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Why was Kanako's suffering and torment forgotten about by Undertale Yellow's devs?
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>>727722164
Relevant
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>>727722164
Because concerning Undertale Yellow's plot, she was ultimately redundant to Ceroba's overall plight. You could achieve the same emotion and motives of her situation if Kanako was scrubbed from the script. She's an even bigger non-character than Chara, who was damn near erased from memory
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>>727722164
because originally she was supposed to be fucking dead, nothing but just a step to prop roba up from the get go
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>>727724453
Why do people keep shilling this literally who faggot's opinion here?
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>>727727356
easy (You) fuel
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reminder that ceroba is fat
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It's one of those days, isn't it...
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>>727726360
threadly reminder that if Kanako didn't exist, then these threads would have stopped being made a few months after UTY's release. without Kanako Godotanon's game, DRY1 and DRY2 wouldn't exist, in consequence Naranja wouldn't exist either since it was inspired by the devanons, without Kanako there is a high chance Wildfire wouldn't exist too or it would be a very different game, since Wildfire's dev only found 4chan from looking at the source of Signirsol's fanarts, and UTW uses several ideas that were discussed in these threads, Oldentale and SURVEY2 would have had similar fates too
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>>727728364
fangame news have been very slow, and there isn't even any new (good) UTY art
here have this random pic I found of chujin and clover, maybe it will spark some kind of conversation
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>>727730278
can't believe 90% of the UT fandom was filtered before it even booting the game
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>>727730278
The Switch is easily hacked, so couldn't someone make this a reality?
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>>727724453
Nigger
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>>727729249
Quite the butterfly effect
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>>727729618
I did get a martlet as gift art
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>>727724453
>she/her he/him
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>>727727070
>>727726360
>created as a prop for Roba
>people like her more and wish the game was about her instead
Are there any other examples of this? The closest I can think of is that second captain america in that awful winter soldier tv show.
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>>727729618
What series of events lead to this?
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>>727729249
Oldentale might still exist, since I had the idea before I'd even heard of UTY, but who's to say what would have really happened.
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>>727728004
Good, I love bbw anthros
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>>727731449
it is an AU where chujin adopt clover but I wanted to bait people into thinking it was something else
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>>727731868
>Yaoi hands
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>>727731545
It would still be different since I remember you discussing ideas with anons in these threads
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>>727731743
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>>727729618
>>727731868
>but I wanted to bait people into thinking it was something else
I couldn't feel any coomer ki coming from that image, I don't think anyone would believe it was something not wholesome
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>>727732158
Definetly. It might not have even been a game. It could have gone the Undertale Halloween Hack route, and just been a webcomic or fic.
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>>727732331
I felt a lot furry ki coming off of it. I've seen some pretty weird stuff drawn in that sort of artstyle.
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>>727732470
with all the drama recently I thought it had similar vibes without context
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>>727731868
This guy's art kinda reminds me of Freefall
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>>727732038
Those arent yaoi hands, they are too aggressively normal. The art strikes me odd but i get the impression that they arent going THAT way in this. I hope not at least because ive had "what if chujin took in clover after getting over his own issues" living rent free
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>>727731958
what game is this guy from again
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>>727732172
Its just the shame that plump-roba art is very scare and the stuff i do find are of questionable quality. Fuckin Martlet has more good bbw art than her.
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I know this is a bit outta the blue and unrelated to Yellow fellas... but have you guys seen this fan game? And if so what are your thoughts on it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ba5rFoBh0

Honestly I found it all to be very promising and an exciting prospective au setting until the ending part where it deviated into some weird ass schizoid super mario bros thing that was meant to take the piss out of mario horror shit
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>>727733114
>he doesn't know
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>>727732994
I was referring to the top panel.
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>>727733618
Ah fuck my bad
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>>727733556
A Deltarune fan game that taks place before the events of Deltarune involving Varik is a kino concept, but like you said they kinda ruined it at the end. I better idea would be to have Varik be Kris's father and have him die at the end of his adventure in some Dark World, leaving Kris to be adopted by the Dreemurrs
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>>727733114
He's from Nothing, I made him the fuck up
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>>727729618
>Almost 2nd anni
>Crickets
>Endless drama
>Most viral posts on Twitter about UTY are hate or maybe Ceroba NSFW from someone who never played the game
bleak
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>>727734317
Meanwhile in reality, tons of art from fans of the game, some people even saying the "drama" is fucking stupid
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>>727729618
>>727731868
You know i never realized how goofy his pink hair is until now, Im to used to seeing his colorless dialogue icon or him aurafarming on the computer screen
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>>727734317
samefag but
>inb4 Deltarune yellow or [insert kanaclover story] ao3 story is good!
I’m not a kanacloverfag sorry
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Chrimas Birb anyone?
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>>727722164
Clover fucks her two moms.
https://files.catbox.moe/effl6m.jpeg
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>>727729618
Im not at my computer right now but ive seen 10 or so new images in the last few days that are pretty good. Im always up for the ancient /v/ traditions of image dumps
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>>727734496
>her
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>>727734474
The bird of happiness
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>>727734402
I thought his hair was white.
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>>727734474
Adorable!

please make her fatter
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>>727734474
That doesn't really look like a christmas hat. Her top is nice though.
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>>727734639
some artists give him pink hair (I think its because his old design had pink hair but i may be wrong) and I find it look goofy as heck
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>>727722164
Because she's meant to be nothing more than an Uncle Ben sort of character, she's just there to give other characters their reasons for why they do what they do, she's not an important character by herself.
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How does Sub-Zero replacing the integrity soul change UTY's plot?
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>>727734876
He still jobs to Axis. The only change is that Kanako becomes a MK ninja recolor after being injected.
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>>727734876
Man even if this AU is suppose to be "Undertale Yellow Hardcore mode"... Someone like Sub-Zero would massacre the mosnters easily. Humans without any magic elemental powers already seem like a massive threat to monsterkind, but having one with deadly ice powers? They'd be fucked
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>>727731868
What were you trying to imply, exactly...?
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>>727734967
>He still jobs to Axis. The only change is that Kanako becomes a MK ninja recolor after being injected.

Thats hilariously stupid, dunno whether to love it or hate it. Also what the fuck do you mean Kanako becomes a MK Ninja?
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>>727735007
Chujin is the type of dad to force her daugter into an arranged marriage for the "greater good of monsterkind" or some shit.
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>>727734980
From what I understand, the AU is actually "Undertale Yellow but the creator spilled a bunch of MK stuff in it like chemical X", so maybe the monsters have some equal footing here.
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>>727734876
Someone needs to draw Sub-Zero railing Samurai Cerobra as a display of dominance over such a vile fox demoness.
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>>727735192
Yes I skimmed that artist's account, they seem to be a massive MK fan and Sub-Zero simp lol
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>>727735045
I was making a joke about how every ninja in the mortal kombat games is a recolor of the same sprite
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>>727735461
You joke, but in that AU Kanako actually gets turned into a version of Noob Saibot from the serum they make from Sub-Zero.
Not sure how that works, since the Sub-Zero in this AU isn't even Bi Han, but whatever.
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>>727735196
Thia, but draw me railing her instead
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>>727734701
what I had on hand, its apparently a christmas witch hat
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>>727734980
Sub Zero is a jobber. All that guy can do is die. Even other people who take up the name and alternate universe versions of him die with zero victories. He even came back from the dead just to job. And don't even ask about how he does against robots.
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>>727735196
Mr. Sunshine...
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>>727735125
>her daughter
I'm going to ignore that in favor of
>Kanaclover arranged marriage
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>>727735196
Draw him getting instant lossed by Roba
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>>727735652
That's part of the joke. I like to imagine she literally is a recolor of one of these sprites in game, but then she takes off her mask and has the normal kanako head underneath.
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>>727735007
What happened next
https://files.catbox.moe/8afwpx.mp4
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Hello again.
While I did initially say that I'd only take requests again after I finished that Kanako project, I have decided against my better judgement to take them now.
Give me your request ideas, and I'll do whichever ones I like the most, or figure would make for good practice. Try and keep things simple, 1-2 characters at most, and try and include any references or details you want included in your initial request post, since I can't guarantee I'll see any addendums you might make. I also don't guarantee that any requests I take will be done before the end of the month, but we'll see.
I'm no Sig, but I hope I'm able to adequately deliver, when I can.
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>>727736912
you're the guy that did susie and ceroba with massive breasts right?
then i will fish this back up
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/725257367/#725362669
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>>727737097
>you're the guy that did susie and ceroba with massive breasts right?
Yes, that's me.
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>>727736912
A little Kanako meeting a little Cole for the first time
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Ceroba dressed up as Da Ji from Warrior Orochi.
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>>727736150
he would marry kanako to a boss monster from a renowned family years before a filthy ningen
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>>727736912
Susie giving Lancer a piggyback ride, then a second panel of an older Lancer princess carrying an older Susie while he has the chad face
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>>727737212
alright cool, dont let me down. i want to see kanako with some real bazongas.
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>>727736912
Martlet in ill fitting Royal Guard armor
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>>727736912
draw wiki with emphasis on her thighs
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>>727736912
Riley (or Shu) as the crying man and Mr. Sunshine as Yujiro walking away
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>>727737652
I said I was the one who made that image you referred to, not that I had selected yours. I will make my selections once the thread is over, and I can go over all the different requests.
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>>727735125
I think thats actually very out of character with what we know
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>>727737568
No, you just don't comprehend the scope of his kekiaku. This is the first stage in his plan to exterminate humanity by breeding them out of existence.
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>>727737756
do both of them sitting next to each other while he walks away
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>>727737771
fair enough.
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>>727736671
Be honest. You’re a certain redditfag that made this, but you don’t want people knowing. I’m 100% sure of that because I have never seen this posted anywhere else
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>>727736912
right I shouldn't assume that everyone saw her so here is a ref
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>>727738305
Yes, good, thank you.
As previously stated, I won't be locking in my selection until the thread is over, but do you have any particular poses in mind if I were to do this one?
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>>727738465
no specific poses in mind, it's just ever since oldentaleanon's comment a while ago about how she has nice thighs I've just been craving some fluffy goat thighs, so anything that really shows them off
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>>727737771
I second his request for Kanako with some real dodonhonkeroos.
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>>727738747
I third the request
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>>727736150
Sorry for the typo lol, now people are gonna think Chujin is a Troonjin
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>>727733331
it's not fair
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>>727736912
ceroba and a nondescript human male holding hands
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>>727737987
I agree, I just wanted to say something stupid. If anything Ceroba would be the one to be more inclined to try and organize an arranged marriage
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>>727739221
Is she grown up here or an Oppai Loli?
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>>727739615
You aren't the inventor of that idea. I have seen multiple people post the idea of Chujin and Roba being a transmale on transfem relationship.
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>>727739785
>"What? He saved your life? I'll start planning the wedding immediately?"
>"Why? Because that's how it happened to me."
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>>727739850
Artist didn't know she was loli, so he drew her as a moe with big tits. Then anons asked him to make them bigger instead of fixing it.
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>>727739938
no that makes complete sense
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>>727739853
Yes brother, I know. Ive seen numerous of the twitter "fans" make shit like that. God I hate the UTY fandom more than regular UT and DR, cause with them you can at least get it cause they're the target audience. the creator of Yellow, Mastersword is a Christian and his game has almost no homo in it besides Moray being an Enbie, yet I se like 20 Ceroba theme accounts with trans flag backgrounds saying the most degenerate shit ever.
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>>727736912
Honeydew Shopkeeper performing a naked dogeza, like so (but front facing, with her back clearly visible)
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>>727740040
I was talking about fetishists on /v/.
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What would be a good way to do family drama involving Toriel? Say if she had a sister or brother, what might be a good angle to generate strife between them from?
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I may extend the requests window into the next thread, activity seems slow in this one.
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>>727740230
Honestly at that point I'd say maybe the 4chan and twitter fandoms are two sides of the same degen coin lol
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>>727740149
What is the context for this lmao
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>>727740508
twitter tries to use politics to justify their fetish, anons just admit they're freaks who like men in dresses and unnatural sexual activities.
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>>727740578
artist or commissioner had a humiliation fetish.
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>>727739639
One day the age of Roba bbw will happen... One day
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>>727740149
Why does Chujin have such a feminine ass?
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>>727740149
>>727740689
>Photograph of the Ketsukane Femaily prostrating themselves to Humanity during their surrender after defeat in the Second Human-Monster War - Circa 21XX
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>>727740843
>The humans didn't even tell them to do this, they just did it of their own accord
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>>727740836
I'm honestly shocked at how much sexual dimorphism the artist was able to get across in this pic lmao. Notice the larger hands/feet, even a different waist.
But Chujin still seems feminized as hell. Maybe because he looks naked and vulnerable.
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>>727740967
>What the fuck? Put your clothes on and get in the cave.
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>>727740836
normal fox physiology
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>>727741115
>"B-But though this time you would be enslaving us and using us for your own depraved desires?"

