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Capcom are commited to improve performance! Please come back... Please...
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They forgot to optimize the game for fun. Why bother?
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>>728325060
All this tells me that they should have delayed it an entire fucking year. that they thought this shit was ready to ship is unacceptable
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>>728325060
>Game isn't fun
>Runs like shit
>MTX becoming even greedier
>DD2 released unfinished and then completely abandoned
>Pureezu Purei
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Gogmazios will come out next week and I will hunt him a few times for his gear and then drop it for several months.
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i can run it just fine, try making it less boring
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It's too fucking ugly. Just reskin the whole thing and put it on a toggle in the settings.
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Hopefully they update the benchmark too so I can test it first.
I'll still wait for G rank though.
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>>728325060
Ok drop the price to $20 dollarydoos and remove Denuvo and I'll buy it.
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>>728325060
>optimization
Turns out it's just the option to make your game look shittier rather than actual optimizations.
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>>728328497
The benchmark is completely worthless
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>>728325060
Why does capcom need wilds to continue selling? Most games sell for like a month and then sales drop off a cliff.
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>>728325060
JAPS CRACKED THE CODE
120FPS ON 2060 ARE COMING
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Currently playing Wild Hearts. I need to get it out of my system before resetting to come back to TU4.
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>>728329273
Why does the enemy just sit there motionless and let you attack it?
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>>728325060
I played on launch with a 4070 super and ryzen 5600, it was pretty poor but playable. Came back to it a few weeks ago to do all the title update content and while my FPS is still at 40-45 at demanding moments in hunts or in areas with a lot of NPCs/characters, it feels a lot smoother and the resolution doesn't drop as much with the FPS.
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>>728325060
I rarely cared about the performance issues, they just made a shitty game and I don't want to play it.
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>>728329367
He knocked it over & stunned it retard. The same shit that happens in every monster hunter TA ever
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More interested in Stories 3
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>>728329273
>Wild Hearts
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>>728325060
I f3el like ive seen this before. Anyways I'm not buying a new gpu to play the worst monster hunter ever made
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>>728329273
More like Wild Farts
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>>728330231
you called?
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>>728325060
so they're adding this to RE engine...???
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What are the actual major issues with the game currently? I know performance is still a big one but from what I understand the game being braindead easy has been addressed in end/post game updates. Are there any other big issues?
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>>728329918
It stands there for four full seconds before doing one single attack, then it just stands there and lets itself get beat up for another six seconds. THEN it gets knocked over. I don't know what game this is but it kinda seems like it's for babies.
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>>728325060
>540p
>FSR performance
>5% fps gain
Yeah good job you bunch of neurodivergents.
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>>728330231
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>>728325060
Haha This is Just Sad

Send Post
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>>728330506
Yeah it's kinda like every monhun since world. I'm not feeling it teebeeaych.
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>>728330506
>I don't know what game this is
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>>728330506
It's also coming out of rage and is exhausted so attacks slower. That said, it's pretty easy to stagger-lock kemono if your damage is high enough.
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>>728330442
>I know performance is still a big one but from what I understand the game being braindead easy has been addressed in end/post game updates
That didn't address shit
>Game is too easy and boring
>People who played initially got burned, stopped playing, and didn't return for the harder content
>People who might've played later after the hard content was added are put off of playing because they heard how easy and boring 99% of the game is and don't want to go through it
The current design philosophy where the majority of the game is basically filler completely killed it.
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>>728329273
>damage numbers
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>>728329259
The optimization on Pregnata gives me hopes. Maybe they got enlightened.
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I am genuinely shocked that they announced that Gog would be the last monster added to Wilds without announcing 6U.
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>>728331545
you can turn them off
same as in mh
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>>728325060
Gibs base game for free and i guarantee you turd wolders will eait it up like it's the best thing ever.
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>>728329367
The big aoe attacks punish you if you don't parry/dodge in time. If you run away then you don't have time to counter attack, but if you i-frame you get a decent window.
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>>728325060
>still no g-rank
fuck off
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>>728331754
So? Adding G-rank wouldn't make the game not shit.
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>even the optimization patch that was supposed to come with TU4 is getting dripfed
>obvious to everyone that they don't actually know what they're doing and should just rip that band-aid off now instead of waiting months to do it

What a bunch of incompetent retards.
Game is unsalvageable and every time Crapcom makes an announcement regarding the state of it it makes my decision to skip it after that horrible beta justified.

Still waiting for that 11 million milestone.
Fire Tokuda btw. He's a hack that doesn't know what makes a for a good video game.
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>>728330027
Based
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>>728331692
I foresaw this cope
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>>728332238
>stating a fact is cope
what
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sadly I don't have any recordings of myself getting clowned on by Laharback
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>>728332604
How's the performance and any way to make it look sharp? Ive got a 9070XT and 9800X3D. Also - do they plan on releasing the S version for PC?
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>>728332682
>do they plan on releasing the s version
s version is the same game with visuals optimized/downgraded and up to 4 player co op vs 3 player. what would be the point
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>>728325060
No. I paid $70 for it and fucking hated it.
Gonna continue playing FU and GU.
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>>728325060
I'm not sure there's anything they could do to bring me back to wilds, unless they completely overhaul the game with the inevitable G-rank expansion (which they aren't going to do)
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>>728332916
I thought the S version was suppose to have some new content but I didn't keep up with the game since it was DoA
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>>728332682
The webm quality is bad because I tried to get it under 4mb. I have an i712700 and a 4060Ti and it runs well enough on medium settings at 1080p and capped 60fps. But I have low standards for graphics.

