Are we excited for the Nioh 3 demo anons? I'm doing a new 100% playthrough of Nioh 2 Complete right now and enjoying a Hayabusa/dragon sword build. I hope they keep the Ninja Gaiden collab stuff in 3.
More bootleg fromslop. Pass.
>>728296370I'm having a bit of a problem in Nioh 2. I was using a trainer to farm a smithing text and I fucked my proficiency values up, so I reset them to what they were before with cheat engine and now the game says I gained skill points, but there's never any to allocate. What do?
They are completely retarded with the demo timing. Should've released it now and left it open until release.
>>728296575Seppuku you fucking non-playing cheating faggot>pcfags call cheats trainers to cope
>>728296370Yes but I was hoping they'd update the alpha and let me dick around in it some more right now.
I keep trying other weapons but nothing is quite like axe, something about massive damage off one hit just activates my brainProbably why I play greatsword in MH so much too
>>728298496Axe is about to get a massive buff from new mechanics in 3.
How do I use these fucking things
>>728298939What are you having trouble with?
>>728299282I feel like I just don't get themI throw them at enemies, but then they just get enraged and attack me, the skills seem slow and I can't combo with the skills then do a normal stringBut I've seen them be used in cool ways, I just don't get it
>>728298939Boulder Breaker + Greased Lighting are your core abilities. The second you realize how easily they allow you to control space around you, the weapon is going to click immediately. Everything else is honestly just a cherry on top.
>>728297509I work 60 hour weeks anon I'm not farming Ren Hayabusa for 20 hours for a text.
>>728296370will it have pvp? no idea why they remove that after the first game
>>728299438Why even play games if you're just going to cheat you fucking PC faggot?
>>728296370You forgot the bait. This thread is fucking dead.
>>728299482Fuck off, pvp nigger. You have plenty of pvp slop to indulge.
>>728299537It's better the thread is slow but genuine rather than fast but filled with a hundred posts about THAT other series
>>728299508cry more homo we dont all rely on EBT to farm a boss for 40 hours a week
>>728299650>i-i work 100 morbillion hours every day i don't have TIIIIIMEBut you have time to post here lmaoJust play a shorter game if you can't handle games without cheating
>>728296370So how different is the single ninja katana from the normal/Nioh 1&2 katana?
I WILL defeat the depths before 3 comes out
>>728299607i just want my hot asian waifu get ryona'd bro
where is the /axe/ anon?
>>728300257I'm slowly learning axe, after spamming high stance heavy and titanic strength, I'm determined to get actual depth out of this and prove everyone wrong
>>728300121You want the game to be neutered and boring due to PvP balancing.
>>728300409you make a good point
>buildfags in the nioh 3 demo: ERM IM DOING SO BAD CUZ OF THE BUILD OMG BAD GAME
>>728299372Okay, I'll give you my wall of autistic text. You want to unlock most of their skills and mystic art for them to work better first of all. Your main damaging throw is Piercing Hurl and when you combine it with Trained Throw, you get a damage bonus for releasing it at the right time. I recommend the Light version of throws for faster charge speed. Other important throws are Advancing Storm and Boulder Breaker. Advancing Storm keeps you moving while throwing, is fast, and lets you combo something right after since it has little recovery. It's not the strongest but it's easy to harass things with it frequently so think of it as your basic ranged light attack. Boulder Breaker is good for zoning enemies, you can flux into after a throw and retreat backwards a very large distance. You don't even need to charge it, just the regular minimally charged version is still good for creating space. Also you'll want Wild Surge, a dlc skill, for quickly closing gaps after certain throws. Lethal Barrage, Dual Hawks, and Deadly Spiral are all good melee options and Dual Hawks is good for range as well with it's timed follow-up. Demon Undercut is good for a strong ki nuke and will generally do a good job of breaking yokai ki. Hatchets are melee/ranged hybrid, you sort of just get used to going in and out of range as needed. The range can help let you capitalize on more openings once you get used to them. Bell Ringer is a good mid stance melee combo starter as well since it has low recovery so you can ki pulse quickly after it. But ideally try and create ranged combos with Boulder Breaker, Piercing Hurl, and Advancing Storm. So for example, use Advancing Storm while strafing left or right, then flux into an uncharged Boulder Breaker, then flux into Piercing Hurl, then go back into melee with Wild Surge.
>>728300919Awesome, thanks anon. I'll keep this in mind and soon become a HATCHETGOD
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>playing tengus disciple for the first time>yoshitsune is unironically one of the most kino bosses TN has ever made>unlock sub mission to fight him again>he has multiple shiftling forms now he's not constrained by ploti kneel
The amount of SOVL in this game is unreal, like you can transmog for free I might add, and edit your character completely for free, and if you transmog into Toyo then do the mission to save her grandpa, there's unique dialogue
>>728301419If you want to use them well, make sure you get good at the flux mechanic since you'll often be fluxing back to high stance for Piercing Hurl or even just chaining multiple Advancing Storms together. A lot of their melee skills have significant recovery on them which screws with people's ki pulse timing but you'll eventually get used to it. They're ultimately not a very beginner friendly weapon.
>>728301692>multiple shiftling formsare you talking bout nioh 3
>>728302701no, Yoshitsune in Tengus Disciple will use different shiftling forms in the side mission where you fight him.
>>728301419NTA but if you're on PC get the skills mod on nexus, it makes the hatchets a lot more funThat said, hatchets are basically a weird mixture of using 2kat with ranged but sometimes also heavy melee like it';s slow as the odachiThe big draw is that you can use piercing hurl: Light into the dash move to gap close if you want. Other than that move added, it was primarily 'attack at any range' and had some nice dps moves and good anti-human moves. The throws generally were best against yokai since they were nev er blocked and yokai have a habi of sperging the fuck outI only used hatchest in Nioh 2 for my first playthrough on release
>>728296575just restore your save backupyou DID make a backup right
>>728303353No, I didn't think setting drop rate would fuck with my proficiencies. I reset my skill points at dojo and I seem to be earning them okay now.
>>728301431Didn't expect a guest appearance by Yuugi but I'm not complaining.
this game is for MtFs who pretend they pass. Elden Ring clears Niowned.
>>728304461As a FtM, I agree
Just wanted to show that I'm about to finish getting All Achievements after playing on and off for 4 years, and this is the last achievement I need to get.t. literally only ever used Phantom
>>728300021No you won't and neither will I
i got 100% the first nioh and all the dlc. Im not gonna make it bros
>>728305653Based. It was my last on PS4 too because I love Feral too much.
>>728305831You will. Nioh 2 is better in every way. I was miserable after Nioh 1 100% and now Nioh 2 is like crack.
>>728296370>100%Anti-Yasuke-coons oh nonononono
the trailer just said ps5 demo, did they say if this is a new demo and if it'll be on pc as well?
Here's a weird idea: give us a melee weapon that's equipped in the ranged weapon slot. So maybe like a tanto or something. It would be sort of like a sub-weapon, you could do like a quick 3 hit combo with it and it would instantly combo after normal main weapon attacks. Maybe hold the input to throw it as well. It would just add variety really.
>>728296370does nioh 3 have jump cancel
Running Turtle Hayabusa build right now and i'm just raping everything it's ridiculous
How in the fuck do you play kusarigama
>>728306409Yeah it will be on Steam apparently
>>728308270>avoiding the projectile waves with Raijin at the endSex
>>728308792spin to win and abuse ki pulse
>>728299438You don't need to farm shit except for the skills if you want to use them and they drop more commonly in DotN. Smithing text farming is a meme, endgame builds don't need that shit.
>>728309757https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkdaGO0WnHU i was copying this fags advice to farm the texts early.
why was Nightmare Bringer so easy
>>728308792High stance chain pull into Leg Sweep is a guaranteed knockdown against humans.
>>728296370Looks neat but I am gonna miss being a half-yokai
>>728310969You don't need the texts to make a build. Provided you're on Dream of the Wise all you need is a single copy of the set you're aiming for to start the build. So kill Hayabusa a few times to get his full set, and if you're lucky you can get the smithing text in the process, and if you're not then well you don't need it.Once you have the set, equip it and afix Lucky Drop (Equipped Armor), Lucky Drop (Equipped Weapon), Lucky Drop (Equipped Accesory) according to your needs into your accessories using the blacksmith. Then just play the game, you'll get Ethereal/upgraded copies of the Hayabusa set just by playing the game. And for gear that doesn't come with a fixed set, then a Grace can be afixed to it randomly. You can further manipulate your luck in the Underworld (for example Grace of Susano only drops on floors that are multiple of 3). Then further manipulate your luck even more in the depths on the underworld where you have a hidden passive for Lucky Drop (Equipped Grace) and Scrolls that can have effects such as Lucky Drop (Inheritable effects), etc.
