>>727679730
i would presume he is also a philanthropist who helps fund programs and construction projects for gotham as bruce wayne

Bruce wayne, like his parents, actively uses his money to support charities, open up new job opportunities and partake in political activism. He also became batman because Gotham was so corrupt that the police was pretty much just another gang in that rotten city and criminals needed something to actually fear.

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>I am going to dress up as a bat and beat up mentally ill criminals
>While I agree that the systems in place have failed us, will vigilante justice really help lower the crime rate?
>Lower the what now?

>>727679730
Bruce Wayne donates shitloads of money to charity and churches and programs.
Frankly, though, it feels like he does it to keep the heat off of himself and draw less attention. He is rich, but donates money so people don't scrutinize him so hard. I don't think he cares too much about charity because he is mentally fucked up and wants to personally enact justice.

>the ultra rich is the good guy
lol, lmao even

>batman haters be like "Commisioner Gordon should arrest Bane"

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>>727679730

A nigga gotta let out some steam somehow.

>>727679730
Money doesn't fix genetics.

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>>727679730
>how does superman shoot lasers out of his eyes
>how does wonder woman always block bullets with her wrists
>how does batman always dodge bullets
You're looking too closely to capeslop, stop doing that with children's entertainment.

>>727679893
Charity is a Jewish scam, not something to be proud of, retard.

>>727679730
>giving lazy retards money is..... LE GOOD
>giving incompetent bureaucrats money is..... LE GOOD

>>727679928
he dieded?

>>727680113
it literally is tho

>>727679730
wow it sounds really stupid if you make shit up and leave shit out

>>727679730
Xhitter meme

>>727679730
He isn't doing it to stop crime, dumbass

>>727680007
Not when you run the charities yourself and can try to make sure they help people. The point though is that Batman really doesn't care about that shit and mostly does it to keep up appearances. That is a legitimate part of his character, that all of the good he does as Bruce Wayne is cynical and at the end of the day he just wants to hurt people and takes it out on criminals.

>>727679804
He does, unfortunately gotham is hopelessly corrupt plus the city is built on cursed ground and above a gateway to hell

>>727680297
Lmao ok jew

>communist with a child's understanding of economics thinks throwing money at the problem will fix it
Yeah, worked great in Ethiopia and Haiti, right?

>>727679730
the alternative is to enslave them with pleasure, which he might not be capable of doing

>>727680589
>batman shoved an electrode up my ass and made me cum :(

>>727679730
He should just kill the irredeemable criminals.

>>727679730
The batman IP has been so raped that everyone is confused and losing their mind over dumb capeshit.
Original Batman made sense because he was just wealthy and the city wasn't the insane crime ridden shithole it is now.
In the first comics he was a ''socialite'' and it was never stated how rich he was. Years later he was ''wealthy'' with his dad leaving him good amount of money. Then years later he was a millionaire. Batman didn't become a billionaire for like 40 years of these shitty comics running.

Originally you had a rich guy who beats up criminals. The crime rate was low enough that one vigilante could stop the top criminals.
Capeflation turned Batman into a billionaire, probably a trillionaire at this point, and turned Gotham into the worst shithole on earth where the worst and most powerful villains live. Gotham is such a shithole I don't think non-criminals even live there.
They inflated everything while keeping the core the same. No matter how rich Batman gets and how powerful the villains become, he will be just a guy punching them.

Read any pre 1970 Batman comic and he literally does the opposite
His first villain is a fucking CEO

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>>727679730
>putting faith in a lunatic that dresses up as a bat and beats up criminals for lulz

>>727681134
Joker lost and got raped

>>727679730
He does, in fact had you played the game you posted about you'd see multiple references of Bruce Wayne contributing very heavily to Arkham Asylum

>>727681134
This is the new lore. Started with Tim Burton, then Killing Joke, then the Nolan trilogy and the Arkham games.
Batman is canonically a very confused crazy person. It's no longer just some rich guy who stops crime. Batman is a crazy person with bizarre motivations and the closest thing to a friend he has is the Joker.

>>727680427
Honestly just nuke that shithole and be done with it.

If Batman is so smart then why doesn't he realize that the authors writing his comics are preventing him from killing the Joker. IIRC there's a character called Animal Man in the Justice League who does fourth wall fuckery., so Batman should be able to deduce that he's in a comic and his writers are retarded.

>>727679730
I also want to point out Batman isn't mentally well himself, this isn't touched at all in Arkham games so I'll point out some scenes from Dark Knight Returns that touches it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ICQyp8RCUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kB_W_g_4U

Some people only respect force and no amount of programs, good vibes or opportunities will change them and other are so far gone they cannot ever change.
Batman exists for those people.

Why is batman a magnet for these retarded hypotheticals
>why he no kill joker he just as bad
>who change batmobile wheels
>if he good guy why he break that guy's arm
Because he's a comic book superhero, nobody gives a fuck when it's ironman or whatever

>>727681397
Batman Derangement Syndrome

The bigger question is why Gotham City isn't put under martial law

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>>727681542
Why didn't Bald Man do it?

Reality is most criminals really are too stupid to be reformed and the only thing they will ever understand is the desire to not want to get their face smashed in.

>>727681321
>this isn't touched at all in Arkham games
I mean, it kinda is. Batman is unambiguously depicted as a massive dysfunctional asshole in all games except for Asylum. To be fair, he is dying of brain cancer in both City and Knight, but still. He's one of the most unhinged, unstable Batmen

>>727681542
Arc where the Nat Guard shows up when?

>>727681023

The worst criminals and super villians flock to Gotham BECAUSE of the god damned Batman. They want to be the one who kills the bat.

Once again, Batman is his own worst enemy.

>rich people can only be the good guys in fairytales
The real take away from comic books.

>>727679730
We've been throwing money at criminals and the homeless for 60 years, it doesn't work. The solution is actually just beating them up.

