Why is PC game piracy so effortlessly easy in eastern europe?
It's a double edge sword. In exchange for easy piracy, devs refuse to localize any of their languages.
>>727667295Because prices for games these days match up prices in western europe.Back in the day, when I bought CDs, as a kid, that's like 15 years+ ago, prices were lower. It did suck for non soviet era boomers tho, because many games had russian dub, were published by russian companies at the time.>>727667325English is enough.
>>727667530How the fuck are people learning 2 languages?I struggle just to write english at a college level.
>>727667624By browsing english internet and also learning it since second grade.
>>727667624>baby modeyour country is bilingual by default (Nordic countries, Canada, Ukraine etc...)>EZ modekids learn things faster, regular lessons, even easier when you're in environment that speaks that foreign language learned hungarian under a year as 12 year old in that mannerfailed to replicate the same process with german as an adult under a year
>>727667295it's effortlessly easy everywhere
>>727667325Which is quite funny considering Russian is the third most popular language among Steam usersSomehow devs/publishers have no issues translating games to European languages (e.g. German, French, Spanish) yet Russian is a problem for them.They are just losing potential buyers.And don't get me started on retards begging for ukrainian localization on steam forums. I have no idea why some devs are caving in considering it's less than 1% pof the market.
>>727667295I think gaming companies should destroy communism. Democratic countries can't do it. But gaming companies might have a chance.
>>727669540Sup Ivan?
>>727667295Lack of distribution/localization so gamers have to do it themselves
>>727669680Not much.
>>727669819What is the least woke country for an American to move to?Russia isn't an option Putin would send me to the meat grinder like that one guy
>>727667295>Why is PC game piracy so effortlessly easy in eastern europe?It's not "easier", it's just more prevalent because we're poorer. It's the same reason as to why it's "easier" to find whores from our countries.
PoorBut not retarded like brownsGovernment doesn’t care
>>727669920Unironically Poland, it's less woke than Russia. But we'll probably invade them next so uh, probably rural Australia?
>>727670054>It's not "easier", it's just more prevalent because we're poorer. It's the same reason as to why it's "easier" to find whores from our countries.Isn't Steam popular in Eastern Euro?
>>727669540Good, fuck ziggers, Russian localization should be banned on steam all together and Russian language banned
>>727670132>Isn't Steam popular in Eastern Euro?Only because it can be used to gamble and launder money.
>>727670132Because they can steal money via steam. For example new scam schemes around stealing unusuals in TF2 was discovered, as you could have guessed all scammers are from Russia
>>727669920No idea mate. Try Kazakhstan or something.>Putin would send me to the meat grinder like that one guyHaven't heard of that one.What definitely does happen is FSB (federal security service) being on high alert due to current situation. We don't get a lot of western tourists at the moment, so they may be a bit suspicious of you. I've heard some foreigners being questioned when entering the country. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you're not a complete retard though.
>>727667624lmao low iq subhuman
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>>727670483Well, not much I can say except that fucking sucks.You shouldn't be sent to service if you're a citizen of another country, that's not how this works.
>>727670667Not fair in your western framework of whats right. But in a thoroughly corrupt shithole lead by small elite through violent coercion? There's no issue of morality. Those without power dont get to make demands. Tools and servants dont get to decide what they do.
>>727670132>Isn't Steam popular in Eastern Euro?I am from Eastern Europe and i use GOG(GOG has all the games i love). It is Russians that go to Steam.
>>727667624Most intelligent American
>>727670483>joined military during ongoing major conflictlike what the fuck he thought would happen?
>>727670667>You shouldn't be sent to service if you're a citizen of another country,He's an immigrant. He's not a citizen from another country. So far Russia has also only mobilized reservists, so he literally signed up for this.
>>727670667>that's not how this worksThat is exactly how it works in Russia. They got a bunch of Indians on contracts to work in a ''millitary factory'' and instead shipped them to the front lines since their contract was with the millitary so they were elligeble for service. >>727667295Piracy is easy everywhere. In the west people simply don't have to pirate since for them videogames are cheap. Back when i started working as a teen i would have to spend 1/4th of my salary if i wanted to buy a videogame.
