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King's Field 2
What a let down.
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>>727765454
I can't believe they trashed Bloodborne like that.
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>Twitter screencrap
Dismissed, everyone below is gay and retarded.
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All of them.
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All
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>>727765454
I would say that console exclusive Fromsoft titles are worse than any specific series. Fuck Sony, Fuck Nintendo
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>>727765454
Sekiro, the black sheep of the past 15 years of From games.
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>>727765454
it's looking like duskbloods will be that entry
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>>727765454
I assume it's Ninja Blade.
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so, it's the flavor of the week meme now? this picture is all over
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>>727765737
>flavor of the week meme
that's how memes work on the internet now, chuddie
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real talk:
why do people hate DS2 so much?
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>>727765454
Armored Core 6
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>>727765801
muh ludo narrative interconnected cognitive dissonance
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>>727765801
>real talk:
>retarded question that has been answered a million times since release
Uh-huh
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>>727765801
Superiority breeds contempt.
But really, I think there's three factors:

>a disappointing original release
Namely the trash lighting; SotFS re-implemented all the torch mechanics and looks / plays significantly better
>TERRIBLE early game balance, they fell for the "Dark Souls le hard" meme too much
One(1) Estus Flask charge for potentially the first few hours, EVERY enemy is in a pack, no good early shields so you always take chip damage, early rolling is shit (fucking Agility), etc.
>internet memes
People believing it's bad because they've been told it's bad.
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>>727765801
It was bad
It's bad right now
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>>727765801
It was very different from DaS1, and too many of the changes seemed to be for the worse

>le random Ornstein as your first boss
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>>727765701
>Ninja Blade
This is a really shit game and honestly I'm not sure it's a good thing that people have basically completely forgotten about it, it's kind of important the worst moments in vidya are remembered so they aren't repeated.
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>>727766136
>I was drunk
>I'm drunk right now
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>>727765514
And you know it's OP's account too.
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Is Stamper dead?
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>>727765801
Everyone replying to you is wrong and played it years later after hearing the bad sentiment going in.

The real reason was the graphical downgrade was significantly obvious and the enemy placement was no longer about challenge and more about taking you out without warning.

But overall it was the graphic downgrade that enabled the shit talking and no one was interested in defending it after that so shills and niggers got whatever narrative they wanted to stick over the years
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>>727766486
For me, I really didn't like the menus. Especially how you couldn't manually organize your inventory.
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>>727765454
Ninja Blade
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>>727765801
The combat felt weaker and less satisfying, the game looked like ass, controlled like ass, weird mechanics that most people disliked, animations were jank, enemy placement didn't feel deliberate.
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>>727765801
It looks, animates and controls like putrid dogshit.
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>>727765454
Tried playing it. The early game dungeon that's a maze surrounded by a bottomless pit where you have to rotate mirrors was so garbage that it made be drop the game for good. Then I saw the final boss on youtube and all you have to do is spam one attack for 5 minutes straight. Pokemon levels of RPG complexity but without any of the lust-provoking animals.
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>>727767251
>without any of the lust-provoking animals
It has lust-provoking music instead!
https://youtu.be/CV7p48af-yw
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>>727765801
influx of normies coming in off the hype surrounding das1 and them wanting more serious fights and not boss fights and encounters that are there as a joke
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>>727765497
You mean Kings Field 1 (US).
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>>727765454
Eternal Ring was much improved on the sequel.
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>>727766246
Your Denzel impression is getting better NL
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DS2 is audacious and retarded, you have to admire it on some level. The fact that they doubled down on stupid enemy placements in SotFS is pretty fuckin funny.
DS3 is an insane overcorrection, a cookie-cutter version of the formula that only tastelets like.
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>>727765454
Lost Kingdoms 1 & 2
Only terminally online weirdos and pedophiles like those games
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>>727765454

Ninja Blade.
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>>727765801
I'm told to hate it.
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>>727765801
because their favorite eceleb told them to in a 5 hour video essay
meanwhile the second half of dark souls 1 is just straight up garbage, dark souls 2 has shit bosses, and dark souls 3 has retarded infinite stamina rollslop mechanics
in the end they all have their strengths and weaknesses
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>>727768992
>because their favorite eceleb told them to in a 5 hour video essay
This fucking cope cracks me up. I hated DaSII pretty much immediately, long before anyone made any "5 hour video essays" about it.
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Armored Core 4
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>>727769061
you were in the minority then
most people really liked ds2 on release, even though the bosses were objectively shit
then again pvp was much more popular then than it is now and ds2 pvp was definitely its best part back then, but if you replay it now you just won't have the same experience anymore, especially with people playing the dogshit scholar version
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>>727769234
>most people really liked ds2 on release
Revisionism. /v/ was full of seethe and rage day 1.
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>>727765801
If you weren't there for it, you can't understand how damaging the graphical downgrade fiasco was.
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>>727769343
/v/ is always full of rage and seethe, they also seethe at elden ring constantly
doesn't change the fact that people loved the game back then
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>>727765454
>op literally just puts a period in the body of their post
>jannies are so shit at their job they leave it up
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>>727765454
I've only played Demon Souls and that sucked ass, fuck those cthulu priest cunts.
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>>727765454
Eternal Ring
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>>727765801
Doesn't play like Demons Souls or Dark Souls 1, which were basically the same game.
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Ha cha cha
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1765119976422079.mp4
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Anyone not saying Nightreign is a fucking retard. Even from software's worst fucking game wishes it could be as lazy and shitty as ER nightreign
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>>727765801
All of From's games that I've played have had some questionable hitboxes at times, but some of DS2's are genuinely horrifically bad.
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>>727765801