I doubt they'll release S for PC given that they've abandoned it, but then the Switch2 version came out of nowhere.
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i am once again still not buying wilds.
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>>728332682
Does the game performance still take a fat shit after the map changes?
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>>728325060
I just bought the game for 30 buckaroos on PS5, it better goddamn be good
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>>728331610
They aren't done shilling Stories 3 yet even if they already have a trailer ready and waiting.
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>>728333386
It's not.
Genuinely worse than when the series was on fucking 3DS.
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>>728325060
So not only were the Palico and Sekrets meaningfully affecting performance, but a whole bunch of the living-breathing-world shit was getting equal priority to players, and monsters

but we're not even getting proper pre-processed LODs until February
Our systems are clients literally processing LODs every single frame, but it's going to take another three months before they can pre-process and include things in the game files

Even pretending any of this (the LODs will help)
the game is dog water. Focus mode is irredeemable garbage.
Capcom could pull off a technical miracle with the performance and I wouldn't touch the game again until it is fundamentally redesigned.
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>Tryingtopandertoeveryone: The Game
No
Hope it bombs even more and it never gets an expansion
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>>728333278
Long as I can get 1440p 90fps locked I'm good. I care more about sharp clarity than polygon counts. As long as it isn't blurry and smeared.
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>>728325060
Lol they didn't do fuck all for dd2 because they can't. Nothing will happen.
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>>728333386
if you dont like monster hunter you'll love it.
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>>728325060
no thanks bro
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>>728329075
Investors will fire their ass if the line doesn't go up fast enough.
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This is the one chance in a life time Capcom has to make g-rank free and gain back the good will from MHs community and you just know Ryo is such a fucking clown he wont do it.
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>>728333657
I wouldn't accept it. I don't care if it's free if it sucks ass, which it would.
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>>728325060
I'm so sick of poorfags drawing Dev time away from actually important stuff like new seasonal events. The game never even dips below 30fps on my 4090
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>>728325060
>LOD in 2026
genuine question, but how the fuck do you not add lod to your open world game?
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>>728333871
Unknown technology
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>>728328807
It's what convinced me and many others not to buy it. It certainly served a purpose, even if it's not the one they intended.
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>>728333657
>g-rank free
Never gonna happen, they should just accept it and move on to the next game.
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>>728325060
>adding LOD
Are they saying there fucking aren't any?!
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Wyveria didn’t feel as post-apocalyptic futuristic society as it should've.
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>>728333871
Why bother? General consensus has been shifting towards any and all performance issues being the player's fault and something they should be shamed for if they bring it up.
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>>728334028
Half the game is ugly caves because its not finished and they slapped some shit together
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>>728325060
i'm committed to skipping their next game, fuck them
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>>728325060
Monster Hunter games are boring, maybe they should fix that
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I don't care if I can run it, I know the game is ass. too little too late.
remove all of the pajeets and let me play without autowalking forcing me to just look at the ugly game instead of playing it. remove the tard npc's telling some insignificant life story every other moment. maybe then I'll turn my head.
but until then, don't even dream about making an expansion if it means I'll have to play this piece of shit first.
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>>728334103
Fuck you, this mindset is what ruined the series.
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>>728325060
Has this game become playable on the Steam Deck yet? That's the only thing I care about.
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>>728334169
People calling the games boring ruined the series?
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>>728334169
Capcom being greedy and incompetent would have happened no matter what. Enjoy your mtx and 30fps.
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I think forcing people to play the shitty story before they can experience the G rank endgame wont make Milds look better or sell more copies.
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>>728333871
By generating it all dynamically on every single frame!
Technology? Isn't it great?! Publishers don't have to spend 25cents of electricity to perform the same algorithmic LOD gen ONCE, and instead shift the burden onto consumers for many multiple thousands of dollars of electricity daily!
What do you mean consumers aren't happen with the performance?
Tell them to upgrade! This is progress!
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>>728325060
>Try to play Pragmata demo
>Game can't even run at a stable 30fps
I used to be able to play DMC5 on a shitty laptop, but can't even run their new games on current day hardware from only 3 years ago
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>>728334323
Thinking that Monster Hunter needs to appeal to people who don't like Monster Hunter ruined the series, yes.
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I started playing GU instead. Just got to the point where they start introducing the fated four.
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>>728334323
Tokuda has bent over backward to appease you and now no one is happy
Yes
people thinking something they don't like needs to appeal to them has tanked the gameplay irreversibly.
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>Want to play the older ones after getting bored of Wilds
>Too used to the charge blade in wilds now that the older ones just feel boring
Fuck me
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>>728325060
would the story be tolerable if nata is a cute loli instead?
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>>728334579
No.
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>>728325060
All these updates are just capcom admitting the game was not ready for release for at least 2 years. Suits should be fired for the poor decisions to push the game out far before it was ready. The absolute state of technical performance across all platforms was so piss poor it made DD2 look polished. I know people keep shitting on the devs but they need to realize it's the corpo dipshits that pushed an unfinished g ame out just to see some numbers and by doing so have irreparably damaged their company and profit margin. If I was losing a company money and face I would be fired, yet these retards are still employed.
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>>728333657
crapcom are still jewish in their core so fat chance
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>>728333540
I've only ever played worlds so I'll prob love it
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>>728334523
for me it's lance. Lance's current state in Wilds has a tool for basically everything.
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>>728334579
Trying to tie Yomogi into a story with Amatsu made me start hating Yomogi
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>>728334613
Tokuda and Ryozo didn't have to make an open world game and give every spec of polygon count its own advanced AI and mapping. They also didn't have to destroy the series gameplay and identity - C Suite didn't design the game you dumb bitch lmao
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>>728334621
definitely never going to happen - set that precedent and you will never live it down charging for the xpac again.
At this point they're better off taking a Portable3rd approach and just pretending it doesn't exist, moving on immediately to the next installment.
Focus mode is irredeemable. For all the work to undo the damage you might as well just start over.
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>>728334579
It would have given me a reason to continue playing.
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That's an awful lot of dlc for an unfinished game
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>>728334751
being fair to Tokua and Ryozo, they did not make an open world game.
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wilds is fucked from the ground up not even a grank expansion will fix it
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>>728335110
Well played
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apologize to itchy nose
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>>728331610
kill yourself pokefaggot
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So just 10 fps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvkZDIXOXj0
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Hell yeah. Suck it, Miyamoto.