>>727670104poland is woke unfortunately
>>727671749That's because you can't use GOG anymore in Russia, unlike Steam. Of course Russians would go to a platform that they're actually able to use.
Can't wait for this gay ass fucking war to end so we can move past the RUSSIA BAD shitposting, it's gotten old and I'm not even russian
>>727669540>third most popular language among Steam usersIn terms of pure account numbers, not income>be zigshit>create account for free dota2 and cs2>get VACed>create account for dota2 and cs2
>>727669920singapore
>>727672219The RUSSIA BAD talk will continue for as long as it conveniently deflects from the corruption of America and their allies.
>>727672219Maybe russia should get good first and not a woke pozzed shithole hating it's own citizens?And i'm even russian
>>727672216>That's because you can't use GOG anymore in RussiaWhy not
>>727672376Russia and America are both bad. China is also bad. Welcome to reality.
>>727672467Because Russia invaded Ukraine and GOG decided to stop their services in Russia. Steam on the other hand cares only about money so they will sell to anyone.
>>727667624kek found the EFL subhuman
>>727669920There are no White countries that aren't antiwhite to some degree or another.
>>727672219>we can move past the RUSSIA BAD shitpostingBut Russia will remain same shithole that everyone hates unless it ceases to exist(good ending)
>>727667295>Why is PC game piracy so effortlessly easy in eastern europe?Didn't the government just allow it and go more hands off with digital piracy.https://cybermaterial.com/russian-ministry-considers-legalizing-piracy/
>>727669540Most of them just play CS and Dota aka free games. Russians are piss poor.
>>727667624Becoming proficient in a language is a tall order. It comes with repeated use and a desire to improve. At some point it almost turns into another 1st language (not completely, you still lack shit like nursery rhymes, historical and cultural background, experience with systems like healthcare and the schooling system, etc.) and end up referring to grammars and the like, which is the most tedious part.jap is brutal in this regard since resources hardly teach you how and when to use the expressions you learn. e.g. kara ni wa vs ijou wa vs ue wa. all 3 are more or less the same yet there are hardly any comparisons between them. meanwhile you look at the difference between get and to be for passive voice and you can trivially find that shit.
>>727672216>>727672539
>>727674369Source for this stat: my ass
>>727676247> Paylab data (Dec 2024) suggests a median around 66,000 RUB across ages>median wage is 859.44 USD/month before taxesyou think Russians have money to play real games?
>>727676391Da. Games are way cheaper here. Also 66k is not livable, people get paid, way, way more here in Moscow.
>>727676027Now try to actually buy any game there, they stop you at the checkout
>>727676520>here in Moscow.do Russians realize that median Russian does not live in Moscow and lives in destitute poverty?
>>727676543You're right. Seems to be impossible. Their loss, not like we wouldn't be able to get those games somewhere else. Literally all downsides and no benefits for them.>>727676731No.
>>727667295Because the west cut Russia off, which pretty much legalized piracy of western media in Russia.
>>727676760>Their loss, not like we wouldn't be able to get those games somewhere else. Literally all downsides and no benefits for them.Some people just really, really hate Russians and don't give a shit if they lose money not dealing with Russians. I for example donate on FPV drones
>>727677047The butthurt belt.
>>727677101>butthurtyet the only ones seem butthurt are Russians
>>727677216You admitted a post above that you something that hurts you economically with no benefit other than to spite another group who doesn't even know about your existence. If this is not butthurt, nothing is.
>>727677047>I for example donate on FPV dronesDo you also donate to grow more Ukrainians to actually operate those drones?
>>727667295Back in the 90s early 2000s, piracy was the only way for us post-soviet niggers to enjoy foreign media. A whole generation grew up knowing how to pirate shit and willing to share it online. And it covered a lot of different groups, from weebs and gooners to professional engineers and IT developers.It's slowly dying out, though. I see young people who don't know how to pirate more and more often.
>>727677582False. We had whole marketplaces with diskettes and then disks of everything from the west; even before PCs were a thing, there were cassettes with Spectrum games. People were buying pirated games before the Internet became available.
