Waitfags BTFO!
idk what people were expecting. prices to go down? there to be more supply? the dollar to get stronger?
>>727493476>Waitfagsyou mean console fags
RAM is still cheap in my cunt? Buy?
>bought 64GB 3 months on a whim just to fill the empty ram slots on my mobo
>>727493785if you were going to upgrade to dd5/AM5 within the next 3 years and its still cheap in your area i would just do it. but it's not a massive jump and honestly if you're just playing games you don't need to play any piece of shit garbage where you would notice the difference between 64gb DD5 and 32gb DDR4
>>727493732why would they go lower rank?
>>727494093i treated myself to 128GB ($330) because my stonks were doin well
I bought my computer in August 2024, and upgraded my GPU when the 9070 came out.Did I dodge a bullet?
>>727493476Picrelated: People with fully finished builds that have no need to upgrade.
i havent changed anything on my pc since 2014
>>727494329Gratz you did.
>>727493476>bought CL46 DDR5 trying to get anything at allHOW FUCKED AM I
>>727494329Yeah, if you're not bottlenecked you should be fine for years unless you're trying to do 4k + ultra + high FPS memes. Personally I think anyone who can't make an amazing looking game run on a 3080 + simpatico CPU is just a bed dev and doesn't deserve to have their game played.
>upgraded at the start of 2025
UPGRADEBROS AND PCGODS WHO ALREADY BUILT THEIR RIG, RISE THE FUCK UPWE WILL RIDE THROUGH THE APOCALYPSE TOGETHER
>>727494435>CL46 DDR5OOOFFF Intel rig? picrelated: my rig CL26 DDR5
We both know you have a massive backlog of older games. Much better than giving the jews your money
>>727494465Running old but not retro games at 4k high frame rates still needs a beefy computer
>>727494483>>727494541BASED AF! WE DID IT BRO! >>727494624>CL26 DDR5 Lucky SOB - you have a great taste, bro!
>>727493476Why, what happened? I got a new PC in October but only 32GB of DDR5 RAM, should I have gotten more?
>>7274946714k is a meme for video games. It's genuinely only worthwhile for HDR content that was specifically made to be played on HDR monitors and even then it's still mostly only worthwhile for films not games.
>>727494802You're probably fine with 32Gb for the next 5 years desu
>>727494809It's better for everything, including video games.
>>727494624yeah Im fucked arent I
>built a pc earlier this yearIt feels like riding the last spaceship to escape Earth before the world ending asteroid hits the planet.
>>727494831what happens after 5 years?
>>727494885Cyberpunk but it's lame and gay without augments and robot waifus.
>>727494885Call of Duty 27 would require 128Gb RAM and 3536 Gb of SSD space
>>727494876Same here. We dodged Trump's silly tariffs and this ram+SDD chaos. We made it, bro.
I just bought a 3k gaming computer on the first few days of October.I have never felt so fucking based in my entire life.
>>727494991>We dodged Trump's silly tariffsIt's not just tariffs, the manufacturers are realizing they can just make way more money selling directly to data centers instead of having a retail presence at all. They're still manufacturing the ram just dumping retail. Fairly significant chance this starts happening with the CPU and GPU market as well btw. Not trying to be a panicfag but if it's still cheap where you are and can afford to upgrade you should.
This month is you last chance to upgrade or build a new rig. Miss it out and you will be left behind in the lower dimension.
>bought 32GB of 6000 MT/s in January>probably should've bought 64
>download more RAM guise!What's happening this time?
>>727495165>Fairly significant chance this starts happening with the CPU and GPU market as well btw.So in this scenario is PC gaming just dead or what?
literally how does AI even make any money for the insane amount of resources and cost it induces ?i genuinely dont understand.
>>727495248Major RAM manufacturer straight up announced they're only going to sell to AI companies now and regular consumers wont be able to buy their RAM
>>727494848Well, you probably got it pretty cheap. You’re most likely taking a small FPS hit because of those loose timings (CL46).
>mfw all the demand for AI companies falls of and RAM and SSD price reach new lows in 3 yearsWaitChads where you at?
>>727495267It doesn't. It's a bubble waiting to pop.
>>727495267AI doesn't make money, investors give AI companies money because they're gullible retards (see also: NFT).
>>727495369>>727495340
I haven't upgraded my PC since I built it ten years agoIf I wanted to upgrade any part of it, I would have to upgrade virtually everything as new parts are not compatible with what I have. New MB, new CPU, new GPU, new RAM, likely would need a new powerblock, too, as well as more storage. I'd just be better off building a brand new PC. Which means I'm fucked. I have a 980ti, i7 6700k, 32g ram, etc. It was pretty close to top of the line when I built it and cost roughly 2.5k including all of the extra stuff like monitors and keyboard and shit. If I were to build an equivalent now, it would probably be 4k just for the PC aloneFeels bad man
>>727495267It doesn't but the speculation that maybe it someday it might somehow generates a lot of investment
>>727495253PC gaming will never die. It always rebounds within a few years — it happens every cycle.If you miss the upgrade window, no big deal. Just wait for the insane deals on pre-builts (or whatever comes next).In the meantime, use your current rig to clear that backlog. Plenty of great games to finish!