>"Ew. No. Go back to bootleg Agartha and continue slowly dying from depression you dustbags."
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>>727741582
>Meanwhile anon had to be chained to a post and is actively frothing at the mouth at the idea of claiming monster spoils
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>>727741864
>"Honestly we're doing this for your own good guys you dumb dust devils. You do NOT want to live with some of the freaks among us."
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Why did they make Clover so sexy?
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>>727742112
Because Cowboys are sexy you idiot
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>>727742017
>among us
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>>727740149
dalv...
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>>727742230
that is how kanako imagines cole in her fanfics
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>>727742819
to get the best ending in dry you will have to read the entirety of kanako's literary work "fractured century" without the skip button
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>>727742972
>fractured century
Is that like an actual fanfic or did you JUST make it up?
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>>727742017
They say they don't, but they're actions beg to differ.
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>>727743093
its a meme on shattered decade (a good kanaclover fic, though I feel it jumped the gun a bit in some points)
speaking of kanaclover fics, recently I found a new one called "another phantasm". will give it a read later and share my thoughts
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>>727743093
I think that's meant to be a play on Fractured Decade.
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>>727743093
i made it up
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>>727743224
Looks intresting, but it even bothering with pronouns shit makes me feel like i'd be a bit disappointed with what it has to offer in terms of story and romance.
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>>727743280
the pronoun stuff is only in the art, clover is referred as male and his maleness is a point brought up here and there
the actual issue with the story IMO is (no big spoilers) it went a bit too fast into their relationship, I feel like it could have taken a bit longer to develop, but it is still a good read
I recommend it
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>>727743428
oh and the first chapters are a bit rushed, but it gets good once clover and kanako meet
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>>727740843
What is it about the nature of fox monsters that causes them to immediately submit to a more dominant human male?
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>>727743536
In terms of the natural pecking order of things, Humans hunt foxes. It only makes sense. Foxes should submit to their superiors like humans and wolves.
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>>727743536
Russian selective breeding programs
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>>727743846
Revenge for the Russo-Japanese War by assfucking Chujin
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>>727740423
I actually had this weird and frankly autistic idea floating around my head a while ago about Asgore having a hypothetical older sister, it's a bit of an absurd concept so bear with me. that resents the fact that Asgore is the leader of Monsterkind and not her because Asgore is a male and succession operates on agnatic primogeniture. She also dislikes Asgore marrying Toriel because she thinks she’s to soft and not from proper nobility despite being a boss monster (honestly we know nothing about how dynasties or royalty works with monsters but i like to assume Toriel only became royalty because she married ashore or was part of a very minor noble family). All of this culminates in her being very envious and a bit power hungry, which then causes her to turn to Humanity to further her goals. Now ive always been the kinda person to headcanon that the intro human/human king were childhood friends before shit went down, so lets just assume the human king has also known Asgore’s sister for a while and maybe the two had a bit of an infatuation with each other. Perhaps the Sister marries the Human King for both pragmatic and possibly romantic reasons. Asgore would obviously support it and everyone would think it’d be the ultimate example of peace and unity between humans and monsters. But the sister has a plan to use humanity’s superior power to her own benefit. She teaches her husband and other high ranking humans about magic and how to use it, and also mentions the whole “monsters and take human souls and become super powerful” thing as well to rile them up. Her entire plan is to start a war between humans and monsters with fear mongering and when Asgore is defeated they’d put her on the throne as the new ruler of monsters. Things however don't go as expected as it turns out the humans were more… more zealous than she thought. The humans round up the monsters and banish them underground, Asgore’s sister is all like “well shit”.
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>>727744135
She is spared due to technically being the Queen of humanity and being one to warn and aid the humans regarding monsters so she’s “one of the good ones”. She spends a large amount of time frankly enjoying being the Queen of a powerful human kingdom, but due to being a monster she covers up herself as to look like she’s just a very large human instead of a boss monster (cant really hide the horns tho). After the Human King dies of age she becomes a hermit for centuries living in the woods, feeling guilty over her power hungry actions. Over the centuries legends start around her about an ancient witch with horns who is a practitioner of magic and is able to teach those pure of heart and determination. By modern times she is a sort of pseudo-pagan legend akin similar in depiction to the real world’s Baphomet. And that there is about it for my crazy "what if" idea I cooked up in my retarded brain
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>>727736912
This picture but with Mooch
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>>727744189
Did she and human man have any children?
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You know, being able to receive Sans' phone call after passing through the barrier in the neutral endings implies that radio waves can pass through the barrier, which could mean other sorts of waves and particles could too.
Basically, if monsterkind invented those digitizer guns from Tron, they'd be able to just beam themselves outside the barrier. Are they stupid?
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>>727744572
>Basically, if monsterkind invented those digitizer guns from Tron, they'd be able to just beam themselves outside the barrier. Are they stupid?
The barrier would probably stop the living radio waves from passing through, but yes they are canonically stupid.
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>>727744687
I think the beams used by the digitizers in Tron just use some generic energy, so they should be fine.
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>>727744784
The barrier is magic, it would still know that generic energy is a living monster. Monsters might be made of living energy, since they're 70% magic.
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>>727744189
that sounds pretty cool actually, would like to see something with this premise
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>>727740887
You know, Martlet has a very pronounced ass in an image that is (I think) meant to be wholesome.
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>>727744514
That actually was the plan... but I have no fucking idea how to go about it or what the repercussions would be. I'd like to assume that a Boss Monster having a child with a Human would not remove them from being ageless like with two Boss Monsters having a kid.
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if monsters are mostly magic how much of them is water
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>>727744928
I dunno, the barrier doesn't seem to have any problem letting you take the snowman piece with you, and that thing apparently has some kind of actual connection to the snowman himself, since he apparently knows how far it's traveled with you. If whatever connection the snowman piece has to the snowman isn't blocked by the barrier, I figure an energy stream would be fine.
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>>727745045
Maybe their kids kept coming out as humans, so they just lived like normal humans would, and eventually bred into the common population.
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>>727745070
The snowman peice is being carried by Frisk, who has a human and a monster soul.
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>>727745025
Its a realistically shapely form. Shes allowed to look good after working herself to exhaustion for the kid
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>>727741470
I would suck a fart out of it
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>>727745070
>alphys finds out about the snowman piece and jumps off the cliff in waterfall trying to figure out how to turn monsters into snow
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>>727744189
What's she doing in the deltarune universe?
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>>727745210
That sounds like more of a Chujin thing. Alphys would push other people off a cliff.
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>>727745182
No, they don't, Asgore's soul is shattered before they can absorb it.
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>>727745025
Having a nice ass doesn't disqualify someone from living a normal life.
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>>727745020
Thanks. It's part of my whole desire to make this idea a true Undertale "prequel" concept and make it a classic tale full of tragic moments typical of Toby's original work. The idea of the human nation bordering the monsters having a prince that was the childhood friend/bff of a young Asgore. The whole idea of the Asgore having a sister was frankly born out of me just being a degenerate that liked the idea of an "anti-toriel" that the Human King was married to. She becomes a convenient outlet to pin the blame on for a lot of events and explain shit like humans started to become skilled in magic or how humans even know about shit like soul absorption. Also because I wanted to depict the entire Human-Monster conflict as being much more morally grey
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>>727745323
You load to before Flowey got the soul to leave.
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>>727745287
iirc she kills herself in waterfall in one of the neutral endings
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>>727745440
>You load to before Flowey got the soul to leave.
You don't, because that would also bring back the six human souls, and we know for a fact that the souls vanish in every neutral ending, so obviously Frisk walking out of the underground happens after.
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>>727745231
Her and Varik are probably fucking in some shitty motel. But seriously idk, I'd like to think she'd be a harsh but caring older sister and probably keeps offering Asgore to live with her instead of desperately trying to get back with Toriel (I should reiterate, she is NOT a fan of Toriel at all or that her brother is so in love with her.)
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>>727740040
Anon, I don't like how degenerate a lot of Cerobafags are, and I also hate the UTY fandom more than UTDR, but she looks like a generic furry. What did you expect?
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>>727740230
Trans Chujin and Trans Ceroba are semi popular ideas in the UTY fandom, moreso outside of here
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>>727745682
Yeah fair enough, but ive noticed that these fags grivate towards hardcore mother figures that have lost their husbands, like Ceroba and Laika from Laika: Aged through Blood
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>>727745652
What would her relationship with Asriel and Kris be like, and what would they think of their aunt?
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did they ever clarify how killing the feisty four would have worked?
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>>727745420
> me just being a degenerate that liked the idea of an "anti-toriel"
Its funny, I came up with Wiki the same way. Though I think my idea of anti-Toriel is very different from yours (since I view Toriel as being the evil one, which would make her evil twin actually be nice if a little spooky). Basically the only thing they have in common is the baphomet resemblance.

