>>727787675
because is a VN+cinematic shit for normal fags and coomers and not for people who play games for gameplay and fun, next question

>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring?

Have you played Baldur's Gate 1 and 2? That's even worse, because everything happens in real time and you're expected to manually pause the game to give orders. BG3 pauses the game for you, which is what turn based is.

>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring?
Because it's D&D 5e. Just fuck Shadowheart and then rush to the end

>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring?
Larian was allowed to make it

>>727788146
Basically, BG3 combat is identical to posting on 4chan. I'm not sure how someone can be okay with this website and not turn based combat. What are you doing on 4chan?
>make a post
>wait
>maybe get a reply or at least a new post appears
That's what turn based is. You do something, then the enemy does something, and repeat.

>>727787675
You must be one of those on the lower end of the iq bell curve

>>727787675
It's D&D 5e. It is supposed to be played by like 4 or 5 nerds pretending to be wizards or whatever. If you don't like it, you don't like TTRPGs.

>>727788848
more like 5 transgenders pretending to be woman

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>>727789054
Nobody wants to hear about your D&D sessions.

>>727787675
Do you dislike CRPG combat in general?

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>>727789328
He probably doesn't even like CRPGs. CRPGs of the past were BG3 but you did the pausing. That means anyone who played the old ones should appreciate the current system. This anon is right, sadly: >>727788789

>I make a move
>I lose
>Reload
>I make the same move
>I win
High IQ gameplay

>>727790024
You could just play Honour Mode if your brain is so large that you don't want to savescum. Did you know Honour Mode exists?

>>727790275
What's with BG3 fans constantly talking about big brains and high IQ? It's like Rick & Morty the game.
>You could just play Honour Mode if your brain is so large that you don't want to savescum
Why would I do this when the game was designed for savescumming? I get that it makes you feel very smart while playing, but it’s not challenging at all, it’s just RNG and endless reloading. If you skipped every combat encounter in the game not much would change, you’d just save some time.

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>>727791279
>I get that it makes you feel very smart while playing, but it’s not challenging at all, it’s just RNG and endless reloading.

Okay, so play a game where you compete against other humans, and reloading isn't possible.

>>727791279
>it’s just RNG and endless reloading
You aren't optimizing your characters then

>>727787675
combat is fun when you figure out the OP shit. playing a multiplayer save with my friends, we're at act 3 and I'm a bladesinger fighter wielding the legendary Rapier and the chest piece with an aura that makes enemies vulnerable to piercing damage, and my friend is running arcane archer and we're just absolutely booming everything.

>>727791279
>he can't do crisis management
perhaps turn based games with RNG aren't for you kiddo.

>>727791356
The truth is the NPC Niggers only think they want a challenge. If they tried a game that was actually hard, they wouldn't be so harsh on BG3.

>>727787675
Skill issue.

>>727791279
It's not designed for save scumming, turdbrain. You get unique outcomes and reactivity when you fail rolls.

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>>727787675
All you have to do is make that % go up.
Boost your own stats that make it go up, give yourself an advantage and exploit it.
If the enemy has something that makes it go down, target the stat or ability doing so.

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>>727787675
>2 years later
>/pol/ is still bearbroaken and copeposting
Just take the L Timmy.

>>727787675
>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
What the fuck are you doing that you're getting your party wiped? Outside of a couple of encounters you should be able to salvage a shit-show.
Obviously save before a big fight, or going into an important conversation (that's common sense) but failing some combat encounters and skill checks isn't the end of the world. And the game is made to be played through multiple times, so you can try it again next time.

>>727792056
>Outside of a couple of encounters you should be able to salvage a shit-show.

Maybe people don't realise you can run and teleport to camp (if you're far enough from the enemy). It only takes one person to run away and revive your party at Withers.

act 1 > act 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> act 3

>>727792243
Do you really think Act 3 is worse than Act 2? Do you like the quest where the elf asks you to punish the spirit of some dead woman? I don't even do that one, because there's nothing good about it. Also, I really love being interrogated by an old lady. I can't even kill her because it turns all of Last Light hostile.

>>727792243
act 3 is fine once you get past the gate

>>727792552
I think Act 3 is really good, and I did every quest in my current run. The only quest I didn't like was the Jannath mansion one. I finished it, and I still don't understand what happened. Did Oskar trap the ghost of his dead lover in a painting or something? The quest ended with the spirit killing him, and I was like whatever.
Also, I did the quest where you have to kill Mystic Carrion, and the fight was crazy hard. The Act 3 bosses are really hard if they have their Legendary Actions.

>>727787675
>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
no youre suppose to not be shit at the game
the gamer is piss easy, you need difficulty mods to make it somewhat challenging

>>727787675
It's an F5 simulator and it's hot garbage. The game is also way too horny for its own good and feels like a Netflix special as a result. The characters themselves aren't bad though.

>>727789141
what are posts like this even trying to reference or communicate

>>727787675
Turn-based tactical rpg combat is not for everyone.
Final Fantasy Tactics is very much beloved, but there's plenty who fucking hate its combat.
Just got to be honest with yourself when it's not your style.

I hated FF16 because I couldn't give two shits about pure action combat. Not everything is for everyone.

I really wanted to enjoy this game, but no matter what I just couldn't get into the combat. It's not about winning or losing, cRPG combat just doesn't click for me. The game feels a bit like Skyrim, where you spend ages talking to NPCs, except here the writing is more interesting and engaging. But instead of exploring the overworld, collecting items, actively moving around, and pressing buttons, I’m just watching NPCs from a drone as they go about their shit in combat. Jumping from that to another 20 minutes of dialogue makes me sleepy. No, I don't use tiktok.

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>>727793091
Being a 4chan scholar, I'll assume it's a Lovecraft reference. The word insane is used, and I also happen to know the name of Lovecraft's cat. You can look it up if you don't know.

>>727792243
Act 3 is great. It actually feels like a city, unlike BG1 where it doesn't really feel like a city at all (limitations of its time)

>>727787675

Not every game has to be God of War mash square and roll

>>727792552
A big problem for me is by the time I got past the gate I was at level cap, and my austism can't allow me to leave a quest unchecked, and it wears really thin when you're running all over the map trying to find some mummynigger's heart so he will give you a thing that lets you get a thing to let you end a quest you've had from act one, and your reward is going to be exp you can't use, money you don't need, or maybe some gear that's worse than anything you already have equipped on the party. I wish they would have raised the level cap just a bit.

>>727793091
Anon is sarcastically exaggerating that the concept of real-time with pause (RTwP) gameplay being a truly alien and unknowable eldrich concept to the other anon.
The underlying implication being that anon is a zoomer who has never played a video game that wasn't a sony interactive cinematic experience full of gay browns.

Lol shitters

>>727787675
because you dont know how to fight and win in dnd 5e

>>727793703
nta but I've played crpgs since the gold box games, which were turn-based. the RTWP fad was just something sort of pushed because retailers and publishers at the time thought nobody liked turn-based anymore. it was sort of a trash system people just sort of put up with to get to the crpg meat. not "unknowable" or anything silly like that, just unnecessarily clunky.

David Brevik had a thing about Blizzard forcing them to turn Diablo 1 into real-time. They eventually got it how they wanted it to be, but it was designed to be a turn-based RPG first. We got lucky on that one turning out good as a system though.

