Keep in mind that no 3D flagship game in Nintendo's Big Three (Mario, Zelda, Metroid) ever scored below 90 before this.
>>728440013>Metroid>Big ThreeSplatoon 2 and 3 have each individually sold more than the entire Metroid series combined.
>>728440013Still too high. This game is fucking mediocre in the truest sense of the word.
>>728440013>most expensive Nintendo game ever made>10 years dev hell, mocap and voice acting for the whole AAA experience>flops in Japan>reviews worse than Starfieldgrim
The big three are Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. Splatoon, Kirby and Pikmin are the supporting acts. Nintendo themselves have stated this before.Meanwhile Metroid occupies that bottom tier alongside Star Fox and F Zero and all that shit. The average consumer does not give a toss about them and they'll only crank out a game every few years as a token effort.
>>728440013>Metroid>Big Three
>>728440481So the bingtendo holiday release launch game is the worst game from a bottom tier franchise? Reviewed worse than Other M.
>>728440524>pokemon costs $10 million a game>mp4 cost $100 millionJust because it flopped doesn't mean they didn't try
>>728440120>Muh salesSplatoon will never compare to Godtroid when it was at its peak, the trinity is Mario Zelda and Metroid
>>728440013Washed company. Don't worry, third parties justify the Shitch Poo!
>>728440013>tendies waited almost 2 decades for thisLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>728440013god i hate 3D zelda, mario and metroid
remember super metroid 4 or whatever that came out two days ago? no? me either
>>728440013Metroon is not a “big three”, you cubie retard.
>>728441393Never liked Mario 2D or 3DI liked the early 3D Zeldas OOT, MM, WW, but after that they kinda lost me. That said the handheld 2D Zeldas weren't my thing either, OoS/OoA/Minish Cap/Link Between Worlds, they never really did it for me either.I did like the 3D Metroids, shame the new one is shit. At least Dread was great, it was good to have a new 2D Metroid that didn't suck come out.
>>728440013>this would be under 50 without the nintendo bonusit's truly over
>>728440768go to bed unc
>>728440013This would be 89 with the mario bonus
The big 3 are (objectively speaking; based on sales numbers)1.Mario2.Pokemon3.Wii (sports/fit/resort/club/ect)
dont care game is good
>>728440757Pokemon costs that cheap because Game Freak is that cheap and lazy
>Metroid>big 3That's some insane delusion
Yet another shitposting thread, don't you ever get tired of it all?
>>728441951you know autistic kids who cant do anything but stack blocks by colour all day every day and lose their fucking marbles if anything different happened? these people are like that, they wont get tired of it.
>>728441852And Pokemon fans are lobotomies and will buy a plate of shit if it says "Pokémon" on it
>>728442017Yep and there's more than enough so it's a massive profit
>>728440628I don't know if you've noticed but Nintendo's cashing out of gaming and going all in on movies, merchandise and theme parks.
>>728440120Forget sales. If you ask people "What are the big three Nintendo franchises?", they will answer Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in that order. Those are the three franchises that define Nintendo's prestige single-player action-adventure core. It's taken for granted at this point that every flagship entry in that core will be excellent. It's like an inter-generational thermometer of Nintendo's quality control. If the thermometer is showing an ugly temperature for any of the three franchises, that bodes ill for the rest of the company.
>>728442203>Forget sales. If you ask people "What are the big three Nintendo franchises?", they will answer Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in that order. No one under 30 will.
>>728442203>If you ask people "What are the big three Nintendo franchises?", they will answer Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in that orderLMAO what level of delusion is this? The average person does not know what the fuck Metroid is. You'll get people answering Mario and Pokemon. Maybe Zelda, maybe Pikmin and Kirby. Not fucking Metroid.
>>728442203>they will answer Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in that orderYou fucking wish they would mention Metroid, you would more than likely get what >>728442468 mentioned with maybe a few confused people adding Sonic to that mix.
>>728442413More like 35
>>728442203>>728442468I visited the new Nintendo store in London. There was merch for the following series there:>Mario>Zelda>Animal Crossing>Pokemon>Kirby>Splatoon>PikminAnd that was it. Metroid (and Star Fox) nowhere to be found.
>>728442815>>Mario>>Zelda>>Animal Crossing>>Pokemon>>Kirby>>Splatoon>>PikminNone of these got mainline releases for the switch 2. At least we get another Mario movie though.
>>728443176
>>728440013I guess the picrel needs to be updated.
>>728443176kirby air riders just came out this month retard.
>>728443815>hyrule warriors just came out it's zelda bro
>>728443176>None of these got mainline releases for the switch 2.That's because a few of them just got big titles less than two years ago, like Zelda got Totk in 2024, and Pikmin 4 isn't even 2 years old yet. Pokémon also sells well no matter what (The spin-off Z-A sold over 4 million copies in a week). As for AC, I imagine AC will be getting a new game in the next few years, same for Splatoon (tho that one at least has a spin-off in the works to hold fans over) and Kirby.
>>728443176Yes, games take time to make.
>>728443930>spinoffs bearing the IP don't count because I say soIf you wanna play that game, Prime 4 doesn't count as it isn't a mainline release. If you want to count it, then Legends ZA counts too.>b-but Legends ZA was on Switch 1 too!So is Prime 4. The only reason it's coming out now and not five years ago was because its development was a shitshow.
>>728440013>Keep in mind that no 3D flagship game in Nintendo's Big Three (Mario, Zelda, Metroid) ever scored below 90 before this.That's because of the Nintendo Bonus, even Prime 2 and 3 were kinda 8/10 games that got boosted by an era where almost any big entry in a Nintendo franchise that didn't suck would get obligatory 9s due to the Nintendo Bonus.Even the barely 8/10 (for the time, nowadays it would be 7/10 at best) Skyward Sword has 93:https://www.metacritic.com/game/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword/Without the Nintendo Bonus, Sunshine, The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Prime 2, Skyward Sword, etc, would all be 80s.
>>728446526The Nintendo bonus doesn't exist.
>>728443673 Yeah, picrel’s outdated for sure. At this point it needs to swap out Metroid for Animal Crossing or Splatoon if we’re talking actual relevance instead of nostalgia. Metroid’s had like two and a half good years out of the last twenty and people still treat it like it sits at the cool kids' table with Mario and Zelda.
>>728441852Expedition 33 was cheaper than Z-A and not only was it much better looking, it was also far more ambitious
>>728440013Americans can't make games anymore. People need to stop being surprised.
>>728446872Nta, it absolutely exists. As someone who used to be a raging tendie, the people at major websites who review Nintendo games are the Nintendo crew, they mostly play Nintendo shit and live in their own weird bubble. The tribalism isn't as strong as it used to be but it was immense during the Wii and prior era and absolutely led to inflated review scores. Something happened with the switch and this attitude reawakened In the era of freelance game journalism it still exists because the people who get handed these games are the Nintendo guys who have a history of reviewing their games, they are all hardcore tendies with limited game palates.
>macaco samefag falseflag threadYikes-39028 karma to Sony, fraid so
>>728441951Who?
>>728442203>hey will answer Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in that ordernobody will name metroid you retarded troonenial
No one is buying the game. It's in the top 10 best sellers, about to be overtaken by Silksong, with the difference that it costs 6x more. Nintendo's best sellers are now separated by revenue rather than copies sold (so shovelware sold at $0.99 no longer appears there), or in other words, Silksong is selling 6x more copies right now than Metroid Prime 4 right now.Yeah... making traditional linear areas, with NPCs telling you where to go, wasn't a good idea, who would have thought? People want Metroidvanias with complex maps.
