>Hey nice combo retard>*Ruins your fun*Why did they make him so fucking insufferable?
you know it's kind of weird that the chinese are so horny for this gameand also that none of the horny mods are translated
retard is right
When that second one supposed to be hitting early access? I thought we were supposed to get something in November.
>>728416396>he lacks the higher order thinking to trip his turn swap on a turn where he isn't attackingTimekeeper is easy.>>728417226Every time the devs open their mouths about it they sound like politicians, so I doubt it'll be anytime soon. I've been trying to 100% the first game in the meanwhile.
>>728416396Honestly, I feel like I've had the most success against this bastard with combo heavy decks like shivs where I can easily control when his turn-end bullshit goes off. On normal decks it's a much bigger pain to play around because there's always a risk of me having to end a turn with 10-11 cards played and being left without enough room to do anything on the turn after
We all know Time Eater is a piece of shit, but who's next in line for being bullshit, Awakened One or Donu Deca?
you have an entire act to find a way to deal with him
Just poison her then triple it twice ezpz
>>728418836Depends on what you like to play, probably. I like powers, so for me it's bird bitch.
>>728418836Awakened one.Some builds rely on powers to be good, and awakened one getting buffed based on how many powers you use is horrible.Awakened one and and Time eater are manageable if you are smart but if we're talking ascension 20 they become absolutely insufferable, because your character's weaknesses against them will be magnified two times over.I don't think I have ever felt like fighting against Donu and Deca was unfair on the other hand, if I die to them I can always tell myself my defense was lacking or I had bad scaling or my deck was just not put together properly
>>728418836Awakened is the worst for me. Potential to ruin all characters. Time-eater is possible even with a shiv build + luck
>>728416396decks that play 12+ cards per turn are better off against time eater than decks that play 3-5 cards per turn, because ending every turn to the time clock still gives you massive action economy next turn when you start at 0 and can play 12 new cards, while a fair deck being forced to end a turn with 8-11 stacks on time eater means you just eat a bag of dicks the next turn cycle
>>728418836Gremlin Nob is the real piece of shit who singlehandedly warps your act 1 card reward choices because if you don't you just die to him even harder than to the act boss
I learned how to play the Watcher recently and holy fuck she's addicting. The Miracles and the stance changes are insane.
>>728421049Bro your attack cards and potions you picked up along the way?
>>728421106nta but Bash and Pommel Strike are not gonna do it against a 90 HP guy you can't reasonably use skills against my man
>>728421106I'm not saying he is hard to beat, I'm saying that he completely warps your reward choices because everything other than raw offense gets you killed.It's absurd how a single Act 1 elite does that, it's the only other enemy that reaches the same level of forced deckbuilding as Time Eater or the Heart
>>728418836Gremlin Nob and Book of stabbing are the true cancerlordsFor how early you can find Nob, he's here to squeeze out your pots and damage check you. Book of Stabbing checks your block or weak debuff, but cranks up so fucking fast it becomes obnoxious. Neither of these two fights is ever fun or strategic.
>>728421167you have to take early attacks in conjunction with good hp managementwalking into nob with less than 40 hp and no potions is gambling your entire run, lag is similar. sentries are a bit different because there's cards and relics that solve that fight in a very clean way and they don't chunk you the way the other fights do
>>728421369Fights like Gremlin Nob and Slavers are why StS is balanced at all. Trying to navigate the balance between setting your deck up to get through the early floors while finding late game scaling solutions is the entire appeal of the gameContrast StS with other deckbuilders like Monster Train, where you're just looking for one broken thing and doing that the whole run. Without difficult early and midgame fights there's no true challenge for the player. Your creativity is tested by the game's constraints
>>728421773What creativity is there in being forced to pick shitty attack cards instead of fun skill cards because otherwise you have a 1/3 chance of instantly dying to an act 1 elite?An act 1 elite should not warp the game balance to the same extent as the final bosses.
>>728422089NTA, there are some cards that are actually unplayable like Clash
>>728418836Dead adventurer Lagavulin.
>>728418836avocado + rat
>>728419130>>728419203Are we playing the same game? If the power was worth including in your deck in the first place, it's gonna scale you way harder than it scales the bird. Awakened One is an absolute jobber compared to the other two.
>>728418836Awakened one.Especially if you're playing the Defect.Donu and Deca will never be a problem because they don't have enough artifact for their gimmick to really matter.The shit the other two do with their gimmicks would be the equivalent to just giving Donu and Deca 20+ artifiact instead of fucking 3.Obv time eater is leagues above both of them though since he can also just steal a turn or 5 vs normal decks.
The Maxx C of roguelike deckbuilders.Fuck combo slop.
>>728422141Only because it wasn't designed with ascensions in mind. They could easily fix it by making it deal 0 damage if its conditions aren't filled, instead of being a literal brick.
>>728421093She's lame because she's too strong. Feels like a modded character instead of an official one.
>>728423516I hate this regurgitated streamer opinion.The defect also has most of his cards focus on his one mechanic does he also play like a modded character????
I think she being in danger of taking double damage and dying in one turn balances her pretty well, but I'm also not that good in the game and I never forced her infinite combo.
>>728418836Donu Deca is a godsend 9 times out of 10
>rng trash: the game
>>728423862Are you talking about Watcher or Silent?
>>728416396>so fucking shit Watcher comes with her own cockblock card against him
>>728424080I meant to reply to >>728423516But yeah talking about Watcher.
>>728418836I can't think of a deck that would beat the Awakened One or Time eater that would also lose to Donu Deca.A silent deck with a bunch of block and your only damage card is Noxious fumes maybe?I feel like if your deck can beat the Awakened one it can beat Donu Deca easily.I just figured they were there so Asc 20 wasn't always fighting 2 hard bosses.
>>728416630Aside from The Buxom, what are some decent nsfw mods?
>>728424132Yeah for me she is the strongest because she can just make things happen without needing that much bullshit like the other characters. I still don't understand how you win with Defect without having Echo Form on your deck.
>>728424318Defect is simple, you figure out early on if you're blocking with orbs or cards and tailor your deck around it.Rarely you get a babysit the dark orb deck going that just kinda one shots bosses easily.Echo Form is pretty much just a free win card.
>>728424292most of it's skins and ai slop sadlythe ones that aren't are all just in chinese i'm just weirded out that this game of all things got chinks all horned up
>>728424318Defect is the hardest character for me and was the last one I beat the heart with.
>>728423689No because he's weak as shit. Watcher's snowflake mechanics are OP.
>>728424468It's likely the randomness of it all.Most h-games you can force the character into winning or losing. There is little control over whether you win or lose in Slay the Spire.
Are there any decent mods?I never tried any.
>>728424610Only QOL. The ones that add content suck, since the balance is nowhere near as good.
>>728424590Very subtle but sudden, interesting way to bait anon.
>>728424610don't believe anybody who tries to sell you downfallthe entire setup is fucked because they don't invert the rest spots so you get one right at the start and then none before you fight the boss
>>728424530>Defect is weak as shit>Watcher is OPMaybe come up with an original thought before coming to this argument and getting your opinion from the huge pool of five(5) people who play this game everyday and have extremely autistic preferences and biases toward characters.
>>728423516>she's too strongNot really, no, she's pretty well balanced.Her strength come at a pretty hefty trade off so timing is extremely important with her, and her unique mechanics (Scrying, Retain, Vault) emphasize this.
>>728424468In China, it's only socially acceptable to be horny when hypergeometric distributions are involved. Anything else is being lazy.
>>728424292tried this mod out a while back and it felt like it actively punishes you for engaging with the character's main mechanic by filling your deck with renamed dazesi crashed out about it so hard i couldn't even jack off properly
>>728425027The autists biggest turn off.Bad game mechanics.
>>728425027Some anon told me to get the older version on Nexus from before the mod dev went full retard.
>>728416630>>728424468>>728424590It's not only this game, the chinks really love chrono ark and have a whole load of nsfw mods as well. They are both card roguelikes so maybe they are just addicted to rng and gacha derivatives.
