none of them because they're all still around.
>>727810648Cope
Atari's lack of quality control straight up killed the industry for years. Sega and Xbox merely shrink in size as a result of continuous stupid decisions, with Xbox's retardation being permanently cushioned by Microsoft's infinite money.
>>727810690You got me. I'm absolutely sobbing right now.
>>727810379Shitendo
>>727810798It killed the industry in the west tho
>>727810965cope
>>727810379Atari and it's not even close.
>>727811354why
>>727811430took the entire western gaming industry down with it
>>727811451ah
>>727810798>Sega and Xbox merely shrink in sizesega absolutely died a death and "merged with" (got bought up by) a pachinko company
>>727810379Atari had the biggest fall from grace, but Sega had the most unfortunate fall and Xbox had the most painfully slow fall.
>>727810379Rookie deaths.
>>727811687One must be alive before one can die.
>>727810379Sega because there were numerous, well-intentioned people who threw up warning signals for year and SoJ management ignored them all. Atari never came back after 1983. Xbox really gave up after the One wasn't a hit, they didn't even have a Sega-type internal fight over it.
>>727811687You have to actually sell something to die
>>727811548Sega left the console market, but it still is strong enough to produce games and side media.Atari, on the other hand, was bought multiple times and barely exists as a publisher that survives by scamming retarded retrofags.
>>727810379Xbox>SEGA died in a last huzzah dropping quality and good last console>Atari collapsed by dropping too much shit; usual collapse>Xbox went from selling +80 million units to +30 (and lowering) with clear identity and exclusives to no exclusives, shitty in house games, identity crisis as a brand AND billions in debt due acquisitions that will take time to pay off
>>727812072thats fair but the jaguar was so bad
>>727811005So a majority of the industry, got it.
>>727812265japan was pretty big at the time
>>727811807>Sega because there were numerous, well-intentioned people who threw up warning signals for year and SoJ management ignored them all.Ah, yes; the well intentioned people that made calls that made Saturn a complete disgrace of a failure outside Japan
>>727812259If you can believe it the initial plan was to release TWO consoles, one 32 but and one 64.
>>727810379Atari managed to cause the first major vidya crash and made sock puppet companies to con people into investing by making the illusion of a booming industry. Activision may have initially been one of these but that's up for debate.There's no contest, Atari's death is like a bloated whale carcass next to two dead ants.
>>727812531of course atari would be so fucking retarded
>>727812448Kalinske was screaming at them for years that the future was 3D, no one in America would want an arcade port focused system, and that they needed a Sonic game and if they couldn't do these things they should have stayed on the Genesis for longer. He was right about everything, considering the Saturn was dead in Japan pretty quickly.
>>727810379>dreamcastkino>jaguaractual dogshit>series s/xway better than the jaguar at leastatari's death was the worst i think, fans got fucked over the hardest that gen because it had no gaems for real. the series s/x still got games at least, even if xbox losing is kinda the most pathetic.
>>727810379Atari couldn't make anything better than the 2600. They didn't even last a few generations like sega or microsoft did. Any other answer is wrong
Atari, I can't think of a good game they made recently.Most recent that comes to mind is this. And that says a lot.
>>727812743>fans got fuckedthere wasn't even a proper industry bt then...
Seg -ACK will die in your lifetime.
>>727810379Nintendo
>>727812863the jaguar was released in 1993. it came out a year before the ps1 and saturn.
>>727810379Atari by a long shot, it nearly destroyed the industry's progress just as it developed past Pong-boxes.SEGA comes second for being as abrupt as it was, going from Nintendo's biggest competitor to the industry joke.Xbox is last for managing to linger as long as it did and willingly choosing to fizzle out into irrelevancy.
Nintendo
Shitendo is bankrupts, so them
>>727810379Old Sega is still remembered fondlyAtari was memory holedXbox would be forever a laughing stock
>>727812954>>727813080cope 15 million Switch 2's sold >>727813232
>>727812659>considering the Saturn was dead in Japan pretty quickly.now you're just making shit up
>>727813030>Atari fansThere were no fans, anon. Only journo shilling and an, already dying company in death row by then.
>>727812659the saturn outsold the n64 in japan
>>727813373He's not troo far; PS2's release was that threatening to sega
This thread reminded me of the old AVGN video on the 5200. So let me get this straight.The 5200 controllers were notorious for not working at all, we're not talking Switch joycon drift, we're talking the controller just straight up not functioning at all.And Atari never bothered to fix this?
>>727813318Already been debunked
>>727813734>snoys can't accept the switch 2 is a success so they have to make up stuff
>>727813592Shitendo is worse
>>727813802Shitendo is the one making things up. Less than 5 million actually sold, the rest is SHIPPED, NOT SOLED
>>727810648Isn't modern "Atari" a different company that just bought the brand?
