasted buttered buns under their window at 3AM
>>727485591No, fuck them. If my current ram sticks are gonna be the last ram sticks I own, then so be it.
>>727491409uhhhhh what?
>>727485591>32 weren't enough for my minecraft setupFuck should've bought 64 gigs
>>727491409i stopped eating after midnight though
>>727491503I think he is calling you a homosexual
>>727491858man you must be a genius to understand what he posted
>>727491181Yes, you are a literal clown if you buy at these prices.
>>727489618Yup i sure remember those gpu prices dropping
>>727485591No.
>>727485591Spread the message
>>72748559132gb is enough, and if it isn't I'll just have to play rise of nations until I die
>>727486891>computer I built at the beginning of the year is only appreciating in value
I have 32gb of 6000mhz memory, so I'm not doing to bad
Reminder that the 360 had 512mb of ram. The only reason any modern game needs more than 4gb is to keep you consooming.
>>727485591Nah. If they really wanted me buy they wouldn't be pulling this stunt. May a swift bankruptcy an foreclosure come for them when all this shit is over.
>>727485591I have the best DDR4 kit in existence Cl14 4000mhz I think Im fine
>>727501287But only 32gb
Futurechad here, motherboards are next. Go stock on them, they need to insert all of the excess RAM sticks somewhere>b-b-bbbut data centers have their own dedicated corporate motherboards...Pajeet homes will also work as low cost data centers and they will be using literal desktop PCs to run the AI slop
I'm still on DDR4, which hasn't been that affected yetStill, upgrading to 128gb might be too expensive
>>727485591>all these retards panicing while sitting on an existing gaming library of literally tens of thousands of gamesIf we'd not get a single game for the rest of our lives we'd still have more 9/10 on avarage games to play than one person could ever realistically finish within our liftime.Reject consuum, embrace the backlog.
>>727485591Kill yourself
>>727501942reported for antisemitism ,communism, fifth columnism and trying to promote anti-free market practises upon the innocent and unsuspecting population of this fine board.This man is not your friend fellow anons.
buy highdo nothing low
I have 32 gb of DDR4.I don't play AAA games and I don't do anything AI.Do I really need more than that?
>>727490947its not fucked, its still cheap, by early next year it will go 3x or morethe mistake people do is that they compare to what was before ... but things always used to be cheaper, and will get more expensive, that goes for all goodsbuying ram will just joint the gpu as the most epensive component for your pc and having to spend 2000$ to get more than 32 gb will be the norm
>>727485591Its a supply shortage dingus. You'd be a fool to buy unless you absolutely have to.
I felt bad for upgrading my r5 5600 two months ago, but with all the retarded price hikes it feels much better now.
This shit isn't going to last more than a year because it is unsustainable. RAM at current prices means nobody will be able to afford computers or phones anymore.If this issue won't be getting fixed that means the entire global market of consumer electronics collapses, all because muh RAM. Not gonna happen.A solution will be found eventually.
I upgraded my pc a year ago, 32gb and all, I will be fine for another decade
>>727502731Ok, but how is that a problem for the manufacturers?
>>727502551>buying ram will just joint the gpu as the most epensive component for your pc and having to spend 2000$ to get more than 32 gb will be the normNo it won't, there's a reason RAM manufacturers are not increasing supply, it's because they see the bubble bursting in the time frame it would take for them to increase production and are right now cashing in as much fool's money as possible before they have to reduce prices.
>>727485591I'm starting to become suspicious that these threads are made by marketers trying to sell PC parts.
>>727502643it will take at least 2 years for market to stabilize
>>727502814Why would they deny an opportunity for more money?
>>727502814Nobody in the manufacturing plant would be able to afford a new PC or phone except maybe the CEO.So you're basically saying that everyone in the industry will just quietly allow themselves to stop using phones and go back to the 1990s?
>>727502770A lot of people in this thread are saying 32gb for some reason. I think it's ridiculous. You don't need more than 16gb for anything.