What are the odds that they bring back Wirriam and Hiddy for a double boss battle?
>New versions of Nekomata with different fur patterns Say no more, I'm sold
>>728315369Thanks anon, at least you didnt sperg out at me over a fucking drop %, your advice is very helpful.
Are there other games like wo long and final fantasty one good
>>728317739Yeah they're both good. If you like the Nioh series then you'll probably like them.
>>728317739Stranger of Paradise is so fucking kino it's unrealThere's a weird meme where people say it's like a PS2 game but I don't understand because no PS2 game ever played like that
Nioh lost me when the kino setup of a conflict between Wirriam-sama and Lady Maria of the Spanish Clocktower was eschewed in favor of yet *another* history lesson of the Sengoku period. Not only that, the whole thing was introduced and resolved in a single mission.
>>728315664It's likely as individual fights but I dunno about a double fight.
>>728319578>>728315664>Fighting Hiddy as a secret boss>youre about to beat them>Suddenly "Mysterious" begins playing>"Ohhhh, Hiddy. Don't fight this guy without me, okay?">Tokichiro appears and HIddy goes shiftling and they rape you in a duo attack you cant burst counterk i n o
>>728311439because most attacks only hit his frontand when he is in zero max Ki, he stays stunned for 10 whole seconds
Made DMC3 Lady.
>>728296370all fistsall the time
>>728320360Nice, the only thing I would say is Lady kind of has a wider head but unfortunately you can't change head shape like that in this game.
>>728320772Agreed, I wasn't able to chisel her jaw as much as I would have liked either.
i have to replay nioh 2, I drop it for some reason and never went back.
>>728319737We'll probably fight a grown-up version of William's son. Since time traveling shenanigans are involved, they can pretty much do whatever they want.
>>728320821I think the jaw and chin area looks accurate. I would make the upper lip a bit thicker and the mouth a bit smaller overall, but the rest is good. It depends on what you are using as a reference really since Lady's face is pretty different from the popular art of her compared to in-game.
>>728321692I was mostly using the DMC3 CG render of her as reference. It feels like the final result is more a blend of 3 and 4 Lady. If only we get some nice white jackets in Nioh 3, I'll make 5 MilfLady
>>728321798I am really hoping the bakumatsu setting means we get some western style clothing.
>hatchets got that one move from Khazan where you throw one, then gap close to retrieve it and attack with otherThis move should be good and it looks like it has fairly long range.
>>728322180i really hope berserker 2 has more weapons because the battle system is so fun
>>728296370I never finished NiOh 2
>>728322921I hope it either exists or that they at least make an expansion. It was a good action RPG at the start of the year and now we're getting Nioh 3 at the start of 26.
>>728323220dont forget CV2, i am fucking feasting
>>728296370After seeing how poorly balanced the endgame in the first two were (and how irredeemably bad the stranger of paradise dlc set was), no I am not unfortunately.These games have great first playthroughs and good core combat but everything falls apart later on due to team ninja's total and absolute refusal to properly balance their games.
>>728296370the demo comes out on my birthday and this makes me happy
>>728323380Not a CV fan but I am looking forward to Phantom Blade Zero later in the year. Well, I'll try a demo for CV2 if they put one out but I wasn't sold on the first one. I did like AI Limit though.
>>728300021i did (with the same goal in mind of beating depths befor nioh 3) and i'm a total, utter retard. i believe in you, anon. hell, if you're on pc, i'll even do an expedition with you
>>728301692the most fun i had in the depths was fighting yoshitsune 2bh. fun, challenging and not too bullshitty. well designed boss
>>728318794>play sengoku game>wtf what's with all the sengoku
>over 1k active players still 5 years laterhow do they do it
>>728324662it's a fun game. simple
>>728303704I believe that is Ibaraki-douji, ie Kasen
Why are the steam achievements for Nioh 2 different (easier) than PS5?
i'm not ready to move on from nioh 2, bros... it's gonna be sad to see nioh 2's online die when 3 comes out
>>728298939hatchets have unique dodge heavy attacks which are twice as fast, have more range and do the same damage as regular standing heavies. additionally you can dodge in low/mid, then preswitch to high to do high dodge heavies without having to go through the long high dodge roll animation, which invalidates the low/mid dodge heavies entirely once you get the hang of it. preswitched high dodge heavy is the strongest dodge attack in the game by far, and one of the highest dps attacks in the game when spammed by doing low dodge -> high heavy -> low preswitch -> low dodge ki pulse -> repeat. requires some quick inputs but very rewarding. also almost all of your basic attacks and a lot of skills can be item cancelled (including high heavy dodge attack :)), with long windows to do so. hatchets have a lot of weird bugs and jank that the game never explains (trigger a high running attack with light and heavy inputs and compare results) particularly to do with some extremely weird behaviour when sheathed (while sheathed in mid stance, do dodge light -> heavy -> light -> heavy as quick as possible, if you do it correctly you'll get mid heavy -> uncharged mid axe throw -> wild surge i and ii). the charged throwing skills are largely boring and the weapon is much better played in light armour spamming dodge attacks, advancing storm to approach and punishing with feather cancels, in late game using ame-no-uzume set for dodge attack bonuses and the ultimate skill effect on scroll for more iframes
>>728296370>Are we excited for the Nioh 3 demo anons?Yeah. I can check how the game runs on PC and still have time to preorder. The save file carrying over is also nice, basically get to play the game a week early
>>728306409>the trailer just said ps5 demo?
Is there a way to still access the Khazan demo on PC, it's no longer on steam
>>728324901Or the banana if you prefer fate
>>728326727>save data can be carried overSo itll just be the first mission then?
Actually speaking of that, how is the game structured?I assume its like RotR IE open world with missions in certain locations, mini dungeons as it were
>>728320360I gotchu senpai
>>728296370I can't wait to see how shit it runs
Don't mind me just hijacking the thread to tell everyone how I went full retard:>doing RotR postgame>want the set requirement -1 but refuse to fuck Ryouma>from some googling decide that farming Other Halves for scarves/cane is the way to go to farm for red accs>they're not dropping>figure I have to unlock them from ronin lv10 first>go around gifting trash>why is it so slow>maybe I should max out anti-shogunate>after a few hours realize that the only good way of doing that is just buying shit at their base>spend another hour looking for a green encounter so I can actually get it to go over to lv5>ronin level still only halfway fuuuck>random encounters don't do shit>go around gifting more stuff, finally get to lv10>try farming other halves again>nothing ever drops>after more googling realize it'd be more efficient to just farm generic accs in a lower level ally mission>do that>drop rates all over the place, most accs don't even drop with a dragon/tiger, let alone reqs-1>>>>after just a bit more googling find out that 1.05 made it so you don't even have to fuck anyone to get their accessory...at least I got a bunch of shit to dismantle.
I really hope the devs completely ignore DFO, I want to see more games in that universe too
I'm probably not gonna bother picking up 3 for a while after it drops, at least not until the complete edition with every difficulty and all the new DLC shit they'll inevitably put in is out
>>728329684I refuse to play khazan for 2 reasons1. only 3 weapons and theyre all lame and not claws2. nexon
>>728329910>only 3 weaponsYeah that part did suck, worse yet 1 of them was just straight up not a Slayer weapon let alone Berserker (Spears) but I'll fucking fight you on the lame part>NexonUnderstandable, have a good day
>>728330026Listen man, one of the main reasons I love code vein so much is BIG FUCKING CLAWS and Khazan pretty much has the same aesthetic as those claws painted all over it, hell his fucking hands are caked in bloodAnd what do we get?>guts sword>some random hatchet you found in a bin>a spearLet me rip and tear goddamnit
>>728329516Here's your prediction:-It's going to run like absolute hot shit-Those of us who are used to playing games that run like hot shit will still play it anyway-You're probably going to have to hide for a while to avoid spoilers while you wait for patches to achieve fps acceptable to your standards-By the time it does, the positive discussion grace period will probably be over and you'll have to try to discuss the game while the loud shitposters are running amok
>>728330327I remember playing wo long and nioh 2 on pc launch so whatever I can run RotR fine (even though my pc gets hot because I think I fucked up my thermal paste) so I confident in being able to brite force it regardless
>>728330327Some of us might also be able to tank the shit performance with hardware, and the fact I play in 60fps anyway
>>728329910While it does suck that there's only three, they're fairly fleshed out and fun to use so I still enjoyed it.