The only thing I have 0 interest in are multiplayer monsters. I was hopåing that robot would be the end of it, but now they've turned Gog into a shitty raid boss too. Oh well.
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>>728335552
At 540p, yes.
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>>728335552
~10 fps increase from ~40 to 50 is like a 20% increase, no?

As someone already playing with around 90fps, an extra 20fps sounds pretty good to me.
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>>728325060
OH NO WE RECEIVED DEATH THREATS AGAIN
ALL PERFORMANCE PATCHES WERE ACCIDENTLY DELETED
Fuck off capcom
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>>728325060
>implying the performance is whats wrong with wilds
lol
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>>728329627
are you playing at 1440p or something i have a 4060 and play at 60 fps on high, 7600 cpu tho.
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>>728333871
They do have it, but they only use two levels of LOD right now apparently
The regular models, and models so far in the distance that they're only like 5 pixels onscreen

When the game fails to load shit and you get shit like this that's the distant LOD model
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>gained like 5fps
Wow everything is solve
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>>728336128
Please apply arachnophile mode before recording webms in the future please
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>>728336181
>@540p
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Optimize DD2 while they're at it
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why are they showing 540p results?
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I have a 9800x3d and 5080.
Performance isn't the issue the game just sucks ass and isn't monster hunter. It's also ugly as fuck.
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>>728334759
Focus mode doesn't factor in to how any of the monsters are designed at all, just the wound shit.
All you have to do to rip it out of the game is to make monsters flinch/trip normally from damage again and ditch the wounds. And make the Flayer skill do something else I guess.
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>>728334759
If you take my focus mode lance away from me there will be a reckoning
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>>728336460
Lance tourist
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its easy to see who are tourists since there is no mention of the new optional quests adding more life into the game
>but its a shit game
you autistic fucks have been doing this since 3u.
games not perfect but it isnt as shit as you all are making it out to be
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>>728336572
Yes it is. The games have never been perfect, the problem lies in how much worse than usual it is.
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>actually all the games were shit so Milds is good
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>long awaited PC optimization update
>10 more FPS if you play on 1080p and turn the settings down
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>>728335997
Yeah I play on 1440p. Thought about trying 1080 but this is my first time having a big monitor and the mind goblins make me want to run everything at this resolution
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>>728325060
How is the game on consoles, it's on sale and I'm pondering if I should get it
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>>728329627
>>728335997
have either of you actually tried using frame gen? /v/ likes to absolutely shit on it but if you're already getting in the vicinity of 60 fps then it's basically just free frames.
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>>728335997
>>728336956
Resolution does almost nothing to the game's performance anyways, even on my old PC that could barely run the fucking game I could go from 720p to 1440p with like 2 FPS difference.
>>728336985
At this point just wait for an expansion announcement cause they'll probably put the game on sale for like $10 like World
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Bot posts have arrived. Everyone pack it up to the other Crapcom thread.
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>>728336985
Haven't played on console but I can't imagine the game was designed differently there so it's likely still shit
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>>728336683
you all say that about the current game, its a cycle like with zelda
>>728336743
you are an idoit I didnt say the other games were shit, i was pointing out how you autistic fucks hate anything new and find anything to complain about and make mountans out of mole hills
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>Its just the Zelda cycle remember when *every game that released was shit and stopped selling copies after week 3*
>the game is amazing just buy it nothings wrong with focus mode or the story or the map design its great just get it the deluxe edition and the 400USD of silly hats and earrings at the DLC storefront
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>>728337448
Yes it couldn't possibly be that there's a pattern emerging there. Monster Hunter and Zelda games are just as good as they ever were unless ur a dum h8er.
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>>728337094
I have to actually play the game not just watch it.
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>>728337632
I think you actually might be autistic or dont play games anon
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>>728336572
All these 9* quests are undermined by the fact that all the monsters they've made 9* versions of don't spawn naturally in the world and half of them are arbitrarily limited to timed event quests.
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Sorry capcom. I've gone fool Coomtard. There's nothing you could do to draw me in at this point.
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>>728337629
MH has been in a "new game is shit old game is better' since World came out and old school faggots were pissed.
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>>728329273
Wild Hearts was so kino, shame EA killed it
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>>728337907
Because World was shit.
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>>728325060
I might consider it should I get some decent primary or secondary source reports that it runs well but I'm still probably gonna skip it since I think the open world shit and that dumb wound aiming things doesn't feel fun and I would rather go play more Sunbreak
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>>728337712
but have you actually tried it? I have and between native 60 fps and frame gen'd 100+ fps, the latter felt better.