Because they never got to play Ninja Blade and because they think they're entitled to know everything about a company's games from having only played three of them at best up until that point.
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>>727765801
Several reasons
The main ones on launch were the unfulfilled promises with lighting (I'd fucking hate needing a torch to see so that was a bullet dodged)
Soul memory making reddit pvp meta a bad way to play since you'll just match with people who simply level up with their souls, making it unviable, the intention of this was to make twink ganks less feasible since it'd require account resets after so many ganks
Needing to level a stat to get good roll iframes, and the amount of iframes you get from the roll aren't said to you explicitly, making it very hard to discern when to stop
Lots of bosses feeling uninspired design wise, lots of humanoid knight type enemies
The main reason is that it's a massive bandwagon, the last quarter of ds1 is an unfinished game that people just ignore when evaluating it
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>>727765801
It has the best PVP and it's not even close. It was the last entry before invasions became a humiliation ritual.
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>>727770306
This is probably the best answer. Shovelware tech demo for KF4 plain and simple.
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>>727765801
People wanted Dark Souls 1 2 and not a sequel
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>>727765454
>There are no bad Fromsoft game
It's hilarious how many people are unaware that Fromsoft made dozens of games before Dark Souls. Ninja Blade was fucking ASS!
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>>727765454
Armored Core just isn't a strong series.
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>>727765454
Ninja Blade
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That's why they made 16 of them.
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DS2 is really fun
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>>727765801
It's forgettable, i couldn't tell you who any of the characters or locations are even if vaatividya was shouting the lore at me with a megaphone, while i know almost every enemy location and ambush from DS1, i remember Solaire wanted to become as radiant as the sun (which is an illusion casted by Gwyn's troon son), i remember Siegmeyer failing to become a legendary knight and the only only way to give him a happy ending is to let him fall in single combat against unsurmountable odds, i remember the assholes with dragon slayer bows on the roofs of anor londo.
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>>727765454
Elden shit
I don't particularly like darksouls 2 but I can see why someone might like it
With elden shit I'm sure all people who like it are newfags who played it as their first from game because muh game of thrones author
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Where do people watch this shit nowadays for FREE
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>>727773659
/co/ mega links
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>>727765454
No Wii Tenchu?
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>>727773659
unlucky I haven't watched a crumb of this season
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>>727765454
ACV
and Verdict Day too, honestly.
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i hate the mechanic where without humanity you're at half health, gay as fuck
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>>727769569
people didn't love ds2 here on release, you're fucking delusional if you don't remember the seethe threads compared to 1
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>>727765454
It's this one. Really stylish and good looking but after a bit you realize the game is basically just the same minigame over and over for a few hours. Feels like half of a game, like these levels would exist as a thing that happened every once and a while during the Metal Wolf Chaos campaign or something. But no, that's just the whole game.
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>>727773659
I just use wco
Cartoons and TV shows are easy to steal because you just watch them
Pirating isn't hard either but it's actually illegal where I'm from and I tend to avoid it
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>>727765801
The game fumbled with most of the playerbase.
>Incoherent world design and obtuse lore alienating players who heralded dark soul's interconnected world and solid lore.
>Level and enemies designed with difficulty for the sake of difficulty leading to spamming large groups, which ran contrary to the perception the playerbase had on difficulty.
>Adaptability along, slower movement, and undiscovered mechanics lead to the player base calling movement clunky.
>Soul memory completely destroying online, leading to a literal dark age of buff stacking max level helix smavels.
>Couldn't even coop because your soul bracket would outlevel the area.
No matter what part of the community you were it was bleak. Even if the game is good now it burnt almost everyone for a very long time.
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>>727765454
Armored Core 4. Miyazaki deserved the death penalty for that piece of trash fire.
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>>727765801
Because it was the last oldschool Fromsoftware game. With all their experimental bullshit and quirks that comes with it.
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eternal ring lmao
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>>727765454
Elden Ring is really the only answer, fucking hate that game. It's the only Souls game I never played again after beating it
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>>727765454
Dark souls 3 is complete dog shit.
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>>727765454
Another Century Episode R. What the hell happened? The ps2 ones were pretty nice.
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I just really fucking hate the animations. Thats it. They made every weapon feel like shit to use compared to DS1. Also the bosses suck and the level design is a downgrade.
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>like it at release
>like it now
I don't know, maybe I am more forgiving than most but nothing ever felt game breaking. Also I had Covenant of Champions turned on for my first playthrough at launch(2014), by accident. I didn't realize it until I was getting 1 shot in the Shrine of Amana(pre patch). The game got so much easier and all of the flaws I noticed went down significantly.
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Another thing people miss is that snoys went out of their way to shit on DaS2 as much as possible and hype up Project Beast, imagine Shazam trannies and DD2 but 10 times worse. Bloodborne is my GOAT but even I noticed this shit.
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>>727766486
This holy fuck
Absolutely hideous even compared to ds1, horrible hitboxes right off the bat with those big ogres, and then the first level is multiple gank squads
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>>727765801
Every single enemy placement in the game is double what it should be. Animations of enemies are complete dogshit. People who defend DS2 are the most contrarian of the contrarian. The only positive thing about it is it's probably the best pvp in the entire series.
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>>727765801
Genuine and no joke: Because of retarded youtubers that have proven over and over again that they can't play to save their lifes. This combined with that retarded lefty trying to "save" it by making everything worse. This ended up attracting right winger mouthbreathing grifters who had to dunk on the onions and you know how their followers dont think for themself.