>>728330327>You're probably going to have to 秀 for a while to avoid spoilersJust leave /v/ and come back once the complete edition / last DLC comes out and revives the discussion, ez. This board is 99% shitposting most of the time anyway.
Switching between two characters killed any interest in the game for me.
>>728331519You can just make the same character twice, you also dont have to swap, they specifically stated to have designed the game around not having to swap between them, so you can just stick to whichever style you prefer
>>728328856It's open fields that contain various enemy layouts and some "camps" like what RotR had. Then there's also main missions that are like normal Nioh levels. The alpha area was very condensed compared to RotR and it felt structured and not empty. You also had Mezuki as a boss in the open field that you could just walk up to and fight.
>>728296370I am. I just wanna know if I can run it with my dogshit PC. Probably won't though, but I gotta try.
>>728331875So it is basically what RotR did then, some stuff out in the field including some stray bosses like ER did as well, and the PoIs are main missions aka the equivalent on legacy dungeons in ERRotR is a bit weird to compare it to since its missions were located in the nioh equivalent of a building with 2 boxes and a ninja taped to the ceiling, the scale is quite different
>>728331519>>728331667the ninja and samurai are two separate characters? That's weird
>>728317739I didn't really enjoy Wo Long but I only played it at launch.
>>728332314They can be, as far as I can tellIf you ever played SoP, its kinda like swapping classes in that game, you just hit a button to turn into the other guy with a different moveset, but you can just make the same guy twice and treat it like swapping your class
>>728297487Can't because datamining niggers would spoil everything.
>>728332761and they won't spoil anything next month?
The timing is still a bit shitty because of CV2I'm only gonna be playing nioh 3 first just to savor CV2 more
don't you die on me thread
>>728332761I FUCKING HATE DATAMINERS>>728332761
So how does First Berserker Khazan play, how was it? Worth a buy?
>>728296370>More artificial difficulty Why?
Niohbros, are we ready for all the OHNONO steam charts shitposters when it inevitably doesn't sell as much as whatever FOTM astroturfed slop that will be going on at the moment?
>>728333827I am curious how it performs relative to other TN games
>>728333714I thought it was very good overall and worth it if you like action RPGs. It's actually somewhat close to Nioh with a little bit of SoP as well. Not exactly the same but it's far closer to Nioh than it is to something like Dark Souls. It's a fairly challenging game however and you're expected to really learn the bosses well. I'd recommend it to anyone that enjoys any of TN's modern action RPGs, it's for that same audience.
>>728333770By artificial difficulty do you mean the part where the game is only hard for the first few hours before you unlock more shit and muscle memory kicks in?
>>728318794the alternate history is cool, you're just GAY and RETARDED and you SMELL
holy shit, why is it so expensive?
>>728335036Premium game for premium gamers.
>>728334739>the alternate history is coolI just wish they had the balls to make some people evil without just straight up turning them into characters who have nothing going for them but "lol stones"90% of the "bad" characters are Blizzard tier corruption stories9% are the said 0 personality ones1% is /our/ monke
I just wish the obligatory female support character is interesting and hot this timeThe bland face chick in 2 was just so boring and honestly not that good looking
>>728335036They're worth it, unlike say Crapcum that charges you full price for an unfinished game then charges you for trinkets that would've been free, charges you for not even a full character edit etc
STAY WITH ME THREAD
>>728296370I can barely contain my excitement. Pretty happy they're doing a demo for everyone 1 week before release. Doubt it'll be enough time to fix pc performance issues but it's something
>>728333940I'm guessing it will do better than Ronin but worse than Wo Long
>>728335036They probably realized that the audience for these sorts of games is very limited so they're going to overcharge the fanbase that stuck around instead of trying to attract more people
>>728318215
>>728318215Onimusha dawn of dreams feels kinda like proto nioh
>>728296370this, AC8 and DOS3 are the only good things out of this year's TGA.
>>728339961You're better off crossing your fingers and praying they reverse the trend of the launches of SoP, Wo Long, and Rise of the Ronin. Each was worse than the last with Ronin in particular being so horrendous that even if you liked the game it wasn't worth playing.
>>728341349I upgraded my pc specifically for nioh 3. Can't think of anything else I'm particularly excited for
>>728341349I mean wasn't Khazan perfectly fine and their second to last release
>>728341458Team Ninja had nothing to do with that game.
>>728341349>even if you liked the game it wasn't worth playing.Good thing the game sucked ass so people who didn't play it thanks to the performance aren't losing outt. someone who thought he could just trudge through the performance issues and likes every other TN game
>>728342034I thought it was fun. Certainly more so than other open world slop I've been seeing shilled last few years
Did they tease or show the new weapons yet?
>>728335036>look up my region's pricing>$110 fucking dollars for the deluxe edition
>>728315369>for example Grace of Susano only drops on floors that are multiple of 3is there even a place where information like this is catalogued? I remember that the english wiki was pretty poor back when I tried checking it so I certainly wouldn't expect to find advanced tips like this on there
>literally almost a full day of work
Man I cannot find a weapon that clicks, I'm 200 hours in and still feel like I don't have a main
>>728317739Wo Long is fun but I personally didn't care much of the setting, if you like Nioh and Sekiro you'll probably have a good time (they also improved it a lot with patches since the shaky release)SoP feels wierder (by default you have companions that make the NG way easier, but you can choose to play solo) but definitely kino
>>728343279First thing I did was remove companions. TN did the same thing in wo long with just randomly assigning you allies. No idea why, imo it doesn't work and the game feels better solo.
>>728325467doesn't PS5 also have a 120fps patch that's not available on pc? Given the additional work they've put on it they probably decided to change the achievements too for whatever reason, the PS5 is technically the ultimate edition of the game>>728325685there will still be the people that can't run Nioh 3 on their rig, considering that it's quite a bit more demanding
>>728343451PC goes up to 120fps as well.
>>728296370Why play this when Elden Ring exists?
>>728343615Elden ring sucks
>>728343585>>728343451Nioh 1 is the one capped to 60 on PC and 120 on PS5
>>728336864her spirit on the other hand earned a permanent spot in my hut. Ngl I'm going to kinda miss the out of mission menu shenanigans>>728343585oh my bad, maybe I never realized it because I have a 60Hz screen lol
>>728343779Yeh 1 is 60 locked on pc.>>728343789I'm hoping TN might get their shit together for 3's pc release
>>728343439>could have had a game actually designed around customizing/gearing and swapping between 2 characters with Ronin>instead it's just another one that gives you a selection of companions you're better off withoutTN please
>>728343207I liked the mechanic of draining enemy ki so I picked a weapon that specialized in doing that. Pick a weapon that fits your preferred game mechanic.
>>728343439it was especially annoying in wo long because you had to play a bunch with NPCs to get their sets
>>728344189I just pick a short mission and steamroll through it to grind affinity real quick.
Sucks that there's barely any hype for this outside of /v/. Team Ninja might be cooked after this one.
>>728348007Same as every other TN game though. Still enjoying them
>>728348007What does China think of it? These games are mostly played by chinamen, every time I cooped it was a bunch of rectangles for names.
>>728348007You're underestimating how cheap TN games are and how well they sell in the orient.
>>728348007idk aside from the initial push that Nioh got because people were hunting for soulslikes it seems to me like none of the games they've made in recent times had much hype behind them. But Wo Long had the Chinese and the fans of 3 kingdoms stuff, Strangers of Paradise had the Final Fantasy name, and Nioh 3 has the reputation of its previous games, it's not enough to be mainstream but I bet they'll sell enough to keep going
>>728348340That's because TN cater exclusively to me and no one else.
