>E33 isn't indi-ACK
>>728320171is there a re-upload of that trailer draft?
>>728320171I don't like these kinds of games but bless them
They got A-list VAs for free on reddit?No? You mean at some point they got a huge boost to get professional VAs?
>>728320171That's wholesome. I hope they replace those VAs with AI for the next game tho. Paying VAs is a waste of money.
>>728320171-ian
>>728320461their composer was a literal nobody until this game.
>>728320171>10 million dollars, experienced industry insiders>independentThat's like saying Israel and US funded extremist takeover of Syria was "independent". Not to mention the gameplay is mostly ripped off of Persona and FF.It's more strange that it wasn't made by a smaller team for less money in a shorter space of time.
>>728320171This was the fakest award ceremony. Boo!
>>728320171A small indie team with 10 million dollars and a large publisher backing them and famous actors and korean animator outsourcing and ex-Ubisoft devs, but they asked stuff on reddit so it's grassroots! Basically a modern id software success story.
>>728321237I've 15 million dollars in my bank account and I'm 35 yosI just don't spend the money I earn, never had. Why are you pretending like acquiring 10 grand is an impossible task for 33 people?
>>728321473sure you do lol
>>728320171Don't care about reddit33Just happy to see /ourgirl/ finally win the award she should have gotten back in 2023.
>>728321473where did you find 15 million dollars
>>728321473I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're genuinely so fucking stupid that you don't understand the concept of funding and how it works.
>>72832147310 grand???????????????????????????
>>728321628I work. I've been working non-stop for 15 years.
>>728320171>We are seasoned developers who have already worked on AAA games>indieSeriously, you faggots need to put more effort
>>728321946>A 20 years old earning 80k+ a month from day one.Who is your father and how many asses he had to kiss for you?
>>728322115still indie, tranny, it's not a term that means "1-5 basement dwelling incels with no gamedev experience"
>>728322375That math doesn't add up at all. Even if he made 150k a year the whole time and lived with his parents and invested every single cent, he wouldn't have 15 mill unless he bought bitcoin 15 years ago.
>>728322115Yes the same way that every game that multi millionaire Toby Fox makes is Indie
>>728320171What's the point of Reddit casting if you're going to end up hiring Jen English and Charlie Cox?
>>728320171>there is a big black part at the beginning>beginning of the game has a jillion black npcsWhoa.>>728320675wtf is an indi-ACK-ian>>728322723Sorry anon you can't win awards without hiring unionized VAs.
>>728322115Since when did independent mean "zero prior games experience."
>>728322115counterpoint: they were ubisoft employees and so were trained wrong as a joke
>indies doesn't have a publisher beside themself>indies doesn't have millions of budget>indies doesn't mocap made on the other side of the world>indies doesn't have 7 and half minutes long credits with hundreds of name>indies doesn't actor for netflix and the mcu>indies doesn't have billionnaire dadsindies are team of 1-5 peoples working in their home, on their personnal computer, making flash game, rpg-maker/koitkatsu porn game and thing like that, they have little to no budget
his father is one of the richest men in France. He's as Nepobaby as it gets. I could make whatever game I want if I can get a 10 million euro loan from my dad.
>>728323290no, you wouldnt
>>728322954>ubisoft>as a joke Anon, I...
>>728323290France itself also funded the game to spread French culture or some shit.
>gathering your own funds means you're not indie because i arbitrarily put a price cap on itif they weren't beholden to shareholders or publisher demands, they are indie. learn to speak english or stop coping.
>>728320171Hurray! We did it Reddit!EDIT: OMG so many upvotes! I'm heckin famous!EDIT: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!EDIT: I'm a girl now
>>728323290>I could make whatever game I want if I can get a 10 million euro loan from my dad.Honestly this I could mog the fuck out of MarioLuigi 33 with 10 million euro to spend
>>728323709they have a publishers, they aren't indie
>>728323159That's garage, not indie, you fucking pleb.Indie means independent. As in not owned.
>>728320461They revealed how it happened. One of the devs knew a guy in French TV that knew a guy at the BBC who had the phone number of some bong actors and guessed those that would agree to a vidya dub done in half a day. For the French cast they just called people that made anime dub they liked.
>>728323904indie IS garage, cope faggot
>>728324081the only high profile actors are Andy Serkis and Charlie Cox. Andy Serkis would be the hardest one to get and Charlie Cox told the story his agent told him about it and it was only 4 hours of work for easy money. That's why he's so surprised this shit was so good.
>>728324081>One of the devs knew a guy in French TV that knew a guy at the BBC who had the phone number of some bong actors and guessed those that would agree to a vidya dub done in half a day.So, the connected nepobaby used connections to get his industry plant game A list celebs, gotcha.
>>728321609
>>728324325Yep, so? that's still indie.
>>728324081so nepobabies using their connexion, not real indies asking their friends to dub something
it is a pretty kino rags to riches storynot exactly rags but its nice to see indie win and they seem like nice folks
>>728320171Uh oh, this image mindbroke trannies in a BIG way!
>>728324419no, or at this point game freak is indie
>>728321609I'm happy about both. But yes, this was long overdue.
>>728321609you are a fan of one of the gayest and most anti-white games ever concocted, how the fuck are you going to accuse another game of being reddit?
>>728324553gamefreak games are indies yes. They have games on steam, did you know? they are selfpublished
>>728320171just a small loan of 10 million dollars from my dad
>>728321609>/ourgirl/in what way is she ourgirl? She's a fucking feminist.
>>728320461>You mean at some point they got a huge boost to get professional VAs?You mean the type of VAs they got has exactly fuck all to do with a game being indie?
>>728324325>>728324456>not living in total social ostracism with zero contact in related fields? Fake indieIt's basically the equivalent of asking your plumber if he knows a good electrician.
>>728321473-100 izzat
>Guillaume Broche (the CEO of SANDFALL INTERACTIVE, makers of ClairObscur) is the son of Richard Broche, a man who runs 4 different companies, each one making huge profits (talking millions here): MBO+Investments, SCI MAGAR Real Estate, SC BROCHE (Parent company?) and MYRTE INVEST.>The whole family (Richard, Guillaume, Alexandre and Adrien Broche) are associates of MYRTE INVEST (obviously a trustfund or the french equivalent).>I also want to point to the fact that Guillaume Boche started (Yes, started) his career as an assistant creative director at UBISOFT during his internship, which is a very prestigious job for someone with zero experience. No rando could get this kind of internship without having serious contacts.>So we have a powerful family that collectively runs investment companies, and a man with little experience that somehow manages to have enough ressources and talent to fund a near AAA quality game.>Sandfall's 2023 accounts show a debt of 2.7 Millions owed to an unnamed entity, and I doubt Kepler interactive funded them for such a big amount.
>>728320461You think daredevil guy and cgi guy are a-listers?
>>728324419>"the guy is a connected nepobaby farming talents and awards using connected nepobaby kikery">"yeah, so?"you played yourself
>>728324626>E33 is the most pro-white game because uuuuuhhhhhhhh reasons
>>728321609Nigger, average gaming redditor has more game knowledge than you. You know which site pops up in search everytime i search a game-related problem, even if that game is long gone and forgotten? Yeah not your favourite pepejack spamming board thats for sure. Go kys nigger faggot. Also bg3 sucks ass and will never hold a candle to Owlcat games, let alone an artistc masterpiece of Expedition 33. Why am i even talking to you wasting breath, you're probably one of those underage faggots from chinese short attention span app who spam "BG3 BEST GAYM EVA" while having around 5 games in their library.
>>728324389So what are the odds in the future this chick stops being a lesbo?
>>728324626>over 2 years later>little chuddies STILL mindbroken by bg3Keep seething
>>728320171I enjoy how quickly these guys are expending all the goodwill theyve gained over the last year with this "aw shucks small indie company" bullshit
>>728324325You are absolutely seething about this.
