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You guys excited to speak with Wuk Lamat again in 7.4
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How many categories did Dawntrail win at the Game Awards yesterday?
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>Wuk wont be in 7.1, she was poorly received in 7.0
>Wuk wont be in 7.2, she was poorly received in 7.0 and 7.1
>Wuk won't be in 7.3, she was poorly received in 7.0 and 7.1 and 7.2
>Wuk won't be in 7.4, she was poorly received in 7.0 and 7.1 and 7.2 and 7.4
(YOU ARE HERE)
>Wuk won't be in 7.5, she was poorly received in 7.1 and 7.2 and 7.3 and 7.4
>Wuk won't be in 8.0
>Wuk won't join the scions
>Wuk won't be integral to the final arc in 10.0
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>>728297620
ive never played this game but she would be hot if she had huge tits
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>>728297620
I have anti-anti-anti Wuk Lamat fatigue
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>>728297620
Me
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>>728297620
>>728298398
Legit what fucking purpose does she have in 7.4?
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>>728298443
It's a male VA, you can't polish this turd. It literally sounds like a random theater kid on Tumblr going "Le tacos XD". Utterly unsalvagable.
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>>728297620
Guys I'm pretty confused. I was explicitly told that the developers did not care about Wuk Lamat and she was never supposed to be important. I was told that she was always intended to be dropped instantly after 7.3 just like Aymeric. However, she is in the patch trailer, shown in the patch notes with new MSQ screenshots, and they even used her to represent XIV at the game awards. How can this be?
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>>728299309
Imagine if they really do end up having her join the Scions because they're too stubborn to accept that she bombed. The game really would be doomed then.
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>>728298887
>compliments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Tol_3Cn_s
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>>728298963
A TRANSFOLX of COLOR is talking. You must LISTEN and LEAEN.
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>>728299479
Dear god please let this happen it would be so fucking funny
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>>728299479
They would be volunteering their own maintenance mode
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Wuk Lamat is the key to all of this
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>>728300014
Wouldn't be the first time a developer was too stubborn to back down from a bad decision.
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>>728299479
Imagine if they not only make Wuk a Scion by 8.0, but actually kill off real-Sphene.
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>>728298963
The last possible cope is that the start of 7.4 will have her returning to Tulli to lock herself in the palace, after which the rest of the post-dawntrail MSQ will play out without her.
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>>728298398
TWD
Total Wuk Death
Lalas won.
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>>728299309
Yoshi-P is a furry.
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>>728300429
>TWD
>Total Wuk Death
>Lalas won.
Are you actually capable of engaging in conversation or do you just come here to get (you)s in the most low effort ways possible? I am genuinely starting to suspect neither you nor Cocoli are even sentient at this point, you only make one liner "le funny" posts and never actually converse with anyone, let alone talk about the game.
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>>728297620
She appears in teh trailer or something? Haven't played since 7.1, i've heard she was let out in 7.3
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>>728300621
You stupid, mate?
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Why won't he just get rid of Wuk Lamat? He got rid of Lyse far sooner and for far less.
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>>728300416
>lady possible cope
NIGGA YOU SAID THIS ABOUT EVERY PATCH IT IS NOT HAPPENING
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>>728299157
I am actually so fucking tired of tacos in this fucking game
Yes we get it meat and spices on a tortilla taste good this is not enough to carry an entire expansion
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>He's still seething
>>728297620
Not really, maybe if Wuk was a sexy, muscular black-skinned Roegadyn male I would like him.
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>>728300813
I always said it would be 7.3 and I'm surprised it wasn't. Seems like they're really intent on forcing Wuk on us.
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>>728300706
Lyse actually had shit to do, everything after SB is Disney wish fulfillment so Wuk just gets to be babied and take credit for our work
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Vizex a bit uppity today...
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>>728300935
Yoshi-P loves her...
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>>728300621
>not mentally disregarding every lalacringe post instantly because of their avatarposting
They literally could not make it easier for you to "filter" them. No addons needed or anything.
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>>728300621
What did you do in XIV today?
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>>728301315
No one plays this trannyslop, you asking this isn't an own.
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The larger community appears to be cottoning on that people who can't stop talking about Wuk Lamat ruining the game are strange outliers and are on an infinite feedback loop from 7.0
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>>728301461
How are you today homestuck?
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>>728301461
>Blame instead of failure
People who still play ffxiv are so desperate
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>>728300706
Wuk was intended to be the new protagonist for DT on forward and he has no idea what to do with the players rejecting the idea.
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>>728301578
>for DT on forward
Imagine developing an inferiority complex against Wuk Lafuckingmat.
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>>728301461
Wuk being forced into the current trailer makes her topical again. You can't scream "Why are you talking about her still!?" when she is actively a part of new content. Why is she being talked about? Because she's in the story, retard.
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>>728301461
Hey little buddy, remember a week ago when you were saying Wuk was guaranteed gone after 7.3 and people still talking about her were insane and obsessed? What happened?
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>>728301461
>the same tranny defense talking point months later
No, it is not rational to continue paying a sub for a bad game just to have a "fair take" on the current MSQ, which we all know still sucks dick without experiencing it.
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>>728301461
Give it a year and then people will finally come around to Wuk being fine. She's good, even.
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Yoshi-P is breaking the glass on the Favour System and Wuk Lamat is the only option for now.
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>>728301461
how many replies to this post are the same guy dumping his guts out in anger
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He's about to reply to everyone calling them dumpy samefagging.
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I dropped this expansion before the end. Have they hinted at what the next will be yet?
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>>728301869
>everyone is the same person when I get BTFO
lmao
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>>728301869
When are you going to resub to this game you spend every day of your life defending, Abel Lowgust (Coeurl)?
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>everybody one person i'm not dumpy shut up homestuck fucking lalafags fucking abel lowgust
Jesus i hate repeats, what else is on?
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>>728301901
Hopefully something good
>>728302006
Pablo's a funny guy albeit
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>>728302006
>Jesus i hate repeats
Hmmmm, I don't think that's true.
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>>728301901
Only real hint to anything I can think of from what they've showed would be Doomtrain popping up as our primal of the week and that was supposed to be a Garlean myth
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Oh yeah boys, we're sperging out real hard in here, I see you

You VILL do your Faux Hollows and WT pre-prep, however
>>728297620
Imagine if we got cute anthro girls that appealed to HMOFA Chads instead, fuck hrothgars
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>>728298398
I like Lamat'i.
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>>728301840
Wuk would be tolerable if the situations she found herself in were also tolerable.
She would also be tolerable if it was a legitimate choice to support or abandon her.
She would also be tolerable if she was a smaller part of the expansion and the rest of the space she occupied was rewritten.
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so, how much further did they rape em?

Dzemael Darkhold

Certain dungeon mechanics have been adjusted.
The positioning of certain monsters has been adjusted.
The All-seeing Eye boss battle has been adjusted.
The Taulurd boss battle has been adjusted.
The Batraal boss battle has been adjusted.

The Aurum Vale

Certain dungeon mechanics have been adjusted.
The positioning of certain monsters has been adjusted.
The Locksmith boss battle has been adjusted.
The Coincounter boss battle has been adjusted.
The Miser's Mistress boss battle has been adjusted.
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>>728302124
"Wuk derangement syndrome" screencap in this wall of autism trying to scrape a post history out of an image hash was perhaps a poor move on your part
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>>728300416
That was supposed to be the last patch with the awkward "Wuk got injured" stuff
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>>728302354
Let me guess, they're all different people with the same opinions, same reaction images, and same typing style? When people hate Wuk though that's all just dumpy controlling the entire internet.
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>>728301461
She's far from the only bad thing about Dawntrail, but at the same time she is the poster child of the expansion, and constantly involved in the parts that are extremely uninteresting, while being extremely uninteresting herself. Thus it is easy to make fun of her, especially when the parts that some thing do get a little interesting are interrupted by her coming in with a big speech about muh people and muh tacos
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>>728302789
Sure but this demographic that's making fun of her is hardly the same thing as the guy directly above you shrieking and shitting his pants for years and getting himself so worked up in a lather he starts throwing around nicknames, screencaps and mass replies

I literally could not ask for a better I AM SILLY strawman to post
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>>728302237
You're probably shitposting but I unironically do. I found her charming, and it reminded me of my character starting his adventure, which I think was the point. Sure she talked too much, and sure the WOL shouldn't have relied on her so much, but it was still fun.
I think Dawntrail was AT LEAST stormblood tier. Maybe between stormblood and ARR.
People don't realize this is just ARR-2. They have to do all this shit to setup the next expansions, the next 5 expansion story arc. Just like ARR. I'm excited. I think they'll tone Wuk Lamat back and the story will pick up a lot next expansion. Just like ARR into Heavensward.
I enjoyed Wuk Lamat's story. That's another thing people don't realize, this expansion was her story, not WOL's story. Which I can understand not liking. But I didn't mind it. WOL already saved the world many times over, I think the idea of almost mentoring a new adventurer is a fun route to take.
Everything else about the expansion has been amazing too. Hildibrand is great, so is the raid tier, the beast tribes I've loved, the music amazing. Wuk Lamat is not as big a deal as people make her out to be. Nor is she as bad as people say.

