>*saves your lower back*Well, /v/?
>>727501078Should save my upper back instead.
Just do some core excercises every day you don't need a $500 chair.
>>727501283Where do you think you are?
>>727501283what core exercises should I do? I haven't exercised in years
>>727501078treating your back like a jenga tower is not the solution. Turn your back into a fortress by doing push ups and planks regularly.
>>727501078save yourself some $$$ by simply getting morbidly obese, then it won't matter what you sit on, your fat layers will naturally adjust to support your spine with perfect precision, as god intended
>Playing games in a chairRecliners are way better, and so, so much more comfortable.
You vill have ze optimal posture und you VILL be happy.
One day i'll be able to afford one of those $1.5k Hermon Miller gamer chairs.
>>727501782Fucking hate mesh chairs. They put pressure on my prostate and sitting on them is hell.
>>727501782This one has saved me. Best grand I ever spent
>either you get an okay overpriced western chair or a cheap Chinese below okay chairHmmm
Mirra 2 chads
The steelcase leap v2 felt uncomfortable as fuck
>>727502408Shill me on this. I can get a used Aeron for £50 more than a used Mirra 2
>>727502106You are doing something horribly wrong or you have ass cancer. >>727502048Just buy one second hand, retard.
>>727501078For me, it's the Steelcase Amia.
>>727502048you can get them heavily discounted via refurbished listings. offices that are closing down/relocating will often offload their HM chairs to furniture consignments who will then refurbish the chair and sell on for 60/70% off. I was able to get a Mirra 2 for 250 bongs.
>>727502479its a good chair unless you have a huge ass, the seat will be too narrow for you. Otherwise it is a very good option for extremely long sitting periods because you will have no pains in your back from it's design. Financially speaking though I would never buy a new HM I got this one from an office for 300$
>>727502479I've got an Aeron and I love it, but the Mirra looks pretty good. I hear it's a little cheaper in terms of construction but some parts look nicer, like the arm rest adjustment.
Too late for the most of us
>>727502626Is it really though? That shit is expensive.
>>727502496>>727502647>Just get a used chair someone already farted into hundreds of timesNo
>>727502647Hell even ebay has some companies that reupholster used high-end office chairs from office liquidations. My dad got a Herman Miller Aeron for like $280 from one of said companies a few years back, and you'd never be able to tell it was used without prior knowledge.
>>727502735I got it for $300 from a company that refurbishes chairs from closing down businesses. Nobody pays full price for these chairs other than established businesses and legitimate retards.
>>7275027611500$ or a lightly fart dusted 200$ If you are rich as fuck go ahead and buy the new one and take her virginity yourself.
For you fat fuckers the mirra 2 holds up to 350lbs.
>>727502165up your game
>>727502761if you really need to spend an extra thousand to get the exact same thing then more power to you I guess
>>727501078>use picrel as my chair for 6 fucking years>back hurts in 1 hour>buy mesh chair for 200$>back doesnt even hurt after 12 hours of sittingbest investment you can do /v/. buy one.
>>727502106What? i've recently grabbed myself an aeron and it's been very good, i used to sit the fuck outta my tailbone till it hurt, and i've had no such problems with the mesh.
>>727501078My old office chair is falling apart. Not a gaming chair just a leather office chair I've had for a long time. So I've been in the market for a good one for a while. Everything everyone posts looks both uncomfortable and expensive. The expensive part of being uncomfortable is more concerning. But I can't actually walk into a store to test most of these. I'd have to travel a considerable distance just to find the specific allocated stores that sell the Herman Miller stuff. And it just looks awful if I'm being quite honest.
>>727501347Deadlifts, Squats, OHP, Pull ups, Planks
>>727502772I doubt they reupholstered it. Most of the mesh is just pulled off of old chairs and resold as a set unit, they're a hassle to re-mesh. I had the mesh on mine fail after 20 years the other month (it was already slightly torn when I got it 10 years ago, and I've used it all day every day since then), cost me 150 bucks for a new set in great condition. The plastic was a little oily though.>>727502761Mesh chairs let all the farts right through them, and the fabric can be cleaned. Mine didn't smell at all when I got it.
