Why didn’t she tell Cloud his memories were fake?
>>728424365He was already going schizo and she didn't want to mentally break him.
>>728424365Tifa could tell the moment she reunited with Cloud that he was extremely mentally unstable, so she needed to wait and piece together exactly what was going on. Tifa made the right call given that immediately after Cloud realised he wasn't le badass SOLDIER gigachad, he had a mental breakdown and did pic related.At the same time, Cloud didn't know things he should if he were in Nibelheim, while simultaneously knowing things he shouldn't if he weren't in Nibelheim; Tifa couldn't rule out that she herself was also delusional, especially after they both returned to Nibelheim and discovered it populated and completely unscathed.
>>728424365She didn't know what was real anymore because his account of events was way too accurate for him not to have been there, even though he wasn't as far as she knew.
>>728424365huh? yeah, that sounds good
>>728424365Because if she talked to Cloud there would be no Final Fantasy VII.
>>728424365Real women don't look like that.
>>728424365
>>728424365Tifa explains herself>Tifa>No, Cloud.>I've been hiding it for some time, afraid that if I told you... something terrible might happen.>But, I'm not going to hide anything anymore.>Tifa>You weren't here. Cloud did not come to Nibelheim five years ago.>Tifa>I... waited. But, Cloud... never came.>The two that were ordered here were Sephiroth and another person...
>>728424365she kinda tried in the remake
>>728424365/v/ has been spammed with off-topic webms for YEARS showing what happens to mentally ill delusional schizos when you challenge them. You know full goddamn well why she didn't tell him.
>>728424483>>728424497Didn't tifa also saw cloud without his helmet before she passed out?
>>728425146no
>>728425146No
Why didn't Auron tell everyone that the whole pilgrimage was fake?
>>728424567They do. I saw a woman today even sexier than Tifa
>>728425365That actually makes sense. They weren't ready to believe him.
>>728425365Because this old fucker is literally 30 years old and demented as fuck
>>728424365Because then she wouldn't be able to use that knowledge against him in the future. Because women.
>>728424365MAMA!
>>728425146You mean after she was slashed open and lost so much blood she was delirious?
>>728424567So?
>>728424365>Tell a mentally unstable person his whole life is a lie. What's the worse that can happen!? You're a monumental retard. You're a complete idiot. Is your generation honestly so brain rotted that you can't understand simple shit? Good Christ.
>>728424497/threadHonestly how many times does this need to be explained to people.
>>728426701as many times as the obvious bait will be posted
>>728424365How do i find a girl like her?
>>728424987god i hate japanese mocap acting
>>728425365Because Yeven indoctrination is heavy. He needed to wait until the right moment to tell them else they probably wouldn't have believed it
>>728425365what would be the point? they'd either call him a crazy liar or believe him and yuna would refuse to do the pilgrimage knowing she'd have to sacrifice a guardian and would become all depressed. He wanted them to see it with their own eyes so they could make a change.
>>728424365for the lulz
>>728426951tfw no tifa wife
>>728426904sell candy
>>728427187i'd equip her materias if you get what I mean
Why was Cloud so strong if he wasn't even SOLDIER? I never played the remake, I played the original (well, the platinum version) back in the day and the translation was wacky, didn't understand the Hojo plot. I think he fucked Vincent's mom though.
>>728427292he got mako exposure for years in a tanker after he was captured along zack
During the Nibelheim incident Cloud was Shinra Grunt and hid his face with the helmet. He only showed his face to his mom. When Tifa saw Cloud without the helmet, it was after she was slashed by Sephiroth and didn't remember or deem it real
>>728427292Because Sephiroth died Hojo tried to make another one and while he technically succeeded it turned Cloud into a drooling retard until he met Tifa again
>>728427292After Nibelheim incident Cloud and Zack were captured and kept in Nibelheim mansion basement in tubes and Cloud got injected with mako and Jenova cells.Vincent in past had hots for Lucrecia, Shinra scientist lady, but Lucrecia chose Hojo and had baby with Hojo. Vincent opposed Hojo planning to experiment with the fetus so Hojo shot Vincent, put him in the coffin and modified Vincent's body.
>>728424365Why make her tits bigger? Theyre already perfect as is.
>>728427390>>728427390>that music crescendo. >noejima will bring some stupid ass dogshit like the anime oav where sephiroth just jumped off the bridge. YES I AM MAD.
>>728427642Crisis Core version is most likely going by what we've seen so far, this moent is 1:1
>>728427292Hojo talked Lucrecia (Vincents waifu) into implanting a Jenova egg into her womb then plapped her.
>>728427642has anything in the franchise ever topped that segment? i'd say the only contender is X when tidus learn what awaits yuna. But yeah you just know they will piss all over it, probably shove a bunch of battles in there as well.
>>728424567
>>728427292>didn't understand the Hojo plot. I think he fucked Vincent's mom though.Oh boy. Sit down because this is a lot. So Dr. Gast, Shinra scientist, found a corpse within the Northern Crater. The corpse was obviously not human, so Dr. Gast assumed that it must be a Cetra. The corpse was brought to the then HQ of the science department within the Nibelheim Mansion. Thus began the Jenova Project. Legend says that the Cetra were the only ones who could find The Promised Land, a place with endless bounty from the land, because only they could hear the voices of The Planet. So if they used a Cetra corpse to artificially create someone with the gifts of the Cetra, then that child could lead Shinra to the Promised Land. Which is profoundly evil. It's like reading scripture where Heaven is described as having streets paved with gold. So rather than use that as motivation to live a sanctified life, instead you go searching for the body of Jesus. So you can genetically recreate a clone that can lead you to Heaven, where you can send an army to harvest the gold.
>>728424497>you and i go to a baseball game>i tell a story about how I hit the game winning home run>despite the fact that we were spectators>you're so retarded that my accurate retelling of the scenario makes you genuinely believe I was playingExplain this.
>>728427858i dunno i was young and in middle school highschool when i played the game. probably just another jaded anon looking for something to get mad about like time jannies. the only thing that could top that if sephiroth loses his shit like chuck mcgill.
>>728427630I miss Tifa's canonically sized cannons.
>>728428020nigga this was 10 years ago, her town was burned to the ground and she almost died, she obviously had trauma as well.
>>728427909Oh yeah, they thought Jenova was a cetra but she actually wasn't, Aeris was.I should play the remakes, I did buy them on ps5 but I'd rather play them on PC, every time I tried to play the first one I dropped it since it felt like it wasn't respecting my time and had a lot of filler. Or play the original again, surely there's better translations out now. Fun fact here, I actually never beat the game, I think I made it to the end underleveled and I sucked because it would take me like an hour to defeat bizarro Sephiroth just to get oneshot by the angel one. I was told that the turks were a dps check and if you could beat them you could beat the whole game, I did beat them but never beat Sephiroth. I had a similar problem with FFX, I beat Yunalesca with smart tactics but I got walled by a boss later on, I think it was Seymour.
>>728428160Not remembering that Cloud was a blue suit vs a SOLDIER is a big discrepancy, trauma or not.
>>728427909So what happened? Where did Dr. Gast go? And how did Hojo end up in charge of Dr. Gast's project? Well at some point Dr. Gast bumped into Ifalna. Ifalna was a true Cetra. The last. And she could hear the voices of the Planet clearly. She and Dr. Gast had a conversation where Ifalna explained the true nature of Jenova. Jenova is not an Ancient. She arrived on the Planet after a Meteor hit. I personally think this was a result of the last time Black Materia was used but I digress. Jenova is a shapeshifting alien that the Cetra called "The Crisis from the Sky." And I cannot explain the horror of Jenova better than Ifalna herself>Ifalna>The Planet tried to persuade the Cetra to leave the Knowlespole, but...>Gast>Ifalna... Let's take a break.>[She turns to him and shakes her head.]>Ifalna>I'm all right... When the Cetra... were preparing to part with the land they loved...>That's when it appeared!>It looked like... our... our dead mothers... and our dead brothers. Showing us spectres of their past.>Gast>Who is the person that appeared at the North Cave? I haven't any idea.>Ifalna>That's when the one who injured the Planet... or the 'crisis from the sky', as we call him, came.>[She buries her face in her hands.]>He first approached as a friend, deceived them, and finally...... gave them the virus.>The Cetra were attacked by the virus and went mad... transforming into monsters.>[She drops to her knees.]>Then, just as he had at the Knowlespole.>He approached other Cetra clans...... infecting them with... the virus...