>>728444385And Nintendo has had 50 years to make Switch 2 games, where the fuck are they?
>>728440251>flops in JapanWhy wouldn't it flop in Japan. Metroid is extremely unpopular over there.
>>728447817It's not even tribalism, it's just the view of the casual observer who is influenced by brands. It's like the faggot who says a wine is good because the bottle costs $300, but in blind tests he can't tell it apart from a $3 bottle.Nintendo is seen by reviewers as a "Rolex" of games or something like that. They pick up Nintendo games with the perception that they are of higher quality, even if in practice, they are just another bad game in a sea of shovelware.
>>728443673Corruption needs to be knocked down at least 10 points lower. People were too easily amused by waggleshit at the time.Hunters should be lower as well, but I can accept the "impressive for the hardware" bonus.
If I dragged my kids out of bed now and asked them what the biggest nintendo games currently are, they'd say ''dad what the fuck is your problem''
>>728440013Metroid is absolutely not on the same league as Mario and Zelda. For Mario and Zelda you could tell Nintendo invests a lot in innovation trying to change the game and formulas and even set industry standards. To say nothing of the sales and how many spin offs and derivatives Mario got.Metroid peaked in Super and had a semblance of inspiration in Fusion but that was bout it
>>728440013>b-b-but it's okay because muh Japan market hates Prime
>>728449005Just checked my first world country's eshop.It's no.1 for Switch 2 and no.6 for Switch.Silksong is 26 for reference.
>>728440013I got part way through the magma level and dropped it. What were they thinking?
>>728446526Nah, if anything journos have an anti Nintendo bias because they want video games to be perceived as "mature" and their insecurity has led them to be embarrassed of their own industry.Remember all those articles wanting Nintendo to go 3rd party during Wii U era and journos calling the Switch a flop before it even released?Where are those people nowadays after both Sony and Microsoft have both thrown the towel and become 3rd party while Nintendo is doing better than ever?
>>728440013>Big Three>MetroidTalk about delusions lmao.
>>728449721>Nintendo is doing better than ever?Maybe financially? In terms of quality there's a reason most people outgrew the company. If we're being real, like REALLY real, Nintendo fell off after the SNES. There hasn't really been a good post-SNES Nintendo game.
>>728440013>big threeLMAO only NA snes grandpas ever said this for like 1 year.
>>728449319There absolutely was tribalism, it also existed in the era where everyone rightfully shat on Nintendo games for being casual baby experiences for retarded wagglers. When you listen to the reviewers of that era they are scrambling for anything they can latch onto to generate excitement for themselves and their audience. The view of Nintendo as a premium brand only began to rise with the switch (and the decline of Sony + MS) and is now established with the switch 2 overpricing everything. I was listening to Nintendo podcasts in that era and even though I stopped during the Wii console cycle I still drop into the Backpage which has a raging tendie on it who reviews Zelda and mario games for edge, that myopic attitude still exists.
>>728449721>Nintenderos, Nintenduo etc have an anti-Nintendo biasThe absolute state
>>728449817>Nintendo fell off after the SNES. There hasn't really been a good post-SNES Nintendo game.Nigger, you say this when their followup console had two of the most influential games ever made.
>>728440013I'm pretty sure Metroid Prime's 4 budget surpasses even AAA Nintendo standard flag bearers like Zelda. Huge flop btw. For 10 years in development and Retro Studios working on dead projects for decade too, HUGE flop.
>>728449721>Nah, if anything journos have an anti Nintendo biaslmao shut the fuck up tendie. I doubt even you believe this horse shit.
>>728450009>Nigger, you say this when their followup console had two of the most influential games ever made.There's been thorough discourse on this subject and the near unanimous conclusion is that the N64's library was so bad that Nintendo fans had to convince themselves the few games they had were all highly influential games that stood at the pinnacle of their respective genres. Meanwhile, in reality, none of the games were influential or even good.
>>728449817>>728450109That's like, your opinion. But facts don't care about it, sorry!Switch is objectively the best value console in the market right now with the best games.>>728449951>what is DualShockers, PlayStation Official Magazine, PC Gamer, PCMag
>>728441951This board is incapable of feeling joy
>>728450157You're delusional.>No one ACTUALLY likes Mario 64.
>>728450068Retro is not only their most expensive studio to run, they are their only major studio who struggles to get games out the door.
>>728449678And yet, it's several positions behind Terminator 2D, which costs 1/3 of the price, meaning Metroid Prime 4 is now being outsold 3:1 (at best) by a 2D game based on a movie franchise that's been dead for about 25 years.So yes, the game isn't selling at all. Retro killed the Prime series with this piece of shit.
>>728450157lmao what is this revisionismdo snoys really
The NDS niggers finally have a win, MP4 was a flop, not like every Prime game outside of the first sold like shit already, these faggots are treating this 'win' like as though Nintendo is going to do a complete 180 on their business strategy now.
it's time to admit that there is no talent left in Retro (ignoring the art department)
>>728450242I'm sure plenty of people who didn't get a PSX convinced themselves they liked it. But quantifiably it wasn't a good game, and it certainly wasn't influential. It was a mediocre launch title, similar in vein to Pilotwings or F-Zero on the SNES.
The shitch 2 is deader than the Wii U. Wii U at least had 3DS to fall back on. Shitch 2 has nothing. Tendies don't realise it, but Bingtendo's goose is as good as cooked.
>>728440251>most expensive Nintendo game ever madefake and made up
>>728450564>hes been posting this two more weeks cope about nintendo ever since the original switch came outLMAO
>>728450465I'm sure people who grew without playing a Mario game unironically believe those are bad games, so as to tell themselves they didn't miss out, like some coping mechanism.
>>728450248I hope they can get out Prime 2 Switch before being closed.
>>728450716>"missing out" on a kid's gameactually true. nintendo games are only good if you're 5. once you have a developed prefontal cortex they're not fun anymore
>>728450271Nintendo is already doubling down. They bought that LucasArts studio and now all their games have DEI AAA concessions in them. All you have to look forward to in 2026 is a literal Mario movie and Nig Emblem.
>>728451061>doomed since 1889
>>728446526Yep, I was a tendi until recently (I think Nintendo's game design has largely been extremely outdated for a decade now and they're largely getting smashed at their own game by Indies) and yeah, Skyward Sword even getting a 9/10s and 10/10s everywhere when it's at best a very flawed 8/10 is pretty good example.Twilight Princess was BTFO'ed by Oblivion yet scored BETTER from reviewers which is batshit.>The Wind WakerWind Waker was great for it's time and deserved it's score for the time period. Even with the shitty Triforce quest, for the time it's a 9/10 game and 10/10 game for atmosphere. It's really with the 7th gen that the Nintendo bonus really started to kick in.
>>728449418Corruption needs to get docked points for more than just waggle shit (which was, at best, a band-aid for the Prime's clunky combat system). Hypermode ruins the balance of the entire game (enemies are too tanky for your other weaponry; most upgrades are boring AND worse than hypermode).>huntersI still need to try it. Haven't decided if I'm going to emulate it on Deck or hack one of my 3DS's. Doesn't look great, though. Or at least, the single player doesn't look great.