>indie? more like>INDIAN
>>728324815ponder the fragrance of the fingers that typed this post
>>728324701if you gave that much to most "devs" on this board, they would pull a kojima and deliver a shitty unfinished overambitious project or just run away with the money
>>728320171I just wish Kojima didn't get humiliated so hard. I feel bad for him bros.
>>728320171isnt that costume racist to the french?
>>728325087thank god dev was reddit amiright
seething faggots will talk about the budget, amount of devs, etc, all day but have nothing to say about the game itselfwhether it cost $5 to make or $500M, it mogged the entire industry and buckbroke half of /v/. it will be discussed for years and be rightfully remembered as the masterpiece it is.feels good to be an E33chad.
A game with 150 devs is not indieIf you want to support a real indie check>>728291505>>728291505
>>728325352Nepobaby hands posted this.
>>728323290trvke
>>728325352this but unironically, a return to form for the jprg genre making countless zoomers seethe because they want indie to be a term reserved for low poly scrimblo platformers is too funy
>>728324772oh right of course let me go ask my national TV industry connections, we all have one of those right
>>728325352I've never seen anyone, for or against the game, talk about the game itself.
>>728324479riches to riches
how come 4chan can't make a goty?
>>728325081You are absolutely seething about this.
>>728325352Nobody is going to remember this shit next year.
>>728322939If the game doesn't look like pixel shit the indie vibes will be off
>>728326026remember when the board was suckng off black myth wukong last year
>>728325476fuck off josh
>>728321473Bro. Start spending that money. Life is it too short to just hoard cash like that one dragon hoarding gold.
>>728320171>posts proof that E33 is redditSo the shills are all from reddit and do it for free?That's way worse than Ubishart paying Indians from Babel Media to shill for them.
>>728325813You don't?
>>728324136but you are the one seething, coping and moaning, dummy.
>>728326216he doesn't have it
>>728320171Trust fund baby game developer.
>>728325813Check out 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. If you're not a complete shut in loser, you can hook up with anyone.
>>728326026kek, the cope continues. i can't wait to gloat some more next year if you haven't killed yourself by then>>728326163dishonest cunt, Wukong never had a single positive thread about it here, it was literally one of the most impossible to discuss games i've ever seen on /v/. E33 was absolutely beloved here when 4chan came back up after the game had been out for a couple days already.t. actually played Wukong on launch
>>728326698nta but E33 was very forced, when a game is super popular it doesn't typically brute force the catalog like that
>>728326803Didn't elden ring completely break the catalog as wellAnd it still gets threads every now and then
>>728326803cope. you lost, anon.
ACKCHEWALLY "indie" really means this made up definition that I pulled out of my ass solely to disqualify this independently developed game that I don't like, because hating popular things is my entire personality.
Still not buying it.
>>728326968Not really? If it did I don't remember it. E33 would have like 15 threads with 4 replies in the catalog it was super weird
>>728326698>E33 was absolutely beloved here when 4chan came back up after the game had been out for a couple days already.Wrong. One of the shills posted links to those threads and they had the same complaints we're making now.
>go on xitter>only trannies and coloreds on estradiol chimping out hard about the game calling it nepotistic and racist>come to /v/ >see thisvery interesting...thats without touching the elephant in the room, "nepobaby" is LGBTHIV+ slang
>>728326638spoken like a true retarded nigger
>>728320171Maybe we need a new category for what defines indie. Because they're all just former Ubisoft employees and had a budget that is beyond what anyone else is doing in this field. Specifically stating AA is almost like a step above most indie because you know more money is involved. What even is indie? the issue is this whole field is poorly defined and we can't decide on whether AA games are that or not.
>>728324815Wow, a forth of their meager funding might have come from a relative? Awful, they should have gotten a bank loan instead!
>>728327556>meager>10 million>'meager'I guess it must have been meager since they spent 9 million paying jeets like you to lick their taint in defense
>>728320171imagine celebrating nepobaby reddit game
>>728327532I'm fine with them being called indie because they're an independent company with no obligations to any major studio or publicly traded company. Kepler itself is just a bunch of indie companies in a trenchcoat who came together to group-fund publishing costs and help other indie studios. I'll quibble over specifics like them winning best debut game when they're all former Ubisoft employees or three VAs being nominated for best actor because that by definition means two of them weren't even the best in their own game. But they are independent by any real definition.The problem with peoples' ideas of what it "should" mean is half the relative youth of video games as a medium (the definitions of "indie film" and "indie music" have been codified for over a century) and half that we're at a level of accessible game dev tech that indie companies can put out something like E33, instead of the same fake retro pixel art or simplistic 2D vector graphics.
>>728324419It's about as indie as an indie band who's lead singer's dad is a multimillionaire banker
>>728327532>they're all just former Ubisoft employees2 former ubisoft employees
>>728324081It was Kepler that got Charlie Cox and Andy Serkis
>>728320171>AA game>Indiekek
>>728327532The indie spirit wouldn't even have a "budget" because it would be two friends working in a garage
>>728320171>They themselves are calling it AA>Is somehow indie
>>728323904>As in not ownedthey're owned by the chinese tho
>>728320171I just don’t like turned based games
If I post my indie game right now, would you buy it?
>>728320171AA isn't indie and they admitted they are AA right there.
>>728328609No
>is the most deserved award in the history of The Game Awards
>>728323290being a nepobaby is good and lindy if you are good at what you do. Egalitarian slander to suggest otherwise.
>>728320171>it's not pixel inspired by earthbound graphics, so it's not indieThat's how retarded people sound.It's just unmedicated contrarianism.
>>728328249The problem is that Indie is a useless umbrella term or catch all phrase that doesn't match people's ideas of what AA vs very small budgeted games looks like. That's why it's poorly defined. Some people think it's team size too, which is why the costs increase.
>>728327123Those You were making them falseflag threads
>>728328676so based
>>72832147315m in the bank at 30 means you’re retired bro. I make 120k a year, and got this job 5 years ago, I would need to work 20 yearsish to get a fraction of that. Why even pretend lmao
>>728323290so?doesn't stop it from being indie you're right, indie is peak posing
>>728325352I just didn't feel like playing it. I clicked on this thread on a whim and had no idea people were this assmad over this vidya gaem
>>728320171>Admits they are AA not an indie>Still accepts indie award
>>728328676>>728329025i love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>728325743>a return to form for the jprg genreJRPGs never left form, and if they ever did, it wouldn't be French nepobabies with trust funds bringing it back with their mediocre westernized slop.
>>728329217Never been happier for anyone in this industry. What a fucking lucky break. Arguably one of the best OSTs in RPG history.
>>728324815>>728329305So how many years do you plan to seethe over this lol
based
>>728329374>lucky break>tons of connections to the industryYes goys. You can easily make your own beloved indie GOTY, by simply raising $10 million.
>>728329507Kek, what an attention whore. If you aren't hooked from the soundtrack and cold opening you're a soulless freak who doesn't understand kino. Game had me by the balls the entire time. What an incredible experience. Thank God I'm not a furry homosexual
>>728329621>thinking that is a large budget in the modern industry Lmao. 90% of the people that worked on this game outside of the vocal talent are literal whos
>>728320171They admit maelle is a child, and then don't dress her lewdly enough. How did this win GOTY?
>>728329657some "people" just aren't capable of grasping kinography and sovl
>>728320171its a nazi game 'Gwer obscur' or 'Expedition 88'
>>728329657I doubt I would like the game that much but the soundtrack is great.
>>728323290Concord must be an awesome game since it cost 600 millions.
>>728328813>it's not paid shills, its f-falseflags!
>>728329657>If you aren't hooked from the soundtrack and cold opening you're not a soulless consumer for not falling for marketing tricksFTFY
>>728329840>you must love this game made by millionaires to pwn the billionairesNo.