>>728424318>I still don't understand how you win with Defect without having Echo Form on your deck.Defect have a long build up before going off, so he needs to hold off enemies for as long as possible.He's also a prime candidate for Snecko Eye because he have a ton of powerful expensive cards.Also you're wrong, the best Defect card is Biased Cognition
>>728425027Well yeah you have to play around it. There's a common card that puts all the not!dazes into your hand so they don't pollute future turns, and a power that makes them all deal damage scaling off your booba size when they exhause.
>>728425321They also love grand strategy games like Hoi4 and Victoria 3. They have specific tastes.
>>728425420>Also you're wrong, the best Defect card is Biased CognitionIt's funny because the only times I've won post asc 15 is with Biased Cognition or Echo Form decks.
Sell me on Hello World.
>>728425486one and a half ways of making the dazes less shitty does not make it that much better, especially because i think literally all but one of the rares either increases tit size or wants your tits to be really big to pay off also just turning off block at 30 tit size is annoying but that's a much smaller issue since it comes with a huge attack boostlike if i wanted to really play around with the mod it felt like there was no choice but to reset until i got the one rare that makes the dazes do something on floor one
>>728425694When you have singing bowl you get +2 max hp when it's in the card pool.
>>728425694I once picked it because I got it confused with White Noise and was very sad
>>728416396Game falls apart at the end when using a card at the heart takes health away. Its trash game design.
>>728426009No block?
The fight before the heart is just as tough. I'm an ascensionlet though.
>>728426009>Plays a single block cardProblem hearttoids?
>>728425519The only reason you shouldn't grab Biased Cognition any chance you get is because you're doing the very niche Reprogram/Hyperbeam build.+4/+5 Focus is extremely powerful, and getting even more is always a plus>Lightning orb: Go from 3 to 7/8 damage per turn and from 8 to 12/13 damage on evoke>Frost orb: Go from 2 to 6/7 block per turn and from 5 to 9/10 block on evokeNow consider that you always have multiple orbs you'll probably be cycling constantly, and the buff from Focus adds up really quickly, that by the time the downside can even become a problem, you'll have finished the fight already.>>728425694>Sell me on Hello World.If cycling your deck isn't important, it's a nice power since it's basically a free extra card draw + it fluff your discard pile for Stack.You don't need the card? Doesn't matter.You've got energy to spare and nothing worth spending it on? Well you've got an extra common card that can probably add something.
when will they port this guy for chaos zero nightmare
>>728426137>don't go for the heart>get easy ascensionsheh nothing personnel
>>728426334People do Ascension heart runs?
>>728426056>>728426206And then the heart attacks for like 80 damage a turn.
Fact: Corrupted Heart is the best final boss of any roguelike. It's the complete opposite of pic related, which is one of the worst.
>>728425321it's odd but i don't think i've ever even looked at chrono arkis it good? it looks kinda cool but i got baited by chaos nightmare or whatever the shitty gacha deckbuilder was so i don't want to buy in without a review
>>728426450Only if your deck fucking sucks and you can't kill it in the 16 turns it takes for it to use it's 10 strength buff.Otherwise it only hits for like 30s and 40's.
>>728426765>is it good?No. Its appeal is anime presentation and story-focus. The gameplay sucks. Music is far better than it has any right to be.
>>728426551>Game with a bunch of unique ways of attacking enemy ships including teleporting your guys onboard to kill the entire crew>Literally create a boss that makes it detrimental to do that>In fact it's detrimental to do anything but fire high hull damage missles at it since it just makes the ship strongerWhat the fuck were they thinking.
>>728426765It's really good, a lot of unique and interesting card mechanics, although it's kinda easy and the difficulty mechanic makes the game easier for some reason by letting you slot in more relics and not ramping up the final bosses although it ramps up the act bosses.
>>728427138>push through the anti-fun mechanic and kill the ship using boarders anyway>it jumps away (with all your crew) and intakills themproblem? :^)
>>728427329>Kill the entire crew with fire missle build because the crew just stood in the fire and died>ACTIVATE SHIP WIDE AUTO REPAIR THAT PUTS OUT FIRES INSTANTLYI'm having fun :^)
>>728426551I dislike damage caps. Just amp the per-card damage if you don't want infinites.
>>728427138On normal boarders still work incredible as long as you leave the one guy in the laser alive, you just need literally any weapon to finish it off.On hard you just leave one guy alive and he actually can't do shit to your boarders if you keep your two healthiest guys in shields (he'll fight until he's injured and then run back to medbay before he dies if it is operational) and cycle through them with your clone bay or med bay to keep them at reasonable health and just...Turn off auto fire with your weapon before you last hit the phase.I guess the auto ship one can jumpscare you the first time if you don't know what is coming, but the jumping away thing you should have known better than the last hit the ship with your crew still on it by the time you get to the flagship with boarders..
>>728428182The autoship is really gay because it actively punishes you for using a game mechanic>killing crew disable a weapon>you disabled all weapons? Well fuck you, now all weapons are active again and you can't deactivate themIf it was at least weakened or forced to use weapons differently, it'd be fine, but no the boss just gain a major buff for playing the game.Imagine the same with StS>Oh you weakened the heart?>Fuck you now it gains Strength equal to the damage you lost>Well next time you know you shouldn't be using this mechanic :)
>>728428819Crazy that this post understates how anti-fun that boss is.Imagine if you poisoned the heart and it got +1 regen and another artifact every time you applied poison.Imagine if it un-summoned an orb and got metalicize or knocked you out of stance every time damage was dealt to it with those mechanics.Imagine if it cleansed all your powers at 50%.That's how fucking stupid that boss is. The optimal strategy is literally just firing high hull damage missles at it and shielding the damage it does because everything else is punished to a hilarious degree.
do you guys still pick up terror even when you have all the pieces to make poison pop off
>>728428819autoships do have weaknesses, namely that it still repairs slower than multiple enemy crew and that it is completely unable to repair breaches. It's an overall buff most of the time, but occasionally when you have a good way to cause breaches it's good for you to kill off all of the crew.
>>728429481No, not really.Once you've got a poison build ready, the only potential benefit for an upgraded Terror is artifact removal, but poison cards and relics already do that and often do it better, so no reason to pick Terror.
>>728429996what if youre trying to get through act 2 on three energy
>>728424879>Maybe come up with an original thought before coming to this argumentBut it is not a lie.
>>728430150Well you're pretty fucked if you have to rely on Terror to survive Act 2 with a poison deck.By Act 2 you should be having some source of Weak already, which can also be used to remove artifacts.
>>728417327they have a monthly blogthey said a month or two ago I think that they decided to add alternate "floors" or something (1-1 or 1-2, 2-1 or 2-2, 3-1 or 3-2, that kinda thing) which sort of doubled their workload, and thus pushed early access back to the spring
what the fuck was his problem
>>728416396combo? I play 3 cards a turn, every turn.
>>728425694sort of like an extra draw every turn the first (though in long fights it can bloat your deck)coupled with the fact that defect in general has pretty decent common cards so you're rarely mad about a lot of them joining the fightlike many uncommon cards in STS it's better the earlier you get it, and tends to fall off late game
>3 bajillion clones>none of them are good
>>728416396Whose this?
>>728429749What's the benefit of causing breaches to an auto ship?
>>728426765I like it a lot. You have a choice of which 4 characters to bring in a run, so while each character's choices are not as deep as slay the spire, the combination of your party and your ability to synergize them make it pretty interesting. it's also the evangelion of card roguelikes.
>>728425027Like in real life, milk is OP
>>728432807
>>728417327>trigger his ability every turn>die because I'm only playing 12 cards a turnif it were possible to remove him from the game I probably would have at least double the amount of time in slay the spire
>>728424318>8 focus>7 lightning orbs>tempestmy last heart kill was something like that
>>728429996Maybe. Envenom + shiv hybrid poison build
>>728423689The Defect also sucks bro.
>>728418836I got the Awakened One on my first ever run and killed it. It was pretty easy.
>>728433282Pluto looks like it will be good.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3057670/Pluto/
>>728423689i mean watcher was literally created with the most fan input than the other heroes, and later than themand fans are retardedi get what they mean
>>728434231What mod is this?