If everyone was a bit smarter it never would've come to this
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>>727765454
Yep. Nostalgia Souls 3.
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>>727765801
It's not just the worst souls game, it's just legitimately so poorly designed that it's actually a terrible game. It also looks like shit.
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>This makes /v/ shit and piss in their pants
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>>727765454
Armored Core: Nine Breaker
I would feel so fucking gypped if I got that game when it came out
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>>727765801
The original release of Dark Souls 2 stripped any agency from the player
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>>727771390
don't forget enemies had like infinite stamina, so those knights in the dragonkeep or whatever were annoying to deal with
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>>727765801
>movement is utter shit due to 8 directional movement
>animations look like shit and feel like shit to see due to dogshit mocap
>world design is complete nonsense vs the interconnected world from 1
>story is absolutely retarded and what keeps u from going to the king is a pebble on the road
>story also overexplains everything even though it makes no sense
>adaptability ruins half the game and is forced on you
> combat is much slower than even demon souls
>fall damage makes you die from falling half a meter
>bosses all suck and are unmemorable
>magnet tracking enemies
>throw ganks at you to make it hard, that cant be fought 1 by 1, cuz they group aggro, while your chara is so slow its just a tedious waste of time
>make the way to bosses utter dogshit to waste even more time
>pvp is also shit, but that much is obvious if u even just watch a video of the pvp highlights kek
it basically does everything wrong that ds1 did right and you can feel the ds2 directors input in elden ring as well, since a quarter of the game feels just like it.

>>727768992
this one is funny, cuz the 1st one to make it about political fags defending it, was the trolls remorse pseudo intellectual that only defends garbage games. He deservingly got shit on by that 5h series that made him look like a complete retard and made him seethe for months after its release on top of it.
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>>727780198
It’s also unique in that it’s the only armored core that can actually PUNISH you for importing a save. If you import a save from Nexus that doesnt have the shop bought out, there is no way of getting those parts. The secret parts in Nexus are still earnabke in Ninebreaker along with the new parts. But everything else in Nexus? If you didn’t buy it before importing you’re fucked. Which is a big fucking deal when the game is about trials that require different parts and tuning to get gold. It’s actually better just to use a fresh new game for it instead.
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>>727765454
Tenchu shadow assault
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>>727765454
>ruins characters
>replaces the unique comic book cutscenes with alright 2D animation
>ends on a cliffhanger
Dam.
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>>727765454
>it's a rollslop thread instead of a Kino Friends thread
Fuck you fags
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>>727780802
Sums it up nicely.
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>>727765801
I didn't hate DS2. It's the worst game made by From, and a big downgrade visually compared to DeS and DS1, but it was better than the absolute majority of western games, and fun to explore and make different builds.
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>>727765454
It's jews.
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>>727765801
A combination of it factually being shit and broken marketing promises. Also inexperienced B team dev hell.

Bloodborne came just 1 year later, so DS2 is sandwished between the 3 best Souls games to date.
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>B team
Is everyone here just repeating whatever these youtube faggots spouted around?
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>>727783834
If it's not Miyazaki it's the B-team.
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Steel Battalion 2



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