Framegen feels like absolute shit to control if you're pushing 30 to 60, but once you hit 60 or higher you're past the threshold of having noticeable drawbacks outside of niche scenarios like competitive, twitch based multiplayer games like CS GO and such.
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>>728325060
I am so ready...to move on to Stories 3
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>>728338006
It literally, factually, scientifically can not feel better, you are just mentally retarded.
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>adding LODs in February 2026
lel
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>>728338006
Framegen removes 15 to 25% native frames when enabled. It also causes ghosting and about .25 to .50 seconds of input delay at 60fps. You are blind and retarded but hey not all of us are blessed with shit genetics.
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>>728325060
do i even bother playing it on the ps5 when worlds would be a better running game now?
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>>728325060
remove denuvo/enigma and then I might
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>>728337831
wrong, read up on crapcoms page for title update 4, they are new optional 9* quests. no one seams to care about the game enough to read for 2 mins to find this out and just want to fit in with the 'cool kids' complaining about performance and graphics (and no thats not me saying that isnt an issue)
>>728337629
>>728337939
again more proof that you either dont play the games or a sad autistic fuck. I bet you are real fun to be around anon
you are blowing up small issues to make them seam gigantic and on top of that taking it personally.
>every game that released was shit and stopped selling copies after week 3
nigga wilds sold 4x as much as world in less time what the fuck are you on about 1.4mill is the most any monster hunter game has sold
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>>728338316
You are such a stupid bitch lmao
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>>728333657
The full grank expansion? No way. A fraction of it? Like a demo sized part of it? Maybe.
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>>728338253
im the dude sticking up for wilds and id suggest staying with world if you have not bet it yet and waiting for grank.
my main complaint with the game is not enough content
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>>728338354
>You are such a stupid bitch lmao
great retort retard, did you fetch that out of your dads ass while you were fisting him?
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>>728338316
>saying World was shit is proof that you don't play games
Ok, keep slurping up shit you sycophantic faggot
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when is the update removing focus mode coming? I'll come back for that
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>>728338564
Never. At best you'll get a mod that does that, ah but in like 3 years when they remove denuvo.
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>>728338564
An update that tacitly admits they fundamentally fucked up the game's design? Never.
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>>728338404
i haven't played worlds to the point that i have every suit of armour killed every monster & all the rest, definitely done the main story for worlds and iceborne.
if capcom can't commit to a proper working pc release for a game that's not resident evil then i should stay with their last competent release
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How are there still people that think it was called "Worlds"?
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>>728338316
>wrong, read up on crapcoms page for title update 4, they are new optional 9* quests.
That's what I said. They're only in the optional quests. All the monsters they're making 9* versions of will only be in optional quests except 9* Rathalos, which they're pretending is a selling point that he will appear in the wild.
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The game is on discount for $34.50, is it worth getting?
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>>728338095
the game being visually much smoother allows me to parse visual information better, which has an impact on my gameplay = it feels better.

Unless you've actually tried using it i don't want to hear another word from you.

>>728338173
>.25 to .5s of input delay
no?
modern nvidia framegen adds 20ms (0.02s) at it's absolute worst if working with about 60 fps native. less than a 10th of the retarded numbers you've vomited out.

Again, unless you've actually tried using it I don't care what you have to say. So much of the discourse around frame gen and upscaling is fear mongering.
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>>728338724
Sunbreak did it when it dropped everything related to rampages
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>>728338847
lmao
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>>728338646
>denuvo
I forgot this was a thing. What are the chances half the performance issues are because of it?
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>>728338847
>.02s of input delay at 60fps (45fps native when enabled)

Lmaooooooooooo these shills ain't even trying
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>>728338489
my statement is correct though, each monster hunter game has pros and cons and all have been enjoyable so far except for online.
cant speak for the first or dos on ps2 however have not played them yet.
>>728338734
most of the fun is with the AT/event quests, arena is also fun to beat your head against.
if you think you are done with world you should be able to emulate any other game in the series.
GU/XX and sunrise has a lot of content. sunrise more so in grinding for special investigations.
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>>728338870
Rampages were an added game mode, not a core part of the gameplay and they still didn't remove it
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>>728338935
I dont think Denuvo matters at this point - I barely saw an increase with World with the pirated version. The game is just fundamentally fucked hence why Capcoms got their performance patch videos unlisted and its running at 540p native.
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>>728338940
the time between 'real' frames at framegen'd 90fps is ~20ms

where is the additional 200ms of input delay coming from?
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>>728338812
fuck my bad misread it. your point is valid and is why playing the game after everything is realesed feels better as its a complete game where you can play all the events as you please rather than being drip fed and live served
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>>728325060
its a shame because crapcom looks like they are putting out some cool games.
wont ever pay for denuvo though, fuck them.
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>>728338935
none, the beta and demo with no DRM ran even worse
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>>728339073
It was one of the games main gimmicks and they effectively removed it by having no reason to engage with the game mode in master rank. No new rampage quests at all and the rampage weapon tree got no upgrades in master rank.
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All of you need to stop playing Wilds right away, and then all start playing Wilds on the 16th, to show Capcom just how much they've lost by waiting this long to optimize the game.