Could probably say the same for my idea of pre-underground history. Same initial idea, wildly different interpretations. Maybe these could be two competing theories on monster history presented by monster historians, neither of which have much respect in the wider historian community.
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>>727745815
In Deltarune I'd assume she'd be the "fun aunt" and try to do things that a stereotypically "suburban christian mom" like Toriel wouldn't really approve of. If I decide to lean in more on her maybe looking akin to a Baphomet then it would especially make sense. I also think she'd be a bit of a humanphile for obvious reasons and try to get Kris to connect with and embrace his humanity, cause its very clear Kris doesnt like being human cause of how he used to wear horns as a kid or how in he just doesnt like looking at humans in general cause it makes him uncomfortable. She'd probably think Kris living and growing up in what is basically a monster only town is not healthy and give Toriel and Asgore shit for it, and also think Toriel is repressing both Kris and Asriel too much with her own views and dogma.
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>>727745615
The souls leave on their own now that Asgore isn't around to keep them there. Plus Flowey still got them out of the jars before killing Asgore, so they're still free.
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>>727745861
Clover fans the hammer
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>>727745652
>Asgore's sister is fucking Kris's biological father
I bet that makes for an awkward thanksgiving dinner

>She is not a fan of Toriel
Why does she hate her in this universe?
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>>727746191
>The souls leave on their own now that Asgore isn't around to keep them there.
The souls weren't stuck in the jars because of Asgore, it's not like he was hanging out in that room 24/7 to keep them in place.
>Plus Flowey still got them out of the jars before killing Asgore, so they're still free.
After. He does that after. We see him grab the souls after. He very specifically does that after Asgore is dead.
Also, you can tell Frisk doesn't have Asgore's soul because their stats are exactly the same as they are before Asgore's fight, when we know for a fact that either a human or a monster absorbing the soul of the other species is supposed to give them a power boost, so Frisk being the same as they always are is a pretty good indicator that they don't absorb his soul.
You know, aside from seeing it shatter on screen.
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>>727746419
>After. He does that after.
We see him wave them around in the air like the chaos emeralds after that, but they were already out of the jars.

>we know for a fact that either a human or a monster absorbing the soul of the other species is supposed to give them a power boost
Its never stated that a human gets any kind of power boost from taking a monster's soul. We are however told that monster souls are pathetically weak compared to human souls. Asgore's soul may be so insignificant next to (you)rs that it doesn't even register. It just rounds down into nothing.
> their stats are exactly the same as they are before Asgore's fight
I don't remember you being able to check his stats after the Omega Flowey fight. You go to the spare flowey sequence, then straight into the Sans phone call.
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>>727746097
I did also have the idea maybe in the direct aftermath of the Human-Monster War the King of Humanity and his Boss Monster wife (who I should say is quite skilled in magic if I didn't make it clear before) start a large unifying war against other human civilizations and win thanks to the magical edge. From what we see in the intro, the humans back then seemed very.. Tribal. The European tribes during antiquity. Honestly I’d bet the Monster Kingdom, while being the only monster civilization in existence, was always more advanced than the human tribal kingdoms that surrounded it, beginning in a High Medieval Era. The only reason they avoided human contact for so long is because many humans were frankly terrified of the monsters and only knew of them through legends and rare encounters. I’d like to think that the tribe/culture of humans that were the first ones to truly interact with monsters were displaced from their original homeland and seeking a new land for settlement and refuge, and giving the lands surrounding the mythical kingdom of monsters being empty it seemed like a good place to stay, this would force them have much more direct contact with monsterkind and start the true beginnings of human-monster diplomacy and relations. After the aftermath of the human-monster war i’d be safe to assume the humans also took a look at monster innovations, which would also aid them in their conquests against the other humans. In the aftermath they’d probably create the first true human civilization ever, and even after the collapse of the kingdom its legacy is still felt. A very Rome-like civilization in terms of impact that still is felt in modern times.

Honestly a lot about the world of undertale/deltarune is very vague so their is a lot of shit you can headcanon
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>>727746279
>Why does she hate her in this universe?
this probably explains it >>727746159

She's basically always been a norm defyer. In undertale she was probably the first person to marry a human, and her being cucked from rulership due to being a woman probably made her resent monster traditionalism. In Deltarune her reasonigs are probably less complicated.
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>>727746097
What is her story and when did you come up with her?
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>>727745395
All I'm saying is that the artist definitely knew what they were doing when they drew her ass like that.
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>>727746725
Again, a lot of similarities with Oldentale. The technological gap between the humans and the monsters (though mine is much more extreme), there being many human tribes but only one monster kingdom, the human tribe which fought the war being relatively recent arrivals in the region, humans taking monsters inventions after the war and claiming them as their own (though again more extreme, with them claiming the monsters' civilization was actually a human one as well) there are a lot of major differences, but it is interesting how we've ended having so many things in common.

And again, this all feels like something that play on the monster equivelent of the history channel at 3 am. One spikey haired monster arguing that Asgore had a sister, who married a human and started the war, while the other claims that the monsters actually did take a single human soul, and there was a whole saga surrounding that going on instead.
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>>727746669
>but they were already out of the jars.
Source?
>I don't remember you being able to check his stats after the Omega Flowey fight. You go to the spare flowey sequence, then straight into the Sans phone call.
You still have to actually walk through the gate out of the underground, you're spawned in the room just past the barrier, after the room where you fight Asgore to begin with.
>Its never stated that a human gets any kind of power boost from taking a monster's soul. We are however told that monster souls are pathetically weak compared to human souls. Asgore's soul may be so insignificant next to (you)rs that it doesn't even register. It just rounds down into nothing.
Be that as it may, but that doesn't explain the fact that the game never shows Frisk absorbing Asgore's soul, and never refers to it in any way, outside of Asgore telling Frisk to take his soul which is then immediately followed up by Asgore's soul being destroyed in front of you.
UT goes out of it's way to show lots of little details, so something as major as Frisk absorbing Asgore's soul isn't exactly something the game would just neglect to show if it happened.
It doesn't happen.
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>>727746204
clover magdumping axis during the first encounter in geno was oddly satisfying
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>>727747393
>Source?
The souls come out of Flowey when he does his spooky soul power up before crashing your game. That would mean that he already absorbed them before killing Asgore and what we saw him do was activate them.
>UT goes out of it's way to show lots of little details
It does leave out lots of details when it wants to, like with the endings. It never shows Frisk walk out into the surface, but it also doesn't show him sitting in gay baby jail either. It doesn't show what he does after going home to his real family either. It leaves that stuff up to interpretation on purpose.

I suppose you could read it as Frisk being trapped in gay baby jail forever, or you could just as easily read it as him taking Asgore's soul and escaping the underground, as that's the only way the game ever states he can escape without breaking the barrier.
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>>727747324
Yeah I DID not expect to encounter some dude who had similar ideas that also has his own art of his character. I came up with the "Asgore has a Sister that married the Human King and kinda is the mastermind behind the war cause dynastic politics" months ago.
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>>727747273
I can't really explain the her story without spoilers, so instead I'll just say that she's Toriel's sister, and they don't get along very well.

As far as when I came up with her, the original idea was for another character I had an idea for back when I first came up with the premise of Oldentale. I later got rid of the character because it was too edgy and felt like a retread of Undyne, but I did reuse some of the elements of that character for her. Wiki herself I came up with a little over a year ago. I think I originally called her Tristi, but changed that because Latin names are an Asgore thing, not a Toriel thing.
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>>727748063
Why did you capitalize "DID" specifically?
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>>727748354
I dont know, to be dramaitc?
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>>727748967
But why not the whole "DID NOT" instead. Doing it like that makes it sound like you're being sarcastic and actually did expect that. Or maybe I'm just being a retard and reading it in a completely nonsensical way.
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>>727748063
So is there any more to this human monster war story, or is it just a concept?