>>728451254if you go from famicom to super famicom you can see how big a change it is. lttp is one of the first movie games. it's piss easy compared to the original. same with the snes mario and metroid games.if wind waker was released as a third party ps2 game it would be an above average game that gets forgotten. people would call it worse okami and it would only have niche appeal
>>728451513>hunters>I still need to try it.lol no you don't. the online was revolutionary for the time though. it was the first or one of the first online nintendo games for a lot of people
>>728442203Metroid is only kept relevant due to being a part of the Metroidvania name but Metroidvanias have barely anything to do with any Metroid other than Super Metroid. Metroid has gotten more and more linear since then and most Metroidvanias are SotN inspired and not Super Metroid inspired.It's a wholly irrelevant franchise kept alive by some cheeky brits who called SotN "Metroidvania" to disparage it back in 1997.
>>728440013It's official, MP4 is as bad as Other M.
its so funny how so many 'lapsed tendies' come out of the wetworks in these threads
>>728440251>flops in JapanIt flopped everywhere. It already fell off in all eShop in the World.
>>728450271I see you've finally reached the acceptance stage of grief.
>>728442203More like Mario, Pokémon and Zelda in this order, sometimes Smash tooMetroid, Splatoon or Kirby have always been “the other ones”
I>>728451513>Corruption needs to get docked points for more than just waggle shitDefinitely. It's just people were easily impressed by waggle in 2007, while that would bring a game down nowadays.>Doesn't look great, though. Or at least, the single player doesn't look great.Nobody likes Hunters for the singleplayer. It's crap. But having a full 3D online multiplayer FPS on the fucking DS was awesome.
>>728451864>A new tendie game for a series that hasn't had a new entry in almost 20 years>Pffff lapsed tendies caring about prime 4? Unbelievable! Barry, Timmy, eric and his discord gay squad are brigading me
>>728440013>Caring about reviews.It sold well.Get fucked.
>>728451946no games that have ever had a long protracted dev hell like MP4 has ever turned out good, why do you NDS niggers think this is the first time this has ever happened?
>>728452096Mp4 had a normal development cycle at retro.
>Pokémon is now a Nintendo game.Tendies can never make their mind, huh?
>>728449026system's been out for 6 months and already has 4 games (MKW, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Hyrule Warriors). just over half a year old and it already has more exclusives than any other console on the market.
>>728452095Proof?
>lttp is one of the first movie games. it's piss easy compared to the original. same with the snes mario and metroid games. I know /v/ loves to out-contrarian each other, but what the actual fuck is this thread man
>>728452207It the best selling Prime game in Japan.
>>728452212ACfag running his mouth again, just call Terraria a wiki slop game and TF2 a tranny game to get him to meltdown
>>728452168the original premise>If you ask people what are nintendo's big threeso i get that this is hard for you anons who failed the sally anne test, but the question here isn't "what are the three most prominent series nintendo themselves make", but "what are the three series the wider society views as "nintendo's biggest series"". The nuance is hard for people like you who can't think outside simple perspectives, but humanity at large is often wrong about things, and they THINK pokemon is made by nintendo.
>>728452168Here's how it works.>when people show how unpolished the games are, they're not Nintendo games>when people want to use their sales figures to consolewar, they ARE Nintendo games
>>728452168It's a nintendo exclusive, yes, not a game developed by Nintendo. Hard concept to grasp for a low IQ snoy, I know.
>>728452271That is blatantly false.Proof?
>>728440013>Metroid>Big 3Maybe like 40 years ago sureThe franchise literally got skipped on the n64
2D Metroid chads, we won
>>728440013I used to be a huge tendie but they've really gone downhill recently
>>728452175>been out for 6 months and already has 4 games (MKW, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Hyrule Warriors)where's the adult section? these are kid's games. mp4spoken is for the adults I guess. They think we're all beer bellied dadgamers that like marvel quipping walking sims
>>728442203Donkey Kong would be #3 amongst everyone I know but you're a retard if you think it isn't Mario Zelda Pokemon.Hell, Smash has a more dedicated and rabid fanbase with like 20x the sales as c Metroid. Metroid hasn't mattered since prime 2, which was the greatest game on the cube.
>>728452567>8.8It's over
>>728452452So it's not a Nintendo game.Just like Rare games weren't considered Nintendo games back in the N64 era.They don't count for anything related to Nintendo, neither the good nor the bad.So the "Nintendo Big 3" is "Mario, Zelda and Splatoon"
>I know /v/ loves to out-contrarian each other, but what the actual fuck is this thread mango back to where you came from, your downvoots have no power here
>>728452460Switch 1 Digital + Switch 1 Physical + Switch 2 Digital + Switch 2 Physical.Combined they sold more than any Prime game.
>>728440481Pokemon is not a nintendo 1st party franchise even it feels like it is.If you had to pick a big 3 (And ignored the "multiplayer/party games like smash bros, mario kart, sports titles, party etc.) it is quite literally Zelda, Mario and Animal Crossing.They're the GIANT hitters in terms of sales, with Splatoon, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Pikmin playing as supporting acts.Metroid is Fire Emblem tier at this point - Will sell a lot but is a notch below the other titles.Then you have poor starfox all the way in forgotten territory with F zero
>>728446526>8/10Prime 3 is a 6 or 7Prime 1 and 2 are both like 9.8 or 9.7If you suck dick at the game I can see you giving 2 only a 9.5 but fuck you, anything lower and I know it's a skill issue
>>728452606Isn't it just Mario Kart, Mario Party, and Smash then? Metroid hella mattered or else Samus wouldn't have been an original 12
>>728452421>>when people show how unpolished the games are, they're not Nintendo gamesyeah, because they aren't made by nintendo>when people want to use their sales figures to consolewar, they ARE Nintendo gamesyeah, because a lion's share of the money from those games goes in nintendo's pocket. these aren't the contradictory stances you think they are.
You have to understand why this game came out the way it did.It had been a long-ass time since Prime 3 so making a game which appealed only to people who played the others wasn't going to cut it. Starting a new trilogy and making the game more BOTW like on the surface makes sense for reaching a wider audience. The core fans may hate it, but user score and general opinionon reddit isactually very positive. Its probably sold better than any other Prime too
>>728452772>Metroid hella mattered or else Samus wouldn't have been an original 12oh man i forgot Ness, Captain Falcon, and Jigglypuff were also "nintendo's big three" just as important as Mario and Zelda right?
>>728452709Do you have ANY data at all beyond its switch 2 sales?Let me guess, you don't but you'll keep spamming it.
>>728452757>prime 16/10 walking sim with le ambience and le music carrying it>prime 26.5/10 walking sim with a modicum of challenge>prime 3forgettable 5/10 almost as bad as other m
>>728449873>the era where everyone rightfully shat on Nintendo games for being casual baby experiences for retarded wagglers.This right here is where you lose all credibility. The Wii's output was far superior to the other two consoles.
>>728442203>If you ask people "What are the big three Nintendo franchises?", they will answer Mario, Zelda, and Metroid in that orderTaking into consideration both the reach they have via merch and their appeal across all ages, I would be legitimately shocked if most Mario and/or Zelda fans knew what Metroid is
>>728449873>The view of Nintendo as a premium brand only began to rise with the switchZoom zoom, Nintendo has been viewed as the premium brand for software since the 80s. You have no idea what you are talking about.