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>>727679730

The threat of the stick makes the carrot look way more valuable
Amerimutts wouldn't understand because prisons are just legal slave camps in their country

>>727681685
Why does he feel obligated to wear a bat costume and fight criminals is never touched, IIRC the only line about this is in Origins is when Barbara asks him and he says something like "Because I made a promise"
The level of his mental illness or him not even being able to stop aren't actually touched, as far as I remember at least I might be wrong

>Try to fix the city with your wealth
>The rich and powerful steal it from you instead of diverting it to the city who needs it (look at Gotham Renewal Program and the other endless scam charities)
>Police force is bought out by the same rich and powerful
You basically have no other option but to become an outside agent of the system they created to fix it in place. And besides, it's not like you'll fucking stop Joker from bombing the city or Bane terrorizing everyone by throwing money at them. These supervillains would've caused chaos in the city with or without Batman existing (with exception to Joker who's existence is tied to Batman's). He is needed exactly how he is, a violent, capable, and frightening vigilante to keep the city in check. And in the end, he does use his money to fix the city but only through his own personal charities that he has control over to ensure it goes where it needs to instead of being stolen.

>>727679730
>>727679804
>>727679817
>>727679893
It's pretty fucking dumb that he does this for several decades and there's no meaningful change whatsoever

>>727679974
Children's entertainment should be under the most scrutiny. Otherwise you get shitholes like America.

>>727682103
He wiped out the crime families but didn't expect super villains to fill in the vacuum

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You can't kill murderous schizos that keep breaking out because.... YOU JUST CAN'T OK???!

>>727682103
I agree it is dumb, but that is comics for you. At this point Batman has beat up everyone in Gotham at least twice including the old lady from Batman TAS

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Batfags be like
>Arrest this man!

>>727682103
Batman is not one continuous story. It's an IP where you just reuse the same names and aesthetics to milk retards for money. It's insane that autistic freaks don't understand this.
Stories that are supposed to end and are not sequel baiting tend to have change. The Nolan movies end with Batman saving the day and the big threats are gone. The Burton movies end with the villains dead. The Arkham games end with not much changing because they need to get the next game out and people won't be happy if the next game comes out and it's all sunshine and rainbows and the city isn't a dark shithole.

>>727682295
Doomsday is so lame

I think it boils down to the disconnect between what capeshit comics are supposed to be vs what the writers have molded them into because of the fact that they've been running for a fucking century.
At the core batman is about the perfect good man fighting criminals and all that is evil. In that context it makes sense if he's also a billioner who donates to charity and does all this bullshit because we the audience understand it's just an idealized wishful fantasy.

Then they had to turn it all gritty and realistic and melodramatic and "reaaal" while keeping the core of it so now it's just retarded. When they try to do political commentary about the real world in the setting of gotham it makes you think on it as if though it were real but its not.

The third part of it is lack of continuity even in the same universes because of how writers get swapped around constantly.

>Caring about capeshit
>With their endless status quo
Yikes

>>727680427
Why doesn't batman just bless the land and close the gateway to hell? I'm sure he can afford it and with some prep time it would be easy.

>>727679730
God Batman Arkham is so cool lads. Fuck it gonna have to fire up Origins before chrmass

>>727679730
you can't be a moralfag like batman and actually solve anything.
Eventually you'll come to the harsh reality of some evil people needing to be killed. And the fact that the justice system only facilitates criminals, instead of fixing them.

>>727679730
Also the funniest example of this is actually Zsasz. You can excuse other criminals for being supernatural or whatever, Zsasz is the most realistic Arkham villain and according to the marks on his body even in Asylum he has about 200 murders
He'd be executed by cops very, very long time ago if he wasn't a comic book villain

>>727682103
Such is the case with demographic collapse. He's fighting a losing battle

>>727682324
Doomsday is fine, but only as a one-off villain. Kinda like Morlun from Spiderman

>>727682353
>Origins
Based

>>727682103
It's mostly dumb because the thugs and criminals are portrayed as being white. If they were black, it would make sense that it's an impossible problem to solve.

>>727682438
Isn't Doomsday like Lobo in that it's straight up impossible to get rid of him?

>>727682387
Oh, to see a modern batman comic where he finds out the rich villains aren't the only ones being let out and he starts to wonder why he has to keep attacking the same rapists over and over.

Probably the same day when he goes "huh, I sure do have to stop a lot of minorities considering their statistical representation in the city"

>>727682103
>>727682178
are you guys fucking retarded or just trolling

>>727682303
>Batman is not one continuous story. It's an IP where you just reuse the same names and aesthetics to milk retards for money. It's insane that autistic freaks don't understand this.
There are SEVERAL Batman works that have it be a continuous, decades long struggle where nothing actually happens or changes beyond Batman recruiting more young boys to fight for him. He's still fighting the Joker well into his 40s and 50s in these primary continuities.
>b-but that's just how comics are!
Why does it have a NARRATIVE then
>The Nolan movies end with Batman saving the day and the big threats are gone.
Batman really doesn't accomplish anything in the Nolan movies beyond defeating, essentially, the Taliban. He fights one real local antagonist (two if we really want to count Scarecrow, who was in league with Ra's), and that's all we get for Batman actually protecting Gotham from its local threats.

>>727679730
>aside from beating up random street thugs at night
This way is much more fun, I would do the same thing.

>>727682512
I wish comics weren't cucked so we could get a new character in response to Batman like that.

>>727679928
Why the fuck is Batman like this?

>>727682897
Kind of unrelated but you reminded me that Batman DOOM had some black criminals and that Moonman Doom actually uses those black criminals as its sprites
If anyone else wonders this they can check it, that mod's nigger models come from Batman's

>>727680482
Alright so what's your way of helping the poor and disenfranchised that isn't a charity?

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>>727679730
>b..b...but what about social programs
>and... and education
>they dont WANT to commit crime, its structural issues...
>if we just solve inequality and...
>well if the housing prices just went down for once....
No. You chose this. You get the fist.