Oldentale is a full length fangame that I've been working on for over a year at this point.
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>>727749272
Capitalizing the "not" DID not seem unnecessary (lol). This is a very silly line of discussion.
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>>727744928
Teleportation in science fiction tends to rely on a materialist perspective where you're the sum of all the molecules that make you up. If you're taken apart and put back together, like a machine, you're still you. Or, at least you're an indistinguishable copy of yourself with your memories.
Undertale explicitly has SOULs as the culmination of one's being, and the barrier blocks SOULs of insufficient power specifically. What would end up happening would that monsters would die as soon as they crossed the barrier, since their dust would cross without the SOUL that holds them together.
It does make me wonder why monsters don't try to pick up radio waves from the outside human world, or why any rogue monsters haven't tried to establish communications. Maybe it happens post-neutral as an experimental sort of thing.
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>>727744189
Love this concept. Scheming characters are fun.
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>>727749871
>Love this concept. Scheming characters are fun
While my anti-Toriel is not a schemer like that anon's, or particularly evil. I do have a certain scheming fox in Oldentale (maybe even a couple) that you may like.
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>>727749632
>Oldentale is a full length fangame that I've been working on for over a year at this point.
Oh shit really, thats fuckin cool.

HonestlymMy ideas on it aren't that many. I do wanna sorta make the King of the Human's and his boss monster Wife out to be antagonistic. Not that they're evil, but more so they're just conquerors and benevolent Tyrants. I'd like to think Asgore's Sister (man i deed to give her a name) would manipulate her husband into following her line of thinking about ruleship and power. After monsterkind was banished and the whole "usurp Asgore" plan was a bust she'd probably decide to just enjoy and exploit being the wife of the most powerful man of the world. While the Human King is much stronger than her despite her magical prowess he loves her way to much to really put his foot down on her desires. Like how she's an anti-Toriel, their relationship may be an antithesis to Asgore and Toriel's, in which the really in love with each other till death does them part, though how healthy and equal the relationship is is questionable, and in this relationship the wife would be the “bad one”. Like how Asgore is the "bad one" in their relationship (though that only happened after his two kids died so thats why I put it in quotes, I am an Asgore respecter).
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>>727749871
>Love this concept. Scheming characters are fun.
Yes I want to make her out to be a sort of embodiment of the "evil stepmother" but easy on the evil. Like I said she's just more envious, ambitious, and power hungry than evil. A very self serving and individualist thinking person that hates being dictated but loves dictating. I like to think her line of thinking always made her an outcast amongst monster kind because the vast majority of Monsters are comically nice and the monster characters we see in undertale who are more prone to aggressive actions like Undyne are the result of the aftermath of the war. Asgore’s sister probably finds most of her people to be annoying, absurd, or just flat out stupid. This is probably the main reason why she gravitated towards humans and admired their way of thinking and the nature of the human soul compared to that of monsters. Ambition does require determination. She and Undyne during the neutral ending where she becomes queen would get along well if it weren't for the fact she can be considered the Arch-Traitor to Monsterkind and literally in bed with the enemy. (Honestly that brings up the idea that Asgore might’ve heavily censored any information about her cause it would be demoralizing to know that his Sister was the mastermind and put into question if the Monarchy should rule, as well as the narrative of the War and why it was fought)

We never really get any ideas of a monster who is very “unmonsterlike” in Toby’s works. In contrary we have someone like Chara and Kris who can be considered very “unhumanlike” humans, but honestly we have barely any point of reference for normal human behavior and ideology that it's a stretch.
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>>727750274
>man i deed to give her a name
Asgore's name is latin, so maybe try thinking of a word that describes her, and translate it to latin.

Also I really like the idea of the evil power couple. Like they're evil cartoon villains, except they call each other snookems and sugar bear in between bouts of genocide.
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>>727734496
Wait a second, that's not FemClover!
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>>727750947
I also prefer it when they're not cartoonishly evil. They could even want some sort of "greater good" to come about from their plans, but an inherent flaw results in a worse outcome for everyone. I always found that sort of writing to be satisfying. In the Silmarillion, for example, elves tend to quite virtuous but when they are selfish or prideful they sow the seeds of their own downfall even if it takes hundreds of years. There's a clear chain of events forming a broader narrative.
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>>727750947
Wouldn't this seriously re contextualize Asriel and Chara's relationship?
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>>727751341
>taking influence from the SIlmarillion
I swear its like you're my evil twin. How do you keep doing everything I'm doing?
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>>727751445
I think I know what you're getting at but could you elaborate?
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>>727751864
Monsters were doomed to suffer underground forever by a monster, specifically a Dreemurr, marrying a human. Now Asriel, Asgore's son, has fallen in love with a human girl. There's no way Asgore wouldn't make the connection.
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>>727751039
Asgore is a an anagram for the Latin word Aegros, meaning troublesome, anxious, sad, or difficult,

Hmm. The latin world Callidus means clever, shrewd, crafty, and sly and usually refers to schemers.

Maybe Lucilda, its not a perfect anagram as it is missing the s but it sounds pretty female if you pronounce the C like an S, also sounds similar to Lucifer. Or I could forgo trying to make it an anagram and call her Callidia.
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>>727751957
Oh yeah, if you want to interpret Chara and Asriel's relationship that way, that could really be perfect irony and paralleling. I will admit that my idea of this Character, while mostly serving as an anti-Toriel, is a bit of an anit-Chara as well, because she is a Monster that really doesn't like monsters (not hate like Chara does with humanity, just dislike) and prefers humans instead.
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>>727751989
>Aegros,
It also sounds similar to aegagrus, which is the latin name for wild goat

So is Lucidia sort of a Queen type?
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>>727752260
Yes, like I said that I imagine her being an "evil stepmother/evil queen" type of character reminiscent of classic disney archetypes, but instead of being evil she's just power-hungry and ambitious. I'd say maybe it has something to do with "boss monster" instincts maker her act that way but given how unambitious and benevolent Asgore and Toriel are that probably doesnt work to well. If you know your history then you can think of her as somone like Empress Theodora of the Byzantine Empire, with her husband being the Justinian. She brings out the tyrant in him too.
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>>727752076
>is a bit of an anit-Chara as well
That was my thought process when choosing a name for Racter. Though not in a relationship with his own race sense, but instead a relationship with the player sense. Though I guess he does end up being both de facto, since his own race is constantly trying to kill him, and his only friend left in the world is (you), a human.

On the subject of Lucilda, the way you describe her makes me think she's like Freeman from Freeman's Mind, being this mildly unhinged sociopathic egomaniac, who thinks everyone except her is an idiot, and most of the time she's right. Her husband just happens to be the right kind of high functioning autist to operate on her wavelength, so he's basically the only person she enjoys being around.
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>>727752520
I meant Queen as the main villain of Chapter 2 of Deltarune.
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>>727752520
Oh and for the record the Deltarune version of Lucidia (I think im keeping that name) would be pretty different and akin to what i said here >>727746159

If anything the two different versions of them would probably try to kill each other in a catfight or something. One is a composed queen and the other is a im thinking is the type of woman to still wear leather jackets in her 50s. A character that would frankly be the most changed due to living in different time periods.
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>>727752717
Well maybe her Deltarune self, would be a bit like Queen, but if Queen could say swears and was more punk rock or something. Lucidia would also be a person who enjoys Drinking and Driving like her dear brother Asgore, only she probably does it on a motorcycle
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>>727752727
Now she just sounds like Dess 2.
>>727752897
contrary to what the memes tell you, that's more of a Toriel thing
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>>727752678
>Her husband just happens to be the right kind of high functioning autistic to operate on her wavelength, so he's basically the only person she enjoys being around.

I like to assume assume the Intro Human/Human King is basically a much more competent adult Kris (I mean it's a common theory that he is ancestor of most red soul humans, such as Frisk and Chara) that is burdened with ruling a very tumultuous and chaotic race such as humanity. He has many odd quirks his wife finds endearing and probably is a human of few words (but nowhere near as much of an -_- as Frisk and Kris). He himself has nothing against monsters and never wanted the war but due to his wife manipulating both him and their people about "the true threat of monsters" he had no choice. By the time he’s realized his wife has been playing him since before they were even married he frankly doesn't even care much because he just loves her that much. Honestly there is another inverse there I just noticed, that it's kinda like an opposite snowgrave, where the monster woman manipulates a human man that can be considered their lover to get stronger and do things for them. Only this one has more free will because Lucilda has the help of a player, she’s just really manipulative and sexy, and that boss monster pussy has the Human King acting unwise.
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>>727753023
>Now she just sounds like Dess 2.
Fuck your a bit right, she does sound like Dess if she was a burnt out Boomer hag. Not that thats a bad thing, but I do see it lacks some originality. Oh and yes I know toriel is the drinker of the senpai but i just wanted to reference the funny meme.
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>>727753452
>Human/Human King is basically a much more competent adult Kris
I assume you don't mean that literally. It would be weird for her husband in one universe to be her nephew in another.

>(I mean it's a common theory that he is ancestor of most red soul humans, such as Frisk and Chara
First I'm hearing of it.

>that it's kinda like an opposite snowgrave,
Or a regular Kris x Dess Knight

> because Lucilda has the help of a player
So do you mean her husband is a player, or he is controlled by a player like Kris?
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>>727753589
The better meme is that Toriel got blackout drunk, ran over Dess on purpose, and Asgore took the blame. Toriel hated all those impure thoughts she was putting in her son's head, she is a very scornful person, and a known drunkard. Plus there's that Toriel variable that turns the black monster into a black deer in Mantle.
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>>727753589
Btw this is what i'd imagine a deltarune version of Lucilda look like but older. (this character is called Lucy and made by the artist Hladilnik, honestly what A neat coincidence in name)

Honestly i dont know if Lucilda should have white fur or black fur. The black flur works besides the baphomet reference in that she basically would be the black sheep of the Dreemurr family but I do admit I've always preferred white fur for goatmoms.
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>>727730278
Is it sequel to ds version?
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>>727753737
>I assume you don't mean that literally. It would be weird for her husband in one universe to be her nephew in another.