>>727677280People disagree with Russia and don't want to take their money, that's no butthurt. A owner of a bar is not "butthurt" when they ban a drunktard from drinking in his bar.> who doesn't even know about your existenceRussia sure writes a lot of speeches and articles about country they don't know existence of
>>727677773Both you and GOG are doing things that make no sense economically for no benefit, just out of spite. I call that butthurt.Booting a misbehaving person from a bar makes a lot of sense because he disrupts the experience for other patrons. If you're just making this argument to be contrarian, okay, but if you genuinely believe the comparison is valid, I'm sorry, anon, you might be retarded.>speeches by mediatry looking at your own sometimes
>>727667624By studying it duh, you won't learn shit by just vibing
>>727677047I donate to Ukraine every chance i get. I buy all my videogames on GOG. Russians chose to be subhuman. They can stay on Steam and be the multiplayer cancer they've always been.
>>727677582More like the prevalence of Denuvo and always online GaaS bullshit made piracy far less attractive.
>>727677047> I for example donate on FPV drones>donate onHow are the trenches treating you, Mykola?
>>727677981>Booting a misbehaving person from a bar makes a lot of sense because he disrupts the experience for other patronsRussia disrupts the experience of other European countries. >Both you and GOG are doing things that make no sense economically for no benefit, just out of spiteI actively contribute to solving that problem, it makes economical sense, while GOG just doesn't want to deal with Russians and all other users rejoiced over their decision to do so>try looking at your own sometimesI'm not the one who said >who doesn't even know about your existencewe know about Russia's existence and don't like that it exists
>>727678283>there are no Russians on GOG>all Russians are on SteamWait, is GOG the promised land?
>>727678398>>Russia disrupts the experience of other European countries.And you are not booing anyone out of anywhere by forbidding GOG sales to Russian accounts.>I actively contribute to solving that problemYou actively contribute in a minuscule way to killing more Ukrainians and Russians. That's all.>I'm not the one who saidYou are paying to have more Russian conscript killed, who are not there by their own will and do not necessarily share the sentiment of the press that is entirely owned by the state.
>>727678509>who are not there by their own willThat is simply a lie. If they don't want this they can take down Putin or attack their recruiting officers. We saw it happen in Russia more than a couple of times. Other Russians joined Russian partisans that sabotage Putin's regime. There is always a choice. If you are on the front lines, you chose to be there.
>>727678648>if you don't want to fight you gotta fight!anon...
>>727667295>WhyI like thread like those. You can be sure you have a moron at the helm.
>>727678678There is also the option for suicide. Or if you were smart and had money you could've been one of the 200 000+ Russians who escaped before Putin started conscripting.
>>727678509>And you are not booing anyone out of anywhere by forbidding GOG sales to Russian accounts.But GOG does show that it doesn't want blood money from Russians, I'm sure GOG also actively gathered money or donated to cause, so no, GOG is solving the problem too>You actively contribute in a minuscule wayof course, I'm but single individual so I can contribute is in minuscule way, if my contribution resulted even in death of single Russian, doesn't that just mean if enough people pitched in to buy drones we could kill every single Russian soldier?>You are paying to have more Russian conscript killedcorrect> who are not there by their own willnone cares why they are there, but they are so they will be killed, very simple math, you cross border illegally = you die
>>727678781The reason for complying when you are conscripted is self preservation. It's certain death right now vs possibility of survival. I already told you I think you are retarded, and that's pretty much all there is. I have no other comments and will not reply to your other posts.
>>727678974Being in Putin's army is certain death, after getting raped by the pidors Putin released to fill the ranks that is. Don't Russians know what is happening in their own army? We only get knews from captured Russian soldiers or from drone footage but the Russian army is hell. Faggot infested hell to be precise.
>>727679380great analysis by a butthurt retard
>>727679471If you don't trust me maybe you should see some of the leaks by Chinese mercenaries about the Russian military.
>>727679571Are you autistic? Being unable to see the world from another's standpoint is the distinguishing feature.