I know it's a hassle, but it's worth it or their next game will be unoptimized crap again.
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>>728339024
>there can be no relative drop in quality as long as I'm having a blast
Ok, keep slurping up shit you sycophantic faggot
World and it's design philosophy sucked and following it has dragged the series down
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>>728325060
Not only is it too little too late, they know damn way the only way they can fix this mess is by remaking the game on a fundamental level. This is what you get for chasing the casual market, hope you didn't run out of world's profits as a result
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>>728339302
Rampage is not the fundamental or core game design of Rise. Silkbinds and wire bugs are - focus mode and all that surrounds it is a core design of the game that cannot be easily removed in the expansion.
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>>728339302
They gave no reason to engage with in the base game other than once or twice, it was always primarily side content
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>>728338830
No, get a real monster game instead from before World.
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>>728339317
so you agree sunrise is a good game then?
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>>728339608
Better than World and Wilds, worse than the rest from 3U onwards. Overall not really, no. Not nearly as good as it should be.
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>>728332075
I miss Avinia...
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>>728339024
you've just laid out my feelings about the game so i know now what i feel was a common thing, wilds was such a waste not just because we have worlds, but because they done such a good job with worlds that you didn't need another game. if they wanted to blow everyones mind they should've done an island based MH game or a open ocean monster hunter game. not heres a massive hallway dotted with locations. so much wasted potential
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>>728339701
because it doesnt play like FU? you can see where im going with this yeah? you just want to be one of the 'cool kids' you dont actually play the games just want to complain
>>728339753
idk anon, I think the strongest thing the series has going for it is that at its core is the same but each game has enough changed plus a gimmik added in the later games to keep the hunts fresh and not being like call of dooody or fifa
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>>728325060
Maybe they should've added more slow walk and talk segments.
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>>728330027
Just preordered.
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>>728340053
That's what the G edition is for numnuts.
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>>728340028
can't argue with that, they keep it familiar while adding something more & it still brings the people in. not many games can be that consistent
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>>728325060
I'll play it when they remove Denuvo. That seems to be the biggest cause of poor performance.
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>>728340028
I can see where you're going, yes. You desperately want to find some way to reduce any statements about declining quality since the shift toward broader appeal started to blind contrarianism. It won't work. I will always judge entries within a series against what has come before and in this case the latest entries come up lacking.
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>>728340272
denuvo has almost no impact on performance in games unless they have specifically fucked up the implementation like they did when they layered their own anti cheat on top of it in worlds.

you might get an additional 1-2 fps once it's gone in wilds.
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>>728325060
>run like shit for year
>people give up
>now it's time to fix it
idgi...
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>>728325824
It's fine if you have more than a toaster.
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>>728325060
We need the expansion that (has a small chance) might be able to fix some of the gameppay issues by February, who gives a shit about poorfags' muh optimization
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When are they gonna update REFramework...
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>>728325060
The game could run at 120hz in 4k and I still wouldn’t touch it.
The game direction is so shit. Who the fuck’s idea was it to have monsters destroy your camps? Why even have the shitty looking drought seasons? The game’s chock full of little misfires like this. There wasn’t even a comfy village with colorful characters, just a bunch of rundown tents where they feed you off the floor, but only on Wednesdays. The maps are too fucking big. Why would I play this game and have to ride the stupid bird when I could play Sunbreak and drift around corners with the dog and actually have fun?
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>>728340371
again to autistic to see anything other than what you want to see.
so how about instead of just talking out your ass you actually make a point, how is world and wilds worse than any other game? how about you make a point rather than these fart statement?
>>728340237
yeah not saying everything is a 10/10 but each game is enjoyable so far and fresh enough to keep my attention at least
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Worlds was a mistake, now we have to listen to bots astroturf the internet about how terrible wilds is.
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>>728325060
>Capcom are commited to improve performance!
well they have no choice if they want it to run on the switch2.
so you're welcome
also still not buyin.
give me mon hun 5 tyvm.
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>>728341258
Maybe if capcom made a good monster hunter game it wouldn't get shat on.
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>>728329273
>it's just incredibly shitty world/rise/wilds
glad i passed.
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>>728340378
I personally ran tests on Iceborne the day before and the day after denuvo was removed. There was no difference in performance at all.
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>>728332604
>LT hunter vision
>all those abilities
putrid
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>>728340820
>again to autistic to see anything other than what you want to see
Very bold claim from someone trying to convince himself that he can safely dismiss everything said because I didn't play any of the games.
The most obvious downgrade since World's release is in the huge drop in expectations from the player. Need to fully restock on potions and bombs 15 times on a hunt? Go ahead, can't reasonably expect you to succeed otherwise. Forgot to eat before leaving? Not an issue, eat at camp. Decided to wear entirely the wrong equipment? That's hardly your fault. Can't keep track of skill points from your armour set? No man could possibly do that, just take the full skill for each piece. Having trouble with the monster? Just wait for another monster to come attack it for you. These kinds of issues just get worse, at this point you don't even need to return to camp for more items, they'll just airdrop stuff into a bag for you every 5 minutes so mount up and grab what you want.
But wow, that skybox is pretty terrific.
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Still playing FU
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has a fanbase ever gotten monkeypawed harder
>i want a MH with polish, large environments, and great graphics
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>>728341556
I did a full Long Sword run recently. I cancelled my Dual Blades run, my SnS run and my Hammer run because I was bored. I was thinking of doing a Gunlance run, but man, the upgrade tree is such a pain to follow in FU.
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>>728341757
As long as I get to fight fun monsters I couldn't be happier. The only stuff I'm not happy with are the raid bosses and AI-controlled companions. They better cut that shit out.
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>>728325060
Didn't they say that shit can literally never be fixed and just use fake frames?
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>>728341442
i don't like being able to restock consumables but i fail to see how being able to eat just as a hunt begins vs only before the hunt begins is an actual issue. both are just giving you +stats before you go to fight the monster.