>>728348447Is that so? Then there's a little something I really gotta tell you: you have immaculate taste my man
>>728348646Everything from NG to DOA to Nioh to SoP even Ronin. I'm a TN enjoyer
How do you do that thing where you change the type of counter a spirit is, as in from brute to phantom to feral etc?>>728348447How am I supposed to pronounce this crazy moonrune shit
>>728349656Each guardian spirit has one of 3 counters its gard coded to. If you're early in the game you're probably thinking of how later on you can change between 2 guardian spirits on the fly using r1+l2. So you can simultaneously equip a brute and a feral spirit or whatever combination
>>728349772Nah, I'm sure there was a way to change the type of counter a guardian spirit is using mortal cores, but I can't do that
>>728350026not the guardian spirit, you can change a soul core's affinity by blending it with a mortal soul core so you can match them to your spirit.But you can't change Makami from brute to feral or stuff like that
>>728350026Mortal cores change the type of spirit alignment for individual soul cores so you can align all 3 cores with your individual guardian spirit to take advantage of bonuses from yokai tree
HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT TSUCHIGUMO
>>728332314It's the same character, you just have the option of creating two different appearances if you want to.
>>728351195Don't be overly aggressive and instead focus more on punishing because he can attack very quickly and hit hard. Try to break his back for big Ki damage and stagger, having a fast projectile of some kind when he's on the wall is the best method but you can at times reach it when he leans down or catch him in the air. He's very weak to fire, and goes down pretty quickly in general so make the most of openings.
What am I missing with tonfa? I do piss damage and barely do ki damage
>>728353327You aren't attacking enough, Tonfas should be constantly in the face of the enemy
>>728353327Everything probably because Tonfa can do absurd Ki damage without trying and heavy damage as well. The weapon is fast and mobile enough that you should be able to constantly stay on an enemy and hitting them, using Demon Dance to avoid and all its gapclosers and multihits to maintain pressure.
>>728348007It's never the good games that sells well.
>>728351195yea he was a head scratcher for me too, these bosses with little openings feel awkward to fight the first time around. The one thing that helped me understand him is that you shouldn't get close to him, and if you do, get ready to dodge past him or to his right instead of back. His close ranged combo is fast and lasts long enough to punish a dodge if you are in the wrong position.Here's more info on him: https://files.catbox.moe/s794m7.txt
Nioh might be the only game truly inspired by the Souls weapon system and its variety, and while others merely imitated the superficial gameplay elements (le hecking roll and slow-ass attacks), Nioh actually improved and deepened them, especially in weapon variety and movesets. Now, if only they could get rid of, or at least fundamentally change, the RNG loot system, the game would be flawless (minus the story, of course, but not everything can be Bambishart’s Tale)
>>728343615Elden Ring is endless filler, especially now that Nightreign is pure killer
>>728348326Is this one not $80 equivalent in Chinaland?
>>728317739There's only one game like Wo Long and it's Sekiro, and Sekiro still isn't like Wo Long a whole lot. Makes me sad.
>>728296370It will lose to hades 3
>>728353327Are you even doing combos?Tonfas should melt ki really fast with simple combos
>>728355965Khazan.
>>728348007It has more hype than ninja gaidenThere are many niche streamer who only make nioh content
>>728355470Rng loot is great and the reason ng+ and underworld/depth works so wellStory is also really good if you're interested in Japanese history
>>728353327tonfa gun is literally the DPS move
>>728296370I wish tn made onimusha 5 instead of capcum
Can I still run this game on my toaster
>>728358850I wish TN made ng4 instead of platinum.
>>728358850Might be a good fit
>>728358671Yes and no. Tonfa Gun does add a lot more of a kick to some already high damage skills in Devastation and Crimson Lotus, but they're more like finishing burst damage and punishes due to recovery. There's also Pulverize as the main DPS choice, as well as Urgency and Mountain Breaker which are fast and strong enough to work as both to a degree. The point is just that for a Ki damage focused weapon it's got quite the variety of damage tools on it.
Excited to Moonlit Snow my way to the end.Hopefully this time they don't do the retarded thing of locking the abyss behind fucking NG+5
>>728358987To risky Modern gamers don't play character actionPlatinum's ng4 had flaws but still better than majority games release this year yet it lost to fucking hades2
>>728351195>use Kasha>he meltsweakness to fire is crippling for Yokai
>>728319737>Be careful Hiddy, this guy running ki damage build! I know right, what a fag -ACKKK!
>Moonlit Snow Redux x200>winI'm so good
>>728296370Eighty. Euros. Without DLC.
I love how in this game you can either be a faggy super speed ninja and dodge everything while doing cartwheel but also you can build to just facetank everything trading hits with bosses and actually come out on top 90% of the time.I hope they don't kill this sort of build variety and playstyles allowance.
i hope buildfags gets whats coming to them
>>728317739Strangers of Paradise is goodSimpler and faster paced than Nioh but the level design(in the base game at least) is worse
>>728360229they didnt only kill the whole thing but also made it easier for noobs and on top of that made both accessible at once with forced style separation...
>>728360098Just get a job
>>728361871or dont be a retard in year of our lord 2025 and just pirate the fucking game maybe until price dropsalso, one more thing to note, while yes 80 is a lot for a game, if u are sitting and typing on fucking 4chan of all places on a thread related to a specific game then maybe u dont really have anything else going in your life so maybe just buy the fucking game
>>728362174you're cruel but fair.
>>728359446I don't think anyone actually played hades 2. They just gave it to hades because 1 got it several years back
>>728361318>kill the whole thingHow
>>728362819I think releasing the game during beta (?) development killed all general discussion at release, shills didn't really had anything new to push since the core game was released years ago, if they had hold back it would had a bigger online presence akin to what Silksong had.
I have an old save of nioh 2 on depth 20 something. I cant find a good build for doing deeper because at that level every good build has at least one super necessary item that’s mega rare to drop with the correct bonuses. it takes so long to farm I just end up making a spear build with triple threat + spam elemental ninjutsu and onmyo debuffs and keep poking with triple threat. I love triple threat its so satisfying to play, but I would really like to try out something else.
>>728296575pc fags truly are a cancer upon vidya
>>728362878wdym how?they literally took 2 out of 3 iconic archetypes (samurai, ninja and onymo) and turned them into "forced" stances...so you can't really have your own character anymore u are forced to swap to a different person with a different clothes like its some magicmechanically it seems not so bad on the surface but I will hurt the game in the long run, they really wanted to just do something different for no reason but to ride the ninja gaiden hype traintheir lates game awards trailer didnt even showcase this mechanic which is weird and the trailer was lame anyway
>>728363268You are dumb.
>>728298939Realistically, you just use Piercing Throw on everythingwebm not related
>>728363342I love ninja gaiden but u cant tell me they are not trying to ride ryus dick with this changeI would much rather prefer to create my own ninja like in prior games and not be forced into a gamestyle
>>728360098world's going down the shitter in 2026 anyways, just spend your fiat currency on games if you're not gonna invest in metals
>>728363268Retard take.
Anyone remember the conquered vs conquerer stuff from the First Nioh demo?
>>728355470>Nioh might be the only game truly inspired by the Souls weapon system and its variety>No 2 handling>No dual wielding>No seamless magic and melee wielding>Can't free aim attacks vertically>Attacks and player aline turn like a semi-truck unless they lock on
>>728360098>Check>It's realHope greed bites KT on the ass and this flops harder than Wo Long Johnson
>>728363268>iconic archetypesOnmyo was only ever a means to buff. Spamming fireballs as a build is a retarded novelty. Onmyo is still a buff mechanic in this capacity>ninjaHaving not only a distinct style for gameplay but also rechargeable consumables means ninja is actually viable as a build more so than just quick change scroll and elemental build up spam
>>728296370Tn please make another monster hunter-like
>>728364603too many third world ESL zoomers on /v/ to remember that
>>728364808They didn't make that one
>>728296370I'll never finish Nioh 2Every time I try and start playing again I quickly lose interest and give up againEvery single mission is the same fucking shit, and swapping weapons around just means your movelist will permanently have half the slots empty because you didn't committ to a gay skill tree grind
>>728364630Yeah, in retrospect my opinion was dogshit, but does the part about Nioh being the most faithful Soulslike regarding weapon variety stand? I feel like every other Soulslop barely has single-digit weapons at best.
>the implications that Nioh was originally going to be a musouhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j14e9zTnVbk
I enjoyed Ronin a lot and I'm done pretending that it was a bad game.