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How much do they pay you to shill?

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>>727793930
>be monk
>max dex and wis
>get the gloves that give you 20 strength
>get tavern brawler
>drink that potion that gives you another attack turn after you kill someone
>cuckpunch an entire gank-squad to death

>>727793435
I sort of liked being at the max level and just enjoying my abilities rather than feeling "I'll never get my full build", but I do get losing that carrot on the stick removing a lot of enjoyment. It's sort of a basic staple of RPGs to suddenly have halted.

>>727793091
it's just normal modern /v/ schizo shit

>>727792552
Act 3 is my favorite act

>>727794467
>I sort of liked being at the max level and just enjoying my abilities rather than feeling "I'll never get my full build"

I do too. There's gear you can only get in Act 3. Like, the Silver Sword is my favourite weapon and you can only get it at the start of Act 3 (without cheating). That means I actually look forward to Act 3, to have everything I need to fight the tough bosses everywhere. You're just some dude in the first two Acts and Act 3 is when you're a hero striding amongst the plebs.

>>727795384
Based

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>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring? Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
If you need to repeatedly save scum to get through combats, then you didn't build your party properly. A well built party and good strategy will steamroll combats regardless of dice rolls.

If you can't do that, then you should be playing on Explorer mode.

>>727794467
I don't disagree with you, I just wish it was SLIGHTLY a higher ceiling.
Or that I had realized it was a bad idea to play the game like how I usually play any game with exploration (doing everything BUT the main story missions until there is nothing else to do).
Also you could pretty much make act 3 its own game for all the content there was.

>>727795575
>you could pretty much make act 3 its own game for all the content there was.

No way. Thanks to Act 3, the game is closer to World of Warcraft than Witcher 2. I played Witcher 2 to 100% completion and I wasn't satisfied. Sometimes a game is great but you're left wondering where the other half is.

>>727787675
>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
No you're not supposed to lose actually.

>>727795575
I simultaneously appreciate and dislike Sven's RPG autism.
He's got this idea of "D&D characters should be able to do X at X levels in the tabletop, we need to be able to mostly represent it in-game", so keeping it at 12th-level prevents things like Teleport, Ehtrealness, Plane Shift, etc.

BG1 and BG2 were fully alright being video games and handwaving that stuff away outside of plot things.

Plus side of them going back to their own systems with the next games is they don't have to worry about "not meshing with the pen & paper game power level"

>>727787675
If you're savescumming then you haven't learned the combat.

Figure out how to do it first, because until then you're just bad at thinking and your opinion is irrelevant.

>>727795575
the way they explained it was that they didn't feel it was plausible anymore for a lv 13 party to be truly threatened by the events of the game, unless they arbitrarily limited what spells and abilities they got access to
lv 13 is where wizards get simulacrum for example

>>727796024
I mean. He changed how shit like Divine Intervention works, they could do the same to the most problematic effects/spells if they really wanted to.

>>727796024
honestly it "is" a good point
high level D&D games just feels off, especially the ones that go deep into epic territory
"oh no we've been sent halfway across the world whatever will we do" in ToB felt just stupid

bitch please, you're north of lv 20, you could casually visit fucking Sigil if you wanted

the combat already breaks at lvl7 and besides bosses everything is a pushover.

>>727796513
the issue is that at lv 13 there's not just 1 or 2 problem spells, the number of problem spells goes into the dozens and there's spells among them that you just can't nerf in any reasonable way
like teleport and planeshift, you can't have those spells in your game if they don't do what they're supposed to do

>>727787675
I swear to god, somehow larian games of all things are the biggest retard filters on /v/. Just hoes to show how casual this board is
Here's a tip: if you have to savescum fights, you are probably underleveled for them. Go and explore

>>727789561
Are there mods for new armor and the like? Nwn vault is hard to navigate.

>>727796726
Once you get to 13th-level, you're at what should be planar adventures across other completely realms and shit.
Usually why D&D games breaks down (outside of the math for monster and suggested DMG encounter/adventure design not working well at higher levels) is groups still trying to play and run D&D like they did the first dozen levels when it should get far bigger in scope than just a single world.

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>>727791279
>What's with BG3 fans constantly talking about big brains and high IQ? It's like Rick & Morty the game.
Because your ease of moving throught the game is heavily related to the mental effort you put in. Imagine if someone was having trouble beating a Pokemon game because they had a shitty, underleveled, team with garbage movesets. The advice would be to build a better team and stop being a retard.

>Why would I do this when the game was designed for savescumming?
The game isn't designed for savescumming. Dice systems are designed to produce variable, non-deterministic gamestates that you are supposed to respond to (i.e. to be exciting and unpredictable rather than unoredictable and noring). If it WERE designed for save scumming, then there would be an "auto-success" button or a button that lets you reroll the dice infinitely until you succeed. The fact that savescumming to reroll is a pain in the ass means that it wasn't designed for it. You are deliberately ignoring something that is telling you NOT to save scum.

>it’s not challenging at all, it’s just RNG and endless reloading.
It is challenging. But the challenge is to plan/build a team that can progress through the game WITHOUT having to save scum. Can you do that?

>>727796860
Er... I remember there being a mod that changed the way the gear looked. I think it was the Prophet series. Give that a try. It's been a while.

>>727796970
alternatively the threat you face at that level needs to be big and immediate enough that if your lv 13 ass abandoned it, an entire country dies

but yeh in general a lot of ttrpg's break down at higher level because they're unwilling to commit to the changing scope, funnily enough d&d isn't even the worst at it, pathfinder has things like lv 19 mobsters surrounded by lv 17 henchmen

>>727797074
>prophet
I'll do that

>Troongarian containment thread

>>727797370
I remember finding gear and thinking
>this stuff looks really cool
because I was so used to the way they normally look in the official campaigns.

>>727797282
I've never played Mystara and lot of that stuff is before my time coming into D&D, but I heard Mystara has a lot of all-over-the-place levels and stuff like that. Also apparently somethign like a full nation entirely made up of greater than level 20 spellcasters.

>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring?
it's D&D

>>727797546
And a hyper intelligent T-Rex (I think?) that is almost god-level spellcaster who lives in the center of the world (that is hollow)

>>727797546
Is there any relation between Mystra and Mystara, or is it a coincidence?

>>727797546
that's also a silly thing
like, lv 13 again, is where you're already among the best people at your field on the continent
there's no such thing as anonymity unless you've gone through great lengths to keep yourself anonymous, and it's a rare even to run into someone else capable of matching you at your expertise

at lv 20 whenever you enter a room people should go quiet and stare at you, either in admiration of a legend gracing them with a visit or restrained horror that the situation they're in requires someone of your level to head over

>>727797836
Just coincidence. Not related.
Mystara didn't have "gods" the way other settings have, it has "Immortals". They're almost like gods, but they all came from mortals/PC origins who achieved that power level.
BECMI (Beginner, Expert, Companion, Masters, Immortals) box set went over rules on how to progress each tier of experience/levels. "Immortals" was the top.

epic-level D&D the system has completely broken down and it's just sheer power fantasy for nerds.
>i stop time and summon meteo and also this was done by my simulcra so i didn't actually lift a finger myself
a level 40 character from a NWN Epic Levels campaign is stronger than Ao the Overgod. Unless Ao's boss, Gary, intercedes on his behalf.