>>728329796Are you saying you haven't played it? Because you without question should. I hate turn based RPGs on basic principle. Especially since they're almost always JRPGs with slop writing (Persona is the only one that has ever clicked with me), but Expedition 33 really is a cut above the rest. It's a beautifully mature experience that doesn't treat you like a fucking idiot the entire time. You draw your own conclusions about the story.
>>728329657I thought the opening too melodramatic especially with the Thanos snap I laughed.
>>72832808010 mil is meager for a game nowadays, anon. Sorry to break it to you, but budgets are bigger than they were 20 years ago. 10 is on the lower end of AA.
>>728329883You will literally never be able to shift people's narrative about this game. That time has long since passed. This game will always be board culture and it was board culture before it took home 9 awards. We discussed it daily, we love it, and it's for a reason. This would have been the first place the call this game shit, and it will be the last place to defend it. Fuck off
>>728330040>Thanos snapSomething that you literally know will happen, are told will happen, and prepare to have happen. A little different than a capeslop gotcha moment. The game was advertised as such. Regardless it's irrelevant because they isn't even what is really going on. The actual narrative is a far more simple story of grief which is why it's a masterpiece.
>>728330069>of AA.Yeah, AANot indieIf it goes over 1 mil (crowdfunded) at most it's starting to leave indie territory
>>728330106>"we"AHAHAHAHAHAH>"WE"HAAHAHA'You' shills will stop defending it when you're assigned to your next industry plant game, shut up jeetnigger
>>728330106>This game will always be board culture and it was board culture>My game is heckin grassroots, it's not astroturfed at all>This would have been the first place the call this game shitWe did called it shit when we saw the first trailers. Generic turnbased rpg with some french architectural influence that makes retards think it's something more than it actually is.>Fuck offYou redditards must be so bootyblasted you can't get moderators to delete posts here or in the archives.
>>728330249Whether it's indie or not doesn't even matter. That's the bigger picture. AAA studios could constantly deliver top tier experiences if they actually gave a fuck, but they don't. Larian is hardly indie but they still are treated as such because they didn't listen to Big Brother when making their game.
>>728330347>>728330328Nice try. My retort. >inb4 TGAs are rigged and don't matter Steam reviews, and metacritic don't either, right? Lmao
>>728330249Silksong had a multimillion budget, Hades probably did as well. I can't prove the latter but Silksong was under development for most of a decade, labor costs alone capped over 1 mil.
>>728329374same, Alice toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q62CFrDiQ4I
>>728330525What matters is you can't rewrite history. You can pretend this game is grassroots. You can pretend that /v/ loved the game before the awards. But the archives show otherwise. The more you try to pretend the more I believe this game is shilled hard.
>>728330630This is a woman whom I would very much enjoy smooching. Lorien is a lucky man.
>/v/ thinks "indie" means "4 guys in a garage making pixelslop games".
>>728330787same anon, samehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BJPQ1mO9E
>>728330737anyone can cherrypick whatever opinion they want about anything from the archive you dishonest cunt. i was hyped before launch, i preordered the game, i played it the moment it came out and i was in the first threads 10 minutes after /v/ came up and i shitposted in them all day every day that weekthe game was beloved. you lost.
>>728320605>Paying VAs is a waste of money.Correct, let's also hire actors to be in movies for free. Surely they have nothing better to do than volunteer their time!
>>728331041>one faggot sucking corporate cock means the game is beloved.Moving goalposts. You're a soulless bugman consumer and/or a pathetic shill.
>>728330621>Silksong was under development for most of a decadeand their budget game from their first game, made by two people, so they're still indie.E33's budget game from nepobaby investment>>728330416>Whether it's indie or not doesn't even matter.You might want to read the OP before you backpedal this hard
>>728331206cope all you'd like, tranny, i know the truth because i was there. you lost
>>728320171That pit looks very sniffable i love him
>>728331206He's indian. That's why the current shill line is to call everyone *else* indian, it's pure projection. And deep down indians know the greatest insult of all is to be compared to shiteating dalits like themselves.
>>728329425The exact same number of years you plan to cope over any criticism of this shlock.
>>728322939Someone decided that Indie and Amateur meant the same shit in the world of art, for no actual reasonIndies just are developers that don't work under "big", recognized studios, whatever that means is up to youLike, dunno if I'd consider the Hades guys as Indies at this point mostly due to their portfolio and reputation leading them out of the indie bubble, small can eventually become big
>>728331041>getting hyped just off of trailers>openly admitting to preordering a gameOh nononoononono.
>>728320171Correct.>$10million budget>34 developers + hundreds from outsourcing>published by keplerNot indie.
>>728321946>work 15 years>make 15 million dollarsYeah and my cock's made of solid gold
>>728331295>i know the truth because i was thereLink to some of your posts when the game was released then or face minus 10milllion IZZAT
>>728323631I mean, that's just normal soft power strats of funding art to improve the nation's imageMexico used to do it with animated movies, as an example
>>728331516>Indie is pixelslop done by a single guy with no publisher.
>>728331569This you?https://youtu.be/lpVONZuPypY?si=_bSHoSCz6JjmdEPl&t=205
>>728320171well here's the thing, indie can mean anything or nothing. to your average person though sandfall doesn't pass the smell test as an indie studio, esp after the massive marketing push the game received at launch and big league AA publisher.if the game awards want any credibility going forward they need to iron out their definitions and curate their voting jury a bit more carefully (they need to clean up their genre definitions while they're at it, the "action," "action adventure" etc awards are muddy and meaningless distinctions)
>>728331659CDPR is an independent game studio. CP2077 is indie.
If being indie has to do with size and not terminology, at what specific numbers does a game cease to be indie?
>>728331659Yes that would be indie
>>728331895BG3 is indie. CP2077 is indie.
>>728331956Answer the question.At what numbers does it stop being indie.
>hollow knight and silksongMade by 3 people. Only backing through crowd funding, only getting AU$50k. Slop 33 isn't indie.
>>728332036A game made by a team of nearly 40 in-house developers can never be indie.
>>728320924It doesn't really mean anything nowadays, there's tons of a talented musicians online who just get no recognition. Making good music is not a rarity.
>>728330040I agree i genuinely disliked Gustavo
Why?Care to answer this question? >>728332062
>>728320171The amount of which the browns of /v/ will come to hate on this game is unreal.Everything this game is is the opposite of what everyone on here hates about video games daily for years.>not AAA>better than that, shitting on AAA in interviews>directly inspired by japanese>niche genre>not multiplayer and cattering to esportfags>not plagued by ironic millenial writing>dev team entirely white>music made by a fellow autist >written by a woman who's first thing she said when receiving the award was give thankx to her husband>directed by a guy who posted combo videos of DMC5 on youtube>0 ego>100% passion>fully aware of their cringe shtick of cosplaying french stereotype outfit>no gacha for SEAniggers>no DLC, season pass, battle pass, early access>no gays, no trannies, no DEI, literally nothing>not a remake/remaster>new IP>nothing spent in marketing whatsoever>director revealed in interviews they didn't gave a shit if they game suceeded or not, just wanted to make this game because it was a dream of his>also said in interview he was hoping not to win much in TGA because he dislikes attention At this point what else you people want? You really have to dig through the most hilarious pedantic shit like "using UE5 assets" or "actually the guy's dad is a billionaire" to discredit this game in any way possible?I've seen retards claim this game was funded by french government and received millions even though you can see their only 3 supports at the bottom of their website and the one affiliated with the government being CNC only gives a maximum of 16k€ per company which you could know with one fucking web search: https://www.cnc.fr/professionnels/aides-et-financements/jeu-video/fonds-daide-au-jeu-video-fajv_191468
The metldowns over E33 winning goty haven't been disappointing.
