I completely disagree and would argue that MP took the genre to new heights. Unfortunately, I would argue that the focus has actually shifted away from a hardcore MP experience, and certainly not the other way around. Today, RTS games are easier and more accessible than ever before. Therefore many communities, AoE as a prime example, ask for more sweat because the core gameplay is no longer as complex or sweaty as it once was. CoH being another example.So, most modern RTS games fail to appease their more hardcore audience in favor of trying to appeal to a more casual audience, and it's not working.Meanwhile, RTS games with a great MP experience have stood the test of time and are still being played in large numbers to this day. Therefore, it makes sense for developers to start focusing on their hardcore players instead of the casuals who will leave once their campaign done.Multiplayer is the core of any RTS game , the campaign is just a long tutorial
>>7276272502fags want the single player, but dow1 was all about the multiplayer, and that shit wasnt balanced at all so wth are they doing going on about esports
I thought this was r/unpopularopinion for a moment. Starcraft was the original esport, and many that came after it were chasing that success.Perhaps the monetization of the esport did damage the way the games are made. But while SC2 may not be as popular as it was in its halcyon days, it still has a dedicated following that manages to fund tournaments. (The biggest damage to that scene was the matchfixing scandal, though it took years for the damages from that event to reverberate.As far as single player experience goes... tower defense mobile games probably scratch that itch for the majority of people. Grand strategy games will fill the niche for others.I think the large portion of the overall market for RTS is going to want multiplayer, so they can watch tournaments and enjoy playing an esport that they follow. Just like any other hobby with a professional scene... tennis, golf, poker, etc.Playing the RTS campaign or scrims vs AI is not going to draw a larger audience.
>>727627250>>727627576DOW1fag here and I prefer Singleplayer over Multiplayer just like I did with WC3 (fuck Dototurds)
>>727627250Nobody gives a fuck about multiplayer outside of some skirmish or coop. >but muh discord with 50 active players!Nobody cares. Old rts like empire at war still clock in 1500+players on steam because it's a great single player mod friendly game. Meanwhile pvp focused shit like stormguard? stormgate*(I had to look it up) died because nobody played it.
>>727627756fake dow1fag
>>727627881cant have a single rts thread w/o the sim city faggots pretending theyve played any game for more than 2 hours. the dow1 rerelease is still active btw
>>727627250>Multiplayer is the core of any RTS game , the campaign is just a long tutorialsingle player campaigns establish the strong connection, while MP provides the post-game content.It's why all these "retro revival" series keep flopping, because they only focus on MP.
>>727627250who cares anyways, the game is 100% going to be filled to the brim with niggers as shown in the trailer so my interest is pretty much non existent now. Only interested in Last Stand game mode and will refund if its not fun in the very first hour
>>727627985>Win a multiplayer match as Eldar.>0.6% have this achievementAmazing
suck it up and do 6+ missions per faction, it's not hard, supcom's campaign is tiny
>>727627756same, I played dozens of hours of dow1 each release and never once touched multiplayer except to play against friends which always just turned into smear the queer with the eldar playersorry bruce
>>727628273There's also a post on the forums right now of some poor fuck looking for people to play multiplayer with to get achievements. He culdn't find them in game.
>>727627250All successful RTS games have been developed with a focus on singleplayer (yes, even starcraft). Aiming to make a multiplayer RTS is setting yourself up for failure.Almost everyone will play at least part of the campaign but only about 20% of players will even touch multiplayer and if the campaign is shit then you'll get very few people trickling down to the multiplayer scene.
>>727628708>Guy who doesn't play the games is an expert
>>727627907I lost my DOW1 copy of the first game moving out but I still got my ROC copy>>727628483Yeah the balance in MP really was ugly but it's really hard to balance games with so many differents factions hence I find Singleplayer matches much more cozy and less stressful call me a casual if you want.