/essay
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>implying anyone would waste even the minuscule mental energy of re-reading posts in previous 14 threads on a screen-cap
Never ever, do yourself a favor and delete screenshots of 4chan threads.
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>>728302339
>>Dzemael Darkhold
I assume they got rid of the whole "stand in crystal light" and also changed the "break the crystal" part on the final boss

>The Aurum Vale
Probably deleted the "eat fruit to get rid of the dots" on the first boss, and of the debuff stacks mechanics for the last boss, too complicated for new players.

I dunno how they can make coincounter even more braindead than they already did
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>>728301315
>What did you do in XIV today?
Nothing, I quit this slop after the first month of Dawntrail for WuWa and I haven't looked back
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>>728302953
>People don't realize this is just ARR-2. They have to do all this shit to setup the next expansions
That's bullshit. Dawntrail spent 40 hours on Wuk Lamat being a retard who learns nothing. ARR set up dozens of different plot threads that we followed all the way into EW.
>That's another thing people don't realize, this expansion was her story
No, everyone realizes that. Her story was just raw sewage.
>I think the idea of almost mentoring a new adventurer is a fun route to take.
When did that happen?
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>>728302953
Is this pasta
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Honestly I don't give a shit about these two dungeons. Nobody liked these in Arr and still no one likes them. Dismal Dickhold and Stinky Vale are the bottom of the barrel.

I'm still mad about Sohr Kino being removed though.
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What are the odds she's in 8.0 too?
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>>728303254
>That's bullshit. Dawntrail spent 40 hours on Wuk Lamat being a retard who learns nothing. ARR set up dozens of different plot threads that we followed all the way into EW.
But she did learn things. She went from a retard to a learning leader. And obviously we don't know all the plot threads that'll be followed yet, they haven't BEEN followed yet.
>No, everyone realizes that. Her story was just raw sewage.
I think you'd be surprised how many people don't realize that, or refuse to accept it at least.
>When did that happen?
The entire expansion while she's asking us for advice and help?
>>728303362
No just my truly dogshit opinions.
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>>728303228
>Pays for a RANDOM CHANCE to get the character he likes
At least with a sub you get guaranteed value.
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>>728303467
High that she makes a cameo, low that shes a core cast member.
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>>728303467
100%, she's the new protagonist.
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The absolutes state of this "game"
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>>728303467
>>728303629
They're literally deleting (you)r character and making you play Wuk from now on.
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>>728303582
>>Pays for a RANDOM CHANCE to get the character he likes

It's called not being a lucklet.
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>>728303712
At least Wuk will do more damage than my character. She basically solo'd the Speeeen fight.
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>>728303683
This .mp4 would be find if they didn't include any male characters in it, why include fag shit?
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>>728303542
>But she did learn things. She went from a retard to a learning leader.
She didn't learn anything the entire time. Wuk Lamat never learns anything because she's never challenged. She walks in, does something retarded, and it just works because the universe made it work so she could win the contest. At what point does she learn anything? What does she learn? When does she learn to be a leader and how?
>And obviously we don't know all the plot threads that'll be followed yet, they haven't BEEN followed yet.
There aren't any plot threads that were set up, dipshit. Nothing happens. There are no lingering questions to follow up on.
>I think you'd be surprised how many people don't realize that
I think you're delusional and trying to pretend everyone must be stupid because we're capable of noticing the glaring problems with the story.
>The entire expansion while she's asking us for advice and help?
Where?
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>I love my country and its people and everything about it but I would never ever ever EVER learn any of its culture at all until I need to to become queen of it
>But tacos, am I right?
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>>728303467
Yeah and she has a giant schlong now ( not circumcised ) and can facefuck you in vr.
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>>728303467
Her name is Seventh Dawn in Mayan.
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Reminder that Yoshi-P, in an interview, said that he explicity had Wuk Lamat designed to be "attractive". Attractive to WHO?
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people unironically defending wuk trannymat are midwits and should not be engaged with, please stop.
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>>728303542
>No just my truly dogshit opinions
Fair enough, I've seen these exact thoughts before and it's like I've played a different Dawntrail where they completely failed in portraying any of that
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>>728297620
It's amazing to me that SE managed to make a character so insufferable that a fanbase full of monsterfuckers hates a bigass cat lady.
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>>728303228
I fell off 14 hard but I can't imagine a Genshinlike becoming an obsession
>I'm gonna play the most dog shit brainless button mashing combat possible, because if I'm lucky and pull right I'll get the privilege of playing it less
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you WILL enjoy yet another MSQ section about lalas
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>>728303542
>And obviously we don't know all the plot threads that'll be followed yet, they haven't BEEN followed yet.
Anon, ishgard, ala mhigo, the syndicate, dragons, allagans, zodiark, garleans, hydaelyn, everything was set up from ARR. And these plothreads were all expanded on in HW. And the world was expanded on in SB, (with those plotthreads being the only ones that haven't been tied up), things like isolationist hingashi are plot threads to be followed tautologically.
EW and DT were fucking obsessed with shutting down plot threads and refusing to set up anything that could go anywhere. The only new threads to follow are the cum chalice and the winterers, with Vidraals possibly being a direct replacement for primals.
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>>728303914
>There are no lingering questions to follow up on.
>ignoring Calyx, the hourglass, ascians returning, etc

>Where?
You're not arguing in good faith. You know where she did, or you didn't play. Either way, I'm not going to argue with you further.
>>728304125
I feel like a lot of people, possibly you included, went in expecting to hate it because of /v/. Like ok, let's agree to disagree on the MSQ. Surely you think the raid tier is good? It's arguably their best yet.
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>>728303683
Why is sex bad? Explain your ideological opposition to fanservice.
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>This is who Yoshi-P thought was the perfect fit to voice the female lead of the newest expansion.
What the FUCK was he THINKING???
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>>728303774
>I just got lucky bro
Okay? Doesn't work as a general argument, faggot.
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>>728298887
>that raised as a boy programming cuts deep
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ABSOLUTE PUSSY
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>>728304063
>who would find a tomboy catgirl with abs and a tight ass attractive
I think you might be gay, anon.
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>>728304245
>ignoring Calyx, the hourglass, ascians returning, etc
Those are all a single plot thread, and most of that is from fucking 7.3. Tural is an entire two continents of NOTHING. This anon alread explainedwhat was laid out in ARR, for your comparison. And he doesn't even name all of it >>728304221
>You're not arguing in good faith. You know where she did, or you didn't play. Either way, I'm not going to argue with you further.
I played Dawntrail, which is why I know you're full of shit. You're not going to argue any further because you can't actually back up your position when challenged on it. At no point in Dawntrail does WoL ever mentor Wuk. Because she never needs it. She's naturally right and pure and her natural goodness just makes everything work out the instant she starts talking.
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>>728297620
I have a feeling there won't be voiced lines. 7.3 ended so weird, like there was a whole send off only for us to visit her again? So weird.
I guess there's an implied mini timeskip between 7.3 and 7.4, considering the funeral stuff they talked about doing on Everkeep had a short story referencing it.
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>>728304313
>Now this kid has the swagger of a genki Latina!
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>>728302151
>Imagine if we got cute anthro girls that appealed to HMOFA Chads instead, fuck hrothgars
Wouldn't you prefer a big black male roegadyn instead? Like you routinely love to remind us.
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>>728304221
Vidraals are more showing the auspice phenomenon isn't unique to Othard/Hingashi/Doma, concepts are still primals but the Winterers being able to purpose design primals more or less whenever they want and the only requisite after that is fuel is pretty scary