>>727813554Off the games of the past.
>>727813932>SOLEDhello SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>727813592How were you supposed to even use that thing? Looks like remote and arcade controller taped together.
This isn't even a conversation. Atari's crash was so bad it killed the vidya industry basically everywhere outside of Japan and almost killed it in Japan. It took the NES being released almost 2 years later to revive it.
>>727814086Go. Fuck. Your. Self.
>>727810379Scamtendo. their last console was the gamecube as far as im concerned. shitty motion control shovelware gimmicks and faggy tablets are all they can put out now
xbox had zero excuse to fail, they had infinite money
>>727814141The games came with little plastic inserts you would slide over the numerical keys and they would tell you what each button does.It's as shitty as it sounds, doubly so since the controller didn't work anyway
>>727814332>15 Million sold>Snoy mind can't accept it
>>727814228>Atari's crash was so bad it killed the vidya industry basically everywhereMongoloid. It was America AND console only. Arcades did fine, and so did computer games. Electronic Arts' focus on computer software (founded in 1982) allowed them to survive just fine.
>>72781458215 million? thats how many cocks you sucked
>>727814582Less than 5 million sold. 15 million SHIPPED
>>727814756>>727814797>Snoy can not accept Nintendo doing well every year
>>727815470lmao
>>727814484>>727813592God. I actually still own one of these fucking things in a closet somewhere.
>>727810379Sony. They’ve been trying their hardest to cover it up but it’s all coming out
>>727816096Thats like having cancer in your home
>>727814797But enough about Sony claiming 80 million shipped when only 30 million have been sold
>>727816148My family were all very early adopters of tech. I grew up with internet and consoles in the home in the late 80s. We have a ton of old shit lying around.
>>727812870no.. please no
>>727816257huh
>>727816257My family was not, one of seven, shared a psp and didnt have internet till 2013
>>727812072Atari had a pretty successful computer business going until they decided to drop it and focus entirely on the Jaguar, which pretty much ended them. That's what I've heard.
>>727816770they did, sold excellent in Europenow they just make shit consoles
>>727810379Sega, hands down. They're responsible for a ton of heinous shit in the industry today.Atari fizzled out and was replaced by something better. Xbox is still an active money printer.
>>727810379Sega pulling out of the hardware race marked the beginning of the end of video games as we knew them. Generation 6 was a disaster.
Xbox because the parent company is still rich as fuck but Xbox flew too close to the sun by buying Actiblizz. The MS higher ups straight up said "why are we doing exclusives?" and now Xbox is prioritizing PS5 and PC because the games sell better there.
>>727810379
>>727810379The only correct answer is shitendo
>>727810648Atari now is just a brand bought by investors wanting to make a quick buck on licensing deals for limited toys and retro devices. The actual Atari died decades ago.>>727813996Yes it is.
>>727817793>727817793>Consoles only 6 months old>more games than the PS5lmao
>>727810379Is a semi-custom locked down device with specs that can't be changed a console or a PC. I'm asking this because of the Steam Machine and next Xbox?
>>727818149>>727818075
>>727810798Sega died and had to merge with Sammy, Xbox isn't being cushioned anymore, Microsoft killed it, it's just the gaming side of Windows now, a fate worse than death.
>>727817289Atari didn't fizzle out, they fucking imploded. E.T. sold like 2.5 million copies in fucking 1982 and Atari still printed such a retarded amount of cartridges banking on brand recognition that they tanked themselves. People need to know that E.T. was actually successful commercially but Atari just went too ham on that shit. Maybe they paid too much for the rights, who fucking knows, but they spent too damn much on it one way or the other.
>>727810379Sega. They had an amazing console but invested too much into online before "console gamers" knew the potential of online play. Then their flagship online title PSOv.1 came out when it was already too late and the PS2 had already capsized the Dreamcast. If Sega really wanted to sell their online gaming to consumers they should have had PSOv.1 ready to go by July or the start of August 2000 in North America in order for word of mouth to get around and cancel out PS2 hype. Do a double add campaign with Quake 3 Arena to sell it to the Amerimutts. But solely relying off of Quake 3 to sell the online was not enough to eclipse the PS2. Plus Quake 3 Arena came out mere days before the PS2 launch. Bad fucking move.Xbox imo had the best console death. They brought a lot of shit to the industry and tried to jew gamers out of owning titles. Xbox died the day Peter Moore got kicked. I don't like the guy personally, but he did invest in studios that made GAMES! But his head needed to roll after he caused the RRoD fiasco and I'm pretty sure that's kind of the "real reason" why he was fired.Atari was doomed since the Tramiel family gained control of it. They were always blinded by attaining money which is typical of Jews like them. It bit them in the ass constantly and it just ended up catching up to them. They were just chasing trends with no real plan. Jag was launched quickly without enough dev time cause the company ended up getting strapped for cash cause of massive previous failures. Almost a nothing burger really. Only worse deaths than them would be 3do or Ouya. But as anon said here >>727811715 pretty much sums up both of them. At least the 3do guy spends his days hitting on college age girls and coasting off of a uni professor salary.