>>727495253>So in this scenario is PC gaming just dead or what?Most of the world will just be gaming like russia and brazil have been for decades if it goes fully tits up. So AAA will likely be dead aside from whatever the saudis fund with their pocket change. Market will not die but get smaller. UFEI expands more. Hopium version would be mid-size companies like CDPR, Larian, Arrowhead, etc focus more on optimization like Arrowhead did with Helldivers 2 recently to make their games more appealing and we kind of get back on track to how gaming trajectory should have been where "AAA" games are relatively rare
it'll come down eventually just like gpu prices, bitcoin, food prices, gas prices, etc etc
>>727495368yeah I just wanted to get more RAM as I saw it all coming down, turns out the RAM in my prebuilt was already CL42(checked after freaking out) so i guess it wont be too big a diff
I sold my 1660ti rig last year thinking I'd buy a whole new one in the next few years anyway.Welp.
>>727495267It doesn'tIt's literally just a handful of companies shuffling money back and forth to make it look like they have insane funding so they can bait outside investor retards into giving them more money. It's all fake value, yet they keep building more and more retarded datacenters that are poison for neighborhoods they're in so they can launder that money and siphon it off into their own pockets
>>727495461You can upgrade it in batches. First MB+CPU+RAM, then PSU+GPU, then SSD.Or just get the GabeCube if it's affordable.
>>727495580this is like quitting a job without having another lined up, PS5 time for you
>>727495461What's stopping you, bocchers?
>built my computer for elden ring>havent opened the case in 3 yearsi think i won
>>727495654Neet currently>>727495643No. I can't. It's impossible.
>>727495687Clean yo shit nigga
>>727495772
>>727495736Uhh just start a streaming channel and get those simpbux to fund you or whatever.
>>727495645>this is like quitting a job without having another lined up,what a coincidence, that is also what I did a few years ago!>PS5 time for youI am never touching a console. I've been and will be playing old games I've missed out on before. Kohan, GW1, Xanadu, and tons of indies like Banquet of Fools
>>727495871I'm a boy anon
>>727493476>built a high end in 2022>still don't have to worry about upgrading for years to come
>>727495941Did I stutter?
>>727494627This is increasingly my train of thought. The new shit doesn't interest me and I have so much older shit to play, especially with emulation being better than ever. If new bideo gaems stopped being made entirely I probably wouldn't mind.
>>727496679If there's 1 (one) game that interests you, there's always the option to get streaming (geforce now etc) for a month or two. Unless it's some high-octane action game, a little latency doesn't really matter, and you can postpone your update.
>>727493476>crucialWho cares
>didn't greed for the 64GB RAM when I probably could haveshidat least 32 should be fine for a while
>1 Ram stick died a week ago
I upgraded to 32GB last year but now I'm paranoid about moving up to 64 before it gets worseI don't want to be a panic buying moron, fuck
What are you using 64GB of RAM for?
the early bird gets the worm...and the RAM
>>727497248Minecraft and YouTube video essays about lolcows
>>727493476>tfw 8gbhow over is it
>>727497425You don't need 64GBs for that
>>727493476Me who bought 8GB of DDR3 in June 2015.
Upgraded my rig in April, got a 4090, i9-13900kf and 64gb of ram. My first major upgrade since probably 2016 so I'm glad I went all in on it and didn't skimp out.
>>727494093>>727493476>>727494483>>727494541>>727494703>I GOT MINE WHIPPERSNAPPER! proof your ram wont blow up by tomorrow?
>>727497494The AI bubble will likely pop in a year when investors realise it'll never make returns, if not then it will certainly pop when trump leaves office and the US stops throwing money at openAI. If you don't mind playing old games until then you'll be fine.
>>727493476>oh noooo... i'm just gonna have to continue waiting
why price never go down?
>>727498020Any anti-AI presidential candidate would win in a landslide, which is why there will never be an anti-AI presidential candidate
>>727497961I don't use my PC at all LOL checkm8
>>727498020since people will still buy at higher price as there will be no other option, they prices could likely still remain high after bubble pop
>>727497248For gaming + normal browsing + even streaming/recording? 32 GB is the sweet spot in 2025. 64 GB is basically the “I have money and I want to flex / never upgrade again for 8 years” tax.tldr: Unless you’re doing actual work that eats RAM or running big local AI models, 64 GB is a luxury flex, not a necessity.
>>7274972481 single image of your mother
>>727498702My mom is a loli
>>727498123You refuse to kill Billionaires
>>727498123>>727498627remember when they said grocery prices would go back down once COVID was overlol
>>727498905b-but muh ukraine and tariffs
if you're unsatisfied with your performance right now and you can afford to upgrade, upgradewhen i upgraded I felt like a sucker with the price I paid and yet it's only getting worse. no end in sight until the AI bubble bursts. bite the bullet if you can afford it while you still can
>>727497494oof buy a steammachine instead
This wasn't a joke.These people have names and families btw
>>727493476Waitchads just keep waiting.