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>>727682107
America isn't a shithole because a fictional vigilante punched a fictional criminal's teeth in, it's a shithole because of 1965's Hart-Celler Act, the same way europe was destroyed with migration.

>>727679730
Gotham is cursed with occult bullshit to be a god awful place and to subtly prevent most people from moving out.
Despite this, it is somehow only DC's third worst city.

>>727683090
People make choices based on the choices available to them, and in an entirely human made socioeconomic structure, the choices available to most are determined by choices made by those who control Capital and their government lapdogs.

>>727683281
Of course I'm talking about irl where
>>727683254
isn't a factor

>>727682510
Yeah he's immortal and comes back stronger after each "death".

>>727679730
i hate it when retards think batman isnt also just a mentally ill guy with his own set of issues. he is not a fucking mary sue.

>>727683090
Most of Batman's rogues were just normal people who had something bad happen to them and became shunned by society.

>>727683326
>The occult bullshit isn't a factor as to why Batman can't fix Gotham with money.

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>>727682178
That's because Batman is also insane, anon, its that simple, Batman exists because Bruce saw his parents die in front of him, now what does that do to ones psyche? In Bruce's case it embeded a few concepts
First is that killing is bad, because his parents got killed, this comes to a conclusion that as few lives as possible need to be taken AND that Batman will never, EVER kill, this concept is further reinforced by Batmans tussles with Joker, Bane and others, and brings in a further question to Bruce what would he do if he started killing, at what point would HE stop? To some degree he likely acknowledges his own insanity, which is why its best not to risk it
Second is that everyone can be saved, since Bruce couldn't save his parents on account of being a kid, he will try with all his might to save others when he becomes an adult, that includes villains, while some ARE impossible, like Jonkler, there is Harvey who can be helped or convinced to do good, there is Penguin who really is just a mobster, there is Bane who did, in Arkham games anyways, decide to leave it all behind and return home where he killed a lot of narcobarons
You are expecting Batman to act in a 100% rational manner, but that is impossible because none of us do, very few humans do because besides rationale we have our fears, anxieties and habits

Bruce Wayne canonically dumps a small fortune yearly into various rehab programs and paying the psychiatrists at Arkham Asylum...who are coincidentally are also all crazy fucks involved in occultism because of COURSE Bruce Wayne doesn't bother to actually see what his charity is financing. Too busy punching people by moonlight.

>>727683449
Those who are shunned by the village will burn it down to still feel it's warmth

>>727683547
Which is why Bruce should be investing in actual rehabilitation instead of sending them off to that clearly awful Arkham which isn't helping them.

>>727683449
which is why he's the only superhero who puts his villains in a mental hospital

>>727681397
>nobody gives a fuck when it's ironman or whatever
Bad example since Ironman just kills people and is generally an asshole

>>727683669
One of the worst mental hospitals which hasn't helped as single one of them.

>>727683089
Literally just build things up. China isn't giving a single cent to (((NGO))) in Africa. They just come, build an appartment complex or highway or whatever.

>>727682178
>You can't kill murderous schizos that keep breaking out because.... YOU JUST CAN'T OK???!
Why don't you?
I mean, remember that guy who got molested and grew up and drove around to sex offenders houses and shot them? He was celebrated.
So if Batman should morally speaking, as an extralegal vigilante, murder deranged schizoids, why aren't you showing up at wangler homes with a cocked shotgun? Most sex offenders have a high rate of recidivism so they'll likely do it again.
I mean you'd go to prison if you're a brainlet but it's the morally correct thing to do right? So why don't you?

>>727679730
The liberal approach to crime has been tried over and over again and it's never worked

>>727683498
Well in real life billionaires do sporadic acts of philanthropy to the extent necessary to zero out taxes, which creates a very inconsistent supply of funding for chronic ongoing social issues that's also a bit random on where and what kind of help is being thrown out. On the other hand, when faced with an extremely modest (compared to their net worth and annual profit) tax that would provide more consistent funding for something like housing or healthcare services, they usually throw a huge shitfit and go to court and threaten to leave town and bankroll obedient city council/mayoral candidates because the philanthropy was performative and self interested the entire time. At least that's what I've noticed living in a city with extremely wealthy owners of mega corporations living here too.

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>>727683652
He does, this is straight up even shown in Arkham games. This for example is from Medical Facility in Asylum, Bruce funded all of it

>>727683848
Oh yeah and if they own a local or national paper the tax fearmongering dial gets cranked up to 11

>>727683848
Billionaires don't pay tax.
>set your salary to 0
>get a loan with your assets as collateral
>spend money
>get loan to pay loan
>assets as collateral again
>loans aren't counted as income
>no income, no tax
>property tax? I don't actually own this shit, my company does, I'm just leasing it to myself for free

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>>727679730
Capeshit was always retarded because its writen for children.
You were meant to grow out of it after a certain age, instead of trying to make it more mature and "logical" for adults

>>727683783
It's because writers decided to make Batman a psychopath himself who's constantly holding himself back mentally from being a violent killer who will just kill someone for minor violations of law otherwise there's no reason why Batman can't kill some of the truly psychotic members of his rogues gallery and throw the ones who aren't beyond insane in jail.
>>727683870
Well he's barely funding it seeing how it fails to do anything for the people there.

>>727683976
Damn I been doing that but I ain't no billionaire yet.
Take all the money those foolish, foolish, foolish credit card companies will give you and never pay it back, that's all the advice I ever got for anyone. All it does is make it so a number on a screen says you can't buy a house.

>>727683976
This also a factor. Plus the fact that both major parties really just work to help them stay rich and get richer while wearing slightly different colors and performative beliefs to convince the rest of us this isn't the case.

Where the Wayne's family money comes from?

>>727679730
It's just a hobby. A fetishistic one at that.

>>727684121
>Take all the money those foolish, foolish, foolish credit card companies will give you and never pay it back, that's all the advice I ever got for anyone.
You gotta be rich first to pull off the endless loans bullshit. What blows my mind is the system allows for it.