>>727672376>HURRRDUUUR AMERICUHHHHHH AMERIICUANNNNS BAD ABD BAAAAD ANERICANNNNSSS DUUUUUUR IMA WEEETAWWWD AMERICANNSN LUUUUUUL III HATE AMERICAAAAAA DUUUUURRRRRR
>>727667624I don't get why they call it reading at college level. It makes it sound more lofty than it is. What it actually means is "kid in middle school who willingly reads books".
>>727667530>English is enoughYou've never met a French person. Some don't want to play games because there's no French audio dubbing. Yes, I'm talking about dubbing, not subtitles.
>>727678509>>727677981>>727677280>youre butthurt>we don’t even know who you are>if you give money you’re akhually killed Ukrainians>Russian soldiers are innocent labubus who don’t want to even be there!Literal Russian shill
Piracy is effortlessly easy in Northern Europe, too
>>727679920And there is no point for it since you can just buy the game. If i was getting Wester Europe wages i'd be buying way more videogames. Now i have to wait for the GOG winter sale to buy the games i want.
>>727677280it's pointless to argue with them because they were trained to hate Russians since they were born. they're also massive hypocrites with Russians in their friends list
>>727680481>we dislike you because you are horrible people and your government is murderous regime>heh, you were trained to hate us
>>727680481>the Russia screams in pain as he strikes youWorst Steam people to have in your multiplayer games too.
>>727667295In Russia it's mostly because internet providers don't give a shit if you're pirating. Though it did decrease a bit when Steam became popular, but now after they banned purchasing from russian IPs the only people who use it here are extreme gabencucked retards, because even if you manage to get a turkish or some other account you'd have to deal with regional pricing, and right now any AAA title ends up costing you something around a week's worth of wages, while with piracy you can push like two buttons and have it for free, and with faster download speed most likely
>>727667295Because a ton of games simply didn't release in the former soviet union.
>>727667624>I struggle just to write englishNigga English is easy as fuck.t. ETL ex-A1 English Lit student
>>727667295with 300 usd salary and 150usd rent and 50-100usd food they can't buy 70usd games
>>727667624>be European>more specifically a flavor of non-Russkie Slav>learn English out of necessity of the modern world>start learning Russian>the biggest hurdle is learning vodka runes>language group similarities give you a head start in everything else
>>727682140>vodka runesThose are not even their runes LOL. I learned this on /int/. The Russian alphabet is actually Bulgarian!
>>727682258ye ik, and every language using it uses different runes with different meanings.
>>727667624how about you put down your gooning and shitposting addictions and invest your time in something useful you fucking retard
It's literally fucking over for yurop. Murrican elites behind the current government decided they want the world's center of liberalism partitioned and raped into submission *right now* (they could've waited some 50-100 years until muslim migrants did the job for them, but seems like they don't want to wait that long). EU might've had a chance defending itself against Russia+China if they miraculously got their shit together, but absolutely not with USA also against them.The entire former eastern bloc is coming back to Russia. Millions with overt anti-Russian sentiment will be executed right away, tens of millions more will be deported to reconstructed Gulag system and put to slave labor until they die. The rest will slave away in totalitarian poorfag shitholes while Russia imports Indians and other asians to replace them.Dunno what USA will do to western europe, but it won't be pleasasnt. They'll definitely dismantle their welfare, healthcare and education systems and force their populations to wagecuck in China-tier worker conditions. Probably won't kill anyone (who isn't asking for it) since it's not their style, though.
>>727683878meds
>>727669540How many of those Russians only play "spacewar" lol
>>727667325I'm pretty sure they pirate games because the devs don't localize them, they do their own localization for pirated copies.
>>727673091Europeans are so buckbroken. Biden bombed your nordstream and your energy costs are rocketing because your corrupt governments don't want cheap energy. But sure, muh Russia.
>>727684359>muh RussiaYes, Russians are cunts who can't be trusted. So are Americans but at least they're not actively waging war against Europe.
>>727684359>your energy costs are rocketingCan you tell me how much we paid for gas before war and how much we pay right now?
