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I wish there were games that copied dragons dogma combat system
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Best I can do is a soulslike clone
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>>727494691
I believe there's an anon indie dev around these parts that's doing exactly that
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>>727494691
>20 years since the release of Shadow of the Colossus
>only games to attempt real time grabbing and climbing onto colossal bosses are Dragon's Dogma, that indie game that fell flat on its ass and Monster Hunter (kinda)
Are devs retarded?
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>>727494798
I hate souls combat so much, it's slow and boring. it's just pattern recognition replacing turn order from traditional turn based combat. not to mention the controls are pure ass, any game that has melee mapped to the triggers and bumpers is an immediate pass for me, attacks must be mapped to the face buttons.
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>>727494691
you will get more rollslop instead
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>>727494691
monster hunter
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>>727495097
is absolutely nothing like dd
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>>727495148
it's basically the same
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>>727494691
most kino armor system
too bad I accidentally made my character look like blonde dutch van derline
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>>727495429
no it's not, mh is focused on going out and fighting one monster within a time limit and has absolutely nothing in common with dd's combat system. they are in no way; shape or form, anything alike.
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>>727494691
We need to have Dogma-likes genre
This is the only way to save the gaming industry
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>>727495475
aren't there mods that allow you to edit your character?
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>>727494963
Wild Hearts, but it's very janky and makes one of its marquee abilities rather unreliable.

I assume the indie game you're talking about is Praey for the Gods. I thought it had potential, but all the tacked on survival-crafting bullshit takes away from the experience.
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>>727495927
there was a merchant in the camp town that sells a paper of metamorphosis I think it was called. But i stuck with the look since it grew on me. My original intent was to make a conan blonde muscular guy with a mustache and it all went downhill from there
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>>727494691
I'm sure the shitty chinks will do it soon, but make it worse like usual.
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>>727496016
don't beat yourself, the lighting is just very bad
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I still get assmad thinking about DD2
Literally a great foundation fucked up beyond salvaging
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>>727496127
considering what's his face fucked off from crapcom I hope he finally fucking makes his original vision of dragons dogma
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>>727496369
Thats some serious copium my friend, I think Itsuno was the quintessential ideas guy, came up with some good stuff but fuck all ability to turn it into a product
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>>727496369
DD1 was kinda mid, which Itsuno directed, but everyone loved DDDA, which Itsuno was not involved with.
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>>727497002
>DD1 was kinda mid, which Itsuno directed
Wrong. DD1 was my favorite game BEFORE Dark Arisen was even a thing. I really wish people would stop pretending that Dragon's Dogma was mediocre / trash before Dark Arisen came out.
Dark Arisen didn't change the gameplay mechanics (save for a few numerical nerfs and buffs on Augments). All Dark Arisen did was add a new dungeon full of fun enemies to fight. It's an incredible expansion, and I've probably put hundreds of hours in it, but Dragon's Dogma is STILL a 10/10 game, gameplaywise even without it.
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my game idea was just ripping off this combat but adding vocations I wish were real like a Monk class because imagine being able to grab enemies but also throw, slam, divekick, lariat, suplex etc or grabbing big bosses and dragging or punching them into the ground. Gunsmith and I think Lancer or something like it was in the MMO
I like the structure of vocations and hybrids, dont know why action RPGs never copy it and just still stick with the isolated class system
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>>727497185
And it fixes the broken fast travel system which is what most people care about. I guarantee you most players never even approach BBI
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Crimson desert will probably be the dragon's dogma we deserve(and will get)
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>>727497895
unfortunately it's souls slop and nothing like dragons dogma
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Chinks love their soulsslop and wuxiaslop. Don't expect anything good coming from outside of Japan especially faggot asian countries like China and worse Korea who hate them. Capcom kind of try to do it with Monster Hunter but fucked up completely with Milds.
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>>727497185
you're a retard
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Zoomers are too retarded to play anything outside of press x to parry and Fromsoft got CCP money and ties to buy off influence.
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>>727499067
How so?