>>728427858They haven't really fucked around in that way with flashbacks, only what's currently happening in the story. Pretty sure they've also said something about not changing the past in interviews
>>728424567>mfw see women more beautifuller than Tifa on a regular basis IMC (in my cunt)
>>728428213Some of my school friends didn't understand your characters get stronger from fighting the random battles so they avoided getting EXP and then got walled by the bosses. It's alright to grind random battles to become stronger.Only do the EXP avoiding on games you already beaten and know what to expect.
>>728428105Yuffie is us
>>728425365They needed to decide on it themselves.
One of these days a cute girl will appear in my life and put my memories back together and I'll discover I'm actually important and cool
>>728428257She didn't know it was him. He kept his helmet on so he wouldn't embarrass himself coming home as a grunt when he told her he'd be a SOLDIER.
>>728428257how would she know? he never told her he didn't make it.
>>728428582This but unironically.
>>728428643Zack was walking around unmasked. She'd know that wasn't him.
>>728424365what's the best tifa video?
>>728424365Why did Ovelia come at Delita with a prison shank
>>728428261>>728427909Thank you for the recapHonestly it's a good story. My favorite FF is still 9 since it's one of the few ones I actually beat.Well, christmas break is soon, I''ll play the original and if they're on sale on steam I'll buy them there and play them all when they're all out.
>>728428261Horrified at the realization that he just gave that monster to Shinra to reproduce, Dr. Gast immediately quit and hid away with Ifalna. Ifalna and Gast had a baby, Aerith. And they wouldve lived their lives together. But Hojo found them. He killed Dr. Gast and stole Ifalna and baby Aerith to use in his experiments. I want to be clear here. Hojo STOLE THE TAPES! He knew from the beginning what Jenova was and that it would never produce what Shinra was looking for. And he continued with the Jenova project anyway. While putting Ifalna under torturous experiments, he worked with Jenova's corpse. And he had the idea to put Jenova cells into a growing fetus after conception. Which he convinced Lucretia, Vincent's crush, to contribute her body. The child produced was Sephiroth, meaning Hojo is Sephiroth's biologically father. Hojo fucks. Obviously Sephiroth never displayed the power of the Cetra but he was uniquely powerful and vicious in battle. Enough for Shinra to greenlight the SOLDIER project, where strong candidates would be drenched with Mako and given Jenova cells. But while SOLDIER members were strong, Sephiroth was always a tier above. Enough for him to know he was different from everyone else but not know why. Well in Nibelheim he found out why. He found Dr. Gast's erroneous notes that called Jenova a Cetra as well as the research notes that lead to his creation and made the assumption that he himself was a Cetra. And in a rage that he wasn't human, the Nibelheim disaster happened.
>>728428213>I beat Yunalesca with smart tactics but I got walled by a boss later on, I think it was Seymour.if you beat yunalesca there is no boss that can wall you at that point (there are hardly any left), there is only one seymour incarnation left and he is a total push over
you dorks probably don't know this but women, especially hot ones, can immediately tell when you are putting a fake character to impress them. she probably thought cloud was doing the same and didn't want to hurt his ego by outright calling him out.
>>728424483Cloud didn't give Sephiroth the Black Materia by choice, it's Sephiroth enacting his will through Cloud by manipulating the JENOVA cells in his body.
>>728428673>She'd know that wasn't him.wasn't who? this was the first time she met zack, they were buddies or anything, she was just a guide. The point is that Cloud somehow knew everything that happened that day even though he wasn't supposed to be there. She is just as confused as he is.
>>728428826yea but why does a gay anon tell us this?
>>728428893The only SOLDIERs there were Zack and Sephiroth. She should know that neither of those people were Cloud. She's literally in close proximity with both of them during the flashback.
>>728428826>jumping on the chance to dunk on the chuds by sharing us his shitty fanficalright
>>728428682HydraFX? or maybe Nagoonimation
>>728424497I prefer the self-doubt theory over Tifa somehow being a super shrink and hyper-attuned to Cloud's mental state. Rebirth Tifa especially has some confidence issues.
>>728425365Because the big plan required them to stay on the path of the pilgrimage
>>728428826It was explained in Tifa mending Cloud's mind. When Tifa found Cloud in Midgar train station, Cloud was drooling veggie. Tifa was distraught and suddenly Cloud came together and pit up the cocky ex-Soldier act. Tifa was afraid if she contradicted Cloud's story, Cloud would go back to drooling veggie.In Rebirth Tifa calls out the Cloud's story and Cloud voices out maybe Tifa isnt real leading to Tifa lift her top to show the scar from Sephiroth's slash
>>728424365/v/ don't want to admit this but japs are actually really bad at storytelling.
>>728424365cloud's memories of nibelheim literally aren't fake, he was actually there and described everything perfectlymeanwhile Tifa's own memories of the event are cloudy, especially near the end where she got gutted and saw Cloud's face as she passed out, so hearing Cloud recount the story in detail he couldn't possibly know without being there made Tifa question her own version and hesitant to discuss the discrepencies
>>728424567Real women were a mistake.
>>728428960are you dumb? she obviously knew that when that happened, the point is it was 10 years ago, she got traumatized from being almost killed that day and losing her home and cloud somehow retells the story with perfect accuracy
>>728429165No, the writers are dumb. It's impossible out of 10 for her not to remember.
>>728428756>I want to be clear here. Hojo STOLE THE TAPES! He knew from the beginning what Jenova was and that it would never produce what Shinra was looking forDude, he's actually the bad guy. It's not Sephiroth, it's all Hojo's fault. That guy is actually unhinged evil.>Obviously Sephiroth never displayed the power of the Cetra but he was uniquely powerful and vicious in battle. Enough for Shinra to greenlight the SOLDIER project, where strong candidates would be drenched with Mako and given Jenova cells. But while SOLDIER members were strong, Sephiroth was always a tier aboveI played crisis core and I found it funny how Sephiroth was above Angeal and the other guy with the fire sword. By the way I beat that game at least, changed my opinion on Zack, he's cool.>And in a rage that he wasn't human, the Nibelheim disaster happened.I sympathize with him for that, honestly. He still got what he deserved for how he reacted though.>>728428773I don't actually remember where I got walled, I know after Yunalesca you get on Sin? Or something. I remember the mobs there were actually fucking strong, it was like a cloudy place but that was over 20 years ago so I don't remember much. But yeah, never beat it. I might just suck.
>>728428020That isn't what happens though, this is a case of you being certain that you went to a game with a different friend and then I say it was me and perfectly recount the events of the day that I wouldn't know without being there
>>728428673When people are talking about Tifa's inability to determine fact from fiction, they're referring to this section of dialogue>Tifa>Actually, it's been seven years.>You got your wish and joined SOLDIER, quit after the Sephiroth incident, and now you're a mercenary...>You told me a lot about what happened after you left Nibelheim...>But...>...Something's wrong. I felt there was something strange about the things you talked about.>All the things you didn't know that you should, And other things you shouldn't know that you did...>I wanted to make sure...>But then I heard... you were going far away...>And I didn't want that...>...I didn't know what to do. So, I thought I needed more time.>And that's why I told you about the AVALANCHE job. I wanted to be with you, watch you.This is Tifa remembering finding Cloud on the train tracks. Tifa knows what happened back then but Cloud's recollection of the same events were so detailed yet so different that Tifa didn't know what to make of it. So she kept quiet. Told Cloud about AVALANCHE. And joined him to watch over him. But Tifa knows he's lying. She'll even lie about knowing Zack, such as in webm related
>>728429367When you remove all impossibilities (that Cloud was the SOLDIER), what remains (that Cloud was a Shinra blue suit) must be the truth. It's bad writing that she didn't make that connection. She couldn't figure out how he knew, but she knew there were blue suits around, and that should have been enough to piece it together before that conversation.
She didn't want to hurt us
>>728429532lol okay mister detective
>>728429532How is Cloud being the SOLDIER an impossibility unless Tifa is literally incapable of being wrong about anything
>>728429532no, they were childhood friends and haven't seen each others for years at this point, it would have made no sense to her that she wouldn't rush to greet her and instead remain hooded.
>>728424365those boba aren't fake...
>>728429532characters not having perfect knowledge and judgment isn't bad writing, and is in fact a pillar of story telling
>>728429315Speaking of Crisis Core, before Sephiroth learned what he was, we get to see his reaction to branch projects that were going on at the same time. Which is that he fucking hated them. He found everything about those projects to be disgusting. Which reinforces why he broke down after going to Nibelheim. He's one of them. And he just couldn't accept that.