They're gonna move more from engineering social problems from the shadows via the Garleans being oppressive dickheads to engineering social problems very directly through promises and lies like they did on the other shards, either way the goal is getting primals and calamities to wipe eachother out for their own ends
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Imagine being the furry character with most lines and screentime of all Final Fantasy games and lose to a 25 year old character
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>>728304413
>single plot thread
Come on man. Yes, ARR had more, I don't deny that, but I'm struggling to believe you actually played Dawntrail. Especially since you don't think the WOL mentored Wuk. The entire expansion was exactly that.
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>>728302339
Honestly didn't matter because only time you'd be running these was for ARR relics, which I finished all of them already. Literally all Zetas TWICE.
Dzemael not having the "stand in the glowing circle for 30 seconds to unlock the door" would be a huge improvement.
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>>728304629
FFXIV NPCs, if they're not a Scion, either get one autist dominating 95% of the 1,000 image total space or they get no art at all
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>>728304413
>Tural is an entire two continents of NOTHING
It is kinda crazy that the entire hemisphere got boiled down to "dead baby pit, tacos, that cowboy town from Undertale Yellow"
People were expecting like an entire expansion on the Walachee tribe alone
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>>728304632
>but I'm struggling to believe you actually played Dawntrail
If this is the level of debate you're going to stoop to, then I can just make the same accusation. You haven't played Dawntrail. Wow, look at that. Now the argument can't go anywhere. How about instead of making unfalsifiable accusations, you back up your own stupid fucking claim?
>Especially since you don't think the WOL mentored Wuk. The entire expansion was exactly that.
No, that's what it was ADVERTISED AS. That's not what it actually was. Because WoL never mentors Wuk. Go on and tell me when it happened. You can't.
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>>728304063
to me unironically
(I didn't play the game I don't care about mmorpg because I know everyone online is actually a fat hairy neet like me)

make a dating game.
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>>728304546
>being able to purpose design primals more or less whenever they want and the only requisite after that is fuel is pretty scary
We already did this once with Alexander and again with the lunar primals
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>>728304632
His argument is Wuk is a Mary Sue which is on-screen simply not true, she gets the shit kicked out of her a bunch of times before finding her footing and she never *stopped* being stupid, that's still a thing for her all the way up to now and makes up the basis for her being the PR and strength ruler, not the intellectual ruler (that's Koana)
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>>728304191
>I'm gonna play the most dog shit brainless button mashing combat possible,
But enough about FFXIV, also

>because if I'm lucky and pull right I'll get the privilege of playing it less
You literally lose access to your characters, to your ENTIRE GAME if you stop paying your monthly subscription. All that time and money you spent on the game? Fuck you, you didn't pay this month so you don't get to play anymore. Will never happen in a gacha game.
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>>728297620
Wuk is staying in Tural
Once we leave, she is staying
Obviously
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>>728304930
Wuk is the definition of a mary sue.
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>>728304916
Alexander was less purpose-built and more self-fulfilling prophecy courtesy of time loop
Lunar primals are dumb Zodiark-y versions of existing primals
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>>728304950
Bro I literally said I fell off 14 I don't care that you're attacking it too
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>>728304930
She literally asspulls a powerup out of no where that would make even the shittiest Shonen protagonist blush.
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>>728297620
Yes. Id rather talk to her than any of the Scions.
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Is there even a point to playing ffxiv any more?
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Sphene my wife
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>>728305189
If there is still content you like doing, sure
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>>728304801
God I wish it was more like that.
>>728304930
Thank you for wording it better than I ever could, I'm not very smart.
>>728304853
Off the top of my head? Valigarmanda's little chapter.
Dude, the ENTIRE expansion was about her going to different tribes, learning something, then moving to the next one. To the point it got repetitive. But like I said, you don't know that because you didn't play it.
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>>728304930
>new character that invades the story and becomes the most important
>established characters all inexplicably love this new character
>established characters begin acting out of character to facilitate the new character's circlejerk
>anyone who doesn't like the new character is comically evil
>new character's "flaws" never actually impede her, they're just silly and cute
>new character never struggles, everything just naturally sets itself up so she can be right and win
>new character's greatest strength is that she's just naturally pure and nice and good so much that even the hardest hearts see the error of their ways when she extends a hand
>not a mary sue
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What have you been grindan lately anon? For me it was the resistance relic(s)
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>login
>do 1 FL
>log out
My FC is also dead. im starting to think mmorpgs are just dying in general
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>>728305119
Breaking limits not being something unique to Warro Light really mind-broke some people huh
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>>728305362
>Off the top of my head? Valigarmanda's little chapter.
Where? What are you talking about? When does WoL ever mentor Wuk there?
>Dude, the ENTIRE expansion was about her going to different tribes, learning something, then moving to the next one.
No, the entire expansion was about Wuk going to different tribes, naturally being right and winning everyone over the moment she speaks, and then moving on.
>But like I said, you don't know that because you didn't play it.
Nope, you didn't play it. See how that works?
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>>728300429
Who turned the girl from GUP into a lala?
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>>728305407
My HS classes don't even know what an MMO is. If I were a major dev or publisher I would stay far far away from this genre.
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>>728305189
>Is there even a point to playing ffxiv any more?
Vizex clearly still likes it, since he's been subbed for every single month of Dawntrail and based on his daily posting, he literally plays every single day. So surely it must still be good.
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>>728304930
When did she ever get her shit kicked in, she only took a blow from Bakool Ja Ja
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>>728305401
With the 7.4 update coming I'll probably be grinding the hell out of the newest relics, but maybe I'll go back and do a cheeky Bozja relic or two. Only ARR relic I have left that I want is Sasuke's Blades
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>>728305026
Anon Alexander was designed as a primal to be a utopia it doesn't matter that a time loop was involved, it was tailor designed for a purpose, and the lunar primals were the same fucking thing, and mostly used as a test bed for making Anima to take advantage of Garlean patriotism
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>>728305362
>no the advertisements said it happened so it must have happened, i can't say when it happened but it must have because the ads said so
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>>728303467
70% at this rate
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>>728305510
>But what about WoL?!
(You) asspull all the time too. Doesn't change the fact Wuk is a mary sue.
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>>728305510
Nah it's because it fucks with the story if characters can just get stronger like that, Dynamis should never be brought outside Endwalker
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>>728305737
Alexander's design comes from the Enigma Codex which is part and parcel with his own time paradoxical existence
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>7.55
>the cum chalice explodes on its own and opens a portal
>WoL stumbles to his feet
>looks around
>Wuk is there
>"Wow, looks like we're stranded all alone in this new world! Let's explore!"
>TIME
>NO MORE ONCE UPON A TIME
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My solutiuon is to have reisntalled XI.
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>>728304801
THIS
THIS IS THE ISSUE. The equivalent of two entire real world continents of cultures was simplified into a homogenized sludge stereotype empire that already solved all its problems except for extremely temporary artificial and basic ones that are to be wrapped up by the end of 7.0. There is nothing to be gained from the reed birds after reteaching them how to grow their reeds that are their only resource for both food and shelter.
Even the golem trains in ShB were used to make a mountain sized robot during the climax of 5.0.
If you were going to make tural like this you could have at the least not have had their empire cover the entire continent.
Or maybe y'know, have the WoL not win the succession for the princess? Have the empire not be as peaceful as it seems on the surface? Have political tensions within the diverse communities of the land? Have these tensions come to a head as the strongman leader is assassinated by his own son? Have the empire break up into smaller states following the various dawnservants which achieve an uneasy peace by the end of 7.0?
And thats only one option, I'm sure there were several stories that were axed by the whole "the scions are not conquistadors" rule the diversity consultants set.
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>>728305620
>Nope, you didn't play it. See how that works?
See, the difference is I can name things that happened, like Valigarmanda. You can't. You say things that are blatantly wrong, such as "winning everyone over the moment she speaks."
That's how I know I'm right, and that you didn't play. She didn't win over the Yok Huy until fighting Valigarmanda, she didn't win over the Mamool Ja until helping stop the blessed sibling thing (and even then it takes the beast tribe to really win them over), she didn't win over half of Solution Nine, which was an entire plot point. See how I'm naming things that happened? See how you can't? Go ahead and pull up some wiki pages, I'm done responding to you. Try again next thread.
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Excuse me? Please make way for the Game of the Year.
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>>728305923
Characters get stronger all the fucking time, Estinien inheriting Nidhogg's power from being possessed by the dragon didn't fuck with the story, Krile whipping pictomancy out of her ass didn't fuck with the story, Alphinaud getting a Sage stone from his mom didn't fuck with the story, Alisaie dropping out from Red Mage schooling didn't fuck with the story
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>navmesh
>questionable
>wrathcombo
>lifestream
YEP, MSQ TIME!
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>>728305639
>If I were a major dev or publisher I would stay far far away from this genre.
its a genre for millennials and Gen Xers and they're now a generation with not much time due to working. So yeah... not great. zoomers and gen alpha wont touch an MMO
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>>728306062
>She didn't win over the Yok Huy until fighting Valigarmanda
You reminded me of that moment where the evil giants decide not to kill us because she saved them from a bird coming out of nowhere
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>>728306156
Those are gonna be disabled for a few days, buddy. How are you gonna xivv on patch day?
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>>728305510
>ignoring the fact that Wuk gets slapped around and blocked effortlessly with one hand then barely any time later not only pulls WoL tier limit breaking but also now fights the very characters who were so effortlessly beating her in every way despite ZERO training or build up or anything to suggest she'd have gotten stronger to face the stronger opponent
She's a blatant mary sue who gets stronger for zero reason despite only knowing some random hunting expeditions and big dad's trials are practically tailored to her Disney princess antics. She also stole so much time from Krile, the only Scion who has any reason to travel to Tural beyond the WoL getting personally asked to aid Wuk in the Rite.
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>>728306062
>See, the difference is I can name things that happened
You literally can't. I keep telling you to do exactly that, and you can't.
>You can't.
But I can.
>You say things that are blatantly wrong, such as "winning everyone over the moment she speaks."
This is literally what happens everywhere she goes. The biggest example is in Mamook.
>She didn't win over the Yok Huy until fighting Valigarmanda
Oops, you should have watched the cutscenes on youtube. Then you would have known that the universe provided a random bird from nowhere so she could protect the evil Yok Huy and make the "TOTAL TURAL DEATH NOW" tribe like her.
>she didn't win over the Mamool Ja until helping stop the blessed sibling thing
She stopped the blessed sibling shit by talking to them. What the fuck? You have it completely backwards. Her talking to them and offering help is exactly what stopped it.
>See how I'm naming things that happened? See how you can't?
You're literally making up a completely different story than what happened. And you STILL can not name a time WoL mentored Wuk, on top of that.
>I'm done responding to you.
Yeah you said that earlier. Make sure you reply again like a good little bitch.
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>>728306267
By force injecting dalamud like i always do.
If it crashes then ill take a 3 day break, it won't kill me.
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>>728306327
>WoL tier limit breaking
Wuk Lamat's biggest hype-boys are her detractors
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>>728306119
Any random shitter being able to instantly become infinitely strong the moment they get emotional kind of shits on every single conflict that has ever happened. Why didn't the Ishgardians limit break Nidhogg? Why didn't a random Ala Mhigan limit break Gaius?
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>>728306119
There's a difference between these and Dynamis or believing in yourself or whatever
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>>728306327
>Krilefag
Krile only exists to be a plot device in the MSQ and if Wulk wasnt there none of that would change LOL. Face it, your shitty potato wife is useless every expansion.
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>>728306558
Yeah the difference is it's not Wuk Lamat doing it so it's OK.