>>727667624I grew up in serbia and for some reason in the 2000s our cable provider added british cartoon network as one of the channels. I watched that shit for years and learned english because of it.
>>727685268What up shitlord
>>727685268>oh no our sanctions cut off Russian gas and hiked my prices how could this have happened
>>727670174back to the trenches hohol
>>727686320>down syndrome awareness ribbon in bottom rightWhy?
>>727684579>waging war against Europeinb4 "Europe" remembers that a huge chunk of Europe is accupied by Russians and that they are literally waging war against "Europe" by squatting on "Europe"'s land and resources. all of the pain "Europe" experiencing since the Russian invasion is self inflicted and, btw, caused by hostile actions against Russia in Ukraine. any non retard understands this, just like the civil war in Syria, the Georgian war and the Armenian war were the result of foreign politics of the benevolent West. now Syria is ruled by literal terrorists, Georgia isn't ridiculed for starting the war, Azerbaijan isn't sanctioned for taking land from the Armenians and Israel slaughtered 10.000 civilians like it's nothing. fuck you and your retarded, underdeveloped brain
>>727667295because when video games were first introduced to Eastern Europe, everyone was too dirt poor to afford even a single game.the minimum salary in late 90s/early 00s Romania for instance was about $100/month worth.but, if you could scrape together enough cash to get yourself a PC, you could then buy bootleg PC games for a pittance on the black market. so only rich kids had access to consoles and their games. the rest of us were PC-exclusive.then in the mid 2000s everyone started getting internet access and the black market died out in favor of P2P file transfer, and shortly afterwards torrents. I've been using the same tracker since 2008.nowadays games are a lot more affordable (minimum salary is $600/month worth) and there are also F2P games, so pirates aren't 98% of gamers anymore, but those of us who grew up pirating still do it even when we can afford games. I only buy games I really like after I've played them a while.
>>727689926>nowadays games are a lot more affordablenot really as rent and grocery prices have gone up a lotthe eu uses eastern europe just as a cheap outsourcing place so real wages havent really grown just everything inflated
>>727686320thanks god we're not poor and that hike is barely noticeable
>>727689350Settle down Ivan.
>>727689350can someone translate this incoherent rambling into human speech?
>>727670132cant find anything with the tag, sauce pls.
>>727667295www.xyz.zx > search the name > enter > click magnet link > click Okay > wait a bit. I cannot even fathom taking more than 2-3 clicks to download a game. 10-20 mins at the most for the biggest complete packs out there.
>>727689350>inb4 "Europe" remembers that a huge chunk of Europe is accupied by Russians and that they are literally waging war against "Europe" by squatting on "Europe"'s land and resourcesRussia is waging war against Europe by literally waging war against European countries, you know, the part where Russian invaded a country and started killing people?
>>727691686then why aren't you on the frontline defending your home? chop chop
>>727693190>we're not waging war against Europe"why are you persecuting us so much">why aren't you on the frontline defending your home? chop chop"xaxaxaxa, we were doing for whole time, what are you going to do about it)))))"Russian brain has only two modes
>>727694039you know exactly that "waging war against Europe" is complete bullshit. this is why you aren't threatened and neither is your government, or else you would've been dragged to frontline long ago. I can only imagine why you and the likes of you keep this bullshit going
>>727694635Is Russia currently in process of waging war against European country, yes or no?
>>727678974>The reason for complying when you are conscripted is self preservation.Oh, fuck off you shill. If all those retards really cared about self-preservation, they wouldn't comly with orders and just killed their superiors. The facts is they are all retarded useless trash with like 70iq. The only reason most of them don't desert or straight up kill the commanding officers is greed. They get payed a shittonn to slaughter ukranians. Nobody in the russian army is there against their will. Fuck off with that nonsense and go back to shilling on 2ch you fucking mongoloid.
>>727695029yeah sure. where were you when Georgia waged war against a European country, or when Azerbaijan annexed land after taking it from a European country?
>>727695316> Georgia waged war against a European countryGeorgia never waged war against any European country> Azerbaijan annexed land after taking it from a European country?Azerbaijan returned land that was always considered part of Azerbaijan
>>727667295Third world, but has a veneer of white.