>>727818452reminder
It's really amazing how braindead everybody at Atari was>thinks et and pac man are going to be so big they make more carts than consoles on the market>make the 5200 but forget that the controller needs to function>push out the 7800 once they remember they have a console in storage but it's shittier than the nes>actually thought the jaguar had a chance with how shit its controller was and how shit it was to develop for>actually thought the jaguar cd was worth making
>>727810379Atari, it literally killed the vidya industry for a while
>>727819138You forgot>releases a brand new console in the 8th gen with power less than a fucking 2014 pc
>>727810798>Atari's lack of quality control straight up killed the industry for years.ONLY IN AMERICA
>>727819413it's hilarious suits keep parading atari's name around like it's meant shit in the past 40 years.
>>727810379Either Atari or commodore.Tramiel was fucking retarded.
>>727819931At this point, it is a barely recognizable carcass that has a namco and a activision stamp on it.
Probably Atari.Xbox or Sega were never market leaders
>>727810379Sega was the most tragic. Microsoft won't be effected at all by the Xbox they wipe their ass with the kind of money they lost on that so that one's the biggest nothing burger. Atari hasn't don't anything good since they decided to publish temple of elemental evil for troika.Sega on the other hand used to make incredible games but they lost their passion and pride with the loss of their hardware business. Same will happen to Nintendo if they ever met the same fate they'll be a shadow of their former self.
>>727810379Sega>be in an uphill battle >make several retarded decisions in a row>start getting your shit together >new competitor nukes you out of existence with a DVD player Xbox>enter race for retarded reasons>use clout to completely change the industry for better and for worse>actually become the dominant console for a few years>proceed to destroy all your studios and brand appeal for no good reason over a two decades of non-stop humiliation Atari>don't care, didn't ask
>>727819761So, the only place it mattered? Your awful shitware eurojank PC games will never be relevant.
>>727811627>t Sega had the most unfortunate fall and Xbox had the most painfully slow fall.Sega basically had a major Wipeout in Gen V and were done. MS on the other hand has the kind of funds to make the Xbox division implode at quarter speed. Zzzzzzzzzz
>>727820578Japan mattered much more to gaming than muttistan ever did
>>727812072I thought about making a long video showing the (de)evolution of the Xbox brand over time, starting with Halo, Ninja Gaiden, DOA, Fable and Gears of War, then declining after the Kinect. But I realized that they never had a strong brand identity to begin with. Very quickly third parties took over with shit like Call of Duty and Skyrim, and Xbox never really capitalized on that. They acquired those studios many years later, but that was well after their brand identity was completely diluted.
>>727819931New guy in charge is pretty goodHe's buying every IP for sale
>>727820775Long story short Peter Moore was solid at his job. All of those brands flourished under his tenure, dude cooked for like 6 years. Then he left and no one competent ever replaced him.
>>727820775I had a 360 and basically just played indies off of the arcade, losing that as indie publishing to pc got easier also hurt them
>>727820373Sony is going to die out hard
>>727821078XBLA was totally ahead of its time, Steam got ahead of them but they were there first.
How did Playstation die so hard, and why do people still shill it?
>>727821398Good. Pc + Nintendo is the only combo worth a shit.
>>727821536>How did Playstation die so hardUnfortunately it hasn't.>and why do people still shill it?Brand loyalty.
>>727821536PS just owns the normie market now that xbox shit their pants
>>727812954The Wii U did seemed like a Dreamcast-tier failure for a while. The handhelds saved them.
>>727821606>Unfortunately it hasn't.Seems like it has. Nobody I know owns a PS5 yet we're supposed to believe somehow Sony sold 80 million PS5s when they only announce it as shipped?>>727821617Nah Nintendo does, Normies don't give a shit about PS5 they think it's gay as fuck.
>>727821651The Dreamcast was REALLY good for the 2 years it was alive, it was legitimately game after game. It was crazy.
>>727821697no way, nintendo has the mainstream 'gamer' market by the balls but your average gun-and-ball normgroid wants a playstation 5
>>727815470>Gold required for Netflix Microsoft cannot stop themselves.
>>727821731The Dreamcast had a strong launch but it vanished from existence once the PS2 came out. Literally all the stock stopped selling.