>>727502731>Anon thinks friendly capitalistic entities work for common good out of the kindness of their heartsWhy the fuck would a RAM manufacturer give a shit about whether you can afford a phone or not if they can make 10x profit AND have guaranteed sales for multiple years in advance by catering to another market? Only a suicidal fool would try serving average joe at that point.
>>727502980Because nobody will be there to use AI if nobody has phones or computers anymore, dumbass.
>>727502907They are selling all they can produce, this is why they raised the price.RAM manufacturers are also aware AI rush is temporary so they are in fact maximizing profit right now.
>>727502643>supply shortageFor what?For the big database center that Texas, OpenAI, and nVidia are building?The one that Texas doesn't have the electricity for, OpenAI doesn't have the money for, and nVidia doesn't have the GPUs for?Its literally speculation.
>>727503045They don't want you here anymore.
>>727503173then who are these AI applications and datacenters build for? lol you are not making any sense.
>>727502928It helps a lot if you do image or video editing. And if some sticks die on you, you still have the others.
>>727502908You assume too much.This will simply mean people won't be changing their phones every 2 years.If RAM price doubles it doesn't meant he phone price will double.
>>727503087They can always produce more.Bigger market = higher revenue = stock go up
>>727502770I splurged on 4x 16GB sticks couple years ago when I got them on sale for 250€ and 32GB without sale was 210€. I'm now considering selling 2x16GB because I'll be getting 600€+ back by selling them to US retards[/spoiler] EU has much stricter price controls to prevent price gouging, so the prices are like 300€ instead of 600€ so far (still going up ofc) but for some reason Americans still insist on getting buttfucked by not ordering their RAM from EU companies, proven by comments in this thread [/spoiler]
>>727503267>If RAM price doublesanons prices have gone up by 10x times>it doesn't meant he phone price will double.it literally does mean that
>>727502869>it will take at least 2 years for market to stabilizeI agree. Its a longer term supply shortage because everyone is sperging out over AI and its gobbling up all the resources; but its still a supply shortage. I'd predict that its probably going to get worse then a little better over the next 6 months; but its going to take as you said about two years for supply to catch up with demand.>>727503163Yep; but the whole stock market is being driven by this AI nonsense. Its the only thing anyone has any faith in right now so they're all speculating on it like mad. Nvidia is ridiculously over valued.The concept that you could have an army of robot workers driven by AI is the carrot they're all chasing right now. As you said the groundwork for it isn't there; but the market apparently feels that building that groundwork is an appealing investment.
>>727503279They can produce more if they make more production lines, this takes time and money.This will also lower the price of RAM and that's not what they want because once the gold rush stops the prices will drop too much.It's always about short therm profit with publicly traded companies, next financial quarter is all that matters.
>mfw I didn't miss the last train away from this pc jewpocalypse
>>727503325You are trolling at this point.
>>727503045Get real anon. People still have their current phones and PCs, its not like they are going to despawn. Commercial users will buy RAM even at 10x prices because PC purchases are a marginal fraction of their operating expenditure. Sure you might not afford a phone/pc anymore, but think about it: can you afford NOT TO? You'll eat the 1000$ price increase and take a loan for it if you need to (like you do for cars already) because if your work requires it the other option is even worse (being unemployed).
>>727485591My steam deck already has 32GB of RAM why do I need more?
>>727503551>its not like they are going to despawn.Unless there's a global EMP strike...
That pedophile in the White House is making everything suck with his retarded business “””deals””” and sucking up to techbro satan
>>727503396>They can produce more if they make more production lines, this takes time and money.>be Cisco in 1990s>Internet blowing up, everyone wants a connection, everyonewants a website for everything>router demand through the roof, supply can't keep up, prices record high and it still sells>decide to expand factory capacity to meet demand, spend all your free cash on it>DotCom bubble happens>router demand stalls and drops hard>knock off entry level trash routers take share of the shrinking market for little R&D cost>Cisco goes from the largest company on the planet to just some router companyInvesting into a bubble is in fact not a good strategy.Take it from gold mining companies: their business is selling gold. They know not to hold it.