>>727798137
>i stop time and summon meteo and also this was done by my simulcra so i didn't actually lift a finger

Lol

>>727788848
>If you don't like it, you don't like TTRPGs.
You are actually fucking retarded.

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>>727797460
>containment
He's made dozens of ad spam threads today

>>727792243
I really like act 3, especially in a multiplayer setting. you have to be willing to do crime and not reload saves to evade the flaming fists, but act 3 is legitimately very fun when making the most of the sandbox
>decide to do murder tribunal stuff
>set up darkness in the kitchen with the target
>huck a bomb into it, blow everyone up
>fly/teleport to a nearby roof and then turn the corner on the flaming fists coming to investigate
it's probably very bland as a generic do-gooder who needs to reload every time a plan goes wrong

>>727787675
Just play on easy.

>>727787675
Like typical D&D, it's shit until level 2 or 3. Then it's pretty good for a while. Then in Act 3, it goes back to being shit. The game starts throwing battles at you with a dozen or more trash mobs, and fights take fucking forever.

>>727797460
He's trying to convince people he doesn't exist again when he casually came up somewhere again.
It's fucking weird, especially when you can just double-check his account when his style of posts pop up and notice activity is always the same when it happens

>>727788517
Combat is one of the few things Larian does really well compared to most other CRPGs.
It's the stories/lore/worldbuilding they typically suck ass at, but they just borrowed the lore/worldbuilding from someone else for BG3 (the Forgotten Realms setting) and hired a bunch of new writers to do BG3's story.
DOS1/2 writing was pretty abysmmal, but 2's was at least passable. You played them more for the CRPG mechanics and exploration.

>>727787675
It's a story game you dip. Nobody cares about the gameplay weirdo

>>727787675
>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
what an awful way to say that you love to suck dick.

>>727800707
I do...
I think it's good and I wish more CRPGs gave me options like this, especially with the verticality.

>>727799738
I stepped away from the game for a bit, and I unironically have so many abilities and spells and item abilities (in Act 3) that's it's overwhelming trying to get back into the game.
I think I might just start over.

>>727787675
It's perhaps the only good CRPG combat.

>>727798137
>a level 40 character from a NWN Epic Levels campaign is stronger than Ao the Overgod. Unless Ao's boss, Gary, intercedes on his behalf.
no they're not
gods actually got stats in 3.5 and they're all CR80-100 so your lv 40 epic character would get wrecked by even the weakest god

>>727787675
>make a barbarian
>get Karlach (a barbarian) and Lae'zel (a warrior)
>give the characters mentioned above the most valuable weapons in your inventory
>have Gale (a wizard) drop a magic missile or ten every turn
That's what I did on Balanced, I doubt it's optimized, but it works

>>727801272
CR stops mattering at the higher levels, really.

>>727801397
their abilities are on the level that even a lv 40 character would get bodied
take Vecna for example, they have boosted their counterspel abilities to the point it's mathematically impossible for even a lv 80 caster to successfully cast a spell near them and they reflect any spell they counter

>>727801218
DOS2 is better combat-wise, other than the shields

>>727802394
You're thinking of Boccob. Vecna is annoying but has to have some very specific contingencies to not die to a level 40 caster because they can do some VERY fucked up shit.

>>727787675
The combination of your two sentences makes it pretty obvious that you are retarded and suck at the game, and that's why you're here whining.

No one with a brain needs to savescum, even when maxing out every difficulty slider AND playing underleveled.

>>727791279
I literally never die in honour mode you complete DONUT

>>727796618
It's incredibly obvious that they had no idea what to do with lv5+ combat, even extra attack by itself is enough to skullfuck most encounters

>>727787675
I will never play this game because the combat looks genuinely awful. Like the gameplay looks so unfun that I'd get really angry about it. Not paying 60 bucks to confirm my suspicions I'll hate it.

Funny I have never ever seen a person discuss this games gameplay.

>>727787802
FPBP

>>727809458
not everyone likes turn-based tactical rpg combat, true. good to know your gaming preferences.

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Keep bumping these totally organic non ad threads on pg 10 Chang. No one cares about Tencent Gate.

>>727806307
nta but I just did. 2 hours 7 minutes.
i tried to take on the ruined temple with withers before going to the grove.
i think i'm still too basic bitch at the strategy for this game. apparently cloud of daggers is supposed to be good?

>>727809860
So did Tencent succeed in acquiring the intellectual rights to Dungeons and Dragons by buying 1/3rd of a videogame company that had the Baldur's Gate IP leased to it?

>>727787675
Because it's 5e which is an overly simplified boring system. The system itself is so cut down and retard proofed that even with all the homebrew rules in BG3 it's still fucking too simple. Even at high levels the majority of turns boil down to
>Move
>Attack
>End Turn
>Debuff
>Move
>End Turn
>Attack
>Attack
>End Turn

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>>727810171
Not only did they fail, they owed Hasbro $80M. Actual money. Not fake sales reported by China.
Embarrassing.

>>727810340
>Big if true
kek

>>727809606
Worst part is we won't get another D&D game as fucking great as BG3 for at least a decade or more. They lucked out with Larian wanting to make it.

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>They lucked out with Larian wanting to make it.
So they never have to worry about anyone making gameplay this shit again? For sure

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Now imagine getting laughed out of a wotc boardroom when asking for the d&d license permanently after showing these, only to also be told you need to cut them a check for 80 million dollars AFTER shill costs
holy shit lmfao

>>727809860
How do you exclude a country in a google interest over time search?

>>727810340
Citation needed

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>>727810801
we've all seen how that went haha

Someone just learned what turn-based CRPGs plays like and thinks he's posting a "gotcha" kek
It's okay to not like CRPGs. Don't be an autist about it though

>>727809860
Why did you use Baldur's Gate 3 instead of BG3?

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>>727810340
Highly doubt the actual game sales totaled $80M. Most of the steam copies are chinese bots

>>727810801
?
WotC tried to keep Larian around for a future BG4 before screwing over relations
What weird alternate reality do you live in?

And why samefag to yourself?

>>727810920
>Someone just learned
He's a schizo whose been posting these for years. He thinks BG3 was a Chinese plot to steal the Dungeons and Dragons IP from Hasbro.

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>>727811042
>WotC tried to keep Larian around for a future BG4 before screwing over relations
You have no source for that because it's a lie. Meanwhile:
>>727810880

>>727791279
>if I don't succeed on every roll I reload
>you are a rick and morty fan btw
Epic.

Looks like dragtranny woke up.
Was wondering why the posts all got so samey and weird out of nowhere.
Time to disappear for maybe an hour for RL stuff until he disappears for a while or the jannies get him again.

>>727811042
Yup. WotC has been known to do shit like that.
Similar things were said regarding Critical Role, which WotC ALSO doesn't own. Their exec-level people are retarded

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>>727794281
My favorite part of all this is when the jannies start deleting these posts to censor. Because it's obviously
>Not an ad thread
>Not a spam thread (posted constantly during sales for bg3, and then nobody posts anything for weeks)
>Not some china conspiracy (despite literal facts)
>Can't show actual game sames
But somehow, the exposers are the schizo spammers. See pic for how retarded that claim is.

>>727811042
>What weird alternate reality do you live in?
He's Russian

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>>727811232
This poster is a chinese shill samefag. Ignore everything he posts.