>>728332092You still haven't answered the question.At what point does it stop being indie?
Indie is a bunch of guys making a game in their spare time, while working full time to make ends meet. Their goal is to make a good enough game to become full time devs, this can also include crowdsourcing after putting out a demo or early access.
>>728320171>citing redditthis board really is just /v/eddit now huh?
>>728332236It wasn't indie to begin with.
>>728332174the lack of melanin in the fingers belonging to the individual that typed this post is palpable
>>728323631Oh, so that's who bought all the awards last nightIt all makes sense now
I like the game but calling it indie is funny
>>728332174>just wanted to make this game because it was a dream of hisWhy is his dream game so mediocre? He should have just made a movie if he wanted to tell a stupid story like Kojima wants to do.
>>728320171It’s indie. Everyone calls it indie. It won indie awards. Move on.
>>728332342And it only cost them 16k€ per journo-company >>728332174
Very white.
>>728332402There's actually a movie in the works. Production unironically started before the game even released.>>728332332>retard shill calls his fellow shill brownYou guys need to get better coordinated. KEK.
>>728324815God damn this dev is fraudulent as fuck and the best part is that game journos and /v/ are propping this up as the "feel good indie story" kek
>>728332332Ben Starr has that closeted homosexual phenotype
>>728324815You think he cares about you poors
>>728330621>Silksong had a multimillion budget.Based on what?
>>728324969Hetero is the only sexuality that people easily abandon.
>>728332470
>>728320461"professional VAs"think about what you just said
>>728332871Based on me making shit up and assuming they spent all the money they made on the first game to make silksong.
>>728332871Based on the 15 million copies HK sold retard.>BU-BUT AKTSUALLY THEIR SALES CANNOT BE COUNTED WITHIN THEIR BUDGET BECAUSE IT A SEPARATED INCOME AND-The 3 devs at team cherry are all millionaires and have invested those millions into Silksong wether you like it or not. In fact being indie confirms the fact not a single higher up could have stolen those millions they made from sales.
>>728332989lol you nailed it
>>728320171>AA>indie???
>>728333215>samefaggingexpected from pajeets lmao
>>728323290Why is it everytime this is brought up E33ers start frothing at the mouth?
>>728333215Holy shit I did >>728333138AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>728333378They're trumpanzees that also get mad when you mention Trump's dad loaned him a quadrillion dollars.
>>728327532>Maybe we need a new category for what defines indieWe don't though, they only got away with it because of bribery (I am asserting without any evidence). Keighly or whoever gives a fuck didn't get tricked, they know.
I'm highly amused that triple A devs are sending their """viral marketing""" shills to rage against E33d dominating their corposlop at the awards. Doubly amused that /v/irgin corpo cock suckers are also mad their favorite corporation's game lost to E33.
If jews aren't involved, it's indie. Simple as.Sandfall is Jewish and therefore not indie.
>>728325352>it mogged the entire industryit mogged the modern gaming industryFTFY
>>728333673And yet the entire sandfall team are white are asian. Really not reflecting the modern demographics of France. Quite disappointing.
>>728333380Damn still samefagging, must be boring from the slums of Mumbai.
>>728333759>((white))>>728333516Keep making shit up and moving goalposts because you're too much of a midwit to make valid arguments.
>>728333934Sorry your favorite corporation's slop lost to an indie dev. I know it hurts, but your favorite corpo's yearly release might win next year champ! Keep sucking their cock on /v/ for free in the meantime!
not a jrpg don't care about your unreal engine realism slop
>>728334046I honestly hope more people will now play E33 after winning those awards.It's been hilarious for me to read on social media people saying they didn't even know it existed, and other people like me saying it's an okay 7/10 game that's nothing special.
>>728332174>>728332332saar if you do not like the plant game you are poopman like me SAAR
>>728333934A antiE33fag talking about valid arguments lmao, lets list yours>game isn't indie because kepler gave the studio 120 million (no proof)>game isn't indie because they have a publisher (cuphead won indie despite being published by microsoft)>they used AI texture placeholders on a lamp pole (replaced a day later)>they used unreal engine 5 (making a game engine costs seven times their budget at least)>they reused assets (proving they are broke and indie)>it's not an innovative jrpg (90% of jrpgs are the same dogshit formula since 2004 at least)>parrying is slop (except when sekiro or devil may cry do it)>there's one black guy in the intro (kekaroo)And last but not least>french are brown/jews>the game is shit because I said soDamn you really convinced many people, no wonder the game won 9 awards and will be the most awarded game at TGA ever. I mean you probably think the french bought the award as well but if you can buy the awards just like that, why didn't the multimillionaires devs of hollow knight haven't done it?
>>728333759>And yet the entire sandfall team are whiteStudio founder is jewish
>>728320171Beautiful
>>72833449310 million is not an idie, AAA megacorp just spends 100 million and pockets 90% of that to their pocket, because making too much profit on paper costs them more tax
>>728332438>Move onIndie is a stupid buzzword terminology that should have been dealt with a long time ago. Now people are putting the pieces together that AA is not indie and it never was. We didn't have a term for it back in the early 2000s but we all know what the general idea of what it was.
>>728334493>A antiE33fag talking about valid arguments lmao, lets list yoursYes those are all valid arguments.>game isn't indie because they have a publisher (cuphead won indie despite being published by microsoft)Cup Head devs had to sell a house to even get started on development before they got Microshart money.>they used AI texture placeholders on a lamp pole (replaced a day later)>they reused assets (proving they are broke and indie)Proving they were too lazy to focus on an art direction. Cup Head devs stuck to theirs.>the game is MEDIOCRE because I said soAnd the game is a masterpiece because you say so?
>>728334964suck more corpo cock faggot LMAO
>>728335058Not an argument. Apparently Sandfall Interactive isn't a corporation, so it's fine for you to suck their cock.
>>728334493Hahaha. Shills literally have to keep a list of arguments that they might face on /v/. Too bad their managers are too stupid to give them a list of counter-arguments besides >muh awards>ur brown
>>728320171>isn't indiecorrect>it's not a china astroturAAACK
>>728335058Literally what you're doing
>>728334493>why didn't the multimillionaires devs of hollow knight haven't done it?Because their first game won awards without having to buy them, so they felt like they didn't need to this time?
>>728335354Just loon for troonqueen jennifer english. and you will find a chinese paper trail
If this is indie, then Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate, Any Bethesda game are indie too.
>Dude I have MILLONS of dollars>I have experience working as the best of the best, with the best of the best>A company that self proclaims to make AAAA games>I can hire theater actors >I can hire an entire orchestra>And yes, I am indie TEEHEEWe already heard this lie from gamefreak
>>728331249>you didn't use money that i approve of so you aren't indie
>>728325813Everyone knows somebody who knows somebody. If i wanted to, i could get a meeting with a famous mexican actor, because a friend of a friend of a friend knows him. It happens if you aren't holled up in your room all day.
>>728335863If I made millions of dollars from making my wife do Only Fans and then putting that money to make a /weg/ that outperforms Summertime Saga, then yes I'm indie.If used my dad's connections to get funding, then no I'm not indie.
>>728336102No you can't, because that actor will tell you 'fuck off retard I'm busy'You'd know this if you lived in reality. KNOWING someone doesn't mean they will give you their time for anything important or do you a favour, to pretend otherwise is shit only terminally online argument addicts like yourself would say.
Game made with passion by fully white studio with one asian female writer make brown izzat chassing israeli worshiping posters seeth non-stop.Sorry but your shithole will never create anything half as good, yet alone anything that could be considered art by anyone above the mental age of a toddler. So learn to cope in silence.
>>728336173If the dad is so rich then why bother with seeking investments dumbass, just ask the dad for money which as a nepobaby would have been instantly granted to him
>>728336416>poorfag doesn't understand that the rich have almost all their money tied up in assets to avoid taxes>when they invest capital they go thru loopholes to avoid even more taxesNow I understand why some of you shills actually believe it's an indie game.