>>727821764Nah they don't. Nobody I know talks about how much they want a PS5, and I don't hear anybody talking about it. All Sony does is play with numbers to try and make it look like they're not screwed.
>>727820989Don Mattrick was a absolute disaster for the Xbox brand and they've still never recovered from that Xbox One reveal. The Kinect was his project and Microsoft wasted so much effort producing shitty shovelware for that stupid camera device that absolutely no one gives a crap about anymore.
>>727821824IIRC even now you need to have an Xbox sub on top of an FFXIV sub if you play on Xbox. Shit is wild.
How does Sony get away with this bullshit without anyone auditing them?https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-portal-sales-console/https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/11/ps-portal-will-be-tracked-as-a-console-by-usa-data-firm-circanahttps://n4g.com/news/2576242/playstation-portal-sales-will-be-tracked-as-a-console
>>727818448It's a PC since you can install any OS you want. You ate not gonna get sued for modifying the hardware either.
>>727821697>>727821895No one "wants" a PS5, they buy one because they're supposed to. Total NPC box.
I mean, Atari took the whole industry with it, so...hard to top that.
>>727818958>Quake 3 on consolesDead on arrival.
>>727822174True
>>727820989Peter Moore was great and knew how to make shooters and sports look cool to gamers and dudebros alike.
>>727821536Sony took over the normie and hardcore audiences with the PS4 and they will not lose it unless the Steam Machine is a big success.
>>727821536It still sells a lot. Best selling console on black Friday. Japan is an outlier due to tiny apartments.
>>727810379Atari was fucking guttedIt's now someone else wearing its company name like a skin suit that only reacquired what little notable IPs they had through acquisitions for cheap
>>727817385>Generation 6 was a disasterWhy do you say that exactly?
Reminder that the French version of Atari lived longer than all of the American incarnations combined. It's their brand now.
>>727810379Sega is and forever will be the greatest video game company of all time. >b-but N-Ninten-Brainwashed and raped.
>>727822872you know some good games for sega consoles? I've been trying to get more into them recently
>>727822594Nintendo has had a monopoly on handhelds since the Vita died, and handhelds have dominated Japan for decades now.
>>727823045Anything konami.Konami was secretly the best developer for the sega genesis, and almost every konami game for the genesis is an exclusive that is different from the snes.From the head, only sunset riders is the same.
>>727817385>>727822802Probably a Sega fan who never moved on, or a Nintendo cultist who is still upset about the PS2.
>>727822550>MS took over the normie and hardcore audiences with the 360 and they will not lose it unless the Ouya is a big success.
>>727823045NTA but here's some good series on the consoles going back to the Master System>Alex Kidd>Wonder Boy>Shinobi>Shining series>Sonic (obviously)There's a ton of them.
>>727823076After finally using a Switch 2, I get it. The convenience of lying in bed and playing in handheld mode is really nice and the overworked nips might wanna do that a lot.
>>727823220>MS took over the normie and hardcore audiences with the 360Hardcore gamers yes, but normies were far more into the Wii at the time. Xbox lost hardcore gamers because of the Kinect making their brand look lame and gay, then the Xbox One was a killing blow that gave everything to Sony.Normies is an interesting case. Older normies play games as a fad and quit after a while (see: Wii, iPhone apps), but the the kids who grow up with Nintendo consoles eventually move onto adult consoles (Xbox, PlayStation) and maybe even PC gaming.
>>727823359Most people do that with their phones.
>>727820848Where are they getting this money from? Whatever entity calls themselves Atari nowadays can't possibly be making enough for that.
>>727823858Probably some French glowie consortium.
>>727823323Don't forget Phantasy Star. That series was at least as good as Final Fantasy and Dragon QuestThere were some other great Sega series like Outrun,Golden Axe and Space Harrier as well
>>727824013I just rambled off the ones at the top of my head, but yeah you're right. I had most of those on my Master System and Genesis.
>>727823858Atari just bought five studios for like 40 million euros man idk
>>727824618Fair
>>727822086So, a console like the Switch and PlayStation and PC like the Steam Machine and upcoming Xbox are the same but Nintendo and Sony have locked down proprietary OSs while Valve and Microsoft have open OSs?
Xbox cause they literally were in everyone's good graces till the Xbone
>>727826258>till KinectFTFY. Xbox as a brand had already been shitting the bed before the Xbone announcement. That's a big part of why it was so damaging - they had something to lose.
>>727823045Play SEGA arcade games.
>>727812863Jesus Christ I fucking hate you zoomers. Shut up about things you didn't experience first-hand.
>>727827424Who was the US president when you were born?
>>727828448Reagan, you absolute fetus.
>>727828659You are too old to have valuable opinions about video games. Don't post on my board anymore.