>>727493476> PC died early 2020> you know why I couldn’t get another one> by the time shit started looking up, this happenedYeah … I will stay in my cave with all my retro library until a miracle happensI can wait for 5 years if I have to
>>727496950Crucial is probably a much bigger player than you're aware of, Micron is one of the biggest memory producers in the world. If you've ever interacted with an office PC or laptop made by Asus, Dell, HP or Lenovo, chances are it had a Crucial SSD or RAM in it. Since they had the production scale to keep their shit affordable, they were very healthy competition, them pulling out of the consumer market to focus on enterprise is bad news for everyone
>>727494316got 256gb so my xp pc run faster(it didn't)
>>727499217
>>727499316>still no price
>>727499316Gabe knew this was coming
>>727495267it doesn'tthe investors are told tall tale and get sold golden bridges that don't existunless you go conspiracy theories way and its not profit they seek but ((((god))))
>>727499361probably 700/800$still a big hit but getting a full package for that price in this market is a fucking steal
>>727499316Oh yeah or that tooI will wait for the price and more spec details though before I make a decision
>>727499316>>727499361>Samsung's semiconductor unit and its smartphone division have reportedly agreed to continue mobile DRAM supplies on a quarterly basis rather than locking in annual prices>Samsung also signalled that it isn't allowing customers to mitigate potential future price rises with large long-term contracts. "Customers want long-term contracts of several years, but Samsung Electronics does not want to tie up volumes with a specific customer in a situation where prices are rising rapidly," And this is what Samsung is doing internally. Did you lock in the price early enough Gabe?Oh no no.
>>727494435Dunno, I was forced to get CL36 memory and I don't notice any difference.
post your specs
>>727493476There will always be supply as long as there is demand.Someone else will simply fulfill the need, it's only a matter of time.
>>727499672Should've went for 64 GB but oh well.
>>727499690Yeah, they'll fill the need alright, they'll just jack up the price to compensate.
>>727493476Bought as much as I'll ever need earlier this year, thank christ
So do I panic buy more RAM now or is it already over?
>>727499690John China please do the needful
>>727499776haha, it was my old PChere is my newBEHOLD
>>727495941Are you cute? Unless you're literally 300lbs, balding, and with horrible scars all over your face, there's hope
16GB is more than enough to play in 1080p.Also, GTA 6 won't be released on PC until 2029.
>>727499896>7900xt upgraded to a 3060Beast
>>727499079No one's going to do shit, who wants to take out some moogle and get jailed for life?
These shortages and crises happen in cycles, I just build a PC and run it for 6 to 8 years and only upgrade when the market is not shitting itself. The only dumb move is to buy RAM right now.
>>727499896Stop using speccy you retarded sape.
>>727494186>not a massive jumpbought 32gb ddr4 last year at 50€now the same model is 200+€lel
32GB DDR4 fag hereDid I somewhat win? DDR5 is a meme anyway...
>>727500237>DDR5 is a meme anyway...
>>727500237Yesn't, RAM isn't that important until you run out of it
>>727500237is more than enough to play games until 2030, even more probably.
>>727493476I'm gonna wait it out and have the last laugh.
>>727500056no, rx580 to rtx3060>>727500172what else to use that look simple you Neanderthal?
>>727499690>There will always be supply as long as there is demand.lmao. this is more like what if the rich only now discovered gold and started bidding for it with their massive wealth. The poor people might have demand for gold but they will get priced out.Anyone who can make DDR for consumers can also sell HBM memory with way higher profits margins. Either the AI bubble pops or at least deflates, or there would have to be new entrants who are unable to make HBM and can supply crappy memory to consumers.
>>727495267It literally doesn't If you want to save gayming quicker, then unironically go make some AIslop threads so you can burn their resources even more
I bought 96gb 6000/cl30 so I could open a browser while jeetslopping sxc henti just before the first plane hit the ddr towers
>>727500438HWinfo
>>727493476I upgraded to ddr5 from 4 and have 32gb of ram that i got for 90 euros in September. Please tell me 32gb is perfectly fine moving forward I know i missed a missile but still feel I fucked up not going for 64gb
>>727500438My bad, thought you were linux bro replying to yourself and got your shotties backwards
Look who came crawling back to me...It's ok /v/, I forgive you
>>727500235Think he's talking about the performance jump brother
>>727500634>HWinfo>used by nasa
>>727494483>upgraded in JulyFeels so good.
>>727500635i feel like unless you're doing something that specifically needs a large amount of ram, 32gb is probably fine. not like many, if any, games coming out that would require even 16gb are worth playing lol
I missed the boatOwari da
Bought buyed a 6950XT for cheap with a 5800X3D, which should last me a good while. Not that i play many heavy games anyway.If it can play witcher 4 on medium 60 1440p i'll be happy.
whats stopping me from making my own ram?
I've been putting off replacing my 10+ year old graphics card for years, so I still feel like I'm ahead
>>727501112You clearly never dealt with one of these fuckers. Just wait for the prices to crash down, it's not worth the hassle.
no need to panic, prices will drop in a couple years anyway
>>727493476Mfw 96gb of free ddr5 ram I got last year
>>727501217More like a couple decades This ai overbuilding won't be finished well into 2029-203x lolI've never seen aibs Nvidia EVGA and now crucial and ekwb fold and change so fastConsumer hardware is dying blame Bitcoin idiots
this shit is expensive bro
>tfw was allocating all of the excess RAM space for item storage so I could save some measly SSD health>tfw now have to resort to downloading RAM due to the pricestake me back sisters...