Frankly I'd like an option where every time I start a hunt money is automatically deducted and my meal of choice is applied so i don't have to waste time eating.
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>>728341945
woops meant to reply to >>728341547
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>>728341945
One of the two lets you eat again if you lose your food buffs
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>>728341868
They actually originally said the game ran fine and for people to stop being poor and just use framegen. Since sales have stopped after week 3 they have retracted that statement and are now added more options to make the game look worse to help give you a few more fps.
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>>728341547
and they forced you to use any of the camps? not once did the game force you to use it, its effectively not there for the normal players and adds accessibility to new players.
its not like the clutch claw/ wounds/ skills where you are pretty much (but not fully) forced to use them?
>having trouble with the monster? Just wait for another monster to come attack it for you
you do know monsters could hurt each other before world, there just want a cinematic for it
>they'll just airdrop stuff into a bag for you every 5 minutes
wow 3 small pots and 2 cool/hot drinks really does carry me, glad you made that point anon.

2 of those things you can ignore and it doesnt change the gameplay, its there to be accessible to newbies. im surpised you didnt mention we dont have gathering quests and the farms are just making the game to easy for us.

lets say we use all you said, 9* will still give you a challenge since they can 2 shot most builds making restocking etc trivial since most people cart before they fully use their stacks.
again making mountans out of molehills, core gameplay is still there, challenge is still there but you dont like it becuase its different.
and why didnt you mention hitnumbers?
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>>728341868
Yeah that's step 1, blame the consumer.
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>>728341945
There's a mod for that. If you forget to eat in Rise, you can't get the daily special (which you always want) and it turns into a big hassle. I hate it.

>>728342065
While I don't want to see the developers of my favorite franchise suffer, this and the statement that the story led to Wild's success were so profoundly retarded that I'm glad things didn't go their way.
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>>728342027
old games were more casual since you didnt have a time limit and it was just for one mission
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>>728341945
It's one of many signs of expectations from the player being lowered. It used to be understood that forgetting to eat was your own fault, now you need to be given as many chances as you want to remedy it instead of being left to live with the consequences of not paying attention.
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>>728342271
If you forgot to eat you'd just abandon quest. Unless it's one of those horrible terrible rotating quests in 3U - Then you're fucked.
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>>728325060
too little too late, niggers
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>>728342178
Monsters don't just hurt each other, they actively target each other now. A second monster will run in, ignore you to have their little turf war and then run off.
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>>728342271
if you forgot to eat and you're not fighting something that's a complete pushover it just means you waste 40 seconds going back to eat before restarting the hunt.

It's completely superfluous. If you're fighting a monster that inflicts poison and you don't bring poison curatives, then that is a scenario where you should've prepared accordingly for your hunt. Eating meals however is something that you always do, there's no reason to ever not eat a meal. It would be like if your weapon's sharpness did not automatically replenish after every hunt and you had to resharpen it when you start the new one. Why are we wasting time with this?
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>>728325824
what's unacceptable is using an old graphics card for a new game and expecting good performance. if you want to play the latest AAA, you need the latest hardware
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>>728325060
>Play the godawful story
>Finally opens up to the good part, the grind
>The story has ruined any desire to play further
>Thought of going back now that I have a better PC
>Probably lost all my muscle memory
>Think of starting from scratch
>Remember the story slog
>Proceed to play literally anything else
I'll play it when they add a "skip story including the walking sections" option.
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>>728342178
>you do know monsters could hurt each other before world, there just want a cinematic for it
By accident, yes. They were still trying to attack the player. Now they ignore the player to fight against each other and trigger a cutscene/bug riding that each break the pace of the fight and give you half a minute to heal and sharpen while the monster takes free damage
>But you could throw a dung pot and leave the zone for a minute to make sure the monster leaves without engaging with the 2v1 at all
If you were a faggot, yes, but it was a choice. I don't have a choice to turn off Turd Wars and the disabled bugriding still locks the monster in place for some free damage
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>>728342547
That's fine, in a general sense. But Wilds does not look anywhere near good enough to warrant the increased demand. Clearly the devs were too lazy or incompetent to properly optimize their game. These are the devs that put a PS2 game on the PSP, that got a Wii game running 45 FPS on the 3DS.
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>um, sweety, just stop being poor, okay?
>just buy a 3000 dollar graphics card, turn on fake frame generation and you'll be able to play the game at silky smooth 47 fps if you keep looking at the ground
>just stop being poor, okay?
How about i don't buy your shit, busted game Ramdeeph and spend my money elsewhere? How about that?
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>>728342506
If you forgot to eat you're left with the choice to press on or forfeit your time and quest fee to fix your mistake, there was more than 0 accountability on you. And in the case of multiplayer hunts it's made more important for you to pay tbe bare minimum of attention.
Again, it's matter of expectations from the player, you used to be expected to handle preparations for a hunt, now it doesn't matter in the least.
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I was planning on buying it when I upgraded my GPU but by the time I did I completely forgot about this game.
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>>728342656
i typically also prefer starting over fresh after not playing a game in a long time but with mh games it's very easy to replicate that process without starting over.