Dark Arisen didn't change the physics, the gameplay, or the playstyle of the various classes.

Dark Arisen didn't add climbing, perfect blocking, and riposites.

Dark Arisen didn't add the beloved skills of the series like Maelstrom, Helmsplitter, or Riochet Hunter.

Dark Arisen simply ADDED to an already great game.

People already LOVED Dragon's Dogma BEFORE Dark Arisen. OG fans used to say that the real game didn't even start until after you beat the Dragon, because that's when Everfall opened up, new enemy variants and variants were added to fight, the UR Dragon became available to fight, and the enemy spawns changed on the world map -- most notably, with a new Dragon fight being added right outside of Gran Soren, the Bluemoon Tower, and The Watergod Altar.

How am I retarded for liking this? For fucksake, it was the people like me who bought and praised the game, who made it even possible for Dark Arisen to even be made. Do you think Capcom just made Dark Arisen out the kindness of their heart? They made it because Dragon's Dogma had a hardcore and vocal fanbase.
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>>727496127
same. somehow they managed to improve almost nothing, while making everything else else worse. I liked how your character could stand up to preserve stamina when climbing monsters, and i liked the new ways to topple larger monsters and the new vocations were alright. thats about it, its kind of impressive how less inspired it felt compared to DD1.

It genuinely feels like a game that wouldve come out before DD1
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>>727498790
That's nothing like what I heard and I suspect both of us haven't played it.
I know you can do wrestling moves/throws and your kit is really big with button combinations which certainly isn't souls.
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>>727499541
I played through DD before DA. Then bought it again once DA released but never got far into it. Only completed DA a few years back
I prefer the mainland rather than the dungeon. It'd be nice if the two were more merged together though.
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>>727497895
I dunno man, all they've shown is combat against humans or those weird looking human-like goblins, and there's robots. I haven't seen a single cool dungeon, and the map looks barebones.
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>>727494691
There is anon.
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>game is called Dragon's DOGma
>no dogs in it, only cat people
No wonder it flopped
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>>727500383
>tfw we will never get ALCHEMIST KINO for DD2
FUCK ITSUNO AND CRAPCOM
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>>727500383
Action RPG MMOs are a fucking rarity but WoWfags like their cookie clickers
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>>727500454
Dog people with floppy ears and different breeds would be kino. Too bad most faggots make them into wolves for some reason.
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>>727500265
I had a blast in base DD which also has like 2 main quest dungeons in the base game(merchant ogre cave and moon tower)
My enjoyment doesn't hinge on it and people who played it at events praise the combat but you're entitled to your opinion until we see more/release.
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>>727500548
If DDO was released in the wast then the MMO landscape might have looked very different today. Blame the racist nips that thought releasing this medieval European inspired fantasy RPG exclusively in Japan was a good idea.
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>>727500589
Shame, because its a capcom classic.
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>>727494691
i like dragon's dogma because it takes the idea of "what if we combine DMC cuhrazy combat with an open world RPG?" and does it right, making the right amount of adjustments to make it make sense in the new paradigm. compare that to nier automata which goes "what if we combine bayo cuhrazy combat with an open world RPG?" and absolutely shits the bed in the gameplay department, just feeling like absolute dogshit to play.
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>>727496127
>Still pretending that DD2 is bad
What kind of mental illness is this
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>tfw hitting some poor fuck with the ring upgraded Skull Splitter and watching their health absolutely vanish
The way you could slightly abuse jumping momentum into the vertical death Beyblade spin to have up to a whole extra solid second of spinning damage was insane
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>>727494691
That would take some effort. It’s easier to just download the FPS template from the Unreal store and make another boring shooty game.
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>>727501575
>tfw the game felt boring once i learned about x4 conqueror's periapts + explosive arrows + tenfold flurry
everything dies in seconds, even death. grigori doesn't even make it out of the chapel. it is too stronk.
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>>727497671
DDA ruined the traveling and adventuring aspect with how many portal crystals they gave you and on PC everyone got the free eternal ferrystone ruining it further while at the same time giving you OP armor right from the start making the early game a joke.
The "balance" changes made in DA were absolute shit.
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>>727501221
Discord trannies gonna discord tranny.
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Dragons dogma 2 exists you know tranny op?
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>>727496127
All DD2 needs is more enemy variety and exploration to warrant for more combat opportunities and engaging scenarios. While playing the dumbass story all I could think about was venturing beyond the city walls and fighting whichever monster I came across.
>>727501221
I have around 100 hours on it and bought on release, it's a massive fucking disappointment despite being a genuinely great game.
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All they had to do was bring DDO to the West and the IP would have been even bigger which would have meant a better sequel. Capcom make retarded decisions all the time though.
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>>727499541
>Dark Arisen didn't change the physics, the gameplay, or the playstyle of the various classes.
yeah it just made their balance not dogshit and added many more fun features
>Dark Arisen didn't add climbing, perfect blocking, and riposites.
yeah they just added enemies that are ACTUALLY fun to use thata against
>Dark Arisen didn't add the beloved skills of the series like Maelstrom, Helmsplitter, or Riochet Hunter.
it actually made several skills and augments no longer dogshit or braindead gamebreaking
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>>727500383
I wish I could get into DDO, but I just can't stand MMOs
I don't understand why these retarded companies keep copying souls when they could make a DD-like game or even a monster hunter-like
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>>727501836
>The "balance" changes made in DA were absolute shit.
"Uh yeah it made several skills and perks actually worth using instead of trash... but i HATE IT because that one skill gives a sensible +20% damage instead of a +70% damage!!"
actually kill yourself