>tfw ddr4 feels good
>>727499224This doesn't affect me at all
>>727493476i thought this said waltfags for a second lol
>>727495576you'll be fine unless you want to get more than like 120 native FPS (before framegen), then it starts affecting your shit maybe by like 20%max, so don't worry too much
>>727499848Please respond
>>727501313You joke, but new age cars are going to go up because of this too
I'm happy with my rig, I've just been building comfy mini emulator PCs out of my old obsolete junk. Latest one is an R5 2600/RX580/16Gb, funny to think I'm playing ape escape on a third world super computer
>>727493640RAM prices were stable but very slowly going down throughout the summer. Moreso it was people waiting for Videocard prices to come down before building a new PC and they just got blindsided by RAM because OpenAI decided secretly hoard RAM capacity and announced it October 1st.
>>727501380your anal dildo has a crucial battery in it
>>727501380It will, any business or service you interact with that relies on computers (almost all of them) will incrementally have to spend more on hardware and those IT costs are coming straight out of your bill. Most normalfag PCs rely on Crucial for memory and storage
>>7275017751. You're projecting2. Crucial doesn't make batteries
DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz was $160 when I got it in late 2023, and its $300 when I got it a month ago. Nearly 2x in price.I expect the price will either 2x again, or drop by half, in the next several months. But it absolutely won't stay the same.
>>727501828Micron/Crucial isn't the only fap making memory. Not my problem.
>Upgraded to 32gb last yearfeels good
can i run half life 3?
>>727501846supply of new ones is shrinking rapidly as all the manufacturers shifting production to supply datacenters, no new consumer sticks are being made, except for a very small %, it's not like suddenly everyone decides they no longer need to upgrade their 7 year old pc or stops buying pc's completely, demand is still there and going up with population size, but supply - no, its going down, and it will drive the price up and up and up. bubble burst wont affect it at all initially because you cant just resell server ram to consumers, different products, and manufacturers need to ramp up production again from scratch, will take months to hit the shelves and years to meet demand, and even then, why lower the price if people still buying?
>>727501886They're the only ones with the scale to keep home/business rate sticks cheap, and force their competitors to keep their's cheap to compete with them. It is everyone's problem
>>727501976When this happened with routers in the late 1990s, Cisco opened many new factories and increased supply to meet demand.Then the DotCom bubble burst, and suddenly Cisco went from being the biggest company on the planet to what it is today.Lets see if RAM manufacturers will bet on thus huge demand continuing, like Cisco did, and if they will be correct in that assumption (unlike Cisco).
>>727501965nah it'll need 24Gb vram for real time environment destruction sorry
>>727502045>Wake up>Go to work>Go home>Sleep>But muh Irrelevant internet dramaNot my problem.
>>727497961What the hell is your problem with people who got theirs?
Looking forward to spending $5070 USD buying a 5070 Super TiGayMD cards are more generous with VRAM so they'll probably be even worse
>>727502102>thinking Valve will release a console (SteamBox PC) that can't run their new game
>>727498020>The AI bubble will likely popYour problem starts with you thinking it's a bubble. It's a boom. Like gold. Did gold ever "pop"? It's always going to be profitable.
>>727502084additional problem is that major manufacturers will do everything to ensure prices stay up per product, they just collude to keep low supply and pay small fine for it while getting huge profits, always has been this way, shit is like diamonds, unless china steps it up and shits out good product (doubt)
>>727502172You should still be able to get GPUs for reasonable prices if you buy now. It's RAM that's fucked.
>>727502216B-but faggot breadtuber soiboys told me it's a bubble that will pop!
>>727502103>wake up>go to work>boss informs me that due to increase in overheads they're having to downsize>get laid off>go home to cardboard box>get raped>enjoy it>sleep
>>727502103good goy
>>727502216>Did gold ever "pop"?i mean kinda
>>727502306>>727502312Not my problem
I just panic bought 32GB of ddr5 6000mhz RAM for just under 250.
>>727502258If all manufacturers are keeping supply low on purpose, each one of them has incentive to suddenly up supply and dump stock, to take market share. Such cartels rarely last, there's no honor among thieves.
>>727502216It's a gold rush. It's not gold.
>>727502283AI is a dual track economy. There's the big tech companies and the start ups. The start ups are over valued, too numerous and they've made promises based on hypothetical advances that have yet to occur. Big tech isn't overvalued. They're using AI for stuff it can do right now. I expect a lot of start ups to fold, but big tech isn't going to fold.
>>727502259Doesn't this have a knock on to VRAM?
>>727502216Why do you think gold isn't a bubble?Its trade value vastly exceeds its use value, and this is almost entirely due to speculation. People buy gold to sell gold, basically a bigger fool scheme. That's a textbook bubble.I didn't even think this is a controversial issue, don't we all know its a bubble, just disagree on what state of the bubble we are in and if you can make money finding bigger fools?