>>727811250
>can't show actual game sames
Brazil pls go

>>727787675
5E D&D is literally designed for brain dead retards, what are you doing nigger?

How much harder is honor from tactician?

>>727811280
Ah. So the "everyone is a chinese shill" thing is him projecting shit

>>727812138
its technically the same but with permadeath/no save scum and the honor ruleset which gives some enemies (mostly bosses and mini bosses) more/unique mechanics that they otherwise wouldn't have

if you want to experience honor mode without the permadeath bullshit just do custom difficulty, crank everything to tactician and pick honor ruleset

>>727811042
It's a known russian schizo. Everyone just ignores him while he samefags to himself about weird imagined reality shit.
Or at least usually. On a rare occasion it's a copy cat who's just bored. Can usually tell those because they get bored quickly and can't match up to a legit mental case that the original ruski is.

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>>727812279
The evidence is overwhelming. Denying it's not a chinese astorturf is more damning than not.
All they have to do is release the sales or let Swen say Taiwan. Alas, it is obvious why they can't.

Got it.
Sorry for giving them attention, I didn't know.

are any of the modded classes fun? im pretty bored of everything the game has to offer but im scared modded shit will be obscenely broken

>>727812576
No the game is trash, spambot-kun:
>>727810723
>>727810801

>>727812576
I know this doesn't answer your question, but I REALLY want to try to artificer class mod. No clue how well it's implemented though.

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>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring?
Because D&D combat is fucking boring.
Heroquest had a better combat system by far.

>>727812905
4th edition had interesting combat, which unfortunately never saw light in a video game.

>>727810297
I do more unique actions per turn in BG3 than I ever did in BG1 and 2 man. Martials are literally click and forget and watch them snowball and maybe for big fights you cast some spells and buffstack, but in BG3 basically every fight has me buffing up or using unique actions in one way or another. What do you even want in the game? You can cast spells, you can buff/debuff, you can manipulate the environment and enemies in that environment, you can attack, sneak attack, use all sorts of different types of arrow and so on so forth.

>>727805141
>>727802394
Giving the gods stats is stupid, in any edition.
They should really just be dm fiat stuff

>>727787675
Why is this game so exhausting to play for me?
I feel like for every 30 minutes I actually play and do something I spend 20 minutes in menus fiddling with my inventory, build, spells or something else. Or I get stuck with decision paralysis and end up looking shit up for 10 minutes before every decision that feels "big". Or I end up rebuilding my main character to do "everything" because I don't want to rely on, or do any conversations with companions.

Maybe its just not for me. I've never made it much past the act 3 intro.

>Wyll Ravenguard exists in BG3 because the poll for the "Murder in Baldur's Gate" adventure resulted in more people having Duke Silvershield turn into a chosen of bhaal than tables had Ravenguard or Nine-fingers became a Chosen of Bhaal

In an alternate reality, Wyll (or his replacement) would've been white and a Silvershield.

>>727812997
4th edition's combat is perfectly suited for a video game.
Because it was copied from video games.
It was never good for tabletop because every ability does the same few things, with differing flavor text. You can actually visually see the things look different in vidya, you can't in tabletop

>>727813509
make peace with everyone in your party serving roles including your PC

>>727787675
You're right, other RPGs don't use RNG for combat. What were they thinking?

>>727813651
and I bet he still would've been the most boring companion in the game so what does it matter?

>>727813509
analysis paralysis and unfamiliarity with rules/spells/etc. it happens at actual tabletops too for some people, not strictly a video game thing.

it's something you get past at some point, but if you're not finding things interesting enough to do so, might just not be for you really. I was like that Paradox grand strategy video games and I couldn't get past it.

>>727813509
>Maybe its just not for me. I've never made it much past the act 3 intro.
It took you 50 hours to decide you don't like a game?

>>727813792
Strictly just a weird "what if", it doesn't actually matter ultimately.

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I always wanted to play this but dont like turn based combat. At this point I am thinking ill just lookup one hit kill builds so I can power through the game. Gloomstalker assassin looks ok but dont know if there are better builds that come online early

>>727813894
nta but I have a friend who's a bit OCD, and RPGs that let them interact with almost anything and are very open really gets him.
it took him forever to get into BG3 because of the "you can pick almost everything up" thing (which is them mimicing the Ultima games really). Act 3 would be that much more overwhelming with the number of objects and NPCs for people mentally geared like that.

>>727813848
Its definitely not unfamiliarity. I GM for a 5e game and play in another weekly. The most unfamiliar stuff I run into is when the two rulesets don't actually match up, which is fairly frequently but not all that much.
Maybe its my GM brain working overtime and not letting me just roll with decisions.
>>727813894
Thats the problem.
Its not that I dislike it. I just take forever to do anything, and with only about 1-3 hours a night of free time it just doesn't feel rewarding to play for "only" that much time.
I've made it to some point in Act 2 like 3 times, so I actually have like 150ish hours. But every time something else comes along that captures my attention far better and I just drop it, forget what I was doing and start from scratch.

>>727813967
there's a rtwp mod in the works apparently (I'll never personally touch it), but might be okay for some who don't like turn-based?
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/12614

>>727813894
I'm halfway through act 3 right now with a save clocking in at 34 hours, though it is multiplayer and we've all finished the game before.

>>727809606
Most people don't as indicated by the small number of them in a modern age

>>727810031
>i tried to take on the ruined temple with withers before going to the grove.
I always do that, it's how I hit level 3 before the goblin fight.

>>727813967
Why play it if you won't enjoy it? Why do normies feel the need to play something they normally wouldn't because the masses are? Play shit you'd actually enjoy; that's the whole point of gaming. BG3 hardly has any gameplay anyway; it's literally a role-playing game for faggots, furries, and redditors.

>>727814343
the market is there given DoS2, Fire Emblem Three Houses, BG3's and Xcom 2's success, it's just that devs usually put out low budget stuff, poorly made slop or in many cases, a mixture of both so people skip them. but well made decently budgeted turn based strategy games can be really big successes. like we can't compared codename S.T.E.A.M and Midnight Suns to the games I listed, it's not even close to being fair.

>all the male origin characters are mage or rogue sissies.
>all the female origin characters are high STR ungabunga snoo snoo amazons
I kept noticing

>>727814869
>he thinks warlock is a pure caster
hexblade is the biggest chad melee class in the game when combined with paladin

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>>727810031
>i tried to take on the ruined temple with withers before going to the grove.

That's only hard if you fail to lockpick the door and have to enter through the hole in the ground. You can cheese that fight by bringing a nautiloid tank, placing it in the middle of the enemies, and then exploding the tank with a fire bolt. I suggest trying that if you think the fight is too hard. You can keep a nautiloid tank from the tutorial or find one near the intellect devourers.
The skeleton fight is easier than the one I'm telling you to cheese, as long as you have three characters e.g. Shadowheart and Lae'zel.

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tg schizo turkroach eventually loops into talking to himself like every thread. He's Rapeape's friend so he gets to ruin the board so long as china pays the jannies, but boy is it getting pathetic.

>>727816069
don't even need the tank, the bozos in the hallway post up next to an explosive barrel as long as you drop the overhanging thingamajig in the fight above ground. they're all facing away from the door too so you can hit the lever, and throw a firebolt right at the barrel.