>>728424292>Thought it was a mod that that gives the Silent and the Watcher big boobs or something like that>It's just a new character modLame.>>728438932
>>728418836This nigger. People like to post the snake plant but this shit is worse.>have to deal damage at excruciatingly slow pace>completely RNG based intents>can permanently make your deck worse>hey I'm getting cursed with 1 attack left in hand, what's the worse that can happen>hey, I'm getting hit for 57
>>728424292>love big boobs>hate expansion/growthOh well>>728433282Monster Train 2 is good
>>728418836neitherawakened one jobs to every power build you can think of except retarded non-functional shit like power defectand donu/deca are just a scaling check, if your deck can't handle them it was going to die to either of the other bosses anyway
>>728425694It gives you shitty common cards in act 1 so you don't have to take them, later it's one remove instead of 4.
Will StS2 manage to be as good of a sequel as MT2? MT2 is damn near objectively superior to MT1, while still feeling robust enough as to not just feel as an MT1 content update and actually feel as a new instalment. Will StS2 be able to achieve the same thing?
>>728442472yes, unless they blunder and add the blind chick back in.
>>728442472Idk I'm hesitant.What we've seen so far looks alright but I don't wanna get excited because it's not really a lot.MT2 is legitimately one of the best card roguelites released atm though. Insane amount of synergies and builds that work but don't just feel like free wins.
>>728439304fuck YOU and fuck SPAGHETTI
>>728442472I wonder how long we'll have to wait until we get a Deception Engine demo. Not that the devs need or should rush or anything. But I am very curious as to how that game plays.
>>728416396If you can't kill time nigger, you WILL lose to the heart.This fight is still a complete cancer because of how constraining it feels. It's just extremely fucking unpleasant. Heart's mechanic that punishes card spam is arguably more dangerous, but it feels nowhere as bad.
I probably won't bother until I've played and tried Slay the Spire 2. And actually, since I'll own Slay the Spire 2 at that point, I will probably/hopefully not even bother going back to Slay the Spire 1. But. How is the process of modding Slay the Spire? And does it help that I'm not code illiterate? I have no idea how Slay the Spire is structured though or if there are recommended tools or whatever for the process. Porting mechanics and characters from unrelated games is something I could probably enjoy wasting time on every now and then in-between doing other stuff.
>>728433282I really did enjoy Monster Train, and MT2 was one of my favorites this yearIt'll never be StS but I've always been happy with the effort they put in
>>728433282Game is mentioned often. But not without reason. Chrono Ark. And if you don't like it and prefer Slay the Spire or maybe don't even like Chrono Ark at all for some reason (though I struggle to think how a fan of StS wouldn't like Chrono Ark). Then fair. The game IS different. But the game IS also good. Splendid even. Try it if you haven't. Claiming it isn't good would be a lie.
>>728424318All for one cycle decks are super fun. I got lucky on one and managed to get a deck with Hologram, All for One, a shitload of 0 cost cards, and the shuriken and kunai that increase your strength and dex. I have literally never been able to make the orbs work, if not by accident.
I don't think I ever finished this gameWhat happens when you destroy the heart
>>728448924>All for one cycle decks are super fun.Except you need something in your deck to mitigate 2 damage per card played if you want to finish the game lmao. Defect isn't silent and doesn't have shit that enables intense card spam. The only way that shit wins the run is by being a frost orb focus loop deck which happens to have some claws in it.
>>728449484The game closes then a hyper realistic heart with bloody eyes jump scares you.
>>728449484You get a little scene, then credits, then another little scene
i like the frieren mod and also the darkest dungeon narrator
>>728416396I don't think i have a particular problem with any of the act 3 bossesThis bitch however is a run ender every fucking time
Defect is fucking boring and them getting rid of him makes sense.>orb deck>orb deck with blizzardAnything else works on a20 only in absolutely perfect super lucky conditions. Compare that to the assortment of what you can do on other characters.If they bring defect back they need to thoroughly rework him.
>>728426009beating the heart is not required for a win. it's an extra challenge for if you manage to build a deck that's so broken that the main boss feels too easy
>>728433752They can't repair system damage if there's a breach either. Effectively it disables the system permanently. Technically this is also true of fires, just the fire is unlikely to last long.
>>728449809Sounds gay
>>728450424for me it's this fucking thing
>>728416396Faggot. Every run that I don't get to fight him I feel cheated since I didn't actually beat the game then.
Hey nice hitpoints bro
>>728439304>Curse intent>Only attack in your hand is a multi-hit
>>728425163Honestly this. The older version had bra types be powers and it was fun to play around that, but the newest version plays around with not having block, but extra hp instead. Which is fine, but it feels like you HAVE to play a certain way now.
>>728426917on higher ascensions you need to kill it by around turn 10-12 usually since beat of death doing 2 damage really adds up. The key to beating the heart is to have potions that let you avoid a bunch of damage from shield/spear on turn 2 when he spear puts the burns on top of your deck. And then on turn 1 against the heart avoid leaving a small amount of cards in your deck at the end of the turn or else you'll draw all curses.If you have mostly full HP going into the heart fight you can just tank a few turns of bad hits and usually get set up enough to win. If you get hit hard by shield and spear you almost always lose.
>>728450759Bronze scales should carry you through that fight here if you actually picked enough blocking. You need either non attack damage sources or large chunky attacks. If you get to this fight and still have a bunch of strikes in your decks you fucked up.
>>728424610I liked the touhou mod and some of the character mods. I don't think balance is that big of a deal though, mods are just something to play if you want more STS and get bored of the main game. Touhou mod also had my favorite miniboss, the onewhere you get frozen eye for the fight.
>>728450562>0 cost all for one deck>Powers deck>Reprogram deck>Meteor Strike deckI've beaten a20 many times with all of those. You are just retarded if you try to force a frost/focus deck every time. I'm not the best player but my win rate with defect is just as high as the other characters. He has more variety in play style choices that silent.
Thoughts?
>>728418836Avocado, spear and shield, snek and slavers are all worse than any of the other bosses. Time eater just asks you to go online quickly. That's a good idea for the heart in any case.
>>728423689Watcher is too strong and has too many good cards Defect instantly loses if you don't get focus + orbs
>>728424610I think both rhythm girl and packmaster are fun characters. The cafe adds a spot between every area. though it's kind of silly and makes it really easy to get overpowered really fast. the map biomes can sometimes be fun but it's a mixed bag.
>>728450424She is too thick, I can't hate her.
>>728451598Fun card but feels retarded that upgrading it makes the focus penalty higher. It would feel much more pickable staying at -1 focus. You need to see this early enough to not have more than a couple orb/focus cards or get lucky and get pellets which usually wins anyway. When it works it's insanely powerful. Makes basic strikes/defends decent cards.
>>728451598Whenever I see it early I pivot the entire deck to non-focus, non-power, attack and block cards only deck and remove zap and dualcast as soon as possible (in that order as dualcast is still usable if you draw it before reprogram). I've only beat the heart this way at a20 a few times but it's always worth trying for fun.
>>728424767next update changes this back it was way too focused on flavor
>>728418836donut is free, the awakened can still fuck your shit up big time
>>728452443And when is the next update?
>>728424292https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/11883947/post/98586781https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/11883947/post/94770814
>>728453420friday hopefully because I've been working on this shit since aprilthankfully I managed to force the revive thing onto only a single rare card because they would lynch me if you couldn't revive but a revive archetype sounds horrific
>*fucks up your card*
>>728454478Do you mean the art? I guess this is from StS2? I bet if you and others don't like the new art for returning cards, someone will make a mod early on to restore the art of the first game for returning cards.
>>728454707He probably means the exhaust.Now it's a pummel that takes 4 card plays.
>>728454478>Blade Dance now exhaustsWhy?! My shiv decks...
>>728454995Oh yeah I didn't even notice that. Well we can't possibly know what changes are coming for this to be considered necessary. In StS1, once a shiv deck is going, you don't even need to cycle through the deck before everyone is dead, but it wouldn't do for blade dance to exhaust during a boss fight. Maybe in StS2 there are more ways to generate shivs they want players to consider and not just rely on blade dance.