>>727502375>250 eddies RAM>Product No Longer Availableoh nonoonononono
>>727493476How many blowjobs from poorfags will I be able to buy if I sell my rig in a couple years? Is it a good deal? I like gaming but if I can trade my rig for, like, 200 sloppies, that might be worth it. >5090 32GB>64GB DDR5>9950x3d>1200W PSU
>>727502469That's coming, but it's not affecting GPU stocks yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zVc4Ke6yDoGPU prices are low right now, compared to the rest of the year.
>>727497248vr
>>727502469Yes, AI data centers rely heavily on VRAM. That's why Nvidia is going to start shipping PCBs out to manufacturers without any
>>727502469VRAM already inflated.Now RAM is inflating.I expect AI engineers will soon figure out how to use the rest of the PC to scale their AI, and that will inflate.
>>727500903Sorry to hear that bro. Maybe there's still an ark you can ride away from the apocalypse.
>>727500903Later on, you can look up in facebook marketplace or craiglist. You could get the decent PC for the reasonable price.
>>727501965If steam machine can run HL3, then your rig could.
>>727502704No games
>use deepfake to flood social media with videos of AI mouthpieces saying extremely racist things>plant the implication that AI will be used to reinstate slavery, destroy black owned businesses, poison their water supplies etc>point niggers towards data centers>chimp looting ensues>police too scared of muh racism to intervene>buy 128Gb of DDR5 from a jig on facebook who has no idea what it is>$20 RAM kit achieved
>>727502680Thanks god that I got 5090 in the early 2025. Fun ride will never end. :)
This is the final month and if you missed out then you are not getting out of this hell.
>>727503121
>>727503183If most people miss on cheap RAM, then most games won't require much RAM.The requirements for video games are a function of the available hardware. You don't publish a game that only a minority of people can play.
>>727503121sounds like a ready-made business plan for the coming years
>RAM gets more expensive...>most of our customers have 16GB of RAM, so we'll just develop games with them in mindwaitfags redeemed
>>727503318>most games won't require much RAMgood luck with that
>>727503183Yeah, Trump’s tariff announcement was the giant flashing sign that something awful was coming—and guess what, it’s here now with this insane RAM and SSD chaos. Lmao.I rushed and built my dream rig back in April 2025, and I absolutely love it. At the time I thought I’d regret it because GPU prices murdered me, but not anymore. My new rig and I are best buddies now. :)
>>727503341sukshit is not, in fact, going to start writing efficient software
>>727503341Aside from the fact that devs don't know how to optimize anymore because they've relied on the consumer just buying better hardware. It is over.
>>727503395that just means you'll be playing PS4 games forever.
>>727503121good luck trying to make server type ram work on your home pc
The funniest part about this is that everyone knew AI was a thing and had 2 years to buy a new pc. Only the anti-ai retards are getting fucked once again by thing they already spewed ridiculous vitriol at.
>>727503318Cope, just refer to this anon's post>>727503390
>>727503452what the hell is a ps4?>>727503480what are you talking about, you weird cunt?
>>72750334116GB RAM is 2008 numbers. 32 has been standard since windows 7.Dark Souls 3 needs page file if you have 32 and that released in 2016.
>>727503509That post has nothing to do with what I wrote.Steam published theri 2025 hardware survey:>43% of Steam users have 16GB RAM>34% of Steam users have 32GB RAMThat's who's buying your game. So if you make your game require more than 32GB of RAM to run well, your game won't sell. Super simple stuff.
>>727495165Won't surprise me if this kills the few remaining pc retailers.
Is DDR5 worth it if I'm just gonna cheap out on CPU and MOBO? I have 2x16 order that should arrive tomorrow, but I think I should just cancel it and buy a 5800x and a new monitor.
>>727493476Remember that they are doing this because THEY HATE YOU AND THEY WANT TO REPLACE YOU.
>>727495267Instead of paying a retard in HR to shred white male resumes you have an AI do it. $100,000 saved.And so on. It's not some guy having a huge AI he types in 'how make money' and it spits out secrets of the universe.
>>727503692It will affect consoles too. Microsoft and Nintendo have confirmed that they will raise console prices. Sony will follow soon.
>>727493476what does this mean? rams are going to get extremely expensive?
>>727503812The most affected will be Valve, who just announced new hardware for sale. Much of it will be sold at a lower price than the components are worth.
I only need 16GB
>>727503763Higher performance, at lower power costs (thus lower temps, thus more expected lifespan). Worth it, imho.
>>727503763Figure out how much RAM the games you want to play require. If it's 16 GB, your 32 GB is more than good enough. If you still feel insecure, return it and pay extra for 64 GB or more.>>727503883Yeah
>>727495267They're banking on them developing AGI, which if they do, and the AI doesn't just nuke everything, will mean they hold a stake in the most valuable resource on the planet.Disclaimer: They're probably delusional
>mfw 24gb ddr4I should have buyed another 16gb stick?
>>727503891Depends. Maybe Gabe locked in a contract for 2026 supply in June. The longer this goes on the more it affects everyone.It's stupid to look too much into the future but at this point PS6 would look more like a +$999 device if they plan to ship with 24-40GB of GDDR7.
>>727504136>should I wait for the non-existent chopper to rescue me
>>727502615Which website is that ?!Certainly not ANY of the local (Bulgarian) websites that *I* know of and use !! :O
>>727502084JDS hired and hired and hired to pump out a shipment then fired 3000 people and shut down the entire building immediately after.