>>727684121
And if they start harassing you just stake one of your credit cards (I call them magic beans) and give Iike 200 dollars to a credit repair company and what they do is start harassing your debtors demanding proof of every transaction individually to the point they're inundated with a mountain of paperwork and their options are to spend more money than you owe to prove you should pay it, or just forgive the debt.

>>727684247
>you gotta be rich to pull off endless loans
Or just live below the poverty line. Then every company wants to loan you money.
I wonder why... nah just a coincidence.

>>727684198
Wayne Industries is primarily a defense contractor, which is how Batman is able to commission his vehicles without anyone raising an eyebrow

>>727682923
Joker derangement syndrome. Batman hates Joker to his core but is also hopeless obsessed with him.

I had a whole Batman fanfiction folder when I was a kid and thought I was gonna be a writer.

Had this whole thing where Batman had multiple personalities and The Dark Knight was fighting for control and the Caped Crusader was Adam West Batman but manipulative and deliberately pushing Robin to fuck Barbara Gordon and Bruce Wayne was just gone, just different versions of Batman fighting for control.
Very edgy.

>>727682178
the comic book distributers look like this and say this.

>>727684403
So he funded his effort to save people by enabling the murder of many many more?

>>727683760
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Foundation_for_Poverty_Alleviation

>>727684118
Okay but like... why isn't it an option for you to go around deleting pedophiles?

>>727681885
heh

>>727684260
financial ninjitsu if true

>>727684393
>You're poor and viable to be owned by the bank via bad economic decisions? Why not have a loan?

>>727684524
I also had Superman dosed with Scarecrow fear toxin watch a Xenomorph bust out of his chest with a little S on its forehead and start slaughtering indiscriminately.

>>727684524
SOUL

>>727684403
Before that.

>>727684710
Alright, this one actually has some layers despite being a little silly, a la "luke skywalker in the cave". Credit where it's due.

>>727684647
Generally once you pull this trick... it works but you fucked you credit score for 8 years, and you probably won't get sent another card from that company, but there's always another.

>>727683783
>Uhmmmm if you think the fictional masked billionaire overman Batman should kill irredeemable psychos you should really frickin put your money where your mouth is my dude

>>727684864
This but unironically

>>727682103
You mean just like in real life?

>>727679730
There is literally no reasonable argument for keeping half of Batman's villain cast alive.
He is responsible for far more deaths by keeping them alive.

>>727684787
Yeah it definitely sounds like you're opting for a certain lifestyle where you also can't have any property anyone could reposess, but the "stealing from credit card companies then making them pay even more to fail to get it back" of it all gets me rock hard.

>>727684939
... and?
You literally keep pedophiles alive every day that you don't use the sex offenders registry as hunting instructions.
Money where your mouth is or shut up.

>>727685035
killing them after they already did it doesn't prevent much. NTA

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>>727683281
>>727683449
>>727683547
Villains are villains because after experiencing suffering they decided everyone else should suffer too. Heroes decide to protect others from that pain.
Shit happens; it's your choice to be an asshole about it or not.

>>727684198
His mother is from some old noble family or shit plus his father was a famous doctor.
Thats it.

>>727680427
He should just take Gotham and push it somehwere else!

>>727685180
This is true to an extent, but we disagree on what solution can be effective after the "hurt people hurt people" cycle kicks in. Incarceration and involuntary treatment don't do great numbers irl.

>>727685035
You are keeping them alive too my man.

>>727680669
aliens do it

>>727684783
Thanks man.
I never thought a story couldn't be silly and have some genuinely good character work. Cause you know, Star Trek exists.

I did some goofy shit. Like Superman would refuse to punch a lady so the way he beat Wonder Woman was by going up to her mouth and blowing hard enough that her lungs expanded into her ribs, breaking them.
It helps to understand my Superman is really autistic because he's literally not human and doesn't have the same emotions but he's trying to act human.
He's the type to read a bumper sticker that says "honk if you love cookies" and lean on the horn because he thinks cookies are delicious, and never again think about it hard enough to realise there's a joke there.
But he knows he's not human, he knows he's more powerful than a human, and he knows how humans depict aliens in media. So he fears himself as the Xenomorph.

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>>727682103
>there's no meaningful change whatsoever
It's often portrayed nowadays that the Gotham police department was far more corrupt when Batman first started out.

One of the first major things Batman does is work with Jim Gordon to make GCPD far less corrupt and get Gordon to the role of Commissioner. That alone was a huge change before you even get into all the countless lives he's saved.

>>727679928
Does he really die? I'm sure some would argue the animated version softens it by changing that, if so. But it made a whole lot more sense.

>>727679928
>copypasting the same panel 3 times
You can't tell me this was intentional for some artistic meaning and not sheer lazyness.

>>727679730
>>727679804
>>727679817
Like all billionaires' "charities" he pour money in the wrong place to the wrong people and never really care to see if the charity itself actually improve the lives of those receiving it. You don't give food and free money to druggies, you fucking force them to rehab.

>>727685485
These books aren't made for art. They're made to sell comic books.

>>727679928
nu-batman is truly horrendous

>>727680427
Isn't there an eldritch monster under the city too? They just need to nuke the city from orbit at this point.

>>727685281
we need temporary enslavement instead of just letting them be in prison

>>727679928
This is why I just can't side with him in Injustice. The guy is a hypocrite with too much money and paranoid to boot. Supes got it right that he was mad at him for killing Joker.

>>727685637
Can't nuke from orbit.
Putting nukes in orbit violates some kind of treaty.

>>727685281
Incarceration works pretty great, we're just used to it. It's the waterline. We've seen what happens when judges simply refuse to jail people and they go out and do tomorrow what they would've at least had to wait a few years in prison to do otherwise.