>>728452878falcon was peaking in importancejiggs represents the anime (huge impact)ness was put in to shill the 64dd game that got canceled. he was their version of corrin minmin etc
>>728452757>>728452890I do wonder what jewtuber came up with the MP3 hate. Please tell me so I can be in on it too, xisters.
>>728452903In no way, shape or form.
>>728452889Considering about 40% of Nintendo's sales are digital, he's right and you are retarded.
>>728452408>>728452421>When it's about sales: "Hell yeah! Pokémon is a Nintendo game!!!!">When it's about quality: "NOOOOOOO POKÉMON IS NOT A NINTENDO GAME!!!!!!"Today's episode: The mysterious case of Schrödinger's Intellectual Property!
>>728441751new wii game when?
>>728452903You weren't around back then. Back then even if you were a hardcore nintendo fanboy you couldn't survive with just a Wii. The debate among Nintendo fans was Wii60 or WiiS3, not if the Wii can compete with the others in terms of games. It was common knowledge that it sucked and only retirement homes bought it
>>728452789If Nintendo co-owns the series, publishes it, promotes the games as tentpole releases for their platform, and takes credit/accolades for their sales, then they do get to take partial responsibility for them being shit too. They are saying "yes, we consider this is a satisfactory caliber of game to represent our company and platform".
>>728443673Got your back bro
>>728449817The sad thing is I actually understand where you're coming from but no one here will understand the nuance.Smw > sm64Alttp > oot (in fact oot is basically a remake of alttp in 3d)Super > prime 1 (in fact prime is just a 3d translation of super, right down to retarded power ups like the X-ray visor)Dkc 1/2 > dk64The only argument might be that f-zero GX was the best in the series but that was made by Sega anywayAnd that starfox 64 is the best in the series, but it's only barely ahead of the SNES one, and 64 is creatively bankrupt compared to the SNES title.So basically any franchise on SNES was better there than anywhere else.And Every "new" franchise after is total slop (smash,animal crossing, etc...)Forgot to mention the SNES Mario kart is also the best until you get to total mainstream niggercattle slop shit like mk7/mk8
Metroid is not and has never been a pillar franchise for Nintendo. The "big three" are and always have been Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon.
There hasn't been a good Mario game since SMW (and while I disagree I would accept SMB3 as a response)
>>728453121Pokémon is not a Nintendo franchise.It's just a Nintendo exclusive.
>>728453107pinballGODS
>>728450626if it's fake why did I say it was true? retard.
>>728453203Pinball is actually pretty fun.
>>728453107pinball should be higher tbqh
>>728453107based>>728453113>Smw > sm64smb3 > smw>Alttp > oot (in fact oot is basically a remake of alttp in 3d)loz nes > lttp>Super > prime 1 (in fact prime is just a 3d translation of super, right down to retarded power ups like the X-ray visor)metroid nes > super>Dkc 1/2 > dk64true but not nintendo games
>>728451254Windwaker was unplayable dogshit with a forced stealth section that sucked ass. At least they had the courtesy to put it within the first two hours so I could return it instead of at the end like Metroid zero mission. Dunno why nintendo was so obsessed with this shit mechanic back then. Probably trying to copy metal gear solid
>>728453302>forced stealth section that sucked ass. At least they had the courtesy to put it within the first two hours so I could return it instead of at the end like Metroid zero mission. Dunno why nintendo was so obsessed with this shit mechanic back then.everybody was in gen 6. It was the trend of the time, like survival crafting / roguelike mechanics of today
>>728453096Nintendo has no control over how pokemon is made, this was made abundantly clear by the leaks where nintendo straight up offered game freak money and people to help expand their development efforts and game freak told them to fuck off. THAT is why pokemon isn't a "nintendo game". its development (the core part of what makes a game a game) is out of nintendo's hands.
>>728452628Twilight princess was actually good thoughBetter than prime 4 at least
>>728453004In an absolute, undeniable way. Donkey Kong Country Returns, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Mario Kart Wii, ... all were highly polished, novel experiences, and no "baby" or young child could finish them.Shooters were far superior on the Wii due to motion aiming being a far superior control method to dual stick aiming, which the braindead, mentally stunted NPCs who derided "waggle" at the time were in denial about. Even Metroid Other M completely bodies most popular AAA shit from that era (ass creed, fifa, oblivion, GTA 4, RE5, ...)
>>728453408>though
>>728452772That was because smash was made in 1997 or 1998 when super was still the newest Metroid game
>>728453121>Metroid is not and has never been a pillar franchise for Nintendo.It was revered by fans and critics for 20 years or so. From Metroid NES all the way to Other M. During that time every metroid game was considered a timeless classic in contention for greatest game of all time. But the might have fallen.
>>728453487Little orange cuckball.
>>728453107The fact that it's universally accepted that Other M is the worst game in the series, and no one bats an eye when you shit on it, but Prime 4 has the same exact score, and if you talk shit about it, you're an "incel" or "chud" or whatever, is strange. I wonder if it has anything to do with a certain member of Prime 4's development team.
>>728453441>Even Metroid Other M completely bodies most popular AAA shit from that era (ass creed, fifa, oblivion, GTA 4, RE5, ...)it's not better than ass creed 1/2, gta4, or re5. I'll give you oblivion at least. But then when you compare it to actual decent AAA from that era like Halo 3, Mass Effect, cod4, dead rising, it gets blown out of the water in every aspect
>>728453050Let me help you out : When it comes to boosting Nintendo's platform sales and revenue, Pokémon being exclusive to them, partly owned by them, and being the largest brand in the world should be mentionned as such.When it comes to actual in-game decisions, the development studio not being majority-contolled by them is more relevant. Did that fix any of your confusion, retard?
>>728446872>The Nintendo bonus doesn't exist.Meanwhile I just realized Metroid Prime: HUNTERS is at 85: >>728443673>b-but the Nintendo bonus doesn't exist.lol>>728451254>game for atmosphereVery good point, between The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, The Wind Waker is indeed the best one and its artstyle /batmosphere was indeed very good and far superior to Twilight Princess' muted and bloomy approach.
At least Other M tried something different
>>728453581Because Other M gameplay is shit, while Prime 4 gameplay is pretty good.People just want reasons to hate Prime 4.
>>728453581It's not strange at all. The NDS shit is outta control and it has affected every NS2 game so far. 3 eurogamer reviewbombed this game
>>728453624Hey I'm in the middle of something right now, but if you want I can help you out in a bit when I'm free. Your arms must be incredibly tired from moving those goalposts all over the place.
>>728453624>when it helps me bootlick daddy nintendo it's X and when it makes daddy nintendo look bad it's Y
>>728440120Zoomers need not apply
>>728449817I disagree with your cutoff point, but I'll agree that the SNES was arguably Nintendo's best console. Ignoring handhelds, you could stick to the libraries of the SNES-GameCube and be content for a long, long time. That was the peak of Nintendo.
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>>728453686Oooooor, follow me, Nintendo/Retro simply put out a lesser game.
>>728453581>The fact that it's universally accepted that Other M is the worst game in the series, and no one bats an eye when you shit on it, but Prime 4 has the same exact scoreOther M's score needs to be much lower. In no universe is that game an 8/10.