>>727502957These retards don't realize you can just buy a cheap cleaner and clean them yourself if you're so anal about it (hehe). Every chair has its own official cleaning code it follows but mine allows enzyme cleaners which basically remove any biological odor that could possibly be present. Most enzyme pet odor cleaners will work.
>>727502850I got a new one. 1500 aint that bad of an investment for a dude with a job. I hope this lasts atleast 10 years
>>727503090Either they reupholstered it, thoroughly cleaned it, or the prior owner had an abnormally clean smelling asshole. Regardless, it was clean enough to not gross me out at all.
>>727503231They probably just cleaned it, or it wasn't used much. Only the fabric can really hold smells, and the total fabric for the chair is less than a shirt, so it wouldn't be hard to clean. For foam chairs, sure, the fart smell sinks deep into the foam and you can't really get rid of it without just putting new foam in, but for mesh chairs it's not an issue.
>>727503071Buy once, cry once.
>>727502840I got 2 for €120 each. At first it didn't feel that special but I can sit on it without any discomfort for 5+ hours straight. Unlike Aeron which feels like a cloud scuplted by god himself when you sit on it but becomes a torture machine once the front edge pan starts digging in your thighs.
>>727503071I slouched a lot when I sat so I thought I would hate all of these ergonomic chairs, but I bought one, it forced me to change my posture, and I have far less back soreness after long days sitting at my desk. If pain isn't a problem for you that's great, I'm jealous, but it might catch up to you in the future and you'll be sorry.
Is the original Mirra worth buying?
>>727503406I sit on my Aeron for 16 hours a day and it's always comfy. I do move around a bit and I've got a foot stool though. Honestly, I feel bad for people with regular desks, corner desks are king and often come with a shelf you can set at foot height.
>>727503523Eh, the back is shit. The 2 at least has some posture shit so you forget it's just plastic, but the 1 is half of an okay chair.
>>727503406Yeah, I can't stand the Aeron for the exact reason you said. The amia may not be as flashy and high tech (chair-wise), but I love how it's adjustable lumbar support is subtle enough to provide relief without contorting my back into weird angles that it's not used to. Also the armrests are really nifty with all the different angles and heights they can support.
>>727502984Yeah I'm sure hard wood makes a more expensive chair like the Aeron seem reasonable. But it's kind of like a disingenuous example.
Floor desk and sit on the floor
>>727503080You don't need all of that, just deadhangs and pull-ups
Why do posture fixing chairs all intentionally look so uncomfortable? I hate it. Why can't they all have a nice thick cushioning on the back? I just can't commit to your idea of comfort. I will take anything that looks like an executive office chair and you can get fucked with your gay little chair club on here.
>>727504002It might look uncomfortable, but it isn't. It's just like having stiffer cushioning for your lumbar.
>>727501716post your recliner setup
>>727501782I had this for 10 years and it still looks like new Seriously, I don't get why people are so cheap and buy that IKEA crap. You pay more in the long run. And you are uncomfortable while doing it
>>727501078These chairs suck, they don't help my back at all.
I'm 6'4'' and the leap isn't tall enough.
>>727502106I had one and it was comfortable but the mesh design makes it attract dust like crazy so I had to run the vacuum all over the back and underside of it every time I cleaned my room, and also the seat got holes torn in it over time by the back buttons on my pants.
>>727504556I have just the throne for you my king
>>727504840put a hole in the seat and remove the bottom tray (wouldn't want to make it too easy for jannie to clean it up)
>>727501716the SX-8U77s line is highly overrated
you're not gonna make it without some exerciseget a roman chair
>>727504534It's because it's a false economy. Monkey brain says "well, it's a fraction of the price, if it lasts X as long, it's good!". It's like how furniture has gone from expensive pieces that will literally last hundreds of years to flatpack garbage that will wobble for 20 and then get thrown out because it's out of fashion. It's hard to spend good money on good products. My mouse was 150 bucks, I would've never paid that new, I bought it second hand for 30 bucks. And after using it, my biggest regret was not just buying it new, it was totally worth the listed price.