>>728429683and it's not like she took it for gospel, she is clearly conflicted from what she thinks she remembers and what cloud tells
It's bad writing that all the other characters in Sherlock Holmes can't piece together what happened even though they all have the same info he does.
>>728429629The SOLDIERs were Zack and Sephiroth. Zack and Sephiroth look nothing like Cloud. She should have known these were dudes she never met.>>728429683It makes Tifa stupid, and if that was the case, Brianna White should have played her in the remake.>>728429649I never said that. It's just obvious that the two SOLDIERs (the only two SOLDIERs there) weren't Cloud. If he knew those details, he HAD to be one of the blue suits by simple process of elimination.
>>728429747he has no personality. hes just a gay awkard person like compilation intended.
>>728429747>asset flip the remake>churn out this shitcrisis core fans really are just perma cucks
>>728429786That doesn't remotely answer how it's impossible that it could have been Cloud and she has incorrectly remembered it
>>728429747Kinda reminds me of metal gear solid and how big boss views his clones.I think it's a valid reaction.
>>728429786> never said that. It's just obvious that the two SOLDIERs (the only two SOLDIERs there) weren't Cloud. If he knew those details, he HAD to be one of the blue suits by simple process of elimination.nigga, cloud was even more traumatized and got fucking drugged for years and watched his best friend get slaughtered, the whole point was he took zack's identity as his own.
>>728424365man they really ruined tifa by making her look more asian.really should have kept the eurasian thing upped more.
>>728429905I think they did a good job translating everyone to high fidelity
>>728430001yeah the remakes themselves are garbage but the graphics are solid
>>728429854It's a big detail.>meet two in-world superheroes>they're not anyone you ever met>fast forward 7 years>misremember that it's your childhood friendThat doesn't make sense unless she had amnesia.>>728429892Cloud was a poser and a liar. Nobody's arguing that. Tifa knew it immediately, but she was like "how could you know this stuff, though?" The only people there were Zack, Sephiroth, Tifa, and some blue suits. If she knew for a fact that Zack and Sephiroth were the only SOLDIERs, she should have immediately known Cloud was a blue suit from the fact that he knew how things happened.>>728429905Nigga you gay. Original Tifa was outdone by Rinoa and Rikku, but NuTifa is easily a top 3 waifu.
>>728430074>meet two in-world superheroesOnly Sephiroth was well known at the time. Zack was a nobody
>>728430149He was still a SOLDIER. That's functionally a Shinra superhero.
>>728430074>Cloud was a poser and a liar. Nobody's arguing that. Tifa knew it immediately, but she was like "how could you know this stuff, though?" The only people there were Zack, Sephiroth, Tifa, and some blue suits. If she knew for a fact that Zack and Sephiroth were the only SOLDIERs, she should have immediately known Cloud was a blue suit from the fact that he knew how things happened.no, like I said early two things would contradict this reasoning in tifa's mind: first is that cloud didn't greet her after years of being away, second is that current cloud is as strong as a SOLDIER. It make zero logical sense for her to picture him as one of the grunts.
>>728428261>>728427909>posting fanfiction
>>728430074You are still not answering the fucking question. There are two conflicting accounts of the incident, one must be wrong. How is it NOT POSSIBLE for Tifa's to be the one that is wrong? The only thing that can back up her side is "well I would surely have remembered if it was Cloud" whereas Cloud is presenting facts that he should not know otherwise.
>>728430257he does it in every FF threads, it's fucking bizarre.
>>728430257What part of that was fanfiction? Because all of that is in OG
>>728424637>>728426472>>728428682https://files.catbox.moe/vgkh41.mp4
>>728430250Would you greet your childhood crush during COVID if you told her you were going off to be a Navy fighter pilot, and you saw her from behind your mask as you bagged her groceries 2 years later?>>728430321The reality is that she wasn't wrong. That's why. She's not retarded, even if the writers may be. She knows what happened.
>>728430397holy
>>728430414>Would you greet your childhood crush during COVID if you told her you were going off to be a Navy fighter pilot, and you saw her from behind your mask as you bagged her groceries 2 years later?yeah I'm done, you're constantly grasping at straws with retarded analogies. I concede the argument.
>>728430178No it isn't, the vast majority of SOLDIER are nameless, faceless goons. Even as a 1st Class Zack is fairly unknown in and around Shinra's base of operations to the point that fanclubs for other 1sts assume he's just some guy
>>728430074>Nigga you gay. Original Tifa was outdone by Rinoa and Rikku, but NuTifa is easily a top 3 waifu.No I just don't like women that look like plastic sex dolls.OG Tifa was based on german women, with only dark hair and eyes to match her mother's blatant asian ancestry.she looks horrible now, like some random korean woman with plastic surgery.
>>728430482You're just defending bad writing because it was your first RPG. Accept that nips have never produced anything good and life will be easier.
>>728430525Every SOLDIER we've seen up to this point in the original or remakes has had flair and unconventional weaponry and outfits. They're superheroes.
>>728430414Ok so you're just incapable of answering the question
>>728430605What about this guy
>>728424365She is scared Cloud won't fuck her if she red pills him.
>>728430605No they absolutely did not, almost all of them wear helmets covering their faces
>>728430549my first rpg was pic but like I said, take your win>Accept that nips have never produced anything good and life will be easier.holy shit why didn't you start with this so we wouldnt have wasted our fucking time?
>>728430337you're literally writing quotes not found in the original game.that makes it fanfiction.
>>728430623>"why won't you answer this?">answer>"t-that doesn't count!">>728430661Carrying a lance and wearing Piccolo's outfit. Looks pretty unconventional to me.>>728430696>helmets make them look just like regular troops
>>728430525Even in OG>Sephiroth>...this isn't a typical mission.>Cloud>Good!>Sephiroth>Why do you say that?>Cloud>I joined SOLDIER so I could be like you.>But by the time I made First Class, the war was already over.>My big hopes of becoming a hero like you ended with the war.>That's why I always sign up whenever there's a big mission. Kind of a way to prove myself.>Say, how do you feel, MISTER Sephiroth?Cloud is speaking in Zack's place here but even if you ignore CC, by the time Zack got promoted the war was already over. Zack is just some guy as far as everyone else knows. In fact you can find regular degular SOLDIER 1st Class in game. It's these dudes. Literal faceless goons.
>>728430738What are you talking about? Did you want me to include every line of dialogue there in a brief run down? Point out one. Be specific.
>>728427292Cloud still went through general physical training, but got passed over for SOLDIER mako treatment because the pre-screening noted him as a probable zombiethen Hojo collected him as a personal guinea pig, and he went through mako treatments anyway, and only temporarily avoided going zombie mode by developing DID instead
>>728430661What's HIS story.
>>728430747It's supposed to be a sword but they didn't have the polygons or some shit>Piccolo's outfitkek
>>728430747>how is this not possible>well it ends up not being the case so it was never possible to considerThat's not an answer, you are an utter dimwit.
>>728430881cool guy and doesn't afriad of anything
>>728430889It still looks dramatically different from blue suits. SOLDIERs are the best of the best, and even a lower rank one is (lore-wise, not necessarily mechanically) badass.
>>728430661>remake gets announcedall right were going to get this guy in hd and looking cool. >get some faggot bike guy insteaddogshit. >fight some soldier 3rd class in remake 2>hes some blubbering pussyoof
>>728430881He is avenging his brother, whom Cloud not only killed but stole the sword he had gifted him just days prior for his birthday.
>>728430661>>728430752>>728430889THESE GUYS LOOK COOL AS FUCK. what a based design. >ff8>galbadia chuds look exactly the same>no AURAfucking strange how that works
>>728431046Shinra is really weird about their use of SOLDIER. They were used in the war with Wutai and then after that they were used to guard specific locations like the tower. You figure they'd just deploy SOLDIER to deal with AVALANCHE. Barret even wonders if Shinra sent SOLDIER after them because that'd make sense. But no, instead Shinra just dropped a city on them.
>>728427292
Tifa's uncertainty and lack of confidence makes her relatable. She's cute as a button and also horny, which makes her a delight.
>>728428582I recently had a "absent grandfather returns after 30 years to give you a million dollar inheritance" anime moment so it could happen to you.
>>728430397This will make a fine addition to my collection.
>>728431202They wanted to drop the plate, AVALANCHE were just a good excuseSOLDIER are just an army, they have the Turks for more covert or internal matters
>>728431242Also, Tifa huge boobs and her big boobs make her really boobs.
