oh wow who would have thought that making this easier and more streamlined would have this effect, man this is truly unexpected I think we should give every single kid an ipad with roblox at birth to make up for this

>>727812071
not opening this shit, buy an ad faggot

I noticed that as late as the PS2/GC era, normie mainstream games would OCCASIONALLY have little things that hurt your brain thinking "What the fuck am I supposed to do to advance?"

And in seventh gen that basically stopped, now you've got yellow paint and protags muttering to themselves

>>727812071
which games should I be playing for maximum brain gains?

>>727812510
I noticed there is a bifurcation in games these days. Either the game is absolutely braindead and designed to keep you playing forever, or it's this https://store.steampowered.com/app/2802710/Quantum_Odyssey/

every article about how kids are getting dumber is trying to run cover for white genocide by blaming the downfall of society on random shit like video games

>>727812071
FFS, if you're gonna use AI to generate a picture of kids playing games instead of using stock footage, no USB ports or player LEDs on top of those PS3 controllers, I'm convinced the rest of your article is BS.
On topic though, this article cites no study or other type of proof. Asking 2 people their opinions about 90's gaming does not prove anything about it being "better for kids' brains", even if they have "counselor" in their job title.

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>>727812740
I'm ever so slightly doxing myself here but the other day on a whim I googled the Catholic school I went to as a kid
It closed in 2021 and this was the final class lol

>>727812912
I noticed that too, this isn't even a real story, it's not even a real study, they aren't even real psychologists

This is just "old man yells at cloud"

>>727812740
while this is 100% true, the op picture is still correct. friction in vidya is good for kids

>>727813021
If you think everyone isn't getting dumber it's because you're dumb.

Each and every generation gets more dumb as time goes on and they don't even know how dumb they are.

Just a fact, kid.

>>727812532
Prof. Layton

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>>727812071
>Having a full quality game is actually better than drip feeding garbage over the course of years

For example, none of you could even turn your ADD off long enough to read the source of the study.

"Veronica Lichtenstein, a licensed mental health counselor and former teacher" and probably more.

>>727814596
A counselor isn't a psychologist, and their opinion isn't a study.

I know you are pretending to be retarded but I must point this out for the benefit of any actual retards reading this

>>727812071
No shit? Games where you could actually lose and solve puzzles are going to wire your brain differently than modern slop with accessibility in mind. "No child left behind" has infiltrated vidya and vidya is much worse for it. Whenever a game DOESN'T do that, people freak the fuck out like with Silksong.

>>727814596
No one needs to read a "study" because everyone already knows it's the truth.

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>>727812071
No shit, Sherlock!

>>727814709
I thought no child left behind was meant to mean that the struggling ones get more attention from the school.

>>727814704
I will clarify. People much smarter than you know you are fucking stupid. Understand now?

>>727815046
The end result is that even if that fails, they pass them through regardless. It's basically impossible for a kid to be held back these days in the US. You can do nothing and still graduate as long as you show up.

>>727812740
Its both. We are getting dumber and the countries are also getting browner. Amusing Ourselves to Death covers this pretty well.

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Experts said video games were bad in the 1990s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UREUnuLYK14

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>games were infinitely better back then; more fun, more challenging, more stimulating
>the people that played them enter the industry
>proceed to produce unmitigated slop of the lowest quality imaginable
>the kids who had to grow up with THAT are entering the industry now
>they're actually making gameplay-first modern classics in the indie scene
What a silly cycle

/v/ is actually talking about an AI article
You retards deserve AI

>>727815046
Problem is teachers at the end of the day do not give a shit. If there's 25 students and 20 of them are passing while the other 5 aren't, and they're "urban" so you know they aren't going to attend Tutoring or study on their own, what do you do?
Pass them and move on. And it happens again. And again. And again. Now you got 20 kids who are, let's say, seniors with a senior intellect, while 5 kids are seniors with the intellect of an 8th grader.

The American Education system was always severely lacking, but No Child Left Behind was the death of it.

Video games.

>>727812740
The search for explanations concerning the atrocious birthrates everywhere is even better. It's literally everything else except for the tiny factor of running a decade+ of
>straight attraction and everything it includes bad, every other human dead end relationship good
propaganda and censorship through all media.

>>727813021
>>727814325
ONLY PRIEST TALK OF GODS!
You no priest? Grug no listen!

>>727815887
That's not american, that's just multicultural. When you get kids of your own culture (by which I don't mean vague things like "western" but really niche local cultures like the differences between nearby districts in the same country), you will invest into them because you know that they will be treated at home the way you would treat them at school. When you have no idea what's happening when you're not in direct control, it's not worth the investment anymore. Add endless anecdotes of parents fucking their kids over to that and you just stop caring, or - more likely - quit your job to do something more rewarding. My cousin worked as a teacher for a while in the capital, and after dozens of students that he tried to help getting completely fucked by their immigrant parents not giving a shit (insane shit like him basically acting as a surrogate dad for them, keeping hem after school to help them with all sorts of non-school related stuff, and the parents not caring at all what was happening), he quit his job and returned to our home town. His dad (my uncle) still works as a teacher in the capital, but he says it's completely fucked now and he has no hope for the future and is just looking forwards to retirement. This being a guy who's worked as a teacher his whole life and been successful until very recently for very recent reasons. Not that kids haven't always failed in school, but apparently it has gotten incredibly much worse. Read a study recently that concluded that millennials were the last generation to have higher IQs than their parents on average. After millennials, for the first time in recorded history, population IQ have not only stopped increasing but has started declining. Kids unironically are getting measurably dumber.