>>728421369if nob didnt exist then the next dps check down would be book of stabbing and people would complain about that instead. just like how people used to complain about book of stabbing before ascensions buffed nob to be an actual threat
You can pick 1 skill for every 2 attacks in act 1 for a safe bet against nob, it's really not a big deal. When I see people complaining about nob I imagine people picking 3 cool minds or 2 deadly poisons before picking up any attacks at all.
i never felt as powerful as i did when i was the orb dude wiht the when you play a might a random card costs 0 artifact i defeated the heart so easy having 10 lightning orbs all deal 12 damage is so fun
>>728454478>your card but better
>>728455586I think I saw a combo card that plays every shiv you've generated, including exhausted ones.
Corruption + Dead Branch is so fucking funny. I once got the relic and the card out the rewards of one elite in act 1 when I was at 12 health with a relatively shitty and by the time I was in the 5th floor of act 2 I was wiping the floor with hard pool fights in one or two turns.
>>728450125>frieren modIs it actually good? >darkest dungeon narratorA narration mod?
From what we know. What StS2 things do you look forward to the most / is the most impressed by?
Is the sequel actually releasing in march? Or is it early accessing in march?
>>728416396>*Laughs in Burst/Catalyst+*
>>728458960>silent feet extract
>>728416396I was not aware that this guy healed at half health the first time I fought him because I stacked 3 upgraded catalysts on him and brought him from 2/3rds to 0.
>>728459059https://files.catbox.moe/8aora1.png
>>728418836shapes are basically a free win unless you take absolutely forever to scale, in which case one of the other two will screw you even harder (and you'll still lose to heart)
>>728451598Very good to have on a 0-cost build since beside the 2 starting card (Zap+ and Dualcast+) you've got no free orb and it's mostly direct damage.Also handy for the very niche Hyperbeam build since you're using Plasma which isn't affected by Focus and Hyperbeam is direct damage.
>>728424610packmasteranimatordrifterbuxom
>pick Kidney Stones after Act 1 boss>first Act 2 fight is immediately birds
>>728426450>why do i have to mitigate damage, this is bad game designyour wraith form? your glacier? your barricade?
>>728451598Physical defect is about as viable on a20 as juggernaut clad. It can be done but stars really have to align for it to work and if you try to force it you'll probably die in Act 2.
>>728459578Sitting cozy at the bottom of the deck, and not coming out no matter how many cards you draw.
>>728459787>and if you try to force it you'll probably die in Act 2.You should never try to force a build, period.That's literally where you get RNG to fuck you raw with no way around it.
>pick up well laid plans and smith it>basically guaranteed to get pyramid as a boss reward after>skip well laid plans>never see pyramidWhy does the game do this to me?
>>728459561I mean...
>>728460436The answer is to pick it up and not upgrade it.Then get forced into a fusion hammer.
>>728460436pyramid is shit
Are any mods actually worth playing? I see Touhou shit and I'm like 'that can't possibly actually be a fun remix'.
>>728461580https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1961933183
>>728461580https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3291348508
>>728461580They're usually pretty good, although for theme remixes you probably want to actually like eg. Touhou else there's not much point. I basically only play with the Ruina mod on these days, it's generally harder so it suits a lot of the modded characters. I'm especially fond of the Chimera Cards mod adding random effects to every card but since that almost always means better cards the difficulty needs to go up.
Will Silent's feet be in STS2?
>>728459561>>728461263I don't get it.
>>728462637Then play the gameAnyone whose played more than 3 hours would know what these two things do and how they would interact
>>728462748I don't remember every relic's effect by sprite.
>>728462786Then you need to play it moreYou should know what every card does and its name by the art alone
>>728462637>Philosopher's Stone>+1 max energy, every enemies get +1 Strength the start of the turn>Byrds: Main attack is 1dmg x 6
>>728462786If you can't remember how a boss relic work you should go see a doctor.
>>728462978>>+1 max energy, every enemies get +1 Strength the start of the turnOh, I've seen that relic. Who would ever take that, lmao.
>>728433282I've been playing Menace from the Deep and it's pretty good. People whine about the meta-progression but I think it works here because it's Mythos and I expect a heap of dead characters before shit starts coming together.Nobody seems to know Breach Wanderers but that's pretty good.Lost branch of legends is good....if they'd hurry up and fucking finish the rest of it I might even be able to recommend it.
>>728463089+1 Max Energy is always good to get, and +1 Strength doesn't really do much on most fights. The main drawback really only comes to play when facing multi-hits enemies, like Byrds.
>>728463470>+1 Strength doesn't really do much on most fightsexcept for the last one...
>>728446542>How is the process of modding Slay the Spire? Literally just click a button on the workshop.
>>728463594Yeah, as I said, multi-hits enemies become a major problem.
>>728463649Oh, you meant actually creating one. It's kind of ass, and it depends a lot on how comfortable you are with having to get help from a discord channel.
>>728416396If it ruins your build your build was shit. Just play enough cards each turn to trigger his mechanic.
>>728461580It's entirely a matter of suiting your own taste.
>>728463691Dying to the final boss makes it a tough pick for most runsBecause in the end, even if it wins you 20 fights; all you need to lose is one
>>728463470>+1 Strength doesn't really do much on most fightsSure, but you can really feel it when it does. I know this, so I would never pick up Philosopher's Stone.
>>728463594>>728463901**optional** final boss
>>728464049Winning a run requires killing it
>>728463901>>728464048Yeah, but that's true of any drawback from boss relics, they all have the potential to rape your run, it's more a question of whether or not you can work with it in your current build.>>728464136No, it requires killing the Act 3 boss (bosses on A20)
>>728464338>woman with constant mood switch wearing a catgirl maid outfitYeah it checks out
>>728464331>No, it requires killing the Act 3 bossListen, if that's how you like to end your runs. More power to you.But me? I like to collect the keys and kill the heart
>>728421049>Gremlin Nob is the real piece of shit who singlehandedly warps your act 1 card reward choices because if you don't you just die to him even harder than to the act bossI feel like the problem with nob is more that he forces boring choices than anything, he's not hard but he's also not at all interesting to fight. In point of fact if I can't get a kill 1 elite floor 1 for free I usually reset because i've played it so much that all of act 1 feels like a chore.
>>728464489That's fine but you can't then say it's required. It's not. Your autism may compel you do do things but let's not project.
>>728463741>and it depends a lot on how comfortable you are with having to get help from a discord channelMan I fucking hate discord. I miss forums. If only all the modding details was in a publicly browsable forum.
>>728465058I love suits. But it's difficult to beat SpaceJin's Silent.
>>728442472>getting wins in MT2 >thinking "this is cool but I wish I could play with the original clans">mfwGood sequel. My only complaint is that runs feel like they end before you reach your full potential, especially on Covenant 10. In StS being fully kitted is basically guaranteed by the end of Act 3 (with the more common problem being you've bloated yourself), but in MT2 you're almost always still working with a not-quite-there build by the time you get to Seraph. It's a minor complaint, though. Fun game.
Can someone explain what the fuck is meant to be the appeal/strength of Defect? It seems impossible to get decent defense on him and you're constantly struggling between saving or spending orbs/slots. He's the only character where none of his mechanics seem to synergize at all.
>>728458410Frieren's gameplay is interesting, she gets mana every turn which lets you play from a pool of special cards from a separate deck. Allows for a bit more involved gameplay and thinking. It also adds copy frieren as a final boss which honestly i dont think its very balanced, or i just suck fighting it. The narration mod is just that, the narrator from darkest dungeon that says a line here and there as the turns play out
>>728466581Random bullshit go. Find some focus and break the game, or find no focus and eat shit.
>>728466581Frost orbs and lots of focus is a universally good deck if you have energy and draw to set it up quickly, and it's not that hard thanks to other shit like turbo, seek, coolheaded, hologram and shit.Also don't tell me power spam decks aren't appealing when you get one of those going it's tight as fuck.
>>728466581Scales relatively linearly. Has decent basic cards. There's plenty of ways to play him.