>>728431262I'm wondering who I should give my money to if I die or something. I barely know my nephews and nieces because my siblings were pretty adamant about me not having any major interactions with them, guessing due to "socially awkward nerd" was a major turn off to them early on.
>>728431108Remake had 3rds with some pretty cool voice linesThe 2nds in Rebirth are mega cucks though you straight bulldoze 'em and I don't think they said anything cool
>>728430818I'll make this simpler for you kid.You cited numerous quotes that were not found in the original game and you said NUMEROUS things that are literally just your opinion and were either>wrongor>so ambiguous anyone can make a counter statement and be just as correct as youso fix your fucking life.>>728430661people are taking the piss.those guys are superhuman because if you would of fought them at the start of the game you would of gotten your shit wrecked, by the time you actually start fighting you are also superhuman.his whole thing about all of them having flair and whatnot is also full of shit.
>>728424567She's literally an airbrushed copy of anri okita
>>728431403Pull a "blue prince" where you give money to one of them, claim they're your favorite but they have to do something retarded like find the treasure you buried when you were six (existence of treasure is optional)
>>728431337Well that and also President Shinra assumed that they were close to finding The Promised Land and therefore Neo-Midgar. Which is an insane stance to take. Midgar was still technically Shinra's seat of power but it seems like President Shinra didn't really give a fuck about it.
>>728428682Foursome with Aerith, since there's some nice meaty groping and nipple sucking.
>>728431469Name one. Seriously. I said one personal opinion in all of that which I also cited as such to differentiate it from the rest of the rundown. Point out something that didn't happen in the OG or shut up.
>>728431469Nobody said they aren't superhuman
>>728431386>Also, Tifa huge boobs and her big boobs make her really boobs.
>>728431462cool helmet.
What does the Lifestream even do?
>>728430397this kind of dumb shit is a blight on r34
>>728431723It streams life
>>728431723kill humanity for uh dogs and birds.
>>728431723whatever the plot requires
>>728431469>his whole thing about all of them having flair and whatnot is also full of shit.Yet, every single SOLDIER we've seen had flair and looked very different from regular troops. But that's bullshit because you say so. Even though it's reality.
>>728424365Woman moment, quite realistic actually
>>728431723Soul recycling to perpetuate a steady stream of life
>>728431484Now try bringing up a non-plastic tranny example lmfao
>>728431815you're shitposting because the original game literally shows Soldiers and they look like eachother and you can fight them forever : ^ )i accept you have no argument.>>728431601>being this mad because people don't want to play with you>>728431617there is literally multiple people saying they aren't even Soldiers, so that kind of implies they aren't superhuman by their own conversation.
>>7284318154 SOLDIERs that we've seen have looked different from other troops. Even Zack is just wearing a standard uniform but without his helmet.
>>728431923>the original game literally shows Soldiers and they look like eachotherYet they don't look like regular troops. You know a SOLDIER when you see one. So, you're a liar and a poor.
>>728431923I gave you the chance to back up your shit and you couldn't even humor me with one. Get the fuck out of here. You could never live up to this guy >>728431723. At least he tries.
>>728428261>She arrived on the Planet after a Meteor hit. I personally think this was a result of the last time Black Materia was used but I digress.Jenova came to the planet on a meteor that created the northern crater. Lower case m. The cetra never used Meteor. Upper case M. The Cetra has the materia for Meteor but understood it meant the end of the planet and hid it when Jenova eventually learned of it.
>>728431856So do people get pregnant and give birth in FF7, or is it just immaculate conception for everyone?
>>728431948clouds outfit is just a modified soldiers outfit, the fact no one points it out is weird.
>>728429649>they were childhood friendsWrong, they didn't even interact with each other until the water tower scene.
>>728431981but you can't tell one soldier from another : ^ )because they all look the same.>>728431997still seething multiple minutes later?
>>728428105I want to fug Yuffie.
>>728431981They have a different uniform. Wow. Basically the Justice League.
>>728432065>transmoticon
>>728431998>hinging the entire argument on a capitalized letterSasuga. You got me. Except that I specifically said "A" Meteor not title card Meteor. Still you're better than this guy >>728431923at least even if your argument is still stupid.
>>728432141What do YOU think the Black Materia did?
Wot does the loifstraim ayven dew, mate?
>>728432141>>728431998But while I'm on the subject since we're going on about pedantry>hid it when Jenova eventually learned of it.Where are you getting this? Because Ifalna never says this nor does anyone else. Unless you mean current day but by that point Jenova had been inactive for 2000 years
>>728432284>Wait a minute, that post...
>>728432107>knowing what /lgbt/ uses :^) says a lot about you>>728432141kek this dude so mad he is willing to suck this other dude off now lmaolike do you work for sony?you shouldn't be this emotionally invested kid.
>>728432084>fug YuffieTifa's right there, you know.
>>728432440so?
>>728432490I guess I'm just perplexed at how you are heterosexual and yet not deferential to the girl with the biggest boobs.
>>728432084KH3 Yuffie was an eye opening experience.
>>728433010It's called "having awful taste".
>>728432345The walls of the temple that is the black materia.
>>728433139Yuffie can do adult stuff just fine.
>>728433169I mean her design. Her pants in KH3 have a zip that goes from front to back and she looks incredible.
>>728424428I am surprised by what's up with Early-game Cloud for sure...
>>728433219 Honestly, same. They really nailed that subtle unhinged vibe-dude’s clearly overcompensating HARD and it only gets more apparent once Sephiroth enters the chat. It’s like watching a guy pretending to hold it together while silently screaming the whole time. Peak tragic protag energy.
My headcanon was that the black materia was formed by the Cetra unintentionally. After the war with Jenova their grief, despair, and anger were so strong, the lifestream formed it in autonomous response with the ability to call a meteor (Jenova) because that was the source of their unkempt rage.Ashamed of their unintentional creation, they hid it away....but I guess some space niggas who otherwise have no access to the lifestream somehow created it and just coincidentally decided on a meteor because it looks cool, i guess, oh and then they somehow never got the chance to use it because .03s after creating it the cetra busted down the door and stole it...>mfwHonestly? Fuck the Pursuit of Sephiroth. The whole thing is nonsense. Shinra and the ecological elements should've been the plot of FF7, not this gay anime swordsman schizophrenic bullshit.>captcha: 2WANK
>>728433169indeedhttps://v.sankakucomplex.com/data/96/d5/96d56ec842e424f60187d8d16d8fd6dd.mp4?e=1765699425&m=hDRatAPjVgOe3fFYk77ZRw&expires=1765699425&token=w48QX5w-rNr7tWEEtYaBgtnEf10tPdKb9tgAsImbZ40https://r34i.paheal-cdn.net/ea/28/ea28356548e26dc0149d9d0f87845649
>>728433154Where's Jenova?
>>728432141>She arrived on the Planet after a Meteor hit. >I personally think this was a result of the last time Black Materia was used but I digress.>RESULT OF THE LAST TIME BLACK MATERIA WAS USEDWhat, I'm supposed to assume you weren't talking about Meteor when you're talking about Meteor's materia? The northern crater is from Jenova's arrival. She knew nothing of materia when she came to Gaia. Gaia isn't her first planet full of Baja Blast. Just the last one in a series before she was stopped. When she first started infecting the planet, it started fighting back. It always does. Only this time there were people using crystallized lifestream to throw fireballs. She went "Woah shit, that is cool. I have to figure out how they do that." So she assumes the form of a human and lived with the Cetra to learn how to do that. Then and only then did the black materia become relevant, when Jenova learned it existed.
>>728433457Speaking of schizo bullshit what the fuck are you rambling about?
>>728433153Faggot
>>728433609The plot of FF7 and to a lesser extent its abortion of a sequel
How bullshit and retarded is the story of this game that after three decades you people still argue over the most basic parts of it?
>>728424365Cloud was already broken beyond repair not even Tifa could fix him
>>728433457The planet doesn't make materia. Not like that, anyway. It doesn't go "ow this hurts. Time to make crystals for the people on the planet to fight back with while I chill." When a planet wants to defend itself, it creates Weapons.
>>728433709Perfectly retarded I dare say
>>728433709The story is incredibly simple, some people are just retards and others have forgotten details crucial to understanding how things worked after 25 years
>>728433571Yes because Aerith is able to explain what the Black Materia is and what it does as well as the mural depicting those events>Aeris>...this must be magic. Just what Sephiroth was saying.>The Ultimate Destructive Magic, Meteor.>It finds small drifting planets with its magic.>And then collides with them. This Planet might get wiped out entirely...So it's not a leap to say it was used before
>>728433816So are you saying it was Meteor or not?