>>727815046
>>727815887
Less about the teachers and more about the administration half the time, I suspect.
They actually get paid fairly well, and are the most disconnected from the well being of the students.
They are gonna be the ones caring about timmy two-digit's IQ dragging their school down in the rankings and demanding he be passed anyways to meet quota or whatever other bullshit.

>>727812532
Anki

You mean "games" trying to play on your frustration so you buy more microtransaction are bad ? Whoah who could have knew

>>727812532
Q remastered

>>727812952
why are you a nigger

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no fucking shit
levels that make you use 100% of your brain like this don't exist anymore

>>727812071
bull

>>727815631
there's this strange phenomenon in media where, somebody doesn't produce great works just because they were exposed to it from a young age. instead, they have to actively and consciously be aware of what they're experiencing so they can absorb that into their own work
a great example is wes craven, one of the most influential, if not THE most influential horror directors ever. his parents didn't even allow him to watch movies growing up and he only started watching movies when he was in college

>>727818997
someone posted a story here once about his dad waked him and his sibling up to come to the computer because he had figured out the midas puzzle

>>727812071
>black boy and white girls

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>>727812071
We're now at the point where the games are being made for and by retards.
Games are now made by people who grew up in the post "we want the wider audience" age of vidya.

>retarded legacy news outlet i always blast for spouting retarded shit says something i agree with
YOOO SO TRUE BASED

>>727819598
i remember reading that, lol
it seems like everybody has a story about their parent or a non-gamer being obsessed with the original tomb raider games
unfortunately modern games just don't have that connection with people anymore despite the market dwarfing what it used to be when tomb raider 1 was new

>>727812740
White kids are getting dumber too, kids getting dumber (all) because of education and ipads and shit games is a different phenomenon to kids performing "dumber" statisticaly because of racial demographics

Both things can be true

>>727819768
tomb raider seems to be a special case. it sold 7 million on psx alone, i cant find any pc numbers but i feel like it should be similar. few games has the oppertunity to have such a reach.
but it does still happen, stardew valley for example i feel like reaches the same audience and people would have similar stories with

>>727812724
It's been impossible to miss. The few games that let you turn off the hints really stand out now, like Jedi Fallen Order. But it still keeps nagging you about it when you're in a puzzle room.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider did a better job, letting you disable everything including bird poop and completely shutting up, but it also highlights how the environment isn't actually designed around not having hints.

yes the yellow paint quest arrow crap makes you retarded
90s games were unironically difficult to beat and not in an artificial difficulty soulsslop way either

There certainly is a limit on how much video games you play versus your ability to create good video games. Most of the people known and credited for being part of developing video games are only fans of like 1-3 games. It isn't like film or books, where consumption has some sort of proportional growth with insight of the medium.

>>727820447
>stardew valley
isnt that game extremely easy to understand and play?

>>727812532
go
katrain is free and includes better than pro AI
I also play with Just Go on steam because it looks nicer

I think the progression from morrowind -> oblivion -> skyrim illustrates nicely how games got more retarded

>>727820781
It is but even it is “too complicated” for some.

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Historical management sims is where my limits to cognitive load goes that at least still hits some point of interest for me.

>90s
>colored shitskin in the same home as a white girl
>girl playing video games at all
lmao

>>727821057
what is supposed to be wrong there, kid?

dont quote my posts you jeet shitskin animal

>>727815631
Part of the problem are shareholders, investors and the corporate structure who want to make quick buck while fucking up the customer hard in the ass.

AA productions seems to get a decent balance in terms of output.

Games these days are just live service slop that train them to be prepared for a life of slavery to get daily crumbs. Buy the battle pass. Buy the season pass. Log in every day to get an award. Do simple tasks. Just brainless repetitive shit.

>>727819717
Who the fuck has any particular opinion about Newsweek, boomer?

>>727815887
That's not the teacher's fault dude. They can't teach 30 kids when one of them is always seconds away from jamming a fork in the outlet. They either make sure the other 29 are doing okay or fail them all.

>games are good
>games are bad

so which is it??

>>727821951
That's it though, they put teachers in an unwinnable position where they pass everyone or fail everyone including the students who don't deserve it
What a shit show it was. Thanks Bush

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>>727812071
If that were true then the millennials today wouldn't make so many shitty games. It's all marvel quip dei bullshit.

I remember some article teasing some "features" for ps4 in which they would have you connect a fucking phone and if you wanted to open a goddamn MENU, they'd want you, the player, to put down the fucking controller in your hands, pick up a phone, wait for it to connect, and do your stupid menu shit.
Instead of... you know... pressing a fucking menu button and bringing up a menu. Snoy thought this was the most brilliant and innovative thing. Just making you drop all focus for this "feature."
Anyway, the point I'm trying to make here is that devs are cut from this same stock of retards who think they should do this kind of thing. Just have you go full ADHD during a videogame on purpose. No fucking wonder they're implementing shit that makes you measurably dumber.

>>727812071
Nah unc I fr be playing steal a brainrot for 10 hours a day and ts is pure flame. Im not finna play with that skibbidy ahhhh unc zelda

>make a click bait article for gullable millennials
>they gulp it down and even advertise it for free
Grim.

>>727824380
fr fr steal a brainrot >>> OoT

>>727824380
You can tell this is a genuine zoomer because xe never considered actually reading the article.

kids taste in vidya is only going to get worse and worse as people with actual good taste in vidya aren't the type to reproduce, so no one is able to instill patrician taste into the future generations
it's unironically over

>>727825152
I honestly think gaming will die out as a hobby for normalfags in a couple generations just due to economics.

>>727812532
la-mulana