>>728453095I was around back then, moron. I was prefectly happy with the Wii/GBA.>It was common knowledge that it suckedIt was common knowledge that it had the most fun multiplayer games like Mario Kart and Smash Bros, hence the high nunber of sales for these games. The retirement home narrative is just cope made up by butthurt snoys like you.
>>728453624Oh, so Prime 4 is not a Nintendo game? Retro Studios made all the decisions!Super Smash Bros. Ultimatewas developed by Sora Ltd. and Bandai Namco Studios, so not a Nintendo game either.I understand now. Thank you!
>>728453864Other M was amazing.
>>728453734>Ignoring handhelds, you could stick to the libraries of the SNES-GameCube and be content for a long, long time.>ignoring the only redeemable partlol. snes had rpg maker jarpigs and a couple of first parties and that's it. famicom and pc engine destroy it, mega drive is better too.n64 had literally nothing so the fanboys try to cope by pretending everything released on it was a classic. it got destroyed by playstation for a good reason and it lost to the saturn in the only region that got saturn games. again, for a reason.gamecube was a good console when you compare it to the 64 or wii, but it was the 4th best of its generation. arguably the greatest generation ever so it's still up there though
>>728453928Retard
Whats the progress on the mod to remove NPCs from this game?I assume it just needs some door / quest point overrides in lava pool and the rest could just be add a glowing powerup to pickup instead of visiting the retard for upgrades
>>728453798MP4 beats Half-Life 1 and the super overrated shit like HL2, Titanfall etc
>>728453928Prime 4 is a 2nd party Nintendo game, as Nintendo fully owns Retro Studios and have final say over every aspect of the game as they completely own both, the studio and the IP. Again, it just shows us how LOW IQ you snoys are.
>>728453880>I was prefectly happy with the Wii/GBA.larping third worlder. the ds came out before the wii. you only got it in 2010 or something when your country started to import broken disc drive wiis because they were the easiest gen7 console to hack
>>728442203>they will answer Mario, Zelda, anddonkey kong
>>728454008>it's a modsnoyew. buy the game and play as intended, shill. nintendo knows best.
>>728453581>>728453107nintendo inflation was still in effect in 2010in 2020s the reviewers are actually more honestbeyond is an 8/10 game, other m is a 5/10 game, federation force is a 3/10 game
So what the hell does Nintendo have left coming up? Is fucking FIRE EMBLEM really the biggest "core" game they have on the docket right now? That February Direct REALLY needs to kick some serious ass.
>>728440013>Nintendo's Big Three (Mario, Zelda, Metroid)>not kirby>not smash bros(fuck you it counts)>not fucking pokemon>the fucking franchise that was BEGGING for breadcrumbs until the switch released and they finally made a single original metroid that wasnt dogshit 4 years ago(i will not hear out federation force defenders or whatever that 3ds one was called)why do i even come here to read this shit
>>728454061>Nintendo owns Bandai Namco too.Thank you again for clarifying this! I'm so glad we're now defining what is or isn't a Nintendo game. I was so wrong into thinking Smash Ultimate wasn't a Nintendo game. But now I know it is because they own Bamco!You were a great help!
>>728454141you vill go to the theme park and watch the movie. if you want a game all you get is bussin emblem. maybe pray for some drag x drive dlc if we're lucky nintensisters
>>728453686It's a Switch 1 game, you stupid fuck. The "YOU CAN'T PLAY IT ON SWITCH 2 SO YOU'RE CRYING!!!!" bullshit doesn't factor into crossgen games. More people on /v/ have played MP4 than Bananza and Air Riders because they can pirate Prime 4 yet Bananza and Air Riders are MUCH better received here. MP4 is just aggressively mid and didn't live up to the hype. Fuck off.
>annoying npcsurgh its bad>npcs go away 5 minutes inokay its got a chance>linear hallways for 2h ourshmm>collectathon of green rocksokay its bad>annoying npcs returnfuck this game>escort missions nonstop, npcs required to open doors and ride elevators like its a fucking AAAslopfuck this game to death and burn it at a stake this is pure heresy
>>728454024>Skyward Sword in Space beats HL1/HL2
>>728454061Anon, aren't you tired of your mental gymnastics? Perhaps I should offer you a glass of water?
I've seen gameplay and this just seems like the most creatively bankrupt game ever. You just shoot at enemies with your laser pew pew and the power ups you get serve the sole purpose of opening passageways like glorified keys. The whole gameplay loop is collecting keys. The desert they hyped so much is devoid of content. Both the gameplay and visuals of this game are dated as fuck. And this is supposed to make me want to buy a Switch 2? I swear Nintendo fell of a fucking cliff after TOTK
>>728454319skyward sword had interesting combat, good music and artistic direction and some novel game mechanics like time shift orbsMP4 has....
>>728440768>the trinity is Mario Zelda and Metroid...why?
>>728454427visuals in this game are frontloaded, they detailed the fuck out of the forest when its a small loop and the rest of the game is barren and uglydoom 2016 puts this game to shame for 80%+ of its playtime and its also on the switch 1 and its a decade old game now
>>728454024It doesn't beat it, but the difference in quality is narrower than the fans of these games would like to admit. For the record, I am a fan of them, and think MP4 is the worst major Nintendo title to release this year.
>>728454256Yeah, Other M is shit.Glad Prime 4 has none of that.
>>728442203Nigga if you ask a random person about Nintendo's flagship IPs they'll tell you>Mario>Zelda>Pokémon>Animal Crossing>Donkey Kong>Splatoon>Kirby>Pikminin that order and then MAYBE Metroid
>>728454526Because it helps me sleep at night.Satisfied?
>>728454427every nintendo game has been a collectathon with no meaningful challenge since the end of the famicom disk system era. the games after had polish. they had quality control. you were immersed when you were 8. but now? lol
>>728454351>mental gymnasticsWhere? Is any argument beyond 2 sentences too complicated for your tiny brain, so you call it mental gymnastics?
>>728454615Pokémon is not a Nintendo IP.These people are dumbasses. Nintendo only owns 1/3 of the franchise and has zero creative control over it!
>>728454626Do you have to arrange products in marketable geometry to live a happy life
>>728454234Opening a games showcase with shilling a fucking literal movie and a theme park is the kind of king anons would write satirical greentexts about for Sony last generation.
>>728454024I'd be the first person to say that Half-life, as a whole, is overrated as fuck, but>linear, millennial written slop for the MCU age is better than HL 1/2Lmao, you Prime 4 shills really need to at least TRY to sound realistic. Prime 4 isn't even better than the Prime games that proceeded it, or ANY of the Metroid games for that matter.
>>728454628>no meaningful challengeWrong. The challenge is precisely the collectibles.
>>728452972Yes, the premium brand with the cheapest fisher price hardware, the premium brand with the weakest hardware, the premium brand with all ages games made for children.
>>728454701If this was a 5 PM newscast by some local anchors who don't give a fuck about the material they have to report on, chime in with their polite smalltalk and then get off the air so they can bang their friend's daughter instead of their wife, the nintendo franchises they could name off hand would be:>mario>zelda>pokemon>donkey kongand that is it. And DK is a gamble if they'd even remember he's separate from mario now.the average schmuck is more likely to say "Wii sports" than animal crossing, splatoon, kirby or pikmin
>>728453663Hunters isn't an 85 by today's standards, but it was remarkable by 2006 DS standards. You had to be there.
>>728454763Here's your pity (You)
>>728453964What do the other companies have to do with the quality of Nintendo relative to Nintendo?