>>727679730
He's Russian

>>727679730
it was his cringe coping mechanism, he wasn't solving anything

>>727682332
>Then they had to turn it all gritty and realistic and melodramatic
I'm against this kind of purism. Keeping a character alive indefinitely means they'll have to go through drastic cycles.
Real and gritty Batman was cool because he showed that the rot is more than skin deep. The Batman and Joker rivalry was pretty cool through the '90s, and Nolan made good use of it, albeit for his own Nolan Metaphysics canon.

>>727679730
Why doesn't he just hire thugs to beat up other thugs, management sim style

>>727679730
Batman makes so much sense now when you realized he was invented by a jew. Same for Superman and Spiderman.

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>>727683760
Yeah, and China's been experiencing what the Europeans went through a century ago when they tried it. Working with the Africans just sucks. Subjugating the Africans just sucks. Africa just fucking sucks.

Why doesn't Man just lobotomize the criminals so he doesn't break the no kill rule? Is he stupid?

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>If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same

>>727681747
The Batman tried to make this the point of the film, with the younger inexperienced Batman's obsession with revenge over justice creating "The Riddler", but the execution was so bad, with so many producers with their own agendas all sticking their fingers in the pie, that it just came across as laughably stupid.
Arkham City and Arkham Knight do it a lot bettter by having villains show up in Gotham from other cities or overseas during random side quests. Batman is constantly drawing moths to his own flame and it's usually up to him to deal with the messes they create, even if they're trying to help.

>>727685180
Well Joker originally was just a mob goon, he's not like Two-Face where he's a lawyer suffering from a split personality disorder that had a mental breakdown and allowed the dark, violent personality take over when he got permanently scarred and disfigured across one side of his body after an attack by the mob he was going after. Why Bruce never had his body repaired to help with his rehabilitation is beyond me. I guess "can't violate their personal rights" but we're dealing with people who are extremely mental mostly brought about by chemicals permanently altering their brain chemistry making them highly unreasonable. To me you're doing more harm to them by allowing them to continue as they are. This should be an easy thing to do considering the number of characters that have the ability to do such things. Like for Two-Face again, there's no reason why they don't get some character with mental powers to pull Harvey to the "front" of his mind and "lock" Two-Face away or remove him from his mind altogether.

>>727686742
So you're saying don't stop at just killing one killer. Wise advice, Batman. Only punishing the man who wronged you is merely revenge. Going beyond and punishing those who commit wrongs to others as well is justice.

>>727679730
You don't understand. He's the most intelligent man on the planet so if that is the resolution he came up with, it is logically the only solution possible.

>>727684198
>Where the Wayne's family money comes from?
It's old money. It started from the first Wayne ancestor who's a fur trapper. With that money the descendants built and bought railways. Then the modern era they branch into medical industry and technology and now it's all used to fund Batman and Justice League.

>>727686268
Batman inc.

>>727679928
Comics? More like Shitmics

>>727679730
The Suicide Squad game was fucking garbage, but the Harley Quinn speech to Batman was completely correct. It just shouldn't have come from Harley, since it was hypocritical.

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>>727686956
They've played with the idea of fixing Two-Face before.
>Like for Two-Face again, there's no reason why they don't get some character with mental powers to pull Harvey to the "front" of his mind and "lock" Two-Face away or remove him from his mind altogether.
While they probably could really accomplish this in-universe, it's going to be unsatisfying as a general approach since you're basically just rounding up criminals to magic away their mental illnesses and transform them into upstanding citizens.

>>727686742
>Batman has all the opportunity to kill the Joker
>"If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same"
So does Batman hate cops who shoot murderers or someone about to commit murder? What if he saw the Joker get shot to death by cops? Would he go down and tell them how wrong they are for not finding a non-lethal way to stop him because "he's a victim of chemicals permanently altering his brain into being a clown theme psychopath?"

>>727682103
Comics happen in suspended animation. Time doesn’t really flow.

>>727687552
Well that's the problem when you fill up your universe with characters that can solve every single scientific, medical and environmental issue currently on Earth. Geopolitical and social problems would be the only things they can't really solve unless they become global dictators

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>>727679730
Part of the problem is Gotham's politicians and some of the police department are on the mob's payroll.

>>727687606
Most of the time, it's supposed to be a self-imposed personal rule to prevent himself from gradually becoming indifferent to human life and going too far. He might be miffed by someone else using lethal force, since he also doesn't want to give himself some loophole of killing people via inaction, but he couldn't be too judgmental about someone acting in self-defense, for example.
However some Batman writers take it to the extreme where Batman will be wildly sanctimonious about any use of lethal force and go to ridiculous lengths to prevent a villain from being killed. It's those moments that poison the well.
Batman Beyond has a more measured approach as I recall. There's a lot more villain deaths because Terry simply isn't as twisted up about the issue as Bruce.

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>>727679730
Lorewise, Gotham is legit cursed by a eldritch being. It explains why all these weird and awful stuff happens there

>>727679928
Shameless

>>727679730
Can't commit crimes if they can't get out of the hospital bed.

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>>727679928
I hate this "Batman doesn't kill" BS even though he did early on, with guns even. If anyone wants a Batman video game that has this, I recommend the Game Boy title based on Tim Burton's film, you literally just shoot people.

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>>727679730
Are we still doing this Leftist meme of pretending crime can be solved by giving niggers money, decriminalizing all crime, and letting endless drugs flood our streets?

>>727681720
It happens in the Dark Knight

>>727681542
Even the federal government gave up on Gotham

>>727690012
>decriminalizing all crime,
You joke but this is literally how they think. Dont report crime and you can fudge the numbers and say your city is the safest city ever and Leftist policies are working. The MSM can push out endless articles claiming
>New Study shows letting arsonists roam free actually lowers crime!
Ignore the rampant homelessness in LA and white women getting stabbed on trains. Those are chud outliers because Joy Reid said so.

Criminal behavior is tied to low IQ. Low IQ correlates with low empathy, because empathy is an exercise in abstration, which is harder to do when you're dumb. When people have low empathy, you have to enforce strict consequences for bad behavior, because that's the only way to teach them not to do things. Like how the brits used to hang indians that would throw widows onto funeral pyres.