>>728424567I swear anons that spout bullshit like this are either legitimately gay or closeted femanons who are jealous
>>728433816So Meteor isn't strictly creating a big ball of rock and fire, it's a gravitational anomaly that pulls the closest one?
>>728433902Was Black Materia used before? Yes. Is Black Materia the reason Jenova landed on The Planet? No or at least nothing that canonically says that. It'd make the most sense if that were true. But until someone explicitly says that, it's just conjecture at best
>>728431892Random assorted seething is not an argument
>>728428105I’m still choosing Yuffie, Tifa is soooo vanilla of a choice
>>728433709I love these threads. I truly do. I'll spend all day every day squabbling about the events in FFVII. Love it every time.
>>728429605Yeah that’s right cloud rest on those soft pillows~
>>728433816It is a leap, the Black Materia was produced by the planet and the Cetra had the ability to directly convene with the planet. They don't need to test it out to know what it does and upon recieving it they decided to seal it the hell away.
>>728428756Cool recap dude,I didnt play the original and only played remake and rebirth and couldnt understand shit of what was going on most of the time.
>>728430001The characters in the OG had bigger anime eyes
>>728433764Yes and no. Materia, or rather the "Magic" within it is formed as a result of the lifestream accessing the present knowledge of the user, or programmer, so to speak. To that end, the lifestream does have an active role in what a materia does, which means it really should maybe have a failsafe incase somebody say, wants to impact the planet with a celestial body. But hey, who am I to judge?On the other hand, in the original game the Cetra refer to the white and black materia as being given to them by the planet (the lifestream) implying they were already pre-programmed with Holy (which is redundant and pointless) and Meteor, but then again, the Cetra are vapid, lying gypsies, so fuck it.The overarching point is that the black materia is a shit plot device and is made (somehow) even worse in Rebirth. Oh and the lifestream is retarded, in any context.
>>728434023I SEE YOUR SHAME You just lost the game.
>>728433991>Was Black Materia used before? YesNTA, but it was? I don't remember this part. It's been awhile.
>>728429605>Have a friend with cow tits>She knows of my obsession with tiddies>Always makes a point to hug me when I'm sitting down so I get a face full of titsMan I miss those days. Fukkin love tiddies, yo.
>>728425365The plan required the pilgrimage and it probably wouldnt have mattered and/or caused more harm since he probably wouldve been hunted down or completely discredited. He wanted Yuna and co. to see for themselves.
>>728430397Imagine if her tits were lactating with every pump
>>728434315Materia grants the holder access to a piece of knowledge from within the Lifestream, they're all preprogrammed
>>728434202The Cetra wouldn't need a Materia to use Meteor>Cloud>By the way... Why is it that when you use materia you can also use magic too?>Sephiroth>You were in SOLDIER and didn't even know that?>...the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients is held in the materia.>Anyone with this knowledge can freely use the powers of the Land and the Planet. That knowledge interacts between ourselves and the planet calling up magic...... or so they say.>Cloud>Magic...... a mysterious power...The Cetra do not require a Fire Materia to shoot fire from their hands, they can just do it naturally because of their relationship with The Planet. That knowledge issues contained within memories locked within Materia, which is how humans who use it know how to shoot Fire from their hands. Conversely, whoever created the Black Materia already had the knowledge of how to do it because the Black Materia exists. It wasn't theory. It's not a leap to say that it happened before, the Cetra said "holy fuck this can never happen again" and then they put it in the Temple of the Ancients with a big ass warning on the walls depicting what will happen if the Black Materia is used.
>>728430706Speaking of Phantasy Star, Nei’s death was way head of its time before Aerith’s
>>728434610>whoever created the Black MateriaThe Planet did. The same as the White Materia, the same as the Weapons and the same as Chaos.
>>728431728Still better than the all Futa slop that pollutes the damn website, I still can’t figure out how to filter out that shit
>>728434870>-futanariFuck I'm like some kind of genius
>>728434578Not exactly, but sort of. When somebody uses a Materia, you're accessing knowledge that was programmed into it. When you program a Materia, the Lifestream is accessing a combination your will and knowledge to achieve that end. All Materia, naturally-forming and artificial, are blank. The only ambiguous exceptions are the White and Black in the original game, which are now blank "sacred" materia in Project Remake.So the question kind of remains; who the hell programmed the White and Black in the OG? Hence, my headcanon; that it was unintentionally (or maybe even intentionally, in a moment of weakness) created by the Cetra themselves.
>>728430752>>728431198The 1st class you find when you go to Midgar in Part 3 are going to be over the top like Roche
>>728434994nah
>>728434919>futa not tagged as futa>not futa tagged as futaspecific tags are always a fucking gamble
>>728428105>>728433010Why is she flaunting her armpits?
>>728434985The Planet programmed them and gave them as gifts to the Cetra who immediately rightly liked White and hated Black
>>728424365So uh nobody posting the source of OPs pic?
>>728424365why did FF6-10 have so much of this memory wiping shit? if you're forgetting details like that then that means these characters have literal brain damage / CTE
>>728435301I mean
>>728435301Well Tifa did get lacerated from collar to hip by Sephiroth
>>728434610There is no evidence that the Cetra had the ability to cast magic without materia. Their ambiguous connection to the lifestream is just that; ambiguous.Cetra and Human are not separate entities. This historical account is their own, written from a bias of spiritual narcissism and disdain for their counterparts.They learned how to program materia and thought they were special. They weren't. This is a major theme of Aerith's entire character, her ability to cast aside her heritage and embrace the good in all peoples and recognize that The Promised Land is an idea that (You) form for yourself, not some Eden created by the planet for its self-proclaimed "chosen" people.All life is "blessed" and able to convene with the lifestream if they will it. Ancients were fucking crackheads, literally. They were obsessed with crystals.
>>728435356imaging being such a chad that being a vegetable isn't enough to deter giga stacy
>>728435385I know it's fictional and all but I'm pretty sure that's not where her brain is
>>728435301>FF 6Huh who had memory issues in 6?
>>728435510Not a 6fag but even I know it's Terra
>>728435167Well, like I said. It's a bit ambiguous. If you take the Ancients' historical account, then yes. On the other, there's no record of the lifestream ever doing this ever again, or any discernible reason that it would create either. Holy is so ambiguous that any blank materia could effectively function the same, and Meteor is self-harming. Neither really make sense, so I like to imagine that the Cetra had some role in the black materia's creation, given their mental state and the symbolism, it just reads a lot better than the nonsense both "canon" interpretations have provided.
>>728435510I believe the mind control crown that Terra was forced to wear made her lose a lot of her memories. Unlike the other examples though, I don't think Terra actually gets them back either.
>>728424365Cloud was unknowingly gaslighting her about what she remembered
>>728435423Except that humans cannot use magic. At all. Aerith can't use magic but that's only because she can't speak to the Planet until just before her death. But we know the ability exists because Materia exists. Which means someone, somewhere, at some time knew how to use magic. Or Deathblow. Or how to use monster magic. Whether you think the Cetra were the chosen ones or just conniving assholes, on some level they held abilities that humans are incapable of doing.
>>728435635You're literally just discarding the explanation that the game gives to your question because you would "like to believe" something else so why the fuck even ask in the first place?
>>728435635>Meteor is self-harmingThe Planet made Chaos specifically to wipe out as much life as possible as quickly as possibleIt makes self-harming things sometimes
I only have one issue with FF7 rebirth and it was how they managed to make Chadley even more fucking annoying with the addition of Mai, like holy fuck I don't need an annoying piece of shit constantly talking during the battle missions
>>728435301She didn't forget details, she just didn't say anything. Doubted her memories, but didn't forget.
>>728424365First of all, Cloud was reciting events that, by her recollection, he shouldn't have been able to recall, so she wasn't certain she was right.Second, she could tell he was a little unstable and didn't know how to approach the subject.Third, she was mainly happy to just have him back.