>>728452903You weren't there when tendies were watching Robbie drums shit all over their hopes and dreams. Anyone who was a Nintendo fan switched to the 360 or PS3 in that gen.
>>728454675I'm not a psychologist to understand the delusions of a retard who thinks that, because a game was made by a third-party or partner studio, Nintendo has no responsibility for its quality, but can still receive all accolades for it's accomplishments.This is the most retarded cope I ever heard on /v/. You're not autistic, you're tard, a step away from smearing your walls with your own feces.
>>728453441This is the most baby zoomer opinion I've ever seen.
>>728454786>Wrong. The challenge is precisely the collectibles.I Spy stopped being fun when I was 4. What happened to challenging level design? Closest we got from modern Nintendo was DKCR and TF but that wasn't even made by them
>>728443673>>728453107Thanks, famalam. After 6 million years in MS paint, I put together a version just for the Prime games.
>>728452986Dude it's no YouTuber, it's me. I am playing this piece of shit right now. The controls are such fucking dogshit I'm debating on just playing it on PC on primehack. It's crazy how this game scored anything above a 5. There's a handful of good set pieces but the moment to moment gameplay is just terrible. Some of the boss design is very cool but with the controls everything is a painful slog. The WiiMote is a total piece of shit and moving my wrist like 0.75 inches goes from one end of the TV to the other. If you put it on "advanced" mode your character is constantly turning because it's impossible to fully center your cross hair. One analog stick + wrist movements is total cancer. I'm guessing anyone that liked this game in 2007 were just astonished by the gaylo set pieces and too retarded to appreciate looking for things themselves so the extremely linear and boring level design and being told where to go every 5 minutes was helpful for them. Some of the motion controls are cool conceptually but they are total shit when you need them in combat.
>>728440013>he's so new he doesn't even remember the 8.8Newfags are cancer.
>>728454532>and think MP4 is the worst major Nintendo title to release this yearI mean that's not saying much. MKW and DKB are GOAT games, heard great things about Zelda musou, KAR is fun. Some critics are basically treating this like it's fucking Concord but with Concord they acted like it was still worth playing as it died. If people can't see what's going on they got retard tier IQs
>>728440013This is Miyamoto. Prime isn't even a main-line Metroid game. Its time to play the "its just a spinoff series" card and completely disown this and cut bait.
>>728454427They've been lost game design-wise ever since they ran out of games started or roadmapped under Iwata (aka Satan himself according to tendies).
>>728454936the snes and especially the n64 had barren libraries, no matter how you slice it>inb4 muh 5 good gamesmost consoles have 100+ good games
>>728455060>I put together a version just for the Prime games.>no pinball
>>728455060Grim
>>728455176>SNES >Barrenuh oh eurofag that only played the genesis spooted
>>728454756They are very quiet now that it's Nintendo.
>>728455098>I mean that's not saying much. MKW and DKB are GOAT games, heard great things about Zelda musou, KAR is fun.Personally, I LOVED Drag x Drive™ and Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour™. I'm excited to see what new intellectual property Nintendo has in store for us going into 2026.
>>728454820>the premium brand with the cheapest fisher price hardwarespecs =/= quality. Nintendo consoles have been shown to be more reliable over the years, and have always offered something more than the cheaply-engineered, derivative products from the competition. The SNES was also more powerful than the competition in many respects, it was by no means cheap.>the premium brand with the weakest hardwareNES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube were either stronger or sinilarly powerful as their competitors, again, showing us that you are a clueless zoomer who thinks the Wii was their first console.>the premium brand with all ages gamesExactly, glad you agree. Much like how Disney is the brand for a premium experience involving the whole family.>made for childrenThey've always targetted a wider audience. Just because something doesn't have hyper-realistic graphics and blood and gore does not mean it's made for children, but I do understand that it's very difficult for the low IQ ubderclass to grasp this, so I forgive you.
>>728440013>Nintendo's Big Three (Mario, Zelda, Metroid)Why are Metroidfags so delusional? Even Donkey Kong gapes Metroid on a regular basis.
This is the man responsible for the collapse of Nintendo. He doesn't even play games, despite looking like he has a large Pokemon collection under his bed and sniffs used panties from a vending machine.
>>728455393>Nintendo consoles have been shown to be more reliable over the yearsExcept when they're not, like when the stick drift, but we don't talk about that.
>>728455176You have no idea what you're talking about, and that's kind of sad considering how easy it is to access those libraries today. And even if there were only "5 good games" for those consoles, Nintendo had yet to surpass most of the highs achieved within those games.Not sure why you're trying to make a discussion about Nintendo into a console war.
>>728455075The motion controls are still far better than dual-stick aiming.
>>728440013>Metroid in big 3.>Not Pokemon, Animal Crossing, or Smash.Hyperbole as this thread is, I do hope it's a lesson to Nintendo to never let westerns write their characters again.
>>728455384I didn't buy either game but neither deserved to get reviewbombed
>>728455473>Makes more money than any other Nintendo president.>"Responsable for collapse"Meds, snoy, MEDS!
>>728440013forced hateexaggerated nitpicks
>>728455253for me, ps1 > pc engine > famicom > mega drive > saturn > snes > n64
>>728455519Playing Devil's Advocate: Smash is a crossover series. I don't think is fair put it on a list.
>>728454990Pokémon is exclusive to their consoles and partially owned by them, so it's absolutely relevant when it comes to sales and their console's appeal. Where Nintendo isn't relevant, is with regards to the actual content of the game, because unlike with Metroid Prime, they neither own the studio, nor the brand. You are either completely retarded or dishonest as fuck if you don't understand this.
>>728450626How could it possibly not be?
>>728454990>Retard calling others retarded when he gets argumentatively demolishedkek.
>>728453723The future is now, old man.
It's weird when I am offline I'm enjoying the game, and when I come on /v/ there's always a rancid thread calling it bad. What's up with that anyway.
>>728455507He means dual stick + gyro and he's right. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tag camera to right stick
>>728455393Durability is the mark of hardware made for children, not premium products. Apple phones are literally made out of glass, durable phones are midrange and made out of plastic.The nes, SNES and n64 are from an era where premium and videogames were mutually exclusive concepts, they were toys for little children. It wasn't till after the GameCube era that adults with jobs started to demand premium quality. The GameCube was the cheapest console of its era, it's a fucking purple lunchbox with a handle, again made for kids. You are also ignoring their entire handheld line and how it began as a kids toy and remained the cheap mass market alternative to Sony's premium variant.Nintendo was never a premium brand, they were cheap mass market toys till the switch 2.
Not sure I understand the hate bandwagon.The annoying guy shows up 5 minutes in and disappears mostly after 10.
>3D Mario team just spent like 6 years on a DK game that came and went like a wet fart despite its reviews>3D Zelda still probably has a long way to go still since it took them 6 years just to asset-flip BotW in 2023>ACNH S2 Edition being treated as a major update means you're not seeing a new AC soon>ditto for Splatoon with Splatoon Raiders>Sakurai just got done with a game, so a new Smash isn't coming out for a while (unless it's just an S2 Edition for SSBU lol)>Metroid Prime just shat its pants after 8 years of development and MercurySteam is fucked right now>the only other things left now are crummy spinoffs and Fire EmblemOh my god 2026 is going to suck tremendous dick.>>728455475Or 3DS cartridges (especially the ones made after 2014 or so) starting to rot.