>>728296370That was William and Hiddy shown at the end of the trailer right? Will we have any Ninja Gaiden cross overs do you think?Seeing as you have time travel now it would be great to fight Ryu, not his ancestors.
Janomecho wife
>>728296370do we know if the character creator is good?
>>728366852Proper titty slider is back
>>728296575KWAB
NIOH IS AN EASY GAME IF YOU ACTUALLY LEARN HOW TO PLAAAAAAY
>>728367748wanna hear a real kwab story?my retarded cousin couldnt beat the william fight (i cant help him its literally the only main mission in the game you have to do alone), save scummed someone elses save, the game didnt allow him and now his original save also got deleted and now he's left with nothing
>>728296370I don't play demo's. I will buy Nioh 3 and I know I will enjoy it but the ninja/samurai stuff still sounds retarded.
>>728368150Lmao
>>728296370>Are we excited for the Nioh 3 demo anons?No, I couldn't even finish Nioh 2 because of the stupid grind and repetitive encounters. Imagine how fucking tiresome Nioh 2 but open world will be
>>728296370Yes. Easily goty 2026
I wonder if quickchange and barrier talisman will be back
>>728366278The end of the trailer was the cutscene from Nioh 2 to showcase how the early purchase bonus now also includes their armour sets. That said, I would bet on William and some kind of Hayabusa showing up whether on release or in DLC. After typing that I remember a screenshot mentioning the same guy that was in Rise of the Ronin that was a Hayabusa in all but name, but they could always have both. Potentially even a Raven ninja, maybe connecting them to the Saika.
>>728369136The demo is a week before release and you can carry your save over. It's more like an early soft launch. The Samurai/Ninja split works much better in action if you give it a shot.>>728370212I remember the former being in the Alpha for sure but now as an Onmyo spell. Almost certain the latter is too and it will still be self-destructive if the bonuses on perfect purification remain.
>>728369693There's no grind unless you want to grind for something and you probably just don't enjoy action combat very much if you found it repetitive.
>>728369136it really does but really it's like the instant job switch in SoP.
>>728364603I have no memory of this. Elaborate.
>>728366852god tier character creator ruined by too many shitty armor sets.
>>728364603Of course, I was in those alpha threads when that anon started posting it.>>728374558It's a pasta that some anon made during the first Nioh alpha. I don't have it on me but I'm sure somebody else does. It's still posted every so often but not as much anymore.
>>728372872I enjoy action combat with stimulating and fun enemies, not the same shitty yokais and bandit mooks all over the map up to a boss with few attacks that summons 2 shitty yokais in phase 2
>>728358987>>728359446How was NG4 anyways
People keep talking about either Ryu or Chadkumo making it in as a secret boss fight But what about both at the same time, in the same fight
>>7283767078/10
>>728376282There's plenty of enemy variety and part of the fun of combat is not just the enemies, but learning and growing your moveset as well. You continually gain new tools to beat enemies with and gradually get better at taking them down as you get more familiar with them. It's really a combat focused game, you'll have more fun with it if learning and getting good at combat mechanics excites you.
>>728377336>There's plenty of enemy variety I have been fighting nothing but snake heads, bandits, gremlins, flying yokais and brute yokais>and part of the fun of combat is not just the enemies, but learning and growing your moveset as well. Except for 40 hours you get nothing but basic attacks and minor skills, with loots that all blends together
>>728317739I dont like Final Fantasy but SoP I found incredible
>>728376282base campaign was definitely lacking in enemy variety, but that's not what what grinding is
>>728377609NTA but the magic of Nioh as a series is IMO twofoldIt excels in exactly two things>PATH OF EXILE BUILD AUTISM>ACTION COMBAT INPUT WANKERYboth of those are avenues to take a journey on, potentially both but not exclusively.My first run of Nioh 2 was just Hammer Lifesteal facetanking, but then I just made a cannon build that turned the game into a janky weird 3D shooter with tank controls where I oneshot most enemies if I position my stupid ass well enough, transforming most boss encounters into something entirely newThose are the two strongest points of the game, although honestly the level design in Nioh 2 is pretty decent and a lot of newer FROM levels are weaker than that and this is coming from a massive Fromdrone
>>728377609I'm assuming you're at the snake boss which is still somewhat early if I remember right but there's plenty of types across the whole game. Your move-set expands over the course of the game but you should unlock fluxing early on. Try and vary your combos up more by fluxing to another stance after a string and then using a skill. Well, maybe the game just isn't for you which is fine, but at the very least it's not grindy unless you intentionally want to grind for something.
>>728374558The Alpha and Beta demo (both of which were more difficult, badly designed and unbalanced than their equivalent in the actual game) had a reward titled The Mark of the Conqueror for beating them, and a greentext pasta was created about it. The idea is that the Conquerors lead the way by originally beating the content and discovering things about the game, while the Conquered just followed their findings to be carried through essentially. IE the conqueror just beats Hino Enma on their own through either skill or perseverance, the conquered need to be taught by the conquerors to actually block only specific attacks, use ranged options, etc or else they'll call her bullshit or something.>>728369136I mainly just hate the visual aspects of it and that it locks a large part of the combat behind it, immediately changing outfits looks so horrible visually and it feels a bit restrictive. Maybe it won't actually play out like that on release though, and either way I'll just ignore the parts I don't like until endgame like usual.
>>728378048It's grinding because the whole game after the first region is shitty filler with no new enemies>>728379107No I defeated KashaMy moveset isn't expanding besides some alternative unnecessary finishers, some gay charged attacks and a parry that doesn't even work with skeletons apparently
>>728376707Pretty good Easily the 2nd or 3rd best platinum game but weakest mainline ng and should've released as a spin off ng
>>728378048Grinding is another one of those terms that have been flanderized by modern gamers, anon. Any time someone says it nowadays it just means "I don't want to do this part of the ga" instead of referring to grinding resources or EXP like the actual definition, and they also use it interchangeably with farming items or equipment too.
>>728321936>>728320360I am back. Today, Lady finished base game + DLC on dream of the strong.
>>728343207I was a Switchglaivecuck until I discovered Dragon Sword/Falcon Talons ninjutsu Hayabusa build. The game almost doubled in speed for me.
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>>728379168>I'll just ignore the parts I don't like until endgame like usualBased, same.
>>728373104Such an underrated mechanic. Especially how it helps with the flow of combat. I hope there's a similar effect in nioh 3 with style switch animation canceling
>>728380035A skill point is not grinding, anon.
>>728296370A katana and Tengu bussy is all I am going to need in that game.
>>728296370>body type 3No.
>>728379450That's not grinding. And your move-set is expanding, you're just not liking the new moves you're getting and not interested in experimenting with them I guess. I don't remember exactly how long it should take you to get all the active skills for a weapon but for the first run I thought it was spread out fairly well. The point is that gaining new ways to take down enemies and simply getting better and better at the core mechanics is what keeps things fresh. The first time you fight an enemy, you generally don't know they're behaviors very well but by the end of the game, you learn to take them down much more efficiently and stylishly. And fighting the same enemies across the game is something that's part of any action game, you've also got different encounter setups and level structures to keep things interesting. I know I won't convince you to like the game but that's just how it is for me at least. Any time I unlock a new active skill, I get excited to go test it out and see if I like it or can work it into my play-style.
when is the demo
I am looking forward to this game only because Rise of the Ronin was like 80% of the way to being my perfect video game, and I think rolling Nioh concepts can only improve that formula.I do understand why people are not happy with the game moving away from the structure of the first two.
>>728380542jan 29th
>>728380581is it going to be the same demo that was on ps5?
>>728380775I believe so.
>>728380442huh? there's a 3?
>>728380905welp, i guess it'll be nice playing it again on my supercomputer and not the shit ps5
>>728380971There isn't, anon is just retarded
Nioh kicked my ass. Any tips? What's an OP build? I just want the game to kneel already
>>728381209get a katanaspam flowing shadow
>>728381209I just used an Axe and went >chop chop chop
Apparently if I put items and armors in the storehouse in Nioh 2, I can make a new character and withdraw them? is this true?
>>728381209Just play Axe and ignore all your troubles. If you simply press triangle, all the problems in your life are washed away as if by the summer rain.