>>728466581It's a long setup, rapid scaling character.You're always looking to cycle orbs since orbs are basically cheap sources of everything you need that also provide a bonus when they get evoked. As a bonus, orbs are not counted as attacks so they are unaffected by Weak or Thorns for instance. Focus is really strong because it's basically Strength+Dexterity for orbs, which quickly adds up, even a single Biased Cognition can carry really far.It also have the strongest 0 cost build, with cards that give it the ability to recall every 0 cost cards in your deck back to your hand.Its Power spam build is really fun.> It seems impossible to get decent defense on himHis block cards are mostly an immediate bail out and not something used for drawn out fights, you need to cycle Frost Orbs for that.>And you're constantly struggling between saving or spending orbs/slotsYou shouldn't be saving your orbs (aside from Plasma if you know you won't be able to play any more cards), you should cycle them as often as possible, the evoking bonus is usually a lot more handy than the passive bonus.
What's the most underrated card?For me its watcher's judgment
>>728468442Grand Finale
>>728468442The Bomb
>>728453519the second link (94770814) keeps giving ssl error. catbox maybe?
>>728462416>The sprite is her feet stirring up dust and not her using aladdin style shoesOh, I am retarded.
>>728446542>>728465907I'd only really say to go for it if you think its worth itit's not that bad especially if you know the basics of logic first but its tedious because packaging in intelli-j takes a couple of minutes if you're working on a big mod like a characteridk what that other guy is saying about the sts discord because there really aren't that many helpful people on it, you're better off looking at the downfall and packmaster githubs for in depth examples and looking at a template character for the very basics
>>728468442discovery i think is like firmly a tier in basically every build and nobody believes mechaos is also really good and nobody ever acknowledges it, 2 orb push for an average net 0 cost is absurd
>>728468775https://files.catbox.moe/f9zqdj.zip
Not gonna lie, I think any source of cards from other characters is always very fun.>draw an Anger as Silent and suddenly do 4x damage with Phantasmal Killer>draw Finisher/Anger as Defect 0-cost build>Barricade as Defect>Whirlwind with Watcher
They should make a Sans type enemy in the sequel who breaks the rules of the game and attacks you while you're picking which cards to use and can dodge depending on where on the screen you play the card
>>728469740it would be funny if they made an enemy that punishes you for taking too long on your turn
>>728454445Oh, you are one of the people working on Downfall? Do you have plans to make Donu and Deca playable someday?
Can't believe they got away with Donu showing you its hole.
>>728469740act 3 bosses should change the genre to fps
>>728470213>beat Act 3 boss>now you have to defeat the Heart in a kart race
>>728470290>defeat heart>new act 5 boss: corrupted brain>game becomes rts and never turns back
>time friendWhatever, I hate these niggas like you wouldn't believe.
>>728469994>>728470321>>728470702Stop trying to make me lust over smelly swamp witches.
>>728468442I broke so many runs that utilize reshuffle relics or cards that get stronger the more you play them.
>>728470805Never!
>>728435686>only playing 12 cards a turn>12 cards a turn>12 (twelve) cardsmaybe you should change out a couple of those twelve cards for a block instead of playing storm of steel every turn.
Did you know that this art depicts a hand moving chess pieces and not the king winding up a phantom haymaker?
>>728471990Yeah, because I played the last StS connections and looked at the art.
>>728471990how the fuck do you even see it that way
>>728471990I saw Michael Jackson doing the gravity lean lol.
>>728469051>you're better off looking at the downfall and packmaster githubs for in depth examples and looking at a template character for the very basicsThat sounds like a promising place to start. Guess I'll do so.
It might sound silly. Might even be downright stupid. And it also most likely won't happen, because if it was a thing it would have most likely been stated, shown, or hinted at already. But I kind of hope Slay the Spire 2 does something crazy like allowing us to play with multiple characters in the same run or something. Something new. Something that distinguishes the gameplay from the first game while still naturally staying true to the core of it.
>>728470092I want to but I'd have to convince the other contributors that making jacob and esau in sts is a bad idea as well as some other stuffI REALLY don't want jacob and esau because it's a design and balance nightmare but people EXPECT jacob and esau because there's two of thembasically my idea is flip cards which are cards with alter egos that you can swap between either passively or actively depending on the card, and a bunch of alternating attack and skill cards (follow up sanctity type stuff) but I was told it's not enough to sell the ideaand also in combat upgrades + searing cards, energy / next turn, weak + plated armor, and stealing block from enemies + cards that apply block to them
In every good /v/ thread there is some autist who keeps bumping the threads with cute waifu art and all I have to say is thank you for your service.
>>728421049
In every good /v/ thread there is some autist who keeps bumping the threads with coomer waifu art and all I have to say is fuck you for your disservice.
>>728476014Thread would have 404d 14 hours ago without it.
>>728476301Cute feet
>>728475706
>People talking about bullshit enemies>No mention of sneckoOne bad hand and there goes all your HP.
>>728479338>close the app >open it back up >yep it's gaming time
>>728479834At least it doesn't hit THAT hard. I end up getting trashed by the thieves on floor 1 more often than anything else, I think. 44 damage over 2 turns hurts real bad if you can't kill one of them on turn 1.
>>728479834I like fighting Snecko, actually.
>>728479338
>>728481312~kill allI did beat the game.
>>728481312>69x2Double nice
>>728418836after Time Eater, it's Awakened One because he punishes a thing that people actually tend to do a lot (play lots of Powers).nobody complains about Donu and Deca because they only particularly punish slow/grindy decks which are generally pretty bad in STS.there's still a massive power gap between Time Eater hate and hate for Awakened One simply because playing cards is where so much of the fun in the game is.
>>728416396So just play 12 cards then do it again next turn. Are you dumb?
>>728482454The thing with Awakened One is that if you can't work around his gimmick, it's still possible to outpace him so even if you're doing a power focused build, the run isn't dead just because you get him for Act 3, you'll just have to be creative.With Time Eater tho, if you're doing any sort of spam build, you're usually fucked, and ny deck where you can't play 12 cards per turn, you're usually fucked as well.
>>728452443how many years has it been since they started this mod and it took the devs this long to add a basic change like this? wack.also does anybody know how to play the automaton, i can't win a single fucking run with it and my crops are dying.
>>728479338>>728481312>>728475706
>>728484957first of all upgrade goto that shit says draw 6 on it it's an eruption tier upgrade it's so fucking brokensecond off boss swap, the starter relic is okay but it's basically a worse version of pure water so just swapalso literally just spam functions, the character is similar to watcher in that there's only one real mechanic and the entire draft revolves around that mechanic and everything else is smoke and mirrorsfunctions have block, damage, and deck compression in them you don't need anything else and any card that doesn't say encode on it is bait just draft cards that say encode and winevery card that says encode actually has all of its values doubled because you get the values when you play it and when you get the functionthere's really no way to actually fix the problems with the character you kind of just have to start over design wise it's a radioactive character imo
>>728477119 Good.
>>728433282the only good StS clones are ones that take dramatic departures, like>Monster Trainwhich focuses more on being like MtG or YGO and has you playing creatures and augmenting them than actually directly killing enemies with your cards>Fights in Tight Spaceswhich goes all-in on adding a board with positioning>Chrono Arkwhich mostly distinguishes itself with its party-building and having a lot of emphasis on turn sequencing and hand manipulation rather than primarily asking for deck construction.
>>728416396I was really feeling the itch to play some single player card games lately, I'll jump back into STS after I go through Chrono Ark. I've mostly played the base game and some Downfall, any good character/overhaul mods that you anons would recommend aside from the ones already mentioned ITT?>>728425321Where can I find lewd Chrono Ark mods? I know about all the chink DD modders and knew about the overlap with some of them with STS modding, but I wouldn't know where to look for Chrono Ark stuff
>>728490857what is it with this swamp woman that make people so horny? i don't get it
>>728416396four souls isn't really vidya, but I guess it's adjacent, guess whether this thread stays up or not is up to janny discretion? anyways I don't usually end up playing with this guy since he's only usable in games with 3+ players. He doesn't really seem that annoying?
>>728490923Only fem player character in the whole game so all sex drive is concentrated in her.
>>728491294i hesitate to ask about the watcher
For me it's Tantrum beta art.
>>728491789I like Juggernaut but there's many great ones.