>>727814251
>Its definitely not unfamiliarity. I GM for a 5e game and play in another weekly.
Interesting. Unfortunately I can't think of anything then, that's a problem I haven't any personal experience in.
Curious if you figure out a solution, or if it's a no-go.

>>727816327
>the bozos in the hallway post up next to an explosive barrel as long as you drop the overhanging thingamajig in the fight above ground

Does that instakill them? Maybe I'll try it without the nautiloid tank next time, but with the tank the fight is over instantly.
People on Reddit say they wipe to the intellect devourers, and they're probably just not using potions after they take damage.

>>727816069
>Talk to the retards up top
>Get them to flee and immediately turn on Turn-Based mode For extra experience
>Shoot the rope for the construction block
>Kill the remaining two NPCs
>Use first Short Rest
>Lie to the retard at the door
>Jump down into the hole created by the construction block
>Have Shadowheart or Astarion use Fire Bolt on fire barrel
>Kill the remaining NPCs
>Short Rest
>Loot everything
>Fight skellies
>Talk to my skelly man
>Long Rest
>Head to the Grove fight

>>727814448
D&D is literally older than two of those things you zoomer faggot

>>727816579
Do you grab the book in the room next to the skellies? You get an inspiration point for reading it.

>>727816571
>People on Reddit say they wipe to the intellect devourers, and they're probably just not using potions after they take damage.
They're retarded or have never played a Larian game, possibly both.
>Turn on Turn-based mode when the moving Devourer gets close to the purple canister
>Have Shadowheart use Fire Bolt on purple canister
>One or two very low health Devourers remaining
>>727816796
Of course, an inspiration point for Astarion is also why I lie to the retard at the door without entering it.

>>727792920
>Also, I did the quest where you have to kill Mystic Carrion, and the fight was crazy hard. The Act 3 bosses are really hard if they have their Legendary Actions.
didn't struggle with this because i crushed him with moonbeam spam, but act 3 difficulty is a vast spectrum. you have some piss easy fights(ran through the sewer area without needing long rest), whike some major quests like cazador & steel watch foundry absolutely curbstomped me(shamefully i had to look up guides on how to clear).

>>727817404
>ran through the sewer area without needing long rest

Did you do the grease fight? I think I had to Divine Intervention that fight because I was getting rekt. I talked to the guy, and afterwards my party was surrounded.

>>727814448
>Why play it if you won't enjoy it
i heard the story and dialogue are good so I want to check it out

>>727817523
>Did you do the grease fight?
yeah, it's a fairly easy fight. all you have to do is just light the grease on fire, by the time the mephits or whatever they're called reach you they've already lost half their health. as for the golems & wizard you can trap them with spells like hunger of hadar & insect plague.
the most difficult encounter i faced was to rescue minsc, not because the fight was so difficult but because minsc kept dying to aoe attacks after i knocked him out, so i had to repeat it until i lured him inside the sewage tunnel so he is not killed.

>>727818701
>all you have to do is just light the grease on fire, by the time the mephits or whatever they're called reach you they've already lost half their health.

I started the fight with my whole team standing on the grease. If I tried to run, they would have just slipped and got beaten to death. That's why I had to activate DI to not die.

>>727816571
it doesn't instakill on tactician but it chunks em pretty good. might kill on balanced but I don't play that mode

>>727819094
>it doesn't instakill on tactician but it chunks em pretty good

Oh, right. I guess I'll keep using the nautiloid tank. As I said, the fight is over instantly if you place it on them and blow it up.

>>727814869
Spellcasters are more powerful than martial characters in D&D.

>>727818060
I heard it's a lot more fun multiplayer with friends, but I wouldn't personally know

>>727787675
Turn based is much easier to implement/"balance". It's step-by-step so you can just throw jeets at it, no thought or coordination involved. The game is extremely easy and there are many ways to win, but it involves lots of dogshit D&Doid randomness so depending on your approach, yes you will want to savescum.

>>727823037
PLUS, these kitchen sink turn-based games gives the player the illusion of being smart, because they must make many decisions and they take a moderate amount of "work" to play. But actually it's retardedly easy and almost any player will eventually win, so normgroids, journalists etc will still be able to beat it. The randomness helps with this. Even most mediumcore gamers are content with this illusion, so you only lose a small percentage of trve gamers who enjoy things like RTWP kino.

>>727816082
>eventually loops into talking to himself like every thread
Apparently one of the symptoms of autism is an ability to process irony.

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>>727822254
stop listening to chinese shills. they lost millions. this game isn't worth anyone's time

>>727823656
Who lost millions? I have no idea what you're talking about here.
Game was pretty fun for me singleplayer, just wish I knew anyone to do multiplayer with.

>>727823656
>this game isn't worth anyone's time

Why did you devote your life to trashing it, then? Think about every single game you like, and I have the threads auto filtered. That's what you should do to stuff you don't like. Doubt me if you want, but you could enter any of the threads, and I won't be there.

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>>727824651
Have a look. Was I bluffing? I wouldn't lie to you "people". If you hate BG3 then avoid it like I avoid all the stuff you like.

>>727823037
Why wouldn't it be turn-based? It's literally based on a tabletop game that works on turns.

>>727823656
What are funds given by financiers?
>ai will take our jerb
Better import 3rd world as a whole, to be sure to have enough workers!

>>727825154
>Why wouldn't it be turn-based? It's literally based on a tabletop game that works on turns.

Even the real time with pause RPGs were essentially turn based. Skills would say "five rounds" or whatever and a round was just 6 seconds.
I think people who hate turn based just have legitimate ADHD and the game isn't fast enough for them. Pretty sure I've already said 4chan is turn based, so I'm not sure how they survive the website.

>why does combat in genre I don't play not engage me?
for a board filled with supposed gamers, there are an awful lot of retards who don't understand games here

>>727824723
what were you doing on youtube bro

>>727825387
Thank you for asking. I was on Youtube because my 4chan disconnected but I still had internet. I was just watching some "immigration bad" video but most of them tell you what you already know. I only watched for a few minutes.

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>>727825154
I just gave you a bunch of reasons why it's turn based. Are you retarded?

>>727825551
ESL? Reading comprehension.

>>727825289
4chan is turn-based but it's PvP. Would you post on 4chan if everyone was a chatbot?
inb4
>im a chat bot
>akshually everyone is AI
etc

>>727825612
Yes you seem to lack reading comprehension. Like I said, turn-based is much easier to implement and has much broader appeal. Plus like you said (and I said) you can read it straight out of the D&D book.

>>727796978
I'm not reading all that

>>727825674
>no u
Have a good night anon

>>727825612
>>727825674
>>727825730
Another reason: turn-based is easily played by retards on their snoystations and phones.

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>>727825517
This isn't the video I watched today, but this is the kind of thing I watch sometimes. It's just a look at the future of the West.

https://youtu.be/rVNvOMj0AKA?si=Pvq3YxpYsC5Cl_YH

>>727825623
>Would you post on 4chan if everyone was a chatbot?

Aren't you speaking to chatbots when you play video games? I don't have a problem with bots.

>>727825762
low effort, anon. apply yourself or this is going to be boring and people will just ignore you.
just wanted to help you out here.

>>727791990
Obssessed

>>727825859
They don't have all that much to do over in Russia. Other than throw their young men into a meat grinder and get them killed needlessly, at least.