>>728336387Dumb faggot.
>Because their first game won awardsBAHAHAHAHAH>tga 2017>best indie cuphead>best ost Nier automata>best artistic direction cuphead>best debuting indie cuphead>goty botwWhat did Hollow knight even won, the PC gamer awards?HK wasn't even nominated for best indie once again hammering the fact HK is a zoomers psyop and only acclaimed because it's babies first metroidvania and was released during Dark Souls heydays and only got attention because of its shallow difficulty.Silksong being no better, the most astroturfed game in existence even more than HL3 with fabricated meme hype by twitternigs and even paid artists to draw porn of Hornet.
fake indie game, who would've thought
>>728336535>no argumentI accept your concession
>>728336401>Studio is Jewish>calls anti-E33 anons Israeli worshippers>>728336617HK is beloved and still talked about almost a decade later. HK has better r34 and I'm not even a bugger.
>>728324479Fucking Sumarian jokes
>that fake Mr. Beast skinwalker smile
>>728336749>HK is beloved and still talked about almost a decade laterBecause of an astroturfing campaign operated by shills on twitter talking about the game for every conference even when totally unrelated for 3 years just to push the meme of "Silksong never releasing".Magnificent game talked about a decade later which reached its all time peak on steam last september which was 50 times its peak at release.HK started becoming relevant this year.
>>728321473you're jewish
NOOOO IT'S NOT A REAL INDIE GAME IF IT WASN'T MADE BY A SMALL TEAM OF MENTALLY ILL TRANNIES OVER DISCORD WITH FUNDING FROM PATREON WITH A TEN YEAR ROADMAP TO LAUNCH!!!!!
>>728336975>Magnificent game talked about a decade later which reached its all time peak on steam last september which was 50 times its peak at release.>HK started becoming relevant this year.Sounds like good word of mouth, and well deserved popularity.
>>728336975The projection from you indian shills is so painfully obvious and boring. Incapable of getting creative, they just accuse you of doing what they are.
OMG IT IS AN INDIE GAMEEVEN THOUGH THEY ARE MILLIONAIRS AND HAVE WORKED IN THE INDURSTY MORE YEARS THEN MOST ANONS HAVE BEEN ALIVE THEY ARE VERY VERY SMALL AND UNDERDOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>728324136Why don't you just admit your a seething Reddit fag? Because they're all sucking the same teet.
>>728324136>indie IS garage, cope faggotAnon if indie is garage then every single shitty VN game is indie by your own definition
>>728337089>Sounds like good word of mouth, and well deserved popularitySounds like the most artificial success ever conceived for a video game. HK hitting all time record players 2 days before silksong will be forever the most embarassing moment in indie game history. No one ever gave a shit about those shitty metroidvania for fromsoft autists before and just because of a meme campaign, all zoomers of planet earth FOMOed like retard to play a game they knew nothing about because SILKSONG WAS RELEASING AND I HAVE TO PLAY THE METROIDSLOP BECAUSE IT WAS SO HYPED!I wonder what percentage of silksong players just dived into the game without ever touching HK before, probably 80% according to steamcharts.
>>728320171>we are seasoned devs that already worked on AAA games So nepotism. Cool. They got taken more seriously than other indie devs that didn't have mommy or daddy get them a AAA dev job.
>>728337373I think it was the first gaming job for everybody on the sandfall but the ceo and coo.>sourcelinkedin, not even hard to check.
>>728337778>ex ubisoft>first gaming gigOkay were they interns at ubisoft and just brag about it like piratesoftware brags about working at blizzard
>>728324815>literally just mad at wealthy people for existing/v/ really is just reddit but with more racism.
>>728320924>sounds like fucking shit random noiseYeah you can tell.
>>728329507HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY VIRTUAL BOYFRIEND SAID WHATFUCKING SHIT MANWOW
>>728323904there is no difference between being owned by the Chinese and the Chinese giving you 120 million and breaking your legs if the investment doesn't pay off
genuinely, any game made by more than ten people and with any kind of connection beyond youtube tutorials and with any kind of funding beyond paying for food, shelter, electricity and the costs of the software used >not using pirated softwareshould be disqualified from being indie.piratesoftware is more of an indiedev than these peoplebalatro, cave story, minecraft, and megabonk are the only indie games
>>728329657I tried but god damn it sucks complete ass and basically you're all fucking faggots. Basically you all saw those ugly 3d mocapped models and gooned yourself into a fever dream. Same thing with BG3.
>>728337598>I HAVE TO PLAY THE METROIDSLOP BECAUSE IT WAS SO HYPED!The hype was organic and grassroots?>FOMOed like retard to play a game they knew nothing aboutThey learned about Silksong by reading reviews of the first game and talking to people who played the first game, which is much better than fake hype from watching a few trailers.>I wonder what percentage of silksong players just dived into the game without ever touching HK before, probably 80% according to steamcharts.And tons of people played BOTW and TOTK without ever touching the 2D games.>HK hitting all time record players 2 days before silksongSo some of the people interested in silksong wanted to play the first game so they don't miss references or whatever. How's this a bad thing?
>>728323290I seriously doubt any random idea guy faggot on /v/ is going to make goty let alone a good game even with infinite money unless you happen to have project management skills that you somehow weren't making money with before.
>>728337889>intern>creative director"""intern"""
>>728338530Exactly. It aint fucking indie.
>>728337598>shitty metroidvania for fromsoft autistsYeah they made a metroidvania that appeals to fromsoft autists that like being challenged and punished for fucking up.E33 is a shitty turn-based movie game with parry mechanics for millennials that love subversive stories.>>728338530IIRC it was like assistant to the creative director.
>>728338689nigga you haven't played any of the games you're talking about kill yourself
>>728323631Most 1st world countries have programs like that. You can apply for grants in Canada to get funding for video game dev stuff.
>>728320171Its amazing how twittards have a better understanding of indie than 4jeets
>>728336940i dont know why rich people are so detached and creepyhes probably murdered people and had nothing but prostitutes growing up
>>728332036>>728331895It depends if I like the game or not. Why don't you fags get it?
>>728323631wait until you learn about the state of Georgia
>>728325352It's really not. If it was in the running a few years ago it would've been mogged by GoW
Team Cherry had millions of dollars from Hollow Knight and were now seasoned video games devs in the industry. Was Silksong indie? You guys are fucking dumb.
>>728337969>and still beat out silkshit OOF.. that's got to hurt
>>728338854Not an argument. You can't even admit the story falls off cliff in the third act. So you probably think the twist was a masterpiece of subversion.>>728338867The US does too. It's called DARPA, but instead of spreading Amercan culture it's to fund mindcontrol/indoctrination.>>728339002I think that's tax breaks and not actual funding.
>>728339141They lost to Wuthering Waves in the only category that actually matters. Juniors need to spend more time cultivating.
>>728339078>seasoned video games devsNo they werent. After maybe another game I would say they are though and no longer indie after that, yes. They would be an established home brand fucking name. They basically are already but their lack of experience I would say still makes them indie. Goddamn you dont call fucking James Cameron an indie film maker just because he funds everything now do you dumb fuck
I don't hate E33, thought it was a good 8.5/10 but if I hadn't played the game and my only exposure to it was the fans whose only comments were "IT'S JUST SO GOOD IT'S LIKE IF VIDEO GAMES WEREN'T JUST STOMPING ON GOOMBAS" I would've ignored it.
>>728339334botting category?