Dont worry, not literally. In Deltarune the equivalent to the Human King might just be Ares/Varik, not Kris bcause he is Deltarune's Chara+Frisk. Frankly ive always imagined the human leader in Undertale to just be basically the protag from the Brandish series. So dont worry im not intrested in making any pairings that are incestous
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>>727753857
>she basically would be the black sheep of the Dreemurr family
It keeps happening, gote hive mind

> I've always preferred white fur for goatmoms.
I guess that's one area where we differ, since a big reason I made Wiki black was because of how much I liked Ralsei's black design. I even have her the kind of ear fluff that he had before getting the ugly club ears.
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>>727749871
>Teleportation in science fiction tends to rely on a materialist perspective where you're the sum of all the molecules that make you up. If you're taken apart and put back together, like a machine, you're still you. Or, at least you're an indistinguishable copy of yourself with your memories.
I was specifically referring to the Tron digitizer because it turns whatever you use it on from normal matter into light, or vice versa, while also being actual transference instead of just copying, as seen in multiple different parts of the series. So my logic was that based on how the digitizer works, it'd technically just be beaming out light, which then turns into whatever material thing it was after it's all gathered together, so maybe you could beam a monster out past the barrier.
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>>727754062
What if Kris is actually Varik and Lucy's kid, but they didn't want to keep him, so they gave him to Asgore and Toriel at birth (possibly after being talked out of an abortion by them)? That could be where Kris's red eyes which conspicuously match his parents' come from.
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>>727754098
Another fun fact btw. I like to think she isnt much of a fan of the "traditional robes" bearing the Deltarune, or much of a fan of the Monster Religion that worships the Angel (shocking i know). Not that say she'd be an atheist, just that she probably views tha Angel as a being not worth worshipping at all. (Also she probably finds the idea of a non-binary deity who's religion has no concept of sin to be cringe and gay.)
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>>727754226
Monsters aren't made of normal matter though, and souls aren't either.
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>>727754324
I see nothing stating the digitizers are limited to baryonic matter, so whatever monsters are made of is probably fine.
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>>727754312
Wait, Hladilnik's Lucy is a Deltarune OC?

> Not that say she'd be an atheist, just that she probably views tha Angel as a being not worth worshipping at all
>the satan goat OC is actually a christian
That'd be pretty funny
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>>727754282
That actually is something I really wanted to make happen and it was one of my first thoughts when considering a Deltarune version of Lucidia(the semantics of a child born of a human and mosnter be damned). But right now I find it a bit problematic becuase I do not think they'd abandon their child at all. Asgore and Toriel raising Kris would have to require both Lucidia and Varik to be dead or in position where the cannot raise their child... like being in Prison.
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>>727736912
Well, submissions to this seem to have died down, so I'll be locking them in now.
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>>727744302
These are the ones that caught my eye one way or another, so these are the ones I'll be doing.
I hope to have these delivered before the end of the year, but like I said, we'll see what happens.
And again, I'm no Sig, so temper your expectations a bit.
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>>727754485
>Wait, Hladilnik's Lucy is a Deltarune OC?
Nah this is just a gag cause she's a goat, and Toriel is popular. Hladilnik's Lucy is part of her own thing for years
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>>727754396
I don't know, something about monsters and the barrier being magic tells me this wouldn't work. Magic tends to have that "nuh uh" factor that doesn't let you get around it like science does. Plus you have monsters that can teleport like Sans and Gerson, yet they can't escape the Underground.
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>>727754721
I dunno, Gaster was messing around with some pretty out there science stuff, and he sure isn't in the underground anymore.
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>>727743536
*the nature of monsters that causes them to immediately submit to a more dominant human?
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>>727754542
If they are as irresponsible, selfish, and free spirited as you say, it seems totally in character to me. More in character than keeping the kid. If Luci is meant to be this evil leather jacket wearing atheist bitch archetype, she would absolutely be the type to do that, or to just kill the child before birth as most of women like that often do.

Maybe Varik was in jail for being a man of action in a world of words, but a few weeks before he got locked up he accidentally knocked her up, Luci was already against the idea of being a mother, let alone a single mother. So she wanted to avoid that outcome one way or another.
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>>727754787
He not anywhere anymore. He just left reality.
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>>727754485
>>the satan goat OC is actually a christian
Yes, but more so a followerwhatever the Tobyverse human religion equivalent it. In both Deltarune in Undertale ive always headcannoned that the two religions are related but with vastly different interpretations. See I dunno if Toby did it on purpose but the entire religion of the Angel is legitimately Satanic. A big red flag in Christianity is that if an Angel asks for worship of itself instead of God then it is a Fallen Angel, that coupled with the entire thing about the religion not believing in sin and it being the religion of a race of beings called the monsters and it paints a pretty apparent picture. I’d like to think that in both Undertale and Deltarune humans view the Angel as a Luciferian figure that betrayed God, the creator of the Universe and Mankind. The Angel, to spite God and create its own followers created monsterkind, but due to being an imperfect creator compared to God who cannot create beings of flesh and blood out of clay, all of the Angel’s creations molded from clay dried and dissolved to dust. In order to keep his creations alive he imbued them with Magic. And thus Monsters were created. On the other side I’d think Monsters think that the Angel created everything and that the Human God does not exist or is just the twisted human interpretation of the Angel and the narrative the humans created just exists to slight monsters.

Also what is the Heaven of a Fallen Angel if not Hell? The Angel has always been very sus imo.
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>>727754312
I now need a version of this with Wiki and Luci
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>>727755058
Look, if the objective of his experiments was to find a way to not be in the underground anymore, he succeeded, asking for him to actually be *somewhere* on top of that is just getting greedy.
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>>727755134
I'm in the "Angel varies based on route" camp. The angel isn't a god, its just a being of incredible power thats of great importance to the prophecy. Maybe one of the cast becomes the angel, maybe (you) are the angel. Whatever it is, its not just a being that is literally just the angel and nothing else.

I like to think Christianity exists in Deltarune because of that cross monster kid wears. I know he was made to be a Delta Runist in Chapter 4, but I can IMAGINE whatever I want. Plus those Christian sayings have to come from somewhere. I just like the idea of a monster following a religion that's meant for humans, despite a dedicated monster religion existing.

Going along with that, I don't think DR Christianity would call monsters demons or creations of satan, it wouldn't put that much stock in the power of any such entity. It would say that monsters are God's creations just like anything else (even if that decision was only made by a medieval pope because he wanted more members for convent)
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>>727755182
he didn't cross the barrier thoughbeit
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>>727755134
The irony of someone dressed like this looking at someone like Toriel dressed in he church clothes and calling them a demon worshiper is hilarious. Then again you'd be suprised at how many actual goth and punk rock dressing folk are legitimately religious, and not in the "wiccan witchcraft for girls" kinda way.
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>>727755525
Maybe The Angel is considered the patron angel for Monsters, like how Archangel Michael and Gabriel are patron saints for some churches and nations. Its just they took that a bit to far with their worship. Plus I mean it'd make sense for a race as well known for being creatively bankrupt when it comes to naming things to just call their patron angel "The Angel".
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>>727746097
Y'know, with this talk about Lucilda in the Deltarune universe, what would Wiki be up to?
Tangentially related to the topic of Oldentale characters in Deltarune, in SURVEY I'm half considering having Toriel go back to her maiden name after the divorce, and I'd like to reference what it is in Oldentale (Capri, I think). Would you be alright with that, and is this concept even a good idea?
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>>727755954
I think that would be fine, I didnt even know your Oldentale gave Toriel a pre-marriage name. Thats pretty cool.
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>>727755954
>what would Wiki be up to?
Game warden or park ranger. She doesn't see the rest of the family much, not since she and Toriel had that fight back 201X.

>Would you be alright with that,
Hey man, everything in Oldentale is public domain (at least all the stuff that doesn't belong to Toby) you can use whatever you want, however you want, you don't even have to ask.

> and is this concept even a good idea?
I don't see why it wouldn't be. It'd be a fun nod, and fits with canon, since Toriel went back to her maiden name in Undertale as well.

Her maiden name is Capra by the way
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>>727756142
>your
That's SURVEY_anon you're replying to, SURVEY2 is a different game from Oldentale with a different dev.
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>>727755559
No, but he did circumvent it, which is just as good when it comes to the goal of not being in the underground anymore.
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>>727735007
Kanako travels back in time to rape her father for raping her but it causes time loop since traumatised chujin rapes his daughter because she reminds him about mysterious female fox who raped him who IS his daughter but from future
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>>727758512
Yellowhock Rapefinite
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>>727733556
I feel like I'd get more out of it if I had played Earthbound.
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>>727758760
what
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>>727760954
There's always a rapehouse...
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>>727753589
>Fuck your a bit right, she does sound like Dess if she was a burnt out Boomer hag.
welcome to the problem all devanons eventually face, incidentally recreating Undertale/Deltarune characters
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>>727762534
Maybe?
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>>727748063
>Yeah I DID not expect to encounter some dude who had similar ideas that also has his own art of his character.
Are you new to these threads? Oldentale anon appeared a year ago and he is one of the devanons, we have an archive of the playable builds of the fangames too

https://rentry.org/mtt-fangames
Keep in mind that out of these only Deltarune Yellow is a fangame with battles and a overworld, SURVEY and Oldentale are test prototypes and Naranja is a single battle fangame
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>>727758760
BioShock infinite
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>>727740887
Would cuddle on the couch with her. Would cuddle AND kiss her cheek after sending Clover to bed.
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>>727766131
Starlo...
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Foxes in space.