>>728435720Magic is a result of the lifestream manipulating nature via materia for the purpose by which the original user/programmed willed. That's it. Magic and Materia in FF7 are not separate concepts. Person's Will + Crystal Ball + Metaphysical Green Ribbons = Magic.So when Cloud casts Fire, it's because some nigga needed to cook his meat a thousand years ago and couldn't figure out how to rub two sticks together.Monster Magic is not ever explained, but can easily be deduced logically consistent with the lore when you remember that all monsters are a result of animals exposure to naturally-forming pools of mako, or just exposure to mako in general. I.E. they're living materia at that point.I reiterate: there is no evidence they held any abilities beyond that of humans. There is no description of what "speaking" to the planet even means, and is very well just a spiritual description of talking to aforementioned crystal ball, and having it answer back, which is quite literally what Materia and Magic are, which anybody is capable of.The Ancients were special alright. Special needs.
Fug I lost the posts to (you)The Cetra never used Meteor. The first time Meteor was ever used is when Cloud fell into a coma.
>>728435841This is different, because in theory whether life/organisms exist is irrelevant. The Lifestream will consume them and continue on. It effectively does no harm from The Lifestream's cosmic perspective. The Planet however, which is what Meteor affects, is The Lifestream's home, and more importantly, where it plants said life. So removing that from the equation makes no sense.
>>728436220How did Aerith know when Clay died without an innate ability to speak with the Planet to know he had returned to the Lifestream?
>>728435726I didn't ask anything. I just stated something related to an ongoing conversation. (You) or somebody else started asking questions. Follow the reply chain, dingus.
>>728436401lucky guess :^)
>>728436368It makes plenty of sense, there could come a time when there's a great enough threat to the Planet that it's worth the damage to get rid of it, then the planet will heal itself afterwards. It's left to the Cetra to determine when the situation gets that bad and pull the trigger.
>>728436401The same way Bugenhagen knows random shit and claims to hear the planet. Whether hearing the planet (lifestream) is a metaphor or not is up to you, I suppose, but it certainly isn't unique.Again, all native life is "blessed" and returns to the lifestream. Aerith didn't literally ask about Clay, she saw him in a dream, after HE specifically approached her. Not the other way around.
>>728436518If that's true then why does it bother with WEAPONs? The whole idea kind of makes Omega redundant.
>>728436592Bugenhagen also has books all over the place and has clearly been studying the things he says he knows. Aerith just straight up speaks to a ghost.Humans and Cetra WERE the same, they aren't anymore. Humans abandoned their connection with the Planet.
>>728425603Why should i believe such an absurd statement?
>>728436681Omega is an absolute last ditch effort to salvage the Lifestream. Weapons and the Black materia are pretty much the same but the Weapons don't have the same capacity for collateral damage. For a bad enough threat the strategy would basically be to send out Weapons, if they fail the Cetra cast Meteor and if that takes out a huge chunk of the planet without killing the threat then have Chaos clean up any survivors and leave the planet on Omega.
>>728424987>>728427187why is she wearing a gantz outfit?
>>728425603then she didn't look like that
>>728424365Her cock must be fucking HUGE in the full picture
>>728436704She doesn't speak to it. She just sees it.Speaking of retarded nonsense in gay extended universe novellas nobody asked for, what's the deal with Elmyra's house being able to bloom flowers prior to Aerith's arrival? Oh, and I thought>>728435720 she couldn't speak to the Planet until right before she died, but now she can just do it since she was a child? Which is it, my friend and fellow nigger?How about Sephiroth? He saw a hell of a lot of unrecorded history through exposure to the lifestream, but he's not a Cetra, and actually holds the blood of their most despised enemy. Granted, that whole part of the story is lazy writing so the antagonist has exposition he otherwise has no access to, but is that really the only difference between humans and cetra? How much lifestream you snort? If not, then what the hell is?
Tifa ball
>>728437372Sephiroth fell directly into and should have become a part of the Lifestream and that's the only time he managed to get any information from it
>make a full melee party (non minmaxed) >get walled by evrae >it one shots all the ranged/mages >couldn't go back out to grind at that point that was devastating as a kid, why would they do that shit?
>>728436887Okay, but like, hear me out. You're talking about meteor being used on a specific threat, possibly an individual entity. So, what prevents it from just moving out of the way? Like, that shit takes for fucking ever. A lot of people just straight up pack up and leave Midgar in the final act of FF7. Godzilla's lumbering ass could dodge that stupid ass rock.The idea that Meteor can be used like an AC130 killstreak is hilarious.
>>728437505So... why didn't he? What prevents him, or anybody, from hopping in it? Was that the secret cetra method this whole time, lifestream hot springs? Take a dip and it's official, you have the sixth sense, the shining, AND you're never really gone!
>>728437507are you talking about FF10 bro? you're in the wrong thread
>>728437684mako poisoning or something I dunno
>>728437706I don't know what the fuck he's talking about but not really, considering they take place in the same universe.
>>728437684>why didn't he?I just said he did and if you played the game then I shouldn't have had to>What prevents him, or anybody, from hopping in it?The idea of anybody being able to maintain their own sense of self and not be assimilated was unthinkable until Sephiroth managed itDo you actually have any interest in genuine discussion about this?
>>728435131>>728433010cuz Nomura jizzed onto that thing (since 1993 before ff7 even exists) and wanna shove his secondhanded fap material which ripped off from an actual eroge mixed w/ IRL 14yo CP(plural) into illiterate subcreatures' throat.>>727996569https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/720119167/#q720158848
>>728424365BOOBA
>>728424567I've seen real women more beautiful than her. Go outside more.
>>728437684Jenova cells and being REALLY angry.
>>728436887I'm kinda jumping in here on a tangent but aren't Weapons walking ecological disasters? Like I think they all but sterilize the planet.
Another 12 hours of obsessing over the FF7 characters and correcting everyone who is getting the Jenova lore wrong. Life simply doesn't get any better than this. On my deathbed I will remember these years fondly.
>>728438449Not really, 3 dudes can just jump them
>>728437480editor, make a green cloud shoot out of the butt when the ball spins around
>>728435131>>728438082>Nomura was an OG armpussy chad
Every major problem in FF7 could have been avoided by simply not lying and telling baby Sephiroth that his mother's name was Jenova.It's even worse with Ever Crisis revealing that they gave him pictures of Lucrecia and told him that her name was Jenova.
>>728425365Why didn't anybody before them?They have stopped sin many times right? So surely someone would know about it and told everybody about it.
>>7284387614 times in 1000 years and the people who did it died
>>728438759He was also a Jenova puppet until he entered the Lifestream, which is what helped cure Cloud, too.Hence why afterward, he never "Mother"s anymore.He's just a megalomaniac afterward.
>>728438814Without telling him that Jenova is his mother he wouldn't start going on about Mother to begin with, he only did it when he learned that humans had been fucking over what he thought was his mother. Without that lie in his head he has no reason to care when he spots the name in old journals. Sephiroth himself is never shown being controlled by Jenova's cells, he uses them to control others.
>>728438082Aerith is dead. Tifa is sexier and got dicked down by Cloud underneath the Highwind. Cope and seethe.
>>728439043This is very important to you isn't it
>>728439063It is to you, since you keep spamming shit about an Amiga game nobody ever played and calling everyone "Tifags."
>>728424365Why didn't she tell Barret that he's the worst parent ever?
>>728439139Why would anyone tell that to a member of the team who needs to stay positive? Making Barret depressed serves nobody.
Why didn't Zack just fuck Sephiroth's asshole when he started getting antsy
>>728439194Oh ok it's better to let people be the shittiest parents ever to avoid making them sad by calling them out
What if Sephiroth was TRAPPED and BETRAYED in the Lifestream for 5 years?
What if instead of Jenova it was Freak and instead of jenova cells it was freak cells and instead of putting jenova cells in Sephiroth they put freak cells in sephiroth and he sucked cloud's toes
>>728424365This is too unrealistic bros...How do you expect people to find a girl like this IRL...
>>728439421I don't expect you to, I don't care if you can't, I want to look at Tifa and you can go seethe about it.
>>728439347
>>728438464i almost asked a woman out today. i'm slowly getting better
>>728428960Well, they did kind of purposely make Zack look almost exactly like Cloud with black hair.
>>728439284There's more important things to do than coaching Barret on parenting.
>>728424428>>728424483Why is Cloud such a weak bitch
>>728439784What about before things got bad?What about after it's resolved? He still doesn't do shit to look after "his" daughter post FF7, Tifa and Cloud are left to raise her.
>>728439843He killed the most powerful man that ever lived with no Mako enhancement or S-cells
>>728437480Not cuter than the Aerith ball
>>728439421>>728439502Have you seen Sephiroth? Not a man alive looks like that
>>728434497
>>728440064Speak for yourself
>>728439942And yet he’ll mentally collapse if you say two wrong words, absolutely pathetic
>>728440064I looked up man alive that looks like Sephiroth and some look like that
>>728440154lmao good one retardo now get ready to get folded into yourself
>>728440230Go away Roxas
>>728424365Same reason he forgot in the first place. It's easier like this, at least at first. Much like AVALANCHE itself, it's far more comfortable than facing the reality of the situation.