>>728380483>And your move-set is expanding, you're just not liking the new movesOh yeah right, now I can edgewalk like a retard for a gay heavy attack that is 3 times less dps efficient than mid stance heavy combos while leaving you open. This is totally radically changing the game rn. I can do a marginally faster attack from block now wow.>And fighting the same enemies across the game is something that's part of any action gameAnd you ever wonder why no DMC or NG game ever went past the 15 hours runtime before letting the player see the credits and face every enemy and boss?>The point is that gaining new ways to take down enemies and simply getting better and better at the core mechanics is what keeps things fresh.Except I'm not doing that, that's the issue
>>728380775It's gonna new I'm pretty sure, or at least a newer build of the game
>>728381485No. There's no shared stash or item transfer between characters
>>728381285>>728381408>>728381501I used the sickle last time, guess it's axe time. Mite try kataner too.
>>728381209personally i find tonfa the easiest but also fun
>>728381741oh yeah, switch axe with the slow talisman and lightning element made the game easy mode
>>728296370The price tag will sink Team Ninja for good
>>728381791>>728381741>switchaxeI meant switchglaive
>>728381886Fuck it, we're adding charged blade to the game
>>728296575It doesnt matter if you work 100 hours a week. Youre destined to get where youre supposed to get and be fine with it. Cheating isnt a team saver youre wasting the entire experience.
>>728381992Not that anon but I can see his argument, I can 3-shot Ren Hayabusa with my purity switchglaive and doing that for however many hours that text might take to drop sounds tedious.
>>728381605You could always pick up another weapon if you're not liking the one you're using or are tired of it. Out of curiosity though, are you ki pulsing and fluxing or are you just doing nothing but basic attack strings?
>>728382105you're being too nice about itshitters never ki pulse or use flux and that's why they think the game is too hard
>>728296447>bootlegRemnant and Nioh are the franchises that took what From did and brought it to the next level. Fromslop is unplayable after these franchises.
>>728382237>RemnantI agree on Nioh, and I would add Lies of P to that list. But I tried getting into Remnant 2 several times and not only is it hideous but it feels like shit to me, I wish I liked it because I paid full price and went past the refund window.
>>728382406It does the quest system and multiplayer better. No bullshit transient nonsense that was fun in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls but got old after but fully shared progress and multiplayer that even changes how quests work by doing stuff like changing rewards based on how you interact with your partner.
>>728381209>>728381741It doesn't actually matter what weapon you use, you should just choose the one that feels the most fun moveset wise. The most important part is just not blaming the game when things go wrong, honestly.>Any tips? Get into the habit of ki pulsing/flux after a combo, that essentially gives you 10 times the stamina to work with. Don't be afraid to block attacks even though it feels weak at first, blocking is how you escape the enemy combos to survive instead of being stunlocked to death. Use either Onmyo or Ninjutsu, or both, no matter your build.Also important to note that builds actually do have a massive impact and changing your equipment can make a boss go from seeming impossible to a walk in the park. You can actually tank damage if you work towards that goal for example (yes even to endgame), and the final boss becomes manageable for a low skill player if they build for "reduce elemental damage taken on guard" passives. They're important in all difficulties, but that importance grows with each difficulty level too.>What's an OP build?I wouldn't recommend doing that, you'll just bore yourself and it doesn't really come together until you first beat the game anyway.
>>728382617>No bullshit transient nonsenseokay that's based because i fucking hate how FROM does it's quests. Elden Ring and Lies of P figured out a good workaround with markers at warp locations but it's not perfect.
>>728382406The artstyle for remnant is beautiful. I don't know what specifically feels like shit to you about the gameplay so that might never get better, but for me it's the bosses and the way builds are done that sells 2 for me. Honestly the best I've seen that aspect done, even including Nioh.I wouldn't even put Remnant in the same category as Souls or Nioh though.
>>728382105>You could always pick up another weapon and reset the skill tree grind Lol i used every weapon in game except Axe and Fists. The game is terribly cheap about giving any meaningful consistent progression. All it does is hassle players woth constant kodama blessing and loot cap garbage management though>Out of curiosity though, are you ki pulsing and fluxingYeah
>>728383347>except Axe and FistsTry to get the falcon's talons from the DLC. I was a fists hater until I got those. It feels like I'm playing NG3RE again.
Do your guardian spirits get more attunement slots with each NG cycle or am I limited to Onryoki and Kasha only?
>>728382406Remnant should only be played in coop. Even my friend who hates soulslikes played the shit out of it.
>>728383347It's not a grind, you just gain points naturally by using the weapon. I think we're done here, you just don't like Nioh's combat I guess.
>>728383347>>728384114If anon hates the grind he could always max his playthrough's familiarity cap on Daidara-Bochi and then in NG+ do the same thing, et. all.
>>728384114Yes it's a grindThe game forces you to go through the same levels and kill the same enemies to unlock moves but then wastes my fucking time with pointless skill tree nodes I have to go through to access new moves, with a lot of those being pointless too
Just accidentally hit destroy on my best picture scroll. NGMI.
>>728383958It's weird that co-op isn't being marketed as the proper way to play. Not only do you need it for completion, there is a lot of chatter and even some tiny bits of lore when you play in co-op.
>remember people joking that Saito Toshimitsu is playing like a Nioh 3 character years back>Nioh 3 character actually plays like this, with all sorts of insane elemental properties on specialsAlso here's the reason why there's no dedicated onmyo mode, both ninja and samurai modes are choke full of onmyo already.
>>728384369It doesn't force you to go through the same levels at all, the side-missions where you do a main mission in reverse are optional. It's only a "grind" if you deliberately need to gain all the weapon's skills immediately before you can start playing "for real". Just pick a new weapon, then continue to through main missions normally and you'll gain it's skills along the way. That should make things fresh again because now you get the fun of learning a new weapon, and gradually expanding your move-set again. It's like purchasing new moves in an action game like NG or DMC.
I unironically basedfaced and teared up when I saw a Tokichiro summon sign for the very last unlockable sub mission.
>>728376707My favorite NG.
>>728384753but what was the actual good reason behind separating the weapons and other abilities into two styles?like aren't the weapons already ninja like? samurai can already jump so just keep these wacky moves for ninja themed weapons...what else does a ninja have that cant be just integrated into the game? new system for ninjutsu should be implemented across all jutsu type abilities, why should I be forced to claw grip or remove my thumb of thumbstick to cast a fireball while these ninja trannies can just use their controller properly?and about the mist? just add it into that new attunement skill slots maybe, they can literally do so much with that new systemnot a single good reason for this new gay style mechanic
I kind of wish they just ported the movesets of the weapons from NG to Nioh and added nunchakus tooI want to flying swallow niggas trying to shit out laser beams at me
>>728384753That's not onmyo, I will not buy into the ninjafag propaganda that feathers are just spells.
>>728385771>I will not buy into the ninjafag propaganda that feathers are just spells.Feathers are absolutely just spells
Anons, is there any point replaying a picture scroll mission once i know its effects?
>>728385915and they shouldnt be, just let mages use spells...stupid ass naruto ninja loreninjas should only about traps, bombs and shurikens
>>728385915Sure. If you consider throwing a rock to be earth magic, or a water gun to be casting spells. You might as well call the Odachi an Axe at that point.
>>728386343>stupid ass naruto ninja loreNinja Gaiden ninpo are legit really strong and satisfying spells that don't take away from the experience
give me all three styles for use on the fly or fuck off with this forced gay shit
>>728386602It really should be the other way around imo. Ninja stuff should be practical and status effects, while Onmyo should be the direct offensive options. Instead ninja stuff is the dps elemental spells, status effects and utility buffs all at once. While onmyo is mainly just utility buffs and worse at everything else.My ideal would be the ninja stuff is relegated to gameplay changing effects like quick change, buffs/debuffs, status effects, etc that you build around and many melee combat options like the ninja mode they added in 3. Then have Onmyo be the spellcaster approach with a lot more active casting and damage spells similar to Wo Long where you don't even have to use a weapon for anything but blocking or parrying to fight with it.
>>728387607yep, something similar couldve been donethey reintroduced wind status effect in nioh 3 and no earth effect so far (we had a sneak peek of it in demo)so thats 4 elements, 4 face buttons, 4 onmyo style stanceswhat a wasted opportunity
I pretty much never touched onmyo stuff in both Nioh 1 and 2 and always favored ninja weapons so I'm fine with ninja being it's own mode. I didn't really use much ninjutsu either but I loved how 2 gave you Ryu's ninpo, I definitely used those. I mean really, who doesn't love ninjas?