Just wear a basic starter high rank set and then fight all the high rank monsters in threat level order and only allow yourself to use a monsters gear once you've beaten it (once or three times or whatever).

>>728342796
because it's just busy work. It's no different to having item loadouts that automatically replenish your items of choice rather than going into the menu and moving each of them over. If it is something that you should -always- do, rather than a tradeoff or have a drawback of some sort, then either get rid of it, automate it or streamline it to make it waste as little time as possible.
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>>728342972
I'm always playing fresh. I just do some light cleaning, take a piss or browse websites when the story segments in World happen (before they modded that out) or a walking segment in Wilds happens.
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>>728342474
>moving goal posts
you can still get them to do significant damage, its an extreme but look at the multi ra-gang arena fights
>>728342703
> give you half a minute to heal and sharpen
goes to next zone, have near infinite time to heal and sharpen
no one said the second part, that just you making shit up again.
if you think turf wars make quests significantly easier you are retarded.
sunrise though that shit is bad as you can pretty much trigger mounts when you want ride it to another monster wall bang twice then bounce it to the non target monster and get a ton of damage.
but id argue that doesnt matter much since afflicted gives you tones of free dammage and trips if you target the afflicted zones right.
you could of brought up something like rise but your so stuck on hating world/wilds

just admit you are autistic and the thing you actually hate is the forced cinematic/story shit that while annoying is still tolerable.

>>728342748
i play on 4k on a 3070, dont think you need an expensive card to play at 60fps
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I wonder if capcom has data on how many hunts involve someone switching to their secondary weapon. I'd be curious to see the numbers.
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>>728342656
finally someone bring up some legitimate issues with the game
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>>728342178
>and they forced you to use any of the camps?
I detest this shitty ass argument so god damned much. It is such a cop-out bullshit argument that you can hardly call it as such. It's THERE. It's there to be UTILIZED. To not use it is simple retardation, if not for me, than for other players. It's a nonsensical mental hurdle meant to trip up only the biggest of mongoloids with fewer than 2 neurons to rub together, and that fact alone paints yourself as a fuckin retard to begin with. The point is that it SHOULD NOT have been included at all. Capcom should have just spent the time putting those damned popup tents in for unfucking the gargantuan mess their shitty engine is. "Oh you can ignore them" fuck out of here with that.

As for 9* monsters, they're hardly a challenge to begin with because the CORE philosophy of Wilds and it's use of Focus (even barring the abuse of wounds) makes nearly every weapon 3 times as effective as it should be, while offering zero tradeoffs in terms of risk vs reward. It is a straight-up buff to every single weapon, lowering the difficulty of any weapons use, and any hunter who can't decimate a 9* whilst using Focus Mode is tantamount to just being a bad hunter, period.

But I will say something about damage numbers that should resonate with you: yOu CaN jUsT tUrN tHeM oFf AnD iGnOrE iT.

You dumb cunt.
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>>728325060
even if it ran perfectly the gameplay is still fucked
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>>728343208
>Rise takes change introduced in World and goes even further
Shit, if only the point of contention was that the direction things have been going since World was the problem which would cover Rise's problems as well
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>>728343307
I think the bigger question is, how often did you actually run out of mega potions in the old games?
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>>728325060
>Capcom are commited to improve performance! Please come back... Please...
Didn't they do this song and dance for tu3 too? How many times are redditbrained retards gonna believe them?
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>>728334398
>WARNING
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>>728343418
More than 0 times.
The bigger question is should the games have a button to skip hunts completely with full rewards as long as you don't need to press it?
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>>728343246
There are monsters I much prefer fighting with lance so I don't mind the feature for being able to jump into random hunts without swapping all my shit.
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>>728343523
I'm just trying to understand what the problem is. You only ran out of items against the really long-winded postgame bosses that denied easy access to basecamp, and I feel like against stuff like Alatreon and Fatalis the quest timer is so strict that you can't afford to resupply anyway. I mean, it always comes down to the last few minutes for me, and rejoining the Fatalis fight takes forever.
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>>728343418
During the days of Tri, where the game absolutely refused to hold your hand for anything? Where you had to go out into the field and harvest whetstones just to prepare for the next hunt? Back when wikis weren't a thing so you had to trial-and-error your way through a hunt? Back when resupplies were literally only 2 first-aids and that was it? Back when you had to actually go out on harvesting runs to keep your shit stocked up because the farm only became useful towards the mid-point of high rank? Back when one had to paintball a monster to know where it had run off to? Back when you were pretty much wholly and truly alone in your hunt?