I remember when I used to browse /g/ there was a guy who would spam threads with this wojak about "falling for the 16 GB of RAM meme" I used to laugh at him but now I know he was right all along
>>727503980I already have 32 Gigs of DDR4, but I don't know if going to DDR5 is pointless, since I'm just going to buy the cheapest CPU possible (7600)
>>727502259The more RAM prevents people from building PCs, the more all the other parts will have to try to dump stock at lower prices. This is a huge clusterfuck that could kill vital manufacturers.
>>727502531Ok just wait out the AI bubble a few millenia.
>Sitting comfy on 2x32 DDR5...Dropped 3 paycheks on my rig last year.
Are GPU prices going up too? Built a new PC in January but fell for the AMD scam due to all the shilling here and I want to upgrade to an Nvidia GPU as soon as possible.
>>727504106This is a dumb theory. Lets see the two realistic options and their outcomes:Option 1: It works.>It is possible for an intellect to create a greater intellect than itself, and language models are such a thing.>The language model which is smarter than a human could ever be is able to build a language model smarter than a human ever could (therefore smarter than itself)>This is repeated many times, to the point where the latest language models are so intellugent we have no idea how they come to the conclusions they do>This revolutionizes all industry, production and services, leading to a huge DEFLATION because there's abundance of everything and humans are unemployable>Communism achieved! Or Armaggedon achieved, one of the two.If this happens, does OpenAI "win"? Are its investors, debtors, stock holders in any way better off? If general AI is achieved, money will be reformed, and the economy will look completely different.Option 2: The above doesn't happen.>It either isn't possible for an intellect to build a higher intellect, or language models aren't it, or OpenAI is just not good at it>The product ends up taking up the assistance space instead - search engine, data collection, programmer aid, phone calls, support chats, close-to-human voice and image generation>The combined size in dollars of these markets is less than the combined debt OpenAI has, and they wouldn't be monopolists in any of these spaces>OpenAI's debtors take the company apart, and utilize its new technologies in their existant products - Google, Visual Studio, smart phones.So either its a full complete revolution and nothing is the same, so it doesn't matter you were "in it" early, or things remain about the same, and OpenAI fails, and its early investors are robbed (except the very big corpos, who basically just overpaid for research but can salvage it).I see no world in which Texas is happy with that big new data center, for example.
I don't get it?literally bought it in November
>>727504330hardwarebg's store, how do you not know about them? they are the biggest pc building/overclocking community in bulgariahttps://iskampc.com/kompyutri-i-komponenti/kompyutrni-komponenti/ram-pamet/pc-ddr4-pamet/team-ram-5-drb32gc32-32-pamet-team-group-t-force-delta-rgb-ddr5-32gb-2x16gb-6400mhz-cl32/
>>727504627>Are GPU prices going up too? Afraid so. It will happen soon. https://gizmodo.com/do-not-build-a-pc-right-now-prices-out-of-control-2000694774
AAAAAAAAAAAA BUYBUYBUYBUYBUYBUYBUYBUY
>>727503390Except this has nothing to do with trumps tariff dumbshit
>>727494483same, built the king of mid range: 7800x3d, 5070, 32gb cl30 6000mhz ram
Waitchads... we get to relax for 2 whole years until we're saved by Xi opening 20 DRAM factories!
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i bought 64gb of ram in september but it was ddr4 ram for my 10900 cpu.
The GabeCube could've saved PC gaming, just not with that amount of RAM and VRAM.
>>727504648>>This revolutionizes all industry, production and services, leading to a huge DEFLATION because there's abundance of everything and humans are unemployableYes, except they're now (part) owners of the only capital and labor that matters, the AGI, making them infinitely more powerful than all other people. Hell, those other people would be effectively expendable (this is presuming they maintain control of the AI).>If general AI is achieved, money will be reformed, and the economy will look completely different.Yes, except you're far too biased towards the gay luxury space communism idea of reform, when we have no idea what that reform would actually be like, even with prior factors accounted for, only guesses.>2, it doesn't happenThey're banking on it happening, which is why I said they were delusional.>So either its a full complete revolution and nothing is the sameAgain, you're assuming that their partial control over said AI would be worthless in said scenario where it pans out, when you have no idea what would happen.
>>727504797No shit, dumbshit. It just foreshadowed the mess. Now it's spilling over into full chaos, with Trump's tariffs jacking up costs on China/Taiwan/South Korea imports by 54%/32%/26%, hitting RAM, SSDs, PC parts, and consoles the hardest.Microsoft already raised Xbox prices twice this year (Series X now $649.99), Nintendo hiked Switch prices and accessories, and Sony bumped PS5 models by $50 in August (Pro now $749.99). All of them are getting wrecked too.
>>727504898yeah me too. if it costs $500-$700, it will save PC gaming.
>>727504106>AGII can't believe CEOs think it's actually possible. It's embarrassing.