>>727505468>Monkey brain says "well, it's a fraction of the price, if it lasts X as long, it's good!"Or perhaps there's just better things to spend your money on. Like a good pair of headphones which would be more worth the investment because it will enhance your gaming experience if you hear something sounding almost as good as a good pair of speakers. Or you know putting money aside for computer parts. People have priorities of what it is more important to spend money on and because of that a chair might come off as the last priority. That is why I've held off for as long as I have to buy an expensive ergo chair. Not those specific examples but comparable things to it.
The used ergo char market only exist in america because of tech startup culture there.
>>727501652This is very false. I got super fucking fat during Covid, and I couldn’t use chairs until I lost weight because sitting hurt my tailbone so much that I wouldn’t be able to stand back up without crying.
I've been working out. Doing stretches. Switching back and forth between standing and sitting. Sitting with good posture. The sciatica isn't going away, bros... it's so over.
>>727506598I spent 250 bucks on my aeron, and after sitting in it I regret not just buying one at full price the day it came out. I understand looking for a deal, or thinking other things are higher priority, but a chair should really be the first priority. If I had the choice between an Amazon chink special 50-200 dollar chair and a top of the line rig, or an Aeron and a 20 year old laptop, I'd take the laptop in a heartbeat. >>727506751The used chair market exists in every country with offices. I'm sorry you live in the third world.
>>727506896>The used chair market exists in every country with officesWrong. Importing a refurbished chair from Denmark of which only total of ten exist that cost 80% as brand new doesn't count, faggot.
>>727506886>>727503836Your pelvis is misaligned
>>727506598People often just buy shit without doing any research. Ikea is popular because it works and everyone buys Ikea. When you don't have time or are too lazy to read about chairs and try sitting your ass on them you buy what everyone else has because it can't be bad if it's that popular. I guess that's the logic, usually. There are options just as cheap as Ikea but when I needed to quickly buy a bed frame I went for theirs.
>>727507393>There are options just as cheap as Ikea but when I needed to quickly buy a bed frame I went for theirs.I built an Ikea frame a few years back, it was fucking shit. Cheap metal brace, weak slats, after a few years the outside still looks alright but the slats have bowed heavily down, and the person who uses it is pretty small.My bedframe, on the other hand, was the same kind of price but the frame is all steel, and it takes up less space for the same mattress size. Haven't had an issue with it, even got it for free because they sent me shorter legs and I complained about it.
>>727506896In Europe only Germany and UK have decent markets for high end office chairs, everyone else is fucked. Some less, some more
>>727507602Do the Germs have good prices for them? There have been stores in my country offering refurbs opening recently but their prices are crap. Maybe I should just order mine there.
>>727507783Aerons are other chairs that are shilled by American youtubers are expensive. European chairs that don't get shilled such as Kinnarps or Steelcase Please are cheap
>>727501283This. I'm in my mid thirties and game from a broken couch; have zero back issues.>>727501347>what core exercises should I do? I haven't exercised in years.I just do squats with free weights and stomach crunches. You don't even need any heavy weights, the important thing is to keep your back straight and put all the load on your legs. Use that same principle when your doing stuff around the house; whenever you need to bend down always squat instead of bending your back.
>>727501283That's a $1000 chair
r8 my ergonomicsthe mattress is memory foam btw
>>727508558Minimalist, as it should be.
>>727501782I like my Aeron, I wouldn't consider it comfortable as such but it sure as shit keeps my posture correct. I miss being able to sit cross legged on my chair though.
>>727501078Refurbished Steelcase Leap, my beloved
>>727507393>People often just buy shit without doing any researchPrice is often too high for what little benefits it will provide in comparison to other investments. You can get a chair that will get you by from any of these furniture stores like Ikea. But what if you have to make sacrifice between the expensive ergo chair or an OLED monitor? most people are going to take another option that improves their gaming and will deal with the short term losses of sub par office chairs. What the hell was the point in buying a chair if what you're looking at is not acceptable? Herman Miller overcharge and that's why shitty chairs will stay in business. Herman Miller's stuff is probably still cheap Chinese crap, just more durable than the Ikea cheap Chinese crap. It's like the slightly less shitty version of crappy Chinese made things.