>no mummy gfbeing a white boy must be so easy
>>728424365Only good thing about these remakes is these models
I love my wife Aerith very much and I want to make her a mother!
>>728438761Sin was only defeated 4 times. If Jecht hadn't been around to give them a different perspective Auron would have still been drinking the Yevon kool-aid and would have become the final summon aeon anyway.
>>728440358You better be quadrupedal, boy
>>728440389Aerith isn't like that.
>>728440174Saw one cosplayer and yet he didn't have the beautiful face of a woman sitting on an incredibly ripped mans body
>>728440328The only thing that matters to the audience is looking at these characters. They knew it's the only part they had to get right. Everything else doesn't matter, they'd buy it regardless.
>>728440435It's not really up to her
>>728428773The optional bosses after that are still a bitch though
Bros how do I beat her?
>>728440661Who or what the fuck is that
>>728440685Well I'm not big on ff7 lore but my understanding is that it's a vision of how Jenova was before the ice.
https://files.catbox.moe/mbjad5.webmGuys I was told Sepiroth was in this :(
>>728430397visceral need
>>728440328cute
>>728440809Man. I have never seen that with the sound before.
>>728440906where is spepeirof :(
>>728438814>he never mothers anymorehe never mothers anymore because he is literally Jenova the entire time dumbass.The entire plot of the game is literally The Reunion of Jenova cells converging on the primary host.I don't understand why this is so hard for you people to grasp.Sephiroth died when Cloud kills him and his body goes into the mako.Only The Jenova cells survive and the imprint of Sephiroth that was mixed with them survives because "the planet" does not recognize them as entities of the planet.So they go through the grueling process of reconstructing themselves as much as possible at the northern crater and The Reunion is a call to all Jenova infused entities on the planet to sacrifice themselves to the greater whole of Jenova.There is no Sephiroth anymore, the creature at the end of the game that you actually see is the last life cycle of Jenova, literally Jenova Complete (Synthesis). Who created a birthing pod/cocoon for the next stage of Jenova's life cycle. Bizarro Sephiroth, which the party interrupts leading to Safer Sephiroth boss battle.Jenova is an entity that corrupts and absorbs for the final manifestation of its life cycle by which it takes everything, expends all necessary energy to move to the next planet, and repeats the process forever.So why would a creature who has become a part of "his mother" use motherly terms anymore.We've gone beyond that, all humanity is void when Sephiroth died.It is an entity beyond human comprehension for everything we play during the game. Only using human sentiments to manipulate the jenova infused for its own goals. Since they actually do have some of their humanity left.
>>728430397>>728434497
>>728440948>he never mothers anymore because he is literally Jenova the entire time dumbass.damn dude you coulda just stopped there if you wanted to go full retard the rest is just overkill
>>728440543yeah but they don't gate the story itself
>>728440948This is just false.The game explicitly states that Sephiroth takes over Jenova's will.That's why he particularly likes toying with Cloud for the humiliation.
>>728440661Press the attack button
>>728440661make damage until hp = 0
>>728441092yeah it wouldn't make sense for jenova to give a shit about cloud in particular
>>728440948>Only The Jenova cells survive and the imprint of Sephiroth that was mixed with them survivesThat's just Sephiroth, all his cells are steeped in Jenova cells because the method of implanting them was so much better for him. It's the same reason that he doesn't undergo the same degradation as Genesis or Angeal, he doesn't have his cells and then also grafted Jenova cells.
>>728440948>Hojo>You see, even if Jenova's body is dismembered, it will eventually become one again. That's what is meant by Jenova's Reunion.>I have been waiting for the Reunion to start. Five years have passed, and now the Clones have begun to return.>I thought the clones would begin to gather at Midgar where Jenova is stored.>But my predictions were not entirely correct. Jenova itself began to move away from the Shinra Building.>But being a genius that I am, I soon figured it out. You see it was all Sephiroth's doing.>Sephiroth is not just content to diffuse his will into the Lifestream; he wants to manipulate the Clones himself.>Cloud>Yes, that was how it got started.>Hojo>I wondered where the clones were going, but I was never able to figure it out.>Cloud>I couldn't figure it out, either.>Hojo>The one thing that I did know was that Sephiroth was at their final destination.Your theory stopped working the day Jenova's actual body began dragging itself towards Sephiroth's corpse. The game itself says you're wrong
>>728441092the original game is purposefully ambiguous because that's the entire point of The Reunion.If you're going to quote some tranny remake shit you might as well kill yourself.Literally>nothing in the game explicitly states sephiroth has taken over>Hojo's Reunion Theory where HE STATES EXPLICITLY that Jenova cells will always try to converge on eachotheronce again you trying to pull from some fanfiction written years/decades later isn't canonical.
Tifa dancing for you
>>728440451Yeah, and they will never spend money on you roastie
>>728428756Hojo knowing the horrors he could create anyway from Dr. Gast seems like something humans would actually do in real life.
>>728441351Come home, VaM man.
>>728430752>In fact you can find regular degular SOLDIER 1st Class in game. It's these dudes. Literal faceless goons.Yeah during disc 3 when the party is powerful. But statistically a single one of them would have wrecked the party during Midgar in disc 1.
>cloud in actuality is a total loser failure NTR bait >he was never going to become anything more than a grunt if he was never captured with Zack>He promised his childhood friend he'd become something great and failed miserably>he took the personality of someone way better than him after having a spastic attackWhat did the japs mean by this
>>728441671So? Not even close to relevant
>>728441525There's a neat little detail that I'm a little annoyed was removed from Remake. In OG, Hojo watched the tapes, memorized the information, and then immediately destroyed them. So when Hojo starts talking about WEAPON and the end of the world, Rufus has no idea what the fuck he's talking about>Hojo>Weapon...>Then it really does exist... I didn't believe in it.>Rufus>What does this mean?>Hojo>...Weapon. Monsters created by the Planet.>It appears when the Planet is in danger, reducing everything to nothingness.>That's what was stated in Professor Gast's report.>Rufus>I never saw that report... Where is it?>[Hojo taps his head.]>Hojo>Here, right here.>Rufus>You keep a lot of things to yourself.Yeah Shinra gave Hojo a blank check with no idea what he was spending it on. In Remake though Rufus knows what WEAPON is already. You'd think someone as pragmatic as Rufus knowing WEAPON heralds the end of the world might concern him at least a little bit but Remake is just weird so fuck it I don't know
>>728441226I always saw it as injecting jenvoa mutated all the hosts cells into being some kinda hybridised jenova cells, at least that's how the nibelheim manor reports make it sound. The cause of degradation would be when the jenova cells are injected and whether the body's able to handle the mutation process. Having a weird "pocket" of jenova cells never really sounds right.Also why Sephiroth's cells are so coveted since they're the perfect symbiosis>>728441719Cloud in actuality overcame all obstacles, got the girl and saved the worldYou're focusing on his lowest moments (and adding your own embarrassing spin to them) rather than his triumphsBasically you're retarded
>>728441719>He's a young man whose fundamental issues haven't changed at all. It feels like even if he ages, he won't be able to handle himself well in the world.
Why couldn't they make this game cartoony but also eerie like the OG
>>728441853>Cloud in actuality overcame all obstacles, got the girl and saved the worldOnly because he was captured with Zack and was used as a guinea pig.
>>728427909Dr. GASTER?
>>728442081the writers are super serial people that want to be taken seriously for writing light novel slop.
>>728442118And he would have passed his SOLDIER tests if he didn't keep throwing up, I can dismiss things too. Fact is those events did happen and he came out on top
>>728442021And T(etsuya)N(omura) thinks socially retarded emo is cool.also >>728441853failed again, illiterate-kun
>>728442118>>728442258>b-buh he never would've-He was 16 and had already fucked Sephiroth's shit up stop this fucking cope it's unsightlyKneel to your FUARKING hero
>>728442118Tifa bluntly says what she wants>Tifa>Hey, why don't we make a promise?>Umm, if you get really famous and I'm ever in a bind......>You come save me, all right?>Cloud>What?>Tifa>Whenever I'm in trouble, my hero will come and rescue me.>I want to at least experience that once.>Cloud>What?>Tifa>Come on--! Promise me----!>Cloud>All right...... I promise.Cloud already got Tifa's attention by being the only boy to follow her into the mountains. Cloud didn't even think Tifa would show up after she always ignored him prior. Cloud ran after her knowing full well he was outmatched. Cloud fucking killed Sephiroth. Cloud had the ingredients of a hero long before he had the superpowers to go with them. Tifa never asked Cloud to be a world famous hero. That was Cloud's own insecurity. Tifa just wants someone to be there for her in her time of need. It turns out the only person in the entire game who doesn't believe in Cloud, is Cloud.