Would continue my playthrough but Kanako's body is now a big red [X] and I can't figure out why.
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>>727766747
I can see her fat fucking tip anon
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>>727766747
>filename
Odd.
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up on the house top, Roba's paws.
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Damnit, we were so close there.
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>>727722164
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'nako + 'lover = nakolover
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>>727770780
Imagine DRY1 roba having a nightmare like this and having no idea what it means
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>>727762534
https://www.corvidscorner.shop/category/undertale-yellow
Only if I buy a Kanako plush with it
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>>727724453
the conclusion is true but his arguments are dogshit
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>>727730648
Only old models of the Switch can be hacked unless something changed recently, and porting Yellow just to emulate it on a platform that can run it natively would be silly.
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>>727773487
I think new models can if you use a modchip
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>>727773427
Then he do a mating press
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>>727775573
No!
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>>727722164
Le Fox Mom did nothing wrong
>Leaves the equivalent of a bottle of poison out and her kid drinks it
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>>727722164
So you can imagine them being fixed with headpats.
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>>727776226
It's the natural follow-up to a confession.
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>>727771021
That's the end goal, yes.
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>>727726360
If the game is implying that the big spoon-looking amalgamate in the labs is her, then the most characterization we get from her is in UT where she tucks Frisk in and pats him on the head.
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>>727773427
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>>727731958
Hell I'd still hit it
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Still thinking of that UT Castlevania fangame someone suggested, where pacifism is REALLY HARD because you have to avoid killing any of the monsters by jumpkicking/sliding around them.
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>>727777639
it's a guy
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Well why don't you tell us op because you are the dev
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>>727745060
They THINK the water gives their body form and shape, so it does.
Yes, it really is that simple.
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>>727778291
that barely changes anything for most people in this fanbase
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>>727773427
clover immediately folding once a parental figure presents themselves is a cute character trait
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>>727778650
its endearing and sad
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>>727736083
>Even other people who take up the name and alternate universe versions of him die with zero victories.
Original timeline Kuai Liang did pretty well for himself, making up with Scorpion and taking control of the Lin Kuei as its new grandmaster. I guess he comes off as a bitch in Shaolin Monks but I don't consider that game canon (moreso for the damage it does to Kung Lao, which carried over to the new timeline, but I digress)
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>>727778650
and the reason why Flowey gets increasingly annoyed with Gunhat.
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What if Flowey stopped being such a cunt?
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>>727779249
He does if you're named "Chara".
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>>727779249
He wouldn't be Flowey.
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>>727779974
imagine how much drinking she does
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>>727780415
I would rather imagine a world where clover came back and she got a second chance to not let herself down.
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>>727780652
Something I haven't seen anyone mention his how the justice soul's death couldn't have happened that long ago since their stuff was found recently by Catti and Bratty in the dump
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>>727731868
the art bothers me but I dont get "bad vibes" from it. I'm curious enough to see if theres more at least
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>>727780815
it gets brought up somewhat frequently but the devs kind of forced yellow into being "too close" to the events of undertale
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>>727780815
Why would "it was found recently" = "it ended up there recently"?
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>>727780948
how much trash falls in the underground if Clover's thing spent years in that dump before being found? there must be more people in the Underground besides Alphys, Bratty and Catti who search for stuff on the dump
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>>727722164
Pedo game
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>>727781079
starlo became a cowboy fan when he found westerns in the dump
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>>727780532
Sadly that's fanfiction even for fanfiction.
The kind that makes people create fangames for this fangame like Red & Yellow
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>>727780815
It really does go to show that Genocide was the right option
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>>727781079
There are monsters living near the trash area, like Mad Dummy and Undyne. And the water flow can make things shift and move around.
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>>727780652
>>727780815
No really why was Clover's stuff in the dump
Did they really snatch his soul and just throw whatever was left right into the trash
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>>727782570
have you not seen the pacifist ending? for all of its flaws, it DOES explain this. hell the comic directly references what happened
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>>727783480
My only takeaway from the pacifist ending was "Wow everyone here is an asshole and it's shocking Monsters have any kids at all that don't die from drinking poison or whatever".
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Is Chujin homophobic?
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>>727784810
No, he's homoerotic
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>>727784882
Makes sense.
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>>727782251
how is red and yellow comparable to that sort of thing?
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>>727786080
>>727784810
>saw new kanaclover art after days without any
>it is girl clover and has tumblr artstyle
the search continues...
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Forget about Red&Yellow
give me Green&Purple
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>>727782251
if anything, I feel the mandate of heaven is with me when IMAGINING a different route for already existing IMAGINING. I will imagine a happy ending for them all
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>>727787456
I've commissioned some but still waiting on it.
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>>727755954
I like the idea of the fangames from here referencing each other
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>>727787495
there is a purple + blue fangame in the works and has a demo, its called kindred spirits
there is also an orange + green one but that one seems to still be looking for volunteers
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>>727787681
That's nice, but I want my daily dose.
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>>727787681
This one doesn't align with UTY's canon so I'm not interesed on it
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>>727777639
Of course you would, he's the (self proclaimed) most beautiful monster alive.
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>>727779249
We had a whole game about that.
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>>727782251
Those coffins are all empty at the end of Undertale.
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>>727787456
For me it's the opposite problem. There's barely any fem KanaClover art.
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>>727787967
UTY doesn't even align with UT canon, but if you want a game that follows UTY then check UT promise, which is integrity's story before UTY, it has a demo
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>>727781540
This image is inaccurate because they're both retarded
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>>727788097
What game?
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>>727784810
maybe in the faggot in denial way
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>>727788424
even stupid people cry sometimes
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>>727788424
>>727788539
i find dumbroba both slanderous and absolutely hilarious
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>>727788694
dumb but with a lot of love to give, which fits the whole cast except dalv because he doesn't exist, but still.
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>>727788438
Maybe you've heard of it
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>>727788253
is chara's face there a reference to something?
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>>727788539
She'd be crying while trying to drink the rain.
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>>727788329
Cute girl.
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>>727788839
I feel like it must be, I keep posting it honestly hoping someone calls out whatever reference it must be
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>>727788790
>flowey not being a cunt
>In his debut game where he was a major cunt.
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>>727788756
i need to draw dalv more he's one of my top favorites
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>>727788329
Smugnako, my beloved
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>>727788917
I honestly can't argue with that
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>>727788990
The whole game is about him ceasing to be a cunt.
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>>727789001
I dont dislike him, but if it weren't for the 5 people that draw him I genuinely would forget he exists
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>>727789142
>image
How old do you think Dalv is?
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>>727789142
people also for some unfathomable reason draw him as rotund when in game hes not, and vampires in general are depicted as slender
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>>727789142
figures as i made that one
>>727789256
i headcanon him as in his early 20s but i wouldn't be surprised if vampire rules apply to him
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Somehow...Clover reutnrdjsks
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>>727788329
They gave their integrity design a really ugly hairstyle
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>>727763761
Ive havent visited the yelow threads for a good long while.
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>>727789430
are you also the person that ships those two? because then you'd also be one of the only people that draws honeydew shopkeeper
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>>727787495
Why does this look like a fnaf thing lol
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>>727787456
What? There’s plenty of masculine Clover x Kanako unless if you consider anything less rough looking than Signirsol Clover or Cole as gay or some shit
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>>727790079
I was referring to new art, but here. don't tell me I didn't warn you
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>>727790079
Speaking of, I wonder how Sig is doing.
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>>727724453
>All this seething over a free to play full length passion project
Everyone has to be a critic
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>>727790175
Eh, there's worse artstyles out there.
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>>727790695
being a critic itself is fine. we talk about all the things we like and especially the things we dislike about the game all the time. these people have just gone to next level autism. they need moral justification to dislike things so they get behind google docs of half strung nonsense
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>>727755134
You struck gold with this one.
>>727755873
This is a bit less inherently conflict-heavy however. Monster society in general is just a wackier version of America which is Christian at its core, so the "they are actually satanists" twist doesn't really work. Even if you go by the concept of almost all false religions having been set up by fallen angels, for Deltarunism don't see that divergence like you get with Hinduism, Buddhism or Islam.
>>727788253
I can't get over how Clover has Habbo Hotel proportions.
>>727789430
Cute art, anon. These two characters are neglected.
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>>727788253
Picture how it must feel to be in stasis for 4 years or so and still not have any parents.
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>>727787495
Thanks Doc.
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>>727791625
the parents-to-be have to go through a redemption arc to earn that right first. kids gotta wait just a little longer
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>>727789035
round bitch
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>>727792441
its a virtue in this circumstance
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>>727790175
She has baby doll eyes
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>>727792558
no one being should be that round
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>>727792714
you can't stop her.
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>>727792824
he wrote a synopsis for a story idea but I don't think many anons liked it since it got pretty much no replies
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>>727755873
I prefer his idea of people thinking of "the angel" as being this luciferian figure, I just don't think they would give it the credit for creating the monsters.
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>>727789257
Imagine he somehow loses his shirt, and he has the physique of Castlevania Alucard.
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>>727792865
He should try again. Sometimes you just get unlucky and your post gets buried or readerfags aren't online. Yeah it feels selfish to pitch the same idea multiple times but that's just what you gotta do.
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>>727793012
I was talking about the synopsis on the /vrpg/ thread, on the UTY thread it was mostly people complaining that kris didn't fit so he replaced him with melody (since it is in a DRY like setting)
though sad that kanako isn't much of a factor in it
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>>727793201
I'm that anon and I'm not Sig. I just liked his art so I decided to use it for that post. Today I came up with some ideas for comedic moments, but I'm still thinking about major plot details. Cole is going up against a serious gang and will have to resort to violence at some point. I'm wondering how far I should take it and how different characters would react to his choices.
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>>727793604
well I am kinda interested so let's see how it goes
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>>727791625
Honestly, it's kind of poetic. Everyone around you has arcs, despair, development, even therapy - and you're just chilling in digital cryo, plot-deviced into irrelevance. At that point, not having parents is just the cherry on the cake of narrative neglect. Maybe in Chapter 5 we’ll get a cutscene of a locker creaking open and it’s just Noelle’s dad holding a “#1 Mom” mug and a mid-2000s camcorder.
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>>727793769
you know, when someone names themselves just directly after one of the characters in a game it complicates finding shit
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>>727793769
for some reason, the thumbnail on this image makes it look like Chujin is sticking his tongue out
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>>727794215
>. Maybe in Chapter 5 we’ll get a cutscene of a locker creaking open and it’s just Noelle’s dad holding a “#1 Mom” mug and a mid-2000s camcorder.
Huh?
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>>727793769
I want to slather the story in references to westerns and noir films since it's in-character for Cole, but also because it's funny and this isn't a serious work of literature. Having grown up around monsters Cole would be committed to his bit, while Melody who is a more down-to-earth human would question his autism.
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>>727779176
All Flowey had to do was be the dad that stepped up and we could have avoided this mess
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>>727794327
the compression added a few red pixels around his mouth