>>728483058 That's exactly the core issue with Time Eater – he's just a hard no to certain deck archetypes in a way that feels way more punishing than skill testing. It's not like Awakened One where you can play smart around the power ramp and still make it through with some scaling or lucky relics. Time Eater shuts down decks that rely on card draw, zero-cost spam, or retain-heavy hands just by existing. And god forbid you get him after taking Snacko Eye – enjoy drawing 9 cards and playing none of them, lmao. It's like the only Act 4 boss that feels actively hostile to fun sometimes.
>hey look at all these cool synergies you can build around! >actually you aren't supposed to care about the cool synergies, we taught you wrong as a joke, you are just supposed to build generic value lmao It was fun up until about ascension 10
>>728494369Wish Silent had some small interaction with the Nemesis like Watcher and Time Eater.
>>728494579>interaction between watcher and time eaterWhu?
>>728494394Then don't play higher ascensions? >ugh why can't I just play like a retard on every difficulty level
>>728495040>Never... Liked... You...
>>728495040>>728495213Some also think the time eater is from the same organisation whatever the watcher is from because the pattern on their robes is similar.I don't remember the event but if I recall correctly some event text implies the watcher is looking for a lost peer in the spire. Also Watcher -> Watch
>>728495495does the game even have lore? literally all i've experienced is that one floor 3 event where you get a single snippet from a random character when you get the free colorless card
>>728495576>does the game even have lore?Relative to other games, no. It barely even has a story.
>>728491294cleric is betterwe deserve our 2x cleric + snecko hallway fight they tested
>>728495576Yeah, event text is pretty much all you get. The rest is the few words a boss says and superficial visual similarities.
>>728450978the fact that they had the AUDACITY to make this fucker a random fight and not an elite still steams my beans every time i have to fight it
>>728465538>it's autistic to play a game on normal difficulty instead of easygame journalist moment.>captcha: 2KG0Y
>>728495907You can clearly see it's a grandma.
>>728462107>look for the Ruina mod>there are two of them (apparently 3 because one is on nexus)Uh. Do you use the one that adds 5 acts, or the other ones that also adds the sephiras?
>>728424292https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3598900044
>>728465538That's what the game counts as a winIt only says Victory in green if you kill it
>>728499000What is "mintModSkin" ?
>>728499000too "obnoxiously slutty" for me. borderline grotesque.
>>728501375i find that the skins change depending on how damaged you are interesting, i haven't seen that done beforebut yeah it's a bit much for me, especially the merchant skin
>coffee dripper and fusion hammer stops your main source (rest sites) of healing/upgrading but can be played around with relics, cards and events awesome design >ectoplasm and sozu stop you from gaining gold and potions not just from your main source (battle rewards) but at allshit design
>>728502131I can live without the gold but Sozu is genuinely unusable.
>>728502131>Beat Act 1>Tiny House, Sozu and Black BloodYour reponse, Ironclad?
>>728501256Looked through the files and apparently it's a skin mod that's >>728501375The impressive thing about this is that it doesn't only change the characters but also the card art and it even has, I shit you not, a fucking animated title screen. If only it wasn't so slutty.Here's the title screen if you're curious: https://litter.catbox.moe/1omqpu9j7q4dz4sl.gif
>>728502713for me it's the ironclad camp art revealing that her mask has a dildo attached or something that's stuck down her throat that kills it
>>728502713Is there any way to get the mod if I got my copy from GoG?I dislike body writing, but this definitely looks worth trying.
>>728503859https://steamworkshopdownloader.io/
>>728503998Arigato, anon-DOMO!
>>728505217>no pubes
>>728416396Skill issue, he makes you think outside of the box and adapt to his gimmick. You can pretty much control the pace of the fight. Book of Stabbing is worse because it scales whether you fucking like it or not.
>>728506113if you want the art to be worse you can alter it yourself quite easily
>>728507448that has to be so much fucking effort to put on and take off, like imagine it
I've been playing the Hermit recently.Super fun, but I don't see this guy holding up to A20
>>728506371not good enough to be worth editing. generic uguu animu does not fit silent at all.
>>728507681that's why the silent should be naked under the cloak
>>728416396You can't consistently play 12 cards per turn, nor do you have any way of generating block.
>>728453519It's hard to appreciate the boobies when the sprites are so zoomed out.
>>728464331>No, it requires killing the Act 3 boss (bosses on A20)It literally does not count as a win if you only beat the bosses on A20, it's literally the game saying that not me
goddamin iti had a great watcher game just now, but forgot to pick up the last keyi don't know what conditions the keys appear (or really, when your last chance to grab a key is)rammed awakened one into the fucking ground, i would have liked to see her have gotten heartbreaker, i thought there was a good chancesucks to play for 45 minutes only to realize you can't play the last boss when the credits start rolling after act 3
>>728499000>>728502713>AMD has detected this program demands more GPU than is availableI have 6 GB. Do I simply have too many Brave tabs open?
>>728512547the key conditions are incredibly simple what do you mean you don't know when your last chance isyou see blue key in chests, you see red key at camps, and you see green key on super elites
>>728512643really? that's it? i never noticed the colors were tied to anything, i thought there were just 3 to collect and you had so many opportunities to collect them before the game said "no more"good to know
there has to be more to the keys, because i don't always fight the strong elites because i generally try to fight the most elites
>>728461580https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3453588119https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3559583278I hope you like green keys anon
>>728502131Correct. Both Ecto and Sozu should only apply to fight rewards instead of universally.
>>728513043especially when you have cards like Alchemize
>>728502651Abandon run
wait people think sozu is bad? like i get potions are useful when you're in a tough spot but it seems like the best energy relic by far to me
>>728513330potions are more important than energy thoughyou literally only take sozu if you have good potions that you are sure that you can save until late act 3 and 4 as stated by xecnar himself and I really do agreepotions win just as many fights as having 1 extra energy
>>728502651black bloodgives you a little more room to beat yourself up to beat your opponents up
>>728513330sozu isn't bad but it is far from the best energy relic
>>728513509are they really that integral? i'd rather have 1 extra strike every turn over one fire potion a fight
>>728513509agreedthorns can help with the x12 attacks from the heartduplication can help you can stack some ridiculously good effectsrolling the dice for a random card priced at 0 can land you with things like 3+ cards that are almost unusable otherwisewhen i pick up the Sacred Bark to double the effectiveness of potions, it's pretty astonishing how broken potions become, especially if you have a White Beast Statue to guarantee a steady supply. it almost becomes difficult to decide what will kick the most ass.
>>728513509taking sozu probably fucks you over more than coffee dripper to put it into perspectiveit's really bad unless you have a good act 1 deck and 2 good potionsit's basically only takable from a winrate perspective if you think you can get through act 2 and its elites without potion use, and considering that act 2's hallway fights are the hardest part of the game in general, yeah, not the best relicnot unusuable, just subpar energy is lowkey bait anyway t. A20 on every character
>>728502651Black blood is great with self damage.
You have got to be shitting me.
>>728469618I wanna pet her soft belly
>>728424252Donu and Deca need frontloaded damage. Awakened One and Time Eater can be beaten with slow scaling, but the shapes can't (unless you have a metric fuck ton of block as well).
>>728515086considering the relics you already have, the coffee dripper is the way to go
>>728515396>can be beaten with slow scalingindeed. awakened one is easy, just don't play your powers until you get to the second phase.
How'd I do, Silentbros?
i'm talking about monster train 2 fuck youfleshweaver sucks my ass and i hate him as much as savagery
>>728502651>>728502279>>728502131Wait, all of you actually use potions? I've always been ignoring them and taking sozu every time its offered, are they secretly good somehow?
>>728517952t. nowins
>>728517952Watch Baalorlord or Jorbs if you want to see high level play of the game
i kinda wish this game had a deck builder mode so you could try out how things synergize or not assuming i just haven't missed it
>>728519026>Custom -> Sealed DeckLets you pick 10 from a selection of 30. If you want more control there's probably a mod for it.
I suck at this game. I like playing the Watcher. Any advice? I've only gotten to A2.