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>>727825805
>Aren't you speaking to chatbots when you play video games? I don't have a problem with bots.
No. Do you actually think that? Are you insane/retarded?

>>727787675
>have mage in the group
>enemies just walk past your frontline and rape them no matter what you do
>mage does like 1d8 damage at best with a limited resource cast while any fighter does like 1-2 attacks that do 5-15 or something like that
>mage cant pick shit up or throw or jump well
God I hate this garbage

>>727791990
lul

>>727826003
how the hell are you failing with wizards? DnD fucking wizards?

>>727826114
I'm not failing, they are just dead weight for so long, its godawful.

I only restarted if my whole party was wiped or I had a perma-death. Other than that I went through the game fine. Feels more fun to win by the skin of your teeth with one survivor to revive everyone at the end instead of constantly reloading to get the best result possible. That just sounds like a complete waste of your own time.

>>727826151
Use status effect spells at early levels, not damage.

>>727826227
>use status effect spell
>it almost always fails due to low % chance to hit/succeed

>use damage spell
>does virtually nothing

>use a sleep spell, miraculously it works
>an enemy literally walks over to the slept guy and slaps him to wake him up, still gets to walk to one of my characters and take his move and do a normal attack, the slept guy doesn't even lose his turn and gets to move anyway

I don't know if there is some secret spell to use early on that is actually good, or some item that makes your spells hit or some bullshit, but fuck right off. I've tried all kinds of shit trying to make them work, including stuff like hideous laughter and other spells that the internet recommends, they just don't do shit compared to just having your fighter walk up to them and rape them with a sword.

>>727826497
Waking up someone takes an action anon.

>>727826497
It's a party, not a single character game.
The wizards do status effects, it takes the enemy actions to deal with it where they aren't hitting back, your fighters whack at them at the same time.
All fighter group will generally fail without support, outside of a really good build that comes online later.
It's hard to know what you're messing up on without seeing what you're doing ourselves.

>>727826003
i don't know what you're doing, but wizards are OP for the first 2 acts. are you not using scrolls? the game throws scrolls at you nonstop, don't just hoard them. in act 3, fighters and barbarians become unstoppable murder machines, but having one caster is still nice for the occasional AOE fight, and otherwise they can cast Haste on your favorite martial character.

>>727826809
Can sorcerers twin cast haste in BG3?

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>The mental patient is still talking to himself and has the chatbot on
>Can sorcerers twin cast haste in BG3?
Why don't you ask a search engine? We know why
Ads are against the board rules

>>727826003
>go bladesinger
>mage armor, mirror image, bladesinging and haste, and if I REALLY need the defense use potions of speed to concentrate on blur
>have 33AC and potentially disadvantage on all attack rolls
>get sentinel
>stand in groups of enemies and cockblock them from walking away from me while my party blasts them to death at range while I swing for massive damage via booming blade
feels great man, so happy they added this subclass.

>>727826975
Huh?

>>727826925
they can. it's pretty tight but disastrous if concentration is broken, because that's half your party useless for a turn. can't hide in a dark cloud while hasting either because both are concentrate spells, so you just gotta keep your Sorc really far back or high up to avoid taking concentrate saves.

>>727827153
it's a known schizo. it's not supposed to make any sense.
And yeah, but then you're fucking around with a sorcerer instead of a wizard.

Thanks. Haven't done a dark urge run yet, gonna try a sorcerer I think

>>727827329
I basically always run dark urge now, you get a bit more narrative out of the main baddies and you can still be a good guy who rejects the urge, which is also pretty satisfying. being the ultimate murder hobo is also pretty fun too though

>>727827502
Durge resisting the urge honestly feels like the most "natural" playthrough for a "Baldur's Gate" themed game.
Honestly feels like the canon playthrough, if you could even call any of them one.

>>727827576
I'm convinced they pivoted to making Tav the default because of the forced murder of bard woman and they got spooked at the prospect of having the PC be forced into morally dubious things, possibly pissing off the goodie two shoe playerbase

>>727827757
I could see that turning off a good number of players honestly, they want to feel "heroic".
BG1/2 sort of played light with the child of Bhaal idea so it didn't feel too dark.
I think the darker aspect feels even MORE heroic, especially a specific moment in Act 3, so people are missing out

>>727814285
Holy shit, that looks amazing, why didn't Larian go with this?

>>727827576
Especially if he's a paladin.

>>727829009
Should've allowed the blackguard or whatever it's called right from the start

>>727830304
Oath breaker paladin of bhaal, cleric of bane accepting bhaal would've been fun

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>He's still shilling
Imagine being a prisoner in a chinese prison forced to shill a 2 year old game no one played for 12+ hours a day. On this shithole dead site of all places.

Now think about how dead this site is that jannies are desperate enough to take pittance from this chinese shill firm behind chinese astroturf 3.

>it's not shills!
ok, it's an unhinged friend of an admin the admin is too stupid to permaban. it's pathetic no matter how you slice it. These threads would get 404d on post if they weren't paid ads.

>>727833045
Gog has truly fallen to epic levels. No wonder polski begs for money.

>>727827757
>>727828759
I think the original idea was more like the BG1/2 concept, where the default MC had prompts but no real urges, but they swapped them into 2 characters so they could double down on forcing the player into actions without risking any snowflake backlash

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>Still no sales report
>Still no counter to picrel
>Still no gameplay webms
>Still a major flop
>Still caused the studio to be sold off to china
>Still desperately shilled
>Still not a single woke success story
This thread in particular has been shill bumped at page 10 for over 11 hours. Pathetic and hilarious.

>>727830304
at least it's incredibly easy to break your oath immediately after dropping out of the nautiloid. needing to redeem your oath to respect is kind of a pain though. in my mutliplayer game my group stalked the alleyways of the lower city looking for someone we could murder really quick and sneakily so my friend could re-break his oath

>>727834219
thanks for continuing to bump the thread so I can talk about the game while we all ignore you

>>727827237
You are the schizo, obsessfag.
Even with all your efforts you still can't stop talking about "the russian". You have been crying about "the russian" not allowing you to talk about bg3 for 2 years.

>>727834309
Oh I assure you, no bump was given!
Continue your 16 hours prison sentence for the day lmao not long now, only 5 left!

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>>727834309
>while we
>we
the chatbot is hallucinating

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>>727834309
Don’t poke the animals, anon.
The zoo’s more entertaining that way

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Reminder no bg3 thread gets above 10 posts without sliding unless it's an ai bot assisted ad thread like this one

They should just admit they take funds from china in a sticky and be done with it

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>he samefag roleplays a handler to keep the illusion he's not alone
LOL now that's pathetic
>In case he actually HAS a handler telling him to ignore getting shat on
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You have been doing that for 2 years faggot!
You even got a handler to try and strike your ego with "lion doesn't care" lines just to try to strike your ego enough so you don't go in another tangent about the russian you're obsessed with

See? It's pathetic no matter how you look at it.
Holy fucking lmao

>>727826925
Yea, you put two in your party and pre buff to one turn all the encounters. Even on Honor mode.

>>727788146
BG1/2 lets you set up contingencies for automatic pauses to make sure you don’t get overwhelmed, including ones that pause every round.
Most people don’t use them because it’s a pain in the ass outside the severe injury one.