>>727794531
wish it had more kanaclover so I'd be more invested into it
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>>727794921
The weed is stuck at the edgy teenager phase, he could NEVER be the dad that stepped up.
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>>727795210
I think she should come back midway. She and Melody will have a rivalry at least at the start. It's nearly impossible to have two females and one male in a group without one, and on top of that they have very different personalities.
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>>727795210
Is this an AU were Roba is dead instead or something?
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>>727789631
yes
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>>727782570
Also they just fucking leave Clover's body where it drops, so some poor bastard in New Home is gonna have a really fucked up mess to clean when it starts stinking up the place
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Where's Return to Form, Sig?
Stop drawing that fox twink from Megabonk, even though it was hot.
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>>727796463
shine on you crazy diamond
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>>727796602
he has been in the megabonk threads?
damn I missed out on the art, hope people are uploading it to e6
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>>727797576
I looked it up and he has a drawing of the megabonk fox in e6, but the drawing has no source, so it might have been uploaded by Sig himself
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>>727780947
This pic makes Starlo look too badass for someone who is barely relevant in the story
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>>727799548
he's a pretty cool guy all things said.
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What exactly is the point of Starlo. This might as well have been the Mart and Roba show.
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>>727799759
>martroba
im GOONING oaaaaaagghhhh
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>>727799759
He exists to be Clover's monster parallel but an adult. While Martlet fills the role as being the Toriel and Papyrus of Yellow, Starlo is more of Papyrus and Undyne.
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>>727799714
Would he be a better lover to Ceroba than Chujin (especially in bed)?
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>>727801076
I dont like to think of comparisons like that, and any story that talks about starroba I prefer it not touch on chujin
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>>727796543
I like to think they had the decency to at least put him in the yellow heart coffin.
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>>727799548
I hate saying it but Starlo is SUCH wasted potential. The finale should have been the gunfight with him regardless if its genocide or not. 'Roba be damned.
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>>727799548
That’s the curse of good character design in a game that doesn't give them enough screentime. Dude pulls up in one cutscene looking like he’s about to solo a boss rush and then vanishes for hours while Mart and Roba hog the whole damn narrative. Justice for Starlo desu.
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>>727802425
>Justice for Starlo t b h
AGREED
Should have been him that gets all the Clover Adoption fanart.
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>>727722164
Finally played this after seeing threads over and over. Pacifist route because I'm not a bastard.
The devs should have just had Clover land in the Dunes because there are no characters and nothing interesting until Wild East. Including Mart too because even though she was introduced in Snowdin she was boring until Dunes.
The end of the pacifist route was a massive cop-out. What a waste of the rest of the ending; it feels like the author got lost while making the game and the (pretty good) story of the pacifist route and totally forgot Clover had to die. Starlo was the best character and his sell a gun to this child line was the funniest joke in the game.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
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>>727804228
>The devs should have just had Clover land in the Dunes because there are no characters and nothing interesting until Wild East. Including Mart too because even though she was introduced in Snowdin she was boring until Dunes.
I agree
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>>727804228
>his sell a gun to this child line was the funniest joke in the game.
honestly yeah the wild east really grabbed me. I like martlet a lot but I only really got bird rot after looking back at the character and how she acts across the different routes. coming to realize how badly she failed her own morals and values in the pacifist ending by just letting clover kill himself after recontextualizing her from the other routes made me like the character a lot more. it may just be because knowing "who she is" I can confidently say both she and starlo would not have done what they do at the end of pacifist
that said everything up until after cerobas fight in the pacifist ending was really good. Starlo trying to stand up to her was great, martlet trying to whisk clover away, the scream during the final phase, they were working with something and then they dropped the ball and forgot what the characters would actually do
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>>727804228
clover could have entered through waterfall and then go straight to the dunes, but unfortunately yellow was made in that era where every fangame just repeated the same areas (and where most died before finishing snowdin)
also I really wanted the wild east to have sidequests or some optional content where you could spend more time there, when I saw the fast travel system unlock right after it I really thought we'd get that, but nope, there isn't even a reason to use the system at all
anyway did the ending make you want to save the fox girl?
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>>727805219
do we know felix and sirra's deal yet
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>>727804813
It took me a few days to get through everything until Wild East because the game was failing to grab me at all. Once I got to Wild East today I stuck with it until done because the game suddenly gets good, as I described.
>>727804986
There was so much time spent in Wild East compared to everything before I was expecting there to be a lot more, maybe something like in Undertale where beating the game's forced neutral ending unlocks a bunch of stuff for pacifist. I would have not minded spending more time in Wild East.
>anyway did the ending make you want to save the fox girl?
I figured she was dead after hearing she went to the lab and I was not looking forward to a scene where Ceroba finds her chimera-fied. Her fate was still awful but at least it wasn't as bad as I was thinking, because I was imagining a game where the last part is the lab and everyone just gets slaughtered in it.
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>>727805402
no but they are usually paired together so I hope there is something going on
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>>727804813
>>727805470
Oh yeah, and even not having done the other routes everything about the pacifist ending is very forced. After all that, none of the characters would decide to give up and let Clover die. Very bad ending and I'm surprised Yellow has a fan base after seeing it, but the rest of the game is very high quality
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>>727801076
>in beed
Roba seems to hate cowboy roleplaying, so I don't think she'd enjoy it in bed.
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>>727805470
>I figured she was dead after hearing she went to the lab and I was not looking forward to a scene where Ceroba finds her chimera-fied. Her fate was still awful but at least it wasn't as bad as I was thinking, because I was imagining a game where the last part is the lab and everyone just gets slaughtered in it.
saving kanako was a big thing people wanted, so much many of the fangames people here are making were due to that one thing

>>727805620
agreed, if you want a better rewrite, try the shades of justice mod, it really fixes a lot of the game's shortcomings
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>>727805620
>I'm surprised Yellow has a fan base after seeing it,
That's the thing, part of the reason why these threads still exist is because the pacifist ending sucked so much people started making fanfics fixing it and one guy started making a fangame with the intention of it being a more complete pacifist ending, that in turn motivated others to develop their own fangames too
4chan's UTY fanbase exist BECAUSE of the edning was that bad
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>>727805503
I remember seeing some dialogue implying Felix had some knowledge regarding dark worlds and sirra is some sort of "trickster" so all I can really guess is they haven't known each other very long and are completing some sort of mission
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>>727805916
does shades of justice do anything about the pacifist ending
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>>727805620
>I'm surprised Yellow has a fan base after seeing it
its because of exactly what you said. they did enough other things right, and almost everyone agrees that none of the characters would have let that happen, and you get a good alternate angle of some of the characters personalities in the different routes (mostly martlets, and a little bit starlo/ceroba) but that is one thing that people loved about undertales different routes so they still overall executed a surprisingly good game.
its a case of "we love it despite its flaws"
I've got an autistic obsession with stories focusing on clover coming back to life post ut pacifist and seeing how the cast coped with realizing they let a child kill himself, and having some sort of redemption. its a powerful autism
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>>727805958
it doesn't fix it completely but it fixes one glaring flaw with how it played out IF that was going to happen they all stay with clover in his final moments holding him as he dies making it a lot more emotional than "aight bye kid have fun dying"
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>>727806341
>spoiler

holy PEAK another win for shades of justice
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>>727740445
>>727736912
Art sample?
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>>727805470
>I was not looking forward to a scene where Ceroba finds her chimera-fied
>because I was imagining a game where the last part is the lab and everyone just gets slaughtered in it
So were you thinking amalgako was going to be the final boss, and was going to kill all the main cast to explain why they don't appear in Undertale?
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>>727806571
its already absurd that the cast just lets clover die, but that they just walk away to let him die alone is even further out of character. Especially for ceroba, she may be retarded but she's still a mother, I dont think she would "ask" clover if she could stay with him as he died
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>>727799759
You say this because you can’t goon to him
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>>727805916
>so much many of the fangames people here are making were due to that one thing
Hearing "the game forces (emphasis on force) you to die tragically at the last minute to comply with canon" was a big inspiration for me when writing my game.
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>>727805219
She looks like a rabbit slut
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>>727806717
More or less. Characters kept talking about the lab so I figured we were going there and I know how bad it is down there from Undertale, but also know that it being bad means that Clover didn't put everything down in Undertale Yellow.
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>>727805503
Okay the big hat thing is cute
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>>727807565
Imagine if that had been the ending. Kanako becomes a feral abomination and murders her own mother, alongside the player, and all of his friends.
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>>727807749
Yeah. Would have still been better than what we got.
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>>727807012
It's out of character and also kind of undoes the point of the pacifist route, the point is that it's Justice to not let an entire people suffer under the yoke of decisions made long before they or you were born. It's not Justice to take that gift and simply throw it into the dumpster, literally in this case. It's a case of trying to make a square peg fit into a round narrative hole.

IMO, and I've said this before, it should have been Clover sacrificing his life to return Kanako to some semblance of normalcy. Even if it's not completely healed, at least not melting into an amalgamate. It's the perfect combination of atoning for other people's injustices, and deciding what true justice is.