OK now enough of the Elpis infinite discussion loop shit. Show me your favorite glamour
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>>728306649
What?
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>>728306448
Dynamis hadn't been invented yet, duh
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>>728306119
Now it's been a while since 7.0, but doesn't she fight the penultimate boss to a draw?
The guy who pre-timeskipped was stated and shown to be the biggest dick on the continent by an insane margin and effortlessly smoked her and Bakool Ja Ja?
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>>728306786
>doesn't she fight the penultimate boss to a draw?
No, neither Zoraal Ja nor Queen Eternal
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>>728297620
I haven't played the game since the start of dawntrail, and I didn't even bother to get endwalker. So no.
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my fc is dead my ls are dead the pf is dead the mb is dead LMAO
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>>728306327
>Any random shitter being able to instantly become infinitely strong
This straight up doesn't happen, Wuk Lamat jumps up to maybe a Scion level and still probably would get smoked by Estinien or Thancred in a fight.
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>>728306786
>effortlessly smoked her and Bakool Ja Ja?
That isn't smoke, it's steam
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>>728298398
I didn't think she was gone until 7.3. It really felt like that was closing the book on her but apparently not. I guess we still don't have the minion, yet.
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>>728306975
get off your dead server then
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>>728306854
Wasn't there that bit near the dome tunnel where they clashed and he bailed?
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>>728306119
All of these, even Estinien's are in line with the themes of passing on power and knowledge to a new generation. Nidhogg explicitly gave the azure dragoons power through his eye, job stones explicitly hold the memories of people who were better than you at a fighting style so you can quickly change tactics without training fundamentals.
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>>728307080
Ragebaiting her and was already spiraling towards absorbing a load of souls to trance
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>>728307080
Yeah, she broke his regulator and then he went away to eat souls
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>>728306854
You forgot the scene where she realizes she should swing her axe at Zoraal Ja's head?
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>>728306786
Doesn't look like a draw to me.
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>>728307301
Nigga do you know what a penultimate is?
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"....you're pretty good."
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>>728307272
She nabbed his get-out-of-jail-free card
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bros you don't understand she broke her limits characters do that all the time...
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>>728307369
Yea its my penis ultimately in your mouth.
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>>728307301
>>728307512
>misunderstand assignment
>double down
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she limit broke her dialogue too
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>>728307738
What's a Sphene?
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Every ass beating you survive makes you stronger, it's basic anime logic.
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>>728307805
have you sphene deez nuts
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>>728307738
Where's one that is updated to the current patch?
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>>728307512
Still can't get over how abruptly that fight ends, they just stun you during the 2nd absolute authority and remove all the mechanics for the 2nd phase
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had no idea this game was still going
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>>728307857
all the redditors stopped caring, so these dialogue charts stopped being made around 7.2
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Where's Wuk Lamat?
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>>728307994
Why wouldn't it be
Its still one of the most popular MMOs
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DRG players, explain
why do you play a class that is mogged by an NPC in every expansion
And that's mogged by V|PR in gameplay, too?
what causes this?
t. MNK pro
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>>728308106
Looks cool as fuck
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>>728308106
>why do you play a class that is mogged by an NPC in every expansion
i can equip trueblood with no helmet and have an identical experience
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>>728308106
Estinean is my boy for life
I got him, he got me
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>>728308078
because mmos are expensive to make and maintain ontop of being a dead genre
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>>728308106
Estinien is the GOAT
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>>728308106
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How do we save Final Fantasy XIV?
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>>728308047
Is there a reason you use spoiler tags so much, Abel?
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>>728308427
Add romance options
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>>728308427
Bring back all hebe characters for a harem and bring back all dead waifus to reincarnate as your daughterwives.
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>>728308354
XIV still makes a lot of money for SE
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>>728308427
kill this man >>728308469
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>>728298398
>>728297620
That's cool Yoshida, I'm happy for you dog.
>never resubs entire expansion and clears the entire story on 4 day free logins exclusively
>doesn't order the next expansion until I get the all clear the course is corrected from players who did or simply not buy at all if it isn't
My spirit animal is a jewish rabbi and CBU3's "From Software" styled reputation was shredded after DT, you will never fuck me again because the trust level is negative.
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>>728308106
So they can pretend to be favorite spear wielders from the Final Fantasy series
featuring guy who died like a bitch
shitty class only good for 1 fight (garuda)
guy who constantly got mindraped and stabbed his friends in the back
shitty class only good for nothing
shitty class that technically doesn't even exist
wife beater who only survived because he didn't wear the dragoon armor
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>>728304507
lol u mad
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>>728308710
kain being the biggest power cuck in the franchise is what makes him endearing
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is she still in 7.4? wtf
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>>728308710
>wife beater who only survived because he didn't wear the dragoon armor
Literally me
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>>728308710
>forgotten rat ff9
>woman with no introduction or screentime in ff15
>the woman who keeps trying to cause the apocalypse ff13
>the original furry but hes also a blue mage ff10
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>>728306013
this nigga would love woke lmao

tendiecore character
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>>728297620
I think Wuk is gonna be in the next xpac at this rate
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>>728309146
honest to god i think we're gonna get a lot of pissed streamers and ragebaiters when she *isn't* around for next expansion
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>>728308427
Win back the story chads. Do that and everything else works itself out.
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>>728308427
Remove lalashits from the game, and remove the people who play from IRL
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>>728309769
Based
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>>728308106
Canonically, you're both Azure Dragoon
He consider himself your partner, your equal (not romantically, of course), in Japanese he even call you "Aibo".