Often enough to memorize the herb and honey locations of each and every node as I honed my ability to hunt as time progressed. You weren't afforded the time to go back to the start and pick up resupplies unless the monster was already nearby, and as I said before you'd only get 2 first-aid potions and you'd have to use honey on them to make them First-aid+ potions. You had to get that shit in the field.
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Steamfags try not to give bot farms free money challenge (impossible)
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>>728343307
>its a shitty argument because I dont like it
nigga if you feel the need to use camps I doubt that you find the 9 that easy lmao. again they are not there for good players they are there to make the game accessible to noobs like you. why do you think it sold so well?

>But I will say something about damage numbers that should resonate with you: yOu CaN jUsT tUrN tHeM oFf AnD iGnOrE iT.
It's THERE. It's there to be UTILIZED. To not use it is simple retardation, if not for me, than for other players. It's a nonsensical mental hurdle meant to trip up only the biggest of mongoloids with fewer than 2 neurons to rub together, and that fact alone paints yourself as a fuckin retard to begin with. The point is that it SHOULD NOT have been included at all. Capcom should have just spent the time putting those damned popup tents in for unfucking the gargantuan mess their shitty engine is. "Oh you can ignore them" fuck out of here with that.
>You dumb cunt.
your looking into a mirror autismo

>>728343416
no from what i read it was a spesific argument about the world/wilds style of game.
but to counter your argument if its sliding down why isnt it a thing in wilds? on that note why isnt underwater fighting a thing? why dont we have styles/switch skills
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>>728343830
Tri still had a farm. You're describing MH1 and Dos, which had their charm for sure.
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>>728343708
You also ran out if you weren't good enough to not constantly get hit. Freely restocking as often as you like coupled with automatic crafting and gathering without even stopping removes any barrier for skill requirement. I can now just make sure that part of my restock includes a farcaster and be back at camp as often as I like. If I need 60 mega pots to clear a hunt I don't have to get better at the game. Even when you could craft more mid-hunt before it meant taking time to stop, gather materials and to ensure that you could even do it for sure you needed to sacrifice inventory space which made it an actual choice.

Now, should there be a button to skip hunts as long as you aren't forced to use it?
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Honestly they need to add more choreograph monster fight like Omega/Alatreon for it to feels like classic monhun again.
Seeing combo spammer carting and leaving after 2/3 is funny as fuck
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>>728343420
They promised 0 performance improvements for TU3 and instead deferred to TU4
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>>728344071
Wow, you're actually still pushing the hunt skip button that like it's a strong argument? OK. Maybe you're not worth talking to after all.
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>>728344178
Why won't you answer it? Because it reveals how fucking retarded the "you can just ignore that feature" argument is?
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>>728344229
but anon you can just turn off the damage numbers.........
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>>728344274
Too late, the game is fundamentally built around seeing them
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>>728344371
so are camps
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>>728344696
No no no no you can ignore those
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>>728344165
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2246340/view/534357988855514766?l=english
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>>728333871
Outsourced models to jeets and didn't specify they needed more than 2 LODs.
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This thread reeks of sour grapes, not being able to run wilds is one thing but world as well?
Is this TurdWorld hours?
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>>728325060
This could have the optimization of DMC 4 for PC and it would still be a giant pile of dogshit. The game itself fucking sucks
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>>728344734
Yeah, all that stuff posted in "Future Plans" was for TU4 (and Jan + Feb now too) and not TU3.
Though I was wrong that they promised 0 for TU3. Still, it was only a single sentence on improving texture loading for NPCs and Seikrets.
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>>728325060
Can they patch Rise and Generations for switch 2 already
I wanna play generations in 60fps
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I buy the schizo theory that the reason DD2 and Wilds was so rushed and disappointing is because Exoprimal was a huge flop. This game was actually way more expensive than people realize and more importantly Capcom's big push to get into GAAS. Much like Concord this game slopping and flopping had a huge knock-on effect on Capcom's other upcoming games because this was "the future of Capcom" in the eyes of investors, now that turned out to not be true so they're scrambling for other games to pull the weight on their fiscals
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>>728325060
didnt this game come out like a year ago, i remember playing it way earlier this year
why wasn't this done before
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>>728347228
I would have liked Exoprimal more if it wasn't PVPvE. The PvE stuff was fun, but playing against other people was ass cancer. Competing against other teams for dino kills would have been alright I guess.
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>>728347578
Capcom needed the game out early to meet quarterly earning targets for their investors. It's the same reason DD2 was thrown out early and half-baked
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>>728347578
bro
it was such a mess that that accelerated the timeline for patches, and it's STILL too fucking slow
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What are the chances that Wilds G-Rank was scrapped because of Wilds' mildness?
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>>728347764
like 85%
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>>728347764
With how god awful the direction for Wilds was I would honestly believe that G rank was never even intended
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>>728347764
Wilds as a brand has become toxic and associated with negativty, wouldn't be suprised if Capcom cuts their losses and pretends it didn't happen at all, iirc they did something similar with RE6 it never got a Gold Edition like RE5 did
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>>728347228
The western marketing for Exoprimal was fucking disgusting. Completely put me off from even trying the game.
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>>728325060
no thanks
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>>728325060
why didn't they commit to this ahead of release?
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>>728326726
This. I could forgive the lag if the game didn't look like puke
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>>728344126
They need to remove weak spots
It ruins the game
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>>728344896
They’ve been spamming anti Wilds threads for like a year
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>>728325060
if I can't run it 1080p 60fps on my 3070 laptop then I'm not buying
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>>728329273
jesus they even straight up copied the affinity effect



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