And I'm NOT just saying that because I'm a huge Kanaclover fag.
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Big tail
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why are you guys still talking about this groomer game?
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>>727808067
I'm gonna have to disagree there, anon. What we got was bad, but that's so bad it would have felt like a parody.
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>>727808301
nice deleted doc buddy
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>>727808586
You're playing a bad fan game made by a bunch of child rapists. Genuinely pathetic of you.
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>>727808301
we wanted to be groomed by foxes and birds
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>>727807749
I'd prefer if kanako was just unstable and clover went into her mind to clear off the integrity infection, saving her and making the asgore ending more bittersweet

>>727808301
>>727808645
the groomer game was bits and pieces, get your shitposting updated
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>>727808230
the thing is, the game has a few different "kinds of justice" rattling around in its head, enough that they could have gone with a few different non cannon endings. clover was pulling a self sacrificing justice for all, and martlet clearly when she's actually being writte, shows an individual justice. they could have played with themes like that to counter clovers attempted sacrifice, or change the nature of the sacrifice into something like what you said.
>>727808707
its just leftover shitposting from that google doc that got deleted for being filled with lies. desperate shitposting indeed
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>>727795484
He just has to try harder.
https://youtu.be/lXtrwkdSkow
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>>727807749
>>727806717
I'm kind of glad we're on teh same page. I kind of thought it was heading toward this and heroic self sacrifice would be the pacifist ending, something like you describe would be the neutral ending, Genocide ending would end with Clover vs Asgore fade out.
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>>727808840
So what was your idea of the pacifist ending?
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>>727808707
>I'd prefer if kanako was just unstable and clover went into her mind to clear off the integrity infection, saving her and making the asgore ending more bittersweet
This is how I thought it would go as well. Like I felt Kanako was chekov's gun and it was just never fired.
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>>727809424
>So what was your idea of the pacifist ending?
Clover self-sacrifice to soothe Kanako and possibly save her the pain and torment. You could make a boss fight out of trying to suck the patience soul or shoot it out with BIG SHOTS. All the while Flowey is seething that he doesn't get any of it. Or it goes Beat Empowered Flowey Down -> Save Kanako. Either ways, it involves such dangerous Soul magic that Clover doesn't survive or is injured beyond saving. Which is Justice for Kanako and means a little bit of Clover stays with her forever, protecting her from the juice of the patience soul. Even if the two never formally meet while she's sound of mind.

Take this from someone who is a massive Kanaclover fag. Also someone who loves bittersweet, sappy endings like that.
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>>727809563
I feel like giving her a name and on screen appearances made her seem way more important than she actually was.
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>>727809974
I thought you were that guy that just finished UTY
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>>727809419
DO NOT OPEN THIS
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>>727810004
kanako was literally created to add sympathy points for roba because dead kid, still baffling none of the devs thought otherwise in the 7 years it took to finish the game, all they had to do was just make her very devoted to chujin and not mention kanako at all
and I'm glad the fandom is trying to fix her and give her the JUSTICE she deserves
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>>727810119
you know, normally I do just skip out on catbox links, because whenever I do click on them it ends up being something like that
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>>727810004
I feel she SHOULD be important. The fact she isn't is a huge loss.

>>727810115
Oh no, different person.

>>727810289
I feel as if you just don't like Kanako very much. She's not dead, she's something worse, and that's what people don't find satisfying about the ending. But even then, it means two dead kids as the pacifist ending, which doesn't really match the game's story of "There are more options than kill or be killed".
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>>727810530
>>727810289
>I feel as if you just don't like Kanako very much
Sorry I quoted the wrong post. What I mean to say is that she's not dead but fixing her should have been the main point of the story.
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>>727810608
I still hold that the song being "a mothers love" and the way ceroba said "it would take a miracle to save her" indicates that despite saying she's given up hope, she hasn't actually given up hope until the mask is shattered. the symbolism seems too clear.
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>>727810702
The symbolism seemed way too clear and that's what felt so strange about the ending. I'd like to see if the developers actually intended this to be the ending all along or if this was a decision that goes along with a project that was just looking for an ending instead of a conclusion
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>>727810970
I really get the idea that, they were working with a series of ideas, and kind of just forced it to be a "cannon compliant" ending after writing the openings for a lot of plot points. considering they were also kids when making it, they basically feature crept the story then closed all the doors really quickly. of course thats part of what has allowed our autism to flourish
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What if Kanako could only be saved in the Genocide ending?
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>>727811292
Would they pull a Chariel?
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>>727811292
Clover exterminates dozens of monsters and then saves a random monster girl because...?
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>>727811526
they sent each other reels on Monstagram
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>>727811526
Because they thought she was pretty cute :)
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>>727811526
I actually had a dream about that once, where she was still an amalgam and was adopted by some moth thing, clover returned to the underground specifically to find kanako and "save" her, thought it wasnt explained why
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>>727811461
You mean a monster and human soul fusion? I can see that.
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>>727811526
The one-drop rule. Kanako has human juice in her so she's worth saving
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Alright, I know I said I'd already closed submissions for this time around, but I took four last time and I only took three this time, so if anyone has any new ideas they wanna throw my way for one last request for this time, I'm all ears.
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>>727811292
Considering what all the adults did to these children: That's Justice too.
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>>727811943
Fanart?
Starlo and Clover having the lamest high-noon standoff ever over snacks.
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>>727811526
Never ask a human supremacist the race of their girlfriend.
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>>727811526
It'd make more sense if Clover learned about what happened to Kanako and the labs, then realize this has happened more than once.
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So why does Flowey have save/load powers when I thought any human would usurp them upon landing underground?
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>>727811943
I would still like something peaceful with zenith martlet and clover
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>>727812221
UTY was made when people still thought the other humans couldn't save and load so they justified saving ingame by using Flowey. In-universe you can just headcanon that Clover has the least determination of all the fallen humans I guess.
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>>727812382
This would also explain why Clover folds like a chair when they see someone who treats them like a child.
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>>727811526
kindred spirits
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>>727811630
Can you describe the moth thing? What was he/she like?
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>>727811941
There's gonna be a lot more than a drop of human juice in her once Clover's done with her.
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>>727812714
it was mostly a dark blue moth creature with red glowing eyes, for some reason it was protecting amalgako. it was shaped like a rounded upwards triangle
I'm pretty sure it was female
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>>727812812
they are both like 10 years old
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>>727812881
Kanako was adopted by mothman? Mothman is a woman?
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>>727812619
A hallucination of evil Kanako telling him to kill them all would make a great halloween hack.
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>>727813102
if it happened years after clover left they could have aged by then
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>>727812812
It goes both ways
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>>727813369
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>>727813102
its gonna take a long time for him to be done with her. Years of {spoiler] innocent childood friendship [/spoiler] which leads into teenage romance and handholding until he finally proposes to her and they live a long and happy life together and have dozens of children
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>>727813284
need more aged up kanaclover takes
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>>727813271
>"kill everyone and rape the bird"
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>>727813610
*kill everyone and rape me
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you know what to do
https://files.catbox.moe/740ee4.png
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>>727813665
so the kanako hallucination is actually her communicating with clover telepathically?

>>727813754
still far from completing the bottom row
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>>727813826
She's the pretty lady in his head that calls him studmuffin
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>>727813826
>still far from completing the bottom row
Next time signirsol takes requests we need to ask him to draw a r63 starlo and Chujin
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>>727813997
hope he draws sirra someday, maybe if her demo actually releases
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>>727813754
rolling
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>>727813997
I wouldn't actually mind if that did not happen
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I humbly request your finest robas before the end
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>>727814108
I guess filling the image with genderswapped male characters would could as cheating
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>>727814193
I'm a man who likes his bird, but I know a good fox when I see one
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>>727814193
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>>727813997
I say he should draw the shadow cat girl from Fountale and that magician bunny girl from that other game
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Clover deserved to die
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>>727814583
Flowey...
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>>727814474
he could draw Luzma (fire girl from Naranja) and Kitsy (fox Belle Delphine from Oldentale)
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>>727814474
if the games actually had demos there would be a higher chance
there is also the fire girl from naranja
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>>727814671
>Kitsy (fox Belle Delphine from Oldentale)
right I forgot about her, that would be nice
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>>727813610
YES MY FOX PRINCESS
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>>727814671
Why specifically Belle Delphine?
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>>727814671
>Luzma (fire girl from Naranja)
still waiting for art of her, idk why that laughing sprite of her makes me smile too
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>>727814193
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>>727813754
CMON FOX TITS
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a quick bird interruption
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>>727814675
>>727814906
It seems like cyclops girls stocks will be on the rise
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>>727814929
fellroba is pretty nice, maybe sig should draw her
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>>727814326
>>727814264
The bunny is cute
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>>727814893
pink haired streamer with lots of simps, thats all really
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>>727815104
i like starlo's evil mustache
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>>727815169
fair enough, she probably would sell bath water if she thought people would buy it
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>>727814770
Reminder that kitsy is actually evil and a barely masked psychopth
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>>727815276
Kitsy's bath water should be a consumable item on Oldentale, drinking it would lower your hp and worsen your relationship with Racter
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>>727815276
fox girl bath water would stink bad
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>>727815580
I'm torn as to whether kitsy's bottled water would stink to appeal to degens or smell like cherry blossoms to play up her perfect image of purity
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>>727815864
>>727815432
anyway I don't think her bath water should be an item, at most there will be an npc in the river since she always does her shows near the river streams, and he will likely be bottling the water cuz kitsy stepped in the river for a bit or something, but it is treated just as a joke
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>>727740149
>You now notice the artist put way too much effort drawing Chujin's asshole in pic
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thread was alright this week
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I find it funny that the threads have been more active than ever last few weeks despite the shitposting.
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>>727816240
we are getting close to the release of some demos for several fangames
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hoping for more fic updates soon
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>>727814805
Great, now I need a picture of Kanako and Cole in CLAMP's style
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>>727816316
thats all good, I'm just saying the doom posting and shitposting was wildly out of alignment with reality
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>>727816516
that was just consequence of the drama but people already moved on to different things
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>>727813754
Let's do it
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>>727813754
Let's roll.
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>>727816612
>pic
it astounds me how much everyone was on the same wavelength in the early fandom
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>>727816054
Yeah, I don't think I'm evil enough to make Racter drink bath water.
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>>727816705
people just wanted them to have a happy ending
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>Kanako the night she gets home after giving birth
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Are we doing a second thread after this one?
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>>727816358
Same.
Kanaclover bros we won
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>>727816762
weekend is almost over and even this thread was slow for a good while, I wouldn't push it
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>>727816613
>Got mooch
Yeah



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