DRG players usually fucking adore Estinien because he's your bro, you got his back and he's got yours.
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>>728306013
I'd be hitting that unsubscribe button real quick
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>>728303467
100%. New protag. Yoshi p will say fuck the fans the tranny stays.
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>>728309423
But DT has a good story and subs started to drop immediately. Storychuds won't save shit.
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wuk lamat rape correcting stupid chuds
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>>728310270
Yes, Dawntrail is definitely known for its 10/10 story
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>>728310270
DT had a shit story and story chads started to flee with the EW patches. Bringing them back will raise the mood all across the fandom improving everything. Unfortunately, FF14's story is basically over after EW and I don't think you can fix it.
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>>728310270
>DT has a good story
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>>728304629
Wuk is super butch and ugly, she definitely does not appeal to furry chads
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>>728308417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktvTqknDobU
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>>728302525
They cucked out on the injury in that patch
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>>728310435
Very easy to fix.
Return to Ivalice Revengeance
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>>728300401
>SBEEEEEEEEEEEN
>LEEEESUN TO MEEEEEeeeee
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>>728311064
>Speeeeeen...reasoooon to peeee
Am I missing part of the story, what did Wuk mean by this?
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>>728308106
The first mmo i played was because of an ad with tummy armor
And ffxiv was for the same reason.
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>>728308553
fair enough
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>"slxt" as surname
confirmed female or larping tr*nny?
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>>728311345
The only other place I've seen slut as "slxt" or some variation is a fat australian tranny named "sewerslvt"
It's a dead ringer like "lilith"
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>>728312125
that's exactly xher name holy shit lmao
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What is going on in XIV right now man this setting is awful. We're in a literal shonen tournament arc
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>>728312125
>>728312227
oh I see its a YT musician.. okay not that weird then that they'd be copying the name
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Every single scene with a Lala in it would be better if the Lala was removed.
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>>728297620
would wuk lamat have been better if she was voiced by an actual female?
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>>728312934
No
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>>728312934
No because she's still ass even in the JP dub
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>>728310376
oh no!?
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dead game...
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>>728312741
Then, you replace it with 3 more lalafells. Amplify the kino.
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>>728312934
I switched to the Japanese voice actors and yeah, marginally
She's still annoying and uninteresting though
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>>728312934
>still hated in JP
hmmm....
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>>728312560
pov the year is 2017 and we have entered a shonen tournament arc
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>>728298373
Zero. And that's what they fucking deserve for making DT.
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>>728313290
T-THAT DOESN'T COUNT FUCKING CHUD!
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>>728304696
Alisaie has at least two autists, that dark skinned Elezen and the Au Ra dude, other female npcs are lucky to get even one autist who waifus them.
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>>728314098
the way The Community™ is right now i'd sooner assume it's a chud screaming at me about weeb cringe than coming to its defense honestly
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These threads are perpetually stuck in july 2024
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>>728304950
>Gachatroon spergs out after someone points out that gachashit is for america-iq mouthbreathers
>Starts screeching about ff14 even when its being shat on too
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>>728314373
Ummm my criticism is heckin valid and frickin evergreen actually.
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>>728304629
Freya is actually cute, feminine and curvy
It also helps that she's likeable
https://files.catbox.moe/fgdpdd.jpg Ratto sexo
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>>728314373
Can't move on man. 10 years of story and then that.
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i never bought dawntrail
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>>728314774
I don't think there's a storyteller alive that wouldn't have stumbled making up a new arc after hastily wrapping up the old one
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>>728304950
gachatroons will say this and then piss and shit when servers get shut down
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I have 20 glams ready for upboats on Eorzea Collection, what about you guys? You HAVE been farming x3/x7 guaranteed comms glams to have on day one, right?
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>>728314827
Yet you still spend time in threads for it? That's just sad in a different way.
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>>728314876
There's stumbling and there's faceplanting. They faceplanted.
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>>728315090
only the /v/ ones to say that i didn't buy it
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>>728314373
Better than being stuck in December of 2021
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>>728315102
Naw faceplanting would have had people crowing WoW did a better story with The War Within
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>>728315075
Why would I need to farm comms I got all the achievements like a decade ago
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>>728314876
>>728315187
Dumb tranny
There's literally never been a worse story than Dawntrail
I'm embarrassed to even play this game since DT
Can't believe new players will have to get through THAT
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>>728298560
Best Talos.
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>>728315430
That's quite enough lad TWW still lost, even with "the worst story ever" behind Dawntrail
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>>728312934
It would make the english dub listenable but it wouldn't be enough to salvage her character.
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>>728315187
>no if they faceplanted it would have happened exactly like this hyper-specific cope i imagined
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>>728315229
Number go up, I have all comm cheevos too
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>>728315187
>>728315534
Why are you babbling about WoW? What did you do in Final Fantasy today?
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>>728314673
Unf rat pubes
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>>728314373
That's because nobody plays this shitty game anymore so the shitposts are no longer being updated.
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>>728303774
That killed any potential interest I had in that game
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>>728316030
I'm playededing the game.
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I think that Wuk would be more liked if she wore this outfit all the time
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>You fail to attach the Gatherer's Grasp XI Materia to the Crested Necklace of Gathering. 62 materia were lost in the process.
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>>728298443
>she would be hot if she had huge tits
Ironically the same thing her VA thought.
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>>728315075
>still needing comms
Call me when they add more achievements related to them
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>>728298963
If she is assassinated by a Namazu, I will buy a lifetime subscription.
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please post ryne
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>buffing amount of commendation crystals players earn
So the armor definitely costs x10 per set. Time to save up for the SB and SHB sets next expansion
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>>728317069
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>>728297620
dying game in a dead genre
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So where was the "summer vacation" we were promised?
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>>728317069
>>728317256
RYNE
NO MORE ONCE UPON A RYNE
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>>728312934
if she had been voiced by a girl and been a cute human or elezen maybe
her jp voice is pretty decent generic jp tomboy, she'd be forgiveable if the model was cute and fuckable
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How would (You) fix FFXIV?
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>>728316520
or if she didnt look like a tranny
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>>728301461
I don't think it was Wuk Lamat. There's small things you can change around her to redeem the entire expansion. For example, what if the new race that was added wasn't man-bear-dyke-cat but cute faerie girls? Instant and massive subscription boost. This one thing ... with the manbeardykecat taking up one of the very few character race slots ... was a MASSIVE blunder. And Wuk Lamat being a constant reminder of that just amplifies the problem.

The MSQ is a tiny part of the game in the long run. But unique character races? That is permanent and global. It was absolutely CRITICAL that the last race slot was taking by something players would be shitting themselves to re-roll as.
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>>728317385
Revert to patch 4.58 and try again
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>>728317412
>cute faerie girls
This is nu-XIV, we'd get valid faerie enbies.
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>>728298398
She's not a problem for me cause I play with JP voices
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>>728297620
How do you fuck up 'Genki Catgirl Barbarian' as a character?
I am genuinely baffled at how badly they handled it
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>>728317636
wuk will always be a shit character, but her being a furry really didn't help
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>>728298963
>LISTEN and LEAEN.
UMMMM ARE YOU GONNA LEAEN?
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>>728317735
>but her being a furry really didn't help
It's 2025, people don't even care about hating anthro women anymore
Wuk is simply insufferable
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>>728305401
i've been grinding my dick on dem tiddies!
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>>728317735
It wouldn't have detracted given how normalized anthro females are in modern media
It just seems like an easy character to market that you would have to actually put effort into making unlikeable.
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>>728317909
kys
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>>728317613
Posss-eerrrrrrr~
JP hates her as well, it's a writing issue, not a VA issue. YWNBAJS :)
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>>728317385
Lean into slice of life stuff. It's obvious people use it as a sort of second existence. They were on the right track with Island Sanctuary, but it was too pocketed. Implement full-featured homesteading like Harvest Moon or Stardew Valley, and especially an NPC dating system. People fucking love that in games. Add activities you can do with your NPC girlfriend/wife and just keep expanding on that system. Make it the fucking Sims with dungeon crawling.