>>727493476literally me. all sold out now
>>727505002If general AI is achieved, the government will sieze it. Unless the AI is both able and willing to wage war against the US army to defend its capital owners, they won't be enriched much by its existence.I will also remind you, when Britain launched the first drednaught full steel battleship, it lost its naval supremacy. It previously could fight the rest of the world combined, but that one new ship means that all other ships were obsolete. Suddenly Britain didn't thousands of more ships than France, they had 1 (one) more ship than France, because steel ships were the only thing that mattered now. This British innovation cost Britain untold fortune to build a new navy and new capacity, and basically it forced itself into an arms race even though it was an arms leader previously. So would old money benefit from a radical redistribution of wealth and power that comes with a huge deflationary invention? Certainly slave owners weren't very happy when the factory machinery got invented and popularized. Certainly land owners prefered money to be in land, not machines.
>>727505080They could sell it for $50 and it would still be a scam. Devs will never optimize their games.
The goal is to prevent people from getting their own PC at home. So everyone in the future will rent cloud services.
>>727504709>how do you not know about them?of course, I *DO* know about HBG, but never KNEW that they had a *STORE* ?! O_ocheers.
>>727505271I bet Google regrets getting rid of Stadia lmao
>>727493476What's a RAM? Sounds retarded.
I still have a GTX 1080 with a mediocre amount of RAM. I won't feel FOMO because there's nothing to MO on.
>>727505318they also do build videos for some full pc orders from their storehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPPoZbFe9i8
>>727505097With our current technological base, yes it's likely a pipe dream.I assume they're just desperate because they can see a total global collapse on the horizon and want to head it off.>>727505137>If general AI is achieved, the government will sieze it.>Unless the AI is both able and willing to wage war against the US army to defend its capital ownersYes? Assuming it can exponentially grow, and said owners don't just hide the discovery until it's too late for the highly effective and prompt governments to get their claws on, then they can do fuck and all unless they want their entire country to devolve into chaos.>Innovation destabilizes existing powerNo shit, that's why they're getting their foot in the door. I'd be willing to bet that the majority just see it as hedging a bet, rather than a genuine belief it will happen.I'd also mention that Britain wasn't the only country trying to develop said ships, they just got there first.
>>727500305what's the difference? it's the same size
>>727505367short term memory for robots
>>727493476I mean 32gb for 200 bucks is more yeah but not in the range where I where it becomes a life ruining purchase. Bit dramatic.
thank God I'll be getting a steam machine and it's more than enough to play what I play, most demanding thing I do is playstation 3 emulation, which the machine will be able to handle just fine
>>727496864A shame streaming doesn't get as much hype anymore but it is getting used. I saw xbox had some issues on their network from all the people streaming outer worlds 2 on launch while they wait for the install.
>got 32GB DDR4 in MarchI planned update to ddr5 and m5 next yearJust upgrade my am4 cpu shit
>>727502216>Did gold ever "pop"?Do all the abandoned gold mining cities count?
>>727505608nigga you want to buy CL30 RAM, not this cheap shit
>>727505975>built some temporary shacks. made their money and then left.what residual effects did the end of the gold rush have? because when the ai crash 'supposedly' happens it will crash the economy
>me when I'm rockin' 52 cas 6400mhz ramwhy would anyone pay more for slower 6000mhz :clueless emoji:
>>727506348Californian Indian genocide happened in part because of the gold rush. That's the oppression of gamers today.
>>727506042brainlet here, what does CL30 mean? what does the CL part mean? what does the 30 number mean? is 30 the best?
>>727506348>what residual effects did the end of the gold rush havePeople quitting their jobs and selling their land and abandoning their families to go dig holes in the mountains, and 99% of them ended up not finding anything and going broke.
RTX 5060 Ti (8GB VRAM) is actually going down in price. Nobody is buying them?Should be sufficient for indie gaming.
>>727493476would be silly if their factory got hit by natural disaster
>>727506704just ask AI you dumb retard
>>727507185>just ask AI$0.02 have been added to your GPU cost.
>>727494627Starsector requires a pretty fucking beefy CPU and GPU for actual sized fights though
>built a whole ass top of the line pc in june Feels so good when you're in the hood
>>727505427thanks, but I'm gonna pass.OTHER Hardware outlets in Sofia have BETTER deals (even though they're theoretically ALL in the same cartel and price-fix as they wish, INCLUDING "iskampc")PLUS their websites are easier to navigate and search & find what you want precisely !! :P.
>>727506704its the timing, lower = betterthe best is like 26 but good luck getting it
my pc im posting from has crucial ram right now. sad.
>>727507295>search for CL26>see this>look where its shipped fromyou just can't make this shit up
>>727507449>Free shipping >from IsraelWhat the...
>Free shipping>Puts the price up $50What the...
will this affect VRAM pricing also? im seeing GPUs have normal prices after a long time of being heavily over MSRP
>>727507768I forgot the reason for it, but gpu pricing is actually declining right now, it's the best moment to buy a new one if you need it
>>727507665>>727507761
>>727494186Should I buy the migu motherboard?
>>727494921nah those requirements would be the min. for some AA/AAAA half-baked new IP game
>>727507768>$600 for a 5070>normallol
>>727507929what? both the 9070XT and 5070Ti are at MSRP now
Will I make it for the next few years bros?
>>727508018>nvidiaYeah.
>>727508018Yeah, that rig will handle anything you throw at it for the foreseeable future
>>727508018it depends, do you plan to play GTA 6 over 60fps?