I wonder if I should flip used computers for their rams and gpus.someone has probably already done that.
>>727503215>then who are these AI applications and datacenters build for?For their owners, who are hoping to replace you.
Supply will eventually meet demand. Capitalism just works. It's pretty obvious there's room for more players on the market and investment will follow.
>>727503551>People still have their current phones and PCsfor now. But the more the situation remains unresolved the more people who require to upgrade won't be able to>but think about it: can you afford NOT TO?Yes??? I am literally not able to afford RAM at these prices. I think you are underestimating how poor the bottom 90% of this planet is. Only the top 10% would be able to afford consumer electronics anymore that require ram.
If you think that there's a solace for you next year then think again. Prices will never go down and this shit will extend to other PC components because they want to screw non-AI kike corpo consumer. Enjoy waiting till 2030.
>>727503632>who are hoping to replace you.that isn't going to happen for a good while until AI can become autonomous, which at the moment it very much isn't. The techbros won't be able to contain the unrest in the next couple of years if they decide to replace this early.
>>727502549No, unless you have five programs and a browser with 2k tabs open while gaming
Only one man can save us.
>>72750292816GB hasn't been enough since almost 2020 anon.
That kid who invested into dedicated wam for his minorcraft server is a millionare now. How does that make you feel?
My PC is good enough.I'm waiting for AM6, total AIslop liquidation, and the annihilation of the United States.
>>727505042Bloodlines 2 is a new game, and on ultra settings, high resolution, open browser on second monitor, my RAM rarely goes over 15GB (out of 32).
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>>727486891I bought my pc a couple weeks ago too, literal hours before the panic set in, there was an actual sale on the ram as if they expected it to be hard to shift at new inflated prices. By the time it got delivered it was almost double the price
>>727485591RAM isn't going to matter when the AI bubble pops and we'll be fighting over scraps of food in the remains of grocery stores
>>727502928Browsing the internet on windows 11 puts you at 16gb of ram usage
>>727485591You can't fool me that easy
>>727495504>>computer I built at the beginning of the year is only appreciating in valuethis shit must be unprecedentedeven consoles started going up in price too, the fuck
>>727485591Not really, once the bubble bursts in 1-3 years time we'll be getting affordable ram again
I used to hate AI til I discovered I could generate 4k cute and funny nude pics in under 60 seconds on my ancient 3000 series card. There’s nothing wrong with AI, you just feel powerless about the inevitable jewish billionaires takeover of the world that you lash out at some harmless binary algorithm
Im now a little nervous my shit could break ngl. Bought a new pc last summer where I picked the parts and had it put together and I suspect they mightve overclocked some parts which seems like kind of a waste aswell bc I pretty much only browse a little, watch movies and play older games. Idk anything about tweaking and OCing shit and basically just let it be if it works. Should I be concerned about potentially reduced life expectancy of RAM and GPU if they are overclocked?
>>727508387 If you're just browsing and playing retro or older games, then yeah, having OC on by default is kind of pointless and might shave some life off the components needlessly. That said, modern GPUs and RAM are built to handle a bit of OCing out of the box - often with manufacturer headroom in mind - so unless they're running hot 24/7, you’re probably fine.Still, if you’re worried, hop into BIOS and check if XMP is on (for RAM) or use software like MSI Afterburner to see if the GPU is pumping higher than stock clocks. If temps are manageable (like GPU under 80°C under load and RAM not doing anything too nuts), you’re likely chill. But yeah, if you just want a chill, long-lasting setup, might be worth dialing things back to stock. Peace of mind goes a long way when RAM costs as much as rent.
>>727495504I gotta say I'm quite fond of these happening memes
i don't need more than 16gb of ddr4r-right? ;(
There are literally new RAM factories being staged in the US right now. Just wait a year.
>>727485591This reminds me of that time when retards at Costco thought we were running out of toilet paper