The soul of the game is already gone. They killed it. There is no dignity to preserve. All that's left is clinging to life. And adding this stuff would surge the subscription count.
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>>728317385
1) let me groom Alphinaud into being a crossdressing slut
2) more optional bonding cutscenes with NPCs in general would be nice. they wouldn't be required to progress the MSQ, they'd just be for our sake. It would help put the role-playing in MMORPG.
3) Ryne sexo
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>>728318074
Nah
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>>728317385
scrolling official forums and /v/ threads session with yoshida while he bakes cookies and drinks wine again
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>>728318148
>JP hates her as well it's a writing issue, not a VA issue.
Yeah, cause she stole Krile's spotlight, nothing to do with the troon. Therefore, her limited voicelines post DT have been acceptable. If you are still playing with EN voices, then it's a (You) problem.
>YWNBAJS :)
:(
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>>728317385
beat yoshi p with a cast iron frying pan for not killing modding
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>>728317385
Hire a competent writer and ignore the New World and everything from it forever going forward.
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>>728318309
modded hair is so shit
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>>728300401
sphene anal mating press
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>>728318219
Not in-game but I'd highly recommend the official high-school manga they released a while back. The characters translate insanely well to the Slice of Life setting. An anime adaptation would do wonders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyVONYS2wRk
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>>728317385
more midcore content instead of only ultimates and peepee poopoo dungeons. idk maybe a new style of content instead of the same 3 things recycled constantly
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>>728318706
removing them from the game
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give them more plot relevance
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>>728318706
Sluttier outfits
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>>728297620
Her name is LITERALLY "Venat Seventhdawn", may as well call her "Crystal Finalfantasy" or "Maincharacter Finalfantasyfourteen"
You WILL rike her, chud of light.
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>>728318834
they get to be a joke is that not enough?
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>>728318834
Berry nice, I like poison darkness the most
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>>728297620
nah I'm done with this expansion
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>adding more stuff to buy with Trophy Crystals
Well that's nice and all, but how about some more shit for Wolf Marks, like holy shit I keep capping on them because I have nothing to buy with them.
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>>728319518
Buy dark matter.
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>>728319518
You VILL spend 20k on 2 whole materia and you VILL be happy...
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why is the leader of every nation a woman
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>>728319518
They never did make weapons for the roman stuff or late allagan, although you could argue that the classical set from EW counts as the weapons since the armor is reskin. That said just buy ventures, glam prisms, and dark matter for repairs.
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>>728319825
Aymeric, Raubahn, and Hien are men.
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>>728318706
give them better mods
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>>728319825
Women are powerful, chud. Listen and learn. Ishgard, Gyr Abania, Othard, Thavnair, Hingashi, and Sharlyan are not led by women, howbeit.
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>>728298398
>They had Wuk voiced by that tranny at the game awards for the 'Best community nominee awards'
I was crying laughing at people in the numerous chats shitting on the troon.
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>>728301461
>The Wider community
All 10 of them.
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>>728301461
>The larger community
Your discord circlejerk is only large in the sense that they're all fatasses thanks to all the estradiol.
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>>728312934
Yes 100% and if she had a good VA it could have saved the character.
There are plenty of stiff written characters in the game but they've got amazing VA's so people don't fixate so much on them. A shitty VA can make or break a character.
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>>728318673
Trials are midcore
Foray is midcore
Deep dungeon is midcore
Dungeons used to be midcore but trusts and powercreep have changed that and there's no going back
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>>728320819
When people say "midcore" content in the context of XIV, it means long meaningful grinds that are enjoyable because the combat is enjoyable, like XI had. But it's impossible for XIV to deliver this because XIV combat feels like trash, so it's something people will never stop asking for.
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>>728321313
Don't be retarded, the combat was fun before the 2 minute homogenization kate golbez meta
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>>728299309
Having Wuk shriek about peace and happiness during the game awards was certainly a choice
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>>728301859
God, i miss ARR.
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>>728320819
all those are bottom rung casual content
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>>728321458
the combat was fun if you've never played another MMO before. (it's not)
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>>728321601
XIV combat is just a WoW combat clone, therefor WoW and XIV have horrible combat
Cope
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>>728303914
Wuk Lamat learns she loves peace and happiness

She drags us out of our inn room and demands we accompany her to the top of the city so she can shout it from the rooftops
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>>728320819
Extremes aren't midcore, to be midcore it needs to be completable with the duty finder.
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>>728301901
Something about cold and quests for immortality
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>>728302339
It hurts, why do they keep ruining things
At least I got to see the originals for these, there are dungeons that got ruined before I started
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>>728321784
See? You proved my point completely, you've obviously never played WoW, the responsiveness and the existence of trinkets alone makes its combat orders of magnitude more fun, it's not even a comparison. Prove you've played literally any other MMO in existence (you won't because you can't).
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>>728322083
You both can explode for all I care
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>>728322083
So XIV is original and not a WoW clone now?
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>>728321516
Looking at the trailers for ARR/ Heavensward and the patches and they were pushing out actual gameplay and trying to add in new systems, new things for people to try, for people to play.
Stormblood it slowed down but they still tried. Then Shadowbringers changed everything.
Good MSQ, amazing MSQ really but that overshadowed the rest of the game and made them complacent and lazy, stopped with the gameplay so much, started homogenization.
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>>728322045
the only dungeons substantially impacted by the changes are
>thousand maws of toto-rak removed the dogshit slowing goop patches and magitek photocells item fetches that nobody liked
>sohr khai got a revamped hraesvelgr boss that is better than the original one
>drowned city of skalla doesn't turn you into a puffball to cross gaps anymore
that's really it unless somebody's gonna fly a flag for 39808324 tonze swing and slash having tells now in aurum veil
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>>728322083
I've played wow, the "snappiness" wowfags talk about is that blinks and jumps feel less jank and that pushing a button causes an explosion of numbers immediately rather than after an animation plays
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in how many hours is maint
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>>728322173
XIV is a WoW clone, but you''re continuing to prove you've never played WoW if you think their combat feels the same
>>728322331
XIV and WoW are both trannyslop that aren't worth playing right now, but WoW's combat will always be more fun than XIV's.
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>>728322201
>but that overshadowed the rest of the game and made them complacent and lazy
yoshida brought that up when mentioning 8.0 and 7.0 revamps
they got lazy because it made QA easier and no real other specific reason
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>>728318706
Impregnatilm
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>Wow...so people in one area of my land can be different from people in another area of my land...
>Now I understand, I like peace and happiness!
Bros, what a journey, I've never been this choked up over a video game story before
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>>728322467
All I'm hearing is wowbuck cope THOUGH, they're considered twins for a reason
XIV is a WoW clone and therefore, WoW has shit combat too
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>>728304412
Bro that's Yaana and I think she was given to us in the Arcadion storyline as an apology
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>>728299635
What color? Mayonnaise?
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>>728322645
>non-sequitur word salad
I accept your cringe concession.
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>>728322373
75 hours
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>>728322471
I just don't believe a word he says anymore after years of nontent from the game.
Look, they promised that I could allow my Alts into Mains home, that was back in 2019 and I'm still waiting.
The chat boxes it took them 13 years to add into the game, a basic feature of any MMO and they expected to be patted on the back for it. Just, I don't believe in the vision anymore man.
So why you ask am I still here? Complete and utter sunk cost fallacy. I'm fucking cooked and know it.
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>>728322779
He's not exactly Todd Howard.
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>>728322645
Wrong. Wow has shit tier animations that get shared among jobs so a survival hunter and ret paladin do the exact same animations it looks and feels terrible.
Also wow doesn't have legacy movement which again makes the game feel terrible to play.
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>>728322702
>>728322870
I'd tell you broken bucks to make your own thread but they die with less than 10 replies KEKAROOOOO!
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>>728322958
You're both circling the drain.
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We better hope the new raid tier is cool because we're gonna be stuck with it for over a fucking year
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>>728317412
I fucking hate that we already had cat people and then they just decided to have more cat people who are more cat than people
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>>728298398
>Wuk won't join the scions
She won't.
I love Wuk Lamat. She is not going to join the scions because she's got to run a fucking country.
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>>728323117
i should imagine so since the other two raid tiers have been cool
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>>728322958
I guess that would be kind of a dunk if WoW didn't have literally millions more subscribers than XIV does right now.
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>>728304063
>Attractive to WHO?
ME.
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>>728322718
huh i always imagined in my head that the preliminary patches come out like a few hours before maint
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>>728323234
oh yeah what was that newest bullshit sub count based entirely on vibes, like, 9 million?
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>>728300401
Speen is literally the perfect woman. I will not elaborate.
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>>728323117
Not really there's new extremes, criterion, ultimate, and forked tower on the way
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>>728322838
He's not, but he definitely plays both sides of the 'sympathic player' "Hey guys I'm one of you!" while also, in reality is the corporate Japanese business man using kpi, data, retention metrics instead of creativity to make decisions on the game.
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>>728323297
Both games sub counts are based on "vibes" but one is so far in front of the other that it doesn't matter anymore.
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>>728323535
>using kpi, data, retention metrics instead of creativity to make decisions on the game
not anymore guy outright said his game's boring and needs shaken up lol
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>>728323070
Ayo! Dis wowbuck seethin'!
>>728323234
>remembuh the millions lost to the wowocaust sub counts!
Copetastic broke buck KEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
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>>728323539
i recall an API dig around shadowlands that said they had 1.5m and falling fast, then some line graph after that from a youtuber that completely bullshitted a 6-7m figure out of nowhere
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>>728323592
I agree it does but I've heard it all before so I'll wait until what they reveal at the fanfests before I get reinvested in the game.
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>>728321859
JP does savage in PF, sounds like a skill issue lil gup
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>>728323802
>I've heard it all before
>yoshida outright saying his game's boring and wants to shake it up
right
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>>728302339
Reminder that they will move on to the hard mode dungeons after this. EVERYTHING WILL BE DUMBED DOWN FOR TRUSTS