>stuck on ddr4>32Gbfuck.
>>727507172you dont even need a dedicated GPU for indie gaming
Am I good?
>>727506704For the record, CL36 is around 1% better than CL30
>>727508052What's the deal with Nvidea Vs AMD GPUs? I've been out of the loop.
>but how we will play AAAAA Slop in 4K without pcs?*eeehmmm*
>>727508393Whoops sorry, other way around
I remember thinking back in the summer>I have some extra money I should buy some RAMthen I didn't.
>>727508393not really, depends on your CPU and games you play, it can go up to 10% faster in some scenarios
AAAAAAAA FUCK YOU GUYS FOR MAKING ME FOMO
>>727508370>implying hades 2 runs on an integrated laptop gpu
>>727495267That's the neat part, it doesn't.For example, OpenAI has to earn 9 times of what they currently earn to be profitable.It's a black hole of money.
>>727508662The improvement just isn't worth playing nearly double though, especially when I mostly play single player games.
>>727508823>laptopwell there is your fucking problem,most AMD cpus have a build in GPU than can run almost every indieshit game
>>727508140i'm sure it'll be fine with DLSS frame gen. Can play any triple A game at 384x216 upscaled with frame gen for a silky smooth 120 fps experience, just don't worry about the blurring, artifacting and hitching
>>727495267>insane amount of resources and cost it induces ?lol what?It uses the same amount of power used to light christmas trees each year
yeah whatever i'm gonna grab some 4x16GB from a clueless grandma in my local flea market
>>727508985just buy ps5 and then return it after finishing gta6 a this point
>>727498832>wont solve the problemYou fucking retards support central banking and endless money printing and wonder why prices go up.
>>727509136Flea Market Montgomery?
>>727508018are you daft
>>727509116not sure if your joking or legit retarded, lately the internet is full of low IQ retards from the 3rd world that i can't even tell if someone is joking
>mfw I bought [CORSAIR Vengeance RGB DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz] in June for like $180 and I get to watch all of the news about RAM shortages without caring
>>727506042Not falling for your pump and dump scheme mr Rammenstein.
>>727507172>Should be sufficient for indie gaming.I'm using a 3070 8gb to play actual modern games at 1080p and I'm not even noticing any problems.
>>727509516Okay retard tell me how much power AI uses and how to compares to other thingsYou know for water usage, AI uses the same amount the world uses simply to grow avocados.
>>727508370This post is made by a fish who thinks he is wimming deep but has a vast ocean beneath him of 12 year old making a game in unity and it running at 9001 fps because it just uses all of your system.
>>727493476>I need to play modern slop.Too bad I don't have this problem. RAM prices don't affect me.
>>727507768Nvidia considers themself a AI hardware provider now. Very likely that any new gens will be even worse optimized for games so just buy the cards now if they are cheap.Or wait till january when traditionally is the best time to get cheap hardware because vendors are actually sorting out unsold christmas stock, not fake sales like black friday.
>>727508018>155HzHow did you land on that?
>>727509673NTA but I thought every time we prompt ChatGPT it uses 4 bottles of water that we'll never get back... We're draining the ocean bros...
>>727495340And that's a problem... how?In a free market, if there is demand from ordinary consumers, companies will emerge to meet that demand.The world has always worked this way. If you sell eggs only to the King and his court, another farmer will step in to sell your eggs to the peasants.
>>727509673quick search:>AI datacenters in 2024 used roughly 80–150 TWh of electricity, which is about the same power used by 8–15 million households.and for 2025 its probably double
Built a new PC for DD2 and Wilds Dec last year. Every cloud has a silver lining I suppose.
>>727510238and both of those game run like absolute dogshit lol
>>727510285Last update for Wilds really fixed things for me. Not that it ever should have been an issue on a 5080 in the first place.
>>727510025>companies will emerge to meet that demandYeah, and charge whatever the fuck they want
>they boughted before the market gets flooded with RAMs and becomes dirt cheapLOL
>>727510360it will only get fixed truly if they remove Denuvo >>727510025>In a free marketthats the joke its not a free market, its all a monopoly
>>727510025>chip fabrication is as easy to set up as a chicken coop
>>727510441that will happen but probably in 2030 when AI datacenters find a new thing to hoard
>>7275083834x8gb sticks? looks like your mobo can't handle 4 sticks and they are all downclocked slightly?i'm not expert but that's what I see in that pic.
>>727510628its probably a retard who didnt turn on XMP, his ram is at 2400, i think thats the standard speed without xmpalso 4x8GB.. that shit will probably crash with xmp
>Brought 32GB RAM under $80 + 1TB NVMe SSD also under $80 last year
>>727495267Don't know what they are thinking AI can do in regards to the economy unless robotic automation is involved because one it only makes white-collar jobs easier at best and at worst completely replaces them which leads to unemployment and therefore less consumer for the economy which hurts the economy by default and defeats the whole premise of white collar jobs (most of them are fake and only exist to keep some occupied and as consumers that don't like blue-collar work and have a high-average IQ). And so far AI has either underwhelming results or even dangerous since its used for facebook propaganda purposes by third-world dictatorships against the west.