>>727508797I think the extra cost is the warranty10 years of warranty so you're essentially buying 2 or 3 chairs cause it breaks in a few years
>>727508490>You don't even need any heavy weights, the important thing is to keep your back straight and put all the load on your legs.Platz-pilled
>>727508797Also isn't the Herman Miller design the exact same for the last 30 years? Not like they're charging for any kind of innovation. These guys survive on vibe alone. But that's just my feeling. I can't help but not trust anything herman miller. I don't see how any offering is worse.
>>727509223>These guys survive on vibe alone.Yeah and they also survive on marketing alone because remastered Aerons are cheaply made Chinese ones opposed to whatever everyone experienced back in a 90s office.
>>727508558I lived like this for a while, it's alright. Memory foam mattresses are great, is it full memory foam or just a topper?
>>727508797The HM stuff is all quality. The plastic parts are thick and reinforced, the castings are aluminum and even thicker. Seriously, it's night and day compared to the chink shit. Does it cost a grand to make? Of course not, they could sell it for 500 bucks and still make profit.>>727509223It's the same design (not really, the remastered is a cheaper version from what I've seen), because it's a design that works. Why the FUCK would you want a redesign? That was the worst thing they ever did, stick with the old chair that's built like a tank, and if anything breaks, hey, you can get a new part made yesterday that's just as good as the old one. Fuck fixing stuff that isn't broken. They fixed the arm rests and the posture system without redesigning the chair, both of those were just add-ons. They built the remastered differently because they were afraid that too many people were just using their old chairs for too long because they built them too well.
>>727509896fullthis is honestly more cozy than any desk i've had beforebeing able to put the keyboard on my lap and having both my elbows planted just gets rid of all the tension
>>727502840Refurbishments are 100% the way to go. It can be difficult to find one that delivers depending on your area though. I had to find a seller who didn't even really have tracking, it was just a dude who drove it to you in a van
>>727510151I don't blame them for not innovating. Just doubting them that they still have a design that can't be replicated by others for less, hence my feelings of HM overcharging and overrecommended.
>>727510151>Seriously, it's night and day compared to the chink shitThey have a factory in Dongguan China that makes Aeron parts that can be found in any office furniture store under the right circumstances, or rather the more unfortunate bad luck of the draw circumstances that you didn't happen to get their American sourced parts. And from my understanding it's a major distribution centre that is almost bigger than their American factory. So the chances of getting chinkshit is still pretty high.
>>727503080>Planksexercise for the truly unfit
>>727511025Nta but the important thing is to activate your core, which the plank does.
>>727511025>>727511735A one rep max squat is estimated to have the same abdominal wall activation as a 30 second plan, you can build a strong core without ever doing any direct work but it's going to be way less efficient since the big compounds will incur a shitton of fatigue as opposed to something like a plank from which you'll be recovered in like 20 seconds. If you really don't want to do planks or bird dogs or whatever, your best bet is really strict pull ups in a hollow body position
>>727512012you can do the plank anywhere
>>727501078i didn't like the leap v2 at all, i still have it in my basement those stupid armrests are a total meme and the seat pan doesn't tilt back, it just reclines slightly like an airplane seat
>>727501716I want to fuck this chair...
>>727510967When I say chinkshit, I mean the shit they make in that factory after the doors close for the day and they churn out knock-offs with the minimum possible material to get it out the door. The Aeron parts all feel quality, I don't know what their new chairs are like because mine was made in the 90s, but I imagine they're still alright because of the magic of QC. When Chang is in charge, obviously he's going to go "why is this material so thick? It'll probably last 2 years of light use if we make it half as thick, and we can sell twice as many chairs for the same manufacturing cost!".
>>727503071There's a ton of chair specialty resellers on >facebookusually they sell a ton below the MSRP, probably from office closures or somethinggot the one in OP yesterday, still need to find time to adjust it
>>727502761Did you buy your car brand new?