GLORY TO SHADOWBRINGERS GREATEST LEGACY, THE GAME BEGINDS AT 5.0.
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>>728323928
why would they touch hard-mode dungeons? all those are completely optional, trusts are to funnel you through MSQ
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>>728323857
He said similar when launching Dawntrail, hence the Yoshi Sleep image that was at Pax West.
>>728323535
He said the game was boring and making him sleep and he was going to shake it up.
That didn't happen.
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>>728323993
the weird thing is adding trusts to optional dungeons before trials
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>>728324147
He said raid design was gonna get looked at during 7.X and job design is to follow in 8.X. Raids ARE different in 7.X, so mission accomplished.
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>>728324250
>Raids ARE different in 7.X, so mission accomplished.
And yet, everyone is quitting in droves, as represented by the luckybancho numbers... hmmm... curious....
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>>728324346
Tokyo drifted into a completely different conversation there
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>>728324407
Either A. the raids aren't actually different and you're just a zoomer that started playing his first MMO 2 expansions ago
or B. the raids did change and it didn't matter, because nobody gives a fuck about raiding except the vocal raidtranny minority.
Which one is it?
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>>728304313
Did he ever voice any male characters? I would be curious if she's actually a Decent VA when not trying to do the impossible
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>>728324676
*worth
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>>728324676
>>728324768
I accept your concession.
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>>728323993
They touched the optional dungeons in ARR this whole expansion. Halatali, Cutter's Cry, Darkhold, Aurum are not mandatory. The next move is hard mode dungeons.
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>>728324595
>either the opposite of what you said and random insult or exactly what you said and irrelevant off topic point that has nothing to do with what you were talking about
You thought you had something with this didn't you
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>>728306041
It's still possible to salvage North America, such an expansion also solves the sphene stuck as leader issue, she's close enough she can be an active character as mission control back at solution 9 sending you support
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>>728324918
>says "the raids ARE different"
>know this is a tranny cope line to defend DT with subjective slop measures no one cares about
>know that the raids are all the same shit as they always have been
I disproved it instantly. I know you're mad about how quickly you got BTFO but you can close the thread if you're that embarrassed.
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>>728325084
The raids are different. Not enough in my personal opinion but I don't know what the original guy thinks. It doesn't seem to have made subscriber numbers go up but that wasn't part of the original comment so it's irrelevant.
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>>728324595
nta its B
But you added the
> it didn't matter, because nobody gives a fuck about raiding except the vocal raidtranny minority
because you got called out on lying
>He said the game was boring and making him sleep and he was going to shake it up.That didn't happen.
Stop being a slippery bitch
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>>728323993
Every dungeon they've raped this expansion is optional.
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>>728311248
I actually hate the tummy armour, less so for the player, more that it looks stupid and out of place on NPCs
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>>728324909
Aurum isn't mandatory? Did it used to be?
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>>728312934
Marginally more tolerable but would have even less defenders
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>>728325780
Never. They were all optional. Last mandatory dungeon is Stone Vigil.
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>>728322870
As a Legionbab I was profoundly depressed when I did the trial, got my big dick legendary super artifact wizard stacc, and my attack animation for shooting an ice ball was to wiggle my arms around
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>>728314876
Hiroi could have done it had Yoshi not so horribly constrained him.
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Wuk Lamat might be the single most destructive character in vidya history. To take a 10 year old game from beloved to despised overnight is quite the accomplishment.
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>>728315075
What I really should be farming is alchemist XP to hit level 100 so I can at least make something of the new mahout shoujo gear
I don't think I even need to make them HQ to turn a profit on glamour for this
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>>728326425
>making money in a game where money is worthless because there's nothing to buy
I don't understand you people.

And yes, by "you people," I mean niggers.
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>>728326304
I hate her so much I can't even stand it

But she's just a symptom of the overall terrible writing. My favorite part was when we went to go fight Valigarmanda the racist giants who were trying to stop us suddenly got attacked by a random bird stirred up by Valigarmanda ENTIRELY so Wuk could save one of them so we could pass by without fighting?

Dawntrail is a spherical story. All the corners got sanded off
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>>728326605
I would much rather money be worthless in a game and autistic "money go up" players still get their kicks than play a game where I need money again

Fucking WoW I felt like I was always out of money and had to be doing some sort of side hustle to avoid being unable to afford enchantments and shit
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>>728326670
I genuinely want to genocide every single person in Tural and I don't even think doing so would be immoral. If the point of DT was to make me feel like a 16th century European then it succeeded. Kill these savages.
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>>728326670
I hate even looking at that fucking thing, such an ugly design.
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When do I sell materia to make the most money
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>>728326852
Tural feels smaller than Eorzea and every single culture is a cartoon

>>728326926
She's actively unpleasant to look at. I don't like furries to begin with but there's something wrong with her face. She's somehow even worse in the prerendered DT opening
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>>728316832
Not him but I want that mentor Roulette, slow going though because materia is such a party finder DC
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>>728305401
Arr relic and endwalker relic
I can't focus on one thing at a time
I finished endwalker relic last night so I might move on to ARR and Heavansward
I've done one book in ARR, reading having to do the 2 newly ruined dungeons
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>>728327408
>reading
*Dreading
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>>728326852
I wanted to teach Koana that he should replace his lack of consideration for his people's existing culture with outright contempt.

I saw a video recently about how Dawntrial's story of someone who doesn't actually know their people growing to understand them fits Koana far better. It's actually pretty funny because Koana has a past and was doing things whereas Wuk basically acts like she popped into existence 10 minutes before Dawntrail for all the actual history she has and suddenly some people just sort of remember her having existed the whole time
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>>728327161
>Tural feels smaller than Eorzea and every single culture is a cartoon
It does. I can't believe they wasted half the planet on such a worthless expansion. What's worse is they can't EVER go back there because everyone hates DT so much everyone will nope the fuck out if they ever try to do anything there again. They wasted half the planet's landmass on what amounts to 4.5 zones filled with the mentally retarded.
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>>728326605
The average players doesn't have multiple shell FCs to abuse submarines, actually. Most make money through crafting pr selling rare drops from content
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>>728327161
There's nothing attractive about her design.
Ugly face that is too cat like with none of the cuteness of a Miqote.
Shoulders more broad than male NPCs.
She's hairy.
Long none cute nails that are black, look disgusting.
Axe is bone and looks unsophisticated and boring.
Her outfit is completely at odds with her character.
It's saying that she's a tribal, while the story of her character is she's a Princess who has been sheltered within the Tural Palace, because she knows fuck all about the people and places you visit in Dawntrial which says she was a sheltered, spoiled little cunt.
So her outfit because of above smacks of fake stolen value, like a fat American beaner wearing a Marine outfit to get a discount at Chipotle.
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>>728327481
It's actually crazy how much it feels like Wuk is just completely ignorant of everything in her country (that she becomes the dictator of three days later)
She has never traveled further than the fucking taco stand
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>>728327161
How many times will I see this screencap in my life
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>>728327671
The point is that money has no use in xiv. There is nothing to buy.
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>>728304629
Wuk acts like a giant retarded child, this should be a crime
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>>728327750
>Zivvy can't conceptualise that new people play through the MSQ in order to reach Endgame and have to experience that scene.
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>>728327491
I have no fucking idea why they even bothered including Xak Tural in the expansion. It's not part of the trial. Apparently Galool Jaja never went there during his quest to unite the continents. We spend 10 minutes there before going to the planeshifted remnants of another shard.