>Video games in such a dire state the general public is fellating a 7/10 game that would have just been considered "Pretty good" a decade or two ago
Americans are so upset. Don't worry, your cheeto pedophile president will surely drain the swamp any day now
>>728339491>Americans out of nowhere
>normie support for this game evaporated overnight so quickly that even the eceleb grifters that were jerking it off for months are saying it shouldn't have gotten so many awards Let this be a lesson to these chink businesses that even the biggest retard will grow wise to something the second they feel like you're shoving it down their throat
>>728329217Cutest couple
>>728339379Listen to your senior, you should have spent more time cultivating bots instead of shilling on a mongolian underwater basket weaving board.>>728339369So you're saying that if 4chan wasn't down when E33 released, it would have been received poorly and sold like shit? Could 4chan really be this powerful? I think all publishers should learn a lesson from this and double down on their shill campaigns. Don't just pay your shills for a month. Pay them to shill for months before and months after release.
>>728339491mindbroken. ameriGODS love E33
>>728320171How come each passing year, the game awards become more of a clown show?
>>728329507to be fair, it took me 25 minutes to like the game.furries got their dopamine receptors fried so probably couldnt last that long.
>>728330010>I hate turn based RPGs on basic principle. Especially since they're almost always JRPGs with slop writingI hold this opinion as well and it kept me from the game for a while after it came out but I figured I try it and it was worth
>fucks up your game ending
>>728339491>doom guy got a jew>samus got a chud>chief got a jeetis there some sort of prank going on here
>>728332332>gustave's VA couldn't attend because of his egowhat a fucking faggot
>>728324969I mean she's probably bisexual but prefers women or she got molested/raped at some point
>>728338178keep playing kid
>>728329217yeah they knocked the soundtrack out of the parkthe soundtrack in this game and Nier:Automata elevated both to another level
>>728330010>>728339902Wow very organic and grassroots replies. I too will now try out this game and see if it's worth it. I like that it is an indie passion project made by a white studio. Gaming is truly healing.
>>728324969100% if she lives long enough
>>728324826a-listers in video games, unless you're Kojiumbo with a fuck you budget to hire hollywood actors
>>728338178>through spring meadows in 30 minutescheat engine or skipping cutscenes? zoomer faggot
>>728340068I pirated it if it makes you feel any better bro
E33 did not disappoint is the amount of seethe posting it would generate after it GOTY sweepThis thread is the funniest fucking shit
>>728324826You mean the guy who cucked stephen hawking and gollum?>>728338178>Defeat a boss without taking any damage>52.8% of players have this achievementSo parrying/dodging really is that easy huh. Team Cherry was correct in calling the game accessible.
>>728340202Did you notice that the seething always happens when EU and America are asleep? SEAturds are not even hiding it anymore, they’re just mad that their furry AI indie game sold 2 copies
>>728321609She's a shit va
The people who are mad over e33 winning indie are the same people who get mad that pluto is not a planet anymore
>>728329621You fucking idiot, he's talking about the composer getting a lucky break.
>>728340364Some committee of assholes agreed that E33 is an indie and I disagree. Hand me a pingpong ball.
>>728320171The story in this game made no sense. I watched a yputube video explaining the story after beating the game and I still don't get it
>>728320171imagine if he had asked 4chan instead
>>728320171>Devs themselves said right there in the post it is a AA game>Geoff is a retard and let it compete against real indie games >Now we have to pretend it is an indie game
>>728320171Half life 2 is indie.
>>728340456You're not suppose to watch videos explaining things.You're only allowed to watch videos telling you how to feel.Feeling is easy. Thinking is hard. Stop thinking and consume things we tell you will make you feel good.
>>728340456>can't keep up with the slowest story ever
>>728339156>admits he hasn't played the games hes talking about>immediately starts talking about polshitThis board is fucking doomed
>>728320171
this is the same award show that allowed DLC to be nominated just last year, and a 2024 "indie" game to compete this year
>>728324081Who needs to cope?lmao.>>728324815Talented AND with a rich dad? WAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>728340456Okay. Two "moons" crashed on Earth and that wasn't meant to happen. The people of Lumiere were created by Lillith who came on the white moon and the painters were created by Adam who came on the black moon. There was a failsafe built in to stop one or the other and the painters were stopped. However the people undid the failsafe by removing the Paintbrush of Longinus to gain the power of the painters, so this freed the painters.The story is pretty much about grief. A kid watching his mom die and a husband so desperate to bring his wife back to life he makes a sexy teenage painted clone of her.
>>728325813My sister has done some freelance work for national TV industry, I bet you too have someone in your life that has done something related to something. Or maybe you're friendless loser with no family, whatever.
>>728340883>doesn't deny loving millennial-sloptier subversive writing>millennial writing encroaches more and more into all forms of media as they take over every industryMedia as a whole is doomed.>>728341050It's like the gaming industry as a whole sucks ass and a mediocre game was allowed to win. They should have brought up old ass games that never won anything and gave them some kind of honorary award like best new peak players in 24 hours award after some streamer decided to play an old ass game.
>>728320171AA isn't Indie, yes.
>>728320171We are Charlie Cox
>>728340556>is retarded*is paid off
>>728338867I think Piranha Bytes survived like that for some time. The guys from Mount and Blade apparently also take money from the Turkish government.
>>728338936>a major publisherokay they need to define the line between minor and major publisher then
>>728327532they are indie the same way jeff bezos bootstrapped his book selling business out of his garage it's all just marketing
My favorite indie company is Valve
>>728325316french are actually just annoying faggots naturallyeveryone hates them except for that one time in the 1930s
>>728340325I mean it's not a reliable metric when you can get the achievement going to an area you overlevel by mistake and one shotting a weak boss or just do it on an easy boss, I'm surprised more people don't have it actually
>>728320926>hollywood interest in your IP before your game studio even released their first gameEverything about this is astroturfed
>>728323904If a third party has ANY thirdparty shareholder by a company in your company, you're owned and not indie. Faggot.
>>728330525>Best art directionthe game is full of ai slop and shit from the unreal engine marketplace>Best narrativeno>debut indie gameit's not indie you faggot, indies doesn't have millions of budget, actor from the mcu and netflix, indies doesn't have a publisher partially owned by a chinese megacorporation, indies doesn't use mocap made on the other side of the world, indies doesn't have 7 and half minute long credit with hundreds of name >best RPGit's not a rpg you fucking retard, it's action adventure game
posting actual games made by small teams of independent developers
>>728342806playtime and arm status?
>>728334493>cuphead won indie despite being published by microsoftthen cuphead wasn't indieindies are those who make their game themself, not publisher, no money from another company, just themself
>>728342806>Best art directionI seriously don't get this, the game is mostly store assets and the "art direction" is just making them float?
>>728337537yes they are, if they don't have a publisher
>>728337537anon making a shitty vn and selling it at the comiket IS what real indies do, not having millions of budget and hundreds of name in the credits
>trust fund nepobaby ebeggingMorally reprehensible
>>728320171>Indie>Has a publisher>Self described AARetard
>>728342883Gayme? Also beyond the citadel was my GOTY this year by far.
>>728338936>A dude make a porn game on rpg maker, in his mom's attic, all by himself, he's a indie>a studio of 30+ peoples+hundreds of other around the world+actor from the mcu and netflix+millions of dollars+published by a company partially owned by a chinese megacorporation is indie too chud
the fact that people won't concede the game isn't indie when it has the same budget as an internally developed Nintendo game or any regular high budget game from like 16 years ago is probably the funniest thing about it
>>728338936Indie =/= independent
>>728343202Agreed. Whenever I point out the budget and manpower of this game completely eclipses 90% of Zelda games people tend to get glassy eyed
>zoomers don't remember when "indie" lost all meaningIt was almost a decade ago now, and you all let it happen
>>728343151Good taste. One of the rare times /v/ shilled an indie game naturally.