> giving you OP armor right from the start making the early game a joke.
its the same logic as monster hunter expansions where you arent actually supposed to use them for your first playthrough
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>>727496369
>muh true vision for real this time
kek shitsuno dick riders are clinically insane
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That would require effort that would go unappreciated by the slop eating masses who are perfectly content with a half-assed Souls or Sekiro knockoff.
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>>727494691
Why? It's mediocre asf
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>>727497671

The fast travel system is perfect, don't play a video game if you don't understand the intention behind the mechanics.
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>>727506303
A youtuber said so.
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>>727494691
>Press skill button
>12 meters long dash that automatically sets range to home in into the enemy
>Spam skill button or attack attack attack wait attack
>Enemy gets stunlocked and dies
Riveting combat
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>>727494691
Too complicated. It's faster and easier to just make stilted movement, retarded attack hitboxes and then add an iframe roll that deals with everything.
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>>727494691
it's just souls combat but with lock on only for spells and the meleeshit gets bamham automatic magnet locking onto enemies
so basically, shittier souls combat
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>>727497002
Shut the fuck up, you zoomer mutt.
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>>727507164
>Too complicated.
Lol
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>>727506569
These same people shit on witcher 1 combat when it had more depth.
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>>727494691
>tfw no games similar to DD to this day
>the sequel made almost every gameplay elements dumbed down to the max, on top of having a worse story somehow, forgettable characters, and an engine that shits the bed if it tries to render more than 10 npcs in town
I miss my pawns...
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>>727494691
That not a single western RPG dev actually tried to make a full-fledged RPG based as close as possible to DD is the real crime
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>>727494691
Dogma combat sucks
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>>727507642
because the game fucking sucks and bombed
why would anybody try to copy it
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Path of Exile
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>>727494963
>>20 years since the release of Shadow of the Colossus
>>only games to attempt real time grabbing and climbing onto colossal bosses are Dragon's Dogma, that indie game that fell flat on its ass and Monster Hunter (kinda)
And none of those made it actually fun
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>>727507694
Shut up faggot retard
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>>727507476
lol
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>>727494691
Very few games gave me a sense of adventure back in the day. That's why i hold this game so dearly.
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Try Nioh.



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