>>727835349
pause on enemy sighted is also pretty good

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>>727813967
gloomstalker is okay, but there is no combat AI for the companions. You're controlling everybody at all times, so there's no use worrying aboiut what built to go with because you're going to want to pick out 4.

paladin/bard can one-shot and stun lock most things at level 8.

until that point you may want gloomstalker assassin to deal the heavy damage while your party finishes enemies off.

with your DPS planned out you can just have fun with the other two. i like making a tank cleric that just walks through the fight bulldozing shit with AOE, and a wildshape-focused druid to tackle the fuck out of things and also because i want to fuck jaheira's granny pussy and ass

>>727788585
you might genuinely be mentally handicapped dude

>>727835740
No, stlaker child, I am not, these are your criminal delusions speaking.
Enjoy prison.

>>727794109
>just unnecessarily clunky.
Moreso than combat taking so fucking long? Guys that came up with converting tabletop games to computers realized that hey, waiting for the whole table to take their turn isn't actually the best part of D&D (this was over 30 years ago btw). Somehow larian missed that memo.

>>727836109
the fights go as quickly as you can take your turns anon

>>727794109
Finally!
Could d1 work as tb game? Tile movement and all?

>>727794362
Monk is laughably strong. Played a naked monk, fresh kicks only - and beat the game solo with little effort.

Keep replying. Keep OP up until he's so inefficient the chinese prison kills him in favor of a different wumao

>>727836185
...which is still way slower than real-time, anon

>>727836219
yeah probably if each movement or action was a turn, with monsters moving every time you take an action. kind of the mystery dungeon games I imagine

>he turned the chatbot rate up
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>727836457
Relax

>>727836354
>...which is still way slower than real-time, anon
BG3 in realtime would probably be a nightmare with how much weight each action can have momentum wise in combat. it's not like BG1/2 where you buff up and just deathball enemies with the occasional fight that needs offensive spell micro. if your fights are and I quote
>taking so fucking long
you have likely built weak characters, it's so easy to ramp up in BG3 in terms of power and items.

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>>727836391
So... powder?

>>727836557
I've noticed that early on (and i was guilty of this as well), it's easy to underestimate how much gear contributes to damage. It seems obvious now but the game is built around equipment and if someone isn't taking advantage of that and relying solely on abilities, they might be nerfing themselves.

>>727836564
IIRC the original inspiration was stuff like Nethack, but I can't speak on it mechanically because I've never played it

>>727836557
No, the fights take so long because for the majority of combat you're waiting for someone else to take their turn.
>combat decisions have more weight
Ah, you're a 5e fag, I see

>>727836653
>No, the fights take so long because for the majority of combat you're waiting for someone else to take their turn.
I'd say tell your friends to take their turns quicker but we both know you're missing 3 crucial things for this scenario to occur. if you're playing (the if being if you're playing at all of course) enemies take their turns pretty quick so if you're having pacing issues that's a skill issue I'm afraid
>>combat decisions have more weight
>Ah, you're a 5e fag, I see
not really I've just played all 3 BG games, a round of your low level bozos in BG1 spending an entire turn whiffing attacks is way less devastating then a whole turn of that happening in BG3. In BG3 realtime for example the paladin fight in act 1 would be a nightmare to deal with because that paladin would just delete someone instantly because he gets two swings per round and has smites, I can beat him easily in turn based because I have the freedom to attack him before he acts, where in real time that'd be extremely hard to stop because everyone would be just doing their shit at the same time.

>>727788146
The pause button confuses and confounds the roll slop enjoyer.

>>727836947
Ah yes the power creep of 5e + terrible writing, who wouldn't want that.
Idk man, at least with rtwp I'm actually playing the game the whole time instead of waiting around to take my turn.

You know you can easily tell that those posts are made by either chatgpt or deepseek, right?
You know that your employer actually checks for it, right?

>>727836947
>enemies take their turns pretty quick
I have played every larian game and this statement is BULLSHIT

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>>727837028
I dunno I feel like I spend more time just watching my deathblob kill things in autopilot mode in BG1 and 2 than watching the enemy AI take their turns in BG3. only time I really have to actually participate in infinity engine combat is on the harder fights, and that usually just ends up being telling a martial to drink a potion when they have low HP and doing wizard micro. like even in my multiplayer game we're halfway through act 3 and we have like 35 hours on the file, we're absolutely blasting through the game.

>>727837178
even in the large fights when a group of enemies have a series of turns next to each other they all move at the same time man. maybe I'm just not completely brainrotted yet so I can tolerate a few seconds per enemy taking their turn. in which case I recommend a second monitor with some subway surfer videos to keep you occupied

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>>727826975
to be fair, the other option for china's 20%+ unemployment rate is food delivery in the elements for sub 1 yuan
maintaining postbots on a shitty vidya imageboard is like luxury to them

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>>727837419
this does guarantee i will pirate every larian game for the rest of my life though
the 30% thing is laughable. the nonstop shilling to maintain a china soft power presence across titles like it's going to make e33 stealing awards any less obvious? only china can think that helps their image

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>>727837536
all 6 of them

>>727791784
You only get combat when you fail. Unique content my ass.

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>>727787675
>Why is the combat in this game so bad and boring?
It is atrocious.
>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
Yes.
>What's the point?
It's emulating a hecking tabletop game!

>>727787675
You don't like barrels? What are you, an incel?

>>727787675
bait

Hopefully another critical role discord tranny dies keeping this shill thread alive

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>>727839481
Not even they give a shit. It's all tencent contracted botfarms

>Critical crap out of nowhere

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>>727839609
>out of nowhere
kill yourself Wong

>>727791552
>combat is fun when you figure out the OP shit
The combat is fun the moment you learn all the mechanics. You don't need the most OP stuff to have fun since pretty much everything in game can be utilized to hilarious ends.
>you want to kill goblins with a spoon
>you can do that
>you want to whack enemies with other enemies
>you can do that
Also i don't know why people aren't using the spell reduce person in order to make enemies easier to throw around or use as an improvised weapon.

>>727839609
He’s a false flag variant of shill. His job is to be as obnoxious as possible to get people to reply, thus keeping the thread alive. The sage is a trick to sell the ruse, since it will be immediately offset by a bump from someone annoyed at his act.
Unless you genuinely believe someone would spend hours monitoring a thread, replying when things get quiet, blatantly samefagging when nobody replies and projecting all of this onto everyone else, all for free?
Nobody would do that, even the genuinely mentally ill would at least need a break. He has to be getting paid.

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>>727841519
>pg9 bump
Keep pretending these threads are anything but janny-sanctioned ad spam

>>727789141
>>727834624
>>727837024
the combat in those games is terrible regardless of the fact you can pause
>click on enemy to see a character autoattack
>click on hotbar every once in a while for a specific skill
>somehow retards claim this is "strategic"

>>727799001
He's right tho. Say your beef is specifically with 5e, which is what all the kids pretending to be cool do, even 3.5e has essentially the same combat action economy. So if you hate BG3's combat, you just hate playing DnD

>>727791279
CRPG players have literal stockholm syndrome, they've have to deal with dogshit combat in the 90s and now have to gaslight themselves it was actually le good all along, and if you don't like it in 2010+ then you're """dumb"""
ignore them

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>>727841519
>even the genuinely mentally ill would at least need a break

Why would they need to take a break? I've dealt with crazy people all my life, because I was here on 4chan, and that's how I know it's a mentally ill person.
I went to sleep between the start of this thread and now, and the nutjob is still here. That means he just sits with the thread open all day. I wonder if that guy even has another thread open. I mean I do, but I'm also the only reply in that thread, which tells me the anon above may actually have one thread open.