>>728455475Then why have online retailers shown consistently that Nintendo is the brand with the least warranty cases, returns for DoA and repairs, across multiple categories like consoles, controllers and even physical games?>Except when they're not, like when the stick driftExactly, stick drift was an exception, which is why it was so notable.
>>728456096>Then why have online retailers shown consistently that Nintendo is the brand with the least warranty cases, returns for DoA and repairs, across multiple categories like consoles, controllers and even physical games?It's Sunday night in India now, you have a cushy gig but do the hours ever get to you? How many rupees you make an hour?
>>728456256stick drift affects all controllers across all brands
>>728454615Tendies really are delusional. No random person would know half the things on that last. Pretty much just Mario and Pokemon and that's it.
>>728455752>>728455823>One minute apart.That's all, gentleman.
>>728456096Their ds line was famous for cracked, fucked up hinges they never did anything about. The stick drift on the switch is a monumental fuckup on the level of the RLOD, it's crazy how they got away with it. These kinds of fuck ups are rare and Nintendo had one of the worst examples. My 3ds had a broken nub too, my experience with their reliability has been poor for almost 20 years.
>>728456028NDSJust look how badly snoys are losing it in this thread. None of their arguments are working.
>>728456638>workingThe online people "working" in this thread are shills from Nintendo's Indian call centers
>>728455060>no Pinball>no Federation Force
>>728456687Then it would be easy to refute their arguments, right?I'm still waiting.
>>728456068>Durability is the mark of hardware made for childrenCope made by a moviegame enjoyer. First of all, I was talking about software, which has consistently been more expensive on Nintendo platforms, but you wanted to change the subject to hardware. Durability is the mark of a premium product, because nobody who is willing to spend money on something wants it to breakdown after 2 years, like was the case for the Gaystation 2.>The nes, SNES and n64 are from an era where premium and videogames were mutually exclusive conceptsGames were more expensive back then, and consoles too, if you adjust for inflation. Which is why consoles back then were more niche and for real gamers.>It wasn't till after the GameCube era that adults with jobs started to demand premium quality.The descent of videogames into a product for low IQ underclass teenagers began with the Gaystation, where cinematic slop was made availible for their uncreative minds to consume, as rhey now could afford a DVD player and a an interactive movie player all in one.
>>728456687oh ho! Snoy melty!
>>728456442>>728456256>Muh anecdotal experiences from clickbait youtubers trumps years of retailer statisticsSure thing, Joao.
>>728456814>nobody wanted to spend money on the best selling console of all time>or its 80 million successor>or the 100 million successor to that
>>728456687shills are responsible for Expedition 33 sweeping "indie" awards the other day. this ain't it, chief. Prime 4 is as good as the rest of the games.
SNOYS DESTROYED!Lmao
>>728456256I'm from the richest country in Europe. People from poor European countries tend to be Gaystation fans, same with 3rd worlders. I have also noticed that the biggest Gaystation fans and Nintendo haters tend to be lower class retards, while the upper class mainly play Nintendo.
>>728457087>Prime 4 is as good as the rest of the games.It's almost as good as Starfield. Maybe.
>>728457078It was basically a cheap 2 in 1 (or rather 1.5 in 1) offer, which is why it sold so well in the 3rd world and among the plebeian masses. Meanwhile the Gamecube was a dedicated gaming product for dedicated gamers. You have no clue.
>>728457167when I replay these games I am going to do all four games.
>>728456814>Seething at imaginary Sony fansSorry but I can't engage seriously with brain damaged adults who still care about console war shit. We play pc games.Nintendo software is a nostalgia brand, it is no more premium than an overpriced action figure, comic book or retro throwback car. The only 2 series that earn the moniker of premium are 3d mario and Zelda and even then they cost a third to a quarter the Dev cost of any other high profile AAA game
>>728457520>Defend Playstation with tooth and nails>"We're PC gamers"Sure...
>>728440013>>728440120>>728442203It's Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong. You don't understand how big DK is with normies. Metroid is not a popular series, sorry.
>>728457520>We play pc games.I know most toxic snoys moved on to Steam. You are still snoys at heart, because being a snoy is not about being a fan of sony, but rather being an underclass nintendo hater.
>>728453441A baby could beat NSMB Wii, but not World 9A baby could not beat DKCR but might be able to brute force a lot of it with Super Guide
>>728456884>ProjectingI had 2 DS lites with cracked hinges and had friends whose entire top screen fell off. I had to send my 3ds back to them twice and it still ended up breaking, I had to send my switch controllers back twice also. My switch pro controller also has a fucked up RB button. My experience of their hardware for almost 20 years has a 100% failure rate. The reliability era of Nintendo ended with the GameCube and Wii.
>>728454701To the average person Pokémon might as well be a Nintendo IP. Nintendo exclusive, present in all Smash games, often used as system sellers, etc
>>728457772My Wii eats Gamecube discs.
>>728457675Weird, since my gaming history began with pc dos/early windows gaming, moved to Nintendo then Xbox then back to pc. I never owned a PS2, only owned a PS1 for a week before it broke and bought a used PS3 like a decade after that console gen ended to play mgs4. Never owned any psp's and skipped PS4 and now ps5 for having no games yet your snoy detector is lighting up. Couldn't be a mental illness at all.
>>728457772>DS LiteLitterally the console made for the masses. Meanwhile I have NES, VB, GAMECUBE GBA Wii, Wii U, 3DS and Switch, and I've never had an issue except for stick drift with the switch. Again, statistisc trump your ANECDOTAL experiences.
>>728457140>I let the bull fuck my wife but it's fine the entire upper class does it oh hoh~
>>728458057You are just an individual. You deviating from the general pattern is meaningless
>>728458095Unironically since the upper class cheat way less, it's far better to be a cuck who at least gets something out of it rather than getting cheated on by your fat wife with a guy named Jayden in his trailer park then having to raise his kid.
>>728458302I would rather they not tell me if they cheat
>>728458153Yes, this tendie persecution pattern that you invented and only you are able to see, the one where you mislabel everybody and think you are constantly under assault from discord bogeymen called Eric.Sony fans moved to pc because every fucking gamer who wasn't a tendie moved to pc. Even Nintendo fans moved to pc, there's only a tiny selection of hyper autistic retards and children who stuck to the switch and only the switch. Especially after the Wii and wiiu years, I can't imagine how poor or autistic you had to have been to be Nintendo ride or die through that
>>728440013lel Metroid is barely at a higher level than Star Fox
>>728458363Becsuse you are bred to raise the cuckold kid of some upper class rich guy who fucks your wife or another peasant who is more handsome than you, yeah.
>>728457627you mean mario zelda pokemonask normies to name a single donkey kong gamethey might say the fucking arcade oneits just a mario character to them
>>728457627>You don't understand how big DK is with normiesDo the normies know that? DOHOHOHOHO
>>728458445>I can't imagine how poor or autistic you had to have been to be Nintendo ride or die through thatNintendo fans tend to have actual hobbies.
>>728451859The desert reveal was a huge red flag.
Are there parts in Prime 4 that are confusing or difficult to understand? Moments where you are stuck and don’t know how to proceed?
>>728458578lol no, Myles will tell you what to do if you don't immediately do it
>Snoys new cope: "we play PC!"LMAO!