>>728296370When the demo come out?
>>728389328jan 29, a week before official release
>>728389463OMG I Want it now!!!!!!I WANT NIOH 3 RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!RELEASE IT RIGHT NOW TEAM NINJA BECAUSE I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IM TIRED OF DARK SOULS AND ELDER RINGER I WANT NIOH 3 RIGHT NOWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>728389029>boot up nioh 2>"ok this time I would go faceroll heavy attack axe build with buffs and try something new">end up going faceroll heavy attack axe build with buffs anyway
>>728389029Ninjas are pretty lame. Most of the cool stuff related to them in media has very little to actually do with ninjas, like the Izuna Drop for example.
>>728376707It was good, but people are acting as if NG never had any design issues ever and 4 brought them into the series, thus cementing the theory that NGfags literally do not play their games
>>728390935I could care less about realism autism, fictional ninja are cool.
>>728365268>too much gameplayPerhaps Cutscenes 33 Let's Plagiarize FFTA is more up your alley
>>728389029I like sneaky ninjas, not the super soldiers who excel at basically everything.So I say, but even in Tenchu/Shinobido they canonically kick ass in open boss fights despite the awkward controls, so it's not like they're too different conceptually. But I still prefer stealth gameplay.
>>728391339It has nothing to do with realism autism. The cool parts of fictional ninjas (and especially Nioh ones) are just generally universal things, like being a supernaturally gifted katana wielder or doing cool grapple attacks. A samurai doing an Izuna drop is cooler.
I want to become better at odachi, but it's too tempting to spam Moonlit Snow
I just played nioh (1) for the first time for like 6 hours straight while a friend was backseating me and the game's goodthe mechanics are pretty complex but having someone explain them for you made it more bearablehonestly if this game was like furi and only focused on bosses I'd have more fun because that ball throwing oni was a fun fight but everything before him was just annoying
Well that's just retarded, no (You) for you
you just gave me attention anyway thank you for that
Everyone has the gayest characters in Nioh 2 lmao. I just play as Ryu Homobussy.
>>728343090https://nioh2.wiki.fextralife.com/The+UnderworldTake a look at the table at the end. Also you can search for the Nioh 2 build bible for specific info about making a build.
>>728392229little anime ahh nigga ahhh bich ahhh
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with NG fanboys? It's like the exclusivity of NG back in the day warped their minds, so they become obsessed with Ryu who is barely a character, avatarfag as him, post the most ignorant obnoxious shit while attaching images of him, seethe shit and cry when they can't play as himIt should be genuinely studied, it's like they imprinted onto Ryu
>>728392637fuck ryu honestly, cant believe we were robbed of genshins daughter as a protag spider clan ninja game (it was a concept but some asshole scrapped it and decided to go with yacumo)
>>728392493Don't post fextralife, anon. They're a garbage view farming site that just takes information from other sources most of the time.
>79,99Sorry, no game is worth that much.Maybe if the game is really good I buy a stolen key
I'm curious to see what new stuff glaive and staff got since those are the only two we haven't seen yet.
>>728393198Yeah I didn't want to post it but I didn't know where else to find info about it as I noticed the build bible doesn't actually have that specific info.
>>728366852i hate that the booty slider from wild hearts didn't come back
>>728393496well glaive is still samurai weapon so prob not much but staff is ninja so I would guess they will lean more into nunchaku like moves like a few of those from past game
>>728393514I figured, I'm only spreading the gospel just in case. That website ruins things for so many niche games by flooding search results with paid promotions and pushing down actually decent information in the results, to say nothing of how scummy and useless their site actually is even for heavily documented popular titles. It should be treated like directly linking IGN or something, I think. Even screenshotting the specific section is better than giving them clicks.
>>728393697Just curious to see what glaive moves got elemental variants since I like the cool visual effects. Other than that it'll likely have a new "launcher" move and airborne move like what all the other samurai weapons got.
>>728392002Everything you like in Nioh 1, Nioh 2 will expand upon and make even better. Enjoy anon, it's a good series.
>>728394306thanks mannow I wonder if nioh 2 often goes on sale because -90% on nioh 1 was a good fucking deal already but I might buy it full price if I end up really loving nioh 1
>>728394306and nioh 3 will fucking ruin it, end of the series
Tonfa guy here, I'm still having a hard time with these thingsI feel like I'm never in control, especially with demon dance moving me around the shop
>>728385478but he raped someone's wife while he was away
>>728382070it is tedious. i dont know wtf that guy was doing with his trainer but theres just a box you check that "makes bosses drop all loot". im not farming a boss for hours in a single player game just to get 1 move
>>728396078>trainerCheat
>having trouble with boss>clay bell of reckoning>boss gets rapedIt's that shrimple
>>728386226Aside from wanting to fight the enemies within for their specific drops or for fun, you can change one of the effects on the scroll to a different random one each time you beat it.>>728394982Mash less, and simply just take your time using them to get used to the flow of their actions, focus entirely on how the basic attacks feel, when they start and when they end. If you're not used to a faster more mobile weapon then it's just a matter of time like anything else, but the gist of stances transfers between all weapons. Demon Dance can be cancelled with Flux but also does not move very much at all, maybe you're doing Demon Dash in which case stop holding forward when you attack, this is normally good practice anyway because it stops you going off ledges.
>>728394982I usually use demon dance's followup after a successful demon dance. You can do other gap closers but they don't naturally chain together, so you have to wait slightly to use them. Dashing light attack in mid stance is great. Strong attack in high stance is cool. Mountain Breaker is there too.
>>728394601Nioh 2 is currently 60% off on UK steam, 19.99, so maybe the case for Burgerland too. If not, CDKeys/Loaded sells it cheap often.
>>728396270got 2K hours in nioh 2, I can do what ever I want at this point I did everything fair and square up until now
>>728395618I already love Tokichiro you dont have to sell him to me.
>>728391583>Too muchIt's the same, spread thin
>>728396594Holy shit thanks for the tip about not holding forward, I didn't even realise I was doing it
>>728396270>>728396947Based. Even FightingCowboy who built his entire audience on Nioh has said he uses trainers when he makes new characters because he's already sunk an insane amount of hours into doing it all legit before.
>>728396961>food analogy
>>728396594>ou can change one of the effects on the scroll to a different random one each time you beat it.oh hell yeah i was in love with this one scroll of mine but it's 3rd effect sucks, knowing i can reroll is kino
>>728396078You're just post-hoc justifying the fact that you want to cheat because you think you deserve things immediately. The drop rate isn't even that bad normally, but you can also craft sets that gives you like +80% drop rate for them and this is also in the context of a game where you want to repeatedly farm bosses too.>I'm not grinding gold or resources in a singleplayer game, I'll just cheat it all in>I'm not farming equipment in a singleplayer game, I'll just use the table to spawn specific sets and rolls>I'm not doing all the side missions to unlock the mission I want to do, I'll just cheat the unlock requirementsIts all just laziness and entitlement.
>>728396959but he coveted his lord's wife even when she was wedded and bedded by another man, and then took her and the 2nd husband's underage daughter as a concubine AKA SEX SLAVE
>>728394982Tonfa is one of my fav weapons and mastered it and I legit never bother with demon dance, u literally dont need it to be effective
>>728397182Do I have to repeat myself.
>>728394982Just do heavy heavy light on the heavy stance and nuke every single ki bar breh
>>728397025even with trainer drop rate the fucking skills dont drop instantly, u still have to fucking farm it just a lot lessits crazy that not a single soul on nexus made a simple mod where all arts of combat just have 100% drop rate, would make fresh playthroughs a lot more enjoyable
>psh it's fine to cheat in single player games i'll just call it a trainer >UH DID YOU HECKIN CREDIT FEED AN ARCADE GAME YOU DIDN'T BEAT IT
I am okay with trainers as long as you don't use scampusses and all that other dumb shit
>>728358032Nioh 3 hype made me finally pick it back up to finish it
>>728397189Something about this post doesn't add up, but regardless while you can of course do anything and still find a way to be effective, Demon Dance and especially Kannagi are a very potent and fun part of Tonfa both for the on-demand dodge cancels and access to two extremely strong skills.
since we talking about the traineranyone tried a "turbo mode" playthrough? u can adjust the game speed with it, I remember messing with it for a bit was fun as fuck
>>728396873I'm a frog not a burgerbut I didnt know sales were region dependentthats pretty stupid why isnt it universal
>>728397547it's annoying to use, u can still abuse pulverize without
>>728398085my bad, been a bit since I played tonfas, I meant demon dash thats all u need
>>728397521I love greatsword kino
>>728397412im gonna use trainers against Nightmare Bringer to get all his drops right now and you cant stop me.