>>727680427
>plus the city is built on cursed ground and above a gateway to hell
is there anything that DOESN'T exist in this shitty setting? hack writers always think adding more crap to your world = more interesting.

>>727682295
That's a Superman villain tho

wasn't the entire point that the criminals are so insane conventional means won't stop them from crashing into your house and murder hobo your family.

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>>727682178
For you

>>727679730
He is obviously just as crazy as everyone else in gotham. Why he not just whack the joker immediately, after his second escape? Joker must have killed tens of thousands in his criminal career by now, so why does everyone just constantly forgive him for it? They all treat him with kids' gloves and just lock him in a cell, somewhere, instead of insta-murdering him on sight. Batman talks the tough talk about killers n justice and shit, but what all of the joker's victims? Haven't they deserved justice? Why doesn't batman give a fuck about them or the joker's future victims? Batman literally just simps for his super villain enemies all the time, endlessly, and won't allow any of their victims to ever have any justice. This just shows that batman is just as crazy as the dudes he's fighting, if you ask me..

>>727682353
Good choice friend

>>727690263
poorly executed/unprofitable low-level crime is tied to low IQ. white collar crime like insider trading and exploiting loopholes correlates with high int.

>>727690517
If Batman killed the Joker he would just start regularly escaping Hell instead of escaping Arkham.

>>727686742
Not if you kill two!

I wish Batman wasnt a raging chad.

>>727679928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knS6WK9hN5U

>>727683506
that's all well and good, but that point is often brought up in response to retards who think Batman's rationale is sane and correct, and think it works outside of a comic book. we're in a real-life situation right now where our governments are refusing to punish crime, so this retardation is real and has to be challenged.

>>727679730
Inagine Batman IRL. He will be called antisemitic and a leftist.

>>727690263
>Criminal behavior is tied to low IQ
As the other anon said, crime has nothing to do with IQ

>>727681623
Never realized until now that Yul Brynner would make the perfect Lex

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>>727691912
To me, Kurt Angle during his prime was always the Lex Luthor of WWE. His heel runs were almost like a real life Lex.

Batman should rape the Joker.

>>727679730
>at night
thankfully fartham city crimes are a night thing only

>>727691982
Perc Luthor

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>>727681397
Because Batman is the only hero in the entire industry where his biggest claim to fame is that he's just a regular human guy with nothing special.
That kind of claim WILL bring in massive fucking scrutiny from other people who are just regular human guys with nothing special.

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>>727681397
Merely a reaction against dc fans. Batman being the target because he got the most popular movies.

I think Batman 2022 is the best portrayal of Batman, but it's not a movie I'd rewatch, idk why. I think I am gonna watch the other Batman movies tonight.

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>>727693048
Do 1989

>>727692042
Gordon pls

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>>727679928
I'll never understand why everyone blames Batman when the writer of that comic is a giant liberal who can't write to save his life.

>>727685571
Why are we acting like Bruce is some saint? His entire character is basically that he’s as fucked up as the people he beats up, he just has good intentions while being a schizo instead of a criminal.

>>727686742
You know they always pull out "Thou shall not kill" but never acknowledge "He who strikes down a thief caught in the act dead is not guilty"

>>727679928
frank miller is rolling is his bed

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>>727685485
>>727685617
>>727687456
>meanwhile, in manga

>>727679974
>how does superman shoot lasers out of his eyes
Back in the old days he squinted down to force his iris to deform so it would have a focal point so the light reflecting from his eyes were concentrated.
Same idea as using a magnifying glass to burn ants.

>>727690000
Nah, he becomes way less interesting the moment he starts killing. That’s why the punisher is basically a C tier super hero at best. He’s bland.

>>727682438
>but only as a one-off villain.
He's currently the time-trapper after he got thrown into the phantom zone, and has gotten his ass kicked so hard he's basically on the verge of godhood because whenever he gets killed he regenerates and becomes immune to whatever killed him last.

>>727679730
Anywhere I can pirate the new Batman and Deadpool comic?

>>727679730
>Donates all his money to poor criminals
>Now has no money to be batman
>Amount of crime hasn't changed

>>727693048
I've read before it's one of the few non-joke non-comic Riddler appearances but not a movie guy so I didn't watch it
Riddler is also only serious in Arkham Asylum in Arkham games, in the rest he becomes a clearly joke character
I can suggest Telltale's Batman's S2E1, and only that episode if anyone else wants a serious Riddler, that's probably the best Riddler in video games

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>>727679730
Okay jackass, how would (you) solve the homeless prpblem?

>>727682661
>Batman really doesn't accomplish anything in the Nolan movies beyond defeating, essentially, the Taliban. He fights one real local antagonist (two if we really want to count Scarecrow, who was in league with Ra's), and that's all we get for Batman actually protecting Gotham from its local threats.
You forgot that Gotham gets completely taken over in the 3rd movie?

>>727694735
We kill all immigrants.

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>>727681325
>Poverty causes crime
I heard this repeated so many times in so many places that finding out it's not actually true was like when you find out Santa isn't real.

If poverty causes crime, then why do poor Asians, Jews and Indians commit so much less crime than any other minority? All of them faced discrimination and institutionalised racism too, the a Japanese even had their belongings, houses and business stolen and were thrown in jail as recently as WW2. And yet, there was no Japanese crime wave, and no Asian crime wave ever.

>>727694983
Yeah but it's still an entirely foreign issue that takes it over and not the things that actually ruined Gotham.

>>727695131
Rich black people commit more crimes than poor white people.

>>727695139
He already took down the entire organized crime network of Gotham in the 2nd movie. There were no real local threats left outside of guys locked up in Arkham or random single criminals.