>>728458302>it's far better to be a cuckLeast dishonest Nintendo fanboy
>>728440013>+10 point Nintendo System bonus>+10 point Nintendo First Party Franchise bonus>+5 point old franchise revival bonus>Actual weighted score: 54Is it the worst game ever made?
>>728458532Screeching about eric and acfag and macaco and deen and doug and glowies on 4chan 24/7 isn't a hobby
>>728459218being a console warrior and shitting out nintendo shitpost threads 24/7 on 4cuck isn't a hobby either
>>728458532Yeah, it seems gaming isn't one of them which is why their taste has stagnated at the level of a 10 year old child. Curious how they still remain in gaming spaces and enter every thread screaming about how X Nintendo game in Y genre is the greatest example of each despite playing nothing outside the walled garden>Fzero is the greatest racing game ever made>Smash is the greatest fighting game ever made>Metroid dread is the best metroidvania since super metroid>Donkey Kong is the best 2d platformer ever made>Xeniblade is the best JRPG ever madeIt never ends.
>>728442203>they will answer Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon in that orderFTFY. You might get Smash or Animal Crossing instead of Pokemon depending on who you ask. But that's besides the point. >Forget salesNo, sales are important when discussing popularity. More sales = More people buying the games.
>>728459501pretty sure the order goes#1 mario#2 pokemon#3 zelda#4 wii sports
>>728459651>#4 wii sportsWii Sports is almost 20 years old, anon. It's not relevant anymore.
>>728459651>#2 pokemon>#3 zeldaWhat if you combine all Mainline Pokémon game sales vs all Mainline Zelda sales?
>>728459773Recognition is a matter of deep penetrationWii sports got played by grandmasMetroid got played by nobody
>>728440013>but the reviewsyou're retarded
>>728441769Devs didn't care if the game was good, either.
>>728440013It's actually insane to me that this game could have been more well received if they just DIDN'T add shit>Minimize/reduce/remove the talking NPCs, no one would miss them>Remove the bike and empty ass overworldThere now it's an 8.5/10 game.
>>728460315game would last like 6 hours
>>728440013>Big Three>MetroidThe bait is fucking retarded and so is OPAnd samfagging the entrie thread>>728440251>>728440757Faggot cmon.
>>728460315No. There's more foundational issues. Just putting a muzzle on annoying NPCs only fixes a surface-level issues. Muzzling Fi didn't fix Skyward Sword HD either, it just made the game ever so slightly less tedious and insulting.
>>728453864How would you know, you haven't played it.
>>728458578There's a lot of puzzles that you have to figure out but they're easier than Zelda, just think about what abilities you have and use them
>>728460472instead of wasting time and budget on meaningless shit they would have had time to make more of the stuff people actually wanted. Prime always padded out its runtime with backtracking but it was interesting because powerups made it worthwhile, now since everything is spread out they broke that aspect.
>>728459464Nintendo leads the way, PeeC copy them. Thanks for admitting it.
>>728461791The fact that you unironically agree with all those shit eater meme opinions is more proof I'm correct.
>>728459464I have played other Metroidvanias and Dread clears them. I have played smash clones glazed by PC gamers and found them to be lacking. DKCTF indeed clears every wannabe Nintendo copycat out there (Rayman, Celeste, LBP, LevelHead, ...).
>>728462103>I have played other Metroidvanias and Dread clears themdread is completely mediocre in every way, i think every indie metroidvania i played in the last 15 years was better, axiom verge was somehow more successful at evoking the Metroid spirit despite being made by a man with negative artistic skills. >I have played smash clones You haven't played any fighting games and that's not what I said, you played a bunch of shitty furry/kids games that poorly cloned smash. smash itself is a sidenote in a larger genre.>DKCTF indeed clears every wannabe Nintendo copycat yet it doesn't clear dustforce which is a tiny indie game made by 4 kids
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Bloodstained is the greatest Castlevania-like in recent years and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. I'm also tired of pretending the archaic term "Metroidvania" holds any relevance given Metroid has been a Halo clone longer than anything else at this point and no longer deserves to represent a genre, although I would firmly argue it never did in the first place. Castlevania-like is a far more appropriate term.
>>728462520>smash itself is a sidenote in a larger genre.Most succesful fighting gane franchise of all time lol>>728462520Always tte PeeC gamers with some random game nobod played which they claim is better than Nintendo. Guess what, genius, without copying Nintendo, your indie shovelware couldn't even be MADE.
>>728462981>Castlevania-like is a far more appropriate term.Nope considering that Metroid is the actual inspiration for these games. The apropriate term is Metroid-like. The "metroidvania" term was made up by snoys in a desperate attempt to downplay Nintendo as the SOLE INNOVATORS of the genre.
>>728463007>everything that isnt nintendo is shovelwareWith every post you people are proving me to be more correct, you're shit eaters stuck in a bubble of arrested development and instead of acknowledging you're cringe Disney adults you larp as connoisseurs. I have no idea how you mcdonalds eating autists are still here and haven't found some Nintendo fan forum to rot inside.
>>728440013Metroid Prime 4/10 lole
>>728440013So we gonna talk about how forced the negativity is for the game?
>>728440013PFFFTAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
>>728461558Then what game did I download onto my Wii's USB drive?
>>728464480I fucking kneel
>>728440013Nah, people would say pokemon before Metroid, despite Pokemon being second party.
>>728440226If it was a new IP made by a random AA studio it wouldn't crack 65 on Metacritic and Ninpedophiles know it.
>>728458578I didn't know how to boost slide for like 15 minutes because I had tutorials off.There's a puzzle in the mines requiring spinning some pipes with bomb switches, I didn't realize there were switches on the opposite side and I was trying to figure out how to get it done with just two options for way too long.All skill issues but still, there's an iota of thought required for some things (few and far between)
>>728463364>HOW DARE YOU NOT CARE ABOUT MY DEROVATIVE INDIE SHOVELWARE DEVELOPED BY 3 PEOPLE, AAAAAAH NINTENTODDLER FANBOY IT'S 10 BETTER THAN MARIO I SWEAR!1!1!1!1!1!This is why we hate you.
>>728463184>Every FPS should be called Wolfenstain-like
>>728466373You cant hate me because you have no idea how to categorise what I even am, you just have to pretend I'm a sony die hard despite barely ever touching their systems.I don't go into every thread and talk about how my taste is immaculate, it comes up when tendies do this all day every day, preaching about how the only racing game they have every played is the best one, how the only fighting game they've ever played is the best one. Its so fucking obnoxious and myopic the entire site hates tendies.
>>728466589Yes.
>>7284400138.8 was a huge thing here for twilight princess you faggot
>>728466373>we hate you.
>A RETURN TO FORM!!Why the fuck is this phrase so popular among retards? Metroid Prime wasn't even in bad form before Prime and if you thought it was, Prime 4 isn't a return to form, it's a worsening of it.
>>728463007>Most succesful fighting gane franchise of all time lolnope, It is outsold by mortal kombat, if you needed any more proof that sales mean absolutely nothing.
>>728442203Nobody other than deluded Metroid fans or out-of-touch old farts whose last Nintendo console was the SNES would cite Metroid over Pokemon.
>>728467346Pretty sure this tard just assumes Metroid is popular based on the amount of Samus porn online, even though even most of those artists just know her as the blonde chick from Smash like everybody else.
>>728440120>muh salesSplatroom has 0 cultural impact.