>>728519681Remove Defend early, look for ways into Wrath, abuse Tantrum and Rushdown if possible
>>728519681the more ways you can get into and out of calm, the greater the chance you can play like 10 cards per turn
>>728517952Think of potions as super upgraded cards that don't cost you any mana that you can play on any turn and all of a sudden you see the value in them.Draw 3 for 0Strength +2 for the rest of the gameStrength +5 for the rest of the turnDeal 10 to all enemies
>>728518932you mean xecnar and its not even close
>>728520916>Strength +2 for the rest of the gamewhich potion does that? damn!
>>728521507He means the whole fight.
>>728521654would be a epic relic: makes all potions permanent
>>728462978>start of the turn*start of combatbrimstone is the one that adds strength at the start of each turn
>>728425163having now beaten a run on the older version of the mod i feel like i actually prefer the steam onethe nexus one still has the exact same problem with the dazes it's just got more fiddly powers which is another annoying subsystem to manage
>>728515974How'd you end up with the golden statue after you got the shuriken when you fought your first two elites without a mystery room in between?
>>728523642The shuriken could be from an event.
>>728523774What event? You can't get Pleading Vagrant until Act 2. He didn't get a chest. I'm genuinely curious.
>>728416630I've seen a few translated ones and even I had to MTL translate one for myself for it to even not crash on startup but you have to know where to look.
>>728416630If they're so horny, why haven't they made a H-game knockoff of it?!
>>728416630tfw was looking for fun expansion mods on steam and it's all weeb coomer shit, grim
>>728416396Why do people always talk about this game as if you have full control over your deck build?
>>728524935full control is boringthat only works for pvp games
>>728524010I think it's scrap ooze or the box event
>>728515086Oh no, the character with self repair in his pool and who already has helix is offered coffee dripper.What a tragedy.
>>728512584What platform are you playing on? How did you start the game?
>>728524037>generic anime girl>art isn't even claw themedthe chinks really need to step up their game
>>728524156There are at least two of them
>>728418836Birds. Everyone else lets you play your shit, but A20 birds are the thing that basically force you to pick an energy relic, mass weak, or multistrikes because otherwise you can no longer down one of them in a turn and you're eating 36 a turn fight one of Act 2 >>728454478Shiv decks were so fucking busted if you got the damage upgrade it wasn't even funny
>>728527469There's plenty of Slay the Spire-clone hentai games. They're mostly pretty bad though. Last Evil isn't terrible I suppose.
>>728524935If you're not picking a fuckton of ? rooms, you get to see up to something like 48 card choices in act one of which you get to keep up to 16.You don't get PERFECT control, but damn bro, if 16 card picks wasn't enough for you, you're probably weak at the character because you don't know enough decks that "work" that you can improvise between them.
>>728513330I remember the old StS days when Sozu was considered the best boss relic in the game. Crazy how much the game has been micro optimized since then
>>728529632Sozu isn't bad. Depends on the deck and how much energy generation you have. If you are comfortably ahead and have two good potions by end of act 2 I would not have a problem with picking it, as it makes your turns even smoother and with more leeway.
>>728529632tbf if I have any kind of health economy going, I'm still pretty happy to see Sozu; potions are swingy but an extra energy goes hard
My brother in christ this is only the third fight.
You know how Steam has this option to play on mobile devices through streaming? Why can't I just get an android install of the game? The game has a android version and I have purchased the game. Why do I have to repurchase the game for phones to play it on phones? Why can't I just get a phone version alongside the steam version?
>>728433282Die for the Lich isn’t a clone but I think it’s very good roguelite dice builder. Check it out if you like StS. I found a demo on newgrounds and it was fantastic, it’s on steam now
>>728533973I wish Steam for Android actually did anything other than login verification. Surely there is some money to be made in mobile gaming through Steam. Also, I tried this streaming option a few days ago and it sucks. Pointless and uncomfortable.
>>728533973Google and Apple would probably eat Gaben in court if he tried to muscle in like that
>>728481312>calculator mod for those hard multeepliecaystation problemsFinally I can play the game.
>>728494394>>728495138Pretty sure the devs mentioned they only balanced around a certain ascension level and that anything past that is for autists. (Which tends to be the case with 99% of games anyway)
>>728518932>or Jorbs
>>728518932>JorbsI don't see how anyone could enjoy watching this personality void. Baalorlord is chill though
>>728517952the best way to play the game is to build a really greedy deck that doesnt work until midway through act 2, struggle through act 1 on the edge of a knife, throw all of your potions at the act 1 boss, and then do the three easy hallway fights in act 2 and finish your greedy deck, and then the rest of the game is an exercise in clicking cards in the correct order.
>>728538819I watched him play a defect run the other day and I still have no idea how it was possible to beat the awakened one with that deck. I would have died 20 times over.
>>728534429What for? You're allowed to run software on your smart phone without Google's or Apple's approval. Or maybe iphones suck balls I dunno. But I can run whatever software I want on my android phones.
I know that these options are easily ignorable. But I still hope the sequel has more interesting options.
>>728540792There will probably be more options but they look pretty decent so far.
>>728541430>Choose 1 of 2 packs of cardsWe're getting different kinds of packs with different pools of cards each?
>>728422980>t. nodefect
>>728540353he has runic pyramid mummy hand and two copies of biased cog. next time you play defect, have you tried channeling the frost orbs and the lightning orbs?
>>728541634'generate your three rewards, but instead of choosing one of the three you must either take all 3 or nothing' is one of the few ways people have meaningfully iterated on the STS formula.
>>728526194>downloaded .rar from GoG>contains Mod the Spire (includes BaseMod and STS)>mod folder for modsI could play fine with the updated Buxom mod I downloaded with SteamCMD, plus the monstergirl mod another anon linked from Kemono/Patreon.The only snag I can think of is>"Prerequisites are required: ModTheSpire and Basemod (the crash problem is mod conflict. Try turning off all other mods except the prefix."Unchecking StS took me to the logo screen, but the game still crashed. Unchecking all the extra mods would simply crash immediately.
>>728543378You might need to update ModTheSpire and BaseMod to their current Steam workshop versions and update Java as well. If you aren't already, you should start the game with MTS.cmd from the GitHub version of ModTheSpire. And if all of that doesn't work you can try asking in their discord server or something.
>>728544441Thank you for your advice. I'll be certain to try that.
>>728532539not possible. Slime gang can only show up from the 4th fight and onward.
>>728416396I have 120+ hours and still haven't beaten the heart once
>>728546089boss swap and neow's lament in s, everything else in f
You're on your third combat act 2 and these guys slap your girlfriend's ass, what do you do?
>>728545594Just use this + Bullet time and the game is done.
having played with the buxom mod some more i find myself revising my earlier opinions of itit's pretty fun despite the fact that it's really underpowered, at least specifically for the fantasy it's pushingstill haven't beaten ascension 2 with her despite doing over a dozen runs but i'm not very good at video games anywayalso as a sidenote that 'biomes' mod is ass ass huh
>>728472740If you want a little bit of inspiration from a different game, look at the way Blinkblade works in Frosthaven.The guy has a Time resource to spend that lets him play cards in a Fast or Slow state, and some cards have additional effects depending on which state he is in.Might allow you to play around active states rather than having 2 healthbars and their own resources.If anything it'd wind up closer to T.Laz which has jokingly been called "Jacob OR Esau", but its not the only game to have ever tussled with the dual character unit concept before.Could be something simple like playing certain card types (attack/skill/power) switch mode which has unique benefits for being in a specific mode already.There's a lot of design space to explore, good luck bro.
>>728416396Hes the easiest boss tho
>>728547156That card doesn't help at all with the hear though
>>728549432it's s-tier with any group of enemiesit's b-tier otherwise (but needs other poison and Catalyst cards to work; by itself it's too expensive)
>>728545594Do you at least know what the heart does? Build your deck to counter that. There are many ways to do it, you just need to be aware of what happens in that fight.Also very important detail is that it inflicts vulnerable first, so going into the heart fight with artifact potion/relic/card is one of the most consistent advises.
>Hailing from a distant planet, The Regent has traveled long and far on his quest for excitement that his homeworld cannot offer. His journey has of course taken him to the Spire, full of strange, formidable creatures to conquer and innumerable treasure to plunder. Heir to the Throne of Stars, he is a domineering and arrogant being who draws on the power of the cosmos and his long-suffering minions to do his bidding.