>>727839693
yes, if your only thought when d&d is mentioned is a theater kids' faggy podcast you are a tourist, plain and simple.

>>727793191
>I’m just watching NPCs from a drone as they go about their shit in comba
this is the main reason why this flair of RPGs is dogshit. You aren't actually taking the role of YOUR character, you're managing a party. Like a poor man's RTS, or like a schizo loner who plays tabletop games with himself

>>727841779
There are literal sponsored videos on CR's channel you stupid fucking gook

>>727791279
did you not read the post that was a response to

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>>727841519
>>727841770
You (samefag) are on a shift for a shill farm like usual. Nothing your firm has done in the past 2 years is believable. You can drop the act whenever you feel like. We have been laughing at you the whole time.

>>727841904
Is it a shill farm or one guy called dragonrian? You never decided on it tencent, schizo.

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>>727841976
It's most likely swen, since he lost funding from bg3 flopping and has nothing better to do.

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>>727841770
Having dealt with an infinite number of crazies, I can tell you that there's only one winning move. You basically just refuse their existence. I'll show what I mean. What's the difference between someone who didn't post and someone who posts but you got rid of everything? No difference at all.

>>727787675
because spell slots and because no action points, you can thank d&d. dos2 had better combat.

If it's not paid shills or a larian marketing person, it's an unhinged janny. Anyone else would have been banned for shit like this >>727841560
That's just reality

>>727842004
Deranged schizo-kun, before you even know about Larian's existence, their previous game, Divinity: Original Sin 2, had already sold more than 7.5 million copies primarily on PC. You sincerely need to take your medication.

>>727842004
>deflecting after being caught in a contradiction again
Lel

>>727787675
What's wrong with the combat? It's just normal turn based shit. You fags say always vague shit like "it's boring" as if it was supposed to mean anything.

Both sides in these threads always assume that if you have an issue with Baldur's Gate 3 combat, it's because you don't like turn based.

I like Reverse Collapse. I like Final Fantasy Tactics. I didn't like BG3, because bg3 is WAY too fucking slow. That includes animations, that includes the actual encounters themselves being bloated and taking too fucking long. Divinity was even worse for this.

>>727791279
>anti-BG3 thread
>it’s just a brainlet filtered by turn-based combat

>>727792920
He called his lover back and bound her in a painting because he was given necromancy tools and was shit at it.

>>727841815
you can't even get slurrs straight, newfag. you're supposed to use chink.
>muh litteral video
again, if it's your first thought you're a fag tourist

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Give me a fun cleric build to support three retards on multiplayer without dying of boredom as someone who already finished honour

>>727787675
>Am I suppose to save scum
… No? How are you so bad at turn based combat

>>727846809
Storm. Use call lightning and “accidentally” knock them off cliffs whenever you get bored

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>turn-BASED combat actually, unironically filters zoomers
lol wtf

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>he's still bumping
>for SEVENTEEN HOURS

>>727787675
>Savescum combat in bg3
Retard
Take 5 seconds to read the PHB or something because you're obviously one of those 'tards that has no idea how 5e works

>>727841671
>gets party wiped by a level 1 crowd control spell
positioning and party composition matters a lot

>>727847276
For me it was the igmiss saga, because they were all too stupid to grasp why using an intelligence attack with 10/8 int characters was a bad idea

>>727846809
If you want to be a full buffcuck you can't go wrong with life domain and the support item package - all those rings and gloves that give bonus hp, blade ward and bless on heal, and keep them up with preserve life/mass healing ward. Which would allow you to free up concentration for spirit guardians/hold person and shit like that.
But that's probably not very interesting. So maybe you can pretend to be a wizard and sling fireballs and destructive waves as light domain while your improved warding flare protects your peeps.
To be honest it's hard to go wrong with any cleric domain as the class has so many good spells you'll rarely feel useless regardless of what you've picked

>>727835349
The only ones you need are enemy spotted and trap detected really, character killed so you know when to reload a save since going to town to res them is a major waste of time.

>>727847591
What about war domain for the holy knight rp?

>>727848531
Sure, that works, although I struggle to think of what buffs does war domain cleric provide as opposed to a paladin. I guess cleric has more spell slots and better spell progression, but I'd still probably go with pally for my holy magic warrior role play.
But I will admit, I have very little experience with war domain outside of 1 lvl dip for the meme bonus action attack

>>727787675
>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
oof imagine being too stupid for Baldurs Gate 3

>Am I supposed to savescum all the time?
That's how BG1 and BG2 are played, yes, quicksaving is the most valuable skill in BG1.

>>727849651
>he didnt beat the game no reload with difficulty mods and 2x damage

skill issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMXkYtp5TXM

>>727849845
real time with pause is the most retarded shit ever ngl

>>727849989
Wrong.

>>727849989
life is real time not turn based, think about that

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>game claims to have deep RPG choices and allow players to do anything they desire if they’re creative enough
>no option to make this little green gobbo slut my personal onahole
trash game

>>727788146
>BG3 pauses the game for you, which is what turn based is.
False. In the pause example you pause only when you need to do something fast. In this everyone does an action after another instead of all at once.

>>727850071
owlcat games also conceded it sucks

>>727850215
I really don't understand why people enter a BG3 thread if they want to talk about the dated garbage instead. I can only assume the 90% filtered section is getting to people. Guess we'll add the thread and then the NPCs can stop replying to me.
>noooo i can't make a thread about the garbage i want to discuss and get filtered like the vast majority of the board at all times and i need to hijack threads
Woops, everyone sent to the void where I don't even read your shit in passing.

>>727850229
And so did Obsidian for that matter

>>727850581
>>727850229
they think BG3 sold well because it was turn based, they are retarded lmao, Owlkek even has direct proof with wh40 Rogue trader

>>727787675
I play RPGs for stories, characters, escapism, cool worlds, I thought that was the point of tabletop games, to get together with friends and go on a escapist adventure in a fantasy world? Who gives a fuck about boring excel numbers and spreadsheets, wut

>>727850481
>responds to an incorrect post
>why do you enter this thread?
Quit shitposting, child.

>>727851567
theres an easy mode in the game for people like you if your ego can handle it
actually now that i think about it, the combat is remarkably easy even on the highest difficulty if you just think about your abilities for two seconds

>>727851567
believe it or not way more people actually care about "excel spreadsheets" than story. Which is why RPG subgenre diablolikes are infinitely more popular than crpgs.
Sucks for you not being able to enjoy both things I guess

>>727849989
its actually turn based, all spells and abilities obey 6s round rule, you drink a potion but want to use spell now. too bad u used your action and need to wait for another "round". Every weapon, spell has speed factor stat so fast weapons and spells are actually valuable because powerful looking yet slow casting spells(up to 6s!) can and will be interrupted wasting you spell slot and action. Its much more realistic system than making arbitrary initiative rolls where you character moves in predefined order and boss patiently waits and watches when 4 chars take action, your spells can never get interrupted and can be pixel perfect aimed with AoE.

>>727787675
Just go back to your GTA or CS, bro.