>>727695725>Georgia never waged war against any European countryRussia is a European country. thant's common knowledge>Azerbaijan returned land that was always considered part of Azerbaijanah, so just like Russia?
>>727667295because they value games for their correct pricing 0$ unless it's good.
>>727695918> Russia is a European countryAHAHAHAHAHA> ah, so just like Russia? Russia has agreed in 1991 for border with Ukraine and those parts Russia occupies were part were parts of Ukraine even during Soviet times. I can find you video of Putin saying that Crimea is Ukraine
>>727695094OK but that 70IQ useless subhuman trash is still winning territory against you so idk what all this online bitching is about. You're literally losing a war and all you can do it bitch and moan on a mongolian shadowpuppetry forum, while all your women get prostituted out by richer Westerners.
>>727696269>AHAHAHAHAHAanything else, retard?>Russia has agreed...doesn't matter. there were many agreements. one of those was that the West doesn't try to pressure Ukraine financially
>>727696269>>727697019As an actual White person I always love reading these spats between Ukrainians and Russians. You're both subhuman non-Whites that are gleefully killing yourselves over barren land, meanwhile we're negotiating for your mineral rights and fucking your women. Keep of the good fight, IVANS! Keep fighting till the last man drops, both of you!
>>727667934>kids learn things faster, regular lessons, even easier when you're in environment that speaks that foreign languageon that note this was always interesting to me. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3848041/Perfect pitch is something you have to learn as a child too, I wonder if this would work on language learning.Though the only thing I ever found is that children exposed to the drug in the womb had lower IQ.
>>7276676249 times out of 10, bilingual just means someone knows shitty local language nobody outside of their country uses plus English. English natives don't have near the incentive to learn more languages.
>>727697239sorry to disappoint you, but I'm German
>>727697425Sorry for mistakenly referring to you as a slav, carry on
>>727696567>You're literally losing a warJokes on you, retard i'm (or rather my country is) winning the war. The war just doesn't have any point and in actuality I, as a Russian citizen, lost economically. I couldn't give less of a shit about ukranians or bombass or some other shit that our senile president has in his head.
>>727697019>anything else, retard?neither you nor Turkey are European, it was always like this and will remain so>doesn't matter.we know that Russia word is worth less than toilet paper, but you don't get cry how "But Azeri took back Karabach so we can invade and take over Ukrainian territory" when territory is not your and you're just taking land because you want to>West doesn't try to pressure Ukraine financiallyThe only country that I remember pressuring Ukraine financially was Russia
>>727697239>actual White personAre you? "White person" is mutt speak. Europeans call themselves by their nations ergo if you are "actual white person" you aren't European. Reminder that colors were always slurs - yellow for asians, black for african, if you willingly accept "white" you are dirt
>>727697239>You're both subhuman non-Whites that are gleefully killing yourselves over barren landI dunno, anon. The "actual whites" seem to be a minority in their own countries these days. I'm willing to bet that Russia has a better chance of still being "white" in a 100 years. At least if the kikes dont get to it first lmao
>>727667325Piracy is an excuse, just as it was for not making PC ports in the 2000s (real reason was dev expenses and exploitation of exclusivity). The real reason is because westerners, especially Europeans, have literal centuries of bad blood with the Russians.Not all of them are bad, but their ways are strange to firsties.
>>727667295>eastern europeRussia is not europe. Its asia. And the reason its easy to pirate is that they dont give a fuck about copyright. Praise kleptocracy.
>>727667295because sanctions
>>727669630You'd have to purge the wokies in them first. That shit they believe in is basically neo-Communism.
>>727670483GG NO RE, what a stupid fuck.
>>727667295its kind of crazy how much effort scenefags put into cracking every video game under the sunand they basically get nothing for it, barely any reckognizion because zoomers dont know warez culture
>>727698863If I have to pretend snowniggers are Europeans, then Russians can be Europeans too.
>>727667624I had an english teacher from hell that taught us to write college level essays in my freshman year of highschool and said it would save our asses much later.She was write I can write 5k words in my sleep