>>728321473I have 150 million dollars in my bank account and i'm 20 years old.<reddit space>I also spent 100 bucks every night to fuck your mother but she always insist against taking the money
it's not even tagged as indie on steam lmao
>>728343295>letNMS was pretty universally shat on when it came out
>>728343393Just like the shills refusing to take Sandfalls money thinking they're an indie studio.>>728343476Why would Gaben do this?>>728343635>>728343295When Star Citizen comes out, indie will mean something again.
>>728343006because you didn't play the game
>>728343202>the fact that people won't concede the game isn't indie when it has the same budget as an internally developed Nintendo gamedo you ever listen to what you say
>>728343903anon, pokémon Z-A had a budget of 12-13 millionsshill obscur had a budget of 10-11 millions
The schizophrenic rage that caused E33 is so crazy it's funny. >NO, LOOK, THEY USED MONEY TO MAKE THE GAME, NO INDIE USES MONEY!! >WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT THEY USED VOICE ACTORS?! THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE REEEEEEE >LOOK! LOOK! THEY USE UNREAL ENGINE! NO ONE WOULD USE UNREAL ENGINE! ! EXCEPT FOR AAAA GAME! >THE CREATOR IS A NEPO BABY, EVEN I, WITHOUT EXPERIENCE, TALENT, AND ORGANIZATION, WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE THE GOTY OF THE CENTURY! JUST GIVE ME 6 QUADRILLION DOLLARS!
>>728343903>>728343849>>728344219not an argument. I'd tell you to git gud, but you obviously prefer movie games that require no effort.
>>728344219>stop noticing the billionaire isn't indie!nice reddit tactic of arguing, stop comparing, stop noticing, just listen and believeor you know, google the faggot dev's name and see he's literally a billionaire
>>728337969oof, burger bro can't stomach someone living the american dream somewhere else than Burgerland
>>728344275It's simple, play the game.
>>728344410>Be son of billionaire and pretend your wealth is earned through shilling>American dreamYou got me...
>>728344385>NOOOO, YOU SHOULD NOTICE THAT HE USED 10 MILLION. WITH 10 MILLION YOU CAN MAKE 7 HOCKEY GAMES IN 1987!! WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?!
>>728320171I don't even really care about this discourse at all, E33 was a good game and that's all that really matters desu
>>728320171>10 million budget>Over 400 credited devs>Backed by a multi million dollar publisher>That's funded by multiple billion dollar companiesThese paid shills desperately want you to think this is an indie game.
>>728339949The prank is that you're getting replaced.
Can any frenchies confirm if E33 is a far right game? What is wrong with these people?
every year this autistic shit happensno one can define what indie means anymore, it's especially difficult now that contract work is so pervasive that you can have a small core team and an innumerable number of contract workers who show up and disappear as needed
>>728345026Is sexulizes little girls and girls in general. of course its far right
>>728320171He literally says in the reddit post that they're working on an AA game project so why is this even discussed? Why does the thread exist and why does it have 400 posts?
>>728345026>the joke writes itselfWHAT'S THE JOKE LIBTARD
>>728345026in europe if youre proud of your culture its labeled as fascist adjacent or far right
>>728345094based
>>728345026French here, pure bullshit, I did see some far left retards and publications trying to push that narrative but even the current leading left party never said anything about it despite being extremely vocal when AssCreed Unity released.
>>728345026>No blacks on the team>All the black people in the game get killed within 5 mins.>Represents their fantasy of old Belle Époque Paris.>Far right flock to it as a representation of what France should be without immigrants, like how Americans cry about "make America great again" and cry about the good old days>There was drama from a black dev who didn't get hired there and called them racist cause there are 33 white people.>Guillaume's dad being an old rich white guy.
>>728345026The President of the French Republic congratulated them months ago, and he is anything but far right. It is, after all, a French game that has had worldwide resonance.Don't believe every interpretation of some lunatic.
>>728345579It means (You) and (Me), and the rest of this thread too. It's everything tism-related, from very slight tism forms that allow you to function normally to turbo tisms where you're basically retarded.
>>728345026>thing is well received and lauded>it's far rightit's true, leftists actually just hate beauty, success and all things good
>>728345383I've only heard about the hiring discrimination drama where there was a white guy and a black guy who were submitting resumes, and the black guy got turned away, and the white guy got hired. A black guy accused them of racism.
>>728345026>leader of the far right french political partythat's not marine le pen
>>728343635>NMS was pretty universally shat on when it came outDo you think that has any relevance to this conversation? It was a big-budget sony title that was considered to be an indie, that is the damage that was done to the meaning of that word. It isnt relevant at all how it was recieved
>>728320605actual indian
>>728344521Was actually talking about the once noname Lorien Testard but that works too.
>>728345748>black person doesn't get what they want, cries racismhow is this even newsworthy at this point
>>728329374>One of best ost in rpg history
>>728345223I hate that this is probably the true answerThey're probably mad that debra wilson wasn't cast as maelle
>>728324456>not real indiesIt took you this long to figure out that a $10M+ budget game with 600 contractors wasn't indie?
>>728346012>"If I quote a fact and attach a picture of a laughing person, it will make it not true."
YOU LOST
>>728328356Kepler was also the publisher of 50% of all the game reveals last night, 60% if you include the preshow rapid reveals. Seems like they're just buying their way into everything
>>728329374>one of the best OSTs in RPG history.Play more RPGs you stupid retarded faggot lmao
>>728346160You sound a little mad buddy.
>>728334493Tard Kepler is funded by NetEase at the tune of at the very least 120m in equity contributtion. Sandfall literally has the backing of one of the largest video game company in the world, in what sorld are they indie.
>Gamers argue endlessly over what denotes the line between a AA and AAA game because it apparently matters a lot to them to define this>But they will not say a single word about delineating a line between 1 guy in his basement with $500 in savings and a corporate backed, $10,000,000 project with 30 employees and 500 contract workers when it comes to defining what exactly is and isn't indieIt's odd, honestly.
>>728346153This isn't surprising when you consider 3 things:1) there are a lot of indie/AA studios2) AAA studios take 10 fucking years to make a single game3) AAA companies have been closing studios and laying off staff for years which means fewer games from themCompanies like Sony and Nintendo and Microsoft have almost nothing to show now because of the above factors plus they all released what few games they had within the last 2 years
>>728338936Cs2 is an indie game
>Wants to get back at Ubishit>Manage to make leftards seethe during devlopment>Sweep the awards>Manage to make the rightards seethe afterwardDamn it feels good.Bonne journée mes amis.
>>728324891go back and kill yourself redditfaggot
>>728346140It's funny that as long as you put enough instruments together basedjaks will basedpog no matter the sound that actually comes out. In 5 years no one will remember any of it and they'll just have hoped onto whatever is next astroturfed in front of their face
>>728346601>Manage to make the rightards seethe afterwardare you stupid?
Even though I dont agree about them being indie, because they arent. Im happy they won>Last year a game all about fun wins>this year a game all about lewd winsThings are finally changing.
>>728346973We'll see in 5 years then. For me, it's one of the best OSTs ever and I put it on the same level as my all-time favourite, Chrono Cross.
>>728333673>Undertale isn't indie based retard
>>728320171I don’t care if it’s indie or not I care of it was good and it was and I had funSpacingStop being fags
Why did this game MINDRAPE brown third worlders on /v/?
>>728329425until the end of time probably
>>728323290You can't even make your life worthwhile with your own abilities, you think you can make a good game?lol
>>728323290So that's why all those AAA games with 100+ million budgets are such amazing works of art, now I get it. You literally just pump money into a project and its quality raises.
anything can happen with a billionaire daddy money is never the problem, it's skill and ideology, and the money to hire those of the same ideology I suppose...
>>728344219oh wow this post really makes me feel bad so I think I'll change my opinion so I get be a tool like you
>>728331197what? He said use AI, retard.