>>728398602as long as u put loot filter on NONE in the settings u didnt cheat in my book
Wo Long did skill drops better. Each droppable spell has multiple bosses you can get it from and rates increase on higher NG cyclesWhich reminds me, we're a year off Nioh 3 being complete
>doing underworld>only on 23>nonstop buffed wheelmonks>buffed onyudo>buffed konaka-jiji>he's around a buffed rokurokubi>next to a tesso and underworld soldier shooting at meI can't do it bros, I'm tired boss
>>728399224>not using the rat demon fart power to super debuff themngmi
>>728399224>he isnt using the effect that steals their buffs when locking onngmi
what is wrong with someone for them to defend grinding?
>>728397521>CDkeys are still 30 bucks and the game has denuvoDamn...I'm sad, maybe it'll be cheaper in the christmas sale....
>>728296370>Are we excited for the Nioh 3Kinda, kinda not. Wish they would bring back William Adams. Blue-eyed samurai is such a dope aesthetic.
>>728399569>playing the game is grindingNot everyone is retarded like you, anon.
Skill drops in both Nioh 2 and Wo Long were cancer and something that I won't defend despite liking both games. Wo Long absolutely did not do skill drops "better", the drop rates were absolutely horrible on anything but the highest difficulty and it took me absurd amounts of kills to get spells. I play on console but I'm not against you PC guys cheating to get the skill drops because tying parts of your move-set like that to RNG is terrible. RNG has it's place in games and I'm even a Monster Hunter fan but it rubs me the wrong way when an action game makes an actual usable skill a 1% RNG drop. If Nioh 3 has skill drops, I really hope they just make them guaranteed drops the first time you beat the boss, or guaranteed drops for fulfilling specific fixed conditions that are made known to the player, like beating it fast enough or without taking damage.
>>728399834grinding is grinding
>>728399569theyre unemployed and can do multiple playthroughs grinding whereas based wagies like us gave our full time to our first playthrough and are now having fun, something foreign to them.
>>728399567But I have a Mujina soul core equipped and he isn't doing shit for me
>>728336437Kek, child
>>728399895And what is grinding to you then?
>>728296370this one's going to be shit.
>>728400109intentionally repeatedly doing something for an extrinsic reward
>>728399840Nioh 3 is handling skill drops in 3 different ways, the first being guaranteed from certain duels and the second being Transformed Arts which are a mix of defeating certain enemies on the map and shooting down Chijiko, floating targets. The third is that some weapons can come with skills that are automatically set when using them, and maxing out the Familiarity on the weapon will learn the skill for use with others. That has some potential for RNG but significantly less since the weapons drop fairly often even without any effects in the Alpha, and this isn't counting the possibility of there being specific rewards offering those weapons.
>>728400441So yeah, exactly what I said. You chose to grind, now you're complaining that you made that choice.
>>728400441I bet you think it's cheating if someone wants to make a sorcery pvp build in Elden Ring after doing 100% completion in their first playthrough, so they download a mule save so they don't run around on Torrent for 3 hours picking up static drops.
>>728400681Yeah, I played the alpha and now I remember those crucible weapons or whatever. As long as they drop somewhat frequently then it should be okay. All the skills need to be listed in the skill tree with clear unlock conditions and I think that's what they're doing.
>>728400860I don't grind, I never said I grind. In fact I implied it was a bad thing, why would you think that I partake in something I find bad?But it's a shame because certain things are locked behind grinding, there were a few skills I thought looked cool and wanted to use but it would have demanded investing a lot of time repeating the same thing over and over which held no appeal to me and felt like a rather pointless requirement.
>>728401049Why would I think it's cheating to do something that avoids grinding if I'm against grinding myself?
>>728401385Sorry /v/ro I meant it for the guy sperging that circumventing a grind = not playing the game.
how about I circumvent my cock around Flying Bolt
>>728401250You could also not be a retard and build a set specifically to increase the drop rate instead of slamming your head against the wall, or even just do the boss a handful of times which you're likely to be doing anyway in this game balanced around farming enemies because it's not even that bad of a drop rate after the patch.
>>728402198>build a set specifically to increase the drop ratehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWnkLlD8wWE
>>728402198LMAO gtfo retard no one will be doing that shit, if u are on pc u are a dumbfuck if u decide to not use a trainer drop rate and 1 hit insta kill when u farm stuff like this
>>728402710God forbid somebody brings up ingame ways to circumvent the grinding of items (that aren't even that hard to get) instead of cheating. What's next, someone suggesting you actually play the game to farm equipment and build sets instead of just spawning fully upgraded gear? Why would anybody do that when you can just download an endgame 100% completion save and pretend you played the game?
>>728403672I dont use trainer to farm skills or loot, already done it before numerous timesused a trainer to make a perfect DOTN fresh start save with 0 gear and everything unlocked now I just play it until I get burnt out again
And people say we can't have long lasting Nioh threads anymore.
>>728400095>"Kek, child"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwd26UMcQA
>>728404469Okay, good for you. You're allowed to cheat if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that it is cheating and in my opinion that you are lame for cheating.
>>728403672but if I'm circumventing the grind then 1) obviously it's not something I want to be doing2) why not just completely remove it instead of reducing itAlso I find the >pretend you played the gameidea interesting. Presumably from your point of view just choosing not to grind and playing the rest of the game isn't a problem, but doing the same thing while also cheating in the items you would've gotten through grinding means you're not playing the game
>that new low stance 1kat judgment cut moveI might have to use more 1kat this time around.
>>728403672Why the fuck do you faggots care so much if he "cheats"? Is it autism? Everyone knows you can "circumvent the grinding" by stacking luck bonuses, although you still have to grind a bit so it doesn't "circumvent" anything. He just wants to skip to the fun part where he runs around with whatever skills or equipment he was after.
>>728335036it's coming out that soon? good God i'm erect
>>728406206>obviously it's not something I want to be doingThe reply chain is about the claim that any level of grind is bad and that defending the concept is ridiculous. If you simply don't want to do it, who cares what you personally do?>why not just completely remove it instead of reducing it>I find "the pretend you played the game" idea interestingIt isn't interesting at all. If you cheat in a videogame you are no longer playing the same game as other people, and if you want to get more literal cheating specifically to avoid playing the game to obtain things obviously means you're not playing the game for that portion. Games are balanced in a myriad of ways (including vague concepts like how many enemies you'll fight on average before getting something or to somewhere), so if you use outside sources to cheat stuff in you're not playing a game that's balanced in the same way at all. The same is true for all titles, if you cheat in 99 of all monster materials + 9999999 Zenni in Monster Hunter or use Defender Gear because you don't want to farm equipment or plates then you're just not playing the same game as those who went through the ranks normally. If you are fine with playing like that then have fun, but it's still true and people still have the right to say that what you're doing is stupid.>>728406609Try using reading comprehension and maybe you'll understand.
I really want to play nioh right now but I dont want to burn myself out of it when nioh 3 is this close to releasing
>>728398353I have fully invested into it and I haven't even touched the other weapons after the demo>>728399604I bet they won't renew denuvo after a year from release, too bad that by then Nioh 3 will have come out
>>728408119I'm pretty much in the same situation. I booted 2 up to dick around in the dojo a bit and it's tempting to actually go and do missions but I'm going to restrain myself because it's not good to burn myself out on it right before 3 releases.
>>728408119same, it's better to play something else in the meantime, maybe a soulslike or some character action game that you've yet to play so that it'll scratch an itch but without being too similar to Nioh
>>728407956>so if you use outside sources to cheat stuff in you're not playing a game that's balanced in the same way at allbut the implication there is that things are made rare for the sake of balance and not playtimeit's more often that drop rates change how much time you play a game for, not how the game is played
>>728409041Got nothing to scratch the itch really, already 100%'d lies of P, I really dont feel like playing ER either
>>728408185>I bet they won't renew denuvo after a year from releaseHow long left till they reach the 1 year mark then?
RotR romance system but for qt yokai