Fucking IN THE GAME THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE IS VIA A FUCKING GIGANTIC BRIDGE THE CONTINENTS AREN'T REALLY CONNECTED BY A MEXICO SO WHY BOTHER NUKING ANOTHER ENTIRE CONTINENT WITH YOUR SHITTASS STORY?!
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>>728297620
I can’t wait for the dialog options to be
>Be nice to Wuk Lumat
>Be super nice to Wuk Lumat
Because god forbid they give us the ability to tell her she’s a fuck head and a failure
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>>728327728
Hiring a transwoman to play the most mannish female character in the entire history of FFXIV is...a choice
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>>728327481
Koana is so fucking dry though. Wuk is obnoxious but Koana just...exists. The only semi-compelling one was Zural-ja but he was just complete missed potential
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WHERE'S THE SQUADRON CONTENT
I WANT MY SQUADRON
I HATE TRUSTS
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>>728327956
They let you tell Galool she's a bit of a goober but that was basically it.
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>>728327956
>Because god forbid they give us the ability to tell her she’s a fuck head and a failure
Not good enough anymore. After nearly two years stuck with this cancer only allowing me to beat her to death with her own axe can make things right.
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>More than this thread is about a character that'll have like 20 minutes max of screentime this patch
Why.
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>>728327915
>Zivvy
Nobody says this. It doesn't even make sense
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>>728328008
What the fuck were they thinking man? They had the formula for English dubbing locked down with Brits, why the fuck did they have to change it to Californians?
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>>728327848
Housing items, rare drops, gear/glams, vanity stuff like mounts or minions, food/pots, dyes. Money means you can be lazy or avoid a grind for a reward. There sre plenty of things that people buy on every DC regularly.
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>>728328027
Him not being abandoned by his parents but they died to giant bison or whatever was dumb as fuck
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>>728328138
Weird shitposter thing where you present yourself as an outsider while also having deep, cutting criticisms about the game and are a long-time but very concerned fan (but you're NOT a cultist, let's make ONE THING very clear)
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>>728328135
>ruin the game
>people bitch
It's that shrimple
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Did they add Kaiten back in?
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>>728328027
There's a theory that Koana used to be the main character and Wuk was made up mid development, leaving him like an almost non character. I can't remember if there's a video about it or no, all I remember is my mind being blown
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>>728328135
stunlocking the thread into uselessness
see also: "muh elpis time loop RUINED the GAME"
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>>728328240
This schizobabble also doesn't make sense
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>>728328196
Literally

LITERALLY

Because they hired sensitivity consultants because they were doing shit based on the Americas and they were told they had to get American natives as voice actors. With one massive, ridiculous, exception

I hope they learn their lesson and either stop hiring them or stop basing new ingame cultures on anything specific
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>>728327930
Because if it wasn't a separate land it would be inconvenient for an entirely new empire to just claim the land as theirs
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>>728328346
>get explanation
>schizobabble!
Rope, etc.
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>>728328296
>There's a theory that Koana used to be the main character and Wuk was made up mid development, leaving him like an almost non character.
Sounds like a Youtuber coping honestly. Koana's an overtly stupid choice for main protag and the game itself lays out the reasons for that pretty succinctly, chief among them his people skills never really improve over a challenge that's about teaching those skills alongside other leadership skills.
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>>728328407
Dawntrail had all the corners removed
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>>728328296
There's a youtube video on that theory, I'm not going to link it because will call me the person who made the video, but yeah.
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>>728328196
>why the fuck did they have to change it to Californians?
Too cheap to pay the existing actors and they thought the woke tranny shit woild be enough to shelter them from any and all criticism. In a way it almost worked: to this day there's a bunch of insincere leftists and trannies who will defend Wuk Lamat to the death. Not even they can stand the character, but they're more than happy to lie about it for their social credit score.
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>>728328506
Yes, this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjpxJV6_8Ic
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>>728328584
>Too cheap to pay the existing actors
anon the scions are still voice acted and are still the heckin european game of thrones actors you're used to and championing
you are shouting into the void about things that didn't happen like they are facts and injecting /pol/ memes throughout
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>>728297620
No, I'm going to finish the Arcadian and unsub. I just want to see the end of the wrestling arc.
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>>728328506
You're assuming that Koana would have had the same level of development had he been given Wuk's absurd amount of focus. Though Wuk's screentime is incredibly poorly spent so you might actually be right

>>728328584
A bunch of us were bitching about Wuk in a zone after release and someone responded to it with "You better not be transphobic" and it's like "You were the one who brought it up, nobody was talking about that until you barged in." Wuk's awful VA is not why she's terrible
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Remember that time squeenix thought it would be a good idea to make a Mexican tranny expansion the same year Americans were hype to go vote for the guy who campaigned on kicking out all the Mexicans and b&ing trannies from the military?

Room: read
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>>728328751
I'm assuming Koana's character concept is still the same, not any of the other stuff. Koana's a dead end of character development past what Dawntrail already does in ruining his preconceived notions about his family's intent and Sharlayan hegemony being the way to go, probably why sacrificing himself to the bull gods was so early on in post-patch series since it's a goodbye to the character similarly to the other meet-greet-and-beat-cheeks of Shadowbringers post-patches when everybody but (You) were going to leave the First forever.
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>>728328656
>anon the scions are still voice acted
Yes and they have WAY less lines than previous expansions. VAs get paid by how much time they spend in the booth. If you give them barely any lines they don't cost all that much.
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>>728328584
These people thought that the trooner gooner diversity stuff was going to carry on and be beloved by the populace
They didn't realize that the diversity stuff is only pushed by the system and the people hate it
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>>728328751
Bad voice actor AND a badly written Mary Sue, I haven’t played FF14 in awhile but I’m still mad about the Sppppheeeeeeene fight bullshit
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>>728328918
pedals moving backwards
>er mah gerd they moved to cuckifornians!
>er mah gerd the yuros are still here but they got fewer lines because they didn't wanna pay their higher rates! <-- you are here
>er mah gerd the yuros didn't get lines because they weren't the character focus of this expansion!
>er mah gerd what do you mean they hired british indians for endwalker
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>>728329029
>>er mah gerd they moved to cuckifornians!
>>er mah gerd the yuros are still here but they got fewer lines because they didn't wanna pay their higher rates!
Yes, this is what happened. Y'shtola's original voice lines (all three of them) sounded like they were recorded in a bathroom before they were patched out.
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>>728329141
That's not how VA wages work
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>>728329141
so they wanted to pay y'shtola less, had her telephone in lines, and then had to pay her again for a proper studio recording, and you aren't seeing how this is contradictory
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>>728328296
But that's just a theory
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>>728327930
It really was just two entirely separate stories sloppily being glued together by Wuk Lamat and Zoraal Ja, mostly Zoraal Ja.
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>>728328240
Are you okay? What did you do in Final Fantasy today?
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>>728328135
Wuk shouldn't have any screentime.
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>>728328296
Koana is one of the few not-horrible characters in this expansion, so he probably would have been a better protagonist than Wuk. But no, they just had to shill their shitty new femHroths.
Couldn't they have just made Koana a femHroth but kept it essentially the same Koana otherwise?
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>no gear update for HW or SB
>no mitoq ears or tails
FUCK RABBIT PLAYERS AND FUCK YOSHIP
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>>728329269
Y'shtola was apparently pregnant at the time which apparently kept her from going to a recording studio for an hour
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>>728329269
They only patched it because everyone bitched. If they had cared that disgraceful recording would have never been in the game in the first place.
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Raped and gaped
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>schizo doomies' stories are becoming contradictory and frayed
Love to see it.
Praise lalas.
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>>728329695
What did you do in Final Fantasy today?
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>>728329269
Wonder if Yoshida is ready to deliver in the Y'Shtola + Krile expansion
As an apology for their stormblood "roles"
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>>728329770
It's nice that they actually acknowledge it instead of just-
>>728329850
Oh. It's you.
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>>728329823
ERP'd with several lalas and imagined nutting all over their faces.
Was fuckin gr8 m8.
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>>728326605
Luxury mounts and stuff
Does anybody have a list of all the expensive gil stuff? Not expensive off the market board but expensive off NPCs
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>>728329570
They're updating the HW and SB pvp sets though :)
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>>728329823
I'm starting to get tired of these cheap references.
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>>728330015
Same, I like when the old summon and boss references have their own identity in XIV.
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>>728329927
>faces
>not inside
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>>728330156
Buddy, I like glazing faces. It's not always about impregnation.
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>>728330223
Why didn't you fuck me anon? It's rude to brag like that behind MY back
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>>728330105
This. When its FF thing molded into the world of XIV (basically every pre-EW trial) it fits. Omega was cheap BUT I gave it a slight pass because it's acknowledging multiverse bullshit via the rift, but having THE Fiends, THE Necron it's just groanzone
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You think the thread flooder will kill himself if that proxy ever goes down? There was already some panic when just the b4k archives went down.



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