>33Freemason symbolismIt's astroturfed
>>728346454Nintendo and Microsoft release games all the time. Pay attention before you spout your retardation.
All this third-world seething was 100% worth giving it the goty. Based jury.
>>728328676this was the worst played botched live guitar solo i've ever seenafter lil wayne
>>728320171Nigger, they end up paying fo a shit tone of outsourcing work. At least 2 major 3D asian companies help them make the game. Is all at the light of the sun, watch this documentary:https://youtu.be/mXLOLgC2V2Q?si=aZNWkbmAI550eQ5PBasically the game was dead on the water until they pay some chink company to actually work on the visuals."INDIE" my ASS.
why do you niggers find all this critical info SO LATE when it's pointless I had already shilled this garbage to friends and now I cant just say hey-- that indie game you loved wasnt actually an indie ga,e it was a 300 million dollar trust fund kid with a billionaire daddy's game
>>728347132Go to kotaku in action and they are seething and if you go to kiwifarms they are seething everywhere besides the designated E33 threadThis game has made every political alignment angry
>>728324815Wait there is a wealthy person who isn't retarded can we have him fund all the games now?
>>728320171The cosplay go hard not gonna lie
>>728324815>No rando could get this kind of internship without having serious contacts.The sad truth is, even a industry veteran wouldn't get this kind of job without choking on some cock.
>>728353984this is the best outcomeAll those politically charged faggots should have a heart attack and make the world a better place
early drafts and demos are always that small even on AAA project. It's in the later part of the development that budget can blow up and it did for E33 as well. These 400+ devs working on it had to be paid my guy.
>>728347218Lewd????
>>728321946So you made $1,000,000 per year every year without spending a dime since you were 20? So what, you left highschool, got an associate's degree and got hired right out of community college at $481 per hour? All while living in the woods and consuming nothing but morning dew and the energy of the universe?
>>728322846>wtf is an indi-ACK-ianindians that get run over by trains
>>728321473>grand>millionI think this poster does not know the difference between 1,000 and 1,000,000.
>>728338936By this definition, why were Wukong and BG3 not both nominated for best Indie games? They were both self-published by independent studios.
>>728354771>All while living in the woods and consuming nothing but morning dew and the energy of the universe?Hey if it works for trad artists it can work for anyone else
>>728327356>>go on xitter>>only trannies and coloreds on estradiol chimping out hard about the game calling it nepotistic and racistYeah this made me buy it.
>check his reddit posts>Anime discussions, DMC 5 videos and gacha slopBased
>>728323290Richard Broche isn't even close to beign one of the richest men in france
>>728320171>AA game>IndieAbsolute retard
>>728354314There weren't 400 devs, if you want to count localization teams, QA testers, orchestras, etc. as devs then AAA games can hit around 4000 devs.
The music of e33 is the most generic faux "epic" orchestral slop I've heard in years. Anyone praising the ost of the game either has no taste or is a shill.
>unironic reddit spacing>trannie reddit opinionHmmmm... I said.. HMMMMMMMMM....!
>>728322663you invest your money and it works for you. if you pay attention to the news on a global scale its easy to gage where to put your money. someone like that anon couldve made a killing during covid and the recent warmongering (arms and steel prices in yuropoor, gas prices etc). just pay attention every now and then and you can get some of the blood money as well
>>728328676That solo sucked.
>>728356883>you invest your money and it works for you.I do and I've done very well investing over the last 17 or so years. That's how I know he's full of shit. Those numbers simply don't add up for "I've been working for 15 years and saving a lot".
>>728320924Every composer needs to catch their first break lil pup you're not saying anything profound
>>728329217are they fucking thoughthis is important for the quality of the game
>>728324081Makes sense. There are actors, even relatively famous ones that won't say no to an easy gig and won't ask for huge amounts of money to do it on a "it's not like I had anything better to do that day" basis. You just have to know which ones those are.
Here comes /biz/rael to brag about their superior investments and wealth (on paper, from a dream)
>>728324456It's called the six degrees of separation. This has nothing to do with nepotism.
>>728325813bro dog, when I first moved into a new town and my car broke down, I asked the tow truck guy what mechanic I should go to and he recommended me a great guy and I recommend him to my friends now too. Word of mouth is very common once you actually start talking to people.
>>728320171>possibly over 10m budget>outsourced help>generative AI use>ex Ubisoft employees with a fulltime job developing the game>literal freemason flexing with the 33 in the name>development probably took over half a decade"Indie"meanwhile in the real world>1-5 guys working on some friendslop, survivors, farm sim or roguelike game>barely any funding, probably works a real job on the side and makes the game as a hobby>selfpublishes if they're smart>takes them a year or three at most to deliver a hit that people actually buy willingly without infinite online astroturfing and glazing from peers>now forced to compete for indie awards with literal millionairesindieknow the difference
>>728324815i like all the cope posts by either shills or teh same retard defending this garbage game. they probably bought all the jurors, as is common with awards shows.
>>728337969too bad none of it is mumble rap, huh?
>>728357380>"I've been working for 15 years and saving a lot".oh yeah, that line was bullshit, but its not impossible. he could have some exec managerial position at some midsize company chain that produces boxes or whatever and still be int he right.
>3rd world browns are too stupid to understand anything about the game>americans are mad the game lacks guns and basketballs
>>728359817And that leaves redditors as the only group enjoying the game.
ledditors are making successful games that win gotys, what did chantards make?
>>728339334>They lost to Wuthering WavesWe've reached the point where gachaniggers are proud of the bots their daddy Tencent rented for them. How profoundly sad.
>>728324389>elden ringgoty>bg3goty>e33gotystarting to think this homo is the secret to winning goty
>>728345026Left, Right..Wings of the same bird
Look at me! I'm so cool for hating popular good things! It's my entire personality on the Internet!
>>728359195Make a separate category for poor people, call it "best poor people game" or some shit
>>728359982diabetes ridden miscegenic amerimutt cant help but project his own national politics upon others
>>728360336Wuthering Waves would have won that like they won this year's people's choice because they gave away free pulls if you voted for them. Gacha players are in the billions especially with China.
>>728359865thats the group hating it the most, after troons
>>728320461they talked about it, outside of random no names people at Kepler said they know some big name and could ask if they have slots avaible, and thats how they got people like Andy Serkins and Charlie Coxstill, it wasnt independent since it had a big publisher, not since they had experienced voice actors
>>728345776>he doesn't know
>>728360572He meant category for poor people as in devs with no money, not players
>>728321473sure buddy
>>728361319Kepler publishes indie games and is made up of indie game devs
>>728320324https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r1kl4QxEtY
Only oldfags remember what Indie games used to be like. The definition has changed dramatically over the past decade, especially as budgets have exploded and these AA titles really have nowhere to put themselves. To me, Indie games are still <15 person teams. They should call themselves something else, because the indie label is misleading and 10M is an insane budget when compared to titles like pic related.
>who have already work(ed) on AAA titlesSo not only are they not indie. They aren't even debut indie. This is Cocoon all over again.
>>728362356>these AA titles really have nowhere to put themselves.AA just needs to come back as a distinct category again rather than the current "AAA" and "Indie" divide that is largely bullshit
>>728320171for the unreal engine kiddies, this is what video game production values used to be and how video games felt like before an obsession with sloppy assets ruined everythinghttps://youtu.be/eyqB7PFOYbc
>>728358954Right, so where's your game with word of mouth hollywood actors?
>what's that game called again?>oh yea I did it during a single session>please, don't credit me for it, give it up for the mocap actors>the other performances were betterGenuinely hilarious how real celebrities mog the fuck out seasoned game VAs without even really caring too much about what they're doing. What a deeply unserious medium. Even a 6/10 book or a 7/10 movie would qualify as a 10/10 video game.
I have to wonder what goes through the brain stem of anybody who thinks this AAA Indie scene predator is a indie game.