>>728442343Sounds like cope
what's the best way to play FF7 (non-remake)? PS1 original? PC International? Android?
>>728442493Cool can you go do it in silence not at my feet
>>728442685Sora canonically beat Cloud, Sephiroth and then Sephiroth again. Without Mako crutches.
>>728442732What the fuck kind of schizo shit did you just post I thought I told you to cope in silence freak
>>728424365I don't know
>>728442668Pc with mods>60fps>Use new models if you want to
>>728442732Completely different characters. FF Cloud and KH Cloud are not the same person.
>>728424365She was busy raping Barret with her massive futa cock.
>>728431997yeah i dunno what that guys problem was, i read your recap and it's pretty much how i remembered it. maybe it was a different translation though because Ifalna explicitly called Jenova a "Calamity", not a "Crisis". everything else lines up.
>>728436957Gantz would be so cool without the nip teen angst elements - omni present in all manga but I was convinced to read to and it was good enough
>>728442957Teen angst is objectively the coolest. Faggot.
>>728442836No the tranny is Aerith now
>>728442957Hell no. Teens should be teens. It's why manga felt better beforeYeah men wanted to have sexYeah women are jealous creaturas Yeah drama and romance existWe were ALIVE
>>728430397jeet coded shit
>>728443150>Yeah men wanted to have sex>Yeah women are jealous creaturas>Yeah drama and romance existThis is not exclusive to teens this is just life
>>728443481Yeah but it was teens that we wanted to have sex with which made women jealous and caused all the drama. Gotta be teens.
Why didn’t they just look up Sephiroth’s “Early Life” section on Wikipedia
>>728424567>>728439421My crush looks like that only without J cup boobs
Did she notice Cloud was looking down her cleavage in this scene?
>>728424365she looks like a Brazilian ladyboy
So has the entire story been remade yet or is there still a "remake-retrograde-regurgitate" part to be released?
>>728443730>My crushlmao nigga did not just say that
>>728443971Not yet. We've made it to Aerith's death. Part 3 is supposed to be the finale
>>728424365OG: IIRC, she didn't know if her own memories were tampered with at first, and as it became more apparent that Cloud was the one fucked in the head, it became more and more difficult to tell him he was a schizo.
>>728429605When women complain about men wanting them to act like their mothers I seethe with rage. Dumb sluts don't understand that being a mother is the adult life phase of a woman. A boss babe acting like a girlfriend forever is the female equivalent of being a man child. Case in point women have 0 issues with men acting like their daddies and spoiling them. That's exactly what they want men to do, in fact
>>728444014inb4 they give you an opportunity to safe or revive Aerith
>>728443945>implying
>>728443653Hojo is a moderator and made the article protected.
>>728430397It gets me harder if I imagine it's monstrous Jenova imitating Tifa's appearance to get its cells back, like some sort of succubus, hence the gross oversized tits
>>728444320He wouldn't have had to if some whiny emo faggot didn't keep trying to edit it to say Sephiroth was a rape baby
>>728424365Aerith will never win against her
>>728444357>Jenova already proved it can shapeshift into Tifa because it did it at the Northern Crater>Jenova shapeshifting into Tifa to seduce CloudOh no...
>>728425603Pics or didn't happen
>>728444373xXDarkPrinceChaosXx needs to stop already
>Sephiroth tries to cuck Cloud by banging Tifa>Accidentally bangs his own mother who was trying to trick Cloud herself
>>728444556Not actually his mother. Just grafted with her cells.
>>728444656Uhh yeah that's called motherhood, tranny. That's how breeding works.
>>728444556Sephiroth is the one exerting his will over Jenova at this point, so he'd be the one transforming into Tifa and getting stuffed by Cloud.>It's me Cloud, it was me all along, Cloud!
>>728429165She should remember Zack and two regular guards following but didn't make the connection of Cloud being one of the guards. She could've easily mentioned Zack to literally anyone which is the writers flaw imo but everything else checks out.
>>728444870You can't exert will over your own mother
>>728444926As far as she knows Cloud is not an infantryman at all, it's not a connection that she would make
>>728433010Going to the cold north dressed like this shows you that Tifa has balls, homo
>>728429605uhh, is this TIFA?breasts way too smalldropped
Did Cloud know Tifa was getting dicked down by Denzel when he was gone?
>>728445071But she knew he joined Shinra to become a SOLDIER. Along with his perfect recollection of the events its a perfectly reasonable connection to make. My real point is though that she doesn't mention Zack at all even though that could bring more clarity to the situation. Tifa being that timid and withholding somewhat critical information is flawed writing imo.
>>728445273Looks vaguely like Silver Radish but he mostly does femboy x femboy stuff.
>>728443864Everyone in the whole freaking world is looking down her cleavage. Men, Women, Thugs, Girls, I'd bet even dogs and monsters do. She's used to it.
>>728445365She knew he left to join SOLDIER, everything since reuniting has confirmed for her that he did in fact join SOLDIER, he claims that he was the SOLDIER assigned there and can recount too many details to not have been involved and finally he is literally walking around still carrying the sword that she saw the SOLDIER using during that event. It's extremely reasonable for her to doubt her own memories at that point.
>>728445631Once again my point is about Zack nigga. Everything else is debatable.
>>728445734And my point is that when the sole discrepancy between their accounts of the event is whose head was on that SOLDIER's body and she has 0 reason to believe that Cloud was not a SOLDIER then her memory of Zack is not enough to conclude that Cloud was probably one of the guards. She doesn't mention someone who she's doubting actually existed.
>>728445910At the latest with >>728429367 she's having confirmation of his existence, along with aerith literally knowing him personally. She should've spoken about it earlier but withholding information even after that point makes no real sense. Flawed writing I'd say, it's the shitty 90s trope that annoyed everyone and their dog just to propel the plot forward.
>>728443730>my crushlol how does it feel to know you're being cucked like hell as you're reading this and she's sucking someone else's dick or getting rawdogged?The more you think of the word "crush" the worse it gets dude, get to her asap
>>728429605>AC TIfa
>>728444119It's just childless chungus cope
>>728424365Blonde seed x Tifa womb
>>728445365Yeah she has evidence Cloud joined SOLDIER because of his eyes in FF7.She couldn't have thought Cloud was a grunt unless she thought.>"Cloud was a Grunt during Nibelheim. He then joined SOLDIER despite the fact Sephiroth destroyed his home town. Then left SOLDIER to become a mercenary"
>>728446469>lol how does it feel to know you're being cucked like hell as you're reading this and she's sucking someone else's dick or getting rawdogged?Thats literally every man who has had a girlfriend or casual sexUnless you are going for underage women
>>728442668Satoshi has a big modpack with a launcher where you can select what you want: https://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=21616
>>728424365Because it literally did not matter in regards to her feelings or what their goal was. Shows you what a good woman she was to minimize potential drama when it wouldn't serve to advance their mission.
Why doesn't Tifa wear here cowboy outfit anymore?
>>728448536This isn't a 4chan drag queen. CowGIRL.
>>728424365Booba
>>728438464That's my entire life you're making fun of
>>728424365She kinda tries in Rebirth, but Cloud just sort of responds with "...You're not Tifa" and a threatens her. He didn't respond well.
for me, it's this look
For me, it's this look
>>728434130I want Squall and Selphie to have these kinds of scenes in FF8 Remake desu
>>728450615Eve pulls it off better
>>728450615need italian wife
>>728424365she was the one who put them in his head, you think she's going to admit it?
>>728428582I’m 32 but it could still happen…
>>728442668PS1 original. Even more ideal would be the Eidos original PC version (not the one on Steam) with the Yamaha sounds Uematsu intended, but since there's no way you'll manage to fulfill all those prerequisites, just go with the PS1 original.
>>728425365BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR STORY NIGGA, HE SAYS THIS LIKE FIFTY TIMES
>>728424365Because she could tell Cloud was going schizo so it wasn't a good idea to trigger him.