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>>727695131
here is a good example, here you can see arab men rape so much more than white men.
why do you think that is?
here is a pro tip.
NO man has ever raped because he is poor, lacking food has NEVER turned a man into a rapists. a man only ever rapes because he is inherently scum, this means arab men are more scum than white men

>>727682661
One small realistic detail in Nolan's movies is how Harvey dies like a week after his disfiguration, whereas in every other continuity he manages to continue his life like that somehow

>>727683506
Batman would spit on Seal Team 6 and explain that Bin Ladin could have been redeemed.

>>727680427
This is a copout and any writer who uses it is a coward.

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>>727694371
>Riddler is also only serious in Arkham Asylum in Arkham games
Are you saying he's not serious in rest of Arkham games? Because he's clearly a threat in City, Origins and Knight

The more important question is why Batman doesn't just fuck Poison Ivy/Harley/Catwoman?
Imagine, how much crime could have been prevented if he gave them a career ending pregnancy? Imagine the sons, gadget and support they could lend him in his crusade.

>>727695492
why does he have anime googles?

>>727695303
Sorry that you got raped by Arabs, anon

>>727679730
Gotham is an absolute shithole dump with very few positive qualities besides unreal amounts of wealth concentration. It deserves multiple nukes

Yeah, but the Joker.

>>727685420
And how many lives have been lost by his decision that Jonkler can be redeemed if we just keep letting him break out and murder another 200 people?

>>727695630
What about all the regular people who just live there and go to work and don’t commit crime? You’d nuke them too?

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>>727695615
leftists are inherently evil inhuman scum, all of them, there are no good leftists because no leftists disagree with this man

>>727695303
The actual reality is that statistics are skewed by the few that do one crime a lot.
Like, here.
If one person of Nationality A raped 80 people, in addition to 20 others raping one individual person each, that would mean that Nationality A has 100 rapes.
Nationality B has 90 people rape 90 people, one each, so despite having more rapists overall, Nationality A is the one that gets skewed as significantly worse.

>>727679804
he gives one million to the poor children just so the joker steals it and gasses the children, that's basically how his philanthropist job goes all the time.

>>727695709
they barely exist within the context of the story. Even then they are probably one paycheck away from turning into mass murderer thugs according to "poverty causes crime" liberals.

>>727692245
>Writer doesn't understand how insurance works
Unsurprising.

>>727695492
Being a threat doesn't mean he's written in a serious way, only in Asylum he's the Jigsaw tier psychopath he's. Like I said in that post, along with Telltale's Batman that is one of the rare times he's written as brutal as he's supposed to be in non-comic media

>>727693919
It's meant to be "thou shalt not murder", that one mistranslation has really echoed through the ages.

>>727695968
in batman's world insurance covers 100% of the loses plus tip.

>>727696064
>>727695492
They’ve leaned way too hard into him being an insecure narcissist and leaned way far out of him being a murderer. He’s always treated as a tool just to show how smart Batman is versus actually being a serious criminal that Batman should take seriously.

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>>727695770
did you know that 90% of street children in afghanistan have been raped?

>>727695770
Well, those facts are from the UK which makes that issue worse because the police intentionally try not to arrest Arabic people for rape, because they're worried it'll become a stereotype.

>>727696197
sad, that million could have gone to israel

>>727679730
Well just being a single billionaire isn't enough to stop all systemic reasons for crime, he would have to like run for mayor or governor, or president even and make a radical change from there. Have they ever done Batman runs for mayor story in the comics? Regardless there's only so much even on billionaire can do unless he decides to take over and radically change the country he lives in.

>>727695770
>leftist doesn't understand per capita
Why is this so common?

>>727695552
Huge weeb

>>727680008
This is such a fucking reddit take. Poor people (aka stupid people) deserve nothing but contempt and if it takes a fucking twitter screenshot to make you believe this you're just another goyim.

>>727696524
if you took away alcohol and smoking 90% of people struggling economically would suddenly have a pretty good budget per week

>>727696524
As someone who grew up in the ghetto, specifically California, and made it out. I can say it is very easy to hate the poor. They’re stupid, uneducated, arrogant, and any time I have to interact with people who remind me of where I came from, I get frustrated. I work with someone who comes from where I came from and she is the most stupid fucking lukewarm iq retard you could ever meet, but she thinks she knows everything, cares only about her looks and nothing else, is constantly on a pattern of performative “growth” and self destruction that teeters depending on her emotions that day. It’s like the prime example of everyone who comes from the ghetto that’s too stupid to better themselves and choose not to bother.

>>727696435
>per capita
Most of the time that gets misapplied, like the Somalian rape scare a long while back (where almost all Somalian rapes were performed by the same gang of four guys).
People go "Rapes per capita" when it's really taking the amount of individual rapes performed by X race and then getting a number out of that, rather than the number of rapists.

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>>727695552
Since when pilot goggles are called anime goggles?

>>727696064
>Being a threat doesn't mean he's written in a serious way, only in Asylum he's the Jigsaw tier psychopath he's.
Anon, Riddler is written the same way in Arkham games as in Asylum. A smug, condescending asshole
Asylum is also not a good pick because it's only game in the series where he doesn't have much stakes if you don't stop him

>>727696195
>They’ve leaned way too hard into him being an insecure narcissist and leaned way far out of him being a murderer.
That's how Riddler always was
Also they did lean more on him being a psycho murder in City and Knight with hostages

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>>727695732
>Asian grooming
Christ, even when Britcucks are calling it out they still use avoidant language. What a truly pathetic people.

>>727679730
Somehow Gothan might still be one of the better places to live in the DC universe, at least from cities with a local superhero.
Sure their supervillains are absolutely psychotic but they are still human for the most part, no planet destroying gods as far as I know.

>>727679804
>>727679817
I agree but I think it's funny people will say stuff like this to defend Batman but if you say the same about a real billionaire who does these exact philanthropic things they try to argue it doesn't matter suddenly. I guess they need to assault criminals personally in addition to charity and shot.

>>727696815
I see. So is there any country on the planet where stats are taken and Somalians are not over-represented in rape? Or is that gang of four guys just really international?