>>728551850i like the slaves
jorbs got raped by lifecoach his word on anything is invalid
Donut
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>>728552943>>728553032i wonder what the lore is behind the doughnuts in this game, especially doughnuts hanging by a string
>>728547218I tried it once, I don't think I quite understand the mechanics, I thought that you only lose the ability to build block if you exceed your capacity value, but I think I hit a point in my capacity that still lost blocking
>>728553667yeah you always lose blocks once you hit 30 bust size but in exchange you get 40+bust% more damageyou can also temporarily go into that mode with certain cards which seems to be a sub-theme but i haven't been able to make it work yet
>>728528336last evil's gameplay is fine but the scenes are boring imo
>>728554784I think the only problem the game has is the lighting, and the limited pool of voice lines.Not having an ascension or alternate deck pool limits what you can do but at least theres some mods for it
>>728422980What’s wrong with donuts? Double Damage from aoe and once you kill pne they are half as strong
>>728450424Kill the adds
>>728553032My mind thought of Kris when I saw that
>>728524935>just pick OP build A everytime you play and complain the game is boring because you always win with zero challengeThe fun part is the fact you never know how your deck is going to turn out and how you have to adapt with what you're given, it leads to winning with the weirdest decks. My most memorable run was a Silent Bomb deck because I got given The Bomb card and ended up constantly cycling my deck and shitting it out a dozen times every turn, then 3 turns later all enemies would eat a 500+ damage every turn.
>>728554224I'll probably give it another try, I wanna see how big I can get her
>>728558906Do her boobs actually grow on her sprite?
Slay the Spire 2 seems to have a decent art upgrade. But beta-art is still going to be a thing, right?
>>728547218>it's really underpowered>10 damage + status card that also deals damage for 1 energy>9 damage to all enemies + 2 effects on self for 1 energyIf anything, this is OP.
>>728559091Yes, there wouldn't be a point to the mod otherwisewhen I failed my run they had just burst out of her shirt
>>728559243I doubt it since that new artist they have is likely pulling their weight off it being a once duo-development team. But I can see them implementing it again if enough people want it; hopefully making it a community contribution event again.
>>728560698one of the newsletters said that beta art is going to be in sts2
>>728560470I initially scoffed at this mod, but actually playing it made me remember that I really like big boobs. Also, the status card gimmick is a nice parallel to the vanilla characters (except for Watcher).
I got scared of using StS mods after that Downfall one got hacked and legit injected people with malware for like a day.Apparently the retard dev leaked the repository for the mod
>>728559979button bullet and leane assist do not an overpowered character make, anonshe can't scale properly because she takes too many turns to get going on just about anything unless you roll white bikini/potions early for perma-bust stacking purposesalso lactation is underpowered and my dick says it should be a stronger status.
>>728559979>>728562073also so many of the cards are over-costed. why the FUCK is hungry dwarf, a WORSE Feed, 2 cost? if the common bounce barrier(12 block and 4 vigor per status in hand) is two cost why is the uncommon block card(flat block+bust size) also two cost? paizuri is literally a worse version of button bullet because it does no damage and requires an attack intent to work in exchange for two cards that are probably bounces anyway!and why is bovine form so uncountably ass when every other character's Form card is basically a high-risk 3 energy expenditure for a buildup that wins you the fight?
>>728561897post the compendium and keywords?
>>728562978>>728563121misclick sorry
>>728475706>>728479338I have hundreds of hours in slay the spire but I barely played like 2-3 runs with watcherit's too complex, and just not fun desuthis reddit post summarizes it well
>>728451598fixed
>>728563483silent clicks with me bestbut watcher is a lot of fun. moving between the stances is really interesting.
>>728467454>>728465058>>728464338silent and watcher are women???
>>728563483I see scry card I skipWorst mechanic in the game
>>728563483honestly I just kind of follow this and win most of my runs as watcher
>>728564023It should say gain focus lose str and dex, then it would make sense for the character.
>>728566441Have it be both, choose if you want to specialize into orbs or big stats.
>>728416396Yea, I think the end bosses are the worst part of the game. All enemies that react to types of cards you play are obnoxious in general since you can only build the deck that you're presented with and the enemy turning off that deck is anticlimactic. Then there's the heart which I tend to not bother with because then I'll have to keep taking cards that are good against the heart and all the decks will get too samey
>>728455906Nob isn't a dps check. Nob is a "hope you didn't take too many skills" check. It'd be fine if he was a dps check
>>728422141I love clash. It's not unplayable. I've done A20 runs with clash before. Just make sure you have cards that exhaust themselves or others.Clash certainly is underpowered, though, and not a consistent winner
>>728423953Astrea is the rng trash game. Just coinflips put the ass. "Oh cool, my dice rolled 'you might get fucked" instead of 'you are fucked', do I want to potentially fuck up myself or the enemy?"
>>728451598The cars list just isn't great for the card to be consistent. The character has like 1 draw card that doesn't interact around orbs or give you burns and there's 1 card to exhaust the burns. So you'll have inefficient draw while trying to scale up quick enough to not die/lose too much health. Defect's whole schtick is needing to power up, but reprogram is entirely too slow
>>728533973android program structure is fundamentally different from pc program structureit's non-trivial to porti hate it
>>728568048>it's non-trivial to portBe that as it may. The game is already ported for android. But you have to repurchase the game.
>get inspired by thread to pick the game up again>can't get through act 2 on ascension 4 with anyonefuck
>>728568989Keep playing, that happened to me also and I got better than I was before I stopped playing.
>>728563483>Watcher>complexIt's absolutely retard-proof and the easiest character to play
>>728563483needs an ironclad card that just says "deal 5 damage"love my boy but he really has fucking nothing going on in the strategic level
>>728568989After I picked up the game again lately I found my win rate improved by trying to pick cards that solve issues with certain fights first and foremost.
>>728564628>the ability to see the cards on top of your deck and discarding any of them if they're shit is bad
>>728571417deal 5 damage and EXHAUST and you've got an amazing card right there. love ironclad
i can't wait for StS2 bros.
>>728574075The artstyle is absolutely dogshit and it overall just looks like a soulless husk of the near perfection that is slay the spire. i wont go near it with a ten foot pole.
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>>728569648I think she has a high skill floor but a low ceilingI had the most trouble with her until I realized the game wants me to switch stances constantlyt. shitter
>>728416630Chinese are horny for any game you can mod. And they can't do any mod that isn't the most cookie cutter anime magical girls.
>>728574602There is no high skill floor.You literally just need to find one of multiple uncommon cards, upgrade one card and remove some of your starter cards to make an infinite deck which will stop the entire game with zero brain use.IIRC world record win streaks for all characters are consistently around 12-14, but for watcher it's like 35+. I have no fucking idea why this shit exists in an otherwise immaculately balanced game, people call it a character from a low effort mod for a reason. Many actual mod characters are probably better balanced than watcher.
>>728564935does anyone have card tier lists for all the classes? I'm too new to this game and i want to know immediately what signposts and archetypes to look out for.
>>728574981Watcher didnt have as much time in the oven to fine-tune things like the other characters, that's literally it
>here's a couple cards that block anywhere from 5 to 10 damage>btw here's the enemy attacking for 51what the h*ck!
>>728475706>>728563483>>728486237>>728479338wtf are you guys playing the same game i do? pick a couple of attacks, upgrade the wrath card and slap the nob to pieces
>>728575075the other characters' card pools arent quite as binary as this. ironclad you throw any old bullshit together (probably something with exhaust), silent you just need a good shiv (blade dance + accuracy) or poison (any poison application and some way to play multiple catalysts) engine and random discaqrd and draw bullshit to manipulate your deck. defect is the swingiest character in that if you dont see the good cards youre just losing. anything that gives focus + reliable frost generation are the two biggest things to look out for
>>728425694on act one>must pick in order to solve sentries>you're facing slime boss/hexaghostin act two>its okay to play it for slaversact three>dont pickact 4>its a fine solve for the burns placed turn 2
>>728439541Shit taste on both accounts
Before the thread dies let me say Slime Boss is a nigger and killer of act 1 runs
>>728576223Of course a dumb racist would die to the easiest boss.
aw man...
>>728576223>t. Silent