>Gives random street thug that grew up without a dad in a life of poverty never given a chance except to turn to gangs and crime to survive on the streets no education no hope for ever being anything other than some low life poor thug a brain hemorrhage or severe concussion that they never recover from or breaks a bunch of their bones and makes them paralyzed for life
Why does Batman do it?

>>727690000
>I hate this "Batman doesn't kill" BS even though he did early on, with guns even
Let it go, gramps, that was like 60 years ago. The character changed.

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>>727696815
here is conviction rate, it is per-person and not per-case.

>>727697034
>snaps your spine
>opens up a Wayne foundation near your ghetto so you can wheelchair in and change your life
I don’t think Batman could be more based

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>>727697034
He's just sadistic and uses crimes as an excuse to hurt people.

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>>727697386
what is he going to do with that? i heard he is just a playboy nepo baby

>>727697034
Fuck dem goons

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>>727695131
>and Indians
Indians simply existing in western countries is a crime in and of itself.

>>727697550
JON "ARYAN" JAFARI

>>727697550
I know this is getting in the weeds, but how much of this is to do with wealthy blacks being like basketball players and rappers and shit where, they’re essentially just richer versions of their poor counterparts? Vs like actual doctors or educated blacks? I’m curious if there’s even info on that at all or if I’m way off base with my speculation and that’s not true at all

>>727697034
It's his way of dealing with childhood trauma, please understand

>>727697787
Buddy this is a stupid question, stop being a pretentious racist and just be a normal racist and hate all of them

>>727696197
>costing taxpayers 1million+ pounds
Fun fact: the death penalty is several times more expensive than life sentences

>>727679730
In the Nolanverse (kinoverse) his dad was a doctor and philanthropist who built hospitals and public transit, and it didn't do anything to keep him from dying to senseless street crime. So he thought he had to embody something larger-than-life like a superstition and become a deterrant to crime that way. Like a boogeyman that breaks your femur if you sell crack.

>>727697898
I’m definitely racist, I’m asking more out of like a …morbid curiosity, not so much to defend them.

>>727697787
it doesnt matter to the point. the argument is poor black people commit crime because they are poor. but they will still commit more crime even if they arent poor.

but yeah it probably does have everything to do with education, as these things usually do. its not a genetic issue its a cultural issue.

It's a comic character from the 40s, i doubt it would be able to tackle modern day problems

>>727697152
moldovabros?

>>727679928
As stupid as the story is the art is even more hilarious

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>>727697787
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/retard.htm
The average black IQ is absolutely abysmal (link talks about the fact that the bar for mental retardation was lowered from 85 to 70 because way too many blacks fit the bill), and many fit the criteria of genetic criminals. Crime (not something like tax evasion or ideological resistance, but the basic violent kind like rape, unjustified assault and murder, unplanned thievery) is overwhelmingly a genetic issue, coming from a total lack of the cognitive ability for empathy, very low impulse control and an inability to care about or even understand the idea of the future. Native black languages have no words for the idea of the future and it's never considered important in any of their beliefs.

Educated/doctor blacks are unicorns, and the vast majority of those are not pure blacks but Obama-type larpers. They get money through a ton of affirmative action, nepotism, or as you said low IQ career paths. Niggers truly do get showered with money constantly and those with luck easily get millions through lawyers printing some bullshit sad story to get them fundraising or jewstice settlements.

>>727698183
Moldova is a loophole country that allows every Russian and other central asian shithole to get Romanian passports with which they can travel throughout the EU. I doubt even 1% of those criminals are actual Moldovans.

>>727679730
batty needs to kill every criminal. a fair compromise between all leftists and rightists i think we can all agree on is that he can double his philanthropy efforts towards the poor and kill anyone who is still evil (all batman thugs, mobsters, and supervillains) despite the generous aid

>>727698693
moldovia sounds like a fake country dr. doom rules over

>>727698742
It is fake, you're right. It was created by the Soviets to justify stealing just a bit more land after WW2.

>>727679730
What do you mean? Batman does his job every fucking time, it's the institutions that keep either releasing the criminals or letting them escape. How exactly is the Joker EVER outside of Arkham Asylum? Not Batman's fault that Gorham is so fucked they can't even keep some guy in clown makeup locked inside a super prison for the criminally insane

>>727685571
ackshually billionaires tend to use charities for tax evasion or fund stuff without having a direct involvement

>>727685617
I like absolute Batman

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>>727698109
Thanks anons. Pretty interesting stuff, I’ve always been curious about this stuff but just never put in the effort to read up on it.

>>727680587
Its different when niggers are involved. Just lookbat Detroit Michigan. Total shit hole till Blackrock came in and took control away from niggers.

>>727679974
Except I'm pretty sure all three things have been explained at one point or another in the comics

>>727699245
Enjoy, though studies mostly confirm what you could guess via common sense. The stuff about their languages is very interesting though, no amount of coping can change how useful analyzing their actual language and culture is to understanding their thought process and way of living.

>>727680427
>plus the city is built on cursed ground and above a gateway to hell
That's a retarded and boring explanation that was never needed

>>727679730
he can't tell the difference between Mr. Freeze's situation and Joker's situation

>>727685571
This is just blatantly false in batman lore. His work is all extremely honest and above ground and the reason gotham never improves is muh sociodemonological factors make dem keedz evil

>>727679730
I remember a comic arc where the Wayne Enterprises tried to make a social project to help kids and college students with a fund, and the Batman later tracking it down and realizing that less than 10 percent went for it.

>>727685180
Some villains are just evil assholes m8

It's weird how so many people don't understand that Bruce Wayne is as crazy as the villains he faces, it simply manifests in a different way. He thinks having a superhero persona will change the world and his ideas of justice and mercy are twisted into a pretzel, to say nothing of his "If I kill a single villain then I will be just as bad as they are and I won't be able to stop killing until everyone is in danger" mindset. The entire mythos is an insane man versus other insane people.